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Nadya
04-27-2012, 03:48 PM
I weigh myself every Friday and normally I see about a two pound loss. This week I saw none. I'm really frustrated by this and I don't understand what happened so I thought maybe someone could give me some insight.

I weighed 153.8 last week. I weigh 153.6 now so basically the same thing.

I wore the same exact clothes, no shoes.

I'm starting to get cramps a little so my TOM should be hitting within the next week (lovely!). I'm wondering if this is causing some sort of strange shift...

I've been doing a little strength training, only upper body, but mostly cardio. I've really gotten into reading while walking so I do about an hour each time. I've done this almost every day for the past week just for the pleasure of it.

I could have sworn my diet was under control, that I wasn't eating mass amounts of food, but now I'm not so sure.

I don't feel "thicker", my stomach doesn't feel bloated, and I look just fine.

Body fat percentage is still high, got a long way to go, but I don't think it's increased. I just emailed my trainer to ask for my old body fat percentage figure to see exactly how much it's changed.

I'm stronger than I was before, I can feel muscles, my endurance is better, etc.. But that stupid freaking number... :(

I know, I know, don't get caught up with the numbers. Still, I have a goal and it's not a really insane one - 143 by graduation or at least close to it and I'm still 10 pounds off. :( I know the "logical" conclusion is that I gained muscle but that doesn't really make sense does it? I gained the same amount of muscle mass as fat lost in one week? =/


Lori Bell
04-27-2012, 03:55 PM
How are you tracking your food? Points? Calories?

BUT, it's probably PMS. Lots of people hold or even GAIN during the PMS week.

Nadya
04-27-2012, 04:10 PM
I just do it mentally now, I got kinda sick of writing it down and I know I won't do it forever. I've been doing it mentally for a month or more, this is the first week that I've been like, "Whaaaaa?"

I try to shoot for between 1200 and 1500, I usually fall closer to 1500 by my estimations. Keep in mind that I've been walking for about an hour and having a hard workout every Friday so I'm probably burning about 2200 calories rather than the lowest figure, 1700. I can't imagine that I ate 2200 calories almost every day, I don't even think that's possible. =/

Is it technically my TOM if I haven't actually "started" the grosser part yet? >.> :lol:


LockItUp
04-27-2012, 04:31 PM
It definitely could be your calorie intake. It could be TOM. It could just be water weight unrelated to TOM. Could be a combo of those things.

Side note though, why are you only doing upper body? Some kind of lower body injury?

Anyway, as you will hear over and over again here, weight loss isn't linear. A .2 loss is still a loss. Chances are you won't lose 2 lbs every week, sometimes it will be more, sometimes less, sometimes none. If everything is in line, it will reflect on the scale.

Nadya
04-27-2012, 05:10 PM
I only really do upper body because I rely on walking/jogging/running so much that I hate to make myself sore. I jog now mostly for pleasure and if my legs hurt I'm kinda like ugh, don't wanna... But maybe if I do some it won't sting so much that I can't still jog. :)

LockItUp
04-27-2012, 05:25 PM
I think it'd be worth throwing in some lower body, those are some HUGE muscles to ignore. You don't have to go full out from day one. If you add it little by little you probably won't get too sore. I agree, running isn't quite the same while sore, but when I am sore, running usually helps it go away a little faster.

mkroyer
04-27-2012, 05:32 PM
"gaining muscle" is the LEAST logical conclusion.

Its possible if youd weighed yourself yesterday, or the day before, you would have seen your loss--> but for whatever reason, you are retaining water right now. THAT is the only logical conclusion. You didnt gain muscle, you didnt gain fat (you may not have LOST anythough, given your current "tracking" methods).

ValRock
04-27-2012, 05:49 PM
I think it'd be worth throwing in some lower body, those are some HUGE muscles to ignore. You don't have to go full out from day one. If you add it little by little you probably won't get too sore. I agree, running isn't quite the same while sore, but when I am sore, running usually helps it go away a little faster.

I agree!! Weight training has made running SO Much easier for me. The stronger those muscles are, the easier it is for them to carry you around. Running through leg soreness isn't nearly as bad as trying to carry stuff around with arm soreness, for some reason.

You're probably retaining water. You're lucky, when I retain water the scale jumps up several lbs.

missphalange
04-27-2012, 05:55 PM
This could happen for any number of reasons. Furthermore, sometimes our weight loss isn't immediately reflected on the scale, so it's likely that you will have a larger loss next week or even the week after that, if you stay on track.

However, you DID lose this week, albeit a small amount, so that is proof right there that you are headed in the right direction!

Nadya
04-27-2012, 06:28 PM
"gaining muscle" is the LEAST logical conclusion.

Its possible if youd weighed yourself yesterday, or the day before, you would have seen your loss--> but for whatever reason, you are retaining water right now. THAT is the only logical conclusion. You didnt gain muscle, you didnt gain fat (you may not have LOST anythough, given your current "tracking" methods).

I should reword that. Not the most logical but the most common. You hear it a lot - "Oh, I didn't lose anything because I gained muscle." But if I'm losing, on average, 2 pounds a week, that would have to mean I gained 2 pounds worth of muscle to create that balance and that's insane. Would be pretty cool but yeah, not happening. :lol:

Thanks for the advice everyone, I'm feeling a little better. After I stepped off that scale I was in such a bad mood. =/

ennay
04-27-2012, 07:28 PM
Microanalyzing the why's of week to week is pointless.

Weight loss is not linear. Weight loss, gain or neutral does not equal FAT loss gain or neutral

If three weeks from now nothing is different then it is time to tweak, until then just keep on keeping on.

Nadya
04-27-2012, 07:32 PM
Easier said than done, ennay.

I worked out almost every day. Might have skipped one, two days at most. My calorie intake wasn't excessively high and I was hopeful. I'm trying to race the clock and I'm running out of time. No, it's not a life or death situation and I clearly stated that I know I shouldn't get caught up on the numbers. But when you want something so bad and you have such a short amount of time to get it, it's very easy for you to say don't worry about it, very hard for me, the person working at it, to not care.

Having said that, it's not the first time I've gotten on the scale and seen my weight hold. It's just the first time I've seen it hold with no easily seeable reason. The one other time it happened was because my calorie intake was meh and my workout routine took a dive. But when your calorie intake is fine and your workout routine is pretty good, it can be confusing. Naturally I'd wonder what the cause was.

missphalange
04-27-2012, 07:47 PM
Easier said than done, ennay.

I worked out almost every day. Might have skipped one, two days at most. My calorie intake wasn't excessively high and I was hopeful. I'm trying to race the clock and I'm running out of time. No, it's not a life or death situation and I clearly stated that I know I shouldn't get caught up on the numbers. But when you want something so bad and you have such a short amount of time to get it, it's very easy for you to say don't worry about it, very hard for me, the person working at it, to not care.

Having said that, it's not the first time I've gotten on the scale and seen my weight hold. It's just the first time I've seen it hold with no easily seeable reason. The one other time it happened was because my calorie intake was meh and my workout routine took a dive. But when your calorie intake is fine and your workout routine is pretty good, it can be confusing. Naturally I'd wonder what the cause was.

Like a few people (myself included) said, it's not that your hard work hasn't (or isn't going to) pay off, it's just that it's taking the scale a bit longer to catch up. Think of it as an investment in next week's (or possibly the following week's) weigh in.

I'm sure we all do understand your frustration, but I find it helps to look at the bigger picture on slow weeks. That is what truly matters.

Hang in there!

ValRock
04-27-2012, 08:47 PM
I've lost 99 lbs. NONE of the last 50 have come off in any kind of logical pattern. Often, loss is not linear. A lot of us lose in a sawtooth tragectory. It's normal.

sontaikle
04-28-2012, 02:48 AM
Weight loss isn't linear. You can analyze everything you did and still come up doing it all right and lose nothing. It sucks, but our bodies aren't perfectly little machines that follow mathematical logic.

When I lost weight it was at a rate of 1.8 pounds per week. I never actually lost that amount per week though! Sometimes I lost more, sometimes less and sometimes none at all.

kaplods
04-28-2012, 06:01 AM
Easier said than done, ennay.

I worked out almost every day. Might have skipped one, two days at most. My calorie intake wasn't excessively high and I was hopeful. I'm trying to race the clock and I'm running out of time. No, it's not a life or death situation and I clearly stated that I know I shouldn't get caught up on the numbers. But when you want something so bad and you have such a short amount of time to get it, it's very easy for you to say don't worry about it, very hard for me, the person working at it, to not care.

Having said that, it's not the first time I've gotten on the scale and seen my weight hold. It's just the first time I've seen it hold with no easily seeable reason. The one other time it happened was because my calorie intake was meh and my workout routine took a dive. But when your calorie intake is fine and your workout routine is pretty good, it can be confusing. Naturally I'd wonder what the cause was.

Actually you did not stall - you lost almost a quarter of a pound, which is actually not too shabby, especially with less than 40 lbs to lose. You're interpreting success as failure. Which is the problem with racing the clock, time-based goals.

Of course, racing the clock is tempting, it's how we're taught to lose weight, and it's what most people do, and it's probably one of the biggest reasons most people fail at weight loss. When you have time deadlines even success feels like failure if you're not on or ahead of schedule. And when the deadline comes, if you haven't lost everything you wanted to (even if you lose most of what you wanted to), it feels like total failure rather than partial success. We rob ourselves of the joy of the success, because we focus on the failure.

Another is assuming that a quarter pound loss is a failure rather than a remarkable success. When I started weight loss "this time" I was only losing a little less than a pound a month - at nearly 400 lbs. That's about what you lost this week. I complained to my doctor that "I should be able to lose at least 2 lbs a week like a normal person," and my doctor set me straight. He said that "most people" can't lose even one pound a month. Either because their bodies won't cooperate, or because they get frustrated at losing slower than they want to and they give up. He reminded me that even one pound a month was extraordinary, because most people don't do it.

You can worry, stress, and rage at the fact that you only lost .2 lbs, but the fact is losing .2 pounds is not only success, it's remarkable success.


You can wonder and worry and rage all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that sometimes there is no easily seeable reason. And past performance doesn't always predict future performance when it comes to weight loss (I never lost this slowly with any previous weight loss attempt. I always lost rapidly and consistently in the past - and now I can't. Just a few years and a few health issues later, and my body just won't do what it used to do). You can't compare your weight loss to anyone else's - not even former versions of yourself. You're not the person you were before, you're the person you are now, and tomorrow or next week things may change again.

There are a bazillion reasons for a gain or stall on the scale - reasons that don't have anything to do with doing anything wrong. Could be TOM (and some women gain at ovulation, some gain during their period, and some lucky women do both). Could be carbohydrate level. It takes more water to digest/process carbohydrates so if your carb intake was higher than your normal this week, you could be retaining water. Injury, illness, and muscle building/repair also require extra water. If your workouts are beyond your usual normal, you can also see stalls and gain because of that extra water the body is keeping and using. Stress and sleep deprivation can also cause weight loss to slow..

There's absolutely no way to even hazzard a guess as to why this happened. You can wonder and worry all you want, you're not going to get an answer because there isn't one. Weight loss just doesn't work that way. If you've never had it happen before, that doesn't change the fact. You were extraordinarily lucky in the past not to have experienced it. Instead of lucky, you're now completely normal (actually, you're still extraordinary because most people who want to lose weight don't even lose the .2 lbs you've lost.

And worrying about it can actually cause or contribute to weight loss stalls, because one of the body's reactions to stress is to shut down metabolism. Worry not only releases stress hormones like cortisone it can intefere with sleep. Sleep deprivation also produces the same stress hormones.


It may be harder said than done, but it really is essential not to stress and obsess over the numbers, or trying to force the numbers to follow the pattern you want it to. It just isn't going to happen unless you're extraordinarily lucky (and most people just aren't that lucky - and even if you are, it's still out of your control).

Ironically the worrying and stressing you're doing over trying to race the clock to meet the deadline may actually be contributing if not causing the weight loss t slow.

Nadya
04-28-2012, 11:18 AM
Ugggh, carbs, that's gotta be it. I've probably had too many carbs, my breakfasts have not been good at all, son of a gun. >.< *pushes home fries away* According to Fitday these things pack ~30 grams of carbs and the cooks here kinda just pile them on, I think you can get almost two full servings some mornings. So even though I'm counting my calories, I bet my carbs have been through the roof. I've actually been trying to cut back on them the past few days. I watched Fat Head and thought it made sense so it's ironic that carbs could actually be what caused my weight to hold. I'll be interested to see if I can keep my carbs down to more reasonable levels and see some kind of change a week from now.

And I'm not raging, you keep saying "rage" and that's a really extreme word. I didn't even use any expletives. :lol:

kaplods
04-28-2012, 02:26 PM
I didn't say you did rage, only that you could (and I meant not only you, but others who could). I also didn't mean to use it twice.

But rage really is a good word, because we really are taught to respond to weight loss on a raw, emotional level. Even mild worry isn't necessary, but we're taught that it essentially is. If we're dieting and not angry, upset, anxious, or at least on-edge, we're not doing it right.

Calm, reasonable, relaxed, and even exciting and fun weight loss really is possible. I wish I had learned that thirty years ago.

I'm a mostly optimistic, happy, easy-going person and I just could never sustain the negative emotions associated with weight loss for very long. So eventually, when I got fed up with the negativity and the emotional rollercoaster, I would quit in frustration thinking "this isn't working." I always gave up the weight loss, because I didn't realize I could give up the emotions.

Now, the weight loss is slower, because I've taken the easier, calmer path, but I also have absolutely no desire whatsoever to quit - EVER - and that's because I've taken all the negativity out of the weight loss - so there's nothing to want to quit. Why would I want to quit something that gives me such pleasure.

In our culture, we make weight loss a terrible thing so that it's something terribly unpleasant that we must endure to get what we want.

Instead, we can make weight loss a pleasure that there's no reason to give up. We can pamper ourselves to our desired weight rather than try to punish ourselves there.

Nadya
04-28-2012, 02:47 PM
Well it kind of feels unpleasant because I feel like "the fat girl". No one else is telling me I am and even though my BMI is still high, I know somewhere inside me I'm not really that bad. I'm 10 pounds away, that's nothing in the long run, but I still feel like the fat girl.

Having said that, besides the carbs it's that TOM so I'm getting hit with a double whammy. :lol:

Samantha18
04-28-2012, 11:29 PM
My weight didn't budge for a good week, then I gained two pounds. Now today my weight dropped 4 pounds overnight and I have a two pounds loss altogether. It was my time of month too. It's really hard to stay motivated when the scale stops moving, this is usually when i quit but I just stuck to my plan. It was hard, but worth it. Weight loss can be weird at times, and it helps me to focus on how I'm feeling rather than numbers. Just know that if you are sticking to your plan, it will come off eventually!