Weight Loss Support - Losing weight is genetic..so I can't lose it?




kassiebby1124
05-12-2012, 08:16 PM
That is what someone told me today. Now, I'm aware that weight loss and genetics go hand in hand together, but does that mean when i'm at goal I'm not gonna look any different? |: I'm gonna still have this horrendous tummy hang? I do weights every other day so I'm tightening while I lose, but will I not be able to LOSE it?


LockItUp
05-12-2012, 08:19 PM
That is ridiculous! Of course you can lose weight! What idiot told you that!?

Snoofie
05-12-2012, 08:38 PM
Whoever told you that is a total idiot. Losing weight has zero to do with genetics; it has to do with hard work and determination. The only genetic aspect to weight is that if obesity runs in your family, you obviously have a higher risk of experiencing it yourself. But I repeat: GENETICS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH LOSING WEIGHT.

Don't let the ill-informed opinion of one idiot make you feel as though losing weight is impossible. It isn't. I know it sounds cliched, but if *I* could do it, anyone can. And that includes you. You just have to want it bad enough to be willing to work for it!


Only Me
05-12-2012, 08:41 PM
Have you ever seen a healthy weight person with horrendous tummy hang? I know I haven't. It may take some time for your skin to recover from the weight loss, or it may never fully recover. You might always carry more weight in you stomach than other areas; it will still be much smaller than it is now. But, you can lose weight, get fit, and be happy with the body you end up in.

pixelllate
05-12-2012, 09:07 PM
Do you mean body proportions (because I think that that is what that person means)- like if your body will still be proportionally bigger in the tummy vs your other body parts? Some parts will be slower to lose than others due to where we put the weight. For me its my legs.

JohnP
05-12-2012, 09:27 PM
GENETICS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH LOSING WEIGHT.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying but genetics plays a huge role. It doesn't mean one can't lose weight but it does mean that it might be harder for some than others. Off the top of my head here are several - I'm certain there are many more.

BMR - some people have a higher metabolism, others lower.

How fast one's body adapts to reduced calories.

Insulin sensativity varies amoung individuals.

Leptin sensativity varies.

Even will power has a genetic component.

JohnP
05-12-2012, 09:31 PM
That is what someone told me today. Now, I'm aware that weight loss and genetics go hand in hand together, but does that mean when i'm at goal I'm not gonna look any different? |: I'm gonna still have this horrendous tummy hang? I do weights every other day so I'm tightening while I lose, but will I not be able to LOSE it?

I don't mean to be insensative to your emotions but do you believe everything you hear? Do you honestly think there are people who could be dropped on a desert island with only fresh water and no way to get food and they would remain fat?

As for your stomach - consider yourself lucky. You're young. Odds are high that your skin will tighten up and you will lose it.

Daimere
05-12-2012, 09:55 PM
I don't mean to be insensative to your emotions but do you believe everything you hear? Do you honestly think there are people who could be dropped on a desert island with only fresh water and no way to get food and they would remain fat?
.

Well, if the show Lost teaches us anything, nope. Hurley seemed the same size the entire time. :p

Only Me
05-12-2012, 10:09 PM
Do you mean body proportions (because I think that that is what that person means)- like if your body will still be proportionally bigger in the tummy vs your other body parts? Some parts will be slower to lose than others due to where we put the weight. For me its my legs.

This is definitely true. My legs will never be skinny like my sister's legs. I got my mother's legs, she got my father's legs. :p But, while they stay proportionately on the larger size, they do get smaller and look shapely rather than chubby as I lose weight and get fitter.

kaplods
05-12-2012, 10:27 PM
I suspect that genetics is part of the equation and can make weight loss more difficcult. Since suspecting a genetic component to my own weight loss (I'm adopted and the only person in my immediate or extended familyy to have had a weight problem as a child or young adult, and the only woman to exceed 200 lbs before the age of 30 (and I did so before 7th grade) and the only person to exceed 275 lbs ever (let alone almost 400).

None of my siblings' children have been overweight either. Being raised in the same family and food environment, it does make me wonder what my bio-parents look like.

Body weight is an interaction between environment and genetics. When I thought that "it didn't matter," I didn't understand why I had to work so much harder than everyone else seemed to. When I realized that the deck might be stacked against me, it made me realize that I had to work harder and smarter than everyone else. I had to experiment to find what worked for me, because what worked for other people and what people said would work for me, didn't always.

Whether it's genetics, a physical defect, or a mental one that makes me super-crazy-hungry on a high-carb diet, and makes it impossible for me to keep certain carbohydrates in my home, it doesn't really matter. I had to learn that I couldn't "do" moderation like many people could (or said I should be able to).

There is no "shoulds" when it comes to weight loss, you have to find what works for you, even if it seems like a bad idea to other people.

I have a hard time accepting the fact that I have to eat as low-carb as I do, because I've always been opposed to low-carb diets. If I had realized that a low (but not too low) carbohydrate diet was the only plan that worked for me without causing such rabid hunger that I spent every hour obsessing over the food I couldn't eat.

Controlling carbs has controlled the rabid-hunger, and I almost didn't discover that, because I thought that all diets were the same and all that mattered was eating less and moving more (that I couldn't seem to DO that until I found a way to control the hunger doesn't seem to matter to anyone but me).

One day there may be a genetic test that will help people before the weight becomes an issue, or maybe help them find the best diet without having to go through the trial and error that we're all left with now.

I think I may have had blood sugar issues for my whole life (and maybe one day there'll be a genetic test for it). For as long as I can remember I haven't been able to eat sweet foods for breakfast without getting sick. Now I recognize that as a blood sugar issue. It's just a guess, but I think one day there will be a genetic test that will help people find the right diet and exercise program for their genetic traits, but until then trial and error is all we've got.

We can't change our genetics and we don't yet have treatment options designed to deal with the genetic aspect of weight loss, but that doesn't mean it's hopeless, it just means that if it feels like other people seem to find it easier to maintain a healthy weight, you just might be right.

I'd also really suggest experimenting with different styles of eating, especially when it comes to the percentage and types of carbs in your diet.

I never would have imagined I could lose weight without constant, gnawing, torturous 24/7 hunger, until I discovered that on 3000 of high-carb eating, I was far hungrier than on 1500 or even 1000 calories of low-carb eating. On super low-carb I have no hunger, but I also have other unpleasant side effects, so I've had to find a middle ground.

Oddly though I didn't find a lot of help in finding a middle ground (at least not the specific kind of middle ground that I needed). I had to invent my own plan to deal with the problems I was able to identify.

To succeed, many of us have to become lab rat and scientist (which doesn't make for good science, but it's really all that's available when the "common wisdom" doesn't work).

If the popular advice does work for you, more power to you, but if it doesn't you just have to keep experimenting until you find what does work for you. Genetics can make that search longer and harder, but it doesn't make the path untravelable.

sontaikle
05-13-2012, 12:41 AM
My whole immediate family is overweight. I was told the following things growing up:
We're all built bigger
Some of us have more meat on our bones
You'll never be a size 4. You just aren't built that way
You would have to starve yourself to be a size 0
We just aren't meant to be thin
We have slow metabolisms

I actually probably have a small/medium build...but I'm not sure. I wear a size 0 (and I eat over 2000 calories a day) and I realize I was just eating too much. I know it's hard when you're a kid and adults say something to you (even when you're in your late teens) but it's worth it to question what they say...because I certainly wouldn't be where I am otherwise.

Serenity100
05-13-2012, 08:16 AM
Some of us are more prone to different conditions due to our genetic makeup. That doesn't mean we can't overcome obesity. It only means we have to be more diligent in keeping our "fat genes" from taking over.

Never give up.

twinieten
05-13-2012, 09:02 AM
You will not always look this way! You won't be just a smaller version of where you are now!

I think, however, that thanks to our DNA (as others have pointed out) there will always be "problem areas" and tendencies. Our body shapes are just as they are.

I have always had a tummy pooch. Skinny or fat, I've had that pooch. I've never been the flat tummied beach beauty. My c-section only enhanced it. I'm hoping that my level of fitness will shrink my tummy, and flatten it more, but I doubt it will ever really go away. I don't think I'll ever be totally flat tummied in this lifetime.

However, even if you keep your tummy because your genes dictate it's presence, if lose the weight, and you work hard, and you get in shape, it's not going to be this big blubbery fold. You will shrink, and tighten and look good. I don't know how old you are, but you look young, and that's a bonus!

Don't worry. Keep working hard. The results are worth it!

Tai
05-13-2012, 09:23 AM
No matter what role genetics plays in our weight issues it's the one thing we can't change. Don't let it frustrate you or stop you in your efforts to reach your goal! You are doing great so far so continue to focus on the things you can change like food and exercise.

You will look very different at goal. Time is on your side!

BellieUp
05-13-2012, 09:23 AM
That is what someone told me today.....

I'd like to see what they are using as authoritative data to make that claim.

I'd also look at the person and wonder if they are making excuses for their own shortcomings.

Maybe truly big boned individuals will have large calves or forearms no matter what but as far as I know the fat cells are gathered around the waist/butt areas and when they are filled to the max the other parts of the body start accumulating the stored fat.

When we go into calorie deficit, for an extended period of time, the fat around the other parts of the body and the fat cells start getting smaller, no matter what a person's genetic makeup is. (I'll admit that fat cells are designed to maintain fat out of survival, which MAY slow their rate of loss thanks to genetics, but NEVER???)

Maybe they were referring to the thinned fat cells still retaining more fat out of genetic code, which gives us our individuality, and does not even come into play until a person starts to approach emaciation (ok my words..) but if they are referring to being able to loose weight or the 'final product' looking the same as before, then I say they are out of their minds.

Vex
05-13-2012, 11:36 AM
Genetics plays a role in your body shape. For example, if your entire family is around 5'5" - it's a good chance you will be too. If all the women in your family have big hips, chances are you will too.

Environment probably plays a bigger role then genetics, especially since you are still in high school and living at home. If you're entire family overeats bad food at home....chances are you will too.

But you've already proven you're your own person - by the amount of weight you've already lost!

It's a struggle, no doubt, but YOU have the ultimate choice on how your body looks - within reason. You probably can't (or want to be) a 4'9" 98lb person, but you CAN be a 5'4" 150lb person.

Will you have saggy skin on your belly after you've lost weight? No one knows really. If you do, I guarantee you, you can hide it. Wouldn't you rather be 150lbs with a slightly flabby belly then where you are now?

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freelancemomma
05-14-2012, 05:35 PM
I wear a size 0 (and I eat over 2000 calories a day) and I realize I was just eating too much. I know it's hard when you're a kid and adults say something to you (even when you're in your late teens) but it's worth it to question what they say...because I certainly wouldn't be where I am otherwise.

That's also been my experience. Don't accept what people tell you! Most of the time they have no idea what they're talking about. I'm now maintaining at 140 pounds and I'm 5'11". The other day I bought a pair of size 2 (!) capris. I didn't think this was possible for me, being tall and "large framed." Wrong -- I was overweight because I was eating 3,000 calories per day, not because of my frame.

F.

caramelkitty
05-14-2012, 05:56 PM
That's also been my experience. Don't accept what people tell you! Most of the time they have no idea what they're talking about. I'm now maintaining at 140 pounds and I'm 5'11". The other day I bought a pair of size 2 (!) capris. I didn't think this was possible for me, being tall and "large framed." Wrong -- I was overweight because I was eating 3,000 calories per day, not because of my frame.

F.

My thoughts exactly!! I always thought "well I'm big boned so I'm always gonna be big" because thats what my family fed me as an excuse. But now that I'm losing the weight I realize that at 157, theres a good 30lb that I can still see disappear. And my size 8 can easily be turned into a size 2 or 4. No doubts about it.

Samantha18
05-14-2012, 07:27 PM
Genetics most certainly play a part in obesity. My family, even my extended family (cousins, aunts, uncles, etc...) is full of obese and overweight people. Both my mom and real dad are overweight, also. So it's no surprise that even though I only eat sweets a few times a year on holidays, I weigh this much. My family has never had issues with binging, etc... yet we're obese. I've sat there for years and watched my thin friends eat more than I ever could, yet I have the weight issues. It really sucks, but I do think genetics matter. Being short doesn't help either.

I also don't find it surprising that I've only lost 13 pounds in 3 months, which for someone my weight, is pretty slow.

However, I don't think it's impossible to lose weight for those with genetics not on their side, it's just harder and things will have to be done differently.

linJber
05-14-2012, 08:06 PM
I have to agree with the idea that genetics play a part in our general size / shape at a particular weight. I am blessed with my mother's face (she was 5'2" tall and about 95 pounds when she got married) but with my dad's frame. I could diet and starve myself and never be built like my mom was at any particular age, but I certainly can be smaller than I was at 250+ pounds. And now that i'm at a more normal weight, I see certain similarities in how I'm built and how mom was built. I'm just a slightly larger version. Heavy thighs, small boobs, that sort of thing. If that isn't genetics, I don't know what is.

But to say you can't lose weight because of genetics is just plain crazy. And someone put their finger on something I've believed for years. Being overweight "runs in families" primarily because "eating habits" run in families. Good and bad habits. And as far as loose skin goes - wait and see how it goes. It will be better than it is now.

Lin

JohnP
05-14-2012, 09:15 PM
Being overweight "runs in families" primarily because "eating habits" run in families. Good and bad habits.

Exactly correct - environment effects how genes are expressed. One cannot seperate the two in the real world.

sacha
05-15-2012, 07:24 AM
Oh Kassie :hugs:

I don't think any of us here will be Miranda Kerr one day. But you can be the best darn Kassie you can be, with effort, patience, and time.

In the maintainer section, you'll find girls who started at your size and came from families who were all overweight. They were able to do it. Was it harder than someone who is born with 'better' genetics? Probably. But they did it. Sure, it's harder to change your eating habits/exercise habits that you grew up with, but your genes are simply a biological starting point, not an absolute map.

There are some absolutes - our race, our height, our bone structure, our eye colour - but the rest if fat and muscle tissue that can be changed.

Kayriel
05-15-2012, 09:16 AM
My thoughts exactly!! I always thought "well I'm big boned so I'm always gonna be big" because thats what my family fed me as an excuse. But now that I'm losing the weight I realize that at 157, theres a good 30lb that I can still see disappear. And my size 8 can easily be turned into a size 2 or 4. No doubts about it.

My mum told me that when I gained weight. She loved me and to make me feel better compared to the rest of my family she always said I was bigger boned like my aunt and therefore it was okay (even though I'd been slim until I was about 22/23). So I told myself that my weight was okay as I was big-boned. Looking up frame sizes, I realise I'm actually small boned!

I'll never be as small as the rest of my family (my mum is 5'0, my sisters are 5'0 and 4'10) but I can still lose weight! I may not lose it as fast as my younger sister whose post-pregnancy weight seemed to drop off her overnight but I'm definitely losing it.

Keep to your eating plan and the weight will eventually come off. It might not be as fast as you like but every lb is still a lb closer to goal! :D

krampus
05-15-2012, 09:50 AM
That is what someone told me today. Now, I'm aware that weight loss and genetics go hand in hand together, but does that mean when i'm at goal I'm not gonna look any different? |: I'm gonna still have this horrendous tummy hang? I do weights every other day so I'm tightening while I lose, but will I not be able to LOSE it?

Your tummy might be kind of floppy with loose skin when all is said and done, but that's better than having it be floppy and full of visceral fat. And seriously dude, you HAVE lost weight! Therefore you can, and you know it. :P

Bone structure, metabolism, all that stuff matters some, but will power and commitment trump minor obstacles.

electrongirl
05-15-2012, 10:14 AM
Well, if the show Lost teaches us anything, nope. Hurley seemed the same size the entire time. :p

Actually they had food. They had the food from the plane, then the food from the hatch, then the food from the pallet that was dropped.

Also they hunted wild boar and picked fruit.

AND he even said to someone who commented on his weight that he was down some notches on his belt.

:D

Shaper
05-15-2012, 10:45 AM
Actually they had food. They had the food from the plane, then the food from the hatch, then the food from the pallet that was dropped.

Also they hunted wild boar and picked fruit.

AND he even said to someone who commented on his weight that he was down some notches on his belt.

:D

heh:) I was wondering if anyone would bring this up.

LockItUp
05-15-2012, 11:49 AM
Actually they had food. They had the food from the plane, then the food from the hatch, then the food from the pallet that was dropped.

Also they hunted wild boar and picked fruit.

AND he even said to someone who commented on his weight that he was down some notches on his belt.

:D

LOL!!! And I'm pretty sure I remember an episode where he was put in charge of the food and ate a ton of it? Chocolate bars come to mind? Am I remembering that wrong. HUGE LOST FAN! Couldn't resist.

freelancemomma
05-15-2012, 01:54 PM
I don't think any of us here will be Miranda Kerr one day.

Hey, speak for yourself! :-) I think there are quite a few Miranda Kerrs over in the maintenance section and I consider myself one of them (well, the 55-year-old version). The fewer mental limits we place on ourselves the better, I say.

F.

electrongirl
05-15-2012, 07:41 PM
LOL!!! And I'm pretty sure I remember an episode where he was put in charge of the food and ate a ton of it? Chocolate bars come to mind? Am I remembering that wrong. HUGE LOST FAN! Couldn't resist.

I am a huge Lost fan too! I have rewatched it at least 3-4 times.

He had a huge jar of peanut butter and other things hidden away and Libby helped him get rid of it all.