Weight Loss Support - 5,000 calorie binge in a day... Need advice!




natashawashburn
04-30-2012, 12:44 AM
Hey everyone, this ALWAYS happens. Somehow I lost 4.5 pounds in a week, I got down to 137.5 so I decided to give myself a 'cheat' day at a friend's daughter's birthday party. Well that cheat day turned into a large supreme pizza, 20 large cookies, bowl of guacamole, bag of chips, bag of jelly beans, 3 cupcakes, pasta, meatballs loaf of bread AMONG OTHER THINGS, I calculated around 5,000 calories if not more. Now supposedly I've gained 6 pounds (this binge was yesterday) how long does it normally take for your body weight to even back out when you get back on track? I've lost 14 pounds so far, with only 7.5 to go until ultimate goal weight. I feel SO BLOATED! Never ever ever again.

I've never done it THIS bad, and I've been doing so good. :(


JohnP
04-30-2012, 12:58 AM
Wow! You can put it away! I'm impressed!

To answer your question ... fat loss or gain is always a question of calories.

You didn't lose 4.5 lbs of fat in a week - and you didn't gain 6 lbs in a day. That is just your total weight which includes a lot of things including fat.

Arctic Mama
04-30-2012, 01:16 AM
I'm a little impressed, too, I'd be throwing up if I'd eaten that much!

Give it a few days of normal, healthy eating, and your scale should accurately reflect your weight without salt or abnormal water retention affecting it (unless you're heading into your TOM or something else that would make your gain or lose water weight in an unusual swing). Cheat days are a bad idea, you'll likely do better if your daily eating involves a sensible, small calorie deficit and there is room for the occasional 'fun' food, if that isn't your current plan. Crazy binges don't help anything on the scale or in terms of developing lifelong, healthy habits.

This isn't the end of the world, but I'd recommend against a repeat performance unless you're in a professional eating competition (I'm still somewhat impressed by your quantity! ;) )


Jalsa
04-30-2012, 01:34 AM
Hi Natasha

Try the Chicks in Control forum -

Brummy
04-30-2012, 02:00 AM
Wow thats alot of food,even on my cheat days id struggle to put that away. The thing I do is make sure I cheat only on days I have a heavy lifting and cardio session.

tinkerbelll
04-30-2012, 02:37 AM
i don't understand why everyone keeps commenting about how much food you ate & saying things like WOW YOU CAN REALLY EAT A LOT type comments, as if thats helpful or even necessary??? And act as if they've never overeaten like that, or worse! I can guarantee you everyone has, esp the people making them comments.

Sorry couldn't help myself..them comments were getting on my last nervous!

OK so now were past that..lol:D your definitely NOT alone. I just went on a "few weeks" binge eating nothing but junk, so don't feel too bad we've all done this (despite what people try & claim lol) & speaking from experience, usually when I get back on the wagon of clean eating, w/in 1-3 days I'm back down the weight iv gain during my "binges". I know everyones different, but I bet you'll lose the weight you've gained w/in a few days to a week. BC alot of its salt retention & your bodies like "WTF?!?!" lol then once you go back to your healthy eating, its like "AHHHH OK BETTER" lol

DOnt worry about it, just pick yourself up and continue on your journey.
You can do it!! :hug:

melodymist
04-30-2012, 02:52 AM
Just get back on track ;) Give your weight a few days to get back to normal.

chickadee32
04-30-2012, 02:58 AM
And act as if they've never overeaten like that, or worse! I can guarantee you everyone has, esp the people making them comments.

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so don't feel too bad we've all done this (despite what people try & claim lol)

I'm sorry, but no. Yes, everyone has over-eaten before and everyone strays off-plan at times (sometimes wildly off-plan), but what the OP described is binge eating, and that is a specific behavior that many people have never engaged in or struggled with. No one who commented criticized the OP; they gave her answers to her questions and some sound advice (such as finding an eating plan that might help prevent binges, and visiting the Chicks in Control sub-forum, which deals with binge eating and other issues).

OP, I hate to tell you, but you likely consumed closer to 10,000 calories based on what you describe. But, subtracting your maintenance calories, that probably equates to something like 2.5 lbs of fat gain, not 6 lbs. When I over-eat or eat very different foods, my scale stays up for anywhere from a few days to a week. I'd get back on plan and wait a week to weigh again, and by that time chances are you'll only see a gain of a pound or so from your pre-binge weight. I'd also second the recommendation to visit the Chicks in Control forum, where you'll find more people who have experience with binge eating (since you mentioned that this has happened before). Don't beat yourself up over the binge; just try to find a strategy for the future. :hug:

Misa66
04-30-2012, 03:32 AM
After eating fatty foods or a day when I don't watch what I eat, usually of I get right back on track it takes me about 3-5 days to get back to the same weight I was at before the binge. I suggest drinking lots of water and maybe green tea to a) flush out all that sodium you ingested and b) the green tea might help your metabolisim speed up a little :)

And also of I think it's better to have a "cheat" meal than a cheat day. With a meal you can maybe at the most over eat 1000 calories whereas the whole day you can go a couple thousand :(

Samantha18
04-30-2012, 05:32 AM
Today was my cheat day too! It was my first one, and I haven't eaten this much since I don't even know when :/. I'm seriously wondering why my control ran away from me today. I had 3,400 hundred calories today, mostly thanks to fast food (tacos, pizza, ice cream...), and it feels crappy. So first I want to give you a hug, 'cause I know how you feel right now. -hugs-!

We shouldn't have even logged our cheat days, kind of defeats the purpose of a cheat day in a way. I was bored and decided to, though it probably wasn't smart. But we can learn from this for our next cheat day! Cheat days don't mean we have to go wild, instead we should just allow ourselves a treat or two. Like, I really didn't need 3 tacos... one or two would have satisfying...

Don't beat yourself up over it! It's probably only a pound, maybe 2 at the MOST. 3,500 = 1 pound. You went maybe 3,000 over? And that's not even counting whatever deficit you created during the week. Most of that weight is probably sodium from the junk food, and it will balance back out once you get back on track! Is a couple pounds a big deal in the big picture? Not at all! So don't beat yourself up over it, tomorrow is a new day.

pixelllate
04-30-2012, 09:32 AM
I've put away 4000+ cals a day regularly (1.5 loafs of bread, jar of Nutella and some donuts will do the trick). I would focus on not panicking first, and just eating a "normal" amount of food the next day-the food you would regularly eat-even if its not at a deficit. Taking the time to just eat calmly for a few days or more before going back to eating at a deficit helps. Also, I do panic easily when I start to lose a few lbs. What I do is I develop a routine of what I eat-a certain amt of veggies, eat etc and so I am at deficit without needing to count the cals-that way I don't freak out. I don't look in the mirror too much or focus on loss, I just do my routine and thats it.

bargoo
04-30-2012, 10:01 AM
That days worth of food looks like it had a lot of sodium, salt will cause you to retain water. As has already been said , get back on track, put this behind you and do not beat yourself up over it.
I never have cheat days but I do sometimes fall into a jar of peanut butter for that reason I do not buy peanut butter you will not find a jar of peanut butter in my home.

gardend1va
04-30-2012, 10:07 AM
The great thing about food and calories is the damage is never permanent. We will eventually burn them off if we resume sensible eating habits, and there will be no lingering reminders of the overeating event.

I am about the same size you are, and am about the same place in my weightloss endeavor, and I have also begun to struggle a bit these past few days to stay on plan. I had a wedding shower and a dinner out with friends this weekend, and even though I tried to be sensible, I know I was way over budget and part of me didn't care. I wish you success in getting your mojo back, and share in your frustration of having come more than halfway to goal and hitting a speed bump. Let's both of us treat it like a real life speed bump and get over it and keep on rolling!

krampus
04-30-2012, 10:51 AM
I've had epic binges that resulted in 5-10 lb overnight "gains." Usually takes me 3-4 days to get back to the "before" weight (I don't starve, just try to eat at loss calories), but I know I gain and lose water weight very quickly.

I am impressed by the quantity of your binge - I have struggled a lot with binges before and I figure the only way to get through it is to laugh, otherwise I'd cry.

mammasita
04-30-2012, 11:03 AM
oh yeah, I've been there too, and the messed up thing is I have continued to eat even though I am in PHYSICAL PAIN from eating so damn much. I agree about your weight regulating in a couple days.

Beach Patrol
04-30-2012, 11:33 AM
Hey everyone, this ALWAYS happens. Somehow I lost 4.5 pounds in a week, I got down to 137.5 so I decided to give myself a 'cheat' day at a friend's daughter's birthday party. Well that cheat day turned into a large supreme pizza, 20 large cookies, bowl of guacamole, bag of chips, bag of jelly beans, 3 cupcakes, pasta, meatballs loaf of bread AMONG OTHER THINGS, I calculated around 5,000 calories if not more. Now supposedly I've gained 6 pounds (this binge was yesterday) how long does it normally take for your body weight to even back out when you get back on track? I've lost 14 pounds so far, with only 7.5 to go until ultimate goal weight. I feel SO BLOATED! Never ever ever again.

I've never done it THIS bad, and I've been doing so good. :(
I'm a binge eater, & I've really been working on NOT binging, but sometimes I still do (altho it's been a while since I had a major blow-out binge like what you've described) it usually takes me a week for the scale to register back down to the normal number it was pre-binge. And like you said, I ALWAYS feel like crap after I've bongo-binged like that, so I know what you mean about bloated - not just over-full, but really, seriously, uber-bloated. Literally feels like you will explode! Painful, sickening, yuckaroo!

And just by reading your post, I'd like to take this opportunity to suggest you earnestly search your soul for why you would do that to yourself (if you haven't done so already) because it's truly a form of self-abuse, and too much of it can do your body great harm.

:hug:

debigulating
04-30-2012, 11:38 AM
Yeah, I agree with above. It takes me a good week of careful, conscious eating to undo what I can do in a binge like the one you've described. My downfall is once I have the epic binge, I find it very difficult to stop and get back on track - I settle for mini-binges for several days (because hey, at least they aren't epic binges) and then eventually, headachey, tired, irritable, and bloated, I acknowledge that I just have to stop. And in those cases it can take 2-3 weeks to normalize to any degree.

Gabe
04-30-2012, 12:16 PM
The way I sort of figure it is this:

Life happens. If we're going to be on a plan for the rest of our lives--and, believe me, in my case, it will be for the rest of our lives--then one day isn't and shouldn't mess everything up. I respectfully disagree with the idea that one must never have a crazy calorie day. I didn't get to where I was from one bad day; I got to where I was from thousands of bad days.

That being said, if you feel like crap after...well, there's your motivation for not doing it again. I had one of those this weekend; I had eye surgery, which made me miserable. I also had Vicodin for the pain, which made me want to eat sugar out of the freaking bag.

I let myself. Why, you might ask? Well, my plan is an every day plan. My plan is a lifestyle change. My lifestyle does not involve white-knuckling it through a miserable day where I'm on freaking opiates and can't even freaking see. My lifestyle says that, on days when I have eye surgery, I can have ice cream, because eye surgery sucks. If it happens once, it's not a problem. The tricky part is making sure that you don't find a thousand different excuses for a thousand different days. That's where discipline comes in, but you've been on plan a while. You have that. Trust in that, embrace it, and don't beat yourself up.

You just keep on keeping on as you have been, and the bloating will go away, and the pounds will continue coming off.

LAKERSKB24
04-30-2012, 02:51 PM
tinkerbelll - I AGREE with the first paragraph of your post..that's what I was wondering too - why those type of comments. :S

Anyway, to the OP, I've certainly been there, and probably more. Give it 3-4 days, know that it will come back down in time.

samcakes
04-30-2012, 03:04 PM
i did this right before i started my diet. i ate 2 gigantic burritos, 2 wonka bars, some ho ho's, a 42 oz soda, a cheese quesodilla (know i spelled that wrong) a half bag of chocolates, and then i went home and ate dinner with my family. and i acted like i didnt eat anything at all that day, so i had an excuse to eat a big dinner.

its hard to stop once you start. i just went to my godsons birthday, and i overate that day, not even as bad as i could have, and i have been struggling to get back on track ever since.

i have decided that i will schedule one cheat day every month. and i will only take advantage of that cheat day if i have done well that whole month

i dont deny myself goodies if i want some, i just try to do it in moderation, and i am hoping that my scheduled cheat day will end up being a bust, and that it will remind me how terrible i feel when i overeat.

btw, i dont plan on binging on my cheat day, i actually have the meal planned in advance, but it is definitely high calorie! lobster and shrimp scampi (lots of noodles... and real butter) and a big slice of cheesecake for dessert.

Charmed7
04-30-2012, 03:59 PM
It can take me a week to get back to weight, and a week to start losing again. My log shows my end of March weight is the same as end of april b/c I had a hard time getting back in full control. (Mine issues were more stress and family stuff).

I try to treat myself to non-food treats, like a pedicure or new clothes. Not that it always works ;)

C7

Arctic Mama
04-30-2012, 05:06 PM
tinkerbelll - I AGREE with the first paragraph of your post..that's what I was wondering too - why those type of comments. :S

Anyway, to the OP, I've certainly been there, and probably more. Give it 3-4 days, know that it will come back down in time.

That is a pretty extreme binge by any standard, and a little levity does no harm. The point of the posts was that even with such a massive binge it isn't the end of the world, particularly if the way of eating isn't one that is so restrictive it triggers more binges. But when a poster feels cruddy about what they did, what happened, or how they feel, it can be quite helpful to put it in perspective and have a laugh at it. Otherwise you just get dragged down by failure.

Humor is healthy, even in nasty situations like calorie blowouts. Learning to take a step back from 'failure' and look at the situation objectively, even finding some humor or an 'upside', can aid in the process of filing the experience away as 'ancient history' and marching onward. That is how we continue to lose weight for years on end without ever giving up or quitting on ourselves - every day is fresh, it's not the end of the world, and we are the sum of a million small decisions. One or two bad ones regarding food does not make or break the effort.

Lighten up, smile a bit, and take my advice on this - the sooner you diffuse the emotional bomb that is a binge, the sooner you can heal and stop resorting to self-destructive, punishing behaviors. That goes for you, if you suffer in this way, the OP, and myself, too!

JohnP
04-30-2012, 06:02 PM
I'll admit I didn't think about any negative connetations to my comment.

With guys (at least the ones I know) there is a bit of bragging that goes on about how much one can eat. What can I say ... we're juvenile.