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04-02-2012, 03:48 PM
:angel: Welcome Friends :angel:

You've found a great place to come
and vent, share or ask for prayer support.
This is a great group who will be very
encouraging, caring and loving....
....anyone is welcome to join!

A Servant's Prayer --

Jesus, My Jesus....How marvelous are your ways....
Far more splendid than my mind can envision.
What an honor to be chosen by you.
A lowly child I am, but empowered by the Holy Spirit
to fulfill the great hope to which you have called me.
I give myself totally to you, Lord.
Take my imperfect heart and make it perfect.
Peel away the hardness.
Close the doors I have opened to the temptations of this world.
Gently remove the roots of painful memories, sins, doubts and fears.
Discard anything that separates me from you.
Lord, fill the emptiness with the light of your love
that I might be a beacon calling the lost back to you.

To love as you love.....
To serve as you serve.....
To forgive as you forgive.....
Always mindful of my nothingness while doing great
and marvelous things in your name and for your glory.
This I pray, Jesus, in YOUR name ...


04-02-2012, 03:52 PM
This was my April 1st post ~ and such good news; so I will add it to this April thread too ... :D

Had G-R-E-A-T news this AM -- I finally braved the scale and hit a 20-year low for me. I will be weighing myself for the next two days to make sure it sticks though before I change my stats in my signature, but I am so happy to have lost about 2 lbs per month over the winter. All that cycling calories, dancing, hand-weights, toning exercises (which I increased), and upping my calories on those hungry days have paid off ... thank you, GOD!!!

Starting this spring month out right with lots of :sunny: each day ... :flow1:

04-02-2012, 03:55 PM
Now, here's today's post for April 2nd ...

THANKS, WILMA ~ it's been a long haul for sure, but it is so rewarding to see some WL again too; so on we go ... I had lots of other NSV's over the winter too, like thinner fingers, face, arms, and clothes are much looser too.

If it wasn't for my tummy, I'd be a size 18 for my whole body; it's my tummy that requires the larger size, but I am workin' on that too. I have upped my tummy toning exercises and lost 2 inches over that time as well. Hey, it's a victory. I double-checked my WL this am and it's down another 1.5 lbs. I will check one more day (tomorrow) and then change my signature ... :D

I find Good Friday a really hard day for me as I don't feel worthy of what Jesus did for me. Praise God for Easter morning. I don't have to be worthy I have grace!

YES, I agree with you about this; I think that was what GARY was talking about too (mixed emotions on Psalm Sunday). As I was praying about this before bed last night, the LORD reminded of something GOD said to the Israelites when they cried after hearing about their sins. He told them not to cry, but that this was a time of REJOICING and celebration.

It is OK to reflect & be thankful, but JESUS suffers no more -- He is in heaven, on the right hand side of GOD. His work on the cross was finished over 2000 years ago; so now, we can all rejoice and be glad in it!

:wave: HI to BOOTSIE, DURNHELM, GARY, BARGOO, NELLY, KAREN, and all our other friends here ... have a great week, eh? :flow2:

04-02-2012, 07:37 PM
Rosebud my husband and I have been on a wheat free diet for 2 weeks now him 1 week,he is off indigestion medicine, me too, I have lost 6 inches in my waist him I don't know but his belly has shrunk , people coming in say WOW! Also his shingles on the inside are going away, I can even touch his shoulder with out him hollering. It is called Lose the wheat ,Loose the weight by William Davis ,MD and it is Wheat Belly on Facebook. I also have more energy also. At first when I started reading this book I said to myself They just gotta be flat out crazy if they think I am going to give that up! I kept reading then I read where it helped here and there and I went on Wheat Belly on Face book and read .I said Ok will try it for two weeks I am so amazed at the results!

04-02-2012, 08:40 PM
HI BOOTSIE ~ someone on another thread mentioned that book/program too. Actually that idea is not really all that new -- I went on a similar program when I was in my 20's, but I did eat some wheat, just not very much (1 or 2 servings a day).

My question is -- what do you eat for breakfast and lunch besides fruit & eggs? Wheat is in so many things: bread, cereals, buns, pitas, wraps, muffins, crackers, etc. You can't have toast or a sandwich; there goes my breakfast & lunch for me ... :lol:

What do people do who have blood sugar issues? When I try to cut my breads down too low, I seem to get these dizzy spells. Is this similar to a high-protein plan? Can you still eat potatoes, rice, barley, and corn?

I don't usually have bread/wheat for dinner unless it's pasta, or pizza -- which is very rare though (once a month or less). I'd just be lost as what to eat for the other two meals. I could cut muffins & crackers out. Maybe if I did it slowly and replaced them with the foods I mentioned above (rice, corn, barley, and potatoes). Does that include rice crackers & bread; and rice & corn cereals?

I admit I am impressed with your results; but I get nervous about taking out such a huge food group when I have low sugar issues. Have you lost any weight or just the inches so far? I'd love to lose 6" off my tummy! How long do you plan to keep it up?

Oops, that's a lot of questions; sorry about that. It just seems so radical to me, that's all ... ;)

04-03-2012, 09:16 AM
Hi everyone & hope you're having a good day!

Bootsie, that is really cool. I've been toying with the idea of trying wheat-free living but know it's tricky (and often expensive to buy wheat-free substitutes). I've tried pasta made from rice/spelt which is very good and don't mind wheat-free breads but it does make eating out/eating at someone else's house VERY hard. Well, I suppose eating healthy is always hard outside of the home anyway.

I'm going to check out the book. I'd love to do a bit more research on the topic of wheat and would be interested in experimenting with it.

Blessings :)

04-03-2012, 11:01 AM
Well, the 3rd day's a charm -- weighed again this AM and I'm still down; exactly same as yesterday, so I'm going to go change the stats in my signature ... yahoo! :dancer: :dance: :dancer:

BOOTSIE & DERNHELM ~ I will do some investigation into this wheat thing too; already I have thought of other things that can be subbed with, like rice bread & crackers; oatmeal & oat bran cereal; corn/bran cereals; rice cereals; barley, rice, new & sweet potatoes, and corn. We do have a gluten & wheat free section in our grocery store, so I will check that out too ... :)

04-03-2012, 12:37 PM
I have another grandson!!! Brandon Luke was born today weighing in at 7 lbs. 11 oz and is 21 inches long. Both baby and parents are doing well. I can't wait to hold him.

04-03-2012, 01:43 PM
:congrat: GRANDMA ~ oh, that's wonderful; gee, do boys run in your family or what? GARY's kiddies are having the girls; and your sons, the boys ... ;)

04-03-2012, 02:50 PM
Bootsie, my DIL is on a wheat free diet, she eats no wheat and it is tricky to find products with out wheat . Wheat can even be found in vitamin pills and other places you wouldn't expect.
Wilma , congratulations on your new grandson. Aren't they a delight ?
Most of you know I have a new grandaughter, baby Faith is 11 days old and a real cutie, looks like a doll and is so good. I saw her yesterday and she slept the whole time, well almost the whole time she woke up a couple of times, yawned, looked around and went to back to sleep. I wish I could do that !

04-03-2012, 04:41 PM
Rosebud: I had to giggle at your post about the boys. It seems they do run in our family. They are fun though. My mom thinks her great grandchild count should be equal between the sexes and according to her this one should have been a girl. When I told her she says "Another boy?"

Bargoo: I look forward to a little girl one day too. They are so sweet. Be thankful you can hold yours lots. Mine is a province away and I won't see him until May. At least I have one close by to hug. I'm selfish though and want them all close by.

04-03-2012, 05:38 PM
Rosebud: I had to giggle at your post about the boys. It seems they do run in our family. They are fun though. My mom thinks her great grandchild count should be equal between the sexes and according to her this one should have been a girl. When I told her she says "Another boy?"

Bargoo: I look forward to a little girl one day too. They are so sweet. Be thankful you can hold yours lots. Mine is a province away and I won't see him until May. At least I have one close by to hug. I'm selfish though and want them all close by.

Wilma, I had two boys, my brother had two boys, I was the last girl and I love little boys and watching them grow but it was time for something pink in this family.

04-03-2012, 10:02 PM
Wheat is even in cosmetics like lipstick, 1/2 cup rice no potatoes, I stay away from corn also, no bread no cereal, 1/2 cup brown beans, all the meat and other vegetables you want and 1/2 cup of fruit berries the best. Eat uncured meat uncured Ham or Uncured Bacon, eggs cheese all the cheese you want. My indigestion system has done a 90 degree turn to the better. It was so hard for me to believe but get the book and read it for it will give you some great recipes It will tell you better than me for I am still learning. Today I had nuts for you can eat all you want for breakfast and some Pizza made the crust from cauliflower, so good! made my husband beef roast for dinner and he had a pizza omelet for Breakfast. I am going to bed tired for a change, praying for all who got hit by the tornado and thank you Lord for protecting my friends and my home in Fort Worth.

04-03-2012, 10:04 PM
Congratulations Wilma!

04-03-2012, 10:05 PM
Rosebud make sure you read the labels on the glueton free some have wheat.

04-04-2012, 12:49 AM
I just love all the GRAND-baby talk!!!

be back soon when I have time...sooooo busy with "stuff" right now.

04-06-2012, 08:24 AM
Good Friday.... :-(

04-06-2012, 04:05 PM
"Greater LOVE has no one than this -- than to lay down one's life for his friends." ~ John 15:13 (said Jesus)

"(And) You are my friends." ~ John 15:14

"For GOD so loved the world (us) that He gave his only begotten son (Jesus), that whosoever believes in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life." ~ John 3:16

"For GOD did not send His son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. " ~ John 3:17

Gary ~ Jesus said, " And ye now have sorrow, but I will see you again, and your heart shall Rejoice, and your Joy no man will take from you." ~ John 16:22 :hug:

"These things I have spoken to you, that you might have Peace. In the world, you will have tribulations, but be of good cheer: (for) I have overcome the world." ~ John 16:33

"As the Father has Loved me, so have I Loved You: continue ye in my Love!" ~ John 15:9 (our dear <3, Jesus)

04-06-2012, 11:50 PM

Wilma-Congrats on the grandson!

Gary-I always wondered why it was called Good Friday, but then realized that Jesus' sacrifice was for our GOOD! My facebook status today was from a song we sing at church-'Jesus paid it all; all to Him I owe. Sin had left a crimson stain; He washed it white as snow.....Praise the One Who paid my debt!' But, I do understand feeling sad that He had to do it and had to do it because we are sooooo unworthy.

Bargoo-my hubbie's son has given us granddaughters (we have all boys) and they are such fun! Today I printed out some pics of the girls that I took last year and put them in some little Lego-shaped connecting frames--it's so cute! They're all coming for Easter, too!

As I said above, DS1 and his wife & 4 kids are coming for Easter. It'll be 10 of us (Mom usually comes too, but she just can't handle the steps, so she wants to stay home and just have a quiet day). But, I'm so tired from trips to Rochester that I told everyone we're ordering KFC for dinner! I'm to the point I can hardly think. All I have is lists of appointment times and phone calls I need to make to schedule things. DS3 hurt his Achilles tendon area at soccer, so he's in physical therapy every other day for the next 2 weeks. The doc says my hand arthritis is osteoarthritis, which is not really treatable, but may stabilize if I'm careful how I use my hands. She said it's in my toes and possibly shoulders also. But, I also have a cyst or tumor or ?? in my big toe joint at the ball of the foot. The oncologist does believe it's benign, but I have to see a foot specialist to make sure (possible biopsy) and determine if there's a way to treat/shrink the growth as it's getting fairly painful when I walk. But, I can't get in to them until June. Have to see a dermatologist in May for rashes on my feet that the doc believes may be an allergic reaction to my socks or ??

Mom is having allergy testing in prep for her hip replacement. Since she has had major problems in the past, they want to make sure she won't be allergic to the prosthesis. Her back is completely covered with test disks and tape! But, I believe God has been healing her allergy issues, as the prick test for the serious latex allergy she had had in the past was completely normal!!!! Mom was just amazed, but I knew God was working in her body:D

Oh, another thing happened--I have been having quite a bit of pain in one breast. Figured it was mastitis again, but doc didn't think so, so I had to have a mammo today. It was incredibly painful, but everything was normal, so no one knows what's causing the pain. Not caffeine or the monthly, as neither of those apply now, so the advice is to just keep taking ibuprofen and hope it goes away:(

So, I guess I need to go to bed soon, since I have to take Mom to Roch again tomorrow for evaluation on the allergy discs (we have to go Tues and Thurs also). Will be getting up about 6am, which we don't usually do on Saturday, so I'm not going to be staying up to watch any late night crime shows tonight-lol!

Hope everyone has a wonderful Saturday anticipating the resurrection celebration!

04-07-2012, 01:28 AM
Exited Good Friday Service tonight by placing a nail into the Cross...I've done that way too many times in my life...

with my sins....

O Christ, Thou Lamb of God, who takest away the sin of the world, have mercy upon us.

04-07-2012, 08:38 AM
Holy Saturday...solemn...somber...confusion...dark...

sadness :-(

04-07-2012, 12:11 PM
I haven't been here for a whole week. Missed alot ! ;)

EZ I love Easter....Resurrection Day~ I guess I don't focus so much on the sad time of the season, but rather the great Resurrection. Can't have one with out the other, I much more is our joy as we remember the painful time before the Resurrection !

This was my April 1st post ~ and such good news; so I will add it to this April thread too ... :D

Had G-R-E-A-T news this AM -- I finally braved the scale and hit a 20-year low for me.:

Rosebudthis is great!! I am excited for you!:D

Rosebud my husband and I have been on a wheat free diet for 2 weeks now him 1 week,he is off indigestion medicine, me too, I have lost 6 inches in my waist him I don't know but his belly has shrunk , people coming in say WOW!

Bootsie I have looked at low carb and gluten free more recently since my niece has been on that kind of diet. I think it would be a good one for me, but I can't financially afford the foods...and it is alot of work. But I am excited to hear about your success at this wheat free diet. I guess that is yet another version of these other kinds of diets like low carb, gluten free, etc.
I may try again to limit those kinds of foods in my diet when I can.

04-07-2012, 12:11 PM
Ronni ~ gee, you have a lot of health irritants in your life; not real big, but big on pain factor (and in more ways than one) -- so, sending up ^Prayers^ that all of them will be healed and/or corrected very soon!!! Prayers for your trips with your Mom -- you are a very good daughter: and may GOD bless you for it too! :hug:

Nelly ~ thanks, we posted at exactly the same time! :lol: I am just "limiting" my wheat carbs for now, but I still need to eat some to balance my blood sugar levels. We focus on a lot of whole foods as well. I can't justify spending huge extra amounts for specialty breads & products either (I also find that they are low in fiber as well).

I live by the rule -- if I can't find it at our local grocery stores, then it's not in my plan. What I am doing now is working for me, so why change what isn't broke? Plus, we already eat many non-wheat foods like oatmeal, corn, brown rice, barley, beans, new potatoes & sweet potatoes in measured portions as well.

04-07-2012, 12:39 PM
We need to focus on Good Friday and what we did/continue to do to our Lord...

in order to fully grasp Easter Sunday's LOVE and what HE did for us.

04-07-2012, 03:30 PM
Starting this month, I am going to share what I eat each day; I already do this for at least dinner on another thread. I hope when people see that I just eat normal foods and am still losing weight, inches, and sizes -- that they will know that they can too. Here's week one of April ...

Sun, April 1st ~ BF:banana + 1.5 egg omelette w/chz + 1 tst + coffee
LUNCH: veggie pita pizza (homemade); 1 cup of soup
DINNER: roast chicken, small new potato, veggies
SNX: homemade bran muffin; baby carrots; cheeze; tea

Mon, April 2nd ~ BF: medium bagel/peanut butter + coffee
LUNCH: 1 cup of soup; leftover chicken/tomato sandwich
DINNER: pork chop; rice/barley mix; veggies (+sliced tomato)
SNX: banana; cheeze; apple; tea

Tues, April 3rd ~ BF: egg + 1 tst/w chz + banana + coffee
LUNCH: peanut butter & homemade fruit jam sandwich
DINNER: baked fish, kniblet corn, salad
SNX: apple, chz, carrots, cup of soup, hm cocoa

Wed, April 4th ~ BF: 1.5 omelette w/chz + 1 tst + banana + coffee
LUNCH: peanut butter & hm jam sandwich
DINNER: penne pasta & homemade meat/veggie sauce + green beans
SNX: yogurt, chz, carrots, tea

Thurs, April 5th ~ BF: banana + bagel & peanut butter & coffee
LUNCH: 2 cups veggie-mushroom soup + 1 bread/mrg
DINNER: leftover pasta & green beans
SNX: chz, carrots, yogurt, brd/pb, tea

Fri, April 6th ~ BF: eggwich (1 egg/chz/1 tst) + banana + coffee
LUNCH: HM veggie pita pizza + carrots + cherry yogurt
DINNER: chicken patties & onions; salad & tomatoes
SNX: yogurt, almonds, Hm banana-loaf, carrots, chz, tea

Sat, April 7th ~ BF: bagel & peanut butter, banana, coffee
LUNCH: 1.5 omelette w/chz & tst; 1 cup chicken broth soup
DINNER: roasted chicken, small new potato, veggies
SNX: 12 almonds, yogurt, chz, carrots, tea, + ???

04-07-2012, 04:22 PM
I agree Rosebud if it is working don't change! I went down one size now wearing 36 /32 in pants !
On the Wheat diet it is kinda misleading, you not only give up wheat but also oatmeal ,potatoes corn and you are allowed 1/2 cup of brown beans & rice per day can eat as much of the other vegetables left. I can have Dark chocolate which satisfies my sweet tooth. Especially like the Dark chocolate Kisses. Made a cheese cake using a pecan base for the crust and the topping with Dark Chocolate scrapped on top, and it was great too but even better after it sets a day or two. Tomorrow will be a test all that good food gonna have to watch I don't get a hold of something I should not of.

04-07-2012, 08:49 PM
Bootsie ~ yes, I have finally got this one down pat; I just increased my lean protein & veggies to take care of any hunger issues, and that is helping a whole lot. I'm glad it's working for you and your DH, but it's just a bit too limited for me. Hope you all have a good Easter celebration ... :D

04-08-2012, 08:43 AM
He Is Risen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

04-08-2012, 09:56 AM
He is risen, indeed !!Hallejulah !!!!

04-08-2012, 09:56 AM
He Is Risen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


04-08-2012, 03:12 PM

And, because HE lives, so shall we ...


04-08-2012, 03:45 PM
After worship service anyone that wanted to take part could sing in the Hallelujah Chorus from Handel's Messiah, I have always wanted to take part in a Hallelujah Sing. It ws glorious almost everybody stayed and sang along with the choir and the pipe organ.

04-08-2012, 11:24 PM
Christ arose! What a glorious day! Hope everyone's had a fantastic Easter Sunday!

We had a really nice day, but did it the lazy way-ordered KFC and just picked up the meal:D DS1 and family came down and we had a nice day sitting, visiting, and watching movies.

Have a nice Monday:)

04-09-2012, 11:30 AM
He is Risen indeed!!
I had a really relaxing weekend. We had our family event a couple of weeks ago and our kids with our adorable grandson were with DILs family so we were alone for the weekend. It was wierd but kind of nice. I wouldn't want to do it every holiday but DH and I had some time together which was nice.

We skyped with our kids in Ontario and got our first glimpse of our new grandson. How can a person have 2 adorable babies in one family? ;)

I went fabric shopping with a good friend on Saturday. I have a passion for quilting and just about overdosed on the colors out there!

My eating wasn't the best but today I'm back on track eating my veggies again. I'm interested in what I've been reading here about cutting back on wheat products. I'll have to read up more about it. I have also read that you should have your carbs/grains before 3 p.m. I'm not sure why. Again, more research for me to do!

Have a great week everyone!

04-09-2012, 01:23 PM
I have a theological queerie for you all today -- didn't Jesus actually rise on the 3rd day after the crucifixion? I remember Him saying about his own death ... "Tear this temple down, and in 3 days it will rise again" or something like that. The verse was clarified to mean that He was talking about Himself.

3 days from Friday is actually Monday -- today. I suppose that is why they call this day "Easter Monday". So, why do people say that Jesus rose on Sunday, when He actually rose on Monday?

Do the churches do this just so that they can have a special Easter service on the traditional Sunday service day? Hmmm ... DH & I were mulling this over last night. ;)

04-09-2012, 03:49 PM
Rosebud-About the question you asked, we learned that the 3 days were counted as Friday (Passover) being the 1st day, Saturday the 2nd day, and on the 3rd day (Sunday), Jesus rose, so He counted the days as 1, 2, 3, starting with Friday as 1, not Saturday. The resurrection on Sunday is why the disciples began celebrating it on Sunday instead of sticking with the Sabbath Friday evening to Saturday evening, as Jesus had fulfilled the requirements of the law and the Sabbath observance was no longer required. Hope that helps:)

Wilma-Isn't skype wonderful? I love that I can skype my ds at college and SEE how he's doing! And, of course, once you have one adorable grandbaby, they'll all be adorable;) I have also cut back on my wheat products, as I was having terrible issues when I added psyllium fiber to my diet. Cutting back on all of the wheat and adding oatmeal and lots of veggies has helped my situation considerably. Not losing yet, but I haven't been keeping close watch on the actual calorie count each day-too busy running around and eating on the run right now. Hoping that situation resolves soon too.

DS3 has a soccer game tonight, but won't be able to play, as he has a very inflamed Achilles tendon area on his ankle. We have him in physical therapy and the therapist thinks he may be back to full practices next week, depending on how the 'no running' workouts help the area heal.

Wondering if anyone has heard of withdrawal symptoms from long-term benadryl use? Mom had some allergy patch testing started (over 100 patches on her back right now!), but went off her daily 6-8 benadryl tablets after 20 years. She called yesterday totally losing it, due to her 'reaction' to the patches, but the symptoms were nausea, chills, sweating, and hyperactivity. Looking on-line, I found a lot of anecdotal evidence that these symptoms are not actually an allergic reaction, but are withdrawal symptoms. We did call the doctor, who has said the same thing and told her to keep taking the benadryl, as it won't interfere with the testing too much and will keep Mom stable. But, wondering now if most of Mom's 'allergy' symptoms over the years have been withdrawal from stopping the benadryl too suddenly, then thinking she was having allergic reactions, going back on the stuff, stabilizing, stopping it again, reacting, starting it again.......... Anyone have any experience with this or know how to wean someone off benadryl without causing more harm?

Well, anyway, it's about time to head off to get DS3 on the bus for the game and send DS2 back to college for the end of the term. Have a great evening everyone!

04-09-2012, 07:11 PM
Thanks, RONNIE ~ Ok, but if the Sabbath starts at sundown on Friday and goes to sundown on Saturday, that's only one day. Then from sundown Saturday to Sunday is two days. From Sunday to Monday is three ...

Now I believe Jesus died in the morning (around the nineth hour: 9 AM? -- Matthew 27:46) on Friday; so, then He had to have risen by about 9 AM on Monday morning. I know it was in the early morning that Mary found the tomb empty. Matthew 28:1 says this ...

"In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn (on) the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene & the other Mary to the tomb." Then there was an earthquake and an Angel moved the stone from the tomb, and he told Mary to go tell the others that Jesus had risen." pp

Now unless it was becuz Jesus died early Friday morning that it was counted as the first day, is the only way to make sense of it. Yes, he must have been put on the cross very early Friday (or some would say Thursday night) as it says he was already on the cross before the 6th hour (6 AM); and becuz from the 6th to 9th hour it fell totally dark, then He called out, and died at 9 AM.

Jesus said in Mark 9:31 that after He was killed, He shall rise the third day. But in Mark 14, it says that Jesus & his disciples ate the Passover Meal the night before he died, which was before Friday. "And in that evening he came to them (for the passover meal)" v17. That night (Thursday), just as Jesus said, He was taken away (Mark 14:27).

He was taken to PILATE, questioned and released to the priests that same night. Then they beat him & scourged him. Sometime after midnight Thursday night, they took him to Golgotha to be crucified (straight away in the very early morning; vs 15:1).

Mark 15:25 says, they crucified him in the third hour (meaning 3 AM, Friday morning; during the night between Thursday & Friday). He died 6 hours later, at 9 AM on Friday morning.

So, that makes it three (3) days from Thursday night til Sunday -- Thursday to Friday to Saturday to Sunday morning. ;)

OK, now that we've solved that, tell me ... why do we call Monday, Easter Monday??? :shrug:

04-09-2012, 08:50 PM
Rosebud-The Jews did not count the days as starting in the evening, just certain holy days and the Sabbath, so each day was counted as starting in the morning. In fact, they counted the hours of each day as beginning at sunrise or about 6 am, so the 6th hour would have been about noon.

Jesus had to be buried before the beginning of the Sabbath on Friday evening or He wouldn't have been able to be buried until Saturday evening after the sabbath ended. As far as the Passover meal He and the disciples shared, my understanding is they had that meal on Thursday, then went to the garden to pray-I need to do some more research on this, but I don't think that was the actual Passover meal the disciples thought they'd be having, as it was early, but I'm not too familiar with the Jewish traditions, so have to check on this. I heard a great Messianic Jewish pastor speaking on the radio the other night, but didn't get to hear the entire broadcast, so need to find a tape on it. Most of our misunderstandings on Holy week and the time stems from us not knowing how all the Jewish traditions fit together. But, I did find this timeline, if that helps: It also contains scriptural references.:)

I read regularly from the Contemporary English Version Bible and the scriptures in Matthew tell that the sky turned dark at noon on the day Jesus was crucified and stayed dark until 3pm(Matt. 27:45) at which time Jesus shouted (Matt. 27:46). Matt. 28:1 says that the women went to the tomb at daybreak on Sunday, where the angel told them that Jesus wasn't there.

As I understand, the Jewish Sabbath (Saturday, basically) was considered the 7th day of the week, the day of rest, according to the Law, so Sunday was the first day of each week, which is how some of the translations refer to the day the women found Jesus' tomb empty.

Don't know if any of this is helping or hindering, but I had to do a lot of study to understand this too. If I find more info, I'll send you links or book titles. Much of what I learned I've learned from Christian radio messages, too. American Family Radio is a great network with lots of affiliates!

04-09-2012, 09:24 PM
Thanks, RONNIE ~ I agree with you that the "last supper" meal was on Thursday evening; and the disciples did call it the passover feast meal in Matthew 26:17 (also known as the feast of the unleavened bread) -- and Jesus told them where to go to hold this passover meal, then the disciples went and prepared it.

As for the times, boy that sure messes things up doesn't it? So, that means their days and hours are different than we know them to be. I thought that I had heard somewhere that the sky darkened at noon, but we start our days at midnight, but you say the Jews start theirs at dawn. :dizzy:

Then that means that Jesus was crucified about 6 AM Friday morning; the sky darkened between 9 AM to 12 pm noon, then he died ... So, the references in Matthew & Luke to the third day cannot mean that 3 whole days will pass, but only that on the third day after the day of his death, he will rise. It is the only explanation that fits ...

So, we just need to know why we call Monday, Easter Monday; and why it is a holiday in Canada. Is it one in the US?

04-09-2012, 09:33 PM
Traditionally the hours when the sky darkened was between 12 Noon and 3 PM. Many churches have services on Good Friday between 12 Noon and 3PM, I have been to many of them.
The Jewish calendar is nothing like the calendar that we use today.
The Jewish day starts at sunset.
I thought I had heard that and just googled it and several souces say the same thing.

04-09-2012, 10:05 PM
You gals rock!

Luke 24

Jesus Has Risen

1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. 2 They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3 but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.

04-09-2012, 10:26 PM
In Hebrew usage, parts of days at the beginning and end of a period were counted as days.

04-10-2012, 04:58 PM
BARGOO ~ Interesting, if you look at my first post, you'll see where I mentioned that their day started at sundown (or dusk), which is what I had always believed. Wow, there are sure many different versions, aren't there?

According to your time table, Jesus was crucified at 9 AM; sky darkened at noon to 3 pm; then He died ... One of our local churches did have a big ecumenical service on Friday; will check the time on that.

Thanks for your input, GARY.

Some day, I may find out the answer to my last question; I'll keep asking and searching until I do ... :lol:

04-10-2012, 08:20 PM
Here is a link to Angie and her daughter, Lara, playing bells for Good Friday service....Angie is on the right of the draped cross and is too dark to see.

04-10-2012, 09:40 PM
Thanks, Gary ~ I love hearing them play ... :D

04-10-2012, 11:08 PM
Back to the 3 days...

it wasn't 24 hour periods.

Kind of like this ~ My boss calls me for my time...Where did you work this week?...I worked on X job....What days?...I worked Fri Sat and Sun...How many hours each day?...I worked 6 on Fri 2 on Sat and 4 on Sun...

04-10-2012, 11:20 PM
Rosebud-Waaaaaayyy, waaaayyy back, when I was a kid, the US (or at the least Indiana) had "Easter Monday" which was simply the day the gov't designated as the 'official day off' for gov't offices, schools, banks, and the like, since Easter is always on Sunday and everyone already had that day off. So, we used to get the Monday after Easter off as the 'holiday day off.' This is no longer the case here, as the mis-interpreted 'separation of church and state' has prohibited most gov't days off for religious holidays, unless, of course, the legislators want the day at Christmas.

Found this for clarification (for myself mostly, as I was always taught that the Jewish day began at sunrise, which according to this, it does, but it's more complicated than that, as the 24-hour period of an entire 'day' does actually begin at sunset; however, the day hours are counted from sunrise and the Jewish calendar and periods of time are very complicated!!! lol!) at

When does a Jewish day begin?
A Jewish-calendar day does not begin at midnight, but at either sunset or when three medium-sized stars should be visible, depending on the religious circumstance.
Sunset marks the start of the 12 night hours, whereas sunrise marks the start of the 12 day hours. This means that night hours may be longer or shorter than day hours, depending on the season.

04-11-2012, 12:24 AM
And to make all this Jewish Calendar talk even more confusing an hour is not necessarily 60 minutes it could be more.

And ronni , back in the day when I went to school we had Christmas Vacaton and Easter Vacation now we have winter break and spring break.

04-11-2012, 08:52 AM
The best part about all this ladies....

God didn't tell us what day Jesus would die for us...

He just told us that He would...

we are so blessed!

04-11-2012, 12:30 PM
The best part about all this ladies....

God didn't tell us what day Jesus would die for us...

He just told us that He would...

we are so blessed!


04-11-2012, 01:45 PM
The best part about all this ladies....

God didn't tell us what day Jesus would die for us...

He just told us that He would...

we are so blessed!


04-11-2012, 01:51 PM
And to make all this Jewish Calendar talk even more confusing an hour is not necessarily 60 minutes it could be more.

And ronni , back in the day when I went to school we had Christmas Vacaton and Easter Vacation now we have winter break and spring break.

Regarding the Jewish calendar, it kinda makes you wonder if anyone was ever on time for meetings, doesn't it? LOL! and, don't think I'm trying to be insulting here or anything-I'm just amazed that the system was/is so different--now, we're so connected with our clocks, watches, cell phones & iPods that have our time on the face----we don't go 10 minutes without looking at the time!

Pretty sad about the 'winter break/spring break' thing-it's that way here too (in the public schools), except my DS goes to a Christian college and they have Christmas break, spring break, and Easter break, too!

04-11-2012, 02:07 PM
I will also say "Amen" to that.

04-11-2012, 04:25 PM
Regarding the Jewish calendar, it kinda makes you wonder if anyone was ever on time for meetings, doesn't it? LOL!

:lol3: You gals had me laughing my guts out ... so we were all a little bit right; but hopefully now, we are all a little less confused! :dizzy: I think I like our time system better. :yes:

RONNIE ~ thanks for that explanation about Easter Monday; I bet that is exactly why we have it here too.

GARY ~ yes, now we know the "real" reason why GOD wouldn't say exactly when JESUS would die for us; but, we're sure glad He did -- well, sort of ... ;) Let's just say that we're glad that He conquered sin & death, and rose again! Ya, that's it! :D

04-12-2012, 10:28 AM
I was intrigued with all the Easter talk, so I also looked up to see what I could find out about the 3 days and nights from Jesus' death to His resurrection.

I found a very informative article which discusses this and relates facts that don't necessarily go along with the man made traditions of our celebrations. The Biblical facts support him dying on Weds, not on Friday, and the occurrence of 2 Sabbaths because of Jewish tradition that time of the year.

Here is a good chart (for all you who need a visual, like me) of the days and explanations around Jesus' death.
I also see a detailed explanation after the chart which I have not read, but looks very informative.

the Chart was referenced in this article, so for further detailed explanation, also see this link:

(I just skipped down to "Facts about Jesus' Death", before that he gets into tradition and all that controversy which I am not intending to involve myself in, but I do think he gets the explanation correct) What do you think?

The key to understanding the chronology of the events leading up to and including Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection is that there were two Sabbaths in that week, with a day of preparation between them. This makes all of the Gospels accounts fall into place. The fulfillment of Christ's words become clear. A correct harmonization of all the facts will bear this out.

Rosebud I finally got a chance to look at your menus. I really appreciate you posting them. My biggest challenge is the meat. With 8 mouths to feed, we can't afford to make meals around just chicken pieces or hamburgers, etc. Meat has to be stretched in a casserole etc. I am going to think on this though, and see how I can improve what I am doing. I know I can, actually, but it is hard to go hungry, I get really crabby and that is hard to stay polite with so many people around me in that state. :o

04-12-2012, 11:30 AM
auntnelly, re: your concern about meat for casseroles. If you are preparing a casserole that calls for a pound of hamburger, a half pound will do , or you can use ground turkey, often times cheaper than hamburger and lower in calories, too....and nobody will know the difference.
I have taken chili to potlucks and gotten request for the recipe, it is made with ground turkey.

04-12-2012, 01:11 PM
Nellie ~ when we lived at home (9 of us), we used to make a lot of meals that went further too, like chunky soups & stews (i.e. using chicken legs or thighs to make a stew, which are cheaper). My grandma made a nice thick Potato Soup with lots of onions served with homemade bread (you can get day-old for even less), or just make homemade tea biscuits like we did: they are easy to make and economical too. (I always added extra veggies like grated carrots to my version of that soup).

I always have the basic "3" in my house for soups, stews & sauces; they are a bag of carrots, onions, and celery. We buy these every month; and I augment them with other fresh or frozen veggies; and always ones that are the best price or on sale: like green beans, peas, spinach, or broccoli. Of course potatoes, rice, pasta, and beans are staples in our home too.

Yes, I've made casseroles from tuna & pasta; salmon & pasta; hamburg & pasta; cheeze & pasta; canned tomatoes & pasta; and like BARGOO says, you can use less meat (or none at all). We made a big roaster of homemade beans & sliced hot dogs (chicken dogs are good) served with potatoes, coleslaw, and bread. We used tomato soup & ketchup for our homemade beans. I know this is rather carby but it's the servings that really matter. We used to vary the meals EOD (every other day); and I still do that often now.

Yes, I do spend more on meat now, but I always buy the best deals and stock up (ie chicken thighs or legs; hamburger -- whatever is best price). Today I am going to get both which are on sale. I even buy steak or stew beef for stew; again, whatever is the best price. You can make big pots of rice & veggie dishes in the oven; you only need a little meat or none in that -- DH and I have eaten that with beans or as a meatless meal with toast (and you can add eggs to that as well (cooked and cut in strips).

We would make meatloaf, meatballs, or 2 oz patties by adding 1 cup of oatmeal per pound, and onions (and veggies) to make them go further. My brother adds a can of vegetable soup or veggies (mashed) to his; and I just add veggies that I have left over (carrots/peas are good).

If I can't get meat at a good price, I wait until I can. Sometimes, we made things like cream of salmon on toast; or creamed, sliced hard-boiled eggs & peas on toast with potatoes (in a homemade white sauce); or salmon-potato patties; or stewed sausages in canned tomatoes with tators/coleslaw on the side. I cut the sausages in half to make it look like more. ;) We had coleslaw lots becuz cabbage & carrots & onions are cheap; it fed the whole bunch of us; and everyone liked it.

We did eat pasta a couple of times a week, sometimes 3, if we had to. Shepherd's pie goes further with veggies in with the meat; mash potatoes on top. We ate hamburger a few times a week too; it was so economical for a large family with pasta or rice & veggies stretching it out.

One of my Dad's favorites we called HAMBURGER HASH: hamburger fried with lots of onions, and then added water & beef oxo cubes/base & flour to make a beef gravy; served over mashed potatoes & peas with yes, coleslaw again. I think we had coleslaw 2-3 times a week. I used to put peas/carrots right in with the meat; and my SIL put chopped mushrooms in hers to make the meat go further. We all had our little tricks.

My brother would have a meal of baked beans (as their meat), potatoes, and another vegetable (green beans &/ coleslaw) & bread once a week. My aunt & MIL made the very simple Tomato-Macaroni: just elbow macaroni cooked & drained, then add a large can of tomatoes with juice (chopped) with salt & pepper. That's it -- just two ingredients. I make this now and then (about once a month) just becuz we like it; sometimes I add a 1/4 cup cheese whiz to make it different.

We add navy beans to our chili to make it go further; a large can of baked navy beans or homemade cooked ones, lots of veggies (chopped carrots, onions), and less meat. Beans can be added to soups, casseroles & sauces to replace some or all of the meat too. We made quiches or omelettes with leftover veggies & potatoes; or tuna or salmon. We've done all of this.

E2A ~ Mom would save her best meats for Sunday dinner: like a roast of beef or pork; chicken or turkey; or Ham; or Shepherd's Pie, becuz it was a favorite; (having something different each week). Plus we always made a dessert on Sundays too: often it was pies (2); or apple/fruit crisp; or cake; or butter tarts; or jello or homemade pudding with whipped cream. Everything was homemade.

Muffins & loaves & tea biscuits (scones) are the most economical snack foods you can make yourself at home. I make 2 dozen muffins (oatmeal & banana), and oat-banana loaves each week for DH. I freeze them and put some out each day for him to snack on. I added this later becuz I had to go out shopping earlier; my ride was here.

The menus I put in here this month are how we eat now, for only two of us; but when we had less income, we ate the dishes mentioned above more.

04-13-2012, 06:36 PM
Hi all! After my second child, I haven't been able to lose the weight nor have I had the will power! ...but recently I prayed like crazy, begging God to help me... and He is answering my prayer! I am done with my 2nd week and tomorrow I will be starting my 3rd.... I haven't cheated!... (once, I cheat...I can't stop)

04-13-2012, 09:50 PM
Hi all! After my second child, I haven't been able to lose the weight nor have I had the will power! ...but recently I prayed like crazy, begging God to help me... and He is answering my prayer! I am done with my 2nd week and tomorrow I will be starting my 3rd.... I haven't cheated!... (once, I cheat...I can't stop)

Welcome ! No request is too small for God. He cares for you .

04-13-2012, 09:56 PM
cbressler ~ glad you joined us over here. I also pray continually about my health & wellness journey. Over this winter, I have seen a huge improvement; and the scale started moving again. Plus, I pray for new ideas all the time. I increased my lean protein and veggies and that helped a lot; plus eating some traditional favorite meals has helped stay me fuller longer too.

04-13-2012, 10:52 PM
Hi, everyone and WELCOME to cbressler! Just popping in to say hi tonight, I guess. I'm too wiped to even discuss much tonight-4 trips to Mayo (about 1 3/4 hours one way) in the last 7 days, plus 2 soccer game nights this week, and I'm totally worn out.

Finally sat down to carefully read "The Great Cholesterol Con" by Dr. Malcolm Kendrick. About halfway through and I'm becoming convinced we've all been conned by the drug manufacturers. Anyone else read it?

Well, I'm going to continue reading and go to bed soon! Hope you all have a nice evening!

04-14-2012, 10:42 AM
Tomorrow I am going to a training class, when I am done training I will be able to take Communion to shut-ins. I have assisted many times but have never done it entirely on my own.
Looking forward to it but a little nervous.

04-14-2012, 11:33 AM
BARGOO ~ I think that's fabulous -- and I'm sure your fellow parishioners will really appreciate that. Just remember that they are just ordinary folks like us, and you are carrying out a wonder service for them. Pretend your visiting some friends. Will send up some prayers for your training and the work that follows ... :hug:

HI RONNI ~ you have been a busy lady; but a wonderful daughter & mom too. Get lots of rest this weekend, if you can. Yes, we are hearing more and more about this cholesterol controversy. DH's doctor has him on the pills, but he doesn't want to take them. I'm lucky if I can get him to take one EOD ... and I am concerned becuz the doctor admitted to me that they are hard in the liver.

When I asked DH's doctor if he "really" needed the pills, and about his numbers (which he wouldn't share with me), he quickly evaded my questions and moved on to something else. I don't know why they are so secretive here; it's like they feel threatened by anyone who asks them any questions.

My doctor told me my cholesterol was really good (in the normal range) but that they could be even better if I took the pills. I didn't take them, becuz I would rather try to get them down by eating healthier, and losing more weight. Some claim the pills help take "fat" out of the blood (and therefore, our veins & arteries, I guess); but if the body manufactures 75-80% of the cholesterol in our body, why are we fighting that? I just don't understand it all, I guess.

I went to the Nathan Pritikin site; and read how he got his cholesterol down by cutting out most fatty meats (except fish, I think) & egg yolks & high-fat dairy foods. He started at about 300, then went down to 220, then 160, and finally, to only 120 went he went almost vegan. I think he experimented to see how far down he could get it. It did work, and he reversed his heart problems; but then died of something else (isn't that always the way).

My DH has almost stopped eating eggs completely and, he eats less meat but he could go lower without the pills, I think -- especially, if we subbed more fish & beans for more of the meat yet. I have been cutting the meat down over some time, but I know he won't go vegetarian or vegan (he hates salad of any kind). He's a meat & potatoes kind of guy. He eats veggies now only becuz I try to make them tastier by preparing them with herbs, spices, and/ broths.

I buy leaner meats, and we remove all visible fat & skin; he eats chicken dogs and only one leaner burger now. I make him something else to go with it instead of eating 2 burgers which he used to do. Now & then, he does ask for two though, so I bought some leaner ones that are only 180 calories each.

He's not overweight (actually, he's underweight), his blood pressure is ideal; and his sugars are great. So, I wonder if his cholesterol is really too high or the other half too low? But I couldn't get any satisfactory answers about that either. So, what to do, what to do ... :shrug:

04-14-2012, 11:52 AM
Rosebud , thanks for the prayers, I will need them.
About cholesteral, I have been taking pills for years, I told the doctor, I rarely eat red meat or eggs, eat mostly chicken or fish, drink only non fat milk.Why is it still high ? She says heredity plays a big part in it. I still take the pills but don't know if it is the wisest thing to do.

04-14-2012, 01:07 PM
I am a christian who is trying to obey the Lord by eating the way he intended me to eat. I have struggled with my weight since I was in kindergarten and I am now almost 55. I have tried almost everything you can think of including buying diet pills over the internet from who knows where. I am now trying to do it Gods way but I really struggle in the evenings. I don't want to binge and purge but sometimes I still do. I know this is not healthy and I really want to stop. Maybe you all might have some suggestions or atleast pray for me.

04-14-2012, 01:14 PM
:welcome: Needsupport55 ~ glad you found us over here. We will gladly pray for you concerning the binging issues and living healthier. I am finding this year that by upping my lean protein & veggies (in my meals), and by eating heartier meals, that I am less hungry in the evenings lately.

I kept trying different things, and this has worked the best so far. Before I tried having bigger snacks, but that would set me up for a mini-binge (a bigger one years ago, though). Now, I have a bigger dinner but plan a smaller evening snack like cheeze, and/ baby carrots; or a piece of lean leftover meat, etc. A glass of milk, or a big cup of tea helps satiate me too.

Come back often; I find it helps me a lot to stay on track ... :hug:

04-14-2012, 01:42 PM
I am a christian who is trying to obey the Lord by eating the way he intended me to eat. I have struggled with my weight since I was in kindergarten and I am now almost 55. I have tried almost everything you can think of including buying diet pills over the internet from who knows where. I am now trying to do it Gods way but I really struggle in the evenings. I don't want to binge and purge but sometimes I still do. I know this is not healthy and I really want to stop. Maybe you all might have some suggestions or atleast pray for me.

Welcome and congratulations on taking charge of your health. I find that planning is the answer I plan all meals ahead of time. This does not take much time to do. I make sure I include some healthy snacks. I eat dinner early as I get up early. I make sure I have a planned snack sometime after dinner. If I don't do this I want to eat everything in sight. My snacks are usually less than 100 calories and could be yogurt, string cheese. Laughing Cow Cheese Wedge, an apple or orange whatever I have planned for. I make sure I have plenty of the right foods on hand. Good luck.

04-14-2012, 01:58 PM
Bargoo ~ Good tips there -- I also plan ahead, and have found that certain snacks are better for the evening (I also eat yogurt and/or fruit too). I try to stay away from the grain/starch carby snacks at night now, leaning towards -- protein, dairy, UNsalted nuts, carrots, or fruit (less binging that way). :D

PS ~ I only eat cereal or a slice of toast at night if my calories are way under.

Oh 2 be me
04-14-2012, 02:30 PM
Hi all. I've posted a few times before.
I'm back for some encouragement. I HAVE to do this. For myself, my health. I'm only 47, if I don't get control of myself now, I'm in for a long miserable life, if I live a long life.

I've subscribed to the thread this time so hopefully I'll be able to keep up with you all.

A bit about myself, I'll be 48 this year. I'm now have about 60# to lose.
I've been married 25 yrs, have 2 children, a son-in=law and a handsome 6 mo. old grandson! Don't get to see him often, they live about 6+ hours away from me.
I will graduate in May from the local tech. college, with a diploma in Medical Office Administration. I'll be taking Coding classes this summer for the coding certificate. No prospects of a job yet, got to get my resume together and get it out there. Kinda scary!!

I'm excited as tomorrow we will be joining the church we've been attending since August!! It will be so good to have a 'church family' again.

I read thru some of the post and someone (Rosebud?) mentioned a wheat free diet. I've been thinking of doing this-again. Did it once before, not this particular diet but just cut out breads and alot of my sugars. I did lose some weight, felt better,no heartburn, etc.

Well, enough for now.
Ya'll have a blessed day.

04-14-2012, 03:17 PM
:wave: HI PATTY ~ I remember you; glad that you came back. Yes, Bootsie & I were discussing a wheat-free plan (she and her DH are having great success with it). Do whatever works for you, Patty; follow whatever plan you can stick with -- that is what matters most ... :hug:

E2A ~ and yes, congrats on finishing your Medical Administration course, and joining your new church as well. :D

04-14-2012, 03:18 PM
Welcome Patty ! You are wise to take control of your health. Good luck to you. Congratulations on joining a church, I am all in favor of church membership.

04-14-2012, 07:22 PM
Hi everyone have two praises, bought a shirt 3 weeks ago and was really tight across the belly part ,loose now! Hubby is down from a size 5X to a 3 X ! We give all the glory to our lord and thank him so very much! Ok we can wear this but....we are not loosing any weight.....for the last two weeks. at first we lost some weight ...but we seem to be shrinking in measurements! Which I don't care how we get there just as long as we are healthy.

Having meatloaf with 2 T.flax meal tonight for thickener handful of cheese and 2 eggs salt & pepper, onion with stewed tomatoes and peppers on top and green beans.
Yesterday had boiled chicken in garlic , salt & pepper with broccoli and carrots boiled the broccoli in the chicken broth and cooked the carrots with the chicken. Ate at a party last night some sausage and raw vegetable deviled eggs.

04-15-2012, 03:38 PM
BOOTSIE ~ your dinners sound just yum ... :D

For the second week of April, we had --

Sunday -- Deli chicken, new potato, veggies
Monday -- Ham + Potato-veggie scallop
Tuesday -- chicken pattie/onions; beans; salad
Wednesday -- Creamy Mac: hamburg/rotini/veggies/mushroom sauce
Thursday -- leftovers & salad
Friday -- chicken breast tenders, corn & salad
Saturday -- soup & pastrami/chz sandwich

Lunches: veggie pita pizza; l/o chicken & tomato sandwich; pastrami/chz sandwich (2d); l/o chicken tenders & few small tators & salad; l/o chicken breast & salad (2d).

Breakfasts: eggwich + fruit/yogurt (2d); bagel & peanut butter (3d); 1.5 egg omelette/chz & 1 tst; egg & 2 slcs bacon & 1 tst; orange (2d); bananas (2d).

Snacks: yogurt, fruit, baby carrots, chz, UNsalted almonds, HM banana loaf, brd/pb (1 day).

04-15-2012, 10:11 PM
Patty love your picture of your cow! Been a lazy day today.

04-16-2012, 07:22 PM
Here's one of my favorite thrifty recipe sites. Many of her recipes are simple, quick, and very economical too ... :D

Oh 2 be me
04-16-2012, 10:14 PM
Patty love your picture of your cow! Been a lazy day today.

THanks, Bootsie. There is a pasture above my house. They are so much fun to watch.

Well, it has been a long day. I spent the day in the ER with my 21 yo son. He has an ear infection, perforated ear drum and a big knot on the bone behind his ear.
I had taken him to a free clinic (it is a medical ministries clinic that I volunteer at, they offer free medical services to those who don't have insurance, my son doesnt' and is unemployed), the dr there said he thought he had infection in that bone (mastoiditis) and said he needed to go to the er so that they could do a cat scan. But the er dr didnt' think it was infection in the bone, didn't do the cat scan. Cleaned out his ear, gave him an antibiotic.
I pray that he is right and the infection is not in that bone. Infection in a bone is not a good thing!! It can require surgery to remove the infection part.
I would appreciate prayers for him. And that he will regain hearing in that ear.
I'm exhausted-mentally and physically. Didnt' have much to eat (a Borabora bar, almonds and a snickers) until about 4:30 then had a hamburger and fries. THen came home nd had a couple slices pizza. sigh.
I did go to the store and bought some veggies, so that is a start.
I really needed to study for an exam I'll have on Thursday and I have 2 gallon of strawberries that I had planned on making jelly out of today. Just going to get those in the freezer. I have classes all day tomorrow, except for about 3 hours tomorrow evening, I could possibly come home and do them then. I would just really love to go to bed and crash.
Well, enough of that.
Till tomorrow

04-17-2012, 12:10 PM
PATTY ~ ^Prayers^ going up for your son's ear infection & hearing, to be restored. That's wonderful the work those doctors (and you) are doing at the free medical clinic; may GOD bless them all mightily.

Tip of the Week ~ Kudos to you for getting the veggies & the fruit. Just chalk yesterday up to a "maintenance day", and move right along. I was reading recently that it is a good idea to have one higher calorie day each week to change things up a bit anyways (just to keep your body guessing so2speak). ;)

I would just put the fruit in the freezer until you have a free day to make the jam (I've done that before too). Take this evening, go to bed early, and catch up on your rest; the jam can wait -- your health & well-being is much more important ... :hug:

:snowglo: Well, we had a big ***** storm the other night and it's a wonderful, winter wonderland out there, but the :sunny: is also shining and it's lovely really.

DH and I put up the new aluminum blinds in the kitchen yesterday AM, and they look really nice -- they're capacino ice beige to match our countertops. So, that's 4 down, 2 to go. DH is running errands for me this AM; he loves doing that.

A whole bunch of spring birds have returned this week, but seem a bit miffed about all this snow -- and there's been some scrapping going on at the feeders ... :lol: We had to bring one in becuz the Rock Doves and Blackbirds were hanging from the tree knots and knocking the food on the ground for everyone else -- they have all become tree acrobats, I swear.

So, we just left up one narrow, long funnel-type feeder; and will broadcast the food around the yard to make it last longer. We try to wean them off food for the summer, and start up again in November. Some robins, junkos, sparrows, Grackles & red-winged Blackbirds have joined the Starlings & Doves so far. It's lovely to hear the sparrows singing in the lilac bush just outside my window here -- it's music to my ears. :D

Hope you all have a nice OP week; just keep on, keepin' on ... :coolsnow:

Oh 2 be me
04-17-2012, 10:56 PM
Well, it's been a good day-eating wise. I'm using SparkPeople to count my calories. I ended at a little over 1600 cal. But..I did not count for the extra half n half I've had today with coffee. I've not drank much water, either. Tuesdays are my long days at school and it has been a stressful one.
I planned my lunch and took it to school instead of going out to eat between classes.
It's a start!!
Tomorrow-more water and less coffee!!

Rosebud--I love watching the birds! I have trouble with the squirrels getting on the feeder.
My son-please cont praying for him. He says he is not in pain, still cannot hear out of that ear and the knot on that bone looks like it has gotten a bit bigger. Praying that a few days on the antibiotic, it will start going down, if not, we may be going back to the er.
Oh! I forgot to say that I climbed 50 stairs today! I had to stop to take a breath and to let my legs relax a few times but I made it.
My legs cramp even after a few steps. And I get short of breath. But I did it!!
Off to bed. Long day tomorrow again. Big test in Anatomy & Physiology on Thursday. I have to do good on this test or I'm going to fail the class :(

04-18-2012, 08:49 AM
Hi Ladies...

Sorry I haven't posted here much, although I do come and read daily.

I have been busy at work, then remodeling the kitchen and floors in our home...and spending time with those...

GRANDdaughters1&2 :) .....

we are getting close....cabinets this week-end and floors, maybe next week, if I finish my end of the prep this week-end. Unfortunately we have a funeral to attend :(

I shall return :hug:

04-18-2012, 12:36 PM
PATTY ~ got some study/test tips for you -- read your notes each night before going to sleep becuz you retain more that way. When you have a big test or exam coming up, start reading your notes every night for about 15 minutes (1-3 weeks before); for an exam: 3 months ahead (the bigger the test, the sooner you start). [See Bargoo's tip about "notes" below]

Plus, when you are doing the test, don't forget to use your intuition, and the gift of general knowledge when you encounter a question you're not sure of. Some teachers are sticklers for exact terms, but others aren't, and will give you credit for ingenuity. Answer all the ones you know "for sure" first; then go back to the others, pray for recall, then give it a good guess -- and, never leave any questions blank: bluff your way through them. You can often get at least 25% more answers correct by using your intuition; it can mean the difference between passing or failing, or getting an A instead of a C. :D

E2A ~ I used to make up mini-tests for myself from my notes and text books (such as high-lighted terms); then I would test myself until I got them all correct. Plus, I memorized all terms, definitions, and formulas. Having someone (like a friend or family member) quiz you also helps a lot.

Good for you for taking small & big steps in the right direction; over time, they will add up and garner amazing results. ^PRAYERS^ still going up for the infection in your son's ear; glad there is no pain. The squirrels can't get to the food in the tube feeder that we have hanging in our fir trees (so far); but then we stop the food in the spring as soon as the last bag is gone, and only start up in the fall again when the snow starts (in November).

HI GARY ~ glad that kitchen is coming along nicely: that, life, work, and the grandbabies are keeping you busy. We understand that.

:wave: HI to everyone else ~ have a great OP day ... :)

04-18-2012, 12:50 PM
Patty, about studying , I have found this to be helpful. As you are studying write things down, not everything , of course but key points or anything you think might be hard to remember. The addition of writing things down helps you to remember and recall as you are taking your test.

04-18-2012, 01:24 PM
As you are studying write things down, not everything , of course but key points or anything you think might be hard to remember. The addition of writing things down helps you to remember and recall as you are taking your test.

I agree -- that's the "NOTES" that I was referring to in my post above. I always took or made notes of the things I wanted/needed to remember. Often the teacher talks more about the things that he/she thinks are most important too.

04-18-2012, 09:13 PM
Here’s something to think about:

The Gospels do not explain the resurrection; the resurrection explains the Gospels. Belief in the resurrection is not an appendage to the Christian faith; it is the Christian faith. – John S. Whale

04-19-2012, 07:59 AM
Happy Thursday Everyone!

Wow its been so long since I have been here. 2 years+ I believe. I still see many familiar bames. :-) Not sure if any of you remember me but this board was so helpful in my finding myself and my relationship with the Lord. For those of you that do remember me so much has changed the past 2 years or so. I got out of a relationship in which I could no longer be happy. I met my soulmate. He is truly amazing and understands me and loves me for all that I am, got married and on January 8th of this year we had our first child together. Oh and we alsi moved across the country from Ohio to Arizona. Whew its been a crazy fast ride but I couldbt ask for more. I'm currently a stay at home mommy after years of working 2/3 jobs. I finally found where God wants me. I was meant to be at home raising my son and taking care of my husband. It took a lot of learning, mistakes and turmoil to get here but everything finally has fallen into place and I couldn't be happier.

I'm so happy to have this support back in,my life. Now more than ever I want to be healthy not just for myself but my son and future children. O want them to have a happy, healthy and activities mom. So its time to lose the rest of this weight I put on while pregnant. I was only 20 lbs away from goal before I gained an astounding 70lbs. YIKES! This time its not going to be about the number but how I feel in my own body and clothes.

04-19-2012, 08:31 AM
CandyKisses, welcome back and congratulations on the marriage and baby.

04-19-2012, 10:38 AM
You nailed it Gary! Without the resurrection we would not have our faith.

Candy: I remember you! Glad to see you're back. I'm so glad to hear that things have turned around for you. Congratulations!

04-19-2012, 01:31 PM
Hello everyone, It's nice to read all the encouraging faith based words. I am still struggling each evening but I will not give up. I really appreciate hearing from other christians.

04-19-2012, 06:22 PM
:welcome: Back, CANDY ~ Yes, we sure do remember you; and wowie -- how life has changed for you. Oh, that little boy is adorable!!! Glad you found your way back to us ... :D

NeedsSupport ~ just keep coming back. The afternoon & evening are the two tuffest times for me, so I have been trying different strategies. For the afternoon, I save .5 sandwich or just a slice of bread (which I did today). I had leftovers from last night's dinner with veggies for lunch, and saved my bread for my snack (with peanut butter) & tea. Someone on the net somewhere suggested to save half your lunch (in this case, half your sandwich or bread) for your afternoon snack, so you don't have to eat more calories.

For the evening, I am now eating a more substantial dinner and find that this is helping me alot. Last night I was low on my calories so I had 1 cup of a whole grain fiber cereal with 1% milk & sweetener, and that did the trick for me. I have to watch what I eat at night or it can start a mini-binge. Cereal works for me; it fills me up well. Some nights, I am fine with only a piece of chz and/or some baby carrots. Glad that you came by again ... :)

Oh 2 be me
04-19-2012, 08:22 PM
Evening all!
THanks for the 'studying' tips. The instructor let us use an index card for this test-it was on digestive system, urinary sys. and respiratory. We could put what ever we wanted on both sides of the card. I typed out my notes in a very small font, printed it and taped it to the card. I was so thankful we were able to do this. I record the lectures so I listened to those, too. I won't know my score probly not until next week.
I talked with my pharmycist this evening about the drs recommendation of taking cymbalta. She didn't seem to like it. I really don't want to take it and probly won't. I will be taking celexa tho. The pharm (and two different drs) have told me (within the past week) to get active!! sigh. It's hard to do when you hurt all the time. Adn the pharm said to drink, drink, drink water!! And cut down on my coffee! :-( I know I need to.
Well, I'm just rambling on. Hope everyone has had a good day.

04-19-2012, 08:51 PM
PATTY ~ will send up some ^prayers^ for your depression and the pain in your body. Is it your legs that bother you? Can you walk a bit or is that a problem too? How about dancing 2-3 times a week. With the stairs at school, that should help a lot. Just start out slow though -- you don't want to hurt yourself either ... :hug:

Oh 2 be me
04-19-2012, 09:10 PM
Rosebud, Right now I hurt from head to toe. Nothing unusual as I have fibro and back issues. Stairs are a problem. I'm just going to have to get out and walk.
Thanks for the prayers

04-20-2012, 09:33 AM
Hi everyone and WELCOME & WELCOME BACK to some of you! I also remember Candykisses and Patty from awhile back. I also had 'gone missing' for quite awhile and, unfortunately, but due to my own lack of control, gained a lot of my weight back. Still struggling some, but I know it's due to stress and I'm trying to work some of that out --and a big THANKS to everyone here for letting me vent a bit toward that end:) !!

Today's Mom's final doctor visit before the surgery and we're to find out how many allergies she has and if there are any allergies to the materials from which the hip prosthesis is made. Prayers on that one, because if she's allergic to it, all they can do is a hip resection, which would simply remove the ball part of the joint, shortening her leg several more inches and not improve her mobility much, although it would relieve the pain she has right now. But, hoping that the allergies are not an issue. I've been seeing God work in her-she's no longer allergic to latex, which used to be a big problem, as she worked in a hospital. I believe God is healing all the issues she had that would prevent her from having the surgery. And, He's been hard at work healing her attitude toward doctors and medicine, as well, or we'd have never gotten her to the doc to begin with!

So, it's gonna be a long day, with driving and doctor visits. Fortunately, DH can take off a bit earlier today to take DS3 to soccer practice. They were supposed to have an away game last night, but was raining so hard and sooooo cold that they postponed it-thank goodness! My hands were already hurting from being out in the cold to drive him to physical therapy and I was NOT looking forward to sitting out in the cold rain for 3 or 4 hours! His PT is going well and the Achilles tendon seems to be healing up very quickly-they are very pleased and are going to let him play as normal, with a few follow up visits to make sure the swelling doesn't return:carrot:

Well, my eating has been better the last couple days. Finished the books I was reading about fats and heart disease and I'm convinced we've all been duped by the drug companies, so I'm not worrying about saturated fat any longer. Dumping any hydrogenized or partially hydrogenized or trans-fats completely and going to use only butter & olive oil for cooking. Got to get the processed stuff out of our diet too, but that will take some doing with the DH and DS's, so will have to phase things out slowly;)

So, now I must start getting ready to go! Hope you all have a great day!

04-20-2012, 03:14 PM
PATTY ~ have added your health issues to our current prayer list on page 1 of the Prayer Warrrior's Thread.

RONNIE ~ prayers going up for a successful & safe trip for you and your Mom; glad to hear DS3's heel is healing up so well -- Praize GOD!

Well, we've had a little :sunny: here today; so I did some laundry and hung it outside. They are calling for more sun for the weekend, so that will be nice too. I felt a bit hungry yesterday, so ate a bit more and felt better for it. Have been doing quite well with my eating though.

GOOD NEWS UPDATE ~ I had some more NSV's this month -- I measured myself today; and I have lost a total of 26" off my body since the last time I measured. This time though, I also measured my forearms, wrists & other places that I hadn't measured before becuz I really can notice that they are smaller. So I know that I have actually lost more than that, but that is still an awesome NSV to give me a boost. With the lost lbs, that gives me more incentive to work harder too. :D

Have a wonderful weekend everyone ... :flow2:

04-20-2012, 09:01 PM
Rosebud-:woohoo: Wonderful progress!! Congrats on such good work!

We got good news on the allergy front for Mom-no allergy to any of the prosthesis materials! Lots of other allergies to ingredients in most household cleaners, laundry detergents, etc, but none to anything that will affect her surgery, so it's a go for May 1. She's ready to get it over with!

So, now, time to veg out in front of the tv, because the driving just wipes me out, but glad I can be a help to Mom. It's helping our relationship somewhat-I was always Daddy's girl and, due to things that happened when I was small, Mom really never bonded with me. It's nice to be able to learn more about her now:)

Have a good evening, everyone!

04-20-2012, 11:35 PM
Here's a link to threads about "shoe-string meals" here on 3FC's site ...

RONNIE ~ glad everything turned out OK for your mom today; and that you had a good trip. That's great that the two of you are now able to get a little closer too. PRAIZE GOD for answered prayers ... :D

04-22-2012, 09:24 AM
Church this AM, then spending the next 2 days with baby Faith, oh, yes, her parents will be there, too.

04-22-2012, 08:18 PM
Enjoy that GRANDdaughter time Bargoo!

This line was in our service this morning...probably written by our Pastor, not sure....

If our minds are closed to the voice of God, it does not matter for us that Jesus' tomb is open......

Oh 2 be me
04-23-2012, 12:36 PM
Well, it's almost evening here. I just finished my bowl of oatmeal for breakfast-had apple, raisins, pecans, a little butter and honey in it. Had a shower but still in my housecoat. Oh well. We have been having snow flurries most of the morning here. Blackberry winter, it's called here. My daughter called and we had a good chat. I miss her :( My grandson was jabbering and laughing. Won't get to see them until Mother's day weekend. It will be a short, busy trip.
Im discouraged this morning about several things-my grades, my son (still has the knot on that bone) other things going on. Holding onto Gods' promises that He knows all about it and He will work in all these things.

Weighed 211 this morning. I've gone down a pound or so. Going to focus on drinking more water and less coffee today. Have some veggies I need to roast. Studying for a lab pracitcal tomorrow at school.
You all have a blessed day.

04-23-2012, 02:36 PM
Patty: Great news on the lbs. loss. Even with the stress in your life you're working on the loss. I hope your son's knot goes away soon. It so hard to see our kids in pain. Have fun with your grandson. I can hardly wait to hold my new one!

Garry: Great line and so true!

Ronni: So glad to hear things are going ahead for your mom and that your relationship is growing closer. Prayers for a successful surgery.

Rosebud: Congrats on all those inches lost and you're only 3 lbs away from 100 lbs. lost. WOW!

We laid low this weekend. DH was down with a cold and I don't want to get one as we fly to see grandson #2 next week. We mainly had some cabbage borscht that I had made - loaded with veggies.

I spent time learning my new sewing machine and got a couple of items ready for the baby. I think we're taking just as much for him as we are for ourselves!

Bargoo: Enjoy your time with Faith. They grow up so fast.

04-25-2012, 08:04 PM
For the third week of April, we had ...

SUNDAY -- baked fish, sliced tomatoes, and coleslaw salad w/cukes
MONDAY -- shepherd's pie; green beans & corn
TUESDAY -- chicken pattie/chz & onions, corn & salad
WEDNESDAY -- tomato-beef patties; green beans & corn
THURSDAY -- baked fish; sliced tomatoes; coleslaw salad w/cukes
FRIDAY -- salad first; baked pizza (gave half crust to our furrry baby)
SATURDAY -- deli chicken breast; new potato; veggies

BF -- ham & egg/tst; medium wg bagel/pb; eggwich/chz; .5 orange or pear, or peaches; coffee.

LUNCHES -- veggie pita pizza; salmon sandwich (2days); ham & chz sandwich; leftovers (2days); ham & chz omelette; soup (3days); carrots; tea.

SNX -- almonds; baby carrots; lowcal HM banana loaf; yogurt; chz; apple; peaches; .5 pear; and brd/pb on low days; ovaltine; tea.

PATTY ~ that oatmeal sounds great; a lot like my homemade muesli: granola + fiber cereal + almond slices + raisins. Yes, we have to trust GOD in these matters, even when it's hard; ^prayers^ continue for you and your son.

:wave: WILMA ~ thanks, worth all the effort I put into my toning exercises each day. My mother used to make the most beautiful baby clothes; she even sold some. You are making good use of your new sewing machine already.

05-02-2012, 09:38 AM
I don't see a Christian Encouragers for May yet, but I hope we keep this up because I think I need to come back to this group. I haven't been here in a really long time, but I need to be with other Christians who encourage each other. I will go back and catch up reading what is going on with everyone.
Y'all have a Blessed Day.

05-02-2012, 09:52 AM
trish, welcome back. You won't find a finer bunch of Christians than you find here . IMO.

05-02-2012, 10:11 AM
trish, welcome back. You won't find a finer bunch of Christians than you find here . IMO.

I haven't been here for so long that I can't remember when it was, but I agree Bargoo, I remember this being a wonder group of loving Christians.

I've been working at getting diabetes and weight under control and realized today that while I pray for God to help me, but really I've been trying to do it on my own. Of course, when we Christians try to do anything separate from Him, we are not successful. Thus my return to the Encouragers group. I want to be encouraging to y'all while I receive encouragment from y'all. Thanks for the welcome back. I've so glad to be here.