Have you ever been in a stall/regain cycle that you just can't seem to get out of, like, FOREVER??? I have so been there this year. It's been a diet nightmare. Two years ago I was down to 175 (from 278), messed around with a ten pound regain for 5 months, then over the course of the next 8 months gained 30 more. And I was TRYING, but apparently not hard enough...
I got down to 199 again this past February but ever since then have struggled and regained. For seven months I have danced around the 215-pound mark. I am so sick of it!! I have calorie counted, carb counted, joined gyms, gone to physical therapy for the pain that keeps me from being as active as I'd like.
Well I cannot live like this anymore. I feel like this week I reached some kind of breaking point. I am in SO much physical pain on a daily... hourly... basis from the plantar fasciitis in my feet which no doubt is aggravated by the extra weight. And I have been sick for 2 weeks with a sinus infection on top of that. I have GOT to get my health back, take control, beat this thing into submission.
Anyway, I have a plan, I have the motivation and focus. I am going to weigh tomorrow, do a two day detox and then go back on Medifast at least long enough to get back below 200 and get my head on straight and formulate a long term plan.
Misti in Seattle
11-17-2012, 04:58 PM
Hope you are able to get back on track soon. You can do it!
11-18-2012, 12:14 AM
So happy to see you here, even though I'm really sorry that you are suffering! Regaining does completely and totally suck!!!! I am FINALLY back on track, but it took me several attempts before I really meant it.
For me, I had to completely detox from the stress that made me regain in the first place, then I had to relax a whole lot. Then, I had to wrap my head around the whole thing... and then finally it clicked and I was ready to refocus.
It really didn't matter how hard I tried. When I wasn't ready, I wasn't ready.
Now, I'm sailing along again.
And you will be sailing soon too. I know it's awful to regain, but 215 sound awesome from where I sit at 262.
Glad you're back!
11-18-2012, 05:09 AM
Hi Lyn... I am so sorry to hear of your struggle. I truly understand. It's so frustrating....the constant and forever battle we have with our weight.
Plantar fascitis is very painful. I hope you can see a podiatrist or some doctor that can help. Very often orthotics can make a difference. Water exercises are good too because they are not weightbaring. Sometimes is hard to find that chunk of time to get to the pool.
Hang in there. If you have really been on your plan and still can't lose you might want to get your thyroid checked. Just a thought.
Do the best you can. You CAN do this. Glad you posted.
11-18-2012, 07:36 PM
Thanks ladies! Ubergirl good to see you again. Hi Beverlyjoy. Boy, we have been at this awhile haven't we?? 2007 for you two and myself, and 2003 for Misti! Longgg time...
I did well today even though I woke up feeling awful and am delaying the detox until I feel better. I started back on Medifast today...
black coffee x2
Medifast hot cocoa
Medifast chocolate shake
Medifast choc chip pancake with sugar free syrup
cup of homemade chicken stock
Medifast peanut butter soft serve shake
dinner is roast beef (which is in the oven and smells terrific... 5 ounces for me) and 1.5 cups of green beans. Dessert will probably be a Medifast brownie.
The first day is the hardest so I am posting and trying to stay accountable!
eta: oh man, I need to change my ticker. I hate to do it, but...
11-18-2012, 08:02 PM
Lyn, looks like you did change the ticker. It's not so bad once you get used to it!!!
Glad to have you back and the roast beef sounds yummy.
11-18-2012, 08:18 PM
Yep I changed it. I weighed 222 this morning. I was 219 on Nov 1. See, going the wrong direction. Has to stop! What kind of plan are you doing, calorie counting?
11-18-2012, 08:23 PM
My favourite tip from my physiotherapist for plantars fascitis is to freeze water bottles and then put them in a sock and roll your feet on them. I haven't had trouble for a couple years. Stretching and then icing made all the difference in the world.
11-18-2012, 08:48 PM
I did the frozen water bottle for about a month... it helped but didn't heal. I've actually been dealing with it for about 7 months, have seen a podiatrist, been on steroids and NSAIDS, had my feet measured and pressure points taken and fitted with orthotics and new shoes, wear night splints, do all the stretches, and go to physical therapy twice a week for ultrasound, massage, stretching and the Graston method of tissue manipulation... oh and e-stim as well. The amount of pain I am still in is ridiculous! I am pretty desperate for it to stop.
11-19-2012, 08:50 AM
Lyn, I'm so sorry you are in so much pain. That sounds absolutely AWFUL! I've never suffered from that problem, but foot pain in general is so hard because it affects every single step.
What kind of plan are you doing, calorie counting?
Yes, I'm counting calories-- pretty much back to my old plan, except that before starting, I read The Skinny Rules. I was intrigued that so much of what he recommended was exactly what I did to lose the weight the first time around, but there were a few changes, so I decided to adopt those to see if it would shake things up a bit.
1. Shocker: I gave up adding salt and artificial sweeteners (on the grounds that these keep us addicted to hyper-flavored foods.) I like 3 packs of Splenda in my ice tea, and I always add table salt, so that was a bit of a shocker, but I think the effect is good so far. I used his "step-down" rule which is that you can use a teaspoon of sugar once or twice a day. I have had a few cups of tea as a treat, but one tsp of sugar isn't sweet enough to excite me so most days I don't bother. Re salt, I'm surprised at how quick I'm getting used to it.
2. Limit starchy veggies to no more than half a cup a day and never after 2 pm. This was a bit of a change for me. I used to LIVE on baked yams and roasted beets-- more than a half a cup at a time, for sure!
3. Shift more calories to breakfast. I don't naturally feel like eating that much at breakfast. I drink a lot of coffee with milk and that's about it. So that has been interesting-- big breakfast, small dinner.
The plan is terrific, but I still know that I better find a way to work through my food issues or one day I'll get overwhelmed by stress again and snap, like I did last time, and start binging again. Finding out how NOT to do that is going to be the real trick.
11-19-2012, 04:11 PM
Those are some good rules ubergirl. Taming the palate is part of my plan too... not adding salt or sugar free syrups etc to things, but letting the palate get used to the flavor of more plain, calm foods.
I had a perfect day yesterday and am halfway through a perfect day today, just plugging along...
11-20-2012, 10:02 AM
Taming the palate is part of my plan too... not adding salt or sugar free syrups etc to things, but letting the palate get used to the flavor of more plain, calm foods.
Seems to be working pretty well for me. I really like salt and always add table salt to food, so I'm surprised how quickly I'm used to doing without it. And of course I REALLY like sugar. I know that I only like carrot sticks when I'm not also eating a bunch of Oreos.
Congrats on the perfect day and a half!
11-20-2012, 10:49 AM
Ugh I woke up sicker. Last night I felt so awful that I only was able to eat half my dinner. Everything else was on plan. Went to bed early and woke up with the WORST face pain. I am already on augmentin and sudafed. this sucks!!!
11-20-2012, 10:55 AM
Hi Lyn! :wave: I've loved reading your posts and your blog (I've been around longer than my join date suggests) and you've always been a major inspiration. :) I know how it feels to be at this for so long, as I've been fighting this round more or less since 2004. I also know what it's like to face a big regain; in my case it came in the form of over 25 pounds last winter, the only major regain I've had in the past 8 years. I was so stressed about RL stuff that I not only gave up on eating better, I munched out on carbs and deep-fried goodies like there was no tomorrow. :( It really sucked because even when I'm not actively trying to lose weight, I'm at least eating for maintenance. But I'd thrown all that completely out the window.
I know what works for me. The hard part is cracking down and actually making myself do it, which is why I tend to lose 20-40 pounds at a time before taking a maintenance break and eventually working on another set of 20-40 pounds. Loss is slow for me (I'm lucky for one pound a week) but I hit a realization when the 24's that were once too big for me were painfully pinching at my belly. I put my foot down in March and got myself back on track; enough was enough!
I think the fact that you're here and that you keep blogging says a lot about your determination. I wish you luck on this reboot of yours and hope that you can get things turned around soon. :hug: You can do it! And you've got us to share and vent with. :) I'm really sorry about your foot issues and hope that getting a hold of this will help ease the pain you're in. :^:
11-20-2012, 12:02 PM
Thanks Elladorine! I need all the support I can get right now. Thank you for sharing your story.
I am not going to let this illness throw me off. I absolutely refuse to eat anything not on plan. Which, so far, is not an issue since I have mostly lost my appetite...
I was on this forum under another name (I don't even remember what it was, I mostly just read) for a couple of years before I started blogging. I have a love for this forum and it feels like home. Even though there are very few of the same folks, it has ALWAYS been a supportive place. I am so glad to be here :)
We are going to do this guys, we will all get there.
11-20-2012, 07:15 PM
(((hugs)))) Sorry you're not feeling well. Get plenty of rest and go easy on yourself!
It is deeply frustrating that instead of winning the fight once and for all, we have to keep fighting over and over again. But we're so much better off than we would be if we had never started. In that case, we'd certainly be bigger than we were at the very beginning and that's not true-- not even close in your case.
Hang in there!
11-20-2012, 07:18 PM
I dunno about you ubergirl, but to me I almost feel like I am in a nightmare. I vividly remember how it felt to weigh 175 pounds, to be in size 10 jeans, so feel NORMAL for once in my life. I remember everyone complimenting me, I remember how easy it was to move and how HAPPY I felt. And now when I look in the mirror, or when I roll myself out of bed every morning in pain, I am kind of horrified, and wonder if I am going to wake up from this nightmare and be thinner again. I hate it.
11-20-2012, 07:55 PM
Lyn, I'm sorry you're feeling so awful. Honestly, I don't think I feel as awful as you. I'm having the opposite problem which is that I keep thinking that I'm still how I was then. I feel fitter and slimmer even though I'm not (well, I'm fitter and slimmer than I was back in 2009, but I'm fatter and more out-of-shape than I was a year ago.
I'm just in HUGE DENIAL about the whole thing. Then, I just got a whole bunch of pictures this morning and I was so depressed because I could see the evidence of my 260 lbs very clearly. Sigh.
I think the hardest thing for me is patience. I feel like it should be quicker and easier to get back there, but I realize that it's going to take just as long to lose it as I did this time around.
11-20-2012, 09:29 PM
Oh I have had that feeling too... the denial... but this time around there was no denying, because I got rid of all my bigger clothes and have pretty much nothing to wear. And I have a mirrored double door closet in my bedroom. And... the foot pain, I am sure it was aggravated by the weight. I cannot do any of the things I could do a year ago. I had to quit some of my dog sports. I hate it.
And yeah me too on the impatience! I keep looking at the calendar thinking omg, if I am so lucky that I lose at the same rate I did last time on Medifast... I will hit 175 pounds in...mid-July. And that is just terrifying!!! 175 isn't even at goal! It really bothers me that I have to do this all over again.
Guess we will just have to be patient together, eh?
*BTW, I just noticed your quote, I love it!
11-20-2012, 10:18 PM
Lyn - I am so sorry to hear that you are sick. Phooey! Try to drink lots of water - cold/warm/or hot... which ever goes down the easiest.
Yes.. we have been 'around' 3fc for a long time. Just proves that it's a lifelong journey - this having sanity with food.
One thing that has helped me is the daily posting in the gratitude thread. (aside from when my computer wasn't working) If I was on plan or off plan or binging or anything - I still posted there. It was like keeping one toe in the water. I wouldn't let myself run away... which I, of course, have wanted to do a time or two. Just a thought. (I've been writing down daily gratitudes for 12 years - no matter what, I can always find something for which to be grateful.)
PS. Am glad you are posting again. (and Uber, too)
11-20-2012, 11:28 PM
I have always enjoyed the gratitude thread :)
What the heck ever happened to rockinrobin... and what about warmaiden? cfmama? calluna? Gosh where did everybody go? I always wonder how they are. I hope they stop by sometime and check in.
11-21-2012, 06:06 AM
Lyn - I have wondered where those folks have gone too. I guess sometimes life goes is different directions.
11-21-2012, 10:13 AM
I am just going to pop in daily to see what's going on over here and update my ticker. I am weighing daily at the moment and moving my ticker when the scale moves, just to keep me stay motivated. I only count it an "official" weigh in on Sundays though. But I am down 3 pounds so that is good.
11-21-2012, 05:26 PM
Beverly Joy-- you are so right about posting every single day NO MATTER WHAT and keeping your toe in. During the time I was rapidly gaining, over about 5 months, I have not one single entry in my calorie/food log and I'm sure I wasn't here at all. And yes, I think the truth of the matter is that it is more like a thinner-fatter-thinner-fatter-thinner journey through a lifetime, not really a train that you get on and then get off in "Thin Land."
LynUgh. The clothes! I got rid of every single thing big thing I owned except for a few stretchy things that seem to fit at any size. And I did bust out of all of them and have to buy new stuff... what really got to me was that last winter I was in the process of regaining, and so I didn't buy any new winter clothes I just sort of went along, but then this winter I looked into my closet and realized that I couldn't make it through the winter. No jacket. No coat. No nice pants. No long-sleeved shirts. I had to buy myself a few new things or I couldn't leave the house. But somehow, I keep thinking that I don't look quite as FAT as I actually look. I guess it's because on the way down I was pretty thrilled when I got into a 20. But a 20 on the way up doesn't feel quite the same.
In any case, I'm back on track. I'm hoping to get into the low 200s by the end of May. I really think that if I stay fit, I can live with myself at that weight.
Also, I often wonder what goes on with folk too. I remember Rockin Robin seemed to disappear from one day to the next. I always hope that people are going on with their thin lives and are not regainers like me.
11-21-2012, 06:11 PM
I hope those folks are doing well. There was a guy, too. I can't think of his name. Was it Matt?
It proves that this weight stuff never gets easy. We have to keep plugging along. But... we DO keep trying and don't give up forever. We come back to trying. It seems often when I 'try again' I switch it up a little bit. Just to make it a little fresh.
We have to keep trying again because, maybe, just maybe the next time is THE TIME it will stick for good.
11-21-2012, 09:12 PM
Well, I'd say that ALL THREE OF US are already winners. Think of it. If the statistics are right most people can't maintain a loss of 10% of our body weight and all 3 of us have already done that! We ROCK!
(I just decided to change my ticker back so that it shows the weight I started at back in June 2009. Made me happy cuz I immediately lost a bunch of extra weight!) Refuse to change my chickie either!!!!!
11-21-2012, 09:31 PM
LOL, love the ticker change! Ahh yes, we have already beat the odds. we will grow old together and have a party with cucumbers and carrot sticks...
11-21-2012, 09:45 PM
If the statistics are right most people can't maintain a loss of 10% of our body weight and all 3 of us have already done that! We ROCK!
(I just decided to change my ticker back so that it shows the weight I started at back in June 2009. Made me happy cuz I immediately lost a bunch of extra weight!)
I'm never ever ever going to lose sight that I was once 360 pounds. An old friend once asked me how much weight I'd lost, and at the time it was a little over 100 pounds. She seemed very annoyed with my answer and claimed that a portion of what I'd lost "didn't count" because "it had been too long." Aw H3LL no, it ALL counts! :p Anyway, I guess what really annoyed me was that she completely dismissed the amount I've managed to keep off over the years.
Sorry to go off on a tangent but after reading about how awesome we are at maintaining a certain loss I just had to bring it up. ;)
11-27-2012, 02:10 PM
I'm sorry you're having such a hard time! Hugs!
I could have written your post a few years ago. I was having plantar fascitis and had a strained ankle that kept me barely mobile. My weight was creeping up and up and I felt so trapped and depressed. I thought the only way out for me was surgery and I went so far as to meet with a surgeon. I'm not endorsing surgery one way or the other, but for me it felt like the last resort. But - the surgeon told me that in order to qualify for my insurance to pay for it, I had to have a six month documented weight loss attempt. I thought of it as a waiting period, but went ahead and made the hospital 6 month weight loss program my plan. And then my life changed and my marriage broke up and I lost a lot of weight very quickly due to stress. BUT - once I lost 30lbs, my foot stopped hurting and I could walk and once I lost 50lbs, I could really exercise and run and I had my life back. Even just 10lbs made a HUGE difference in my mobility which boosted my mood and kept the cycle going.
I think your idea of Medi-Fast for a short period of time might be enough to get your mobility back? Also - I think we were stationary bike buddies at one time?? I remember using mine when I wanted to exercise when I was at my highest and had a sore foot. I would DVR hour long tv shows and save them for my workouts. I became addicted to all kinds of tv than I ever had been but I made the rule that to watch the shows I had to be on the bike. There were days that I just sat on it and barely moved the pedals, but most of the time I got something of a workout and eventually it was something I really looked forward to. Maybe try your bike again?
I think the good that came out of that experience with my foot was that weight loss really wasn't about vanity to me - it was about getting my life back. And even now, I am terrified of being back there and while I have gained weight, I am going to nip it and get going again because I can't go back there. I know how awful it is and I have so much sympathy for you. But it is fixable. You don't have to get to goal to start feeling better - just 10lbs. You can do that. You've done it before - you can do it again!
11-29-2012, 05:27 PM
Thanks Annie! Yes on the bike. My PT just okayed me to start biking again very slowly and gently. I haven't done it yet. My energy is a bit on the low side. But I will do it, I am determined!