Weight Loss Support - Fat, Depressed, and New to the Forum




ChicknThief
05-09-2012, 01:14 PM
Hi guys, I'm Jessica.

I am 21 years old, 5'6" tall, and 260 pounds.

Last February I had a severe hormonal imbalance, and in addition to the other horrible side effects, I gained almost a hundred pounds in a matter of months. I used to have a perfect body that I was proud of. Now I am too ashamed to wear a bathingsuit or go outside with any semblance of confidence.

I eat healthy, really I do. I excercise regularly (4-7 times per week). I am trying so hard. And getting nowhere. I haven't had the courage to weigh myself in over a year. Yesterday I did. 260 freaking pounds. 85 pounds heavier than I used to be. (I had a ridiculously high muscle mass, so 175 looked GOOD on me).

260 pounds. On an impulse, I bought three different kinds of diet pill and a laxative and started using all of them at once. Yes, I know it was very stupid, but I was (and am) somewhat desperate. I spent the whole night last night throwing up, and alternating between panic attacks and crushing depression.

I don't want to go through that again, so I have decided to only do one kind of diet pill at a time, and only use the laxative once or twice a week. I feel like this is my only hope to get my body back. I am so tired of wanting to cry every time I look in the mirror. I am so very tired of feeling repulsive.

I think a forum like this can help me. I have a wonderful and caring boyfriend, but he just doesn't understand the kind of support I need. I need to surround myself with people who have been there, and are fighting this battle right alongside me. I'm here now. I need help. Please, please help me find the next step. I don't think I can do this alone.


chrismon
05-09-2012, 01:25 PM
You will need all the support in the world, from your boyfriend, your family, us, but most of all you need to be ready to make a drastic change and have the willpower to do it. It took me almost 10 years to find that willpower and now I am more determined than ever to succeed. Good luck and please stay away from diet pills...:)

AnnieDrews
05-09-2012, 01:28 PM
Welcome to 3FC!! I'm sorry you are having such a tough time.

I would recommend you see a doctor. If you are truly eating healthy foods (not OVEReating them...anything can make you gain if you eat enough of it) and exercising...there is a problem somewhere.

Do me a favor? Please stop taking the diet pills and laxatives. They will only hurt you in the long run.

Lots of lovely friends here for support. You made a good choice joining this site.:hug:


LockItUp
05-09-2012, 01:39 PM
Hello. Welcome. And I'm very sorry to hear you're having such a hard time.

I think you should see a doctor as soon as possible. Diet pills and laxatives are a slippery slope, I've BTDT! I understand where you are coming from, I really do! But punishing your body is not going to get you to where you want to be, and I say that from a very very sincere and caring place! If there's something going on with your body that is truly preventing you from losing weight, you doctor can help, and you doctor can also help if you are suffering from depression.

Stick around here and you will get a ton of support. Best of luck and hope to see you around A LOT!

luckystreak
05-09-2012, 02:23 PM
Throw the pills away please!!

Charmed7
05-09-2012, 02:30 PM
It's worth repeating - the dr treating your hormonal inbalance really should be the first place you start. Not diet pills. There is no wonder drug. They just want your money...

Throw out the pills, call your dr, and get a plan that works for you started. You didn't gain weight because of your worthiness. Your body is not functioning properly and you need to find out what is causing it, and how to treat it.

Good luck!

We're here for you.
C7

ChicknThief
05-09-2012, 02:31 PM
Thanks you guys :^:

I can already see from your responses, and the threads I have been reading, that this was a good forum to join.

As for seeing a doctor, I have. And she is somewhat less than helpful. In fact, I am in the process of changing doctors because I can't stand her. Doctors that graduate from medical school with "A" averages get the same title as those that graduate with "C" averages, and this woman is living proof.

AnnieDrews: I don't *think* I overeat. I don't count calories, but I am careful about what I put in my mouth. We don't ever, EVER, eat fastfood. I only cook with whole ingredients, none of that processed caca. I typically eat a bowl of cereal (grapenuts/etc, not sugary stuff) for breakfast, a sandwich or can of soup for lunch, and whatever I decide to cook for dinner (most often variations of chicken with some sort of vegetables and a carb, typically rice). I do occasionally (once every week or two) make something more interesting for breakfast or dinner, but that's pretty much it. If there is something I need to change, I am willing to change it. I just don't know what it is.

About the diet pills. So far all the feedback I have gotten says to stop them. I really don't want to. I paid a lot for them and I really want to see if they work. I definitely don't consider them a permanent solution by any means. Just kind of a kickstart to get things back into swing. Are they really so dangerous?

Thank you for your kind responses. I really am motivated to get the weight off. My goal is to be back to 175 or below by this time next year. I WILL make this happen!

JohnP
05-09-2012, 03:10 PM
I am an expert on diet pills because I am always looking for the short cut. I've done a ton of research and I'll tell you that diet pills work but not very much and at a high price. Without going into a lot of mind numbing detail I'll just simply explain how they work.

They speed up your metabolism. The most powerful ones you can buy legally only speed it up by around 5%. What this means is that at your size you probably have a BMR of around 1800-2000.

At most - you're burning an extra 100 calories a day.

The price you pay for burning these 100 calories is signifigant. They speed up your heart rate and increase your blood pressure. They often cause anxiety and affect your mood in a negative fasion which can serverly affect how you're eating.

Take the pills and throw them away.

For the rest of it you've gotten good advice. Go find another doctor. Eating "healthy" probably isn't enough you will probably need to count calories or otherwise restrict your eating.

freelancemomma
05-09-2012, 03:57 PM
I eat healthy, really I do.

Eating healthy will not cause you to lose weight. Eating fewer calories than your body needs will. I suggest you start by taking inventory of how much you eat and reducing the amount by about 500 calories. There's no reason you can't be successful! Keep us posted.

F.

ChicknThief
05-09-2012, 04:14 PM
JohnP: What does BMR stand for?

Freelancemomma: Correct me if I'm wrong. I am under the impression that the bigger a person is, the more calories it takes to maintain their body weight. So if an 800lb person eats enough calories to maintain a 300lb weight, they will lose weight. Whereas if a 200lb person were to eat the same amount they would gain weight. And in that way, it's all relative. I am eating better and less now than I was when I was maintaining 175lbs. I am also exercising now when I wasn't before. So shouldn't that mean that I should be losing weight? I hope that made sense

pixelllate
05-09-2012, 04:27 PM
Hey there, I used to take laxatives too, not for diet purposes but because I have always had digestive issues (esp if on certain meds) I really wanted to poo. I found that the pills would sort of work, I "went" but it was also small and uncomfortable and very dry (TMI but hey oh well haha)

I did find some ways without pills that worked much better for me, when I have some time I will try to compile them! Digestion is very imp. to me haha.

How many calories do you eat a day? (or if its up and down, how many on average). Also, what do you eat? I am just curious because I used to be really into cal counting, and some meals are a little tricky to calculate and also cause me to retain a lot of water.

LockItUp
05-09-2012, 04:55 PM
Freelancemomma: Correct me if I'm wrong. I am under the impression that the bigger a person is, the more calories it takes to maintain their body weight. So if an 800lb person eats enough calories to maintain a 300lb weight, they will lose weight. Whereas if a 200lb person were to eat the same amount they would gain weight. And in that way, it's all relative. I am eating better and less now than I was when I was maintaining 175lbs. I am also exercising now when I wasn't before. So shouldn't that mean that I should be losing weight?

I know you weren't asking ME :D but, there's no way to know until you count calories. Not saying you have to do it FOREVER, just to get an idea of what range you are eating in. I'm talking weigh (if possible) or measure everything you eat, account for every taste, every bite, every bit of oil you use when you are cooking etc.

If you are eating less now than you were when maintaining at 175, and that is 100% accurate, then it sounds like a medical problem, which diet pills and laxatives will not fix.

I'd still encourage you to calorie count for a week or 2 to make sure you are eating what you think you are eating and go from there.

ChicknThief
05-09-2012, 04:58 PM
pixelllate: Laxatives have had a very different effect on me. I get mild-moderate cramps, and when I go (every couple of hours) it is neither small nor dry. In fact, I have had to up my liquid intake significantly to ward of dehydration.

I don't count calories, but I don't mind posting examples of what I eat.

Typical Breakfast: 1 bowl of grapenuts cereal with fat free milk.
Once every week or two I will make eggs/etc. Once every couple of months I will make something like waffles.

Typical lunch: Can of low-sodium heart healthy soup, or a sandwich on whole wheat bread. Today it's a can of tomato soup. Yesterday it was a turkey sandwich. This almost never varies.

Typical Dinner: There really is no "typical" dinner actually. I cook a variety of things. Tonight it's tuna casserole with peas. Tomorrow it's grilled chicken with green beans and rice. Friday it's baked chicken with asparagus. Next week I might make a pot roast. Or Chicken noodle soup. Etc etc.

I would love to learn what foods can make one retain water more than others. I must admit, I am not very knowledgable about anything of that nature.

ChicknThief
05-09-2012, 05:01 PM
I know you weren't asking ME :D but, there's no way to know until you count calories. Not saying you have to do it FOREVER, just to get an idea of what range you are eating in. I'm talking weigh (if possible) or measure everything you eat, account for every taste, every bite, every bit of oil you use when you are cooking etc.

If you are eating less now than you were when maintaining at 175, and that is 100% accurate, then it sounds like a medical problem, which diet pills and laxatives will not fix.

I'd still encourage you to calorie count for a week or 2 to make sure you are eating what you think you are eating and go from there.

Hmmm. Ok, I will try counting my calories starting tomorrow. I don't have the tools to weigh what I eat. If I may ask, what is the purpose of weighing it? Wow, the more y'all post, the more I realize I don't know :o

freelancemomma
05-09-2012, 05:08 PM
Freelancemomma: Correct me if I'm wrong. I am under the impression that the bigger a person is, the more calories it takes to maintain their body weight. So if an 800lb person eats enough calories to maintain a 300lb weight, they will lose weight. Whereas if a 200lb person were to eat the same amount they would gain weight. And in that way, it's all relative. I am eating better and less now than I was when I was maintaining 175lbs. I am also exercising now when I wasn't before. So shouldn't that mean that I should be losing weight? I hope that made sense

Everything you wrote is correct. I just wanted to point out that eating healthy doesn't automatically lead to weight loss. It's the amount that counts. If you're eating less than your body needs, you should lose weight. If you're NOT losing, you need to see your doctor to find out if hormonal issues are preventing you from losing.

F.

LockItUp
05-09-2012, 05:11 PM
Hmmm. Ok, I will try counting my calories starting tomorrow. I don't have the tools to weigh what I eat. If I may ask, what is the purpose of weighing it? Wow, the more y'all post, the more I realize I don't know :o

Let's say you have chicken or beef or some other meat -- there's a calorie difference between 3 ounces of chicken and 8 ounces of chicken, and unless you have been weighing and measuring for a while *most* people can't eyeball servings like that.

Some things, like eggs, obviously you know how many you have and can just see the calories on the package.

Or if you use oil to cook, that's definitely important to measure. Or if you eat nuts, or nut butters. Just a tablespoon extra adds quite a few calories, over the course of a week or a month we're talking hundreds and hundreds of unaccounted for calories.

You can measure most things if you don't have a food scale!

586
05-09-2012, 05:16 PM
I understand the desperation, the fear, the anxious I-NEED-THIS-WEIGHT-OFF-NOW mentality. SO many of us do. You are in a good forum. :)

Now, the important bits:

Laxatives - don't need them for weight loss. You need them in the event of infrequent and hopefully rare constipation! Toss those laxatives out. You'll never, ever want to become so accustomed to turning to them that you can no longer excrete bodily waste without the chemical stimulant action of them!

Diet pills - again, less chemicals is better off, especially with any hormonal imbalance. You don't need this! You can lose sensibly without them!

Have the doctor treating your condition assess your options. Whatever you are diagnosed with, make sure it is being treated appropriately and that any weight reduction plan you undertake will agree with the treatment being provided. There are specialty forums here for people with certain challenges to weight loss, and you may find even more tips from those groups!

Onto the general advice I give everyone who asks:

Look at your nutrition itself. Do you consume a lot of caffeinated or otherwise sugar-laden drinks? Fruit juices, sodas, coffees that are more like desserts? Cut them back! Small changes first. Get used to tapering down your initial cravings over a two week period.

Portion control! Make your hand a fist. See that pad of skin from thumb to wrist? Sort of round? Welcome to your meat size. Beef, pork, chicken, fish... there you have it. Cup your hand into a bowl. Welcome to what your vegetable options should look like. See that thumb pad? Here's a Tablespoon measurement. Butter? Oil? Peanut butter? All of that? That's a Tablespoon. You want a teaspoon? Look at your pinky finger, and that pad is your teaspoon measurement.

Calorie reduction. You can start with choosing between 1800 to 2000 calories a day. Just enough to lose weight slowly on but not so little you feel deprived. Dessert? Account for everything. If it gets put on a plate, grabbed into your hand, spooned from a jar, placed into your mouth - write it down. BUT WAIT! Check the serving size. Might be 2 or more servings in that container. Make sure you're adding it all correctly. Be honest with yourself.

Exercise? Why yes, just walking can do a lot of interesting stuff. I started with walking, worked up to 2 miles a day and that was how my initial 100 pounds was aided in coming off. I didn't even break a sweat until summer. Start small. Keep it reasonable. Keep it reliable. Keep it something you can zone out to in the beginning.

pixelllate
05-09-2012, 05:23 PM
Hmmm. Ok, I will try counting my calories starting tomorrow. I don't have the tools to weigh what I eat. If I may ask, what is the purpose of weighing it? Wow, the more y'all post, the more I realize I don't know :o

When you buy your meat, does it say the ounces or pounds? I usually buy like 1 lb of chicken breast for example, and that is 16 ounces, and I google "chicken breast calories" and click on whatever site. 1 oz=30 calories, according to what I find on google. So that entire 1 lb chicken breast - 480.
I heard that 3 OZ=size of average palm of hand or a deck of cards.
What I do is I buy 16 oz of chicken and cut it up into 5 pieces, a little over 3 oz each (90 cals or so), and then I freeze them. That way, if I just want it as a side, I cook up 3 oz chicken, if I want more, I take out two packages.
A scale can measure the ounces for you, so its pretty instant. After that you can google "calories in ___ ounces of ___" When you get used to knowing how much is in how many ounces (esp helpful if you are like me and eat similar things most days) you'll automatically know!

Oh and grape nuts used to constipate me! I find that lessening my amount of whole grains helped my pooing. White rice was easy on my digestion. Also, I read that your digestive system is a bit like a pot of boiling water. When you pour cold water into it, it "starts over" again-takes more time to get to the boiling point, so its a good idea to drink lukewarm to warm water. I just drink when I am thirsty, my digestion never increased when I tried drinking tons of water. Bananas also stall me. I find that fiberous foods when blanched or eaten raw increases the size of my dumps, but decreases the frequency. I find that mushy foods-like very highly boiled or sauted until super soft, or even juiced veg really helped with my pooing. Oh and coffee and prune juice will do the instant trick-but it leaves me very bloated.

pixelllate
05-09-2012, 05:33 PM
Also, do you have measuring spoons and cups? 1/2 cup of grape nuts = 208 calories. and 1 tablespoon of mayo is 49 calories, 1 tablespoon of PB=95calories. 1 tablespoon oil=120 calories. I love baking, but I mostly use the measuring stuff to eyeball my calories nowadays lol (trying to save $$)
So I just measure things out in cups and spoons. And I make sure that I know how many lbs of meat I buy and convert that to ounces and find out the calories from there.

ChicknThief
05-09-2012, 05:54 PM
Everything you wrote is correct. I just wanted to point out that eating healthy doesn't automatically lead to weight loss. It's the amount that counts. If you're eating less than your body needs, you should lose weight. If you're NOT losing, you need to see your doctor to find out if hormonal issues are preventing you from losing.

Alright, well if after maybe two weeks of calorie counting I am not making a reasonable amount of progress, I will go see a doctor again. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe I am overeating and didn't realize it.

Let's say you have chicken or beef or some other meat -- there's a calorie difference between 3 ounces of chicken and 8 ounces of chicken, and unless you have been weighing and measuring for a while *most* people can't eyeball servings like that. Or if you use oil to cook, that's definitely important to measure. Or if you eat nuts, or nut butters. Just a tablespoon extra adds quite a few calories, over the course of a week or a month we're talking hundreds and hundreds of unaccounted for calories.QUOTE]

That makes a lot of sense.... I think I am going to invest in a food scale as well as a bathroom scale.

[QUOTE=586;4327468]I understand the desperation, the fear, the anxious I-NEED-THIS-WEIGHT-OFF-NOW mentality. SO many of us do. You are in a good forum. :)

Now, the important bits:

Laxatives - don't need them for weight loss. You need them in the event of infrequent and hopefully rare constipation! Toss those laxatives out. You'll never, ever want to become so accustomed to turning to them that you can no longer excrete bodily waste without the chemical stimulant action of them!

Diet pills - again, less chemicals is better off, especially with any hormonal imbalance. You don't need this! You can lose sensibly without them!

Have the doctor treating your condition assess your options. Whatever you are diagnosed with, make sure it is being treated appropriately and that any weight reduction plan you undertake will agree with the treatment being provided. There are specialty forums here for people with certain challenges to weight loss, and you may find even more tips from those groups!

Onto the general advice I give everyone who asks:

Look at your nutrition itself. Do you consume a lot of caffeinated or otherwise sugar-laden drinks? Fruit juices, sodas, coffees that are more like desserts? Cut them back! Small changes first. Get used to tapering down your initial cravings over a two week period.

Portion control! Make your hand a fist. See that pad of skin from thumb to wrist? Sort of round? Welcome to your meat size. Beef, pork, chicken, fish... there you have it. Cup your hand into a bowl. Welcome to what your vegetable options should look like. See that thumb pad? Here's a Tablespoon measurement. Butter? Oil? Peanut butter? All of that? That's a Tablespoon. You want a teaspoon? Look at your pinky finger, and that pad is your teaspoon measurement.

Calorie reduction. You can start with choosing between 1800 to 2000 calories a day. Just enough to lose weight slowly on but not so little you feel deprived. Dessert? Account for everything. If it gets put on a plate, grabbed into your hand, spooned from a jar, placed into your mouth - write it down. BUT WAIT! Check the serving size. Might be 2 or more servings in that container. Make sure you're adding it all correctly. Be honest with yourself.

Exercise? Why yes, just walking can do a lot of interesting stuff. I started with walking, worked up to 2 miles a day and that was how my initial 100 pounds was aided in coming off. I didn't even break a sweat until summer. Start small. Keep it reasonable. Keep it reliable. Keep it something you can zone out to in the beginning.

All great info and duly noted! I think the only drink I could stand to cut back on is the alcoholic variety. I know alcohol doesn't help any when trying to lose weight. I will be paying much closer attention to my portion size too. Maybe that really is where my problem lies.

When you buy your meat, does it say the ounces or pounds? I usually buy like 1 lb of chicken breast for example, and that is 16 ounces, and I google "chicken breast calories" and click on whatever site. 1 oz=30 calories, according to what I find on google. So that entire 1 lb chicken breast - 480.
I heard that 3 OZ=size of average palm of hand or a deck of cards.
What I do is I buy 16 oz of chicken and cut it up into 5 pieces, a little over 3 oz each (90 cals or so), and then I freeze them. That way, if I just want it as a side, I cook up 3 oz chicken, if I want more, I take out two packages.
A scale can measure the ounces for you, so its pretty instant. After that you can google "calories in ___ ounces of ___" When you get used to knowing how much is in how many ounces (esp helpful if you are like me and eat similar things most days) you'll automatically know!

Oh and grape nuts used to constipate me! I find that lessening my amount of whole grains helped my pooing. White rice was easy on my digestion. Also, I read that your digestive system is a bit like a pot of boiling water. When you pour cold water into it, it "starts over" again-takes more time to get to the boiling point, so its a good idea to drink lukewarm to warm water. I just drink when I am thirsty, my digestion never increased when I tried drinking tons of water. Bananas also stall me. I find that fiberous foods when blanched or eaten raw increases the size of my dumps, but decreases the frequency. I find that mushy foods-like very highly boiled or sauted until super soft, or even juiced veg really helped with my pooing. Oh and coffee and prune juice will do the instant trick-but it leaves me very bloated.

Honestly, I have never had a problem with constipation. I got the laxative solely for the purpose of losing weight. I didn't really look into the side effects though. Yikes. I have heard that about water temperature too. Makes sense to me

mkroyer
05-09-2012, 06:40 PM
All Laxatives will do is cause a TEMPORARY reduction in WATER weight.... the rebound is usually a higher weight becuase they throw your body's homeostais outta whack. If you take a laxative, you may see a temporary drop in the scale, but within a day or 2 or so, that weight (BACAUSE IT WAS WATER WEIGHT) will be back, and it will probably bring a few friends too ;) There's no point unless you are actually constipated. It will only make things worse in the long run (and short term) and afterall, you are after FAT LOSS, correct? not water loss.....

crazygurl61
05-09-2012, 06:51 PM
I was having a hard time and stalled for a few months because I wasn't counting what I was eating thought what it sounded like seemed healthy. Turns out my portions were way out of whack! Calorie counting has helped me so much because I have to measure and plan.

Again- been there done that with diet pills. Don't waste your time...throw them away and start fresh!

Aahbean
05-09-2012, 07:13 PM
I'm new here, but this isn't my first trip to the weight loss rodeo so I want to throw in my two cents....

I was SHOCKED at how much I put into my mouth. I've done Weight Watchers several times with various results usually because someone was hounding me about my weight, but never because it's what I wanted to do. I started on January 3rd this year and after 3 weeks off plan due to illness, I'm back on track.

When I started, I was crazy about measuring, weighing and writing it down. They are all important steps to weight loss, but they are REALLY important when you are stuck. I would suggest at the very least writing every single thing you put into your mouth for a week. Get a really good, firm grasp on what you are eating because what you think you are doing and what you are actually doing are probably two different things. The other thing is the rice. Try cutting that out for a week. It might sound stupid, but rice sticks to me like glue and it's about the worst thing for me. Potatoes still have starch, but they are filling and they "leave with gusto" so it's probably a better choice.

I won't hound you about the diet pills because I totally understand where you are coming from. You want the weight off and you want it off NOW! I really get that. But my best friend died 4 years ago from complications brought on by diet pills - she had a heart attack and she was 38. So while I don't know you, I understand your need to lose, but I also understand the risk.

JohnP
05-09-2012, 07:47 PM
But my best friend died 4 years ago from complications brought on by diet pills - she had a heart attack and she was 38. So while I don't know you, I understand your need to lose, but I also understand the risk.

I thought this was worth repeating.

ChicknThief
05-09-2012, 07:59 PM
Oookay. That did it. I took my last dose of those pills at noon today. As soon as I get home they are going in the toilet.

Aahbean
05-09-2012, 08:11 PM
THANK YOU!!!!! I didn't want you to feel attacked but I felt like I needed to say it.

pixelllate
05-09-2012, 09:06 PM
Alright, well if after maybe two weeks of calorie counting I am not making a reasonable amount of progress, I will go see a doctor again. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe I am overeating and didn't realize it.

[QUOTE=LockItUp;4327460]Let's say you have chicken or beef or some other meat -- there's a calorie difference between 3 ounces of chicken and 8 ounces of chicken, and unless you have been weighing and measuring for a while *most* people can't eyeball servings like that. Or if you use oil to cook, that's definitely important to measure. Or if you eat nuts, or nut butters. Just a tablespoon extra adds quite a few calories, over the course of a week or a month we're talking hundreds and hundreds of unaccounted for calories.QUOTE]

That makes a lot of sense.... I think I am going to invest in a food scale as well as a bathroom scale.



All great info and duly noted! I think the only drink I could stand to cut back on is the alcoholic variety. I know alcohol doesn't help any when trying to lose weight. I will be paying much closer attention to my portion size too. Maybe that really is where my problem lies.



Honestly, I have never had a problem with constipation. I got the laxative solely for the purpose of losing weight. I didn't really look into the side effects though. Yikes. I have heard that about water temperature too. Makes sense to me
OOOO gotcha I never knew that laxatives helped with losing weight lol. I always thought that people who were trying to lose took them to lose the poo weight

AnnieDrews
05-09-2012, 10:59 PM
ChicknThief-Most of all, don't be overwhelmed by all the info! Take it a step at a time. I think starting with keeping track of what/how much goes into your body daily is a great way to begin. Might I suggest lots of fresh/steamed cooked vegetables? Reasonable amounts of fresh fruits, too. AND lots of water. I believe that has been a huge part of my success.

Do use tools to measure your portions. I have to respectfully say that, at least for myself, the tip of a thumb does not seem accurate as a tablespoon amount. Use measuring spoons and cups until you get the idea.

Can't wait to see how it goes for you, girl!!

ChicknThief
05-10-2012, 12:20 PM
20 hours free of the pills and I feel like a whole new person!! I didn't realize how much they were affecting both my body and my mood. And in such a short period of time. Scary. They made me so irritable and nauseous. The effects didn't start to wear off until late last night.

Off to a good start this morning! I had a 1/2 cup of Grapenuts with a 1/2 cup of fat free milk for a grand total of 240 calories. For lunch I have a sandwich with 2 slices of bread (300), 1 Tbsp mayo (90), mustard (0), Lettuce (0), and 2 slices of roast beef (~100). Soooo...

Breakfast: 240
Lunch: 490

I will be sure to keep track of anything else I eat/drink and post it here. Now I will see if I really am eating as well as I think I do.

Aahbean
05-10-2012, 12:25 PM
I'm really thrilled that you stopped using them!

You look like you are off to a great start this morning. GOOD FOR YOU!!!!

ChicknThief
05-10-2012, 06:48 PM
Okay, so I had a coke with my lunch (140) So my day now looks like this so far...

Breakfast: 240
Lunch: 630

If I am right, I am still well within my daily allowance of calories. :D

JohnP
05-10-2012, 09:23 PM
I didn't realize how much they were affecting both my body and my mood. And in such a short period of time. Scary. They made me so irritable and nauseous.

Exactly. Well done.

As for "eating healthy" just keep in mind that calories dictate fat loss or gain. Eating "healthy" or not is far less important. Having said that - as you pay attention to how you eat and how you feel you'll discover that some foods make you feel hungrier faster and others will make you feel satisfied longer.

bargoo
05-10-2012, 09:56 PM
Congratulations on tossing the diet pills, now do the same with the laxatives, they do you more harm than good.

ChicknThief
05-11-2012, 01:50 PM
Yup I ditched the laxatives at the same time I ditched the diet pills :)

natamars
05-11-2012, 02:20 PM
Chickn, you're doing great.

For me measuring, counting my calories, and writing everything down is key. When I get away fom it I start to gain again. Hopefully by tracking you get some helpful information. If you're truly eating 1500 or fewer calories a day, you should defintiely been losing. Track your weight one day a week..if you're weighing every day you'll see some ups and downs.

ChicknThief
05-11-2012, 02:24 PM
I have just started a public food diary on here, but I posted it in a different section. It won't let me post a link yet, but my post is in Calorie Counters. I would really appreciate if you guys would take a look occasionally and maybe point out area I can improve in. Thank you so much!! :carrot:

Beach Patrol
05-11-2012, 02:52 PM
HOW I CREATED MY WEIGHT LOSS PLAN
maybe this will help you! ~

Here's what I did - I decided that calorie counting was the way to go, because the math is simple and I find it fairly easy to add. :D

3500 calories = 1 pound. Doesn't matter if that 3500 calories is pudding, pie & chocolate cake, or asparagus, broccoli & carrots. Because a pound is a pound! - HOWEVER, know that "you are what you eat" - and too much of any one thing is generally not so good for you. I like to repeat the mantra "all things in moderation." ;)

It takes "X" amount of calories for me to maintain my weight.
And if I eat too many calories per day, then I gain weight.
To lose weight, I need to decrease my calories.
See? Simple.

But HOW to apply that simplicity?
First, I kept track of my normal eating habits - not trying to diet at all! - for about a month. I thought I was averaging around 1500 or so calories per day. HA! -Then I entered everything into FitDay, to my surprise I was eating about 2300+ (heavy on the plus!) calories PER DAY! No wonder I was fat! ACK!!! :dizzy:

Then after that part of my "experiment" was over, I sat down with a good old fashioned pen & paper. I proceeded to write down every single thing I could think of that I enjoyed eating (or drinking!!) I mean everything! Fruit, veggies, meats, desserts, beverages, condiments, etc. EVERYTHING.

The point is I wrote down EVERYTHING that I would consider putting in my mouth. And I decided what I could "substitute" & still be happy (Diet Mtn Dew instead of regular Mtn Dew, for instance ... but not fat-free ranch dressing... icky poo!!!- but I do like Hidden Valley Ranch LITE ;) ) Then I went on-line & looked up the calorie count for a regular serving of all those foods. Some are harder than others to decipher, because hey... I make my own sweet tea and I put 1.5 cups sugar to a gallon, and while I can count in simple terms, I simply am not math-minded enough to decipher what an 8oz serving glass would equal in calories. And going out to eat can be pretty tricky sometimes. But with some practice (& looking up everything online! - & coming here for guidance! ) I finally got the hang of it.

I went online to find a calorie calculator (google calorie calculator, it's easy) to find out how many calories *I* should eat for my size & to lose weight (healthy, safely!). Then I built my own food log in FitDay (just one of many calorie trackers out there!!!) and now I adjust that caloric intake for however much weight I lose so I can keep on losing, until I'm ready to maintain. (192 lb me ate a different amount of calories than the current 153 lb me eats.)

I EAT ALL THE FOODS I LOVE. I never eat anything I don't like! No "puffy rice cake" shall ever pass these lips!! No gagging-reflex crappy low-fat anything! Is it OK for me to eat a cheeseburger from time to time? YOU BETCHA! I enjoy pretty much everything - just less of it. And it also makes it easy for me when it comes down to "Do I REALLY want a frozen margarita for 700 calories?" - usually I choose NOT to imbibe, but have a nice 150 calorie glass of wine or a 100 calorie light beer instead.

This is working for me. My weight is decreasing slower than some, but I'll take it... as opposed to not decreasing at all, or worse yet... gaining. :o And I KNOW I can do this "for the rest of my life" because when you eat what you love, there's no "going back to old eating habits". Is it a perfect plan? NO of course not. There are still times when I eat too much. PORTION CONTROL is part of the learning process for me, because I am a binge eater. I can pretty much never say no to a bigger portion of macaroni & cheese (3/4 cup... puh-leeze!!!- gimme that big bowl, LOL!!!) and sometimes I DO have that 700 calorie frozen margarita... But the basic bottom line? "the perfect diet is the foods you'll eat"

Plus, if you're a "kitchen person" (I personally do NOT like to cook & will avoid it at all cost if I can!) then you can experiment with different dishes, figuring out how to make something that's normally fattening into a low-calorie meal.

COME HERE OFTEN! - I consider the true weight loss "experts" to be right here on this forum! -& we're all attempting the same race, tho some of us are doing it slower or longer than others - and remember - it's the END RESULTS you're after. So don't sweat it when you lose a few pounds & then maybe stall for a week or two. Dieting is a forever journey. You will not lose the exact same amount week to week. You may plateau for a couple weeks, or even gain in one week (usually water weight from TOM) - but just stick to what you KNOW works, and eventually the weight WILL come off.

Remember that there are literally hundreds of "diets" & "exercises" out there - but the tried & true method of weight loss? EAT LESS/MOVE MORE. A 1000 ways to do it; but figure out YOUR WAY and then do it. :hug: You can do this!!!