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Susiego
12-01-2012, 02:12 PM
This is my fifth day of having hives. I have them on both arms and its starting on my chest. I've never had this before but I think it may be food related. I'm going to eliminate the protein drinks and see if that makes a difference. Has anyone experienced this before? Not sure what to do.


bargoo
12-01-2012, 02:16 PM
I do get hives, it helps when you first notice them starting take 2 benadryl immediately, OTC and cheap. My doctor gave me this info. I have benadryl on hand at all times

libertybelle
12-01-2012, 02:21 PM
You might want to, each time there is a reaction, write down the ingredients in what was eaten. It usually doesn't take long to narrow it down to the trigger. If you look at the drink ingredients and see something you don't normally consume, you can probably narrow it down very quickly.
Keep your benadryl handy!
Good luck! Keep us posted.


greeniris
12-01-2012, 02:28 PM
FYI: A severe allergic reaction can actually cause your throat to close up to the point you can't breathe. If you ever notice difficulty breathing when you have hives, get to the ER immediately! Like yaelbelle says, keep your benadryl handy.

caryesings
12-01-2012, 05:56 PM
Not an IP person, but your subject line caught my eye.

Yes, I had a condition called CIU which is basically constant hives for no known reason. Had them for 8 months and tested negative for everything. Could stop them with a course of prednisone, but as soon as tapered off the pred, they were back. Then 8 months into this horror the same course of pred I'd go on just to get some relief knocked them down and stayed down.

Doctors could not find why they started or why they stopped, but interestingly enough the horror of that 8 months really helped motivate me later to adopt a healthier lifestyle. The road I was going down would have lead to chronic health issues such as high BP, cholesterol, or even diabetes and I was determined NOT to have to live with a condition I could prevent.

dawnwhite58
12-01-2012, 07:05 PM
Do you think this could be IP related? I have had a red and itchy neck the last couple of weeks. It is most noticable after a shower. This has never happened before.

AZ247
12-01-2012, 09:20 PM
I definitely think its something with the diet that causes it. I had hives on my hands the first week and it slowly went away but now I'm noticing hives on the back of my neck as well. I also have itchy skin all over. Weird.

JenRem
12-02-2012, 01:38 AM
FYI: A severe allergic reaction can actually cause your throat to close up to the point you can't breathe. If you ever notice difficulty breathing when you have hives, get to the ER immediately! Like yaelbelle says, keep your benadryl handy.


If you are getting hives/rash. be careful and monitor it closely trying to find the cause as soon as you can.

The below is specifically regarding a hive/rash reaction where you begin to have difficulty breathing and feel your throat is tightening/swelling shut. greeniris is 100% correct. This is called an anaphylactic recaction and can be extremely life threatening/fatal. It will progress quickly and may seem to happen out of the blue. For example, a person with a bee sting, latex or peanut butter allergy may be ok on their ninth hive/rash reaction, but on their tenth reaction they could go into anaphylactic shock - needing immediate medical attention. If this happens to you - call 911 - take this very seriously and don't hesitate (don't wait for the benadryl to start working?. Also, don't drive yourself to the ER. Jen

libertybelle
12-02-2012, 07:52 AM
Oh! JenRem is absolutely right. It reminded me of something our allergist told me. In case we do not have our Epi-Pens handy, but do have Benadryl handy, (say visiting someone and the Epi is in the car, I guess. ) He told me it is very difficult to take "too much" Benadryl (please DO NOT test this out unless necessary)and to give my son 4 times the adult dose if he has a reaction. One of my son's has a very severe shellfish allergy and has to take 2 Epi's if exposed. I keep them with me. But I want to share that in case anyone begins to feel mouth, throat symptoms. We keep the liquid on hand. If you havecapsules, bite them. Worst case, if you weren't allergic,you might sleep well.

I am not a doctor! Just sharing one doctor's directions.

Be well and take care!

bargoo
12-02-2012, 08:10 AM
I had a severe allergic reaction where my tongue swelled 911 was called.EMTs gave me Benadryl at my house, gave me Benadryl in the ambulance on the way to the hospital and more Benadryl.when I got to the hospital.I get that same severe reaction once in awhile but now I recognize when it is starting and two Benadryl stop it. I have been tested by an specialist in allergies and the cause has not been found, yet. Best advice from Doctors take Benadryl right away. I do have an Epi Pen but I rely on Benadryl. It is possible to be allergic to thousnands of things and is hard to find the cause.If you ever have a severe reaction call 911.

1artpen
12-02-2012, 08:20 AM
Yes I got them about after two weeks, went to Dr. and had to stop so much vinegar to much acid at once. Also she gave me Zyrtec and Prevacid take togather and it will stop the itching and swelling worked great and never had them again. :D

dawnwhite58
12-02-2012, 08:58 AM
Thank you ladies. I realize that I need to take this a little more seriously just in case.

libertybelle
12-02-2012, 09:45 AM
Last allergy thought: The way we discovered my son was allergic to shellfish was that it touched his skin. -And we still ended up with an emergency. So, you can always put a dab of something on your arm and if you don't respond with some type irritation, at least possibly assume the allergy is not severe. Our allergist said this was actually an old fashioned way of checking. I don't. But... It could maybe help narrow down if one specific food is bothering you.

Susiego
12-02-2012, 10:10 AM
Well I don't think it is the protein drink because I haven't had one for 2 days. The hives are looking better but the itch is worse. I've eliminated everything I can think of. If it doesn't get better today I'm going to go to the doctor tomorrow. Thanks for the tips on Benadryl. I will have to try the Zyrtec and Prevacid today.

New Englander
12-02-2012, 10:46 AM
I've had hives three times head to toe..and have had to take steroids to get rid of them...

I also got them when I began IP. I called my coach and we determined what was causing them and I went in and traded all my food for two that worked fine for me (the chocolate drink and double chocolate bar).

From that point on I was fine.

If you don't have a coach look at your protein foods (shakes etc) to see what they have in common that could be causing your hives. Check for the protein they are made up (soy, whey etc.).

rofl306
12-02-2012, 11:36 AM
I have had hives. Took months to narrow it down to a dye in an anti-inflamitory I was prescribed for a hip injury. I didn't take the medicine regularly just as needed but the hives would show up in the morning, over 8 hours after taking the medicine.

My son has had hives that we never determined the cause. The hives would only stay away as long as antihistamines were in his system then they were back. Lasted for four days then gone forever. Our luck was that his last meal before was from McD so he (being 4) blamed that and we never had to eat their again!! :)

diblssd
04-04-2013, 01:46 AM
on IP for 1 year with a 60 plus weight loss. now have developed hives head to toe getting worse. New Englander what chocolate drink did you use? The ready made or the boxed one? What ingredients are different in these?

JenRem
04-04-2013, 02:39 AM
on IP for 1 year with a 60 plus weight loss. now have developed hives head to toe getting worse. New Englander what chocolate drink did you use? The ready made or the boxed one? What ingredients are different in these?

Has ANYTHING changed recently? Food, hygiene products, medicines, ??? It may not be related to IP?

diblssd
04-04-2013, 02:48 AM
Not a thing. I tried a new salad at Costco but have eliminated it for weeks now. If anything the hives are worse. I love this diet. Still on phase 1. The Doctor wants me off of all supplements now. Not vitamins or Calcium etc. Where does that leave me with IP? Cannot do it without them. Doctor is thinking my body is overreacting as an allergy to either the soy or Sucralose in all this food.

putenpie
04-04-2013, 03:08 AM
While on IP I haven't had hives but I did have hives in the past when I ate shellfish, saw an allergist who recommended allergen shots to help with the tolerance to shellfish. Its been years since my last breakout, I do keep my epipen with me always, but as suggested by others benadryl and cortizone cream have helped me in the past.
Now my boyfriend has tried my mango ready made twice and on each occasion his speech has slurred to a point I thought he was having a stroke I was so scared but within 20 minutes he regained his speech back. Seems like different people react differently to IP products.

newday2013
04-04-2013, 08:10 AM
Many people on here are allergic to soy. And sucralose is a common allergy. Go to the alternative boards and see what they do. Good luck!!

IPRound2
04-04-2013, 09:10 AM
When I was on IP the first time a few years ago - i broke out in hives for about 4 days in the second week. I asked my coach and she had no idea what would have caused them and told me it wasn't the IP food. She suggested it was just stress from the diet as your body is adjusting and losing toxins as the fat is being used as energy. I fortunately did not have them as long as others i'm reading about.

nitrus29
04-04-2013, 11:47 AM
YES !!! OMG Hives are the worst !! I woke up one morning with these big red spots all over my chest and back and was like WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF !!! :(:(

I still don't know what caused them. I went for all sorts of allergy tests.. the doc even punctured me with steroids to make them stop !!! It was the worst thing ever !!!

I would say it could be something you are eating coupled with a change in your environment !! A new shampoo / deo / soap perhaps ? It could be dust too !! You'd be surprised what all you could be allergic to!! I gave up eating a LOT of foods to try and figure out what was causing it !! Some days, it was eggplant that caused it and some days it was red wine!!! :(:(

Just be strong and keep an eye out on what you put in your mouth !!!

Diana3271
04-04-2013, 12:15 PM
Not an IP person, but your subject line caught my eye.

Yes, I had a condition called CIU which is basically constant hives for no known reason. Had them for 8 months and tested negative for everything. Could stop them with a course of prednisone, but as soon as tapered off the pred, they were back. Then 8 months into this horror the same course of pred I'd go on just to get some relief knocked them down and stayed down.

Doctors could not find why they started or why they stopped, but interestingly enough the horror of that 8 months really helped motivate me later to adopt a healthier lifestyle. The road I was going down would have lead to chronic health issues such as high BP, cholesterol, or even diabetes and I was determined NOT to have to live with a condition I could prevent.

Is this the same thing as angioedema? A few years back I started having issues with lip swelling, body swelling, lips breaking out and hives. On my own, I eliminated every food and every food group but didn't get any relief. I decided to go for allergy testing. Everything was negative. Last year I went to another Allergist to get tested for more foods. Again everything negative. The Dr. did additional testing and it turned up that I have angioedema. I tested positive for the ige antibody. This originally came about after my Dad passed away. Last year it got even worse when my Mom was diagnosed with cancer and passed away. The only thing that helps is a daily antihistamine. When it flares up I have a variety of symptoms from hives, swelling, and even breathing issues. I have read that angioedema is an auto immune disorder that can go hand in hand with hypothyroidism. I also have hypothyroidism. I can flare up out of the blue, for no apparent reason. I have noticed more issues around times of stress and hormonal issues (TTOM).

LexiChanel1
04-04-2013, 12:36 PM
I had them on my fingers and I am really dry all over.

charliebear99
04-04-2013, 01:53 PM
This is my fifth day of having hives. I have them on both arms and its starting on my chest. I've never had this before but I think it may be food related. I'm going to eliminate the protein drinks and see if that makes a difference. Has anyone experienced this before? Not sure what to do.

Google "allergy to sucralose". This is the same sweetner as brand name Splenda and IP products have quite a bit of it in all the sweetened items. Apparently this is becoming a more common allergy. You might try a brand of protein powder sweetened with stevia or plain if you can tolerate the bland flavor.

Benadryl is a great antihistamine but watch taking it with other antihistamines such as Zyrtec. I would only take one or the other as prescribed each day. Two antihistamines at the same time can make some people's heart race. I would also take Pepcid (generic name Famotadine) with your Benadryl. You can also buy this over the counter now. Histamine released when you have an allergic reaction cause the excess release of stomach acid and Benadryl will not block this. Pepcid will.

When you go to the ED for a severe allergic reaction they will usually give pepcid/benadryl/prednisone and only use an Epipen shot if they see signs that a patient's airway is swelling closed.

See your family MD if this persists.
Hope this helps. :^:

charliebear99
04-04-2013, 02:06 PM
Is this the same thing as angioedema? A few years back I started having issues with lip swelling, body swelling, lips breaking out and hives. On my own, I eliminated every food and every food group but didn't get any relief. I decided to go for allergy testing. Everything was negative. Last year I went to another Allergist to get tested for more foods. Again everything negative. The Dr. did additional testing and it turned up that I have angioedema. I tested positive for the ige antibody. This originally came about after my Dad passed away. Last year it got even worse when my Mom was diagnosed with cancer and passed away. The only thing that helps is a daily antihistamine. When it flares up I have a variety of symptoms from hives, swelling, and even breathing issues. I have read that angioedema is an auto immune disorder that can go hand in hand with hypothyroidism. I also have hypothyroidism. I can flare up out of the blue, for no apparent reason. I have noticed more issues around times of stress and hormonal issues (TTOM).

I would suggest the Dr Furhman's Eat to Live plan/books. Or The Spectrum, by Dr Dean Ornish. Ornish's plan is actually covered by Medicare now because their have been enough studies showing that it reverses cardiac disease. They both espouse organic living. Diets free of preservatives. They both prefer you eat vegetarian diets but allow for low fat meat and dairy if you don't have heart disease. Many people with autoimmune disorders apparent have reported resolution of symptoms with these diets. (Especially Dr Furhman.) I have had no more ruptures cysts with my PCOS after switching to these ways of eating and I am frequently complimented on my skin and hair.

I just started doing IP with organic plain protein products and lots of veggies so I can be better with my portion sizes and stop snacking at night. I hope I have as much success on my home plan as you have with traditional IP. And I hope when I get a tracker going here it eventually looks like yours!

Congrats on your weight loss
I hope the info in these books might help with your angioedema.

:):carrot:
Teresa

Got2benow
04-05-2013, 10:24 PM
Do you think this could be IP related? I have had a red and itchy neck the last couple of weeks. It is most noticable after a shower. This has never happened before.

I am only on day 4, but I have them too! Neck and chest and just started in the inside creases of my elbow. Yep, worse after a shower. My first time dealing with anything like this also. Just plain weird.

I hope you are better soon, that goes for everyone! This is for the birds...

Diana3271
04-05-2013, 10:28 PM
I would suggest the Dr Furhman's Eat to Live plan/books. Or The Spectrum, by Dr Dean Ornish. Ornish's plan is actually covered by Medicare now because their have been enough studies showing that it reverses cardiac disease. They both espouse organic living. Diets free of preservatives. They both prefer you eat vegetarian diets but allow for low fat meat and dairy if you don't have heart disease. Many people with autoimmune disorders apparent have reported resolution of symptoms with these diets. (Especially Dr Furhman.) I have had no more ruptures cysts with my PCOS after switching to these ways of eating and I am frequently complimented on my skin and hair.

I just started doing IP with organic plain protein products and lots of veggies so I can be better with my portion sizes and stop snacking at night. I hope I have as much success on my home plan as you have with traditional IP. And I hope when I get a tracker going here it eventually looks like yours!

Congrats on your weight loss
I hope the info in these books might help with your angioedema.

:):carrot:
Teresa


Thank you for the info. Good luck with your weight loss goals.

canic
04-07-2013, 02:48 AM
I posted this on the other hives thread:

I got hives in week 3. Started out as a few spots that looked like bug bites and got worse throughout the day. I didn't realize they were hives as never had them before. My left ankle and foot also swelled up to point I couldn't wear my shoe. It was now 10pm, Urgent Care was closed so I ended up at ER - probably the most expensive benadryl I've ever had

It happened again a few days later. I narrowed it down to either extra supplement my Chiropractor gave me that has Alpha-Lipoic Acid or to an artificial sweetener in some of the products, acesulfame potassium. I've never been allergic to anything. I stopped taking the supplement and any products with that sweetener and I've been fine.

My Dr. has had patients allergic to Alpha-Lipoic Acid before and turns out it messes with thyroid medication, which I am on. So a real no-no for me to take. So I just now taking the regular ideal protein supplements.

I'm going to try one of the products with the acesulfame potassium again in next week or so and see if it comes back.

My Dr. said you can build up a reaction over time to something, so that may be why it took a couple of weeks for something to happen. Or, it may have been some completely unrelated to the IP diet.

ETA. My DH didn't have any reaction to the diet when he was on it.

jrl521
04-07-2013, 09:46 AM
Could it be the soy? After drinking a shake I developed terrible hives, itchiness, and a swollen throat. I was rushed to the ER where I was treated with Prednisone and Pepcid which started working 15 minutes later. I then had an allergy test which tested positive for soy. I now have to use soy free protein shake/products.

lisa32989
04-07-2013, 10:02 AM
Each person could have a different trigger for the hives but the three I've seen discussed the most are soy, Sucralose, and ace-k (Acesulfame potassium).

I went soy-free/gluten-free due to thyroid. I'm cutting back on sweeteners so the only ones I'll be using will be in the packets (no additions). I have also purchased some plain powders and some stevia-sweetened protein powders. There ARE options if you look for them but it is about learning and doing some research.

Salus
04-07-2013, 06:14 PM
Thanks so much for this thread. I am new to the Program and was not aware of the soy or the incredible amount of splenda. I have done an internet search and found a few articles but really appreciated this forum.

Are there soy-free, splenda-free IP products? One chart I referred to said Yes and another said No. I don't see my coach until Wednesday so thought I would come to the experts here for insight. I feel itchy, irritable and my throat burns after the products. No hives, yet.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

lisa32989
04-07-2013, 06:33 PM
Thanks so much for this thread. I am new to the Program and was not aware of the soy or the incredible amount of splenda. I have done an internet search and found a few articles but really appreciated this forum.

Are there soy-free, splenda-free IP products? One chart I referred to said Yes and another said No. I don't see my coach until Wednesday so thought I would come to the experts here for insight. I feel itchy, irritable and my throat burns after the products. No hives, yet.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
There are soy- free products. There are also Sucralose-free
I haven't cross-referenced the two to fond that particular short list.

Salus
04-07-2013, 08:45 PM
Thanks Lisa....are you able to share with me which IP products are 1) soy free and 2) sucralose free? I will look to buy them on my visit Wednesday.

Thanks so much!

Salus

lisa32989
04-07-2013, 11:19 PM
Thanks Lisa....are you able to share with me which IP products are 1) soy free and 2) sucralose free? I will look to buy them on my visit Wednesday.

Thanks so much!

Salus
I've attached the soy/gluten-free list I created.
I haven't cross-referenced for sweeteners as that is not what I have restricted.
You can check ingredients at plainprotein.com

However, you might want to just cut out one item at at a time to try to narrow-down which thing is causing you the problems.