Ideal Protein Diet - Learn from my mistake don't eat CARBS!!




Pookiepotpie2
05-03-2012, 08:09 PM
Learn from my mistake don't eat CARBS!! I went to dinner with my husband last night and I figured it's ok just for this one meal and I ate some carbs not even a lot just not an IP approved meal. I literally felt sick afterwords groggy and nauseous now today I can't stop wanting carbs (I woke up the monster:devil:) I searched my house and found some naughty foods. I had a bunch out on the kitchen counter and I was going to pig out. I was going to come here but I felt ashamed:cry: Luckily a friend texted me at that moment to see what I was up to. I told them the truth and they helped me I ran water on all of it and threw it away and made eggs and spinach but still it was horrible. Please please if your thinking "just for this time" it will be ok remember it might lead you to where I am at today!!! I want to share this so no one else has to feel physically and emotionally how I felt the past 24 hours. Now I am forgiving myself, dusting off and getting back on track. I will go low carb no restricted for a few days and hope I can make up for my moment of weakness.:kickbutt:


purple sky
05-03-2012, 08:29 PM
Ah, it was a test.

JoesHotWife
05-03-2012, 09:24 PM
Good for dusting yourself off...might want to stay away from the extras with splenda in it till the monster goes away. Stevia should be ok. Go to bed early if you need to.


Kaypix
05-03-2012, 09:37 PM
Did you have cravings when you first started? I'm curious if that helps determine whether we'd get cravings after we go off plan for a while or phase down...

purple sky
05-03-2012, 11:08 PM
Did you have cravings when you first started? I'm curious if that helps determine whether we'd get cravings after we go off plan for a while or phase down...

My cravings were out of control around TOM. So, it was always a struggle then for me. A few times I had an extra packet or restricted but it would be a huge challenge for that week or two or three sometimes.

I will say this, watching my cravings on P3, I do believe that carbs can wake up the sleeping monster. I had to catch myself. A couple times I would have a bar and then I was dipping into the second one right after. The carb monster was awake. I had to overpower it but it wasn't easy.

hatgirlie
05-04-2012, 01:11 AM
The same thing happened to me last year about this time. I was doing fantastic for four and a half months...I thought the same thing...Just this one time, because I've been doing so well. Hello Carb Monster! It took me several months to get back on track! Gained a bunch of weight back. I can't tell you how much I regret that, and wish I could undo it. Oh well...

ProteinGal
05-04-2012, 01:20 AM
I know the feeling too well. Glad you got your horses by the reigns and best wishes getting through detox, you can do it girl!

shathom
05-04-2012, 09:01 AM
Hang in there, you can do this girl! We're all pulling for you.

Does anyone else feel tempted when shopping the grocery store? I feel like I have my worst time battling the carb monster in there.

CassiR
05-04-2012, 09:09 AM
Does anyone else feel tempted when shopping the grocery store? I feel like I have my worst time battling the carb monster in there.

LOL that's why I like to do my grocery shopping saturday mornings, right after my weigh ins!

MustangMolly
05-04-2012, 09:25 AM
Good morning everyone. Good luck Pookie getting back on the wagon, and thanks for sharing your experience with us. That is a great example of the support we can all get here on 3FC and how we can benefit from each others experiences whether they are good or bad. I'm about to go on vacation and have almost all my evening meals planned. We'll be eating out for two suppers but it is surprising how easy it has become to order IP food when I'm eating out. I hope everyone has a great weekend.

evepet
05-04-2012, 10:28 AM
Learn from my mistake don't eat CARBS!! ... I want to share this so no one else has to feel physically and emotionally how I felt the past 24 hours. ..:kickbutt:

Thank you for posting this Pookie. It provides a great reinforcement to me to stick 100% OP. I really appreciate your sharing in this way to help us.
Hope you're past this stage soon, and back in the flow soon.

ProteinGal
05-04-2012, 10:56 AM
Hang in there, you can do this girl! We're all pulling for you.

Does anyone else feel tempted when shopping the grocery store? I feel like I have my worst time battling the carb monster in there.

I too go right after my Monday weigh ins. Ketosis is taking care of all my cravings and temptations. I have no desire to eat carby foods. Really, one only has to go to two parts of the grocery store, the meat dept and veggie dept, but yeah, I guess if you have children to feed it can bite you ;)

Samba
05-04-2012, 11:34 AM
I have not been tempted to a high enough degree to eat off plan and have a
carbish meal. Gotta say, I am glad you posted about it! It will help me stick with it as I am sufficiently afraid to get outside the box now! I have spent my life with cravings for carbs. *sigh*. Sure have to find a way to not return there, ever. It literally is the fight of and for my life, it seems.

As far as shopping, yes, I am a bit freaked out in the grocery store! I have said it is like hiding an alcoholics groceries in the liquor store and then sending them in to get their food! Now, that I kind of have a very singular path that I take through the store it is better. I do sort of say WOW when I get off the beaten path in there. I see the American diet and food stock with different eyes now. I believe I was starving in a sea of food before. I was fat, but undernourished!

Dakin
05-04-2012, 11:51 AM
Thanks for posting this... it is very helpful for us to all firm up our resolve.
I'm glad you reigned in the beast and got back OP.
I've been tempted lately by things that I don't normally even look at, so I can imagine how easy the beast is to wake up.
Have a great weekend!

KBig
05-04-2012, 12:03 PM
Question as a noob to this....

Once reaching your goal means you can never enjoy carbs again?

Hasnt it always been about MODERATION???

I find it difficult that someone who has loss a great deal of weight by managing their diet and exercise, can never eat carbs or a non IP meal or drink alcohol AGAIN?

I dont quite understand the mentality around this.

any thoughts?

ProteinGal
05-04-2012, 12:20 PM
KBig, of course not, you will enjoy your carbs again, they will be there waiting for you once you get to goal, but of course its a learning progress through all the phases.

The program has a beginning and an end with four specific phases to not only help you lose the weight, but be taught how to eat and exercise properly to ensure that you will keep it off once you've completed the program.

murleya1
05-04-2012, 12:25 PM
Hang in there, you can do this girl! We're all pulling for you.

Does anyone else feel tempted when shopping the grocery store? I feel like I have my worst time battling the carb monster in there.

Trick to grocery shopping is tunnel vision. Try staying on the edges. The only isle I go down are the frozen veggies isle and the spices. Then when you are in the checkout line be sure not to look at the impulse buy stuff.

murleya1
05-04-2012, 12:28 PM
KBig, of course not, you will enjoy your carbs again, they will be there waiting for you once you get to goal, but of course its a learning progress through all the phases.

The program has a beginning and an end with four specific phases to not only help you lose the weight, but be taught how to eat and exercise properly to ensure that you will keep it off once you've completed the program.

I phased off for a couple months. Carbs will be a battle forever. When they are back in your diet it is hard not to over do it. I really consider myself a junkie. Eating just a few sugary treats and you lose your mind and Over Dose.

purple sky
05-04-2012, 01:50 PM
Some can and some can't. It will be a matter of finding out what works for your body. In maintenance you get one "cheat day." This where you eat whatever you want, literally and the next day you go back and do a P1 day to reset your pancreas. But, during the week you are not necessarily eating all the carbs you denied yourself while on P1.

But, everyone is different. While we lose the weight similarly and with a similar protocol in P1, maintaining is different for everyone because of how our body reacts to the re-introduction of carbs. Some believe they will start and not stop and gain all the weight back. Some have control over it and some don't. Because we all have different histories regarding weight gain, keeping it off will vary.

I don't see "cheating" as the big-bad-evil because honestly at some point in time you have to get these items back in your life. It is simply unwise and costly to do so while on P1. Who wants to see the scale go back up or relive those first few days of entering ketosis let alone pay for the setback? But, it's not a bad thing, in my opinion. The IPers who do it accidentally or intentionally are not bad. We have got to get rid of that thinking. We make ourselves feel bad. It's just rough on us. We make others feel bad. It's lose-lose. And right now we have it rough enough trying to live and remain on this diet. It's really, really strict and really, really limiting. Really.

I also had a lot of trouble in the grocery store before. It used to freak me out that I had to pass up like 80% of it. Now, I don't like or want any of that stuff.

In my head a piece of cake may look good or taste good but in my tummy it might be a different thing. My body is no longer used to sugary processed foods.

The greatest issue that I suspect may be a long term challenge for me will be social. Eating out and eating with others. Choices are so limited and nothing is as tasty as I make at home.

lizfromvt
05-04-2012, 03:19 PM
Thanks for the reminder! I am doing this diet with my husband. He had it in his mind that once he lost 85 pounds he was going to have a cheat day. He waited a couple of weeks after he hit his goal, so that we would be out of town at some of his favorite restaurants. He honestly did not like anything he ate. He kept trying different things for 24 hours. Nothing tasted good to him, and he felt awful. He also gained about 8 pounds, which was mostly water weight ( he ate A LOT of salt), and it was gone in 5 days.

My coach has been telling me since the beginning, that food will not taste the same and you will not want it. I didn't believe her. I really do now. Especially since I don't think I saw my husband eat 20 vegetables in the 20 years we have been together, to have him say he did not enjoy pizza or Chinese food, made me love this program even more!!!

audgirl78
05-04-2012, 04:40 PM
Good morning everyone. Good luck Pookie getting back on the wagon, and thanks for sharing your experience with us. That is a great example of the support we can all get here on 3FC and how we can benefit from each others experiences whether they are good or bad. I'm about to go on vacation and have almost all my evening meals planned. We'll be eating out for two suppers but it is surprising how easy it has become to order IP food when I'm eating out. I hope everyone has a great weekend.

So Molly, I can use some pointers. I think I will be in P2 or hopefully P3 by mid-June when I go on my vacation. I will be going to a wedding and some dinner/shows. What are some suggestions for me to not gain weight when I'm out west? This is a huge fear for me. It's taken me this long to lose it and I know how fast I put it on...

Thanks for thee tips and help.

New Englander
05-04-2012, 06:45 PM
Good timing on your friends part!!! I also throw stuff out to avoid eating it... Keep your great head on your shoulders because it will take you through the rest of your life! (Duh, w/o it you'd be dead...) Anyway. I just meant you made good choices by getting right back on track. I began maintenance and while the food is wonderful...doing ONE "fun" day can be difficult...it's a process...a journey...a lifestyle! Keep going! :)

zoyaka
05-04-2012, 07:04 PM
Thank you so much for sharing! Yesterday I had a little scare, felt stomach cramps, like UTI is starting (oh no, not again! and I cannot have cranberry juice!). Anyway, I went to RiteAid to get something like AZO to be able wait till the doctor's visit and there are several different OTC meds for this condition. AZO had warning: may interfere with glucose or ketone tests. I took another one with the different ingredients and had Blueberry Cran-Granata drink after. It was so hard to decide - do I want pain killer that will kick me out of ketosis or else. GOOD LUCK! The cravings will be gone soon!

Pookiepotpie2
05-04-2012, 08:59 PM
Hello all,

I wanted to follow up and let you know that I have had a 100% OP day and I am feeling good the cravings are gone. That was a close call and a great learning lesson thank you all for all the encouragement :hug:

Samba
05-04-2012, 10:29 PM
Pookie- So good to hear this!!

I am one who will never be able to return to my previous carb intake. I am very carb sensitive. It is an injustice, but the reality of the genetics. There is no way that exercise could win the day for me either. Research on the exercise stuff is pretty good. Mostly it is about what I eat. Carbs mean fat for me.

After IP, I plan to adopt a low carb lifestyle. I heard today of two people who had great losses on IP. They began consuming carbs of some signifigance again. Unfortunatly both have regained 50 lbs. The same would be in store for me if I don't live pretty darn carb restricted. Everyone is unique in the intake they can withstand.

Chloe222
05-05-2012, 09:37 AM
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The greatest issue that I suspect may be a long term challenge for me will be social. Eating out and eating with others. Choices are so limited and nothing is as tasty as I make at home.
Purple Sky,
I agree with you - eating out and eating with others isn't as much fun as it used to be, by far.

A strategy that has worked well for me while on IP has been to eat my meal BEFORE I go out to "dinner" or to someone's house for dinner. I take my own salad dressing so in effect, I just have salad and WF dressing and maybe a tiny piece of a plain pure protein if available, otherwise, I'm having very little. Very few people notice and no one really cares except that I now look like I've lost a fair amount of weight and women comment on that.

But, it seems, people really don't care how much or what you really eat as long as you appear to be eating...Sounds strange perhaps. I focus on other people much more, keep folks talking about their lives, their upcoming vacations, and its more interesting that way anyway.

So Molly, I can use some pointers. I think I will be in P2 or hopefully P3 by mid-June when I go on my vacation. I will be going to a wedding and some dinner/shows. What are some suggestions for me to not gain weight when I'm out west? This is a huge fear for me. It's taken me this long to lose it and I know how fast I put it on...

Thanks for thee tips and help.
My tip: Phase off properly!

I worked w/ Wuv to come up w/ a vacation phase off strategy as I don't have a coach and am midpoint in my phase 1 weight loss. I'm doing 2 weeks of phase 2 and 2 weeks of phase 3 in preparation for 2 1/2 week European food and wine tour. While on vacation, I will attempt to stay on phase 3 so that means watching the carbs closely but still having a good breakfast and healthy meals for lunch and dinner. I will be taking lots of bars with me.

I will still enjoy many of the foods that will be in front of me and will just give my husband my portion of the wine (he likes that!!) and while I used to drink wine, I stopped all alcohol while on IP and don't have the desire to go back. I already have 3 weeks worth of phase 1 packets and will put a couple days' worth of packets on my kitchen counter so I can't avoid them or conveniently "forget" to go back to the program. As soon as I get home, I'll see them. Plus on the counter will have this little doc I put together called "IP and motivation" - just snippets of things I've found here and there - so I get back to Phase 1 the moment I step back into my home. I'll lose in the first 2 weeks whatever I gained while away, we expect.

Chloe222
05-05-2012, 09:57 AM
Samba,
I am also pretty carb sensitive and since being on IP, my arthritis is largely gone. Had it in my feet, hands, neck and lower back. So, for me, lots of non-scale benefits to living low carb and staying at a lower weight. My cholesterol also went from 222 (in Jan 2012) to 158 (May 2012).

So I've been recently buying some books on living low carb, cookbooks, finding low carb food sources (websites), etc. in preparation for living low carb in the most satisfying way. Just started doing this so open to any suggestions anyone has in this regard. Also looking into having more vegan meals post IP - but will probably always be a carnivore.

swimcoachmomma
05-05-2012, 01:49 PM
Hang in there, you can do this girl! We're all pulling for you.

Does anyone else feel tempted when shopping the grocery store? I feel like I have my worst time battling the carb monster in there.

Early on I felt like everything carb was attacking me. Walmart was like running the gauntlet. Even those nasty little Debbie snacks were calling me. You are tougher than all of that. Keep repeating "that snack is not worth giving up all of the hard work of the last weeks or months. I am worth this". And you are.

socalgirl83
05-05-2012, 05:46 PM
Grocery shopping is really difficult for me too especially since I buy for more than just myself and to purchase the rocky road ice cream that I can't eat is difficult. What I've started doing is taking a ready to drink vanilla drink with me and before getting to the store I pick up a black iced coffee and mix it together. While I'm shopping I just sip on that and it makes me feel much better. Recently I've been adding the archer farms (target) sugar free caramel syrup...it tastes so good sometimes I feel like I'm cheating.

evepet
05-05-2012, 06:04 PM
Hello all,

I wanted to follow up and let you know that I have had a 100% OP day and I am feeling good the cravings are gone. That was a close call and a great learning lesson thank you all for all the encouragement :hug:

Glad to hear that you're back on track and no more cravings, etc. Going through the experience vicariously through you is a good learning experience. :)

Mickeymom
05-07-2012, 12:36 PM
I am glad i read this post today. I fell off the wagon this weekend and ate carbs. Now, this morning, i ate fast food plus a whole bag of MM's. and of course i am still hungry. I am a binger and once i fell off, i dove in head first to the junk. I am so mad at myself because now i feel gross, stomach ache, lethargic and frustrated. Why did i do this to myself!!!!!!!
I know i need to stay 100% on plan but i am struggling. The carb craving seems to be controlling me again...........ugghhhhh
I am not new to the plan so i know what I NEED to do i just can't seem to do it.