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wuv2bloved
05-15-2012, 01:03 PM
Hey there ladies and gents!!!....I noticed that y'all Vol 5 was over 500 post so I figured I would start a new one for y'all before the other one gets closed without notice!!


Determinedat47
05-15-2012, 01:13 PM
Thanks for opening new thread Wuv-
I am still struggling to get back on the wagon- Did great over weekend then last night, lost control and ate not one, but 2 bowls of cereal. grrrrrrrr. Don't understand why it is so hard to get back to it when originally it seemed effortless.

GoodEatsandWine
05-15-2012, 02:33 PM
Thank you Cap for all the great info on that book! And a big thanks to everyone else for suggesting the amazon.ca website to get it now. I think this is just what I've been looking for! The past couple weeks I've read Atkins Diet (to find out how to slowly ease back starchy carbs into my diet), Glycemic Index for Dummies, and Wheat Belly. My husband must think I'm crazy since I've just started Phase 4 of IP but I have always wondered why carbs effect me the way they do...headaches, weight gain around my middle (tummy and love-handles), bloating, muscle aches, sinus problems, fatigue, brain fog, etc. etc. etc.!!! I feel like I'm getting so close to finding out! I LOVE this website/blog/thread...thank you all so much :)


SaraBean
05-15-2012, 03:55 PM
UGH. I haven't been on this site in almost a week and a half. I am SO NERVOUS about giving a presentation tomorrow that it has taken all my energy to not focus on eating bad food for stress relief. I feel such a tightness in my stomach about giving public speeches and I cannot wait for tomorrow to be over.

Even though I have been following good eating habits.... I have gained 3 lbs! I am so upset. I am hoping it is just stress weight and that it will disappear in a few days. It is pretty disappointing though.

Hope you all are in better spirits than me.... Sorry to be a wet blanket.

Momto2cs
05-15-2012, 04:41 PM
Stress can cause weight gain! Good luck with your presentation!
I am enjoying my ip chicken soup with curry and cauliflower. I have not come up with a non ip lunch I like any better. Paired with a salad I am full and satisfied. I guess ip will be getting my $$ for a while yet!

jennydoodle
05-15-2012, 04:48 PM
Thank you Cap for all the great info on that book! And a big thanks to everyone else for suggesting the amazon.ca website to get it now. I think this is just what I've been looking for! The past couple weeks I've read Atkins Diet (to find out how to slowly ease back starchy carbs into my diet), Glycemic Index for Dummies, and Wheat Belly. My husband must think I'm crazy since I've just started Phase 4 of IP but I have always wondered why carbs effect me the way they do...headaches, weight gain around my middle (tummy and love-handles), bloating, muscle aches, sinus problems, fatigue, brain fog, etc. etc. etc.!!! I feel like I'm getting so close to finding out! I LOVE this website/blog/thread...thank you all so much :)

You were able to order it on amazon.ca even though you are US? If so, I am going to go get a copy as well!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
05-15-2012, 05:19 PM
Thanks WUV, You are looking so hot young lady....

Stress can definately cause weight gain. I hope everyone has a great day, mine has been pretty good as the grand opening of our new area went on without a hitch and everything looks so shiny and new.

GoodEatsandWine
05-15-2012, 06:24 PM
You were able to order it on amazon.ca even though you are US? If so, I am going to go get a copy as well!

I was able to order it with no problems. When I logged in, I thought I would be asked to open a new account but I used the same user name/password as my amazon.com account and it had all my info. I also got a confirmation emailed to me, so all looks good!

capricious
05-15-2012, 07:40 PM
Sarahbean- stress is a huge factor in weight. When stressed say hello to cortisol and nasty side kick grehlin. Grehlin will make you want and want and want what you don't need. Cortisol is actually the most dominant hormone we have. Can override all the rest. It is the boss. And it will do a whole slough of things from getting you to eat to storing it around your middle to making you depressed so that you will eat more. It is one big nasty cycle. It will hold onto water (probably what you have going on). It is unfortunate that you are so stressed about public speaking- is it because you are nervous to talk in front of so many? Try not to focus on your nervousness (easier said than done I know) but rather on your preparation. Repeating the speech over and over and over and over to yourself to your friends to your husband. And focus on your success in presenting a well thought out and rehearsed speech- you deserve that success so consider it yours! I wish you the best of luck with it...
Once this speech is done at least you know you'll be ridding yourself of a very large stressor and your hormones should return to normal.
GoodEats&Wine- I hear ya! I've read Atkins site and bought the cookbook (it was a bit higher in calories than I felt was necessarily warranted), walked on the Paleo side of life a bit and even went exploring in the raw zone (this one led to my unfortunate run in with dried fruit), mixed in the clean eating all the way through. IP is a great program that works extremely well for weight loss but I do think that it's maintenance program should be a bit more defined. But there isn't a program out there that is one size fits all. Some will do alright with having carbs for breakfast... some will crash & burn. Some will be able to have pasta in the evenings... some would gain 3 pounds for having done so. There's a lot of carbs out there and they are not created equal and then this again has to translate over to the individual. Better for each of us to discover our carb tolerances and intolerances.
I also think the 'free for all day' is setting many up for failure. Because if you ended up overweight in the first place you have issues with food such as overeating or late night eating or binge eating. The free day allows all of these behaviors that we have modified out of ourselves while dieting to make a cameo appearance once a week. It isn't long before they root in and take over. Better to take the new fresh you that has just lost a bunch of weight and shed a bunch of bad habits and keep yourself that way for as long as possible. A treat meal once a week is proven to be good for both body & mind. A day of behaving badly only leads to more and more and more of those days...
Maile & Mom2cs- Thank you both for your support about the cookie. This is a lifestyle. The further I progress the more I feel I'm able to set boundaries for myself and stick to them. Still really dislike feeling socially awkward but some part of me feels that if it is the right choice for me I am warranted in my refusal. It does seem like society is coming around slowly. More and more emphasis is being placed on bringing healthy snacks for the kids. And when I spoke more at length with my daughter about the cookie issue and explained to her that treats will always be readily available so we need to be choosy about what we partake in rather than accepting everything. I try to explain this in terms of health rather than weight. And to explain some of the health issues that arise from not properly nourishing our bodies. Because really, the amount of disease that is associated with improper nutrition is astronomical. You are at more risk for pretty much everything. Diabetes, cancer, autoimmune issues. It's not worth the cookie.
Mom2cs- the almond butter tastes fantastic in the shake- if you're having it for breakfast throw some chia seeds in there too... they're a great tasting thickener that will keep you regular ;)
Maile- I hope you like the book. You've done so well with your maintenance- congrats on month 7 by the way!!- this book will probably just be interesting reading for the hormonal aspect. But I do like the in depth understanding of what hormone is coming into play- rather than just feeling it and having no idea where it's coming from (re: cravings).
I read something interesting in a fitness mag yesterday. A study has apparently proven that while a calorie is a calorie when subjects were tested for how many calories the body used to process a whole, clean meal (whole wheat bread with real cheese) vs. process a refined processed meal (white bread with processed cheese) the subjects used almost double the amount of calories (137) to process the whole meal vs. the processed one (74)...

capricious
05-15-2012, 07:48 PM
Determined- 50 pounds provides a lot more motivation than 10 does. Do you have any 'before' pics kicking around? Might be useful to look at them...
If you find yourself wanting to snack in the evenings it's time to incorporate exercise right at that point. Go for a walk, jog, do a dvd, skip rope. It will refocus you, curb your appetite and retrain your response to boredom. It sounds a heck of a lot less appealing than a bowl of cereal I know- but it works. Nothing will kick a night time eating habit like exercise. You won't even want to reach for the cereal because you won't like being forced to exercise instead :P

usmcvet
05-15-2012, 08:33 PM
UGH. I haven't been on this site in almost a week and a half. I am SO NERVOUS about giving a presentation tomorrow that it has taken all my energy to not focus on eating bad food for stress relief. I feel such a tightness in my stomach about giving public speeches and I cannot wait for tomorrow to be over.

Even though I have been following good eating habits.... I have gained 3 lbs! I am so upset. I am hoping it is just stress weight and that it will disappear in a few days. It is pretty disappointing though.

Hope you all are in better spirits than me.... Sorry to be a wet blanket.
You should find the children's book, I think it is called the Emperor's Clothes?

SaraBean
05-15-2012, 10:51 PM
Capricious - thank you for your advice. that is what I have been doing. practicing practicing practicing :) I HATE public speaking to begin with and the added stress of getting a pass / fail grade based on my research makes it even more stressful. you are right. it will be great to have this huge stress behind me...... and hopefully my cravings and weight gain will follow....

patns
05-16-2012, 01:30 AM
Capricious - thank you for your advice. that is what I have been doing. practicing practicing practicing :) I HATE public speaking to begin with and the added stress of getting a pass / fail grade based on my research makes it even more stressful. you are right. it will be great to have this huge stress behind me...... and hopefully my cravings and weight gain will follow....

It will be great to get this behind you.
I took a course once where we had to give a talk which was taped. Then we got feedback from the group and we reawatched the tape and told the group how we felt while giving the talk. Everyone described being far more nervous than they appeared to the group. I hope it goes well.

I am making shakes from whey powder. One ingredient called for is flaxseed. I reached on the shelf at the store for ground flaxseed. But when I got home I realized what I had was roasted flaxseed. It smells and tastes delicious in the shake.
But I think I had read somewhere that whole flaxseeds don't have any benefit because they just go right throgh you. Does anyone know if that is right?

Pat

darbs7
05-16-2012, 03:48 AM
Thanks for opening new thread Wuv-
I am still struggling to get back on the wagon- Did great over weekend then last night, lost control and ate not one, but 2 bowls of cereal. grrrrrrrr. Don't understand why it is so hard to get back to it when originally it seemed effortless.

Yup very hard...I seem to have a 13 day limit to my phase 1 movement and then I bust on day 14....and it hurts...really physcially...because I am so deep in ketosis and then bam...I am out.

I was 15 pounds above my maintenance weight when I started my reboot back at the end of March...I have only done 13 days at a time...each then busting with one day off...back in April I had a whole week off around Easter....but currently only 4 away from my maintenance weight....but now finding it impossible to jump back on after Saturday's bust. I think I will just learn to be happy here.

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
05-16-2012, 10:54 AM
Yup very hard...I seem to have a 13 day limit to my phase 1 movement and then I bust on day 14....and it hurts...really physcially...because I am so deep in ketosis and then bam...I am out.

I was 15 pounds above my maintenance weight when I started my reboot back at the end of March...I have only done 13 days at a time...each then busting with one day off...back in April I had a whole week off around Easter....but currently only 4 away from my maintenance weight....but now finding it impossible to jump back on after Saturday's bust. I think I will just learn to be happy here.

I as well find that doing phase 1 is soooo much harder. I can be good for 2 - 3 weeks and then find I am not losing, (which I should) and then just give up and have that teaspoon or 3 of peanut butter or whatever... Lately it is the air popped fake chips that only have 90 cal per 2 cups... so I thought bonus... somewhere my brain left me and I didn't bother to look at the carbs... well that 2 cups has 18 little grams of carbs.... so my cravings are back, and here I go another day back to phase 1. Have my herbal iced tea, my chai tea and my water all sitting on my desk ready to consume... we just have to do the best we can and eat healthy, I too want to lose the 15 lbs I have gained it is an immense struggle this time around but my size 8s are tight and I am not buying more clothes.

GoodEatsandWine
05-16-2012, 01:51 PM
It will be great to get this behind you.
I took a course once where we had to give a talk which was taped. Then we got feedback from the group and we reawatched the tape and told the group how we felt while giving the talk. Everyone described being far more nervous than they appeared to the group. I hope it goes well.

I am making shakes from whey powder. One ingredient called for is flaxseed. I reached on the shelf at the store for ground flaxseed. But when I got home I realized what I had was roasted flaxseed. It smells and tastes delicious in the shake.
But I think I had read somewhere that whole flaxseeds don't have any benefit because they just go right throgh you. Does anyone know if that is right?

Pat

I've recently started eating flaxseeds as well. I bought ground flaxseeds but now I'm not sure if they are roasted or not...I'll have to check later tonight when I get home! I did a little search regarding your question on whole flaxseeds and found this website:

http://www.flaxseedshop.com/content/Whole-Flax-Seed.asp

Looks pretty informative, so I thought I would pass it on!

Good answer I found:
While whole and ground flax have the same nutritional content, your body gets far more benefit from ground flax. That's because the goodness in flax is wrapped up in a hard, shiny seed coat that's hard to crack, even with careful chewing. Grinding or roasting flax breaks this seed coat making all the nutrients easy to digest. Flaxseeds are easy to grind at home using a coffee grinder, food processor or blender. You also can buy ground or "milled" flaxseed in most stores where whole flax is sold.

Momto2cs
05-16-2012, 03:09 PM
I am now afraid that when I go to England on Saturday I will go crazy! I love being more lenient on weekends, but am strict about getting back on track week days. A week away might be dangerous!
I will have everything ready to go for phase 1 the day I return. I normally focus on low carb, even if splurging on wine with it, but I know the fish and chips will get me!

capricious
05-16-2012, 03:51 PM
Enjoy your fish & chips Mom2cs! Whenever I indulge when I'm away I still try to keep it very very low carb the next (a la Phase 1) to combat the indulgence. Found it helps keep the head in the game as well.
I had a great lunch today that I really enjoyed. It is a recipe from my book.
Cucumber Cottage Cheese Salad (Sounds weird... but I loved it!)
1 cucumber diced
1 large tomato seeded & diced
1 T garlic powder
1 T dill weed
Mix these together then add
3/4 Cup Cottage Cheese
Salt & pepper to taste
The garlic does give it a bit of a kick but I'm a dill nut and this salad was awesome!
Patns- do you have a food processor? Or maybe just toss the seeds into the blender first and blend them a bit. They keep much better in whole form but it seems you are right that to fully reap the benefits they need to be ground...
2ride- Seriously, between the stress of your job and your disrupted sleeping patterns- these can both have such a detrimental effect on weight management. I really hope for you that now you have opened the new area that things will begin to stabilize for you.

Pauley
05-16-2012, 04:36 PM
Good afternoon everyone! I've been MIA for a while. I guess I just haven't had too much to say. Still plugging along in maintenance right at my goal weight. I'm still tracking daily in MFP and passed my 7 month mark a few weeks ago. I'm not always making the best food choices, but apparently I'm doing enough to maintain (along with the jogging).

I am interested to hear how the public speaking engagement goes, as that is my #1 fear as well. I keep getting asked to speak at conferences and keep refusing to do it. Fortunately, my boss has not fired me for the refusal yet. I applaud you for doing it in spite of your fear!

Mom2 - I found England to be a pretty good place to diet. It will be interesting to see what you think, but I found the food pretty unappetizing. That was not a vacation that caused weight gain for me.

I am sure enjoying watching the transformation of Wuv. Amazing. Just amazing.

patns
05-16-2012, 04:46 PM
Thanks for the info on the flaxseed Goodeats and Cap. It reinforced what I did know before. The seeds do need to be broken down. I did have a coffee grinder at one point, I need to look though the cupboards and see if I can find it.I cleared out so many things when we moved a few years ago.
If I don't find it I will have to buy a new one tomorrow.

I had always bought flaxseed preground but I can't believe how good the roasted whole ones taste.
I put them in the whey protein shakes and it tastes like I put peanut butter in them. They will taste just as well if I grind they ones I have.

I hope the hard copy of the carb sensitive book gets here today. I really like the recipes I used so far but it is hard getting them all using my kindle.

I have gotten down to the weight my doctor wants me to get to. I will be 65 this summer. I have been very overweight all my life, I got from 204 to 160
5 years ago when a naturopath (sp) told me I had to give up wheat. I was not able to get below 160 (at 5'1") no matter what I did. So I am thrilled that I got to 130 on IP.

My doctor picked that goal weight for me because he says research shows that people at the higher end of the healthy weight range live the longest. He said that as you get older it is best not to be at the lower end because if you suddenly have a health issue it is best to have a little bit of girth to fall back on.
Hubby is also not too keen on me going lighter because my 88 year old mother has been steadily shrinking for the past number of years and is becoming more and more frail. So he too thinks it's better to have a few pounds extra as we get older.

But I really want to get down a bit lower because I still have a big roll right around my middle which makes it difficult to get a good fit with clothes. I was wearing size 14 pants when I started and have only gotten down to a size 10. I say "only" because I am always amazed to see people posting their sizes on this board. People not much taller than me and around the same weight are wearing much smaller sizes. I need size 10 with my belly but then have excess fabric flapping around the rest of me. But the big problem is most summer things come in the S-M-L range. The medium is 10 - 12 which is too big; the S is 6-8 which is too small.I can't believe how fussy I have become about things fitting well. I used to just grap whatever fit around me in the morning and be off to work in a minute. Now maybe I cahnge 3 times trying fo a fit that is comfortable.

I am wearing an 8 on top. I have always had to wear petite sizes for proportion because I have very narrow shoulders.
I have stuck to the IP plan since August. The weight has really come off the top end of me but doesn't seem to want to budge around the middle.

For the past three months I was really still following phase 1 but the weight has just not moved. So I have actually maintained for 3 months on phase 1. I did have a very scary venture into phase 3 so don't plan to go down that path again.

Anyway, I am very interested about what will happen with the carb sensitive plan. At the very least it will be change for my body.

Mom, funny you mentioned the fish and chips! I am going back home to Nova Scotia for the first week in June. My mom has finally agreed to move to assisted living which she surprisingly really likes. I have to go help my siblings clear out her condo. She has not gone out since she moved but says she wants me to take her for some new clothes and fish and chips when I get there. She is from England originally and Nova Scotia is a fantastic place for fish and chips. I keep telling myself that I lived there for 50 years and didn't have fish and chips everyday so don't need to now.

I will watch to see if you avoid falling deeply down that hole while in England. But you have far more lean muscle than me to fight off the gain from fish and chips.
Good luck!!

I hope everyone is have a healthy and happy day.

Pat

Momto2cs
05-16-2012, 05:26 PM
Pat, I am heading to nova scotia in the summer! I will have to focus on unbattered fish...finding veggies will be the tough part as we are going to a small town in cape Breton. Everything comes with potatoes! My mom was raised there, do that was how I ate all my like.
Funny, I was always thin until after my kids were born. So either age, pregnancy or both really did something bad to my metabolism!

patns
05-16-2012, 07:33 PM
Pat, I am heading to nova scotia in the summer! I will have to focus on unbattered fish...finding veggies will be the tough part as we are going to a small town in cape Breton. Everything comes with potatoes! My mom was raised there, do that was how I ate all my like.
Funny, I was always thin until after my kids were born. So either age, pregnancy or both really did something bad to my metabolism!

Ha, we are likely related. I am from Cape Breton too but all my family is in Halifax now.

I have had a bad metabolism all my life. I started to gain weight when I was 8. My mom went back home to England for a visit and I didn't like the food the housekeeper made and I survived on apples. As you said elsewhere, little sugar bombs. My mother almost didn't recognize me when she came back.
My daughter is leaving for NS tomorrow. She met the love of her life and he is from Glace Bay. She is going to meet his mom.
I had to laugh because we have an eastern European last name now due to hubby. I always told her she would latch onto a Scot just to get a name like my original last name. That's what happened and dad is not too pleased.

Mom's short term memory is not good now. Maybe she will forget about the fish and chips!
Keep us posted about the trip to England.

Pat

GoodEatsandWine
05-16-2012, 07:43 PM
I posted these handouts I got when I started Phase 4, on another thread (Phase 4 - Transitioning), but thought they might be helpful here as well. Since I can only upload 5 at a time, I had to break it up into two parts. LOL! I always feel like I post two-in-a-row comments. Sorry to be a thread hog :)

GoodEatsandWine
05-16-2012, 07:52 PM
The recipes weren't too exciting but at least you get the idea of a fat meal versus a carb meal. I really liked the snack ideas shown in the sample week menu handout. 3 cups of popcorn!! Remember these are suggestions and you should still go slow to see how much you can handle.

Momto2cs
05-16-2012, 10:52 PM
If I ate three cups of popcorn I would be up the next day!
I much prefer nuts, cheese, eggs, pepperoni...
No gain
I don't know why carbs hate me do much after never thinking about any of this my entire life and never exercising. Now it's 1-2 hours a day and very restricted...
I do enjoy some wine though!

jennydoodle
05-17-2012, 11:04 AM
I was wearing size 14 pants when I started and have only gotten down to a size 10. I say "only" because I am always amazed to see people posting their sizes on this board. People not much taller than me and around the same weight are wearing much smaller sizes. I need size 10 with my belly but then have excess fabric flapping around the rest of me.

Pat, it is probably just your body "shape" and it could be that you need to find a designer that caters to your shape. I am about 8 pounds heavier and right around the same height and I wear a 4. However, I would be what you consider "curvy". I have a very small waist (26.5") and larger hips and butt (36").

I have found that Ann Taylor (&Loft) and Banana Republic fit my shape the best for pants. I cannot wear ANY pants from Gap or Old Navy because there is way too much room in the waist for me. So it might just be a matter of brand too. Also, I always look for "curvy" cuts of pants if designers make them.

Oh, and as an FYI for any other curvy ladies out there, I have found the most amazing jeans for us "apple bottomed girls". It is called PZI Jeans and believe they are only available on line. They are the most flattering and comfortable jeans I have ever owned.

GoodEatsandWine
05-17-2012, 01:52 PM
If I ate three cups of popcorn I would be up the next day!
I much prefer nuts, cheese, eggs, pepperoni...
No gain
I don't know why carbs hate me do much after never thinking about any of this my entire life and never exercising. Now it's 1-2 hours a day and very restricted...
I do enjoy some wine though!

I totally agree with you! My carb meal (dinner) is just another fat/protein meal for me and it seems to work just fine so far. I'm also with you on the wine!!

Momto2cs
05-17-2012, 03:33 PM
I am also curvy-although I am a lot taller than you guys! I. An never find pants that fit in the legs and waist. My thighs and calves are big...but extremely muscular. They will never be small.
I love banana republic too. The gap perfect trouser is also good. Both have wider leg pants. I have some Ann Taylor's as weel that I like-I can often fit a 4 there which makes me feel good!
Body shape can be so funny. I wish I had skinny legs and ok'd wear all those cute straight legged capris, but I never could, even when I was 17 and weighed 110. Bad leg genes :(

GoodEatsandWine
05-17-2012, 04:18 PM
You were able to order it on amazon.ca even though you are US? If so, I am going to go get a copy as well!

I just received this book and I only just ordered it on Tuesday the 15th! I thought it would have taken much longer since it was international delivery. So exciting for a person that has no patience whatsoever :D

jennydoodle
05-17-2012, 04:53 PM
GEAW- That is awesome! I ordered mine and they are saying it will ship the week of the 29th. I am hoping it will ship before, but either way, it beats waiting until August :)

Mom- check out PZI Jeans. They even have short, regular and tall lengths and they really are made for those of us with bigger legs and rears. I always loved the knee high boots trends, but my calves NEVER fit into boots :( I also can't wear skinny jeans, my calves don't fit into them.

Busymomx4
05-17-2012, 05:01 PM
Mom- check out PZI Jeans. They even have short, regular and tall lengths and they really are made for those of us with bigger legs and rears. I always loved the knee high boots trends, but my calves NEVER fit into boots :( I also can't wear skinny jeans, my calves don't fit into them.

I know i'm not in maintenance but always read the thread and just wanted to post to you cause i'm so glad i'm not the only one with big calves, its one of my issues and don't know how to get them smaller (you can look at my profile picture how big they are compared to the rest of me).

Momto2cs
05-17-2012, 05:40 PM
Very nice picture. Your legs don't look that big! I think mine are 16" in the ip measure. And no ankles. I have always hated them, I should have been 5'9"! My upper body is very long and thin, bottom very short and squat.

Sigh. At least they don't jiggle anymore!

Sadly, my dd seems to have inherited them...maybe not quite as bad, as she looks like she might get to 5'10" plus based on head measurements at the neurologist...I hope so!

jennydoodle
05-17-2012, 05:45 PM
I know i'm not in maintenance but always read the thread and just wanted to post to you cause i'm so glad i'm not the only one with big calves, its one of my issues and don't know how to get them smaller (you can look at my profile picture how big they are compared to the rest of me).

I haven't lost anything in my calves, so I don't think there really is anything we can do. Sigh. Oh well.

Ishbel
05-17-2012, 09:34 PM
Hide ho neighbours! Didn't get to have my first meal in maintenance the way I wanted it...but hey, I did it and it fit the rules! I finished phase 3 business travel and Im still not home! But will be home tomorrow and in time to go grocery shopping and get proper grains, have some quinoa recipes I'd like to try.

Definately feel a difference between sprouted grain and just whole grain flour....never thought I'd notice a difference. Apparently having a huge elimination diet and slowly adding things in allows you to really listen to your body! ;)

Determinedat47
05-17-2012, 09:47 PM
I know i'm not in maintenance but always read the thread and just wanted to post to you cause i'm so glad i'm not the only one with big calves, its one of my issues and don't know how to get them smaller (you can look at my profile picture how big they are compared to the rest of me).

Looking awesome-way to go!!!!!!

patns
05-18-2012, 01:41 AM
Hide ho neighbours! Didn't get to have my first meal in maintenance the way I wanted it...but hey, I did it and it fit the rules! I finished phase 3 business travel and Im still not home! But will be home tomorrow and in time to go grocery shopping and get proper grains, have some quinoa recipes I'd like to try.

Definately feel a difference between sprouted grain and just whole grain flour....never thought I'd notice a difference. Apparently having a huge elimination diet and slowly adding things in allows you to really listen to your body! ;)

Good for you, it is very difficult to handle the phasing off while travelling. You will so enjoy being home and having your own kitchen again.
I think I will try quinoa too.


Bustmom, what an incredible difference in your profife pictures! I am so jealous of how well you can go "sleeveless".

Pat

bigpassport
05-18-2012, 02:38 AM
I'm a disaster. Went out of town last weekend and had 3 free-ish days. Came home and have tried to get back to P1. I do pretty well during the day, but I've been snacking every night. Tonight I just went ahead and had a free night. I totally lost control. This week has been stressful which adds to the desire to eat. I think Cap is right about the danger of IP advocating a free day to people who obviously have eating-in-moderation issues. I need to do P1/2 until I get back down to my normal thin weight, then eat P2 most of the time, 1400 calories per day and Saturdays will be a nice meal and maybe a sweet treat, not a free-for- all. I finished my 8 week challenge with friends and immediately stopped logging and exercising. I need something to motivate me to keep logging, exercising and keeping my weight low. Discipline is so hard:(

bigpassport
05-18-2012, 03:21 AM
I hope the hard copy of the carb sensitive book gets here today. I really like the recipes I used so far but it is hard getting them all using my kindle.



Did you find the Carb Sensitivity Program on Kindle? I can't find it. I'm so spoiled by my iPad, I am no longer capable of reading actual paper books.

Busymomx4
05-18-2012, 07:50 AM
Very nice picture. Your legs don't look that big! I think mine are 16" in the ip measure. And no ankles. I have always hated them, I should have been 5'9"! My upper body is very long and thin, bottom very short and squat.

Sigh. At least they don't jiggle anymore!

Sadly, my dd seems to have inherited them...maybe not quite as bad, as she looks like she might get to 5'10" plus based on head measurements at the neurologist...I hope so!

I'm only 5'5"and mine are 16' too and they still gigge lol

I haven't lost anything in my calves, so I don't think there really is anything we can do. Sigh. Oh well.

I know i have lost a lot there too but even when younger and thin, they've always been bigger than average. My trainer showed me and exercise to sretch them, hopefully it will thin them out, i was soo looking forward to wearing high leg boots, its bumming me out.
Btw, i checked the site you mentioned for the jeans and in checking the measurement, my waist is 31' and hips 40', which puts me in 2 different sizes, which one should i pick?
Was thinking the one for my hips cause at the waist i have lots of loose skin which can be squeezed in lol.

Looking awesome-way to go!!!!!!

Aww thank you so much :)

Good for you, it is very difficult to handle the phasing off while travelling. You will so enjoy being home and having your own kitchen again.
I think I will try quinoa too.


Bustmom, what an incredible difference in your profife pictures! I am so jealous of how well you can go "sleeveless".


Pat

Well there's little sleeve on that dress but i usually have a sweater over lol. And I'm good as long as i don't lift my arms, then i could hit someone with my major bat wings lol

CassiR
05-18-2012, 10:54 AM
Morning all!
Looks like i'll be joining you maintainers tomorrow! Today is my last day of p3 and I have my final WI tomorrow morning. Hope you don't mind if I join you from time to time! This forum has been so helpful this entire journey.
When did you all have your first free day? I've been craving chinese and want to get that out of my system!
I go on vacation this week as well. I'm hoping to stay within p4 guidlines as best I can so I do not have to go back to p1. But it's still nice to know that p1 is there just in case.
I bought a "Spirooli" off amazon! It's this little kitchen gadget that turns any vegetable into noodles. You can even make your own curly fries with it. I'm going to try making zucchini noodles with it this weekend. I'll let you guys know how it turns out!
:dance:

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
05-18-2012, 11:25 AM
Thanks for the info on the flaxseed Goodeats and Cap. It reinforced what I did know before. The seeds do need to be broken down. I did have a coffee grinder at one point, I need to look though the cupboards and see if I can find it.I cleared out so many things when we moved a few years ago.
If I don't find it I will have to buy a new one tomorrow.

I had always bought flaxseed preground but I can't believe how good the roasted whole ones taste.
For the past three months I was really still following phase 1 but the weight has just not moved. So I have actually maintained for 3 months on phase 1. I did have a very scary venture into phase 3 so don't plan to go down that path again.

Anyway, I am very interested about what will happen with the carb sensitive plan. At the very least it will be change for my body.


I hope everyone is have a healthy and happy day.

Pat Good morning Pat, how is your husband doing? There is a brand name jeans that I have found at Value Village that I like, they also sell them in a store in Wetaskiwin... FCJ they are French cut Jeans they are so comfy and they fit nice. Hope you can find some.. size is a big issue for me too I have to try a lot of things on before I find ones that fit. But the FCJ's fit without trying on.

Where did you buy the roasted flaxseed? going to have to try that.

The recipes weren't too exciting but at least you get the idea of a fat meal versus a carb meal. I really liked the snack ideas shown in the sample week menu handout. 3 cups of popcorn!! Remember these are suggestions and you should still go slow to see how much you can handle. OMG where were you when I started maintenance... thank you so much for posting this... I had no clue how to figure the fat and carb out and I think that is where I went wrong... going back on track now thanks to you... am printing these now.

I know i'm not in maintenance but always read the thread and just wanted to post to you cause i'm so glad i'm not the only one with big calves, its one of my issues and don't know how to get them smaller (you can look at my profile picture how big they are compared to the rest of me). my calves are still big too... I actually wanted to wait to get my tattoos so my calves would be smaller... I don't see that they are but my gum boots are not cutting off my circulation anymore so I lost a little there.

Hide ho neighbours! Didn't get to have my first meal in maintenance the way I wanted it...but hey, I did it and it fit the rules! I finished phase 3 business travel and Im still not home! But will be home tomorrow and in time to go grocery shopping and get proper grains, have some quinoa recipes I'd like to try.

Definately feel a difference between sprouted grain and just whole grain flour....never thought I'd notice a difference. Apparently having a huge elimination diet and slowly adding things in allows you to really listen to your body! ;) Hey welcome back, hope your trip went well... I make a really good quinoa Taboluah salad..I just googled it... made it for my sister's branding party last weekend and everyone looked at it like WHAT is that but they all tried it and liked it. Here is the link...
choose-healthy-food.com/quinoa-tabouli.html

I also bought quinoa flakes, macaroni, and spagetti, I have them very sparingly but I really like it. (I found them at a glutten free grocery store)

I'm a disaster. Went out of town last weekend and had 3 free-ish days. Came home and have tried to get back to P1. I do pretty well during the day, but I've been snacking every night. Tonight I just went ahead and had a free night. I totally lost control. This week has been stressful which adds to the desire to eat. I think Cap is right about the danger of IP advocating a free day to people who obviously have eating-in-moderation issues. I need to do P1/2 until I get back down to my normal thin weight, then eat P2 most of the time, 1400 calories per day and Saturdays will be a nice meal and maybe a sweet treat, not a free-for- all. I finished my 8 week challenge with friends and immediately stopped logging and exercising. I need something to motivate me to keep logging, exercising and keeping my weight low. Discipline is so hard:(This maintenance is hard business, shake it off and you will do fine. Look at the info GoodEats posted they look very helpful. Good luck and you will do great.

Morning all!
Looks like i'll be joining you maintainers tomorrow! Today is my last day of p3 and I have my final WI tomorrow morning. Hope you don't mind if I join you from time to time! This forum has been so helpful this entire journey.
When did you all have your first free day? I've been craving chinese and want to get that out of my system!
I go on vacation this week as well. I'm hoping to stay within p4 guidlines as best I can so I do not have to go back to p1. But it's still nice to know that p1 is there just in case.
I bought a "Spirooli" off amazon! It's this little kitchen gadget that turns any vegetable into noodles. You can even make your own curly fries with it. I'm going to try making zucchini noodles with it this weekend. I'll let you guys know how it turns out!
:dance:I think everyone is different when they had their first free day... it depends on what your schedule is basically.. I didn't have mine until day 7, but others had them day 1 or day 3... Congrats on getting here. I love zucchini noodles, I just use my potato peeler to get nice long thick noodles. But I have heard so much about Spirooli and will have to look for one.

Have a great day everyone, and those of you with the holiday Have a great long weekend I am so looking forward to my 4 days off.:hug:

jennydoodle
05-18-2012, 11:30 AM
Btw, i checked the site you mentioned for the jeans and in checking the measurement, my waist is 31' and hips 40', which puts me in 2 different sizes, which one should i pick?
Was thinking the one for my hips cause at the waist i have lots of loose skin which can be squeezed in lol.


Go for whichever one is closest to the size you normally wear. They fit pretty true to size. If you normally wear a 6, go for the 6. But I think going for the hip measurement is the way to go.

GoodEatsandWine
05-18-2012, 01:42 PM
Morning all!
Looks like i'll be joining you maintainers tomorrow! Today is my last day of p3 and I have my final WI tomorrow morning. Hope you don't mind if I join you from time to time! This forum has been so helpful this entire journey.
When did you all have your first free day? I've been craving chinese and want to get that out of my system!
I go on vacation this week as well. I'm hoping to stay within p4 guidlines as best I can so I do not have to go back to p1. But it's still nice to know that p1 is there just in case.
I bought a "Spirooli" off amazon! It's this little kitchen gadget that turns any vegetable into noodles. You can even make your own curly fries with it. I'm going to try making zucchini noodles with it this weekend. I'll let you guys know how it turns out!
:dance:

Congrat's and good luck in P4! Do tell us about the spirooli! I'm curious to hear if it works well.

darbs7
05-18-2012, 02:02 PM
My clothing problem is opposite...I am smaller on the bottom than the top....I am a size 8 pants no problem.....boots fall down too big around calves....legs and butt are small and trim. I don't really have hips....I had a tummy tuck to remove loose skin so I have a very flat lower belly....

but the chest and rib cage area are my biggest problem. My arms used to be horrible, but they are better now. I went from a 40 DDD to a 36 D so I am still chesty.

zip up dresses are an issue for me....I wear dresses and skirts almost every day for work.

SaraBean
05-18-2012, 04:34 PM
It will be great to get this behind you.
I took a course once where we had to give a talk which was taped. Then we got feedback from the group and we reawatched the tape and told the group how we felt while giving the talk. Everyone described being far more nervous than they appeared to the group. I hope it goes well.

It went well! I passed my defense :) I also got back on the scale and was down the weight I had gained..... It is so great to have this behind me.

Thanks for your support everyone!

SaraBean
05-18-2012, 04:35 PM
CassiR- I can't wait to hear how that kitchen gadget works!!!! Be sure to let us know!!!!

purple sky
05-18-2012, 04:41 PM
Mom- check out PZI Jeans. They even have short, regular and tall lengths and they really are made for those of us with bigger legs and rears. I always loved the knee high boots trends, but my calves NEVER fit into boots :( I also can't wear skinny jeans, my calves don't fit into them.


Btw, i checked the site you mentioned for the jeans and in checking the measurement, my waist is 31' and hips 40', which puts me in 2 different sizes, which one should i pick?
Was thinking the one for my hips cause at the waist i have lots of loose skin which can be squeezed in lol.

Well there's little sleeve on that dress but i usually have a sweater over lol. And I'm good as long as i don't lift my arms, then i could hit someone with my major bat wings lol

Go for whichever one is closest to the size you normally wear. They fit pretty true to size. If you normally wear a 6, go for the 6. But I think going for the hip measurement is the way to go.

Ah, so this explains it. I crammed myself into a 4 yesterday. Not a comfortable fit but they zip up tightly. 4's are hard to find so I am good at 6.

For my old shape I used to wear Gloria Vanderbilt. That worked really well. Now, it does not. The Gloria Vanderbilt has a certain kind of stretch and is extremely unflattering once it gets looser. I think it may be because it worked better with fuller curves. I have done better with Chaps lately. It's a much straighter slimming fit for me.

I am still a little odd in stores when it comes to eyeballing what fits but I am getting better at it. I feel like store clerks look at the size and say, "this won't fit you."

I don't think I can eat in a size 4 but I got them as motivation to maybe keep trying. Dunno.


but the chest and rib cage area are my biggest problem. My arms used to be horrible, but they are better now. I went from a 40 DDD to a 36 D so I am still chesty.


34F. I thought it might come down a little but it has pretty much been the same for months. I think I was able to get into medium tops in Feb. and that has not changed much. I am hoping for 34DD so I can try something without underwire. When you lose the fat in the chest, there's less padding on the rib cage and I feel the underwire more.

CassiR
05-18-2012, 04:59 PM
I think everyone is different when they had their first free day... it depends on what your schedule is basically.. I didn't have mine until day 7, but others had them day 1 or day 3... Congrats on getting here. I love zucchini noodles, I just use my potato peeler to get nice long thick noodles. But I have heard so much about Spirooli and will have to look for one.

Thank you. I may just do it tomorrow and get those nasty cravings out of the way. I'll be sure to let you all know how the spirooli works. I'm super excited! I need to find a recipe for a tomato sauce first. We might just do our normal leek pesto though. We'll see!

Congrat's and good luck in P4! Do tell us about the spirooli! I'm curious to hear if it works well.
Thank you! All the information you provided will help.

CassiR- I can't wait to hear how that kitchen gadget works!!!! Be sure to let us know!!!!
Thanks! I'm so glad to hear the scale is back to normal after your public speech. Stress really does play a huge roll in our weight.

I find that pants fit me weird too. I wear a 6 because that's what fits me in the waist. But the bottom and legs are baggy, which is incredibly embarrasing. All, and I mean ALL of my work dress pants are like this. I can fit into a 4 but they are tight in the waist and give a slight muffin top :(
I'm hoping my tummy will shrink a bit so I can wear those 4's with ease.

Busymomx4
05-18-2012, 06:45 PM
my calves are still big too... I actually wanted to wait to get my tattoos so my calves would be smaller... I don't see that they are but my gum boots are not cutting off my circulation anymore so I lost a little there.

I just got a new tattoo on my calf last saturday. was never going to get it if i waited for my calves to get smaller. Its really cute but i can't wait for it to heal so that i can shave properly, lol.

patns
05-18-2012, 07:05 PM
Did you find the Carb Sensitivity Program on Kindle? I can't find it. I'm so spoiled by my iPad, I am no longer capable of reading actual paper books.
I'm not sure if you are in the US or Canada. But you will know that for kindle you need to use amazon.com; not amazon.ca.

I just went to amazon.com and put in the title and downloaded it. But i'll check if it is still listed.

I love reading on my ipad too. I really like not have piles of books all over the place. But I don't like like for cookbook or food plan types of books as I like to flip around from place to place for those.

Pat

GoodEatsandWine
05-18-2012, 07:41 PM
So glad those handouts are helpful to some of you! You're very welcome :)

BTW, I think I found a new food additive to add to my collection! Have any of you heard of whey protein crisps?? From the description, they sound like those little crunchy rice crisps that are in some candy bars; remember $1,000,000 bars? LOL, are those still around? Anyway, this can be thrown in your cereal, oatmeal, yogurt, salad, mixed with peanut butter (for a quick snack, like peanut butter balls), almond butter, or other nut butter, for a pleasing crunch and extra protein!

I found it on netrition.com and amazon.com. Both have the natural flavor but netrition also carries a chocolate flavor that's currently backordered. Yum!

patns
05-18-2012, 11:45 PM
Sarabean, so glad your defense went well!That is so stressful, great to have it behind you.
Goodeats, those protein crisps sound really good. Probably a good thing they likely don't have them in Canada.

2Ride, now I'm trying to remember where I got the flaxseed. It was Save-On-Foods, but I can't remember if it was on 82St and 112 Ave or if it was the one near Costco in SP. I never had roasted flaxseed before because I always got the ground. They really add a nutty taste to the shakes. But I put them in my mini food processor and it did grind them up some.

My time seems so limited due to my long commute. When I am in the city which is most weekdays I just want to finish work and head out of Dodge. So I really don't food shop much except for Costco. It was so helpful when I started IP and you told me exactly where in the city to get things I needed. That was such a big time saver.

Thanks everyone for the comments on sizes and also the suggestions about pants. I will see if I can find those brands.
My problem is when I do continue to get below 130 I am losing everywhere except for the spare tire around my bell and upper butt.
I have gone from a 38 D to 34B bra size and when driving home today I was wondering if people who are not overweight notice how uncomfortable it is sitting on a bony butt. And I still find I am shocked when I go to fix a collar and hit collar bones first. But the ole belly is hanging on till the bitter end.
So I need size 10 pants to get around my belly and then they are like sails around my legs and all have a baggy seat.

If I could afford it I would have a tummy tuck like darbs but I don't think the hubby would want to pay for one for my 64th birthday!

Cassie, I will be watching for a review on the spirooli too. It sounds like a neat way to get the veggies in.

Pat

purple sky
05-19-2012, 02:47 AM
Thanks everyone for the comments on sizes and also the suggestions about pants. I will see if I can find those brands.
My problem is when I do continue to get below 130 I am losing everywhere except for the spare tire around my bell and upper butt.
I have gone from a 38 D to 34B bra size and when driving home today I was wondering if people who are not overweight notice how uncomfortable it is sitting on a bony butt. And I still find I am shocked when I go to fix a collar and hit collar bones first. But the ole belly is hanging on till the bitter end.
So I need size 10 pants to get around my belly and then they are like sails around my legs and all have a baggy seat.


I remember when the diet started working aggressively on my middle. I liked that it was working on my thighs. It wasn't doing much in the stomach area but it really was working on my bottom side. I had no idea that when fat left that area, we were left with some bone. I used to worry that I would have to sit on soft seats for the rest of my life. I had never experienced this before in a diet. Luckily it stopped. It may have been part of the reason I chose to phase down when I did. Once Phase 3 hit, a lot of fat came back to my face and my bottom side. Not a lot but enough to look better. That and maybe I got used to it. But, I also wondered if people with less padding sat on bone. I feel fine now but when it was happening it was odd. It seemed like it just took some off my rear overnight and the next morning I woke up and my gait was odd.

Ishbel
05-19-2012, 11:41 AM
So, I had an interesting ride phasing off, lost nothing in Phase 2, stressed me out to the max lol. I lost 5 in phase 3! This morning I'm 159, which is where I wanted to be when I started maintenance (actually I wanted to be 160). I'm pretty happy right now!

I think I did a pretty good job phasing off while traveling, I even had the opportunity to review the nutrients list on various breads before I picked one.

I had qinuoa last night...holy smackers what a great recipe, it's from the Clean Eating Vegetarian cook book. It fills you up...YUMMMO!

bigpassport
05-19-2012, 11:52 AM
This morning I'm 159, which is where I wanted to be when I started maintenance (actually I wanted to be 160). I'm pretty happy right now!

You should be happy!!! You've had a phenomenal weight loss. You've lost the weight of a whole person, you're nearly half your starting weight! Incredible. Welcome aboard to maintenance:)

bigpassport
05-19-2012, 11:53 AM
Will someone please teach me how to do multiple quotes?

Ishbel
05-19-2012, 11:55 AM
Will someone please teach me how to do multiple quotes?

Use the little "+" thing beside the quote for as many 'quotes' as you want. The last quote you want to quote, just hit 'quote' and they'll all show up on your reply.

You can quote me on that if you like...LOL

patns
05-19-2012, 05:14 PM
So, I had an interesting ride phasing off, lost nothing in Phase 2, stressed me out to the max lol. I lost 5 in phase 3! This morning I'm 159, which is where I wanted to be when I started maintenance (actually I wanted to be 160). I'm pretty happy right now!

I think I did a pretty good job phasing off while traveling, I even had the opportunity to review the nutrients list on various breads before I picked one.

I had qinuoa last night...holy smackers what a great recipe, it's from the Clean Eating Vegetarian cook book. It fills you up...YUMMMO!

Wow!! What an incredible job you did of phasing off while traveling.

You are a superstar!

purple sky
05-19-2012, 06:34 PM
So, I had an interesting ride phasing off, lost nothing in Phase 2, stressed me out to the max lol. I lost 5 in phase 3! This morning I'm 159, which is where I wanted to be when I started maintenance (actually I wanted to be 160). I'm pretty happy right now!

I think I did a pretty good job phasing off while traveling, I even had the opportunity to review the nutrients list on various breads before I picked one.

I had qinuoa last night...holy smackers what a great recipe, it's from the Clean Eating Vegetarian cook book. It fills you up...YUMMMO!

DH lost nicely during Phase 3 and maybe even Phase 2. This was just the brief vacation phase off but he surprisingly lost after a period of very little loss. He seems to do really well on P3. Both of us actually.

Love Quinoia.
You roast veggies (parsnips and carrots are particularly yummy) and add anything you want and drizzle with a light like vinaigrette. If interested I can try to find the recipe. Such a comfort food. I think I added cilantro and garbanzo beans.

Lately, I am on a veggie patty kick. I want to try to make some and control the grains added. (everything I buy at the store has rice and breads and other things) and I prefer them at lunch.

CassiR
05-19-2012, 06:49 PM
Had my last WI this morning and came out with a 1 lb gain. My coach said it's ok. I lost a bit last week and this morning I ate breakfast before WI, which I don't normally do. Also, my lean mass is UP!

Today is my "free" day. I'm having a lot of fun but tomorrow will feel great to get back to basics in p1. My tummy is very bloated. It is nice to get all those cravings out of my mind. Love IP!

Ishbel, you should try quinoa porridge. yum yum yum! And it's so simple. Put 1 C cooked quinoa into a small saucepan along with 1/2 C milk (I use almond milk) and warm it over the stove until it starts to simmer/boil. Put it in a bowl and top with sliced banana, cinnamon, and a drizzle of WF maple syrup. YUM! I sometimes add slivered almonds or cashews for a crunch.
It's so easy to cook a batch of quinoa before the week and then just heat this up each morning. Great for winter. DH has this every. single. day.

purple sky
05-19-2012, 06:57 PM
Okay patns, I woke up today thinking about your pants. Seriously. So, I thought I might share some that I like.

http://www.jjill.com/jjillonline/prodnav/viewall.aspx?pfid=25&sk=P&h=P

J.Jill carries some pants that I really like. Can be dressed up or down. Travel easily. Machine Washable. Chico's also has some that I like but the material is different.

The J.Jill brand is called Wearever.

http://www.jjill.com/jjillonline/prodnav/viewall.aspx?pfid=178&sk=P&h=P&BID=217985911

I just bought a pair recently as my old ones no longer fit. The material is generous enough that it works with you through different sizes. I remember. I think I used to have the full leg one and that dresses up very nicely. I think I bought the straight leg one recently and I was surprised it fit. But, that one works better with my new shape. The beauty of that full leg one is that it did a beautiful job of slimming the profile. People use to ask if I lost weight when I wore those.

I don't know if this will help you. We have new sizes and shapes now and have to keep trying on different styles and designs. These are more like a knit and the Chico's one is different.

patns
05-19-2012, 10:19 PM
Thank you so much PS! I will check those out right now.

Do you realize we have been neck and neck all the way through this journey?The same stats except I just can't get the last 5 pounds off. I am actually only 5'1" if i stand up really straight.

I haven't had much experience with Chico's except one time when I drove down to Montana for a conference. I loved there stuff but was totally confused with their sizes.
I will look up the J.Jill brand now.Thanks again!

patns
05-19-2012, 11:45 PM
Thanks PS, I ordered3 pairs. I really need summer pants.

There is a good sale on (maybe it's always like that?). And it was only $12 for shipping to Canada which is great.

Pat

Maile
05-20-2012, 01:15 PM
Well, I am ending a stressed filled week. Way too much going on at work, and at home. I had one bad night where I seriously was so upset that I thought about turning back to food again, but I told myself that those days of turning to food are gone..It always amazes me how you can think of a million things that you could eat in one second!
I am in my 3 lb range and holding at 125-128. I am waiting for June to arrive so I can put 8 months on my tracker!

I am slowly, one at a time, talking to people at work who choose to make comments about what I eat and don't eat. The way to eat an elephant is one bite at a time. I am very nice but get my point across and find that this usually shuts people up from then on.

I have trouble fitting pants also, and have taken to wearing colored Hume's leggings. very comfortable!

Cap: I agree with you about the treat meal on the free day. One of the best things that you are doing is educating your daughter about the value of eating healthfully and that you don't have to always eat whatever anyone else is eating..no matter the occasion. I was not raised that way.

2ride: I am glad your new area opening up went well. I meant to tell you that I was sorry about your dog being attacked at that function.

5 more days of students.

CassiR: Welcome to maintenance. Enjoy your first free day!

Sarabean: Congratulations on passing your defense and your speech.

Thanks everyone for the articles and information. I learn so much here!

purple sky
05-20-2012, 01:15 PM
Wow, you did? Please let me know how they work out.

With Chico's, my guess is you are a 1, maybe 2.

With J. Jill, try a size down. For example, this time I bought a S pant, much to my surprise. The pants that I wore all the way up to 172 lbs was a L. Yes, they are forgiving. If you ever get to a store, check it out. I was going for the same wide leg last time and the store lady suggested straight. I also like their tops/tees but the fit is different. Better to try if you can.

Now, just recently I tried Soma for bras. Apparently, they are connected to Chico's so they understand comfort better. They have a few specialty sizes.

Yes, I noticed that many in a similar height range end up in a similar weight range. It's fun. We learn so much from each other. I would have never considered specialty sizes for bras. Now, it's like getting a lift.

purple sky
05-20-2012, 01:44 PM
oops

CassiR
05-20-2012, 03:32 PM
So about the spirooli..

AMAZING. I made my own tomato sauce as well and it felt like a serious crime. One bowl of the zucchini noodles with tomato sauce is very filling. YUM!!

I made 3 large zucchini into the noodles and then threw them into boiling water for only a few seconds. They shrink down quite a bit when cooked. Otherwise just one zucchini would probably make 2 servings of raw noodles. The three blanched zucchini's turned into noodles will feed enough for me, DH, and leftovers for work tomorrow. I'm so happy I got this!

Here's the link for the sugar-free, fat-free tomato sauce as well: http://adustyframe.com/2011/03/10/sugar-free-fat-free-spaghetti-sauce/
The sauce was amazing. Very sweet and delicious.

Ishbel
05-21-2012, 10:48 AM
I'm trying to be realistic and I know that I will gain after putting some carbs back into my suppers. I'm up, not by much, pretty sure I have a salt problem as my fingers feel fat lol. However, I've lurked in here off and on and I know some of you have carb levels, calorie levels and a combination of others that you watch.

Can someone tell me how fast they gained their glycogen stores...ie how long did it take to level out. I know it's an ongoing battle...but just curious as to what happened your first week.

jennydoodle
05-21-2012, 01:16 PM
I'm trying to be realistic and I know that I will gain after putting some carbs back into my suppers. I'm up, not by much, pretty sure I have a salt problem as my fingers feel fat lol. However, I've lurked in here off and on and I know some of you have carb levels, calorie levels and a combination of others that you watch.

Can someone tell me how fast they gained their glycogen stores...ie how long did it take to level out. I know it's an ongoing battle...but just curious as to what happened your first week.

For me, it was immediate. I eat a lot of carbs and BAM! Scale goes up. In maintenance, I do mostly P3 except for after a free day or meal and then it is P1. I cannot tolerate too many carbs so P3 is my happy medium.

jennydoodle
05-21-2012, 01:18 PM
I am so excited, my "carb sensitivity" book is going to arrive today! They said it wouldn't even ship until next week, but it is here already. I am so excited to start reading it! We have plans tonight, so I won't actually be able to dig my teeth in until tomorrow.

GoodEatsandWine
05-21-2012, 01:47 PM
So about the spirooli..

AMAZING. I made my own tomato sauce as well and it felt like a serious crime. One bowl of the zucchini noodles with tomato sauce is very filling. YUM!!

I made 3 large zucchini into the noodles and then threw them into boiling water for only a few seconds. They shrink down quite a bit when cooked. Otherwise just one zucchini would probably make 2 servings of raw noodles. The three blanched zucchini's turned into noodles will feed enough for me, DH, and leftovers for work tomorrow. I'm so happy I got this!

Here's the link for the sugar-free, fat-free tomato sauce as well: http://adustyframe.com/2011/03/10/sugar-free-fat-free-spaghetti-sauce/
The sauce was amazing. Very sweet and delicious.

I love it! Looks like I have a new gadget to get :) Thanks for the reveiw and the sauce recipe tip.

GoodEatsandWine
05-21-2012, 03:00 PM
I'm trying to be realistic and I know that I will gain after putting some carbs back into my suppers. I'm up, not by much, pretty sure I have a salt problem as my fingers feel fat lol. However, I've lurked in here off and on and I know some of you have carb levels, calorie levels and a combination of others that you watch.

Can someone tell me how fast they gained their glycogen stores...ie how long did it take to level out. I know it's an ongoing battle...but just curious as to what happened your first week.

I lost 3lbs in P3 (bringing me to 113lbs), so those carbs didn't seem to affect me but when I started P4, I gained 5lbs pretty quickly. I didn't mind too much because that brought me to my goal weight. Now I pretty much stay around 119lbs which I'm more than happy with.

I am so excited, my "carb sensitivity" book is going to arrive today! They said it wouldn't even ship until next week, but it is here already. I am so excited to start reading it! We have plans tonight, so I won't actually be able to dig my teeth in until tomorrow.

It's definitely a good read. I like her style of writing and I like how she doesn't demonize all carbs. This book is more on finding out which carbs you can eat and finding out what your limits are.

purple sky
05-21-2012, 06:55 PM
For me, it was immediate. I eat a lot of carbs and BAM! Scale goes up. In maintenance, I do mostly P3 except for after a free day or meal and then it is P1. I cannot tolerate too many carbs so P3 is my happy medium.

So far I am doing mostly P3. That seems to work. DH is back on P1. So we can eat the same dinners.

patns
05-21-2012, 07:04 PM
I am so excited, my "carb sensitivity" book is going to arrive today! They said it wouldn't even ship until next week, but it is here already. I am so excited to start reading it! We have plans tonight, so I won't actually be able to dig my teeth in until tomorrow.

I love the book but it makes me realize how dependent I have become to the time saving aspect of the little silver packages. Almost as hard as breaking the carb addiction in the first place :dizzy:.

SaraBean
05-21-2012, 07:59 PM
So about the spirooli..

AMAZING. I made my own tomato sauce as well and it felt like a serious crime. One bowl of the zucchini noodles with tomato sauce is very filling. YUM!!

I made 3 large zucchini into the noodles and then threw them into boiling water for only a few seconds. They shrink down quite a bit when cooked. Otherwise just one zucchini would probably make 2 servings of raw noodles. The three blanched zucchini's turned into noodles will feed enough for me, DH, and leftovers for work tomorrow. I'm so happy I got this!

Here's the link for the sugar-free, fat-free tomato sauce as well: http://adustyframe.com/2011/03/10/sugar-free-fat-free-spaghetti-sauce/
The sauce was amazing. Very sweet and delicious.

Yum!!!! Can't wait to try this and to make the sauce!

Ishbel
05-21-2012, 10:41 PM
I lost 3lbs in P3 (bringing me to 113lbs), so those carbs didn't seem to affect me but when I started P4, I gained 5lbs pretty quickly. I didn't mind too much because that brought me to my goal weight. Now I pretty much stay around 119lbs which I'm more than happy.

This is what I am expecting. I started 6 lbs below goal and watching for the 3-5 lbs into phase 4. I guess after a year of this diet it's difficult to see the scale go up. But I do want to be realistic and learn what works for me and I do want to float around 165.

Thanks for the input on the phase 3 days....we'll see how I do. :)

Darralyn
05-21-2012, 10:53 PM
This is what I am expecting. I started 6 lbs below goal and watching for the 3-5 lbs into phase 4. I guess after a year of this diet it's difficult to see the scale go up. But I do want to be realistic and learn what works for me and I do want to float around 165.

Thanks for the input on the phase 3 days....we'll see how I do. :)

You look absolutely amazing!!! What a wonderful job you've done.;)

Maile
05-22-2012, 08:45 AM
I also eat mainly Phase 3 and find that works for me. I also am much happier staying 3 pounds under goal weight so i always have a cushion for going up.

I am waiting for my carb book in the mail. It is taking its sweet time.

I am handling work better these last two days! Drinking lots of tea and sparkling water!!!1

Sewmam
05-22-2012, 09:27 AM
Good morning everybody! I have been trying the idea of splitting up breakfast to half in the morning and half late morning, and I like it! It seems like no matter how much I eat in one sitting, I get woozy a few hours later, and if it isn't time for the next meal, I have a snack. We are allowed snacks, but they can really add up, so this cuts out one snack. So, I've had my oatmeal with my tea first thing, then 2-3 hours later I have the yogurt/berries. With the physical work I've been trying to do, it really hits the spot, feels like a treat yet very much on-plan.

Thanks to Purple or NewEngland- can't remember who posted that idea...

Ishbel
05-22-2012, 12:03 PM
You look absolutely amazing!!! What a wonderful job you've done.;)

Thanks Darralyn :)

What types of exercises do you peeps do? I can't seem to get my heart rate up anymore. Which I expect is because I no longer have 140 lbs to carry around. I've got a lot of videos, I'm going to start yoga again (used to do it consitently and I miss it) and I have plans on starting to run (just have a bum toe that needs to heal)...just curious as to what you all do and how often.

I'm sure this question has been answered as I'm sure it's been asked by previous newbies...sorry for asking you to repeat. I lurked, but not everyday. ;)

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
05-22-2012, 12:38 PM
This is what I am expecting. I started 6 lbs below goal and watching for the 3-5 lbs into phase 4. I guess after a year of this diet it's difficult to see the scale go up. But I do want to be realistic and learn what works for me and I do want to float around 165.

Thanks for the input on the phase 3 days....we'll see how I do. :)

Wow Carla you look amazing. You are doing so great I am proud of you. I mainly walk Red dog for exercise, do some ball exercises but my balance isn't so good. Am going to start the Jillian 6 weeks to 6 pack to see how that does. Good luck to you.

Saturday I gave blood and it was kind of weird. While in the interview room where they take your blood pressure/pulse and temperature I was asked if I was athletic... I laughed and said no.. I then asked why, apparently my pulse was at 49 which she said was what athletes pulses is usually... I did tell her I walked daily. She did asked what diet I lost on and I told her about Ideal Protein and she said good for you, she said she didn't have the willpower and went to Mexico to get her stomach tied... I was kind of shocked as she was a nurse. But thanks to IP I am considered an athlete and I never ever would have thought... Just what would happen if I really did start working out and start running again... Am going to try really hard to do all these things but I am basically lazy so will need all your help to motivate me.

It is raining in Edmonton today, I walked Red before a big downpour and went looking for the carb book... heading to Idigo when it opens, to see if I can get it today so I can shop for food later this week.
Have a great week everyone.

purple sky
05-22-2012, 01:29 PM
So, I had this dream. It was weird but basically we had a guest who ended up staying over. He said something like I'll make you or buy you dinner which I appreciated but I paused because he mentioned pasta or something like that. I tried to comment that we don't eat that but he did not listen. It was as if he knew I could have it. I could not remember if DH was on P1 in the dream but it was odd that I was perplexed sort of saying I don't eat carbs when I could. I remember not making a convincing argument for myself because I was half-lying and half believing what I said.

I don't think I have had a food dream since the early P1 dreams over fast food guilt.

***

My hungry time is during the day and I found that no matter what I ate for breakfast, I was hungry like an hour later. I never ate the full P3 breakfast requirement. It was always too much for me. I remember when I was away, I once used my breakfast voucher to have my yummy pancakes like at 7:30. Work up staving. Two hours later I came down with DH to have my second breakfast. I thought I could just nibble but I ate most of my plate. That day I lasted till lunch. By the time evening came I had to make myself eat something for dinner. I think that is why I struggled with P1. Not enough food during the day and dinner I was forcing it down.

GoodEatsandWine
05-22-2012, 02:31 PM
Posted this on another thread but thought I would post it here as well :)

I found a new favorite for my fat meal. The taste is so pleasing but beware, it is very filling!! That's a good thing but if you try to eat a normal serving size you're likely to bust! I got these ideas from that website I mentioned before - http://mariahealth.blogspot.com/

Out of the possibilities she's posted, I tried her healthy grilled cheese-tomato style (slightly altered version below):
(1 serving)
2 thick slices of a large tomato (this will be the 'bread')
3 tbsp almond meal/flour
grated parmigiano reggiano (approx. 1.5 tbsp)
1 egg white
seasonings (I used salt, pepper, garlic powder, oregano)
1 slice of cheddar, goat or other cheese (approx. 1oz)
coconut oil, macadamia nut oil, olive oil or butter for frying

While oil is heating in a pan on medium heat, combine almond meal/flour, parmigiano reggiano and seasonings on a salad plate and put the egg white on another salad plate. Dip the tomato slices in the egg and then the dry mixture. Make sure it is well coated (I patted the dry ingredients onto the tomato slices). Then grill your tomato for about 3-5 minutes. Flip to other side and top the cooked side with the cheddar (or other cheese) slice. You're suppose to then make a sandwich with the two slices but I left them open-faced and topped both sides with cheese slices using thinner slices.

OMG, this was so good! With your meal, in my case, my giant salad with protein (chicken, beef, or whatever) it was very filling! I calc'd out the nutrition value and got the approximately the following for the grilled cheese tomato: Calories 225, carb 2.25g, protein 15g, fat 16g

My clinic's guidelines for the fat meal is to keep the fat around 10-20g; done! I've had this twice now, once with cheddar cheese and last night with goat cheese. Yum! BTW, since I typically don't have a carb meal I have this for lunch or dinner.

Her other options for this (eggwhite then almond/cheese coating) is to make 'fries' using portobello mushrooms, eggplant or turnips. Then they are baked:
portobello mushroom fries - baked at 350 degrees for 15 minutes;
eggplant fries - baked at 400 degrees for 15 minutes;
turnip fries - baked at 425 degrees for 20 minutes;

purple sky
05-22-2012, 03:49 PM
Oh, this looks so good, GoodEatsandWine.

On of my favorite types of grilled cheese samiches used to have cheese, tomato and basil inside.

Love her web site. Thank you for sharing.

capricious
05-22-2012, 04:06 PM
My best fiend's fiance- a couple that I introduced- passed away from cancer last week at age 34. My friend requested that I stay with her in Calgary which is three hours away. Her food request after making funeral arrangements all day and crying with his family the whole night before was for 'something that would make her happy'. 'What is it?' I asked,'I'll bring it'. 'Fish & Chips' she says. I got her the traditional breaded style with fries. I got grilled with veggies and rice I didn't eat. The more we talked and were together the more I too wanted to turn to food for comfort. The next day when we went for dim sum and I won't off plan and stayed off plan for the next three days. It is amazing to me how easy it is to use food to comfort and eat he emotions rather than feel them. Came home the day before yesterday. Yesterday I went back on Phase 1. I needed to detox. I will resume the CSP when I get back from the funeral after this weekend. Pants you are very right. The silver packets are much more convenient. And mobile.
Maile- thank you for being such a good role model. It gives strength and hope. Dealing with one's emotions vs. eating them is such a difficult lesson to learn. And while it bothers me that I still have to learn this the hard way every now and again, it is a positive to me that I keep climbing back on the proverbial OP horse.

jennydoodle
05-22-2012, 05:27 PM
My best fiend's fiance- a couple that I introduced- passed away from cancer last week at age 34. My friend requested that I stay with her in Calgary which is three hours away. Her food request after making funeral arrangements all day and crying with his family the whole night before was for 'something that would make her happy'. 'What is it?' I asked,'I'll bring it'. 'Fish & Chips' she says. I got her the traditional breaded style with fries. I got grilled with veggies and rice I didn't eat. The more we talked and were together the more I too wanted to turn to food for comfort. The next day when we went for dim sum and I won't off plan and stayed off plan for the next three days. It is amazing to me how easy it is to use food to comfort and eat he emotions rather than feel them. Came home the day before yesterday. Yesterday I went back on Phase 1. I needed to detox. I will resume the CSP when I get back from the funeral after this weekend. Pants you are very right. The silver packets are much more convenient. And mobile.
Maile- thank you for being such a good role model. It gives strength and hope. Dealing with one's emotions vs. eating them is such a difficult lesson to learn. And while it bothers me that I still have to learn this the hard way every now and again, it is a positive to me that I keep climbing back on the proverbial OP horse.

Sorry to hear about your friend. The reason I actually popped on here was because I wanted to ask you about how CSP was going. I got my book and started reading it. I already know I am sensitive to grains, but it will be interesting to see if legumes and starchy veggies fall into that catagory too.

Packets are very convienent. I have a bunch that I am planning on using up and then trying to transition to all real food.

paulimapi
05-22-2012, 08:10 PM
I was wondering, about how many grams of carbs a day do you guys eat now that you're maintaning? On a normal, non-cheat day?

patns
05-23-2012, 01:53 AM
Sorry to hear about your friend. The reason I actually popped on here was because I wanted to ask you about how CSP was going. I got my book and started reading it. I already know I am sensitive to grains, but it will be interesting to see if legumes and starchy veggies fall into that catagory too.

Packets are very convienent. I have a bunch that I am planning on using up and then trying to transition to all real food.

So sorry to hear about your friend Cap. It is so sad to lose someone so young when he had so much to look forward to.
Have a safe trip for the funeral.

Jenny, I had posted yesterday about hating to give up the convenience of the packets.

I also have a bunch of IP products that I will use up and then am really trying to transition to real food too.

I actually did follow week one of CSP quite well last week and was down a half pound at the end. So that was excellent.

This week I didn't get time to do a Costco run for the chicken etc I need so an using up IP products for a bit.

I was more than pleased that I could handle a moderate amount of fruit.
Like you I know I can't handle wheat and other starchy grains. The next step will be interesting with the starcy veggies but so far so good.

Goodeats, that tomato recipe sounds excellent. I'll have to remeber to buy big tomatoes and try it.

Pat

patns
05-23-2012, 01:55 AM
I was wondering, about how many grams of carbs a day do you guys eat now that you're maintaining? On a normal, non-cheat day?

Everyone is different and most posters are experiencing to discover what works well for their particular metabolisms. If is best to add a bit back at a time and see what happens.

Sewmam
05-23-2012, 08:08 AM
Cap: I'm so sorry about your friend. I too find that the triggers are still there, and all we can do is deal with it the best we can. At least now, we can take a breath to recognize it and hopefully change the pattern in the future...

that tomato recipe sounds delicious!

What is this CSP plan you all are talking about?

jennydoodle
05-23-2012, 08:42 AM
patns- I too am going to try CSP. I need to actually go purchase some fruit though :) I really want to transition to real food and get away from the packets. I just got a bunch from Nashua not too long ago, so I will try to use them up as best as possible. I probably won't start CSP until next week so I can get fruit AND use as many packets up as I can.

paulimapi- I find 50-90 to be my magic #. I do not tolerate carbs well at all. Especially wheat / flour / grains.

New Englander
05-23-2012, 10:44 AM
Hi everyone, Well, my first month of P4 is done and I stayed within 3 pounds of goal... I have not done well at all with my cheat day...each one was made into two full days, plus I've splurged on non-cheat days with chocolate. Finally...ALL chocolate is out of the house...just finished my last sleeve of Girl Scout Thin Mints...I'm lucky to be same size and only 3 #s over...I just need to get this eating seriously back on track...

Well, I'm gonna read through the thread to catch up on everyone. So glad to have a place to confess... :)

New Englander
05-23-2012, 10:46 AM
My best fiend's fiance- a couple that I introduced- passed away from cancer last week at age 34. My friend requested that I stay with her in Calgary which is three hours away. Her food request after making funeral arrangements all day and crying with his family the whole night before was for 'something that would make her happy'. 'What is it?' I asked,'I'll bring it'. 'Fish & Chips' she says. I got her the traditional breaded style with fries. I got grilled with veggies and rice I didn't eat. The more we talked and were together the more I too wanted to turn to food for comfort. The next day when we went for dim sum and I won't off plan and stayed off plan for the next three days. It is amazing to me how easy it is to use food to comfort and eat he emotions rather than feel them. Came home the day before yesterday. Yesterday I went back on Phase 1. I needed to detox. I will resume the CSP when I get back from the funeral after this weekend. Pants you are very right. The silver packets are much more convenient. And mobile.
Maile- thank you for being such a good role model. It gives strength and hope. Dealing with one's emotions vs. eating them is such a difficult lesson to learn. And while it bothers me that I still have to learn this the hard way every now and again, it is a positive to me that I keep climbing back on the proverbial OP horse.
Oh Cap I so incredibly sorry. Such a young age.. :( Thinking of you...

Ishbel
05-23-2012, 10:47 AM
Thanks for your responses on excersise.

2Ride My mom runs marathons – she says she finishes them! I’m not sure I'm there yet just want to run but she gave me the book "learning to run" that is quite interesting, I’ve lent it out to a few experienced runners I know (with great responses back). Lots of schedules for all different types of runners, beginners to marathoners.

I also have a heart rate monitor that I've always used (even 140 lbs heavier) to help me challenge my heart during cardio (used to try to exercise by my heart rate specifically instead of how I feel as I tend to push it too hard). I'm only going to have certain days that are "heavy exercise" as that's what my schedule will allow. Other days will be a brisk/moderate walk/video in the basement. Tomorrow I'm jumping on the DEATH MILL (it's a step mill that I used to love to hate hence the name) to see how I respond to that, I'm certain I can challenge my heart with THAT. Once the bum toe is healed I'm going to use the schedule in the book to get my running capabilities in order (if I can run…don’t know how the knees will respond).

Come with me? :) Maybe we can schedule a 5-10km run sometime in Calgary or something?

Jennydoodle your carb intake 50-90 includes your entire daily diet for the day including veggies?

Cap so sorry :hug:

jennydoodle
05-23-2012, 11:12 AM
Jennydoodle your carb intake 50-90 includes your entire daily diet for the day including veggies?

No, I do not count veggies. 50-90 is above and beyond all of my typical veggies.

Pxlkitty4
05-23-2012, 06:31 PM
Hi everyone. I've been away from the boards for a while. We bought a camper and so had to drive up to PA to pick it up. We've been inundated with tasks associated with that, and then I decided to take up piano lessons (which I took as a child). I have to say, I love them!! It's so different from what I do at work all day (writing, math, thinking)... But it does feel incredibly indulgent to sit in a room with a piano teacher for 30 minutes and just "play". That, and pilates (still!) three times each week plus a 4-yr old, full time job, etc... I'm a busy girl. I'm still about 5lbs over goal. I eat a pretty standard menu everyday, keep the carbs low. I don't recall the last time I had bread. I've had a few bars/packets/drinks here and there, but for the most part, I'm back to real food. My carb of choice at dinner is thin corn tortillas. I love tacos/tostadas and three of those have 80 calories and 16gms carbs, and I'm ok with that.

My best fiend's fiance- a couple that I introduced- passed away from cancer last week at age 34. My friend requested that I stay with her in Calgary which is three hours away. Her food request after making funeral arrangements all day and crying with his family the whole night before was for 'something that would make her happy'. 'What is it?' I asked,'I'll bring it'. 'Fish & Chips' she says. I got her the traditional breaded style with fries. I got grilled with veggies and rice I didn't eat. The more we talked and were together the more I too wanted to turn to food for comfort. The next day when we went for dim sum and I won't off plan and stayed off plan for the next three days. It is amazing to me how easy it is to use food to comfort and eat he emotions rather than feel them. Came home the day before yesterday. Yesterday I went back on Phase 1. I needed to detox. I will resume the CSP when I get back from the funeral after this weekend. Pants you are very right. The silver packets are much more convenient. And mobile.
Maile- thank you for being such a good role model. It gives strength and hope. Dealing with one's emotions vs. eating them is such a difficult lesson to learn. And while it bothers me that I still have to learn this the hard way every now and again, it is a positive to me that I keep climbing back on the proverbial OP horse.

Cap -- I am SO sorry to hear this news. What a good reminder, though, of how we should cherish each day and make sure that we live our lives to the fullest.

I am glad that you retreated to the comfort of Phase 1 for your detox after your comfort food experience. We are all still on this journey, but slowly we make better choices. Even when we trip up, we only trip up a few pounds instead of 40 or 50...

well, huge storm rolling in here. Time to post before the power goes out!

purple sky
05-23-2012, 08:33 PM
HBO is airing a series called Weight of the Nation. Very interesting.

It is amazing to me how easy it is to use food to comfort and eat he emotions rather than feel them. Came home the day before yesterday. Yesterday I went back on Phase 1. I needed to detox. I will resume the CSP when I get back from the funeral after this weekend. Pants you are very right. The silver packets are much more convenient. And mobile.

capricious, I am sorry to hear about your friend. But, I am glad to see how you are responding to it. Food is such a huge part of ourr lives, associated with great joys and great sorrow. Retraining is tricky.


I also have a bunch of IP products that I will use up and then am really trying to transition to real food too.

I actually did follow week one of CSP quite well last week and was down a half pound at the end. So that was excellent.

This week I didn't get time to do a Costco run for the chicken etc I need so an using up IP products for a bit.

I was more than pleased that I could handle a moderate amount of fruit.
Like you I know I can't handle wheat and other starchy grains. The next step will be interesting with the starcy veggies but so far so good.


I need to get off the bars.
Now, I am truly intrigued by this CSP deal. Thinking of ordering The Homorne Diet from Amazon.

Hi everyone, Well, my first month of P4 is done and I stayed within 3 pounds of goal... I have not done well at all with my cheat day...each one was made into two full days, plus I've splurged on non-cheat days with chocolate. Finally...ALL chocolate is out of the house...just finished my last sleeve of Girl Scout Thin Mints...I'm lucky to be same size and only 3 #s over...I just need to get this eating seriously back on track...


Great job, New Englander, on your first month. Oh Thin Mints...they would be my downfall. I have to have half a sleeve at a time. This is a trickly balancing act, finding out what works for us and what we can and can't have. We are all so different.

bigpassport
05-24-2012, 03:47 AM
The next day when we went for dim sum and I won't off plan and stayed off plan for the next three days. It is amazing to me how easy it is to use food to comfort and eat he emotions rather than feel them.

So sorry for your loss. 34 is young!! I can identify with going off plan one day and staying off plan for three days and your emotioanl eating. I had my birthday earlier this month (3 free days) then a weekend trip to my hometown (another 3 free days) and life has been super stressful since then. It is HARD getting back on track. Fun-->desire to eat. Stress-->deisre to eat. I personally think it's easier in weight loss mode because I just turn off the eating switch. In maintenance mode, I know it should be off, but it doesn't have to be off, I'll be ok if I get back on track tomorrow, etc. I still can't find the Kindle version of CSP in the US, but as soon as I can I'm on board.

Hi everyone, Well, my first month of P4 is done and I stayed within 3 pounds of goal... I have not done well at all with my cheat day...each one was made into two full days, plus I've splurged on non-cheat days with chocolate. Finally...ALL chocolate is out of the house...just finished my last sleeve of Girl Scout Thin Mints...I'm lucky to be same size and only 3 #s over...I just need to get this eating seriously back on track...

You're doing great!!

then I decided to take up piano lessons (which I took as a child). I have to say, I love them!! It's so different from what I do at work all day (writing, math, thinking)... But it does feel incredibly indulgent to sit in a room with a piano teacher for 30 minutes and just "play". That, and pilates (still!) three times each week plus a 4-yr old, full time job, etc... I'm a busy girl.

FUN! I hope to take piano lessons one day too. Maybe when my 3 year old starts taking them?

I've been doing great during the day, but then snacking sort of uncontrollably at night. Either it needs to stop and I need to discipline my weight down a few pound, or I need to just start P1 again after life settles down a little. I know the former is the better way to go. I can't believe after a year of IP, I'm still learning about myself and my relationship to food.

Ishbel
05-24-2012, 11:05 AM
Another question I'm sure has been answered at various times so again sorry for being the next newbie to ask AH-gain!

What are you using for a non IP food Phase 1 day to replace your packets? Egg whites would be a good choice?? Deli meats (not the processed ones)...??

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
05-24-2012, 11:44 AM
Thanks for your responses on excersise.

2Ride My mom runs marathons Ė she says she finishes them! Iím not sure I'm there yet just want to run but she gave me the book "learning to run" that is quite interesting, Iíve lent it out to a few experienced runners I know (with great responses back). Lots of schedules for all different types of runners, beginners to marathoners.

I also have a heart rate monitor that I've always used (even 140 lbs heavier) to help me challenge my heart during cardio (used to try to exercise by my heart rate specifically instead of how I feel as I tend to push it too hard). I'm only going to have certain days that are "heavy exercise" as that's what my schedule will allow. Other days will be a brisk/moderate walk/video in the basement. Tomorrow I'm jumping on the DEATH MILL (it's a step mill that I used to love to hate hence the name) to see how I respond to that, I'm certain I can challenge my heart with THAT. Once the bum toe is healed I'm going to use the schedule in the book to get my running capabilities in order (if I can runÖdonít know how the knees will respond).

Come with me? :) Maybe we can schedule a 5-10km run sometime in Calgary or something?

Jennydoodle your carb intake 50-90 includes your entire daily diet for the day including veggies?

Cap so sorry :hug: I would love to do that, I have ran a 5 k weighing way more than now so I am sure I can do it. I am excited.

Caps I am sorry to hear about your loss, it is so sad. Your friend is very lucky to have you.

Okay so Chapters here in Edmonton has the CSP books, it is $32.00 in store. So if you go to Chapters online it is only $20.00 and you can have it shipped to the store for free... now it takes a week longer than if you have it shipped to your house. So I called the store and asked why they can't give the same deal of $20.00 the poor guy said because they don't want you to shop in the stores but only online. Doesn't make sense but... I ordered it on line should be here by tomorrow... can't wait. I really believe I am carb sensitive but to what I am not sure as I rarely eat bread anymore, but still seem to gain.

Well ladies it has been an interesting week, my friend is going through a really rough time with her two dogs so to make a long story short I may be fostering one of them for a while, or maybe forever. She is just devastated about the whole thing. Her dogs have been fighting and she has two small kids so she doesn't want anyone to get hurt. Now for the test, both our dogs are very toy possessive. we will do a trial weekend and then see how it goes. Tonight we are meeting for a walk and then play time in my backyard. Keep your fingers cross that red gets along with another red dog... am a little nervous but it is the unknown that I am scared of. and to top all this off... I realized that my furnace isn't working so now have to call that in.

Have a great day everyone. Rain has stopped....:D:hug:

darbs7
05-24-2012, 04:01 PM
Hey ladies checking in...doing well...finding that balance. Did my first 5K ever the other day with some of my students....really uplifting.

HOpe everyone is well.

So sorry about your friend (Cap)...34 is tragically young.

I tolerate about 50-80 carbs a day also....

Monday-Friday...

breakfast...2 eggs or greek (plain) yogurt with berries

lunch....salad with chicken and yogurt (50 calorie) dressing...low carb (3)

dinner....meat and veggie with evoo

snacks...nuts and dark chocolate....ice cream 1/2 cup 2X a week

Saturday....2 eggs breakfast, salad lunch....then martinis and apps for dinner

Sunday...like a phase 4 day.

So on Saturday I pay for those carbs with cramps and such.

purple sky
05-24-2012, 05:01 PM
Another question I'm sure has been answered at various times so again sorry for being the next newbie to ask AH-gain!

What are you using for a non IP food Phase 1 day to replace your packets? Egg whites would be a good choice?? Deli meats (not the processed ones)...??

I think people use egg whites.

Maile
05-25-2012, 07:56 AM
Ishbel: You could either use egg whites or egg beaters for a Phase 1. I have even had 2 poached eggs. Also for exercise, I do the treadmill or eliptical and lift weights. I want to do yoga also.
I don't count carbs, just eat low carb.


Cap: I am so sorry to hear about your friend. You are wise to do a p1 to detox, but then wait until after the funeral to get going again. That is so sad and such high stress. Don't worry. You can always work off any pounds later. Food is still a form of comfort. especially under high high stress. When I have a craving, I drink lots of hot herbal tea..That is still finding comfort in food.
Sewmam: I like your picture.You must be a musician.

New Englander: Congrats on your maintenance.It is going well!

Darbs: You are doing so well! I am glad it is working for you. I like a martini now and then.

2ride: How is Red dog doing with the new dog? That is too bad about your friend having trouble with her two dogs.

Well I am surrounded by boxes. I have to move out of my room into another one. I feel unsettled and wish I did not have to deal with this as well as with the end of the year activities.
I am staying in my range, but definitely feel stressed..

Determinedat47
05-25-2012, 12:32 PM
Cap: I'm so sorry about your friend. I too find that the triggers are still there, and all we can do is deal with it the best we can. At least now, we can take a breath to recognize it and hopefully change the pattern in the future...

that tomato recipe sounds delicious!

What is this CSP plan you all are talking about?

CSP is Carb Sensitive Program-yet one more low carb plan and another nutritionist making money on what so many others have proven. You can google it and get an overview and testimonials from many who have followed it. Explains why some carbs are ok for some people but not others-even the healthy ones. Basically encourages you to experiment and see what works for you- just like we do in phase 4. Nothing earth shattering in my opinion.:smug:

patns
05-25-2012, 01:18 PM
CSP is Carb Sensitive Program-yet one more low carb plan and another nutritionist making money on what so many others have proven. You can google it and get an overview and testimonials from many who have followed it. Explains why some carbs are ok for some people but not others-even the healthy ones. Basically encourages you to experiment and see what works for you- just like we do in phase 4. Nothing earth shattering in my opinion.:smug:

True the CSP book is just like phase 4. But I find it much less confusing and clearly explained.

Pat

jennydoodle
05-25-2012, 01:26 PM
True the CSP book is just like phase 4. But I find it much less confusing and clearly explained.

Pat

I agree. Plus, I KNOW how grains affect me, but never took the time to single out fruit or legumes or other carbs (rice, quinoa, starchy veggies) to see if they affect me negatively. That is why I want to try the phases so I can compile MY list of eat do's and don't's.

patns
05-25-2012, 02:02 PM
I agree. Plus, I KNOW how grains affect me, but never took the time to single out fruit or legumes or other carbs (rice, quinoa, starchy veggies) to see if they affect me negatively. That is why I want to try the phases so I can compile MY list of eat do's and don't's.

What I found hard on IPs phase 4 is the combinations of fats carbs etc at different meals. With CPS I see what can be eaten in a day and can arrange it according to my own preferences. I know I can't handle most grains and dairy so don't want to cut out any other things if it is not necessary.

Right Jenny, it is easier to make own own personal list of dos and don'ts. I already have a mental list of don't and don't want any thing on there that doesn't really need to be.

Pat

purple sky
05-25-2012, 02:56 PM
True the CSP book is just like phase 4. But I find it much less confusing and clearly explained.

Pat

And that's important. Really, important. That book is not available in the states yet but I did download The Hormone Diet on my Kindle. I was just talking with a friend about food issues and sensitivities. And we all have so many and need to experiment. Unfortunately when it comes to health it's not one size fits all.

Last year I lost weight and I had no idea how. In retrospect it was mostly stress. But, I believe there was a connection between my morning mango and weight loss. When I saw the same buttery manoges in the stores a month or so ago I wanted to try them. They are seasonal, not like the reddish green ones we see often. Those don't have the same effect. It was the small yellow ones. I would eat one or two every morning. They were not stingy so I did not need floss and I was just walking around eating off the seed. I think sometimes I would follow later with my breakfast smoothie but not always. Now, here's the other weird thing, some mornings I had corn. Yes, corn on the cob. Part of this was because I was staying with family and this was something a relative did and encouraged me to try. Since I did not want to waste the food I tried and it was good. Similar to the mango both were very much in season this time of year. I'll tell you this. There was a direct correlation between bathroom time and those mangoes. Sometimes I had them in the evening. All I know that over a month I lost weight without doing anything.

There are no rules out that I know of that says have a super sweet fruit alone in the morning and I have never heard of corn on the cob for breakfast. So many discourage corn for different reasons. But, that combined with stress and constantly being on the move worked. I can say when I returned home, so did the weight.

I bet there are going to be foods that every rule in the books says to stay away from and some of us will do beautifully with them. And there will be other 'good for you foods' that wreck havoc on our systems. I wish there was a blood test that spits out a list of foods to avoid and foods to limit.

I felt, all through this diet, that there was not enough fat for me. So things seemed better once I upped my oil intake and ate fattier meats. Sticking to lean meats and the required oil was just too restrictive for me. It's part of the reason why I chose full fat yogurt. It was just not for taste. I drank almond milk. Next time I will try half and half while on P1. I have a feeling it won't be an issue. Brussels Sprouts, yes. Extra fat, no. But, that's just me.

Determinedat47
05-25-2012, 07:17 PM
Instead of packets, for my phase 1, I use half and half in coffee. Love it.got to the point where I cannot stand the vanilla rtd anymore- od'ed on it I think. Glad everyone is finding the resources and routines that work for each individual. For me, almost all carbohydrate rich foods- grains- fruits- you name it, trigger veracious cravings for more and more and more carbs.

paulimapi
05-26-2012, 01:09 AM
Guys, for those of you on Phase 4, I found an amazing recipe for a very low carb peanut butter ice cream sundae! Yum :) It's only 5.2g of net carbs and the chocolate sauce has 1g net carbs!

Here you go: http://www.alldayidreamaboutfood.com/2012/05/peanut-butter-ice-cream-sundaes-low.html

:)

Maile
05-26-2012, 10:12 AM
Paulimapi: Thanks for posting that recipe. It does look luscious. It always amazes me that I love love peanut butter and never get tired of it.
I made a tofu icecream but was not too excited about it!

Spent the day moving boxes from room to room. I probably will work this weekend as I can't stand the mess I will face on Monday!

Momto2cs
05-26-2012, 11:04 AM
Hi all
I am back from a carb loaded week in London! It is very hard to find quick "take away" low carb food while traveling! Eventually I just gave in and grabbed a sandwich while site seeing like everyone else!
I am surprised to only be up a couple of pounds. My legs are very swollen from the long flight home last night.that is the one side effect of carbs I hate the most-the water retention is brutal.

I hope to get back to phase 1 today...although my dh does not appear to have visited a grocery store since I left, so not much choice here! Today may be more lie a higher fat phase 2 day as I try to carb detox!

patns
05-26-2012, 01:08 PM
Hi all
I am back from a carb loaded week in London! It is very hard to find quick "take away" low carb food while traveling! Eventually I just gave in and grabbed a sandwich while site seeing like everyone else!
I am surprised to only be up a couple of pounds. My legs are very swollen from the long flight home last night.that is the one side effect of carbs I hate the most-the water retention is brutal.

I hope to get back to phase 1 today...although my dh does not appear to have visited a grocery store since I left, so not much choice here! Today may be more lie a higher fat phase 2 day as I try to carb detox!


Glad to hear from you. I was wondering how your trip was going, sounds like fun. And so good to be up just a couple of pounds after being away. It is all that muscle you have been building up.

My mom is from Northern England and on my dad's side we are pure Canadian Scots. I had read one time that many people whose background is from nornthern England and the border area are obese although my mom isn't. I thought it was likely genetic due to the weather etc. But then I went into a food section of Marks and Spencers when they had them in Canada.
Holy fat and carbs Batman!!!
When I watch Coronation Street everyone seems to be going to the pup or the chippy for every meal.

So if you survived eating out as a tourist in England without major damage you will do fine any place I think.

Pat

Momto2cs
05-26-2012, 03:02 PM
There was definitely lots of walking in London, and it was sweltering! 28 c every day. I sweated so much!
Finding a green vegetable that wasn't mushy peas was difficult, even at expensive restaurants. I don't know how everyone isn't fat. Obviously they must eat at home more! We tried to, and I had an ip packet at breakfast every day, but things take do long to get to that we usually had to eat out as my dd, who is 7, would suddenly get hungry!
We are also very canadian scot! It amazes me that until last week I hadn't had a potato for a year!

purple sky
05-26-2012, 05:38 PM
Mushy peas. :p I don't even like regular peas.

I think my waist finally came down below 29. It has been hovering around 29" or 30" for a long, long time. But, my weight might be going up. I hope that is just TOM. I feel heavy.

linfin
05-26-2012, 07:28 PM
This is my first day on 3 chicks with IP. I am rapidly closing in on phase 2, but am already anxious about maintaining my weight loss. I have so much trouble with my carb cravings; I truly feel addicted to them. I started reading your posts late this morning, and am still sitting heard processing your experiences and advice. I was intrigued by the CSP book I saw referenced so many times. I will be ordering that asap. I am already more hopeful of being successful with so many of you to lead the way.

Maile
05-28-2012, 09:31 AM
There was definitely lots of walking in London, and it was sweltering! 28 c every day. I sweated so much!
Finding a green vegetable that wasn't mushy peas was difficult, even at expensive restaurants. I don't know how everyone isn't fat. Obviously they must eat at home more! We tried to, and I had an ip packet at breakfast every day, but things take do long to get to that we usually had to eat out as my dd, who is 7, would suddenly get hungry!
We are also very canadian scot! It amazes me that until last week I hadn't had a potato for a year!
I found the same when I went to England..hard to find green vegetables...but those fish and chips were excellent. I am glad things went well for you and you had a good time. I am leaving for a week trip next Saturday and think I will find the same thing as your when I return..the fridge will be empty as my dh will be doing orders to go.
Hope you feel better with your carb detox.

Maile
05-28-2012, 09:32 AM
Mushy peas. :p I don't even like regular peas.

I think my waist finally came down below 29. It has been hovering around 29" or 30" for a long, long time. But, my weight might be going up. I hope that is just TOM. I feel heavy.
That is exciting about your waist being below 29 inches! It is hard when you feel heavy..I often feel that way if I am too full..TOM does not help.

Maile
05-28-2012, 09:35 AM
This is my first day on 3 chicks with IP. I am rapidly closing in on phase 2, but am already anxious about maintaining my weight loss. I have so much trouble with my carb cravings; I truly feel addicted to them. I started reading your posts late this morning, and am still sitting heard processing your experiences and advice. I was intrigued by the CSP book I saw referenced so many times. I will be ordering that asap. I am already more hopeful of being successful with so many of you to lead the way.
I am in my 8th month of maintenance..and truly was a carb addict. You honestly feel better and will have better control after doing IP. Low carb eating has helped me remain stable..
Good luck on Phase 1.

Ishbel
05-28-2012, 11:06 AM
SO! I made sure I had 7 days of maintenance before I had a free day just to see what my body would complain about, I had bread/pasta/rice and managed to fluctuate within 3 lbs for those 7 days.

THEN! I had my first free day and now know what you all mean by just having a nice 'free meal' LOL. It was nice to try things I haven't tasted in over a year but I did feel like crap and it did show on the scale a day after my one day of Phase 1. So I'm doing two days of Phase 1 this week and will keep it to a 'free meal'. I'm ok with that due to the fact that I felt like crap. AND I KNOW KNOW that you all had recommended it, but hey, had to learn on my own right? :D I think it was someone on here that said "maintenance is play, review, rewind, play"...:)

What I like is that I had my free day and bam, I was done...I like that I learned "ok, it's finished, fix it". I sincerely hope that my ability to play the mental game is still strong 8-24 months into maintenance.

Will it come down more after a Phase 1 day? Can't see how it would but thought I would ask.

purple sky
05-28-2012, 04:45 PM
THEN! I had my first free day and now know what you all mean by just having a nice 'free meal' LOL. It was nice to try things I haven't tasted in over a year but I did feel like crap and it did show on the scale a day after my one day of Phase 1. So I'm doing two days of Phase 1 this week and will keep it to a 'free meal'. I'm ok with that due to the fact that I felt like crap. AND I KNOW KNOW that you all had recommended it, but hey, had to learn on my own right? :D I think it was someone on here that said "maintenance is play, review, rewind, play"...:)
.

I was smiling the whole time I read this. I am sort of like the princess and the pea. Super sensitive. Some things are not as good as you remember. But, some are quite yummy. Keep trying and experimenting. Perhaps next time you will just want to try one or two new things. That will also help you to know what you are sensitive to. Your body is pretty clean now. It's used to eating simple clean foods. The concept of the free day never made sense to me because it seemed like it would be taking your body through a roller coaster every week. But, it is design to keep people from feeling too deprived.

Some use it for booze. That day they may drink a whole bottle of wine. It's out of their system. They are good to go for the next week. I wonder if finding one item you think you might really enjoy for your free day might not be a bad idea.

purple sky
05-28-2012, 05:01 PM
That is exciting about your waist being below 29 inches! It is hard when you feel heavy..I often feel that way if I am too full..TOM does not help.

Ah, I may have typed too soon. So, we'll see next week. Weight might be getting back to the normal range.

I am looking into some alternate sources of protein. I need to wean myself off bars and things and I seem to have some issues with some of the things in them. Maybe soy, or whey or some sweeteners. I am looking at pea proteins now. Wish they came in a bar but I am finding some with all kinds of good stuff in there. I stopped taking my supplements long ago so I need to get some of that back into my system.

Finding products with labels I can read is tricky.

But, I am thankful for this diet. Old me used to take my pea protein and mix it with a banana and rice milk. Never lost weight. Seemed to put it on. I thought I was being healthy but I was seriously carb loading so this time around I am really studying the labels. That was over 400 calories just on a morning smoothie alone and I was hungry after 2 hours.

Momto2cs
05-28-2012, 05:20 PM
It kills me to see people mixing milk and fruit into their protein. They wonder why they don't lose....so much extra sugar!

2 eggs keep me going for a long time.

darbs7
05-28-2012, 07:47 PM
Rough weekend ladies....started with subs on Friday night and kept going until lunchtime today. Going for 10 phase 2ish type days in a row....hopefully I undo the Memorial Day weekend damage.

Momto2cs
05-28-2012, 10:43 PM
If only someone made convenient low carb food!

I can relate! My return to phase 1 was delayed until today but sun, booze and burgers! Life is good!

I have a fancy dress dinner on Saturday, so that should keep me honest this week!

Ishbel
05-28-2012, 11:52 PM
I was smiling the whole time I read this. I am sort of like the princess and the pea. Super sensitive. Some things are not as good as you remember. But, some are quite yummy. Keep trying and experimenting. Perhaps next time you will just want to try one or two new things. That will also help you to know what you are sensitive to. Your body is pretty clean now. It's used to eating simple clean foods. The concept of the free day never made sense to me because it seemed like it would be taking your body through a roller coaster every week. But, it is design to keep people from feeling too deprived.

Some use it for booze. That day they may drink a whole bottle of wine. It's out of their system. They are good to go for the next week. I wonder if finding one item you think you might really enjoy for your free day might not be a bad idea.

You're right, I took it slow for 7 days and enjoyed my day...laughed about it, only because I knew how to fix it. I already have plans for next Saturday which only involve some pasta and cheese together. I'm ok with no booze actually, I'm not a booze hound, never missed it. I'm allergic to red wine actually because of the sulfates and never really liked white, nor do I like beer. So if I'm not planning on being at a party I can plan my meals on just that, meals.

:) thanks for responding to me! :)

purple sky
05-29-2012, 03:07 PM
It kills me to see people mixing milk and fruit into their protein. They wonder why they don't lose....so much extra sugar!

2 eggs keep me going for a long time.

It's part of the common wisdom. I have been actively looking at labels for bars and I had no idea that so many of them were so carb heavy and worse, just a hair away from a candy bar. You can grab a snickers for a fraction of the cost and it has nuts in it.

All the supplements, powders etc. that I have taken always recommended taking it with a glass of juice or milk or one of these alternative milks (soy, rice, almond, oat, hemp, etc.) I never knew to look at a label for carbs or different names for sugar anything like that.

We are trained or conventional wisdom teaches us that if it is natural, it is good. This can become tricky. I used to choose orange juice instead of coffee sometimes because I thought it was a healthier pick me up in the morning. Maybe it was but it was nice dose of sugar in addition to whatever I was eating.

This is also tricky to me, the label reading, trying to follow new rules and guidelines, staring at restaurant menus for what feels like hours to make the best choices. Salad have more calories and fat than burgers.

And everyone has their own philosophy about foods. Don't eat that. Don't eat that. Don't eat this with this. Don't use this kid of pan. Cook food. Don't cook food. Don't drink your nutrition. It just goes on and on.

And then we find out that each one of us is different and a rule that works well for one person is awful for another.

capricious
05-29-2012, 04:57 PM
It's part of the common wisdom. I have been actively looking at labels for bars and I had no idea that so many of them were so carb heavy and worse, just a hair away from a candy bar. You can grab a snickers for a fraction of the cost and it has nuts in it.

All the supplements, powders etc. that I have taken always recommended taking it with a glass of juice or milk or one of these alternative milks (soy, rice, almond, oat, hemp, etc.) I never knew to look at a label for carbs or different names for sugar anything like that.

We are trained or conventional wisdom teaches us that if it is natural, it is good. This can become tricky. I used to choose orange juice instead of coffee sometimes because I thought it was a healthier pick me up in the morning. Maybe it was but it was nice dose of sugar in addition to whatever I was eating.

This is also tricky to me, the label reading, trying to follow new rules and guidelines, staring at restaurant menus for what feels like hours to make the best choices. Salad have more calories and fat than burgers.

And everyone has their own philosophy about foods. Don't eat that. Don't eat that. Don't eat this with this. Don't use this kid of pan. Cook food. Don't cook food. Don't drink your nutrition. It just goes on and on.

And then we find out that each one of us is different and a rule that works well for one person is awful for another.
Thank you for this post!!! It perfectly describes the inside of my head and how easy it is to drive oneself crazy being 'mindful'. It's totally worth it but there does need to be a happier medium. Especially with restaurant food... You are so right that many salads will be heavier than an entree. They fly under the guise of being healthy because they are primarily lettuce but dump a ton of oily dressing, nuts, cheese, bacon and nitrite filled deli meats. Get the dressing on the side, take off all the toppings and enjoy your $8 bowl of lettuce. Ahhh well better than 8 pounds heavier and enjoying the whole salad. This has on fact turned me off of restaurants- it almost stresses me out too much trying to order something that they haven't snuck a billion calories into.

Maile
05-29-2012, 05:19 PM
Purple Sky; studying those labels can drive you crazy. What about nf greek yogurt..it is high protein..but has carbs. Do you like nuts? It is too bad you cannot eat soy as endame beans are low carb and good roasted. I just eat 100 calorie packets of nuts..
Cap: Those restaurant salads are bad..I do the same .dressing on the side and often no cheese.
Ishbel: I found that sticking to a few foods or one good meal does it for me on the free day..Good luck on your next one.

Still moving..boxes and more boxes. at least I am burning calories.

Now I was wrong..I cannot get the carb book until Aug.

SaraBean
05-29-2012, 08:57 PM
Rough weekend ladies....started with subs on Friday night and kept going until lunchtime today. Going for 10 phase 2ish type days in a row....hopefully I undo the Memorial Day weekend damage.

Ugh. I am in the same boat. I had a great weekend but ate / drank to the point where I am disgusted with myself. phase 1 until mid June for me. I feel like I am starting to be too lax with my food choices and need to reign it back in. AND I HAVE A WI TOMORROW! YIKES!!!

Momto2cs
05-30-2012, 10:14 AM
The salads often have more calories, but sometimes, ie Caesar salad, it can be good as there are no carbs. But watch the sugar! Restaurants seem to add it to everything... Why??

I continuously choose fat and calories over carbs with no apparent gain.

jennydoodle
05-30-2012, 11:23 AM
The salads often have more calories, but sometimes, ie Caesar salad, it can be good as there are no carbs. But watch the sugar! Restaurants seem to add it to everything... Why??

I continuously choose fat and calories over carbs with no apparent gain.

+1

I constantly chose fat and calories over carbs and stay in my range. I might be up a little because of sodium but I am not full and bloated the way grains make me.

purple sky
05-30-2012, 05:15 PM
Thank you for this post!!! It perfectly describes the inside of my head and how easy it is to drive oneself crazy being 'mindful'. It's totally worth it but there does need to be a happier medium. Especially with restaurant food... You are so right that many salads will be heavier than an entree. They fly under the guise of being healthy because they are primarily lettuce but dump a ton of oily dressing, nuts, cheese, bacon and nitrite filled deli meats. Get the dressing on the side, take off all the toppings and enjoy your $8 bowl of lettuce. Ahhh well better than 8 pounds heavier and enjoying the whole salad. This has on fact turned me off of restaurants- it almost stresses me out too much trying to order something that they haven't snuck a billion calories into.

LOL! At $8 bowl of iceberg.
I am finding some alternatives that may work for me but I will have to order them and test them out. I think going simple and sticking to it might have to be the key otherwise yes crazy sets in and that's not fun. I have spent I don't know how long in store aisles reading and comparing labels. I do the same online. It's exhausting.

Sometimes I wish I could just find big labels that read:
Has this, this and this
Does not have this or this or that.

Stores are getting better with gluten free labels but I have been surprised at the amt. of sweetener in items.

But, this is good. All of this is good. I am so much further along in my quest for health than I have ever been. Never in my life would I have eaten 3-4 cups of veggies in one day. Never. 6 months without sugar (or every little). Would have never happened. 6 months without bread. Would have never happened.

Purple Sky; studying those labels can drive you crazy. What about nf greek yogurt..it is high protein..but has carbs. Do you like nuts? It is too bad you cannot eat soy as endame beans are low carb and good roasted. I just eat 100 calorie packets of nuts..
Cap: Those restaurant salads are bad..I do the same .dressing on the side and often no cheese.
Ishbel: I found that sticking to a few foods or one good meal does it for me on the free day..Good luck on your next one.

Still moving..boxes and more boxes. at least I am burning calories.

Now I was wrong..I cannot get the carb book until Aug.

Keep moving boxes. Sometimes I try to do laundry or pick up the house as inefficiently as possible. I might take a few garments at a time to the washer. Sometimes I intentionally go up or down the stairs with a few items instead of full arms. It takes more time but I call it a mini-workout. I have been shocked at how many steps I can get on my pedometer gizmo by inefficiently and crazily doing chores. Unfortunately, I don't do it daily.

I do yogurt in the morning. I like the creamy sweetness of it with fruit. Comforting. Easy. Enjoyable. Protein.
I am going to try edamame. Something tells me I can have that. I think I have a soy sensitivity to some soy but not all. I can't fully tell yet. Enjoying the Simply Bar which has soy. A little itchy at first but now I am fine. Cannot do soy milk at all.

The salads often have more calories, but sometimes, ie Caesar salad, it can be good as there are no carbs. But watch the sugar! Restaurants seem to add it to everything... Why??

I continuously choose fat and calories over carbs with no apparent gain.

I love Caesar. Thanx. I will try that. I also don't watch fat content as much as I do sugar. I accidentally ordered flavored ice tea which I get a lot. Some are flavored and some are flavored and sweetened. One sip and I felt headachy. They stick sugar in everything. Trying to figure out which items do not have sugar is akin to ordering an $8 bowl of iceberg because it is pretty much sugar free. An item may not have sugar but it could have agave or honey or something.

Momto2cs
05-30-2012, 06:54 PM
The simply bars do have agave or brown rice syrup. I have decided a little regular sugar (ie 4 g of carbs) is acceptable, especially given I work out so much.
I try to avoid it in anything else prepared.

capricious
05-30-2012, 10:29 PM
Thank you to all for your well wishes- they are much appreciated.
I went horribly astray for about a week eating everything I could think I had wanted and missed out on for the past year. Sort of have one of those extremist personalities that's all in or all out ;) . It wasn't pretty but it did make me realize that it was definitely not the way I want to live again. My body just feels so much better when eating healthy whole foods (duh!). Not proud of how I handled the stress and pressure I felt to eat. Very proud of the fact I am eating healthfully again and that I pulled out of the spin. Guess there is something to this whole thing of do it until it becomes habitual because I so missed my routine of eating well it drew me back in. It has finally dawned on me that there are so many benefits to eating well beyond a good figure. My skin is better, my mood is better and my digestive system is MUCH better.
Mom2cs- you're right of course! Atkins style does tend to work better... Have the hardest time wrapping my brain around it sometimes though because calorie counting always wheedles it's way in...
Maile- where are you going on your trip?
SaraBean- sometimes even just following strict Phase 3 is enough to reset eating habits - it's the structure of 3 meals & 1 snack- that I always found to really help.
Ishbel- I didn't exercise at all on Phase 1 or 2 or even 3. Phase 4 since my carbs had increased I started exercising 2-3 x/ week for a half hour. Then read that most successful maintainers exercise at least 250 minutes/ week. So went about making that my weekly goal. I usually do cardio 3-4x/ week for 1 hour and strength training 2x/ week for an hour. Best thing though is to start out slow and easy (walking, DVD, learn to run) that only requires 30 min. Because it's easy to find 30 minutes and so it is an easier commitment to make. Once you're doing 30 minutes 3 or more x per week on a regular basis then think about increasing time and then intensity. When I first hit maintenance woolberger suggested that we do a chAllenge to keep us on track and exercise always figured into our challenges, along with a max of 1 free day, the rest would change but those always stayed the same. I found this very helpful in developing habits...
Pxlkitty- loved hearing about your piano lessons- such happy story!
Jennydoodle- I'm back usin CSP and still really enjoying it. Just feel good...

SaraBean
05-30-2012, 10:47 PM
Capricious- sorry that you were stressed and had a hard time dealing with everything. glad to hear you are back on track. it is funny how the routine of this diet really sticks....

Momto2cs
05-30-2012, 11:07 PM
Sometimes those weeks, like I had on my trip, are a relief. You realize that although you like so e of those foods, they are fine as "special treat" and that sticking to the low car diet, and staying thin, is much more appealing.

SaraBean
05-30-2012, 11:11 PM
Sometimes those weeks, like I had on my trip, are a relief. You realize that although you like so e of those foods, they are fine as "special treat" and that sticking to the low car diet, and staying thin, is much more appealing.

Very well said :)

Maile
05-30-2012, 11:12 PM
Cap: The most important thing is that you are back on track and feeling good about yourself. That is such an important step. It is nice to realize how much better you feel when you are eating healthfully. Progress not perfection..keep telling yourself that.

Purple sky: lots of months with no sugar or bread. Great..You feel better..and so many more vegetables.

Sarabean:you do feel better staying on low carb. Good luck with your WI and Phase 1.

Momto2cs: It is funny how you think you miss the foods and then when you have them, you find that you would rather feel better and stay away from them.

Ishbel
05-31-2012, 11:30 AM
Thank you to all for your well wishes- they are much appreciated.
I went horribly astray for about a week eating everything I could think I had wanted and missed out on for the past year. Sort of have one of those extremist personalities that's all in or all out ;) . It wasn't pretty but it did make me realize that it was definitely not the way I want to live again. My body just feels so much better when eating healthy whole foods (duh!). Not proud of how I handled the stress and pressure I felt to eat. Very proud of the fact I am eating healthfully again and that I pulled out of the spin. Guess there is something to this whole thing of do it until it becomes habitual because I so missed my routine of eating well it drew me back in. It has finally dawned on me that there are so many benefits to eating well beyond a good figure. My skin is better, my mood is better and my digestive system is MUCH better.
Mom2cs- you're right of course! Atkins style does tend to work better... Have the hardest time wrapping my brain around it sometimes though because calorie counting always wheedles it's way in...
Maile- where are you going on your trip?
SaraBean- sometimes even just following strict Phase 3 is enough to reset eating habits - it's the structure of 3 meals & 1 snack- that I always found to really help.
Ishbel- I didn't exercise at all on Phase 1 or 2 or even 3. Phase 4 since my carbs had increased I started exercising 2-3 x/ week for a half hour. Then read that most successful maintainers exercise at least 250 minutes/ week. So went about making that my weekly goal. I usually do cardio 3-4x/ week for 1 hour and strength training 2x/ week for an hour. Best thing though is to start out slow and easy (walking, DVD, learn to run) that only requires 30 min. Because it's easy to find 30 minutes and so it is an easier commitment to make. Once you're doing 30 minutes 3 or more x per week on a regular basis then think about increasing time and then intensity. When I first hit maintenance woolberger suggested that we do a chAllenge to keep us on track and exercise always figured into our challenges, along with a max of 1 free day, the rest would change but those always stayed the same. I found this very helpful in developing habits...
Pxlkitty- loved hearing about your piano lessons- such happy story!
Jennydoodle- I'm back usin CSP and still really enjoying it. Just feel good...

Thanks for the response back Cap, glad you're feeling better with your eating habits. Going through something like that is an emotional rollercoaster! :/ :hug:

I already tried exercising...I had toe surgery so couldn't exercise and then got approval to 'run' last Wednesday...but then had surgery on my leg scheduled for Friday. So last Thursday was my "LETS SEE WHAT THIS BODY CAN DO". I ran for 20 minutes without stopping, took a 2 minute walk and then ran for another 20 minutes. With warm up and cool down a total of 55 minutes on the treadmill. It was my quads that gave out not my lungs which I found very interesting. The next day was a normal 'workout ache'. So I didn't hurt myself.

HOWEVER, I had some complications with the leg surgery and ended up in the ER last Friday evening with a blood clot...SO I'm not running for a bit now. Stitches come out tomorrow so we'll see what the doc says. I expect I can walk or do the stairmill (I call it the death mill) and then sometime next week I should be able to run again.

I was pumped to feel that strong!!

Shayideal
05-31-2012, 01:15 PM
Hi All,
I am too feeling the effects of Memorial Day Weekend and will be following Phase 2 for about a week. This is a good opportunity, my husband will be gone for a week fishing in Canada and I don't have to worry about cooking as much.

I did run for the first time since losing the weight last night and was able to run 1/2 mile without stopping. Running is so much easier without 50 extra pounds :) So excited to do it again! Hope everyone is having a great day!

capricious
06-01-2012, 02:29 PM
Ishbel sorry to hear about all your medical issues- good for you for keeping up such a great attitude! Hope you're all healed quickly!
Maile- love the quote...progress not perfection... And thank you for the advice about the tea. I have been having it quite a bit more frequently on the evenings and it does help...
Mom2cs- your post was very well said. Treats are not treats when they're all the time and they don't taste as good. Plus the body feels & looks terrible after. So not worth it.
SaraBean & Determined- are you phase 1ing?

Darralyn
06-01-2012, 03:01 PM
Hello everyone,
I am still in phase 1 but have some questions about maintenence. I have grow very fond of the bars, puddings and shakes. Do any of you continue with these items into maintenence? I plan do eat low carb forever as I have major addictions to most grains and of course sugar, but I love the sweetnes of the IP puddings and bars and want to maintain them in the future. Just curious to see if you all do this or not. Thanks.

New Englander
06-01-2012, 04:54 PM
Hi everyone, Just a quick NSV to share...I was shocked when I asked the sales person at Macy's about dresses...he told me I could look in one spot and then said the juniors section also has some more casual dresses... JUNIORS!!! I told him how I just lost 70 pounds and have never been directed to Juniors (well, since I was a junior)... Wow!!! Loving this "diet" and way of life!

That's all... :)

Momto2cs
06-01-2012, 07:23 PM
Darralyn
I think most of us continue to use bars and shakes, probably indefinitely. I like them too, and convenience is important as it is often tough to find low carb snacks, etc.

Darralyn
06-01-2012, 07:28 PM
Darralyn
I think most of us continue to use bars and shakes, probably indefinitely. I like them too, and convenience is important as it is often tough to find low carb snacks, etc.

Do you use IP Products or alternatives? If you use alternatives which ones?

purple sky
06-01-2012, 07:35 PM
Hi everyone, Just a quick NSV to share...I was shocked when I asked the sales person at Macy's about dresses...he told me I could look in one spot and then said the juniors section also has some more casual dresses... JUNIORS!!! I told him how I just lost 70 pounds and have never been directed to Juniors (well, since I was a junior)... Wow!!! Loving this "diet" and way of life!

That's all... :)

It's fun when a lot of things you try on are cute AND they fit. I still take things out of the dryer, convinced I have shrunk them because they don't look like they will fit me.

Momto2cs
06-01-2012, 07:38 PM
I continue to use ip soups and puddings as I like them. I also use the simply bar, as my stomach can't deal with the sugar alcohols in ip bars.
I sometimes use designer whey protein powder from Walmart.
I do buy protidiet oatmeal as it is good for traveling and delicious.

Darralyn
06-01-2012, 07:46 PM
I continue to use ip soups and puddings as I like them. I also use the simply bar, as my stomach can't deal with the sugar alcohols in ip bars.
I sometimes use designer whey protein powder from Walmart.
I do buy protidiet oatmeal as it is good for traveling and delicious.

Thank you very much for all your help! I have been fretting about the maintenence phase cause I like the iP stuff and it is a treat.:)

Determinedat47
06-01-2012, 07:56 PM
Ishbel sorry to hear about all your medical issues- good for you for keeping up such a great attitude! Hope you're all healed quickly!
Maile- love the quote...progress not perfection... And thank you for the advice about the tea. I have been having it quite a bit more frequently on the evenings and it does help...
Mom2cs- your post was very well said. Treats are not treats when they're all the time and they don't taste as good. Plus the body feels & looks terrible after. So not worth it.
SaraBean & Determined- are you phase 1ing?

I am trying to phase 1- still struggling-I do great for 4-5 days and drop about 5 pounds(funny how well it works when we follow the plan) and then I go off with the excuse of- I have my period, I am stressed, I am tired, etc etc etc. Interesting how I dealt with all of thos things for 9 months last year and stayed 100% on plan. What a head game I play with myself. And once I am off for the day, well, it is ugly. Trying trying trying. I feel so great when on plan and so icky and bloated when not. Carbohydrate addiction is the pits! Hey- I'll keep trying. This forum is so great to have. Here is to a great weekend everyone!!!!!!!!:carrot:

Determinedat47
06-01-2012, 08:00 PM
Hello everyone,
I am still in phase 1 but have some questions about maintenence. I have grow very fond of the bars, puddings and shakes. Do any of you continue with these items into maintenence? I plan do eat low carb forever as I have major addictions to most grains and of course sugar, but I love the sweetnes of the IP puddings and bars and want to maintain them in the future. Just curious to see if you all do this or not. Thanks.

I have never used the bars- my clinic sells no restricted's for whatever reason. But....I do continue to use the soups, puddings, drinks. But then again, I am up and down. When I was doing maintenance correctly, I used the products for a nightly snack or a phase 1 day after a treat day.

SaraBean
06-01-2012, 10:06 PM
SaraBean & Determined- are you phase 1ing?

I was phase 1ing until today....my husband and I signed the papers for our first house! We celebrated with a glass of champagne. but hey you only buy your first house once in your life :) other than that, been sticking with phase 1 and it feels great! Almost back to my pre-Memorial Day weight (I gained almost 3lbs last week eek!). Just have to keep myself on track. I feel so much better about my self when I follow healthy eating habits :) happy weekend everyone!

SaraBean
06-01-2012, 10:10 PM
Hello everyone,
I am still in phase 1 but have some questions about maintenence. I have grow very fond of the bars, puddings and shakes. Do any of you continue with these items into maintenence? I plan do eat low carb forever as I have major addictions to most grains and of course sugar, but I love the sweetnes of the IP puddings and bars and want to maintain them in the future. Just curious to see if you all do this or not. Thanks.

I still have an ip soup almost everyday with my salad at lunch. would be very hard to get my protein in w/o them :) tuna and hard boiled eggs are ok once and awhile but I feel the shakes and soups are very easy for lunch.

SaraBean
06-01-2012, 10:13 PM
I am trying to phase 1- still struggling-I do great for 4-5 days and drop about 5 pounds(funny how well it works when we follow the plan) and then I go off with the excuse of- I have my period, I am stressed, I am tired, etc etc etc. Interesting how I dealt with all of thos things for 9 months last year and stayed 100% on plan. What a head game I play with myself. And once I am off for the day, well, it is ugly. Trying trying trying. I feel so great when on plan and so icky and bloated when not. Carbohydrate addiction is the pits! Hey- I'll keep trying. This forum is so great to have. Here is to a great weekend everyone!!!!!!!!:carrot:

It is funny how hard it is to stick with phase 1 now even though we did it for months in the past..... lol! We both can do it! Lets stick to it :)

purple sky
06-01-2012, 10:26 PM
also use the simply bar, as my stomach can't deal with the sugar alcohols in ip bars.


Funny you should mention that. I downed two Atkins bars in one sitting the other day. Followed by a Simply bar for good measure? No, I was trying to stop myself from eating another Atkins. Well...what they say about sugar alcohols is true. For hours and hours all kinds of sounds and aromas were coming out of me. Very unladylike and most unpleasant. Hard to eat dinner, no matter how delicious, when you are full of gas. So I learned, the unpleasant way, that sugar alcohols and I do not go well together.

Maile
06-02-2012, 12:06 PM
Ishbel:
I hope you are feeling better..and am so glad you got to the ER room and took care of that clot. I hope with your stitches out, you can get back to exercising soon.

Momto2cs: I figure you would understand this reaction,.
I found out that I will have to switch my gym. I have been going to it for a year and a half. At first I panicked thinking I would gain all of my weight back. Then I realized that I was the one who lost all of that weight..not anyone else. I can survive and found another gym.
Exercise has become a very important part of my life.

Shavideal: Exercise is so much easier with a lighter weight. Wonderful on you losing 50 pounds!

New Englander: That is so cute being directed to the Jrs. You have done so well losing 70 pounds. Clothes shopping is now fun!

SaraBean: Congrats on getting your first house. That is exciting. Good luck to you on Phase 1ing.

Purple Sky: I did that once also. I ate a box of Atkins Bars..What a mistake..You are right about the side effects.

Determined: Good luck on Phase 1! You reminded me that I loved many of the IP soups..especially loaded with vegetables.

Cap: Hope your week is going well. Are you feeling less stressed and less tired?

Well..School finally ended. I am heading to Hawaii tomorrow to see my family. My 93 yr old mom needs to have back surgery. I know it will be a high stress visit. I plan to stay on as best as I can.

Maile
06-02-2012, 12:10 PM
Thank you very much for all your help! I have been fretting about the maintenence phase cause I like the iP stuff and it is a treat.:)
In my early maintenance I still had the pudding snack and crispy cereal. Some people keep using them in maintenance,. Eventually I started using alternatives such as Healthy Smart cereal and low carb breads and pancakes.

You will be fine either way!

Determinedat47
06-02-2012, 03:16 PM
I am committed to phase 1 this week. My phase 1 is truvia and half & half with 3-4 cups of coffee for breakfast and then a packet & veggies for lunch and so on. I need to stay on the wagon, meet my goal and phase off correctly. Struggling with carb addiction. A little makes me want more. Am going to Florida this month and hoping to get at least 10 pounds off by then. Nose to the grindstone!!!!!!

purple sky
06-02-2012, 04:04 PM
Well..School finally ended. I am heading to Hawaii tomorrow to see my family. My 93 yr old mom needs to have back surgery. I know it will be a high stress visit. I plan to stay on as best as I can.

Try to sneek in a few moments for yourself, if you can. It is Hawaii after all. The air. The breeze. Hope your mom does well. I have an ailing pop and it is hard to be so far away. But, he turned the corner. Getting better. But, I understand. When you are with family, especially under stressful circumstances, you sorta have to eat whatever is there. It's a little hard to be choosey about food in the midst of that. So, you have to do the best you can. Comfort foods are often around a lot. You got this.

Just got this in an e-mail. Thought you all might enjoy.
"Men think it's a woman's dream to find the perfect man. Every woman's dream is to eat anything without getting fat."

Determinedat47
06-02-2012, 05:47 PM
Purple sky- love love love that saying- soooo true! :)

cappie
06-02-2012, 11:39 PM
May i ask? What is the tittle of the book from amazon?
I have been on ip for 1month and lost about 14lbs.
I love all the ideas you all have.
thank you!

capricious
06-03-2012, 02:37 AM
Maile- I hope your mother does well with her back surgery and that you do, indeed, enjoy your trip 'home'. How come you are changing gyms? I think I would find that very hard as well. After such a long time going to the same place everything is so wonderfully familiar to me... from the staff to fellow gym goers. Do you still weigh yourself when you go to Hawaii? I find this to be the thing that keeps me the most accountable...
PurpleSky- Love the quote! Had me laughing...
Determined & Sarabean- I'm on Phase 1 with you...

SaraBean
06-03-2012, 09:47 AM
Determined & Sarabean- I'm on Phase 1 with you...

Nice! I am getting ready to cook my herb and cheese omelet :)

New Englander
06-03-2012, 10:00 AM
I have to go on steroids for an MS exacerbation... it will be a five day treatment but isn't i/v solu medrol which is a good thing...Steroids caused my weight to go up beginning in 2004 when I was diagnosed. Hopefully being on IP will help me keep my weight in check...I know I'll get puffy and "nasty" looking... :( but hopefully I can resist the urge to splurge...steroids (for me anyway) increase my appetite...

Has anyone else gone on steroids since being on iP?

capricious
06-03-2012, 12:06 PM
Sarabean- I'll be having the wild berry pancakes for breakfast. This is my 3rd day on Phase 1. And my 3rd day having wild berry pancakes. The first two days I made wild berry oatmeal muffins which makes about 12 mini muffins so six for lunch, six for snack, regular dinner.
I've been restricted from exercise by my doc and my calves. Neither seem to think my working out is a very good idea. The latter have been spasming and cramping every day. The former says to quit pushing it and have some patience until he can figure what's going on.... My hope is that it will resolve itself with rest. But in the meantime I have to jump off CSP because without exercise I don't lose on it. And I need to lose to get my jeans to fit properly again after my week of abandon.
So here I am.
Will continue with CSP when the whole exercise issue is resolved. Try to enjoy my rest, relaxation and Phase 1...
Determined- you do indeed sound determined again! I use almond milk in my coffee...
NewEnglander- the person to talk to would be Linden... But unfortunately she hasn't been around for a bit. My mom has MS as well... Not a pleasant disease to have to deal with... You are very strong to have done so much...

Momto2cs
06-03-2012, 06:31 PM
I have to go on steroids for an MS exacerbation... it will be a five day treatment but isn't i/v solu medrol which is a good thing...Steroids caused my weight to go up beginning in 2004 when I was diagnosed. Hopefully being on IP will help me keep my weight in check...I know I'll get puffy and "nasty" looking... :( but hopefully I can resist the urge to splurge...steroids (for me anyway) increase my appetite...

Has anyone else gone on steroids since being on iP?

That sucks. Do you take extra vitamin d? Seems to help some people...

frazzledmom04
06-04-2012, 01:30 PM
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purple sky
06-04-2012, 02:23 PM
Do you guys have snacking suggestions? I am working at weaning myself off IP products and want to move towards real food. I tried yogurt and fruit in the evening but because I associate it with breakfast it felt odd. I can try nuts but I don't ever really crave them. I tried switching to the salty IP products and that helps with my overindulgence problem with the bars. But, I rarely crave salty.

Ishbel
06-04-2012, 02:30 PM
Maile, sorry about your mama, thinking of you..I too wouldn't know what to do if I had to change gyms. Thankfully mines at work and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

Sarabean, how is your Phase 1 going I saw that you're posting on the daily and 100%...awesome :) I use the 100% to keep me straight and narrow...I lurk there a lot specifically on the phase 1 days lol

Momto2cs, agreed, sometimes the food as a treat once you have it, really isn't what you expected....and you feel so gross afterwards. I did this when I was heavy too though, I would just ignore it and blame it on something else. When all the while it was the food, a vicious cycle.

Determined47 hows your phase 1 going?

New Englander, I'm sorry :( I've never really had to be on steroids for a long time, watched my brother-in-law go through that struggle though. :/

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So, the last two stitches come out tomorrow (WOOT WOOT)....maybe a little jog after supper on Tuesday?? FOR SURE, gym on Thursday AND I just signed up for a 5K run (not a race) at work for the 15 June, my fitness guru friend said because of my good experience last week with running that 5 K would be a good challenge. BUT it's not a RACE! :)

This weekend was better on my 'free/fun day'. I more or less got into the fruit and a bit of nuts with a specific meal. I didn't drink any alcohol and I think it shows on the scale. SO, this coming weekend I'm planning on having some drinks so we'll see what happens on the scale this time next week. I’m taking my own ginger ale splenda pop and my own grey goose (mmm) to keep the sugar to a minimum, but we’ll see on the other ‘stuff’, it’s my sisters 40th birthday and we’ve NEVER ‘had drinks’ together and I know she has a specialty shot in store.

Also, I had this conversation at a pot luck last week with a gent that lost 60 lbs a few years ago and he said "I've been trying to maintain it ever since" and I TOTALLY like that saying. I told him "isn't that the jist of it, you are never done maintaining...you're always 'trying' and the fight never really goes away?" He looked at me, smiled a little and said "yeah, you're right".

So I think that might turn into my new mantra, because the battle of weight loss can be over but the war of maintenance continues on throughout life.

Have a great day everyone, keep trying! :)

capricious
06-04-2012, 02:56 PM
Ishbel- it's true that weight loss is the battle and weight maintenance is the war. And it has been such a self discovery process. Figuring out triggers and avoiding them... How much fun to have on free day...mixing up the menu without incorporating too many indulgences... Watching the scale without driving yourself crazy with it. I am very thankful for Phase 1. It's as though every time I do it I'm brought back to the first time. A bit like riding a bike after you haven't done so for 10 years. You can still do it but it's a bit wobbly and puts the fear into you of whether you can stay upright. Then after a time being on it you're as comfortable as you ever were. I gave myself over to the process the first time around and it worked beautifully. And every time in maintenance that I've had my weight creep up and had to go back on Phase 1 for a bit it has worked as well as the first time. There is something so calming about Phase 1. Don't know if it's because I don't have to make as many decisions or because it kills my cravings. Anyway I feel very fortunate to be in maintenance following IP because it does provide quite the safety net...

New Englander
06-04-2012, 07:35 PM
That sucks. Do you take extra vitamin d? Seems to help some people...
Hi, Yes I do take a vit D supplement and my levels are really good now! :)

SaraBean
06-05-2012, 08:44 AM
Sarabean, how is your Phase 1 going I saw that you're posting on the daily and 100%...awesome :) I use the 100% to keep me straight and narrow...I lurk there a lot specifically on the phase 1 days lol


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So, the last two stitches come out tomorrow (WOOT WOOT)....maybe a little jog after supper on Tuesday?? FOR SURE, gym on Thursday AND I just signed up for a 5K run (not a race) at work for the 15 June, my fitness guru friend said because of my good experience last week with running that 5 K would be a good challenge. BUT it's not a RACE! :)

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Phase 1 is going pretty well :) I have been eating the 3 packets a day along with my veggies and I feel pretty good! I have lots of energy and my cravings are down. This morning I actually had a phase 3 breakfast... I am going out in the field on a boat for 8 hrs and thought I could use a little extra boost for my long day.

I have lost a couple of the lbs I put on during my Memorial Day extravaganza and that feels good too! I'm going to keep up these easting habits until my friends wedding on the 16th.

Congrats on signing up for a 5K! running and signing up for races has always helped me stay on track with the gym! Be sure to keep us posted!!!! :carrot:

Ishbel
06-05-2012, 10:48 AM
Phase 1 is going pretty well :) I have been eating the 3 packets a day along with my veggies and I feel pretty good! I have lots of energy and my cravings are down. This morning I actually had a phase 3 breakfast... I am going out in the field on a boat for 8 hrs and thought I could use a little extra boost for my long day.

I have lost a couple of the lbs I put on during my Memorial Day extravaganza and that feels good too! I'm going to keep up these easting habits until my friends wedding on the 16th.

Congrats on signing up for a 5K! running and signing up for races has always helped me stay on track with the gym! Be sure to keep us posted!!!! :carrot:

Spoke too soon, have to remove my name :(! I had something else scheduled that day (which I had forgotten to put in my calendar), I'm surrounded by fitness guru's so I was hoping to blow them away lol. Oh well!

So you're going to do Phase 1 until the wedding or Phase 3 and back and forth until the wedding? How long did you do Ph1 this time? How long have you been in maintenance? Sorry for the questions, just trying to figure out who's who in the zoo (and who phased off around the same time as me) :)

I'm a little anxious that my sister's 40th will show something only because I'm suspecting the BOOZE is bad (for me anyway). Not that I choose that, I'll choose food over booze LOL but my first free day aftermath was a little scarey and that had booze. ;)

Cap totally agree with your post, so far so good doing a PH1 day (or two) is like riding a bike, I hope that never goes away. AND I also agree that it takes away some of the anxiety that you feel with the scale, but really I just feel better mentally. Maybe it's just that I'm doing something about it, that Phase 1 is my 'plan', that I don't have to see the scale bump up over and over. Here's hoping that, that ability doesn't loose it's strength over time (how long have you been in maintenance?)

Maile
06-05-2012, 11:17 AM
Thanks everyone for your well wishes. I have been swamped with dr visits trying to set up my mom's surgery. At least the success rate is very high. Quite honestly I am exhausted with family demands.
I have been taking lovely walks around the beach and have seen some beautiful ocean sunsets.
Ish bel, glad you are getting your stitches out and getting ready to run again!

Cap and Ishbel, I agree with your comments on maintenance. This is a life long committment to a healthy life. I am slowly gaining the confidence that no matter where I am or what I face, I can figure out a way to eat healthfully. Even if I can,t have the optimum healthy meal, that is ok.
Yes Phase 1 is such a security and comfort to have when needed.
I think you feel like you have regained control and are actively doing something about keeping your weight off.
I have lost my scale anxiety..due to keeping under my goal weight so if I go up, I am still under my goal weight.
It seems that you will always be explaining your eating to someone. My sister is my height but 30 pounds overweight. She cannot understand my way of eating..especially not eating many fruits. My mom and her roommate try to feed me sweets and I simply say I don,t eat sugar.
I am now in 8 months of maintenance. I am happier and healthier than I have been in years. My sister is surprised at my energy and my committment to exercise.

Purple sky, I don,t have any great snack ideas. Maybe humus and celery? Or cottage cheese and veges?

Maile
06-05-2012, 11:50 AM
Ishbel, have fun at your sister's bd party. Alcohol usually doesn't cause a weight gain unless it is from heavy sugar drinks.

Sarabean, thank heavens for those packets and Phase 1! How fun to look forward to a wedding. I have crispy cereal packets for mornings when my dinner was not optimum the night before.

New Englander, I have not been on steroids..but hope they help you and hope the side effects are not too bad. Have you started the 5 day treatment yet? Maybe you go on Phase 1 if the side effects start bothering you. Hopefully having IP behind you will make this round easier for you. Good luck.

Cap , are you feeling better? Are your calf cramps due to low potassium or low calcium? I am sorry..you must be in pain. Does it usually happen at night? Are you making the wild berry pancakes from the csp book?
Yes, I do weigh myself while in hi! The morning gym program closed..but I am ok with it.


Off to another dr apt.

Momto2cs
06-05-2012, 11:59 AM
Phase 1 and Monday's go hand in hand for me. I always seem to give in to the booze, not necessarily the food. I try to keep it all low carb, red wine and vodka water. A few tortilla chips might sneak by! I am often 148 on Monday, back to 145 by Wednesday.
For snacks I have hard boiled eggs, almonds,cheese strings, beef jerky.
Everything stays pretty low carb, and I focus on more fat and protein when snacking.
I have maintained since April 2011, barring my December binge that started with my 40 birthday and ended up 13 pounds on jan 2. All those pounds are gone thanks to a good phase 1 reboot!

purple sky
06-05-2012, 12:27 PM
Maile, so glad to hear you are getting some moments to yourself and standing strong. We do eat funny. More than 6 months ago if someone were eating like i am, I would have looked at them cross-eyed. It is a little weird to sit there and dissect your food and leave stuff on the plate. But, that's okay. We worked very hard to get where we are.

The sugar issue is a problem. It's in everything. People don't consider honey or agave or to sugar. So it's tricky.

Thanx for the hummus suggestion. I love hummus.

Thanx Momto2cs. I like those suggestions too. I just need to have a reserve on hand and these will help. Also, I appear to be weaning myself off my addictive problem with the IP/Atkins bars. Without them my sugar cravings are more reasonable. I am playing around with a few other bars and some protein powders. Shakes and smoothies are more familiar to old me.

JellyMae87
06-05-2012, 04:34 PM
Hello all. Just wanted to say hi... And come on here for some motivation... Still stuck in this rut. Like I've been in since march... Ugh.

capricious
06-05-2012, 04:52 PM
Maile- I am so glad to read a post from you again! That three days seemed like a really long time :) Sorry to hear that you've been so busy with so many appointments but love hearing the balance you've achieved with your eating and exercise patterns. Walking by the water and feeling the tradewinds is uplifting there's no two ways about it... it always brought me peace while I was there and it sounds as though it is doing the same for you thankfully...
I think part of the reason I got into so much tumult the week of the funeral was being amongst my good friends from my 20's. Who all remember me indulging far too much and being much heavier for it. They are comfortable with that person and not so comfortable with who I am now. And that pleaser in me, especially when my friend was hurting, wanted to give in... But this isn't doing anyone any good. Because I am who I am now. And me giving myself up in favor of anyone else isn't going to benefit either party... learned it before and learning it again...
Your dealings with your sister sound much the same way (except you didn't cave! Good for you Maile!!) that she wants you to make her feel better by condoning her food choices and indulging in them yourself. The best hope is that she will follow your model since you chose not to follow hers... and then everyone can be on the same (healthy) page...
I am making wildberry pancakes from IP wildberry yogurt drink. As I have given up CSP until I can resume exercise. Doc tested my potassium (as this is what he suspected) and other minerals/vitamins and all my levels came back normal... ditto on the d-dimer test that assesses for clots.
It was fairly scary for me the day I tried to do step aerobics last week as after five minutes I was almost crying and barely hobbled myself out of class. Then had to sit for 20 minutes until the cramping abated wondering how on earth I was going to round up my children from the babysitting in this condition. It scared me enough to make a follow up doc appt.
I really miss the exercise. And the mood boost the endorphins give. But I will be everlastingly grateful for Phase 1. Because at least while I'm unable to exercise I don't just have to sit back and watch my weight increase.
I went to stock up on IP products today from a clinic that I didn't lose with the first go round but whom I usually buy from since starting maintenance (didn't realize they were there the first go round). When the lady saw the amount of product I was buying she inquired as to whether it was just supplementing or if I was back on full bore. I admitted I was back on and she talked me into doing it with help from the clinic. They had a really neat little machine that assesses body fat/ lean body mass/ BMR. As my weighing in today was completely unexpected I was in jeans. I NEVER weigh in jeans. And I sure didn't want to today but she talked me into it. Guess I'll be wearing a skirt next week and enjoying a whopper of a loss ;)
Ishbel- enjoy the drinks at the wedding... just commit to the fact that the next day you're on Phase 1 no matter what or how you're feeling. And drink TONS of water both the night of and the next day... your body will be way too dehydrated between the combo of processing alcohol AND not having any carbs...
I have been in maintenance since August 2011. 10 months almost at this point. But like I said, I'm back on Phase 1 and considering I got 10 pounds above my maintenance weight I may very well have to start counting my maintenance over again... Which saddens me a bit but I'll take that over gaining 40 or 50 and then having to lose that and start counting my maintenance from there ;)
Have you chosen a weight maintenance range? Usually it's 3 above your 'static' weight (that # you like and usually see on the scale). If you get more than 3 above it you hit Phase 1 til it gets back to where it should be. This worked extremely well for me for many months... and there were some free days that would leave me on Phase 1 for 3 days... but it's worth it to deal with it on a weekly basis rather than letting it pile up and trying to 'take care of it' after.
Sarabean- glad to hear that you are back to your pre- Memorial day weight! Good for you!!
PurpleSky- are you more of a sweet or savory snacker?

Momto2cs
06-05-2012, 06:36 PM
Hey cap-sorry to hear your return to exercise was so traumatic. I do find I cramp if I am not taking the potassium and magnesium. Hopefully it will resolve. Maybe start slower...or whatever the dr thinks!
I weigh every day and must be within 145-149 or I am completely phase1. I have only gotten over this over Christmas (13 pounds up not good). And last week after a week in London I saw 151. Today I back at 146. I don't know why I can never get any lower...but my body fat was 16% last time I popped into my clinic, so I expect ketosis has a limit when there is not a lot of fat left to lose. I am pretty satisfied overall with how I look. Stupid scale :)

Good luck with the 10 pounds.

capricious
06-05-2012, 07:37 PM
Thanks for the support Mom2cs. I am focused on ridding myself of the extra weight and taking this enforced break from exercise as a positive in that it enables me to focus totally on Phase 1. Doc says no exercise of any kind until they figure it out. I am really hoping it's just overuse and that it will resolve itself with rest.
A huge congrats on your BF%!!!! That was your goal right? 15? And that is stupendous!! You're totally my hero right now. For recovering from your Christmas slip and coming back to nail 15%! Here's hoping I can follow in your footsteps! Heck with the scale... Your lean body mass is probably quite high from the muscle... Way better to be a super toned 145 than a flabby 125...

purple sky
06-05-2012, 09:23 PM
PurpleSky- are you more of a sweet or savory snacker?

Sweet.

I did it again. 1IP package and 2 of my other bars in one sitting. And I was doing well for a few days. Oh well. Trial and error I guess. The scale got back down to my comfort zone. Maybe that is why I slide. Oh well. Guess I need to keep dinner lean.

Momto2cs
06-05-2012, 10:30 PM
Get rid of those bars!
Thanks cap! I put in a lot of hard hours at the gym. I am just glad they are finally paying off in a hard body! I have big legs....have always hated them...but now that they are visibly muscular I am wiling to show them!

capricious
06-06-2012, 12:48 AM
I'm a sweets person as well but I'm not much help on this one... In the beginning I used the IP bars ( usually one or two a day as snacks)...I found this link about cravings that I thought was pretty interesting...http://skinnyms.com/control-your-cravings-trigger-foods-and-tips-to-beat-cravings/
As well if you find your having trouble stopping yourself magnesium (I use CALM) can really help you out. It evens out your blood sugars, so of it's late afternoon/ evening when this is coming on it may have to do with your blood sugar... Just food for thought...

jennydoodle
06-06-2012, 12:08 PM
Cap & Purple- try the "Simply bars". Mom2tocs recommended them to me and they are really good. They are made of only whole ingredients and no fake stuff. They definitely do not trigger any cravings in me. I have the chocolate peanut ones and they are good. The texture is like a rice crispy treat, so it is a little bit different than the bars we are used to. Plus there is only 9 grams of carbs and 4 of them are fiber.

capricious
06-06-2012, 12:32 PM
Just saw your post Mom2cs... You sound very typical mesomorph to me- funny cause every man wants to be a mesomorph and every woman wants to be an ectomorph! Hope you passed on those genes to a lucky little man... Pretty sure my little guy is going to get mine. I have the thigh issues as well it'll melt off the rest of me but it refuses to let go there... But at 15% who cares Yours have gotta be rocks!
Jennydoodle- I've had the simply bars as well... You're right they are very good and they don't trigger cravings or leave me wanting more...

Momto2cs
06-06-2012, 01:25 PM
I am definitely more mesomorph...I put on muscle fairly quickly.
My daughter has more of my shape than my son. Very long body and shorter legs! She is looking like she will get close to 6 feet as well, so hopefully no weight issues! Of course, it's hard to tell when they are 7, but she is taller than all her 9 year old brothers friends!
Ds is also clearly going to be tall! My dh is very muscular (and big, but still losing nicely). Hopefully ds takes after him as he played college football and is very athletic!
Although I use the scale for maintaining it still frustrates me that when I was 30 I easily maintained 135 pounds (no muscle) and that now that I am so much fitter they scale is higher. People are usually surprised by how much I weigh...
Sigh.

Ishbel
06-06-2012, 01:25 PM
maile thanks for the comments on the drinks not causing weight gain unless they are full of sugar - makes me feel a little better as I'm not planning on having sugary drinks....still though, it's a test :) the VIP likes rum...and had introduced me to really GOOD rum (pre-IP)...so we'll see if I can find something that will satisfy a summer drink that isn't RUM! lol

cap your maintenance is your 10 months, even if you had life throw you a curve ball, you're still in maintenance...that's life and you're managing it with tools that IP gave you. You are great at this and I do love your posts! Thanks for the extra support in reminding me to be OP the day after if I'm hung-over. LOL I don't plan on that, last time I drank I had 4 drinks and needed to go to bed...I'm a bit of a lush/cheap date now. So I think I'll just have a few so that I can stay up late LOL


Ok, so spoke too soon on the 5K, I got the stitches out but now I have steri strips that have to stay on until they fall off and no exercise for another week. I did provide gory details on the surgery in the 100% if you wanna REALLY know...I know I'm pushing it considering the depth of the surgery and the complications but I really think I'd sleep better if I could exercise.

So Mom2cs - where in Canada do you get the simply bars? I was thinking of buying some shakes I was scoping out last weekend (that have no sugar, and I can't remember the name) at the Superstore. I was going to use on my Phase 1 this weekend.

sunnymae
06-06-2012, 01:25 PM
Phase 1 and Monday's go hand in hand for me. I always seem to give in to the booze, not necessarily the food. I try to keep it all low carb, red wine and vodka water. A few tortilla chips might sneak by! I am often 148 on Monday, back to 145 by Wednesday.
For snacks I have hard boiled eggs, almonds,cheese strings, beef jerky.
Everything stays pretty low carb, and I focus on more fat and protein when snacking.
I have maintained since April 2011, barring my December binge that started with my 40 birthday and ended up 13 pounds on jan 2. All those pounds are gone thanks to a good phase 1 reboot!

Wow...congrats on your reboot! You're inspiring me to keep going. I also relate to the booze over food. Seems to be my achiles heel on free days and really spikes my weight.

So...I'm still on track with my ph.1,2 slow loss which is OK with me. I'm going more natural, including nuts and looking at which fat/carbs have more or less effects on me. I love all the info you all are sharing about what works and what doesn't.

Thanks for the ladies who recommended Simply bars...I haven't heard of them and will check 'em out.

On the Reboot thread I just laid out all my test/hormone results from my Dr. if you're interested in what was triggering such a rapid regain of fat in particular. BMI shot back up to 29! I'm dealing with it and will keep reporting new results as I go along.

Thanks for being there ladies. I don't know what I'd do without US!!!!

Momto2cs
06-06-2012, 01:31 PM
I bought the simply bars online. I think they have a list of stores that carry them, but fort McMurray, Ab is pretty isolated!

purple sky
06-06-2012, 03:08 PM
Simply bars help but I am soy sensitive. But, they definitely help. I feel good after eating them. Even. I ordered them through Amazon as the shipping through the company is crazy. They are dry and not too sweet but enjoyable. Filling. Satiates appetite and does not monkey with blood sugar. Very clean. They use Non-GMO Soy and I believe agave and brown rice syrup as sweeteners. They travel well. No coating.

I have been looking for alternatives, which is tricky. Hard to find items without whey or soy that are sweetened with stevia.

I went back to some old bars I had tried before. (Been off IP bars for days now. They are problematic for me.) These bars fit the criteria but had a smidge more sweetener than I am used to. They have a nice hard cookie like crunch and are healthy and super clean.

I was bummed cause I thought I licked the problem last week and then yesterday I had the IP ridges (which was my trick to avoid the binge - salty) and then one of my bars. For some reason I did not stop at one.

I just don't know what my gateway trigger is. Iced coffee. Don't want to give that up. Nice alternative to water.

It also scares me that for the first time in my life I am exhibiting addictive behaviors. I don't have a history of that. The smidge of sweetener in any of these bars should not be enough to trigger unhealthy behaviors. Sugar is not something that can be avoided. It is in everything.

Nothing I am eating is sweet by any standard. I'll keep working on this but this new found addictive behavior is scary. It's not me.

capricious, I will check out Calm. I have seen it in the stores. Thank you everyone for your help and suggestions. It just seems like something I have to work through and learn.

jennydoodle
06-06-2012, 03:13 PM
I bought them at Amazon. I want to try the lemon coconut next.

capricious
06-06-2012, 03:44 PM
In regards to the Simply Bars... In Canada I buy mine at my local Superstore. They are in the organic section with all the bars... My fave is the peanut butter chocolate, then the chocolate raspberry then lemon coconut...
Ishbel- those were some very kind words and they are deeply appreciated. I'm trying not to be too hard on myself for having let things escalate and am indeed very proud of the fact that I committed myself to Phase 1 (it's day 6!) sooner rather than later. It was rewarding to slip into my jeans this morning and have them at least resemble how they used to fit :D
All the better if you're a cheap date now! You'll definitely commit more to the water and not letting things get too out of hand. Vodka soda with lemon or lime is usually what I get but I can't see rum being that terrible provided you're not mixing it with something too sweet. Wine is also good because it tends to be more of a 'sipping' drink rather than a slurping one...
Mom2cs- it cracks me up when people (usually male relations) take a guess at my weight and come out with numbers like 100#'s or 120. The ladies are much better at it but most will still underestimate (woohoo!). And really you're right where you're 'supposed' to be. It's about 5 pounds for every inch over 100... and you're muscular to boot...
Sunnymae- it's good to hear from you! Glad your reboot is on track but sorry to hear of your health issues... I'll have to scoot over to the reboot thread to catch up there...
PurpleSky- Definitely take a look at your supplements. When you're craving something or can't get enough of something it's usually a deficiency or a sensitivity. Seeing as you've already figured that you're sensitive to many of the ingredients in the bars maybe you can deal with the craving aspect through the use of supplements... I'm pretty sure the link I attached in my previous post mentions at the bottom what you're likely to be deficient in depending on your craving (I know for sure if it's chocolate you're craving it's a magnesium deficiency).
They also suggest what you can eat to help with your cravings... even though the foods seem far and away from what it is your craving. When craving chocolate what you really need to eat is beans??? But it's worth checking out and trying rather than dealing with the psychological stress... because that stress is nasty and it will bite you every time...
Here's another link about this...
http://www.dailytransformations.com/2011/05/05/food-cravings-here-is-what-your-body-really-wants/

Pamelama
06-06-2012, 04:14 PM
I have to go on steroids for an MS exacerbation... it will be a five day treatment but isn't i/v solu medrol which is a good thing...Steroids caused my weight to go up beginning in 2004 when I was diagnosed. Hopefully being on IP will help me keep my weight in check...I know I'll get puffy and "nasty" looking... :( but hopefully I can resist the urge to splurge...steroids (for me anyway) increase my appetite...

Has anyone else gone on steroids since being on iP?

I've had to go on Pednisone 2x during my 18 weeks in Phase 1. As you probably know, steroids do a number on your insulin/blood sugar without even trying. I dont get unusually puffy, just hungry. I had an extra pack of IP chocolat pudding/smoothie when I was on it. Kept me on program and seemed to curb hunger. I did lose some weight too (although it was less than my usual) but once it was done, the weight started coming off again.

Hope that helps. Good luck!

Pam

purple sky
06-06-2012, 04:35 PM
Thank you Capricous. I did not understand at first since I do not crave nuts. But, I will pick up some at the store. And I will order that Calm soon. Much better than feeling like a crackhead. Thank you. Thank you. I actually feel better already.

Simply Bar - I like the Cinnamon&Pecan the best. But it is also the plainest tasting bar. Best meal replacement to me. (less dessert like) Also like Lemon&Coconut and Peanut Butter&Chocolate. The Cocoa&Coffee tasted too much like ground coffee beans to me. Not like chocolate covered espresso beans.

Looks like they reformulated. as I did not order the Peanut Butter&Chocolate last time because I thought it was higher in carbs and sugar. Goodie, I will get that next time.

Their nutritional info for those interested
http://www.thesimplybar.com/documents/SpecSheet.pdf

I like this company. I like them very much.

jennydoodle
06-06-2012, 04:52 PM
GREAT article:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/242516-Heart-Surgeon-Speaks-Out-On-What-Really-Causes-Heart-Disease#.T89sAIWYDAI.mailto

capricious
06-07-2012, 12:00 PM
Well another weekend is about to land and I am finishing up day 7 of Phase 1- tomorrow it will be one whole week :).
Am super happy this morning as a pair of my jeans that I couldn't button last week are buttoned and looking good! Yay!!!!!! There is no better reward!
I know that there are quite a few people who are hitting Phase 3 right now... And I hope that you will post... Because for a thread to be vibrant & alive it needs participation. The more of us there are together in maintenance the more support and ergo success we can provide to each other. I know that just starting is different than when you get down the road a bit but really we're all in the same boat of trying to keep ourselves on top of the maintenance ball. To reach maintenance you need to have been successful at the weight loss phase and I know for me a huge part of my success in losing was the support & advice & ideas I received on this site. It makes sense that in the never ending war of maintenance that same criteria will help to pull us through...

jennydoodle
06-07-2012, 12:21 PM
I agree Cap. I may not be as active on here as I was during the weight loss phase, but coming here certainly keeps me accountable and helps in maintaining my losses. We are in this together and helping each other out means we can all be successful at keeping our weight off. And sometimes I feel just as confused or frustrated as I did in the beginning, so we are all really in the same boat. It is really all about finding YOUR way of living from this point on. Things that work for me, may not work for others and vice versa. But we can all support each other in our quest to maintain.

Congrats on 7 days of P1. Having recently done a reboot, I know how hard that is! ;)

A modified P3/P4 is pretty much my standard way of eating these days. I don't eat the grain in the morning, only the fruit. It seems like grains of all sorts (even oats & rice) do not react well in my body. I haven't really done the CSP diet trial, but I have not had ANY kind of grain in the past couple of weeks and I have not had any scale issues. Plus I look and feel lean (not bloated).

I have been having fruit with bfast, I have upped my fat intake (added in more nuts), cut out majority of the packets, and occasionally have beans, corn or potato in the evening. All of this seems to be keeping me in my happy place. Of course with the weekends comes more dining out, cocktails etc... so the sugar and salt usually get me.

I think there was some discussion on here about alcohol putting on "weight" and I am definitely one of those people. Of course I like the sweeter drinks (mojito's anyone?) so the sugars get me. Thankfully, I don't really drink too often, so I usually just order what I like.

Ishbel
06-07-2012, 12:59 PM
Well another weekend is about to land and I am finishing up day 7 of Phase 1- tomorrow it will be one whole week :).
Am super happy this morning as a pair of my jeans that I couldn't button last week are buttoned and looking good! Yay!!!!!! There is no better reward!
I know that there are quite a few people who are hitting Phase 3 right now... And I hope that you will post... Because for a thread to be vibrant & alive it needs participation. The more of us there are together in maintenance the more support and ergo success we can provide to each other. I know that just starting is different than when you get down the road a bit but really we're all in the same boat of trying to keep ourselves on top of the maintenance ball. To reach maintenance you need to have been successful at the weight loss phase and I know for me a huge part of my success in losing was the support & advice & ideas I received on this site. It makes sense that in the never ending war of maintenance that same criteria will help to pull us through...

WOOT WOOT for buttoning up jeans. 7 Days, wow...are you going to phase back in? How long are you hanging out there? I agree, 3FChicks is the place to be, I'm always lurking cap so I'm always here. Post away and I'll respond! lol I really like reading and sometimes responding in the 100% because they manage to keep me in line in maintenance....that and they said they wouldn't kick me out. lol

I agree Cap. I may not be as active on here as I was during the weight loss phase, but coming here certainly keeps me accountable and helps in maintaining my losses. We are in this together and helping each other out means we can all be successful at keeping our weight off. And sometimes I feel just as confused or frustrated as I did in the beginning, so we are all really in the same boat. It is really all about finding YOUR way of living from this point on. Things that work for me, may not work for others and vice versa. But we can all support each other in our quest to maintain.

Congrats on 7 days of P1. Having recently done a reboot, I know how hard that is! ;)

A modified P3/P4 is pretty much my standard way of eating these days. I don't eat the grain in the morning, only the fruit. It seems like grains of all sorts (even oats & rice) do not react well in my body. I haven't really done the CSP diet trial, but I have not had ANY kind of grain in the past couple of weeks and I have not had any scale issues. Plus I look and feel lean (not bloated).

I have been having fruit with bfast, I have upped my fat intake (added in more nuts), cut out majority of the packets, and occasionally have beans, corn or potato in the evening. All of this seems to be keeping me in my happy place. Of course with the weekends comes more dining out, cocktails etc... so the sugar and salt usually get me.

I think there was some discussion on here about alcohol putting on "weight" and I am definitely one of those people. Of course I like the sweeter drinks (mojito's anyone?) so the sugars get me. Thankfully, I don't really drink too often, so I usually just order what I like.

I'm concerned that booze will give me some trouble, but I don't generally drink. I used to be the PARTAY GURL, then I met the VIP and well, I have other things to occupy my time now ;)

I was pleasantly surprised this morning on the scale and I feel more in control now (we'll see how I feel tomorrow! lol). It's a mental game but I know with my meal plan for the week, really helped me and I think it shows on the scale (interesting differences between yesterday morning and today though).

How often do you guys weigh yourselves, do you still have an 'offical' weigh in day (I'm assuming you're doing it at home in the morning nekid)? My usual weigh in day is on Wednesday at 4:45 (during PH1) but now it's morning (nekid and after the loo) but I think I'm moving it to Saturday morning the day of my 'fun day'. Do you keep any of your profile updated with what your weekly weigh in is still or is it now just too private for you? Still debating how I'm going to handle that.

I'm also in TOPS (take off pounds sensibly) so I have a WI with them on Wednesday's after supper. And I've already taken a hit for my meal (I eat before I weigh in) and my jeans (I'm not nekid) so my goal with them is different then my goal on here.

I feel more comfortable a few lbs lower then my goal...which during PH 1 I was thinking I'd be ok with 3-4 over...but I can already tell I'm more mentally prepared 2-4 lower.

purple sky
06-07-2012, 01:09 PM
GREAT article:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/242516-Heart-Surgeon-Speaks-Out-On-What-Really-Causes-Heart-Disease#.T89sAIWYDAI.mailto

Awesome article. This is the best explanation I have seen on diabetes and inflammation and heart disease. I knew eating processed foods was not a good idea but I never knew how bad. This motivates me even more to move towards Whole Foods (hunh, leaving it in caps looks like I am pushing Whole Paycheck but really I am not)

I wonder if that bad feeling we get after over eating or eating junky foods is our insulin freaking out.

Saw 123.4 on the scale yesterday. Cracked me up.

capricious - Will you just jump back to P4 once you are done with this mini-P1?
I tried the CALM yesterday. And nuts too. They are not a substitute for chocolate. Really. But I will try for a bit.

CassiR
06-07-2012, 01:42 PM
Saw 123.4 on the scale yesterday. Cracked me up.

Woo hoo!! Go you!

I'm still in p1 (or trying to be) to get vacation weight off. I got back down to 123 after a few days and then fell off the wagon. I'm finding it hard to stick to it this time around. Twice now I've sabatoged myself. I just don't ever feel good in phase 1. But i'm trying and yesterday was a successful 100% p1 day. I hope to say the same tomorrow. I'm now at 124 which is only 2 lbs higher than pre-vacation weight. I hope to get below 120 though so I can settle in at 120 when I phase out again. I have a WI/meeting with my coach next Tue so I hope to be there or close by then. The pounds really do melt off as long as I stick to my phase 1. Oh well. I'll get there!
I may do what purple is doing when I meet goal again and stick to p3 until i'm more comfortable with adding in p4 items. I dont know. Maintenance is hard for me. I felt like having more snacks made me want to eat more and more. We'll see!

Also, the bars are evil.

Have a great day everyone!

CassiR
06-07-2012, 01:46 PM
Well another weekend is about to land and I am finishing up day 7 of Phase 1- tomorrow it will be one whole week :).
Am super happy this morning as a pair of my jeans that I couldn't button last week are buttoned and looking good! Yay!!!!!! There is no better reward!
I know that there are quite a few people who are hitting Phase 3 right now... And I hope that you will post... Because for a thread to be vibrant & alive it needs participation. The more of us there are together in maintenance the more support and ergo success we can provide to each other. I know that just starting is different than when you get down the road a bit but really we're all in the same boat of trying to keep ourselves on top of the maintenance ball. To reach maintenance you need to have been successful at the weight loss phase and I know for me a huge part of my success in losing was the support & advice & ideas I received on this site. It makes sense that in the never ending war of maintenance that same criteria will help to pull us through...

Congrats cap. A full week of p1 is amazing. I'm having a hard time with that. I can go a few days, and then I sabatoge myself. I'm hoping to stay in p1 until WI on Tuesday. I'm 4 lbs from goal so far. Thanks for the inspiration :)

New Englander
06-07-2012, 03:15 PM
Well another weekend is about to land and I am finishing up day 7 of Phase 1- tomorrow it will be one whole week :).
Am super happy this morning as a pair of my jeans that I couldn't button last week are buttoned and looking good! Yay!!!!!! There is no better reward!
I know that there are quite a few people who are hitting Phase 3 right now... And I hope that you will post... Because for a thread to be vibrant & alive it needs participation. The more of us there are together in maintenance the more support and ergo success we can provide to each other. I know that just starting is different than when you get down the road a bit but really we're all in the same boat of trying to keep ourselves on top of the maintenance ball. To reach maintenance you need to have been successful at the weight loss phase and I know for me a huge part of my success in losing was the support & advice & ideas I received on this site. It makes sense that in the never ending war of maintenance that same criteria will help to pull us through...
Good for you Cap. It's so great to know how to get back on track and down to a desirable size. I know I can easily get down and feel in control which is a great feeling! Thanks for sharing your inspirational success story!

New Englander
06-07-2012, 03:19 PM
The steroids I'm on are increasing my appetite...yesterday (not a cheat day) I indulged in three tbsp of Nutella...so today I went back to P1...I am weighing myself daily and know temporary weight gain will happen. The difference is now I know how to control my weight with IP and I feel in control. I think I'll forgo a crazy cheat day until I'm done with treatment.

I seriously don't expect to let this bought of treatment to balloon me back up. I have the tools I need to keep my weight in check!!!

Thanks for listening and being there!!! <3

Busymomx4
06-07-2012, 03:22 PM
Hi maintainers, i'll get the priviledge of joining you shortly :) Made goal last week and am in my first week of phase 2 which i hate with a passion as it was much easier to grab a packet for lunch AND i'm up almost 1lb...figured it would happen to me to be the only one to gain on phase 2..sigh...

I have phase 3 and 4 figured out though as I coached my dh through them since march and he's still 5lbs below goal so i must've taught him right :)

You're all doing awsome and see you soon :)

capricious
06-07-2012, 05:35 PM
Jennydoodle- I'm just glad that you're around as much as you are!! I've found that when one of us is down and another is doing well it is so helpful to just try and emulate what they're doing... and eventually I can find my way back to the 'path'...
I really was enjoying testing out the CSP... made it into the second week and wasn't having any reactions... was slowly and steadily losing... but without exercise I think my overall energy equation (cals in vs. cals out) wasn't enough to get me back in my jeans quite as quickly as I wanted... Ahhh Patience. Still working on that one :)
I'm a sucker for a Pina Colada but the only time I let myself have them was when I was in Hawaii... and I sure did enjoy them... but I try to stick with low cal/ low carb drinks cause I do like to dance now and again ;) And the two go hand in hand...
Ishbel- I have to admit that after you talked about being in the 100% page to help you out with phase 1 days... I started stalking it... It is a helpful reminder that my seven days is but a pittance. And such a great reminder to stay strong in the face of cravings, self doubt and diet weariness. Because there is a tremendous payoff to be had. Self confidence, self efficacy and determination. I really do believe these returns to Phase 1 in maintenance (be it the one day a week or a reboot) bring it all back. The work ethic and the focus and the determination. To be the masters of ourselves. (Super duper cheesy but true...:D) Guess I'm an old fashioned kind of girl who believes nothing worth having is going to come easy... and maintenance constantly proves this to me...
There's been a lot of discussion re the scale issue (please refer to the reboot page if you'd like to see it)... definitely to each their own... If once a week works for you and keeps you on track great, bi weekly is what I will be aiming for after I'm done this run of Phase 1... Enough to have an honest reminder of where I stand- without driving myself crrrrazzzzzy ;)
Getting a couple pounds under goal then not wanting the scale to go up and just keep it there is totally normal. All of the sudden your goal weight changes from x amount to x-3. It's addictive a bit seeing a lower #...
Cassi- Thank you for posting in here! I can honestly pinpoint my Hawaiin vacation as a turning point in maintenance. Without the scale, no internet to track, it was up to me to follow as best I could. And I thought I did. Til I came home and had an extra 2 pounds on me that I never did manage to get rid of. My mentality changed...
All I can say is get back on Phase 1 and recommit to it. Bloody well easier said than done but it's vital. Because it really is all a head game... And when you tell yourself that you are going to make it to x weight on Phase 1 or that you are going to spend x amount of weeks on Phase 1 and you follow through on that you will trust yourself again. Good old self efficacy. Number one quality in maintenance. Keep your promises to yourself.
You were worth it to lose the weight. You're worth it to keep it off!! It's one looong day at a time but hey you can join me in stalking the 100% thread!
BusyMom- I HATED Phase 2. My ultimate nemesis that one. The only time that I didn't lose in the whole course of the program was first week of Phase 2. It was less convenient. It was less tasty. Yep, definitely could have ditched that Phase altogether and would've been happier for it. My second week I did pull off a loss by having either eggs or fish as my protein. Boring but it worked. And with your big loss from last week your body is probably evening out a bit. I would completely expect to see a loss next week!
PurpleSky- No, I wouldn't expect that nuts will satisfy a chocolate craving- body says I want something sweet and you're giving me savory- but you're right- the hope is that with time the nuts will indeed usurp the chocolate cravings... might just take awhile...
NewEnglander- You sound like you're dealing with your bout of steroids pretty well all things considered... And you're very right in that if you do bloat or gain due to excess appetite Phase 1 awaits... Your sweet tooth sounds as bad as mine! You could try making your own nutella... if you have a food processor it's fairly simple and it would be an OP snack as it's just nuts and cocoa... But that might be a bad idea... cause if you're anything like me what you make always tastes better than what you buy and it's harder to stop...

jennydoodle
06-07-2012, 05:39 PM
How often do you guys weigh yourselves, do you still have an 'offical' weigh in day (I'm assuming you're doing it at home in the morning nekid)? My usual weigh in day is on Wednesday at 4:45 (during PH1) but now it's morning (nekid and after the loo) but I think I'm moving it to Saturday morning the day of my 'fun day'. Do you keep any of your profile updated with what your weekly weigh in is still or is it now just too private for you? Still debating how I'm going to handle that.



I weight 2x per week. I have found that to be a nice happy medium. I weigh on Sat. morning before the weekend begins and on T/W/R (one of those days) to get a mid week check to make sure I am back on track before the next weekend begins. As long as I am hanging around my original goal of 135, I do not change my profile and do not update any weigh ins. IF I were to gain, say 10# and go back on P1 full blown, I would change it then. But I have always been in and around 135 so to me I am at my maintenance weight.

jennydoodle
06-07-2012, 05:40 PM
Hi maintainers, i'll get the priviledge of joining you shortly :) Made goal last week and am in my first week of phase 2 which i hate with a passion as it was much easier to grab a packet for lunch AND i'm up almost 1lb...figured it would happen to me to be the only one to gain on phase 2..sigh...

I have phase 3 and 4 figured out though as I coached my dh through them since march and he's still 5lbs below goal so i must've taught him right :)

You're all doing awsome and see you soon :)

I gained in P2 too. You are not alone. Welcome to Maintenance (well, almost!). Now the real work begins ;)

jennydoodle
06-07-2012, 05:52 PM
And yes, seeing that "all time low #" is extremely addictive and you will spend lots of time and energy hoping to see it again. Believe me, I was there.

I have seen my all time low, once and only once, and I am now beyond trying to get there again. Because, quite frankly, I am still wearing the same clothes, same size etc... as I was when I saw 131.8. Absolutely nothing has changed, except the number on the scale. I have moved on and accepted seeing 134-136 as my normal weight. And I also have no desire to be on P1 for any longer than a day or 2 just to see that number again.

purple sky
06-07-2012, 06:19 PM
I remember some did not like P2. I was used to eating like one egg or a small amt of chicken at lunch so I just increased the amt. and ditched the packet. I very much enjoyed P3, so I basically stayed in it. Works for me. I got a little lazy during P2 though and for some reason the decrease in the structure lead me to 2 restricted sometimes. P2 and P3 are different for everyone. They tell you to expect a gain but some lose. I found that I preferred something light like eggs for lunch. The meat just tasted too heavy for me at lunch.

GoodEatsandWine
06-07-2012, 08:02 PM
Hi everyone! I've been out of the loop the past couple days...weeks?? Just enjoying the summer and life :)

Thank you Capricous. I did not understand at first since I do not crave nuts. But, I will pick up some at the store. And I will order that Calm soon. Much better than feeling like a crackhead. Thank you. Thank you. I actually feel better already.

Simply Bar - I like the Cinnamon&Pecan the best. But it is also the plainest tasting bar. Best meal replacement to me. (less dessert like) Also like Lemon&Coconut and Peanut Butter&Chocolate. The Cocoa&Coffee tasted too much like ground coffee beans to me. Not like chocolate covered espresso beans.

Looks like they reformulated. as I did not order the Peanut Butter&Chocolate last time because I thought it was higher in carbs and sugar. Goodie, I will get that next time.

Their nutritional info for those interested
http://www.thesimplybar.com/documents/SpecSheet.pdf

I like this company. I like them very much.

I read back on the thread and it looks like you're struggling with snacks; what to eat and what's satisfying, etc. After reading the Carb Sensitivety Program, there's a Carb Sensitivity shake recipe in there that almost seems so simple you wouldn't think it would be very good but to me it's quite tasty and very satisfying! I make it everyday sometimes twice a day (midmorning and afternoon snacks). Here's how I make it:

1 scoop whey protein vanilla flavored (I use Jay Robb Whey Protein)
1 tbsp chia seeds
1/4 tsp vanilla powder (sundried vanilla bean)
1/4 tsp cinnamon
1/2 cup water
1/2 cup almond milk
1 tbsp almond butter

I put chia seeds in a glass with the water and almond milk; stir and let it sit for at least 15 minutes. A gel will form in the liquid to make the shake thicker.
If I'm at home, I put all the ingredients in a blender with 5 ice cubes. Blend until smooth and pour back into the glass and drink.
If I'm at work, I put all the ingredients in my IP shaker cup w/o ice cubes and shake and drink.

I no longer use my IP products for any snacks...except for my bedtime snack, I still make banana pudding waffles!

capricious
06-08-2012, 12:46 PM
Love that shake GoodEats&Wine! You're right it is filling and satisfying with perfect mix of fats/ carbs/ protein... And how the heck do you make banana waffles? Those sound great!
I am set to WI in on Monday at my clinic. Will change my stats based on the results of that. I'm committed to another week of Phase 1. Although I haven't been weighing myself I want more room in my clothes before I jump off Phase 1. Not sure how to proceed with the rundown of the phases from that point.
Mom2cs- do you still do Phase 1 throughout the week then relax a bit on the weekends? Did you go through the rundown or...?

Maile
06-08-2012, 12:51 PM
Hi everyone I do not have Internet access so I rely on Starbucks. Which does not always work.
I like that shake!
I am at my lowest. It has to do with stress and being busy, i am adding high fat foods to go up a few pounds.
Jenny. What great article.

Cap way to go on phase 1.

Hopefully things will settle down. Have a great day everyone.

Ishbel
06-08-2012, 12:58 PM
Hi maintainers, i'll get the priviledge of joining you shortly :) Made goal last week and am in my first week of phase 2 which i hate with a passion as it was much easier to grab a packet for lunch AND i'm up almost 1lb...figured it would happen to me to be the only one to gain on phase 2..sigh...

I have phase 3 and 4 figured out though as I coached my dh through them since march and he's still 5lbs below goal so i must've taught him right :)

You're all doing awsome and see you soon :)

WOOT WOOT! :)

Love that shake GoodEats&Wine! You're right it is filling and satisfying with perfect mix of fats/ carbs/ protein... And how the heck do you make banana waffles? Those sound great!
I am set to WI in on Monday at my clinic. Will change my stats based on the results of that. I'm committed to another week of Phase 1. Although I haven't been weighing myself I want more room in my clothes before I jump off Phase 1. Not sure how to proceed with the rundown of the phases from that point.
Mom2cs- do you still do Phase 1 throughout the week then relax a bit on the weekends? Did you go through the rundown or...?

cap I don't know what anyone else will add, but if I'm on it for longer then 5 days I'll be doing a mini phase off again. So two weeks, I'd do a few days of phase 2 and then into your phase 3 for a few days and then your normal phase 4 plan...

Just my humble opinion based on my conversations with my coach and my coachs coach...

Maile - thinking of you

So I found the simply bars in two places in my city, tried one last night thought it was good. Gave two to my VIP to have for breakfast (he's not a big breakfast guy) he was going to take them ALL and I was like "WAIT A SEC, you can have two to try!" lol

Wearing a spring dress to work for the FIRST time E-V-E-R, it's confused a few people as I'm usually in jeans and a blouse lol. I think I'm turning into a girly girl.

capricious
06-08-2012, 01:08 PM
Maile- I know the feeling too well of being away and cut off from internet. Glad you're still thinking of us! Once life returns to a more normal routine your weight is sure to follow... but so sorry to hear that it's been so hectic for you...

Ishbel- So hoping that I can just do a mini run thru the phases and not the full blown 2 weeks of each. I don't want to skimp on what's needed but if it's not needed I sure could do without it :) I don't mind following it during the week but I did get rather used to having an a day where I could have a glass of wine with my husband & friends...
Hopefully the VIP likes the bars. They're a great breakfast item as they're tasty, light and have such a great balance of nutrients.
Way to go for shaking it up and breaking out a dress! It's that time!

CassiR
06-08-2012, 01:54 PM
Cassi- Thank you for posting in here! I can honestly pinpoint my Hawaiin vacation as a turning point in maintenance. Without the scale, no internet to track, it was up to me to follow as best I could. And I thought I did. Til I came home and had an extra 2 pounds on me that I never did manage to get rid of. My mentality changed...
All I can say is get back on Phase 1 and recommit to it. Bloody well easier said than done but it's vital. Because it really is all a head game... And when you tell yourself that you are going to make it to x weight on Phase 1 or that you are going to spend x amount of weeks on Phase 1 and you follow through on that you will trust yourself again. Good old self efficacy. Number one quality in maintenance. Keep your promises to yourself.
You were worth it to lose the weight. You're worth it to keep it off!! It's one looong day at a time but hey you can join me in stalking the 100% thread!


Yes, thank you. I am commiting to it until TUE at my WI with my coach. Then we will see how low it's gotten. 2 full days 100% so far. The scale didn't move when I checked this morning but I'm thinking it's because of "C". Another reason why I hate p1. Big C problems. But I need to be thankful for it being there to lean on. I'm hoping to push through the weekend and get these last few pounds off. I need to keep the promise to myself like you said. My skinny jeans are still tight and hate that feeling. At least they still fit, 4 lbs past my goal weight.

Keep up the good work ladies and have a great weekend! :)

GoodEatsandWine
06-08-2012, 02:01 PM
Love that shake GoodEats&Wine! You're right it is filling and satisfying with perfect mix of fats/ carbs/ protein... And how the heck do you make banana waffles? Those sound great!
I am set to WI in on Monday at my clinic. Will change my stats based on the results of that. I'm committed to another week of Phase 1. Although I haven't been weighing myself I want more room in my clothes before I jump off Phase 1. Not sure how to proceed with the rundown of the phases from that point.
Mom2cs- do you still do Phase 1 throughout the week then relax a bit on the weekends? Did you go through the rundown or...?

The IP banana pudding waffles were such a godsend after being 100% on IP for a couple months and really missing the texture of something bread-like. We've made them nearly every night since finding the recipe, even in Phase 4! Here's how I make them (there are different recipes out there):

Ingredients:
IP Banana Pudding packet (you can use other flavors but this is our favorite)
2 egg whites
1/8 cup water
pinch of cinnamon, vanilla powder, salt & baking powder
sometimes I also add 1/4 tsp coconut oil

1. Heat up your waffle iron then gather all your ingredients;
2. In a small bowl, whip the egg whites and salt until frothy; I usually count to 40 and they are perfect;
3. Add the pinch of cinnamon, vanilla powder, baking powder and banana pudding packet and fold in; it will be very thick and sticky;
4. Add the water and keep folding in; the mix will still be pretty thick but it will be less sticky;
5. Spray the waffle iron with coconut non-stick cooking spray; in about four different scoops of the mixture, place them around the center of the waffle iron, they'll be touching each other. This helps them spread out so you have a wider waffle (bigger is better, right?)
6. They usually take about 3 minutes to cook, I've tried them in two different waffle irons and 3 minutes seems to be the magic number;
7. When it's done, put it on a plate and eat with Walden Farms pancake syrup. Enjoy!

Ishbel
06-08-2012, 02:06 PM
GoodEatsandWine I actually said to the computer "HOLY CRAP" when I saw your hubby's first WI (has it always been there and I've missed it?!!) That is FABULOUS and the highest first WI I've seen...WOWZA!!

WAY TO GO HUBBY!!

New Englander
06-08-2012, 02:14 PM
And yes, seeing that "all time low #" is extremely addictive and you will spend lots of time and energy hoping to see it again. Believe me, I was there.

I have seen my all time low, once and only once, and I am now beyond trying to get there again. Because, quite frankly, I am still wearing the same clothes, same size etc... as I was when I saw 131.8. Absolutely nothing has changed, except the number on the scale. I have moved on and accepted seeing 134-136 as my normal weight. And I also have no desire to be on P1 for any longer than a day or 2 just to see that number again.
I was thinking the same regarding scale # vs. size.... I've only been in maintenance a month and 1/2 BUT haven't been at my lowest BUT my size hasn't changed one bit! I'd still like a little wiggle room (just in case) so I will get back down to the lower # but if I don't it's not the end of the world...This maintenance is like a puzzle...sort of a fun puzzle when you figure it out.. :) You're doing great!

GoodEatsandWine
06-08-2012, 02:33 PM
GoodEatsandWine I actually said to the computer "HOLY CRAP" when I saw your hubby's first WI (has it always been there and I've missed it?!!) That is FABULOUS and the highest first WI I've seen...WOWZA!!

WAY TO GO HUBBY!!

Thanks Ishbel! The listed WI's have been there ever since I was able to add my ticker but since then I forgot how to add or edit the ticker info so I haven't added other WI info. He had amazing losses during Phase 1 but that first one was especially incredible! He lost a total of 103 lbs in 4 months! He always felt fine, not weak or tired and no cravings. However, every once in a while he would mention how he missed having popcorn on the weekends while watching a movie. I had slow steady losses, towards the end I had losses of 1 pound or less, but I didn't have much to lose and I felt like the weight loss would last longer if I lost slower; besides, since he was still on the diet, it was just as well that I eat the same things he was. Now that we're in maintenance we don't really have cheat days because we really like the fresh veggies, fruit and quality cuts of meat, fish/seafood and poultry. When we want something a little extra we'll add nuts or cheese to our salad. We eat very little bread or pasta now and that seems to help us maintain our losses as well.

Ishbel
06-08-2012, 02:43 PM
Thanks Ishbel! The listed WI's have been there ever since I was able to add my ticker but since then I forgot how to add or edit the ticker info so I haven't added other WI info. He had amazing losses during Phase 1 but that first one was especially incredible! He lost a total of 103 lbs in 4 months! He always felt fine, not weak or tired and no cravings. However, every once in a while he would mention how he missed having popcorn on the weekends while watching a movie. I had slow steady losses, towards the end I losses of 1 pound or less, but I didn't have much to lose and I felt like the weight loss would last longer if I lost slower; besides, since he was still on the diet, it was just as well that I eat the same things he was. Now that we're in maintenance we don't really have cheat days because we really like the fresh veggies, fruit and quality cuts of meat, fish/seafood and poultry. When we want something a little extra we'll add nuts or cheese to our salad. We eat very little bread or pasta now and that seems to help us maintain our losses as well.

HOLY CRAP (AH-GAIN) wish I could have lost it that fast LOL. Although, re-thinking that, there's a reason it took me a year...and in the end I'm ok with that (cause really, I have no real choice in the matter). But I'm going to tell the VIP that!! He wants to lose 30-40 lbs but can't get his head wrapped around the amount of veggies that I eat (and still do)...;)

purple sky
06-08-2012, 03:08 PM
Over 100 lbs in 4 months. That's amazing. DH is past 80 now but he still wants to keep going, part of why I am staying largely in P3.

I realized that with our combined weight loss we are about to lose me. That's weird but cool. We will have lost a person when done.

Thank you so much, GoodEatsandWine for the shake. I saw this last night and was like yum. I am going to give it a try. Can I ask what vanilla powder is? I was just going to use vanilla stevia.

purple sky
06-08-2012, 03:14 PM
Yes, thank you. I am commiting to it until TUE at my WI with my coach. Then we will see how low it's gotten. 2 full days 100% so far. The scale didn't move when I checked this morning but I'm thinking it's because of "C". Another reason why I hate p1. Big C problems. But I need to be thankful for it being there to lean on. I'm hoping to push through the weekend and get these last few pounds off. I need to keep the promise to myself like you said. My skinny jeans are still tight and hate that feeling. At least they still fit, 4 lbs past my goal weight.

Keep up the good work ladies and have a great weekend! :)

CassiR, I use slippery elm. It has helped a lot. I forgot to take it a few times and things were not good.

I cannot use items like Smooth Move tea because it overworks for me but slippery elm helped me.

GoodEatsandWine
06-08-2012, 03:55 PM
Over 100 lbs in 4 months. That's amazing. DH is past 80 now but he still wants to keep going, part of why I am staying largely in P3.

I realized that with our combined weight loss we are about to lose me. That's weird but cool. We will have lost a person when done.

Thank you so much, GoodEatsandWine for the shake. I saw this last night and was like yum. I am going to give it a try. Can I ask what vanilla powder is? I was just going to use vanilla stevia.

I'm amazed how fast men can lose weight! I hear it all the time but still find it surprising!

Definitely give the shake a try! The vanilla powder is vanilla bean that is scraped out of pods, sundried and then packaged in a jar for sale. It's not easy to find...at least it isn't here in Alaska but there is a lot I can't find here :) Anyway, it's just for flavoring, which is wonderful if you get the chance to use it. Way better than vanilla extract. Try it with the vanilla stevia or sugar-free Torani or Divinci syrups. I made a shake using almond SF Torani syrup and another one using the peanut butter SF Tornai syrup and loved both!! You'll be shocked how satisfying they are too!

capricious
06-08-2012, 09:05 PM
GoodEats- You rock!!!!! They look like waffles, taste like waffles soooo much better than the pudding cakes and I always thought those were the best. Thank you, thank you for sharing!
Cassi- you can do it! Four more days and you'll be fitting in those jeans just right! I hate the big c factor of Phase 1 as well. I've been using CALM and it helps but... Things are not the same as when not on Phase 1 ;)

capricious
06-08-2012, 10:45 PM
GoodEats- You rock!!!!! They look like waffles, taste like waffles soooo much better than the pudding cakes and I always thought those were the best. Thank you, thank you for sharing!
Cassi- you can do it! Four more days and you'll be fitting in those jeans just right! I hate the big c factor of Phase 1 as well. I've been using CALM and it helps but... Things are not the same as when not on Phase 1 ;)

MaggieD
06-09-2012, 12:42 AM
Hi, Maintainers! As of today, I am now one of you. I'm reading through some of the archives trying to pick up tips. I am very scared of my dinner meals and adding back carbs. I admire each of you for your continued success!

sunnymae
06-09-2012, 11:08 AM
Hi, Maintainers! As of today, I am now one of you. I'm reading through some of the archives trying to pick up tips. I am very scared of my dinner meals and adding back carbs. I admire each of you for your continued success!
Hey MaggieD
Welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the place to be. We'll all help each other stay on track and share our tips, experiments and discoveries with you. It's a big ride and we're all getting the hang of it together.
Glad you're here and a huge congratulations to you :0)

sunnymae
06-09-2012, 11:19 AM
good morning maintainers

Just chiming in for the weekend and so glad to see all the usual suspects here and some new ones! Congratulations to all who enter :carrot:

I'm coming on two weeks of ph.1.2 and just starting to turn a corner in how I feel. I am limiting myself to once a week on the scale. I notice an urge to jump on as soon as I feel a little looser in the jeans, but for me...when I see progress at this early a stage it can be a trigger to cheat and go the other way. So...my instincts told me to do another week until I weigh in.It will have much more positive impact on me and be more encouraging to keep at it.
Still feeling tight in the jeans legs and abdomen, so I know there's another shift around the corner.

What I'm grateful for so far....turning this around before it turned ME away from myself and everything I've worked so hard for!
Now that's what this program and you guys have done for me!
I am hosting a big wedding at my home next weekend, which will be my 2 free days and then 2 more weeks back in the saddle before I go off to coach voice for a kids rock n roll camp in Va. The food will be very fresh and mostly organic there with lots of salads, so I'm not too worried about how that will go, plus I'll be running around teaching and keeping up with 19 little buggers....that'll burn some calories for sure!

OK...next report after WI on Monday. Have a great weekend everyone :smug:

patns
06-09-2012, 12:39 PM
Hi everyone! I've been out of the loop the past couple days...weeks?? Just enjoying the summer and life :)



I read back on the thread and it looks like you're struggling with snacks; what to eat and what's satisfying, etc. After reading the Carb Sensitivity Program, there's a Carb Sensitivity shake recipe in there that almost seems so simple you wouldn't think it would be very good but to me it's quite tasty and very satisfying! I make it everyday sometimes twice a day (midmorning and afternoon snacks). Here's how I make it:

1 scoop whey protein vanilla flavored (I use Jay Robb Whey Protein)
1 tbsp chia seeds
1/4 tsp vanilla powder (sundried vanilla bean)
1/4 tsp cinnamon
1/2 cup water
1/2 cup almond milk
1 tbsp almond butter

I put chia seeds in a glass with the water and almond milk; stir and let it sit for at least 15 minutes. A gel will form in the liquid to make the shake thicker.
If I'm at home, I put all the ingredients in a blender with 5 ice cubes. Blend until smooth and pour back into the glass and drink.
If I'm at work, I put all the ingredients in my IP shaker cup w/o ice cubes and shake and drink.

I no longer use my IP products for any snacks...except for my bedtime snack, I still make banana pudding waffles!



I was just coming to post about this shake. I got it from the CSP book too.
I use flaxseed instead of chia seeds, just because I didn't have chia seeds.

I have been reading a lot about Chia seeds and flaxseed lately and I think they are really onto something. I also put spinach in the shake.

In the book it is suggested to have two smaller shakes a day as snacks. I make one or two large ones and take them with me to work as all day I am on the run and am driving a lot. So I can have breakfast and lunch on the run.
I just got back from a week on the east coast. My 88 year old mother finally has had to accept that she has to go into assisted living but is very angry about it. She had heart issues and they would not release her to go home so she had to give in and go to a nursing home.

I was helping my siblings with her move and clearing out her condo so it was stressful and hectic.

I was staying at my sister's and made a big shake every morning. I tried to watch very carefully what I ate the rest of the day but had some fruit and even some chocolate and ate out most evenings.

I have been going up and down between 130-132 since the end of Feb. I have been stuck in size 10 pants no matter what I do because of my belly but kept going down on the waist so had a big gap with my pants around my waist.

I went to try on new pants while away, I tried size 8. They were so baggy in the butt I tought what the heck I will try size 6. They fit perfectly!

I always gain a few pounds while traveling so went to weigh myself with great trepidation this morning expecting to be up to 135. I had to get on the scale several times to believe it. I am 128!
This shake is amazing!
I will be back to read more posts, hubby is calling me to go. But I am so excited about this I had to post before I left.

Pat

capricious
06-09-2012, 12:46 PM
Welcome MaggieD!!!! A huge congrats on reaching maintenance!
It is pretty terrifying to start adding carbs back in... Best thing is to do it slowly and one at a time... See how you feel digestive wise after eating them and what reflects back on the scale the next day/ day after. Many find it easier not to have the carb every night and instead opt for every second. Depends totally on your sensitivities... Definitely a guess & test at this point but you'll figure it- it's just that it is a little scary while you're figuring ;)
Sunnymae- sounds like we're on the same regimen! It does feel great to have the clothes be getting looser but like you I definitely still want a bit more wiggle room. I'm staying off the scale as well except for once a week WI. Like you it's too easy to get comfortable and decide I can end Phase 1...
We have a dinner party on the 23 rd and I'd really like to be able to have a couple glasses of wine... Have to see how this Phase 1/ mini phase off tour goes first though... Here's hoping!
Had a horrible experience trying to make IP creeps this morning definitely too much liquid... So used my butterscotch pudding for waffles. They were very good but not as good as the banana...

capricious
06-09-2012, 12:51 PM
We were posting at the same time Patns. CONGRATS!!!!!! That is awesome news- so happy for you that you kept your weight so stable while traveling for a stressful reason! Not only that you lost a bit!
That shake is pretty amazing. Tasty, filling and oh so good for you!
Congrats again!

MaggieD
06-09-2012, 03:05 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome, sunnymae and capricious! I'm thrilled to be here. I know I will be turning to you all on this thread a lot over the next few weeks, er, months, etc as I figure maintenance out.

Here's a question for you: how critical is it that we still have a snack each day? I recently got braces on my teeth and have to waterpik and brush them after every time I eat. It doesn't sound like much, but believe me, with braces on, the brushing and flossing routine can take up to 20 minutes easy! So I only want to have 3 meals a day, no snacks. My coach says she wants me to have the snack at night and it should still be an IP product. Well, that just sounds like sales pitch to me. Any guidance from you expert and successful maintainers? TIA

MaggieD
06-09-2012, 03:11 PM
patns, I emphasize with you regarding your situation with your mother. My DH and I have been dealing with the same thing with his mother. After her stroke, he had to take over everything. Since she lived on the other side of the country, we eventually had to move her here into assisted living as the constant flights out there were exhausting. It is very stressful emotionally for sure. Congrats on the excellent job of staying focused and OP during a time when giving in to "comfort foods" is so easy. I wish the best for you and your mother.

purple sky
06-09-2012, 03:27 PM
I was just coming to post about this shake. I got it from the CSP book too.
I use flaxseed instead of chia seeds, just because I didn't have chia seeds.

I have been reading a lot about Chia seeds and flaxseed lately and I think they are really onto something. I also put spinach in the shake.

In the book it is suggested to have two smaller shakes a day as snacks. I make one or two large ones and take them with me to work as all day I am on the run and am driving a lot. So I can have breakfast and lunch on the run.
I just got back from a week on the east coast. My 88 year old mother finally has had to accept that she has to go into assisted living but is very angry about it. She had heart issues and they would not release her to go home so she had to give in and go to a nursing home.

I was helping my siblings with her move and clearing out her condo so it was stressful and hectic.

I was staying at my sister's and made a big shake every morning. I tried to watch very carefully what I ate the rest of the day but had some fruit and even some chocolate and ate out most evenings.

I have been going up and down between 130-132 since the end of Feb. I have been stuck in size 10 pants no matter what I do because of my belly but kept going down on the waist so had a big gap with my pants around my waist.

I went to try on new pants while away, I tried size 8. They were so baggy in the butt I tought what the heck I will try size 6. They fit perfectly!

I always gain a few pounds while traveling so went to weigh myself with great trepidation this morning expecting to be up to 135. I had to get on the scale several times to believe it. I am 128!
This shake is amazing!
I will be back to read more posts, hubby is calling me to go. But I am so excited about this I had to post before I left.

Pat

Yayyyyyyyy, patns. Size 6. I know the pant thing has been the most frustrating for you in this journey. I am so excited for you. So excited. It feels good to wear clothes that fit and flatter.

It is hard to encourage an independent grown up who has gotten used to their ways to trade that in. My father's lifestyle choices make us very uncomfortable but someone is with him now but it is not always feasible. He has a good life that works for him. Just that with ailing health, it's not realistic.

I started doing shakes about a week ago. I have been playing around with some sample packets and I found some protein shakes I like. It's my comfort zone as it use to be my breakfast staple before. I now use them in the afternoon. Great pick me up.

I seem to like cool creamy things. Like the puddings (which I have as back up) and morning greek yogurt and shakes. I am going to make GoodEats's shake and I also like your suggestions. Good way to get some extra veggies in. I have been blowing them off during the day recently.

purple sky
06-09-2012, 03:34 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome, sunnymae and capricious! I'm thrilled to be here. I know I will be turning to you all on this thread a lot over the next few weeks, er, months, etc as I figure maintenance out.

Here's a question for you: how critical is it that we still have a snack each day? I recently got braces on my teeth and have to waterpik and brush them after every time I eat. It doesn't sound like much, but believe me, with braces on, the brushing and flossing routine can take up to 20 minutes easy! So I only want to have 3 meals a day, no snacks. My coach says she wants me to have the snack at night and it should still be an IP product. Well, that just sounds like sales pitch to me. Any guidance from you expert and successful maintainers? TIA

Hi MaggieD. My personal suggestion would be to avoid the bars if you don't feel you want them or need them. P4 is much less structured and some of us have found that we overdo the bars.

If you want to have a snack, you can have something else. I don't know if they want you to keep using the IP product so you don't use something else like a real dessert or something. I think it was easier to use the IP product because it did not require any thinking or planning. But, there are other options. I am sure folks will be along to share.

lkp888
06-09-2012, 04:55 PM
Hi everyone, just wanted some advice. I'm 10 pounds away from my goal weight and my coach suggested that I might be able to move to Phase 2 next WI. Did everyone wait till they reached their goal weight before moving to phase 2 or move when they were 90% to their goal? Just wondering which would be better. Just wanted to say that all of you are doing so amazing and I can't wait to become part of this group!!! :) Have a great weekend everyone.

capricious
06-09-2012, 06:50 PM
Maggie- sorry to hear that eating is such a hassle for you right now. It sure does sound like a lot of rigamarole...
It's best for your body blood sugar/ hormone wise to be eating at least 4 times per day (within one hour of waking and about every 3 after that) preferably eating supper as your last meal. If you can have 3 hours between your last meal and bed that will also help...
You don't have to use an IP Product as your snack. However they are quite convenient and tasty. If you feel comfortable trading in the IP snack for whole foods such as nuts/ fruit/ yogurt these are a much better option. When first transitioning from Phase 3 to 4 it can be helpful to keep things simple. You already have a lot on your plate trying to adjust nutrients for breakfast/ lunch/ supper and trying to figure in snacks as well may be too much change all at once. It may have been subconscious for me but for my first months on maintenance that daily IP snack was a daily affirmation of the diet. Just helped to remind me of whence I came and where I did not want to go back... But that was me... And for everyone it's different...
Ikp888- I stayed on Phase 1 until I hit 3 pounds below goal. I stalled my first week of Phase 2. The brand new Phase 1 sheet I was given last week states that we stay on Phase 1 til we reach goal. And I have to agree. It's the quickest, more convenient and tastier way there. It's exciting to hit a new Phase but in my experience it's better to stick it out with Phase 1...

patns
06-09-2012, 07:07 PM
Hi everyone, just wanted some advice. I'm 10 pounds away from my goal weight and my coach suggested that I might be able to move to Phase 2 next WI. Did everyone wait till they reached their goal weight before moving to phase 2 or move when they were 90% to their goal? Just wondering which would be better. Just wanted to say that all of you are doing so amazing and I can't wait to become part of this group!!! :) Have a great weekend everyone.

Wow, I didn't recognize you! I thought, oh there's someone else from Vermilion on here now. You have done so well.
I would stick with phase 1 until you get to goal too. Everyone seems to have individual reactions to the different phases and I think it is much easier if you don't have to worry about needing to continue losing.

Pat

patns
06-09-2012, 07:28 PM
Thanks for all the cheers on my new size pants!
I still have more belly than I want but a lot less than I have. I'm not sure if that is because of the shake and the flaxseed or because of Dana's suggestion about collegan. I'm going to have to order more of that to be on the safe side though.

Pat

Determinedat47
06-09-2012, 08:45 PM
Hi everyone, just wanted some advice. I'm 10 pounds away from my goal weight and my coach suggested that I might be able to move to Phase 2 next WI. Did everyone wait till they reached their goal weight before moving to phase 2 or move when they were 90% to their goal? Just wondering which would be better. Just wanted to say that all of you are doing so amazing and I can't wait to become part of this group!!! :) Have a great weekend everyone.

I too recommend staying on phase 1 as long as possible! Truly, after you phase off, the really hard part begins. I do not want to sound as if your accomplishment of weight loss isn't awesome! It really is and it takes commitment and will power but once you phase off, for whatever reason, it is really hard to ever do pure phase 1 again ( not that it cannot be done, many have) my personal experience and as you can read here, the struggles of maintenance can be torture at times. Keep on trucking while you are in the groove and WAYTOGO!!!!

Determinedat47
06-09-2012, 08:56 PM
Thanks for all the cheers on my new size pants!
I still have more belly than I want but a lot less than I have. I'm not sure if that is because of the shake and the flaxseed or because of Dana's suggestion about collegan. I'm going to have to order more of that to be on the safe side though.

Pat

Pat, just wondering if you excersise? I have a heck of a time even getting a walk in 3-4 times a week. Maybe that is why I have such a difficult time with maintenance. I do not have a lot of options for classes, excersise buddies, etc.

capricious
06-09-2012, 10:00 PM
Determined- it's great to read a post from you! I was wondering about you and how your phase 1 was going... When do you leave for your trip?

CassiR
06-09-2012, 10:11 PM
Hey all, hope everyone's weekend is going well.
Still on p1 and doing well. Few more pounds and I'll be good to phase out again.

I also suggest going past your goal in phase 1. You may gain a couple while phasing out and getting back to phase 1 is pretty difficult.. It's nice to have that cushion :)

How many here exercise frequently, maybe 3-4x weekly? I seen some say they walk often. Just curious what others are doing. I'm doing spin class 2x week (40 mins per class) and was running a couple times a week on top of that. Now that I'm back in p1, I'm only doing the spin classes.

Determinedat47
06-09-2012, 10:12 PM
Determined- it's great to read a post from you! I was wondering about you and how your phase 1 was going... When do you leave for your trip?

Hanging in there- hard or next to impossible to do pure phase 1- I eat some nuts here-way too many ounces of meat, etc. Am feeling better but wish I could find the resolve that I had a year ago! We leave on the 19th for 10 days- will be fun but I really want to get these last 5-7 pounds off. Funny how much of a difference that much weight can make you feel. I admire how you are able to stay the course. Keep it going!

capricious
06-09-2012, 10:37 PM
Cassi- when I'm not on Phase 1 (and when my legs are cooperating) I try to do cardio 3-4x week and strength 2x. I do aerobics or running for cardio and take a class for the strength training... But I have to admit classes are something I enjoy... They don't feel like a chore to me ( though sometimes I question how I'm going to make it through 45 more minutes when I'm only thru the first 15 min of step ;)). It was kind of a step by step process though. I didn't exercise at all on Phase 1- I find it too draining and it tends to stall my losses as well. So, when I hit Phase 3 and had more energy and wasn't trying to lose anymore I started aiming for 30 min 3x week. Did well with that then read that most successful maintainers average at least 250 minutes a week. It is supposed to give more of a cushion for indulgences and helps to increase the basic metabolic rate, which given I had lost using a low cal diet I figured would probably be pretty imperative for me.
Exercise is a bit if a double edged sword. Definitely helps with definition and muscle building and of course increases cardiovascular fitness which is all great... But boy oh boy does it ever make me hungry! I think because I exercise in the mornings I would be ravenous by mid afternoon. Which can be tough to deal with.
Determined- you can do it! Amazing how fast Phase 1 knocks off the pounds isn't it? I'm loving feeling good in my jeans again. Darn near cried this morning I was so happy when I put them on and they were fitting like they did a couple months ago. That we're here and fighting (I have to have extra protein sometimes too!) is all that matters. Sooo glad I didn't fully slip back into the abyss of mindless eating. But have to say I have a fair amount of trepidation about hitting Phase 3/4 again. I just have to accept low carb is the way for me and that's it. Cause I tried a bunch of different ways and just kept getting further and further off track... As bigpassport once said I don't need to reinvent the wheel...

CassiR
06-09-2012, 11:04 PM
Cap- I love the classes. I'm moving soon and hope to find some great classes at our new place. You're right- they fly by after the first 10-15 mins and are so much fun. I'd rather do these than work out on my own. I always just stuck with cardio and it got to be boring. Fast paced walking no longer gets my heart rate up as much as I'd like. I walk 6 blocks to work from the train everyday and back to go home and my body has gotten used to that.

Hopefully I can get into some sort of routine again after the move.

By the way, I made a ticker for my little re-boot. Hehe I love being held accountable and I miss changing that thing after weekly weigh-ins! :D

patns
06-10-2012, 12:34 AM
Pat, just wondering if you excersise? I have a heck of a time even getting a walk in 3-4 times a week. Maybe that is why I have such a difficult time with maintenance. I do not have a lot of options for classes, excersise buddies, etc.

No, that is my biggest issue. My job is very inactive but also very time consuming. It is slowing down now so i will be able to start getting some walking in. Once school is over at the end of June I can get in some heavy duty walking. Actually if it ever stops raining I can start soon. On my way home from work I drive through a national park. It has a variety of walking/hiking trails which take from an hour to 5 hours. I will usually do the one hour ones in the summer. It is pretty incredible, with am amazing variety of animals.

Once I got a bonus run for my life when I mistakenly wandered off the marked trail and came face to face with a humongous bull bison. He figured it was better that I run than him in the heat and just pawed at the dust and made a great racket.

I commute over an hour each way to work and that really seemed to mean no extra timesince we moved here. Also for many months it is brutally cold here and I tend to lay low once it hits freezing.
So I am like you, I really need to find something I can do for most of the year but i will really focus on walking in the summer.
I think to maintain exercise really needs to come into it.

Pat

lkp888
06-10-2012, 01:53 AM
Ikp888- I stayed on Phase 1 until I hit 3 pounds below goal. I stalled my first week of Phase 2. The brand new Phase 1 sheet I was given last week states that we stay on Phase 1 til we reach goal. And I have to agree. It's the quickest, more convenient and tastier way there. It's exciting to hit a new Phase but in my experience it's better to stick it out with Phase 1...


Wow, I didn't recognize you! I thought, oh there's someone else from Vermilion on here now. You have done so well.
I would stick with phase 1 until you get to goal too. Everyone seems to have individual reactions to the different phases and I think it is much easier if you don't have to worry about needing to continue losing.

Pat

Thanks Pat :hug:


I too recommend staying on phase 1 as long as possible! Truly, after you phase off, the really hard part begins. I do not want to sound as if your accomplishment of weight loss isn't awesome! It really is and it takes commitment and will power but once you phase off, for whatever reason, it is really hard to ever do pure phase 1 again ( not that it cannot be done, many have) my personal experience and as you can read here, the struggles of maintenance can be torture at times. Keep on trucking while you are in the groove and WAYTOGO!!!!

Thanks everyone. I think that's what I would like to do as well, I will discuss this with my coach on Tuesday. I will let you all know how I do, I really appreciate all the advice.

capricious
06-10-2012, 10:11 AM
Patns- you're in Vermillion too? Exercise does seem to be an important aspect of maintenance... Walking is recommended because it doesn't increase appetite but still gets you moving... Have you considered a DVD? They have them for pretty much every type of exercise and it's something you can do at home during the winter... Trick seems to be finding something you enjoy... Rather than something you feel obliged to do..
that run in with the bull bison must've been terrifying! Those things are mean!
Ikp888- i hope your talk with your coach goes smoothly... Cause I definitely agree with your decision...
Maggie- I know that walking doesn't get the heart rate up but I do think it keeps the metabolism revved. I find the more of it I do the easier I maintain. I consider the classes to be more for 'shaping'... Where are you moving?

Yesterday I made a really yummy fried cauliflower rice recipe. I should preface this by saying I really like the mix of sweet & savory spices in Indian food. So I fried the rice in coconut oil and added cumin & mild curry- so tasty!!!
Never really tried to make low carb Indian because I thought that would be next to impossible. But after the rice I went hunting for recipes and found ones for low carb butter chicken and low carb naan bread... Will be trying these out in conjunction with the 'rice' for sure when I hit Phase 4 again...