Ideal Protein Diet - 1st full week on alternatives




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az365
12-11-2012, 03:13 PM
Just completed my first full week on alternatives. lost 3 lbs saved $50

Breakfast - Either an EAS or Atkins shake
Snack - Atkins or Pure Protein Bar (an occasional additional shake after dinner)
Lunch - EAS or Atkins Shake and 2 cups veggies (sometimes additional lean meat).
Dinner 2 cups veggies and 8oz meat (beef, lamb or chicken)

On Saturday I went to the movies and had an additional item - IP chocolate soy puffs.


scorbett1103
12-11-2012, 03:54 PM
Nice! The only thing I would caution you about is using Atkins products - they tend to be too high in fat to compare with IP products. Atkins doesn't restrict fat, while IP does. Make sure you are using products with less than 30% total calories from fat.

Billster
12-11-2012, 05:23 PM
Good for you! I'm in the process of switching over to alternatives and am pretty scarred but this made me feel so much better about my choice to save some $$$ . I have heard not to use the Atkins produces due to high fat count. Stick to ESA shakes or Pure Protein shakes (found at walmart).


maezy1
12-11-2012, 05:47 PM
Im switching over this week and next or as soon as my products get here!!!! Ive been using pure protein bars this week and the scale is going up. I know it cant be the bars huh? they are only 20 - 40 calories above the IP that i was eating and I've used a lower cal soup to make up for this. Do the pure proteins work for others?

Billster
12-11-2012, 06:02 PM
Im switching over this week and next or as soon as my products get here!!!! Ive been using pure protein bars this week and the scale is going up. I know it cant be the bars huh? they are only 20 - 40 calories above the IP that i was eating and I've used a lower cal soup to make up for this. Do the pure proteins work for others?

My question would be around the soup! IP as far as I can tell IP is very low cal, HOWEVER the main focus is fat/ carbs/ sugars. So my question would be what does the soup have in it? Also if you are cutting too may cal's out your body could be in starvation which would also cause the scale to go up. From what I can tell pure protein bars and shakes have worked wonders for people who want the IP diet but don't want to spend the $$. Also ESA Shakes are good too. How many bars are you eating?

az365
12-11-2012, 06:18 PM
Im switching over this week and next or as soon as my products get here!!!! Ive been using pure protein bars this week and the scale is going up. I know it cant be the bars huh? they are only 20 - 40 calories above the IP that i was eating and I've used a lower cal soup to make up for this. Do the pure proteins work for others?

Don't worry too much about daily weight fluctuations. I can fluctuate 3-4 lbs a day, usually at my lowest in the mornings.

maezy1
12-11-2012, 06:23 PM
Billster - Im only eating one bar a day. Treating it like a restricted food.
This scale fluctuation is very unusual for me but Im taking it in stride, or trying to. Im getting ready for major surgery next week so maybe the anxiety is getting to me

Fishette
12-11-2012, 06:33 PM
I am on alternatives and I've found that it works best for me to stay under 30 grams net carbs and under 40 grams fat every day. I use MyFitnessPal.com to make sure I don't bust the limits.

Edited to clarify that I subtract total fiber grams from total carb grams to get total net carbs. That is the value I try to keep under 30.

maezy1
12-11-2012, 07:22 PM
thx Fishette! and that is one cute baby in your picture!

Beanie Mommy
12-11-2012, 10:54 PM
I am on alternatives and I've found that it works best for me to stay under 30 grams net carbs and under 40 grams fat every day. I use MyFitnessPal.com to make sure I don't bust the limits.

I just restarted IP with alternatives (ordered some proti diet foods that seem to be very similar to IP). I also use the MyFitnessPal to track carbs and calories. I aim for about 50 or less net carbs and between 800 and 1000 cal. I tracked a bunch of "real" IP days, and that seems to work out about right. Protein is about 100-130g.

Fishette
12-11-2012, 11:20 PM
I just restarted IP with alternatives (ordered some proti diet foods that seem to be very similar to IP). I also use the MyFitnessPal to track carbs and calories. I aim for about 50 or less net carbs and between 800 and 1000 cal. I tracked a bunch of "real" IP days, and that seems to work out about right. Protein is about 100-130g.

There is a bunch of us from this forum on MFP. Friend me - my name there is 3fcFishette

thx Fishette! and that is one cute baby in your picture!

Oh, don't get me started on that baby pic! That is Lily, my premie grand daughter, right after her heart repair surgery. She is doing fantastic and seems to be doing quite well catching up with her birth age. She was 9 weeks early but she has caught up about half of that so far, so today she acts like a 9 month old although she is 10. At this pic she wasn't even on the growth charts, or maybe at like 3% mark. Today she is at the 40% mark right in the middle of the chart. I'm so happy for her!

JODIO
12-12-2012, 12:14 AM
This might be a dumb question, but.. if you are using alternatives, you are doing it on your own, right? You don't use the IP coach?
I've only been on it for a month, so I'm too chicken to do it without the help! But, does anyone feel that being coach-less makes it harder?

JODIO
12-12-2012, 12:17 AM
... also, do you just tell your soon-to-be ex-coach, Sayonara, I'm going on my own! ? lol

I know, these are lame questions! But I'm curious!

patns
12-12-2012, 01:58 AM
... also, do you just tell your soon-to-be ex-coach, Sayonara, I'm going on my own! ? lol

I know, these are lame questions! But I'm curious!

These questions are asked all the time. Yes if you are not using IP products most people don't go to the coach.

When I left the clinic I just told the coach I just didn't have time to drive the distance there when my work schedule changed which was true.

Many people just also say the truth that they can't afford it.

Others just cancel the appointment.

az365
12-12-2012, 04:06 AM
This might be a dumb question, but.. if you are using alternatives, you are doing it on your own, right? You don't use the IP coach?
I've only been on it for a month, so I'm too chicken to do it without the help! But, does anyone feel that being coach-less makes it harder?

Not a dumb question at all. Yes, doing on my own. It is harder, but if you use this site, MyFitnessPal it helps to keep you accountable. I have the extra benefit of being on the diet with my wife..so we started doing our own weigh-is, each week (same date/time). MyFitnessPal is like an online ( or mobile app) version of the food journal. If you are honest and see what you are eating, you're less likely to cheat.

sahmmommy2
12-12-2012, 09:12 AM
I started October 1st and have used almost exclusively alternatives with great results. Never been to a clinic. I have tried a couple of the IP products once I found out from the wonderful people HERE that they could be ordered online.

I'm over half way to my goal, which is AWESOME!

My best piece of advice is to study, study, study the nutritional info and ingredients list in all of the alternatives you purchase. It also helps to download (from here) the IP sheet with it's guidelines. There is also a wealth of information in the alternatives thread, it just takes some time to read through it all.

scorbett1103
12-12-2012, 09:27 AM
This might be a dumb question, but.. if you are using alternatives, you are doing it on your own, right? You don't use the IP coach?
I've only been on it for a month, so I'm too chicken to do it without the help! But, does anyone feel that being coach-less makes it harder?

That's correct - I was going through an IP center for the first 10 weeks of my weight loss, I had bought a lot of IP food in the beginning (I like variety!) but cost and usefulness of my coach became an issue. When I found this forum I realized that I knew more about the program than HER - more often than not I'd be teaching her something, not the other way around. That's not what I spent good money for.

I started to buy and try alternative products, my losses didn't change so I decided to go exclusively alternative. I told her I couldn't afford IP anymore and needed to use the less expensive products. She understood. I went out and bought myself a scale and tape measure and never looked back! It's a little more challenging to be on your own doing it, but the weight loss is motivating enough to keep me on track! I still weigh in once a week, and I track everything on Myfitnesspal.com (food and measurements). I get my questions answered on this forum, and feel like I have a HUGE group of coaches instead of just one that doesn't even really know the program well.

Going "rogue" isn't for everyone, but I'm glad I did!

Billster
12-12-2012, 04:12 PM
Billster - Im only eating one bar a day. Treating it like a restricted food.
This scale fluctuation is very unusual for me but Im taking it in stride, or trying to. Im getting ready for major surgery next week so maybe the anxiety is getting to me

Stress sure can do that! When my husband got laid off 2 weeks ago my scale went up 10 lbs not from eating or anything like that except stress! As soo as things got worked out within 2 days it was back down to normal!

Billster
12-12-2012, 04:23 PM
I started October 1st and have used almost exclusively alternatives with great results. Never been to a clinic. I have tried a couple of the IP products once I found out from the wonderful people HERE that they could be ordered online.

I'm over half way to my goal, which is AWESOME!

My best piece of advice is to study, study, study the nutritional info and ingredients list in all of the alternatives you purchase. It also helps to download (from here) the IP sheet with it's guidelines. There is also a wealth of information in the alternatives thread, it just takes some time to read through it all.

I just saw your post! You lost 36 lbs on your own! That's SO AMAZING! I was super worried about leaving my clinic to go solo, however once I saw this I will be fine!

maezy1
12-12-2012, 05:48 PM
FISHETTE- Love the newest pic of Lily! She is so cute!!!!! and looks so happy too!!!

Halfagain
12-12-2012, 07:16 PM
This might be a dumb question, but.. if you are using alternatives, you are doing it on your own, right? You don't use the IP coach?
I've only been on it for a month, so I'm too chicken to do it without the help! But, does anyone feel that being coach-less makes it harder?

Okay my response if sort of kidding around - somewhat how I feel about this. Please I'm not picking on coaches or people's choices for themselves.
My response probably doesn't count, since I've never had a coach on IP - other than this list! and you all are terrific! Actually I had coaches on Jenny Craig and on Nutrisystems plans and well if you count WW weigh in's and meetings that too, and TOPs. So I understand coaching, and nothing against the good coaches but coaching in general I haven't enjoyed when it comes to weight loss. I'm so thankful not to have to schedule an hour or so out of my week, get in the car, drive to somewhere to be weighed and measured, and try and be accountable to someone I am paying to hold me accountable. Some people may stick to plan because a coach is watching their journal or will weigh them, and if that works, great! Some people may be more accountable if they pay more to loose the weight (my mother is like that.. she wanted her then $7 a week worth of weight loss from WW!) I stick to plan because I am watching me, (maybe I'm too cheap and lazy to get my rear to a coach? - I don't think so, I'm doing okay and in the long run - it is about what I want for me).

So yes getting your favorites figured out, knowing what's okay and what's restricted, etc is a little learning curve (I ordered New life styles diet stuff at first, which is a bit low in protein - long story there). I've figured out that I don't really want/desire a huge variety in my options for packets/drinks. EAS shakes are good, not too expensive IMO, Costco Premier Nutrition shakes are good too.. I have found I'm not as fond of the powders you have to shake up - so I don't buy them anymore. I have some Proti-Diet savory items I use when I'm in a spicy mood, some Proti-thin restrict eds. That seems to make me happy along with veggie and meat variety along the way. I order my potassium from the protein store. I take cal-mag, daily vitamins. I DO get checkups from my doctor, blood tests, etc as well every three months. So I guess I'm not cheap - paying for those. I just feel I'm just getting more bang for my buck and holding myself accountable for this process.

AZ247
12-12-2012, 07:23 PM
I started October 1st and have used almost exclusively alternatives with great results. Never been to a clinic. I have tried a couple of the IP products once I found out from the wonderful people HERE that they could be ordered online.

I'm over half way to my goal, which is AWESOME!

My best piece of advice is to study, study, study the nutritional info and ingredients list in all of the alternatives you purchase. It also helps to download (from here) the IP sheet with it's guidelines. There is also a wealth of information in the alternatives thread, it just takes some time to read through it all.

36lbs in a little over two months is amazing!! What does your meal plan look like on a typical day?

WebRover
12-12-2012, 08:23 PM
... I'm so thankful not to have to schedule an hour or so out of my week, get in the car, drive to somewhere to be weighed and measured, and try and be accountable to someone I am paying to hold me accountable. Some people may stick to plan because a coach is watching their journal or will weigh them, and if that works, great! Some people may be more accountable if they pay more to loose the weight (my mother is like that.. she wanted her then $7 a week worth of weight loss from WW!) I stick to plan because I am watching me, (maybe I'm too cheap and lazy to get my rear to a coach? - I don't think so, I'm doing okay and in the long run - it is about what I want for me).

So yes getting your favorites figured out, knowing what's okay and what's restricted, etc is a little learning curve ... I've figured out that I don't really want/desire a huge variety in my options for packets/drinks. EAS shakes are good, not too expensive IMO, ... That seems to make me happy along with veggie and meat variety along the way. I order my potassium from the protein store. I take cal-mag, daily vitamins. I DO get checkups from my doctor, blood tests, etc as well every three months. So I guess I'm not cheap - paying for those. I just feel I'm just getting more bang for my buck and holding myself accountable for this process.

I so agree with all of this. Add in some bars in place of the proti-diet products and this is where I am. Don't have to go anywhere. I'm responsible to myself. I'm happy not having a lot of choices/decisions. I do divide my protein between lunch and dinner so it feels to be very normal eating with healthy choices. I keep track of my weight and waist measurement. I check in here daily and read. I rarely post. I started on my own with information I learned here and from people at work on the plan. I never had a coach and don't miss it at all.

az365
12-13-2012, 03:59 AM
I started October 1st and have used almost exclusively alternatives with great results. Never been to a clinic. I have tried a couple of the IP products once I found out from the wonderful people HERE that they could be ordered online.

I'm over half way to my goal, which is AWESOME!

My best piece of advice is to study, study, study the nutritional info and ingredients list in all of the alternatives you purchase. It also helps to download (from here) the IP sheet with it's guidelines. There is also a wealth of information in the alternatives thread, it just takes some time to read through it all.

^ The new Poster Child for Alternative IP!