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JenB72
03-01-2012, 07:39 AM
May the luck 'o the scales be with you this month.

:luck2you: :luck2you: :luck2you:


bigdog
03-01-2012, 08:52 AM
Lost 3 pounds and am at 167.3!!!!!!! :dancer::dancer::dancer: 3 pounds!!!! before getting on the scale this am, i was praying, please, please, please let me see 169, i've been good, i've been on plan, i've been exercising, PLEASE!!! and surprise, surprise it registered 167.3!!!!!! i even got on the scales twice because i didn't believe it!!!!!
i've been eating more veggies and salads and it worked! sometimes when i get busy, i'll get the protein in but have been neglecting the veggies for lunch alot of times - usually do have a salad w/ lean protein for dinner...
OH, Happy Day!!!! i woke up my DH to tell him and told him i have to go tell my virtual protein buddies!!! because you guys keep me focused and motivated! YAY!

bigdog
03-01-2012, 08:59 AM
One day at a time, one pound at a time but we can all do it. it all adds up! (heard that on tv the other day on some fitness show)


Galadreal
03-01-2012, 10:51 AM
Bigdog that is awesome! very congratulations!!

I had to do my hormone test today, wake up and drool in a tube, so no time for breakfast. Ended up putting my greek yogurt in my frappe maker with a half cup of mixed berries and my mixed berry HNS and some ice, and off we go to work...where someone brought fresh bread for the meeting this morning. I think I am getting paranoid but I swear that my job is trying to make this more difficult. Party last week, then popcorn last Friday, yesterday they made a big breakfast and now this. Eyes on the prize though, I woke up and went to get dressed and my bra is too big around. Fingers crossed, I have not looked at a scale this morning but I may go weigh in tonight.

Tamikl
03-01-2012, 11:47 AM
Lost 3 pounds and am at 167.3!!!!!!! :dancer::dancer::dancer: 3 pounds!!!! before getting on the scale this am, i was praying, please, please, please let me see 169, i've been good, i've been on plan, i've been exercising, PLEASE!!! and surprise, surprise it registered 167.3!!!!!! i even got on the scales twice because i didn't believe it!!!!!
i've been eating more veggies and salads and it worked! sometimes when i get busy, i'll get the protein in but have been neglecting the veggies for lunch alot of times - usually do have a salad w/ lean protein for dinner...
OH, Happy Day!!!! i woke up my DH to tell him and told him i have to go tell my virtual protein buddies!!! because you guys keep me focused and motivated! YAY!

That is awesome...Hooray for you!! It feels good, doesn't it? LOL I never thought I would see the 160's...or the 150's!

JenB72
03-01-2012, 12:06 PM
Lost 3 pounds and am at 167.3!!!!!!! :dancer::dancer::dancer:

That's awesome!!! Congrats!!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

ynapier
03-01-2012, 12:11 PM
Way to go Bigdog! That's awesome. :bravo: :woohoo:

ynapier
03-01-2012, 12:12 PM
Galadreal - good luck with the weigh in. Clothes that are too large is definately a good sign.

Galadreal
03-01-2012, 12:35 PM
Galadreal - good luck with the weigh in. Clothes that are too large is definately a good sign.


Thanks, I really can't judge by my pants and shirts (baggy t-shirts) I only have the one pair of jeans that i wear every day and they get looser as the week goes by...I refuse to buy more pants in a size 18!

rachels77
03-01-2012, 12:53 PM
BigDog - Congratulations! Excited for you!

Galadreal - Congratulations! Baggy clothes are a great sign! You're right - eyes on the prize. I work around a TON of take-out and donuts... I'm the only lady and the guys here LOVE their sweets and fried foods!

Camaswa - I tried to post on the February thread, but it was closed... but I wanted to tell you that I hear you about the sizes. You're right about jeans being a nightmare to fit! I try to only buy a few pairs in each size and then their in great condition when I move down. But, they fit soooo differently! I agree about the bootcut jeans and the "curvy" fit. I went to Maurices recently for their jean sale. Found some size 12s that fit, in the curvy... but the skinny fit? Forgedddaabboutit. I looked like a stuffed sausage... muffin top and all and I wanted to cry also... but, you know what? I looked at the triumphs I have had the past few months... I no longer have to travel to the plus size area to shop, I am so much more outgoing and happy, my kids were bragging to their friends about all the activities I get to do with them, my girls seem to have more confidence about their bodies (I'm working on the positive self-talk)... these aren't measured by a number on a scale... or in the back of your jeans... they are who you are and what you are becomming on this journey... and THAT'S pretty great!

I want to do some pretty summer and spring clothes once I reach my goal weight, but I'm scared to buy too much!

patzi
03-01-2012, 01:27 PM
BigDog...
So happy for you... It is a wonderful feeling when you hit it as it feels so good.

Patzi

JenB72
03-01-2012, 02:05 PM
Just weighed in, TTOM is supposed to start tomorrow, and I still lost a pound! Totally shocked!!!!! :woohoo:


my girls seem to have more confidence about their bodies (I'm working on the positive self-talk)... these aren't measured by a number on a scale... or in the back of your jeans... they are who you are and what you are becomming on this journey... and THAT'S pretty great!

AWESOME ADVICE!!!!!!! Well said!!!!

nwcgina
03-01-2012, 02:19 PM
Jen & Bigdog...you guys are awesome. So happy for you, you are both sooooo close. Stay focused. Stay OP. Stay awesome:) Big smile on my face for you.

re: the jeans discussion...I hadn't thought of Maurices...they do have a large selection of lots of brands of jeans at different prices. I never have luck finding GAP jeans, but I'm borrowing a bunch of my friends clothes and her GAP jeans and dress pants fit me awesome. But I go in to try and find my own and I can't find any. I need a shopping assistant. I'm short but petites don't work, only "shorts", there's a difference...so I end up getting lots altered. I still need khaki's, dress pants, and some nice capris once it gets warm.

Holding at 155. TTOM started today so over the next week is when I tend to drop weight. Hoping 2-3 more weeks and I'll hit goal. But I do feel good here...and yesterday I was just ready to EAT (and eat and eat). I didn't, besides an extra turkey meatloaf muffin.

Has anyone made Kale chips? I think I'm going to try them tonight...

bigdog
03-01-2012, 05:37 PM
Ugh the saliva test. That was nasty! I was tempted to let my dogs drool in it just to see what it would register. Lol. Especially my big boy GSD. They would have been like...wow u have a lot of testerone! Haha. Of course they told me I needed tons of supplements and hormone creams. I told them I would discuss w my doc and I couldnt take pills. She looked at it and said it was normalq

bigdog
03-01-2012, 05:44 PM
Thanks guys! Now I have to keep it in the 160s! I've gotten here before 3 years ago and gained it back and more but this time I'm keeping it off

I told my sister who is doing WW and who has lost 40 lbs that we have to keep each other from regaining. We seem to do this over and over. We email each other what we have lost every couple weeks. She lives a few states away...

Good luck everyone

MrsKatydid
03-01-2012, 05:57 PM
Congrats big dog and Jen! Galadriel - I know how you feel I refuse to go to a plus store so I am still in maternity clothes - baby is 4 months old! And honestly I wore them for over a year after my son was born!
I am down another 2 pounds. So in the 16 days since I started I have lost 13 lbs and 11 inches! Plus I survived my first plateau which is where I usually quit!

Ok - when do they do the hormone test! It sounds disgusting. I don't handle spit well.

Kate

camaswa
03-01-2012, 09:40 PM
Lost 3 pounds and am at 167.3!!!!!!! :dancer::dancer::dancer: 3 pounds!!!! before getting on the scale this am, i was praying, please, please, please let me see 169, i've been good, i've been on plan, i've been exercising, PLEASE!!! and surprise, surprise it registered 167.3!!!!!! i even got on the scales twice because i didn't believe it!!!!!
i've been eating more veggies and salads and it worked! sometimes when i get busy, i'll get the protein in but have been neglecting the veggies for lunch alot of times - usually do have a salad w/ lean protein for dinner...
OH, Happy Day!!!! i woke up my DH to tell him and told him i have to go tell my virtual protein buddies!!! because you guys keep me focused and motivated! YAY!
Yay Yay Yay Yay yay Yay Yay yay!!!!

rachels77
03-02-2012, 11:17 AM
I'm with you, Gina... petites don't work for me but "shorts" do! Crazy, but almost all the petites I try are either waaayyyy too tight in the hips or thighs or are too short!

Katydid - Congratulations!

Hope everyone has an awesome Friday... Last night, I got out my "Before" and "After" pictures because my Zumba instructor wanted to see them. I was shocked! I guess I know I look a bit different, but to see it in pictures seems to be a whole other story... It's kind of disconcerting because I really didn't think I was "big" before MRC. But to see the difference in my face, stomach and arms is crazy... Makes me realize how much of the whole weight thing is truly a mental environment...

JenB72
03-02-2012, 11:28 AM
Happy Friday, everyone! I'm so excited! Tonight's my stabilization party!!! Thought I'd never see the day. :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9:

Galadreal
03-02-2012, 11:33 AM
Happy Friday, everyone! I'm so excited! Tonight's my stabilization party!!! Thought I'd never see the day. :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9:

Awesome!! Congratulations!!

MrsKatydid
03-02-2012, 12:06 PM
Congrats Jen!! That is awesome!

Baby Doll
03-02-2012, 12:24 PM
Lost 3 pounds and am at 167.3!!!!!!! :dancer::dancer::dancer: 3 pounds!!!!

Congrats BigDog! WooHoo! Way to go! :cp:

Just left the center for my first March WI. I lost 3.5 pounds and am now under 300. I was so happy that I cried on the way back to work.

bigdog
03-02-2012, 12:34 PM
another pound lost!!!! 166.7 i was scared to get on the scale this am because i had left over tacos last night and i was thinking maybe it was a dream i had that i'm finally losing weight again and was scared i'd be back up to 170..

i've cut out the extras and really paying attention to portion size. my taco was mostly veggies! i piled the shredded lettuce, grape tomatoes, salsa on the plate, then 4 oz taco lean meat w/ one hard shell crumbled on top. one of my fave meals! my DH of course eats 4-5 tacos MEN!
had a huge salad w/ grilled flank steak on top for lunch. the difference is i'm actually eating more and losing again. the extra veggies are really helping. guess they are speeding up my metabolism so i'm losing again
i had gotten into a bad habit of skipping meals and just grabbing a HNS or replacement meal shake or protein bar and not getting my veggies in.

like Jen and Patzi have always said, if you follow the plan, it actually works! YAY!!!!

bigdog
03-02-2012, 12:37 PM
Congrats BigDog! WooHoo! Way to go! :cp:

Just left the center for my first March WI. I lost 3.5 pounds and am now under 300. I was so happy that I cried on the way back to work.

way to go Baby Doll!!!! this plan really works!! Good job!!!! tears of happiness :-)

bigdog
03-02-2012, 12:40 PM
Way to go Jen!!! now that is a party worth going to!!! :bravo:

faerychic
03-02-2012, 01:33 PM
another pound lost!!!! 166.7 i was scared to get on the scale this am because i had left over tacos last night and i was thinking maybe it was a dream i had that i'm finally losing weight again and was scared i'd be back up to 170..

i've cut out the extras and really paying attention to portion size. my taco was mostly veggies! i piled the shredded lettuce, grape tomatoes, salsa on the plate, then 4 oz taco lean meat w/ one hard shell crumbled on top. one of my fave meals! my DH of course eats 4-5 tacos MEN!
had a huge salad w/ grilled flank steak on top for lunch. the difference is i'm actually eating more and losing again. the extra veggies are really helping. guess they are speeding up my metabolism so i'm losing again
i had gotten into a bad habit of skipping meals and just grabbing a HNS or replacement meal shake or protein bar and not getting my veggies in.

like Jen and Patzi have always said, if you follow the plan, it actually works! YAY!!!!

Congrat's on your loss Bigdog! and for the reminder that if you follow the plan it actually works.........i switched back to metaslim (from metabalance) this last weekend and so far the scale has not budged :mad: No matter - I just keep eating on plan and have faith the pounds will eventually come off.:yes:

camaswa
03-02-2012, 01:47 PM
So I needed cat litter before leaving town for Berkeley and went to a local Target-like store. Some Levi boot cuts caught my eye and I grabbed a 10 and 12 Long without trying on. The 10s will have to go back, but the 12s were perfect. they stretched but didn't bag out on the plane. I'm writing from a cafe near campus, watching all the college girls in their leggings and skinny jeans. Who would have thought that boot cut is the new "mom jean." but hey, I'm seeing my share of muffin tops too. Makes me feel sad, really. I want to tell them, get it off while you are young! It's so much harder when you're an adult! (Plus your self esteem will thank you!). Oh well. My own girl is tiny and loves to run. Plus she can't eat gluten so naturally keeps the carbs on the low side. She's beautiful, of course!

I was running late and left all my HNSs on the counter- crap. Will just have to make the best choices I can. I have been bouncing around 166 about as long as Bigdog did with 170. Knowing you finally broke through is inspiring!

nwcgina
03-02-2012, 02:50 PM
camaswa-Woo hoo for finding some jeans...I love how levi boot cuts fit...and since they stretched without bagging...awesome jeans. Enjoy the time with your daughter.

Trying to stay absolutely OP the next 3 days and see what happens with the scale. I think I had upped my exercise a little too much for what I've been eating because my appetite has been unstoppable. I used to be able to say I felt "satisfied, not full" when I was OP, the past week I've felt mostly on the "always hungry" side. Partly TTOM, partly a lot of exercise...maybe some boredom on some days. I'd been taking bites of silly things I don't even like...so focus, focus, focus. It ends up I'm going with MIL to a women's conference this weekend, which means the meals are provided. I did contact the coordinator (a friend of mine) to see what the food would be to see what I should pack. I think there will be some healthy options but I also need to pack some and be ready to avert my eyes from the cookies.

patzi
03-02-2012, 02:55 PM
I had maintenance weigh in and stayed the same.. I am still 5 pounds under goal.. I am so delighted with this, as my scale after races said I was up 3 pounds. I ate out 4 days in a row, not badly, they were good choices, but I know the salt was there, as I still can't get my rings off.. What I did was the following..
Day after races, I went on shake with HNS mixed in for breakfast and lunch, regular meal at night. Second day, did the bar and HNS lunch and breakfast, regular meal at night and then stayed on green menu, and thank goodness it worked... Not easy not eating all those snacks everyone brought with them and all those tropical drinks.. Oh, well, such is life, I guess...I am glad now.

Congrats to all the losers. Be proud of yourself.

Patzi

rachels77
03-02-2012, 02:55 PM
Yay for the bootcut jeans! And, you're right... I've seen alot of 20-somethings and some teens with the muffin top! Yikes... I'm like you... it's sad. I remember being a size 9/10 in high school and thinking I was so huge! What I would give to go back and tell that teenager to hang on to your health and value your body and appreciate where you are, no matter the size...

Congrats, BigDog! You're on a roll!

Baby Doll - Congrats on the weight loss! So happy for you! I remember crying as I left the center with those happy tears! Go, you!

bigdog
03-02-2012, 03:12 PM
Yay for the bootcut jeans! And, you're right... I've seen alot of 20-somethings and some teens with the muffin top! Yikes... I'm like you... it's sad. I remember being a size 9/10 in high school and thinking I was so huge! What I would give to go back and tell that teenager to hang on to your health and value your body and appreciate where you are, no matter the size...

Congrats, BigDog! You're on a roll!

Baby Doll - Congrats on the weight loss! So happy for you! I remember crying as I left the center with those happy tears! Go, you!

i was small in Jr. high and high school. athletic, played all sports, rode my bike everywhere - pretty much ate what i wanted. used to prance around in hot pants and halter tops. my two older sisters who were always plus size kept telling me it would catch up w/ me. they had the boobs in the family - i was a member of the itty bitty t*tty club! they'd hold up my tiny little halters and make fun of me. Jealous!!! :-) went to college, gained the typical freshman 20! and still thought i was hot (i was!) and some guy called me Thunder thighs. i was like, who is HE talking to? i always had so much confidence and for him to say that, all of a sudden i started getting self conscious and covering up, working out less...it's crazy. plus all that nasty food in the cafeteria, everything was breaded and fried... so here i am :-)

JenB72
03-02-2012, 03:35 PM
Just had to share this. Told a co-worker about my stabilization party tonight. She wanted to celebrate my achievement...

With A Cake! :hb: Yes! A Cake!

Really?! :dunno:

MrsKatydid
03-02-2012, 03:42 PM
A cake?!? Come on!

JenB72
03-02-2012, 03:47 PM
She was completely serious and didn't understand my disbelief. Then again, she's told me for years she wanted to lose weight. Uh, hello?! This is part of your problem. She's asked me about MRC many times, but she's not serious about wanting to lose weight. Says she loves food too much. :dizzy:

nwcgina
03-02-2012, 03:59 PM
Maybe she meant steak;) Yup, lots of people ask what I've been doing but few are willing to actually change their life. I've been making a list of things I need to do to maintain...like keeping salads and veggie soups and veggie dishes a big part of my life...having just a few different rotating breakfast and lunch options...and my favorite, exercise!

ynapier
03-02-2012, 05:52 PM
I am a huge fan of boot cut jeans. I bought my first pair about 2 years ago and am kind of bummed that they are too big now. I will definately be getting more of those.

Jen I hope you have a wonderful time at your stabilization party. Celebrate with a nice crispy salad and STEAK instead of cake. That's pretty funny!

I went to WI today during my lunch break and was down 3.5 which let me sign the 60 pound board. :D So I was only 2 days short of signing in February. I have really been focused and it has paid off. My new goal is to focus the entire month of March to reach my MRC goal by the end of the month. MRC goal is 185 while my personal goal is 180. I am hoping that with continued exercise I will loss a little while on stabilization. Once I get a little closer to the 185 I may decide that I'm happy there. I feel so much better now then I did just a few months ago. And the funny thing is I never knew that I felt that "bad" a few months ago.

rachels77
03-02-2012, 05:53 PM
Just had to share this. Told a co-worker about my stabilization party tonight. She wanted to celebrate my achievement...

With A Cake! :hb: Yes! A Cake!

Really?! :dunno:


Okay... That's scary. And sad... and confusing. Some people just don't get it. I can't say much... last week I told my mom we should grab a salad or something for lunch. She said that she wanted cashew chicken and couldn't I just go off it for a bit? Seriously?

BigDog - Oh dear! Sad about the guy calling you a name. I think it's so important to stress to our children how hurtful those things are... everyone remembers those hurtful, mean names and sayings LOOOONNNNGGG into adulthood.

patzi
03-02-2012, 08:35 PM
I was told today the Super Chocolate Drink mix we make the brownies with has been discontinued.

Patzi

bigdog
03-03-2012, 08:52 AM
congratulations Ynapier!!!
sounds like everyone is refocusing - myself included :-)

Gina, definitely having the right foods on hand is the key to success. when i have a big bowl of salad and veggies already cut up or put in ziplock bags, it's easier for me to stay on plan when it's available. keeps me from grabbing "bad" choices.

i'm thinking of a job change and waiting for a "sign" to make the move. Off topic but on my mind big time!!!!

Should i stay or should i go?...(isn't that a song?) :-)

nwcgina
03-03-2012, 05:50 PM
So here's how the day at the conference (food wise) went down. The breakfast was supposed to be casseroles, muffins, etc. So there COULD have been a perfect egg casserole I could have eaten, but you never know. I asked DH if he thought I should just go late and have breakfast at home or chance it...he said eat at home, know what you're eating. That was perfect advice. Got there just as they finished eating. Then lunch was a box lunch from Panera...complete with a huge turkey sandwich in which the bread along was probably 200-300 calories, a bag of chips, a cookie as big as my head, and an apple. Gave away the chips right away, threw the cookie in my bag to give to DH, put all of the turkey and spinach on just part of the bread (I'll skip my bread at supper and I skipped my dairy I was supposed to have at breakfast), ate a bunch of cherry tomatoes I brought with me, and the apple. So as best as I could be I was on plan. Now just for a big salad with chicken for supper. And to think in the past I would have eaten the whole sandwich and chips and cookie...and probably still would have snacked on chocolate! Eating with that way of thinking...decreasing the bread, not having chips or cookie, is something I can do.

I think I am read to switch to stabilization. I've done a lot of thinking about it and I really like my weight right here. Now if I lose some on stabilization, great. But right here I really am happy with where I am. Not just because I'm frustrated, I've actually been losing again. But because I'm ready. I'll talk to my consultant Monday and see. Since I'm an at home client I'm not exactly sure how it will work, I think she'll be sending me the plan and talking me through it.

nwcgina
03-03-2012, 05:55 PM
bigdog-did you hit your goal??? Last I read you were a pound or two away, but I just looked at your ticker....

bigdog
03-03-2012, 06:37 PM
Gina. One more pound to go! I had a couple mich ultras last nite so did not weigh in this am ;). Will wait till Sunday
Good job at the conference. Isn't it amazingthatevery event seems to have food and cocktails? I've gotten really good at picking out ingredients on plan out of meals. Like if there is pizza I blot it with a napkin to remove excess oil and eat the meat and veggies and some of the cheese leaving the crust. Subs I eat the meat and veggies and a bite of bread
In the am I eat grapefruit and eggs. I'd rather have the carbs in the fruit than my usual lite toast

Had some non fat Greek yogurt today w Splenda and cinnamon. It was really good!

bigdog
03-03-2012, 06:40 PM
Hey I wonder when I get to goal weight if my ticker
Will dance and sing?

bigdog
03-03-2012, 08:10 PM
I was told today the Super Chocolate Drink mix we make the brownies with has been discontinued.

Patzi

what's the nutritional break down? i bet we can find something similar on Diet Direct or Nashua Nutrition... let me know and i'll do some research for ya.

bigdog
03-03-2012, 08:19 PM
High Protein, Low Carb, Low Fat CHOCOLATE BROWNIE!!!
Submitted by: JULZDANCERUNS

Yes, I did just use the terms high protein, low carb, low fat, CHOCOLATE, and brownie in a recipe title... this isn't a lie folks, it's a tried and true concoction that is sure to knock your socks off! I bet you thought you'd never hear healthy and heavenly words combined in the same sentence, let alone, recipe! But here we have it... a brownie that is so good for you, and unbelievelably good to eat!

AND... it's a single serve recipe (so no temptations... even the best of foods should be eaten in moderation), takes but a minute to prepare, and an even shorter amount of time to make (plus it's microwavable!).

So enjoy this miraculouse, devine, and oh so delicous treat! I know that I have. Happy healthy eating!

Minutes to Prepare: 3

Minutes to Cook: 1

Number of Servings: 1


Ingredients

1 Scoop (approximately 1/4 cup) Designer Whey Protein Powder, Chocolate
1/4 Teaspoon Cinnamon
1/4 Teaspoon Vanilla Extract
1 Tablespoon Mott's Plus Applesauce
1 Tablespoon Water
1 Pack Stevia (Splenda is O.K., too)
1 oz. Philidelphia Fat-Free Cream Cheese
1 Tablespoon Hershey's Special Dark Chocolate Syrup

Directions

Combine Protein Powder, Cinnamon, Applesauce, Vanilla, and Water into a Microwave safe Coffee mug (or if you're really cool, a ramkin :D). Mix ingredients thouroughly until a "brownie like batter consistency" is achieved.

Next, add in Splenda, mixing it in evenly with the rest of the mixture. Once complete with mixing, insert Coffee mug into microwave.Cook on High for approximately one minute (Note: microwave powers may vary).

Remove from microwave, and tip over mug onto a plate. You may have to use a fork to remove sides of the "brownie", but it always falls out nicely for me.


Nutritional Info
Servings Per Recipe: 1
Amount Per Serving
Calories: 143.5
Total Fat: 2.0 g
Cholesterol: 5.0 mg
Sodium: 195.2 mg
Total Carbs: 8.4 g
Dietary Fiber: 0.3 g
Protein: 23.0 g

I thought this looked really good, havent tried it yet becuz i don't have the applesauce but i may try some substitutes :-) like berries...

patzi
03-03-2012, 09:12 PM
Big Dog.. Great recipe.. Thanks for sharing that.. Here is the Nutritional data I have on the SuperChocolate Drink Mix..
Nutrition Facts
Metabolic Research Center - Metabolic Super Chocolate Drink Mix
Servings: 0.3 oz 1 oz 1 container (9 oz ea.)
Calories 30 Sodium 0 mg
Total Fat 1 g Potassium 0 mg
Saturated 0 g Total Carbs 0 g
Polyunsaturated 0 g Dietary Fiber 0 g
Monounsaturated 1 g Sugars 0 g
Trans 0 g Protein 1 g
Cholesterol 0
carbs 6 grams
dietary fiber 1.5 g
Sugars 0

Has a bunch of proprietary fruit powder blends in there like blueberry, strawberry, etc.. amt. = 400MB
Has Cocoa powder 4250 MG

Also has other ingredients, but you get the idea from above..

Patzi

bigdog
03-04-2012, 09:53 AM
looks like it's mostly cocoa powder with the fruit powder blends and very low protein. i bet you could substitute cocoa powder and applesauce to make your brownies.
i made the high protein brownies from the recipe i shared but didn't have the cream cheese so used non fat greek yogurt. didn't have the applesauce so used mashed strawberries. haha!!!! thank goodness my DH is a Chef!! it was terrible and looked like dog doo. especially after it blew up in the microwave! i'll have to try it again w/ the right ingredients!

i bought a brownie mix from Diet Direct - Doctor's CarbRite Diet Extra Rich and Fudgy Brownies w/ chocolate chips that i'm going to make today.
but it does call for 1/2 cup of butter (should i substitute something or just go for it?) i'll have to do some research...maybe buy some prunes to substitute for butter or applesauce? i really don't want to use butter....of if i do, less. olive oil? (i really am Culinary challenged!!! and when i used to make stuff and take it home on visits, my mom would just laugh and pull me aside and say, you know you can buy muffins, cookies, etc. in delis...)

servings 12 brownies
cal. 204
fat 12 G (butter)
Carbs 19 G
Sugar 0 G
Fiber 3 G
Protein 5 G

nwcgina
03-04-2012, 12:22 PM
Bah! Big dilema. I haven't fully restocked my new wardrobe, but have been able to make do with what I have and it really does get me through most events...BUT...

I have an "interview" on Wed. "Interview" because (okay, I'll try my best to explain) I would be working at the same school providing athletic training services, I would just work for a different hospital. My current hospital is a little unstble financially, so another hospital wanted to provide services to the school, but the school wants to keep me. My hospital is still willing to provide services but the other hospital is trying to get the contract and in return get me to work for them...so really they are trying to woo me (and possibly my hospital is going to offer me more money as I told them the other hospital pays $8/hr more). Okay, so maybe you get the picture. Now here's the deal, I have some dress pants that kinda fit (most are too big in the butt or don't go with the one dressy jacket I have). I have a button up that is slightly too big but would work, especially with the jacket. So I "should" go shopping...but ugh! we know how "fun" (sarcasm) shopping for specific pieces should be...and my husband thinks what i have looks okay. And it's an hour to the nearest clothing shopping place.

bigdog
03-04-2012, 12:57 PM
i bet you look great! snap a photo and post it :-) an old trick my mom used when she lost weight and didn't want to buy all new clothes was she'd put her pants in the dryer on HOT! :-) to shrink them a bit... but that was for her "play" clothes so don't try this and ruin your clothes! i did try that w/ some cotton jackets....and it worked...
for interviews, good to wear what you feel comfortable in and sometimes brand new clothes are not going to be what you are used to.
me being in sales, i have my "lucky" clothes that i feel comfortable in to meet w/ big clients :-) to guarantee a sale. like if i don't have Red Door perfume on - my favorite signature scent - no sales for me! my mom used to buy it for me each Christmas to increase my sales! miss that woman each and every day!!!

Good luck w/ your interview...i was thinking about changing jobs but decided to meet w/ HR (Bad bad boss) and save my job
TMI, but hey, we are at our jobs 8 to 10 hours a day or more and it does affect who we are and even what we eat....

patzi
03-04-2012, 02:19 PM
Big Dog....

Substitute for butter.. I have used Smart Balance light margarine . You could also use olive oil, but I think the margarine would be better for weight loss or maintenance.
Talking about brownies, you old weight watcher members, remember the bean brownies made with beans.. Well, I had some that really were not too bad.. My husband would not even look at them when I told him they were made with beans.. LOL...

Nwcgina... I would wear what you think looks the best.. Why put extra stress on you to go shopping.. If hubby says looks great, then I would go for him. Want to wish you the best in your interview.. I know you will look great.

Hope y'all are having a nice day.I have been baking and freezing.

Patzi

bigdog
03-04-2012, 02:41 PM
Big Dog....

Substitute for butter.. I have used Smart Balance light margarine . You could also use olive oil, but I think the margarine would be better for weight loss or maintenance.
Talking about brownies, you old weight watcher members, remember the bean brownies made with beans.. Well, I had some that really were not too bad.. My husband would not even look at them when I told him they were made with beans.. LOL...

Nwcgina... I would wear what you think looks the best.. Why put extra stress on you to go shopping.. If hubby says looks great, then I would go for him. Want to wish you the best in your interview.. I know you will look great.

Hope y'all are having a nice day.I have been baking and freezing.

Patzi

i do remember the black bean brownies and they were great! could not tell they were made w/ beans. we used to also use pureed prunes. i miss the group meetings at WW... i was successful and reached Lifetime w/ WW but when they started having the meetings just in the evenings - i ended up not being able to go all the time due to working late or networking events...plus who likes to weigh in at 6:30pm.? bleah.. we would always share ideas for low point foods and recipes. that's why i love you guys here! i can post a question or problem and you always help me out :-)

i read online to substitute olive oil or applesauce but if i used pureed fruit to also use half of the oil or butter so they would come out right. altering too much and they would taste like crapola :-) kind of like my dog poo brownies i made last night. haha!

nwcgina
03-04-2012, 07:23 PM
Thanks gals...

bigdog-ALL of my clothes are new (either borrowed or hand me down)...so I don't feel overly comfortable in anything.

patzi-thanks! I know that the clothes only really hold the first impression so they are important, but also my own personality and experience will play a big role. I was reflecting on when I have interviewed other candidates and how much their wardrobe played a role (just don't stand out by showing your belly, having a huge muffin top, showing too much cleavage, have clothes pressed, etc.)

I did go shopping and bought a new top and pants which fit great, but they aren't my favorite. I'm going to try them on and compare them to the too big ones to see if I'm going to keep them or take them back and get soem summer clothes & khakis and just wear the too big ones for the interview...in my actual job I don't dress up that much (khakis and polo is my main attire), so I hate to have dress pants or button ups that I won't really wear much. But I may try them on and compare them to what I have adn think "oh yeah! I'd hire me." Also doing a lot of trying on of bras as the "sisters" have changed drastically. I bought a VS one, but I still have a hard time stomaching that much for an undergarment...bought something similar on sale at Kohl's...I'll compare them when I do the try on session. I'm pretty darn sure I'm ready to just stay at this size since I have 4 pairs of jeans in this size that I like and feel good.

bigdog
03-04-2012, 08:35 PM
Gina, i think you should get a new mirror because you look great!!!

this is funny but in my bathroom (the guest bathroom that i use) , one whole wall is a mirror and i'll walk by and say, hey, looking good and lift up my shirt and check out my stomach which is almost flat! i just can't believe it! then i'll turn sideways and priss around. hahah! maybe it's the mirror? but i like like like it! :dancer:

nwcgina
03-04-2012, 10:59 PM
bigdog-that's exactly what I was saying that probably didn't come out that way. I do like how I look "here" even though I am 4 lbs from my goal...so I'm ready to stabilize. And I do ahve some clothes...mainly jeans and casual tops, that do fit. So as I rebuild the "professional" part of my wardrobe I want to make sure the pieces I get are good pieces that I'm going to wear and not something I get just because I'm desparate. I'm not good at shopping in outfits and I need to!! I loved Maurice's today since they keep all their "short" sizes together...I think I'll go there to get some summer outfits.

Tamikl
03-04-2012, 11:40 PM
Well I hate to be a downer on such positive conversation, but I am not doing real well and need a little extra support I guess. I am in week 2 of Maintenance and not making real great choices. I think I am honestly overwhelmed with the freedoms and am feeling afraid right now. I feel sometimes limeys I am not as in control because I feel less restricted. My little sister has been recently diagnosed with breast cancer, so I am emotional on top of it all. A tough time...but I see myself making poor choices and get frustrated with my weakness then turn around and screw up again. I sure havent worked this hard to gain it all back...please help me. Any thoughts or words of wisdom
would be greatly appreciated right now.

nwcgina
03-05-2012, 12:11 AM
tami-I have no words of wisdom...I'm scared of exactly what you're talking about...once I have the freedom that I'll go crazy with bad choices. I told my husband today what if I take a bite of chocolate/carmel something and can't stop?? But you can make good choices. You made good choices to get you this far. Some of the maintainers may have more wisdom. Are you still journaling your food. I know from reading research that those who continue to journal their food do a better job of maintaining (I think planning goes with that). I know you and I have talked briefly about this book before but have you read made to crave? May be of help. She talks about getting out of that cycle of wanting to eat better, then messing up so we feel guilty and make another bad choice, then resolve to do better...

sarabeanne
03-05-2012, 12:36 AM
Hi All... I am fairly new to the program (day 8 of beige menu) and to date I have been rocking it. But last night I received terrible news and have been mourning all day, which equates to not eating and craving all of the comfort foods I used to turn to... any advice? Has anyone else suffered a family tragedy while OP and get back on track? I am worried about not being able to come back.

nwcgina
03-05-2012, 08:52 AM
sara-I had a big stressful situation a few weeks into the plan (a close friend was on life support after giving birth). The first thing I wanted to do was turn to cookies. I just had to tell myself over and over and over and over that eating would not change the situation. i literally cried for days and that comfort food kept calling, but I just kept having to say "you will not make her well, and you will make me unwell." It doesn't make it easier, but it helped me.

patzi
03-05-2012, 11:23 AM
In answer to TAMI... On this quote
Well I hate to be a downer on such positive conversation, but I am not doing real well and need a little extra support I guess. I am in week 2 of Maintenance and not making real great choices. I think I am honestly overwhelmed with the freedoms and am feeling afraid right now. I feel sometimes limeys I am not as in control because I feel less restricted. My little sister has been recently diagnosed with breast cancer, so I am emotional on top of it all. A tough time...but I see myself making poor choices and get frustrated with my weakness then turn around and screw up again. I sure havent worked this hard to gain it all back...please help me. Any thoughts or words of wisdom
would be greatly appreciated right now.

Tami...
You need to stop and breathe and refocus... I don't know if you cheated lots during your diet challenge, but if you did, this may be why you feel like this.. I have found people that took liberties while dieting, had a heck of a time with maintenance... Sooooo.. I know what you are talking about Cancer in the family.. I have been flying back to California for a sister with Cancer, back to Florida to take care of my job here, and back and forth up North as my daughter has had a stroke in her young age, so it is easy to be apprehensive... But you can do this.. Remember this always .. Failure is always success if you learn from it.. You need to put yourself in charge of this diet thing and eat new items in MODERATION. If it is a trigger point and you think you cannot do it, let it go, and try it later on when your mind is stronger. Start focusing on what you feel you can handle on this diet with the new choices and go slow.. Remember, you are in charge and only you, and no one has this power other than you.. I never think about what I can add to the diet. I just add whatever I can in moderation and keep it healthy.

Portion control is the key.. I was trying one -two new foods a week, if I gained, let them go and tried later... When personal setbacks occur, deal with them, shake them off best you can and move on. Fill yourself with positive energy with this maintenance. Please do not be frightened or apprehensive, as you should not be.. Live for each day on the diet .

As far as personal family medical problems.. I decided for myself instead of
fearing or even fighting the changes , try to deal with them as best as possible. Put your energy into making good and meaningful choices in every thing you do , which includes your maintenance choices.

My success in maintenance was to stay away from my trigger points as honestly, if I know that I can not have a few chips but eat the whole bag, it is off my list. I want you to remember the future is yours to create as you wish with maintenance. I wish you the best and if at any time I can help you, please feel free to ask. Go slow with your new choices and you will be fine. Remember me saying so many times, I never said it would be easy, but I said it would be worth it.

Patzi

rachels77
03-05-2012, 11:31 AM
Sara and Tami -

I hate to hear that you are struggling. Stress plays a huge factor (along with lack of sleep) in my weight gain and/or maintaining... I did a slippery slope of eating this weekend as well. It started Friday night with a church dinner with my hubster... it was Italian, which I knew, but there were NO OP choices! So, I did my best to avoid most of the pasta in the dishes and allowed myself a tiny portion of desert... and GAINED a pound on Saturday... ugh. I thought I knew better and could handle things but I realize that, in this stage of my plan, I need to stay strict... I seem to crave the structure.

Tami - I wish I could help you more... but I'm not familiar with the details on maintenance... but I will say this: with the bad news about your sister and the things going on, cut yourself some slack. You have a right to feel sad and depressed, you know? And, maybe if it's easier to switch to "robot mode" on eating (i.e. your "go to" meals on plan... salads... chicken... whatever) and then switch back when things have settled down, would that be easier?

Sara - I have not had any family issues while being OP, but I do have a child with birth defects and some things with her bother me quite a bit... my best advice when life happens? Do the best you can... plan, plan, plan the meals... rest, rest, rest and more rest (I tend to gain when I'm tired)... and get that water in!

Have a great day, ladies!!

Tamikl
03-05-2012, 12:26 PM
In answer to TAMI... On this quote
Well I hate to be a downer on such positive conversation, but I am not doing real well and need a little extra support I guess. I am in week 2 of Maintenance and not making real great choices. I think I am honestly overwhelmed with the freedoms and am feeling afraid right now. I feel sometimes limeys I am not as in control because I feel less restricted. My little sister has been recently diagnosed with breast cancer, so I am emotional on top of it all. A tough time...but I see myself making poor choices and get frustrated with my weakness then turn around and screw up again. I sure havent worked this hard to gain it all back...please help me. Any thoughts or words of wisdom
would be greatly appreciated right now.

Tami...
You need to stop and breathe and refocus... I don't know if you cheated lots during your diet challenge, but if you did, this may be why you feel like this.. I have found people that took liberties while dieting, had a heck of a time with maintenance... Sooooo.. I know what you are talking about Cancer in the family.. I have been flying back to California for a sister with Cancer, back to Florida to take care of my job here, and back and forth up North as my daughter has had a stroke in her young age, so it is easy to be apprehensive... But you can do this.. Remember this always .. Failure is always success if you learn from it.. You need to put yourself in charge of this diet thing and eat new items in MODERATION. If it is a trigger point and you think you cannot do it, let it go, and try it later on when your mind is stronger. Start focusing on what you feel you can handle on this diet with the new choices and go slow.. Remember, you are in charge and only you, and no one has this power other than you.. I never think about what I can add to the diet. I just add whatever I can in moderation and keep it healthy.

Portion control is the key.. I was trying one -two new foods a week, if I gained, let them go and tried later... When personal setbacks occur, deal with them, shake them off best you can and move on. Fill yourself with positive energy with this maintenance. Please do not be frightened or apprehensive, as you should not be.. Live for each day on the diet .

As far as personal family medical problems.. I decided for myself instead of
fearing or even fighting the changes , try to deal with them as best as possible. Put your energy into making good and meaningful choices in every thing you do , which includes your maintenance choices.

My success in maintenance was to stay away from my trigger points as honestly, if I know that I can not have a few chips but eat the whole bag, it is off my list. I want you to remember the future is yours to create as you wish with maintenance. I wish you the best and if at any time I can help you, please feel free to ask. Go slow with your new choices and you will be fine. Remember me saying so many times, I never said it would be easy, but I said it would be worth it.

Patzi

Thank you, Patzi...very helpful. I need to figure out the psychology behind what you said about cheating while on the diet...I did do plenty of that, but not understanding how that relates to now?? Maybe because I am allowing myself too much freedom too quickly..believing that now I can justify those previous "cheats" because I am on Maintenance now??

I NEED structure with this....I need a menu that lays it out exactly...like the Green did, otherwise I find myself all over the place. They give you a basic "schedule" of how many servings under each category per day, but this isn't enough for me at the moment. I will talk to my counselor. I guess until I am stronger where food temptations are concerned, I need more structure. I am humbly admitting that I am weak when it comes to food. I know in my head to avoid that homemade fudge in the kitchen, but can't seem to do it all of the time. I feel so weak and that is embarrassing.

Tamikl
03-05-2012, 12:28 PM
tami-I have no words of wisdom...I'm scared of exactly what you're talking about...once I have the freedom that I'll go crazy with bad choices. I told my husband today what if I take a bite of chocolate/carmel something and can't stop?? But you can make good choices. You made good choices to get you this far. Some of the maintainers may have more wisdom. Are you still journaling your food. I know from reading research that those who continue to journal their food do a better job of maintaining (I think planning goes with that). I know you and I have talked briefly about this book before but have you read made to crave? May be of help. She talks about getting out of that cycle of wanting to eat better, then messing up so we feel guilty and make another bad choice, then resolve to do better...

Thank you, Gina :) I am still journaling. I am going to look into this book!

Tamikl
03-05-2012, 12:29 PM
Sara and Tami -

I hate to hear that you are struggling. Stress plays a huge factor (along with lack of sleep) in my weight gain and/or maintaining... I did a slippery slope of eating this weekend as well. It started Friday night with a church dinner with my hubster... it was Italian, which I knew, but there were NO OP choices! So, I did my best to avoid most of the pasta in the dishes and allowed myself a tiny portion of desert... and GAINED a pound on Saturday... ugh. I thought I knew better and could handle things but I realize that, in this stage of my plan, I need to stay strict... I seem to crave the structure.

Tami - I wish I could help you more... but I'm not familiar with the details on maintenance... but I will say this: with the bad news about your sister and the things going on, cut yourself some slack. You have a right to feel sad and depressed, you know? And, maybe if it's easier to switch to "robot mode" on eating (i.e. your "go to" meals on plan... salads... chicken... whatever) and then switch back when things have settled down, would that be easier?

Sara - I have not had any family issues while being OP, but I do have a child with birth defects and some things with her bother me quite a bit... my best advice when life happens? Do the best you can... plan, plan, plan the meals... rest, rest, rest and more rest (I tend to gain when I'm tired)... and get that water in!

Have a great day, ladies!!

I like the "robot" idea! That WORKS for me! Thank you:)

patzi
03-05-2012, 01:54 PM
nwcgina...

I agree with what you said on journaling on maintenance.. I still journal every day.

Patzi

JenB72
03-05-2012, 02:30 PM
Past due update...Went to my stabilization party on Friday. Had fun and I won the trivia contest! Got a free bottle of F&C Blockers. Love them! Then my hubby had to work all weekend which means solo munchkin duty for me. I'm so glad I had a plan going into the weekend or it could have been a disaster. I've never really done this before, not sure why, but I went ahead and mapped out my meals for the weekend. I made some changes, but stayed OP. It paid off because I was down another half pound at my WI today. 2.5 pounds to go.

Tami & Sara, I hate that y'all are going through such rough times right now. I'm definitely not the poster child for dealing with stress and staying OP. I turned to my comfort foods during 2 deaths in the family last year. What I did do was not let that be a permanent change. It may have taken a week or two (never more than that), but I forced myself to get back OP. I would think to myself, what were my "habits" for staying OP. And, like Rachel said, I'd go into "robot mode" and do those things I would when I was on plan. For instance, my thing is that after I go WI, I go across the street to the convenience store and get a soda (I'm sipping on it right now ;) ). It may sound trivial, but things like that is what helped me get back on track. Then, I'd add another habit back in and before I knew, I was OP again. Try not to beat yourself up to bad, life happens, but above all else, learn from it and get back in the game. :hug:

nwcgina
03-05-2012, 03:35 PM
tami-a few thoughts with needing structure. One is to make your own menu of just a few meals that you'll use for breakfast and/or lunch. And you dont' stray from it unless it is truly a unique occasion. That's what I plan on doing...breakfast will basically continue to be eggs and bread with some milk and fruit (I already get milk, I'm going to start metabalance stabilization and I think I add fruit into breakfast first...she said it was different from metaslim stabilization). Then lunch will either be a veggie based soup with protein or a salad with protein...and I'll know through the process of stabilization what starch I can handle for lunch. I will probably also have a small list of snacks for my in between meals so they only meal in question is supper and I always, always, always plan that out (even before starting MRC). So you'll be setting your own structure. Also, if there are tempting foods around, just as before, get rid of them. I will always have to keep my chocolate in the freezer. I can't let DH keep regular soda in the house. We don't keep chips in the house. A strange one...I can't keep animal crackers in the house...I will eat and eat and eat those stupid things. That will be always and forever...changing my environment. We will not get drive through fast food unless we are on vacation (and even then I'll probably find a subway to get a salad because I've found they're really good).

Told my consultant I was ready to stabilize. I've been hungry and I want to exercise even more but am too afraid I'll be so ravenous I'll start eating uncontrolably...plus I feel awesome here. So she's sending me the metabalance stabilization. I was hoping to have it by now. She thought I got to add in a fruit at breakfast and switch out an HNS with a food protein.

LeoTheLioness
03-05-2012, 04:43 PM
Hi Guys!
Just wanted to "pop in" for a sec to say "hey!" and let you guys know I'm still fighting the good fight (lost over the weekend, but that's a whole 'nother story for when I have more time).
Been super-duper busy!
Will be back soon!

nwcgina
03-05-2012, 05:13 PM
Got my metabalance stabilization...and it definitely sounds different from the metaslim...for one thing it is only 3 weeks of stabilization then maintenance. The first week I just switch out my morning snack HNS with a protein serving (like cheese...I'll probably do cheese. I want whatever I add in to be consistent over time so I can know if it causing gain...I can always experiment later).

sarabeanne
03-06-2012, 12:58 AM
sara-I had a big stressful situation a few weeks into the plan (a close friend was on life support after giving birth). The first thing I wanted to do was turn to cookies. I just had to tell myself over and over and over and over that eating would not change the situation. i literally cried for days and that comfort food kept calling, but I just kept having to say "you will not make her well, and you will make me unwell." It doesn't make it easier, but it helped me.

Thank you so much for your words of support... My father just passed from a heart attack. Although it feels harsh to me, I am telling myself that if I make the right choices, even during this time when we are grieving, I won't have the problems he had the last 15 years of his life. I miss him but tell myself he would want better for me.

Thank you again for your supportive words

sarabeanne
03-06-2012, 01:00 AM
Past due update...Went to my stabilization party on Friday. Had fun and I won the trivia contest! Got a free bottle of F&C Blockers. Love them! Then my hubby had to work all weekend which means solo munchkin duty for me. I'm so glad I had a plan going into the weekend or it could have been a disaster. I've never really done this before, not sure why, but I went ahead and mapped out my meals for the weekend. I made some changes, but stayed OP. It paid off because I was down another half pound at my WI today. 2.5 pounds to go.

Tami & Sara, I hate that y'all are going through such rough times right now. I'm definitely not the poster child for dealing with stress and staying OP. I turned to my comfort foods during 2 deaths in the family last year. What I did do was not let that be a permanent change. It may have taken a week or two (never more than that), but I forced myself to get back OP. I would think to myself, what were my "habits" for staying OP. And, like Rachel said, I'd go into "robot mode" and do those things I would when I was on plan. For instance, my thing is that after I go WI, I go across the street to the convenience store and get a soda (I'm sipping on it right now ;) ). It may sound trivial, but things like that is what helped me get back on track. Then, I'd add another habit back in and before I knew, I was OP again. Try not to beat yourself up to bad, life happens, but above all else, learn from it and get back in the game. :hug:

Congrats on your stabilization party and your continued success!! Thank you very much for the supportive ideas. I am going to look into getting some carbonated water to mix my HNS in so the are a little bubbly, I think the fiz might help with some of them. The gals at the center have been a great support.

JenB72
03-06-2012, 09:42 AM
Sara, I am so sorry about your dad. My prayers are with you and your family. Please know we are here if you need to vent. :hug:

nwcgina
03-06-2012, 09:47 AM
Sara-sorry about your loss. Do the best you can during your time of grief. Like you said, a reminder of why you want to get healthy.

I start stabilization today. Excited as I lost a pound since yesterday (I always do the day after I talk to my counselor on the phone...) If anyone needs a recommendation on a strength training video you can do at home I highly recommend Jackie WArner's Power Circuit (she's got a few, that's my favorite...along with the xtreme time saver). I've been doing the 40 minute full body workout 2x a week and seeing a huge difference. There's also a 15 minute full body that gets all the body parts (and probably the best place to start if you aren't used to strength training). There are also 15 minute sections for abs (killer), legs, and arms if you just want to focus on one area. I just got done with the 40 and I'm all sweaty and muscles shakey so I know I worked it:)

Galadreal
03-06-2012, 11:25 AM
Lost another 1.5 pounds over the weekend at weigh in yesterday. The Wii, said I was down a total of 5 since I started 2 weeks before, but that was on Saturday. Slow, but since I had a cheat night I can understand it.

No more cheating until next week, we have tickets to see the Peking Acrobats, and honestly seeing how well toned and muscular those people are is pretty good motivation. I still feel motivated from seeing the drummers last week, some of those women had awesome arms and back mucles...I have muscle envy.

Made peach smoothies this morning with the plain nonfat greek yogurt, a cup of frozen peaches, packet of truvia, and my peach mango HNS. Not bad.

Feeling kind of rambly today, worried about husband, his grandmothers funeral is today and we could not make the flight back to Washington for it. I have that whole running around in circle, ringing my hands, trying to figure out what to do mentality right now. URGH! :faint:

ynapier
03-06-2012, 11:28 AM
Sara - I'm sorry for you loss. We are here to help you through this. I will be praying for you and your family.

patzi
03-06-2012, 11:54 AM
Sara...
I am so sorry for your loss.. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

Congrats to the gals on stabilization. I wish you the best, and congrats to all that have lost weight.If anyone needs help on stabilization, please feel free to ask..

I was told today that it has been 9 months since I have been on maintenance and I have never gone over the goal.. I did not think it was that long. I weighed in today and stayed the same, 5 pounds under goal.U am very happy with that.. I am experimenting adding grains to diet, as they are big trigger points to me. I have added some for 4 days and no gain, so that is a plus.. Not large amt..

For those that are having a problem with HNS ... I mix mine with a flavored decaf. iced tea and drink it all day long. I have it on ice.. Center told me Iced dec. tea can take the place of water and I drink 64 oz. of it daily. Today I have red raspberry tea with grape HNS mixed in and a little stevia and lots of ice. Very refreshing..

Wishing you all a great day.

Patzi

Tamikl
03-06-2012, 01:49 PM
Hi ladies...

Wow, quite a few of us going through some tough times, and that certainly does make this journey a bit tougher some days.

I want to thank you all for helping me to get back up this week. You don't just fall down while you are losing weight! LOL Some of us crash and burn and we don't even have weight to lose like when we started!!

I continue to be hard on myself...so stopping and breathing has helped...being more forgiving of ourselves us really huge.

I will get stronger, but it just may not happen as quickly as I would like...obviously:) Just so grateful for the support right here...truly!

I have been thinking...there are many items I used to have that don't appear to get to be a regular part of my diet...even now that I am on Maintenance. Can't go back to what we used to do or we will be right back where we started....I do get that. I have an idea, and need someone to tell me how it sounds...

I WI once per week...so every 7 days. In that 7 days, what if I tried "Green Menu" 4 of them, and the other 3 days let loose a bit? For example: I LOVE cereal, but it has NOT been a part of my diet while losing weight. What if I had it 3 mornings a week, and my normal items the other 4? Maybe instead of a salad every time I do Subway, I could have an actual sandwich once or twice a week? My dinners are pretty consistent....and no real desire to change those.

I don't know...does this sound like I am heading down the wrong path or way of thinking doing it this way? Like now, I can have snacks mid afternoon....but I get worried that if I don't choose a "hard boiled egg" I might gain. Maybe I am being paranoid...

Patzi? What does a typical day look like for you...meals/snacks?

Any ideas?? I would love a discussion on this!

patzi
03-06-2012, 02:13 PM
Tami...
I am still experimenting, as I have so many trigger points... Today is a typical day for me...Remember Tami... Journal. This is so important as if you gain, take journal in to consultant and go overit and you would be surprised what they pick up as the reason.

Breakast... Egg quiche muffin( recipe I put in recipe forum) and 2 home made sausage patties, , Coffee, soy milk, and sweetened with stevia, small cup of strawberries. If I have cereal for breakfast have it twice a week only, as this is a trigger with me.. I mean cold cereal. Oatmeal is fine.

Snack... soy mozzarella cheese, basil, tomato & a light dressing.Most of time I do not have a snack during day because I would rather have the baked oatmeal. Today I felt like it so brought it into work & yup, ate it..
HNS

Lunch... Homemade Greek turkey burger, string beans , mixed tropical fruit

Every day I have baked oatmeal with Greek yogurt or fat free ricotta cheese on top that has been sweetened with stevia & sprinkled with Jello powder, usually lemon. I have that when I get home with iced coffee If I want a bigger piece of baked oatmeal, I forego any carb like bread or grain at night

Supper... Barbecued chicken, veggies plus a green veggie like collards, kale, etc... 1/4 cup of brown rice.

Snack at night... Cocoa ...

Tami... I cannot eat carbs at night, as I gain.. If I eat carbs have to have fat with it, and I won't gain, so I just don't bother.

Also most of the time I have 1 HNS and one creamy, sometimes I have none. Depends on if I feel like it.. I eat what I want , when I want it, and hope for the best. If a gain, rethink it..

If I am out and want wine, I have no fruit at all during the day, and usually light on carbs.

Any questions on this, please ask.

Patzi

nwcgina
03-06-2012, 02:20 PM
I think you are on the right track with having some consistent go to meals. Maybe with the cereal, start with having a breakfast you've been having 5 or 6 of the days, just switching to cereal 1 or 2 (non consectutive days)...then if you don't see a gain and your general well being isn't any different....you could add another. Same with the lunch. Try a sub one day of the week. If it doesn't cause gain and you want a 2nd, have a second day. If you know about how many calories you want to consume per meal, you can easily make 3 or 4 "go to" meals in that calorie range. That is how I'm going to approach it (that's what I was working on now. I have 3 weeks of stabilization left, but started looking at what my basic plan will be...and as I want to add things in I'll do it slowly, just making one change at time). One thing I am hoping for is that I'll be able to have one evening meal a week that I can be a little looser...pizza (much less than I used to and with a salad) or enchilladas or something. My go to noon meals will continue to be a chicken salad or "pumpkin" pie (made with spagetti squash) and eggs/toast for breakfast. But i'm with you, if I can have cereal even just one day it will break up the monotony...but I also don't want to open it wide to all the possible options, that's when I start to overeat. My sister and I were just talking about this yesterday...that we tend to want to treat each meal of our day as a "feast"...when really such a mindset should be reserved for truly special occasions.

Baby Doll
03-06-2012, 02:22 PM
High Protein, Low Carb, Low Fat CHOCOLATE BROWNIE!!!
Submitted by: JULZDANCERUNS

Yes, I did just use the terms high protein, low carb, low fat, CHOCOLATE, and brownie in a recipe title... this isn't a lie folks, it's a tried and true concoction that is sure to knock your socks off!

BigDog, Thank you so very much for posting this recipe! :angel: Any baked goods (especially chocolate) are my weakness. I plan to try this recipe this week.

patzi
03-06-2012, 03:14 PM
I think you are on the right track with having some consistent go to meals. Maybe with the cereal, start with having a breakfast you've been having 5 or 6 of the days, just switching to cereal 1 or 2 (non consectutive days)...then if you don't see a gain and your general well being isn't any different....you could add another. Same with the lunch. Try a sub one day of the week. If it doesn't cause gain and you want a 2nd, have a second day. If you know about how many calories you want to consume per meal, you can easily make 3 or 4 "go to" meals in that calorie range. That is how I'm going to approach it (that's what I was working on now. I have 3 weeks of stabilization left, but started looking at what my basic plan will be...and as I want to add things in I'll do it slowly, just making one change at time). One thing I am hoping for is that I'll be able to have one evening meal a week that I can be a little looser...pizza (much less than I used to and with a salad) or enchilladas or something. My go to noon meals will continue to be a chicken salad or "pumpkin" pie (made with spagetti squash) and eggs/toast for breakfast. But i'm with you, if I can have cereal even just one day it will break up the monotony...but I also don't want to open it wide to all the possible options, that's when I start to overeat. My sister and I were just talking about this yesterday...that we tend to want to treat each meal of our day as a "feast"...when really such a mindset should be reserved for truly special occasions.

You have this down pat.. Pizza will be fine, it is all in moderation... And when you are having it , enjoy it. You deserve to be at this point of your challenge.. Many times when I have a meal out like this, I will do the green menu the next day and then go back to maintenance...Sometimes I do not. You said one thing that is so important.. You don't want to open it wide to all the possible options and maybe overeat.. I feel the same way.. I am glad you posted this. All invaluable information you have stated that I know will help others on this board.

Patzi

Galadreal
03-06-2012, 04:38 PM
You have this down pat.. Pizza will be fine, it is all in moderation... And when you are having it , enjoy it. You deserve to be at this point of your challenge.. Many times when I have a meal out like this, I will do the green menu the next day and then go back to maintenance...Sometimes I do not. You said one thing that is so important.. You don't want to open it wide to all the possible options and maybe overeat.. I feel the same way.. I am glad you posted this. All invaluable information you have stated that I know will help others on this board.

Patzi

All things in moderation...including moderation :D

nwcgina
03-06-2012, 04:44 PM
patzi-it was you telling how you try one thing at a time and leave it out if it causes gain that has helped me develop the strategy of just adding in one thing at a time and not making big changes...it totally makes sense to me. When I got my stabilization plan and the list of starches opens up widely I at first was happy then thought "what if I start eating these and gain it all back"...so I'll try one new starch a week (when I first add to my noon meal I'm going to just do melba or bread since I know those don't cause me to gain).

ynapier
03-06-2012, 05:29 PM
What a great discussion about maintenance. I think I'm about a month away from stabilization. At my center they have stabilization once a month and it is usually the last Tuesday of the month. Well I have paid for program time through the month of March so does that mean I that I have to wait until the end of April to stabilize. I would be OK with that since it would give me extra time to get to my goal which is 5 pounds less than their goal for me. I'm not going to mention it unless they bring it up and try to cut me short.

I went to WI today and saw a number I haven't seen in a LONG time. 199! I made it to onederland! I lost a pound since Friday. It always worries me when I WI on Tuesday because the weekends are a little more difficult since I have more options available at home. At work I have what I bring and that's all. Sometimes when I'm home, I have the wondering mind and think I could have this or that to eat. Granted I don't usually eat what I'm thinking about but it's still easier when I'm at work.

nwcgina
03-06-2012, 05:49 PM
Y-way to go! 199! 199!!

Had an emotional moment (opened a hornet's nest at work...figuratively, not literally)...had my "supper" melba to deal. Ugh...would have been better to just not give in at all.

patzi
03-06-2012, 07:16 PM
I put a recipe called baked oatmeal in the recipe thread.. I have always made this in a pan and I double recipe as my hubby also eats it.. A friend of mine tried making it into muffins and said they came out great..

Patzi

Tamikl
03-06-2012, 07:37 PM
Well I think I most definitely haven't taken adding foods slowly:(. I have been so excited that I am trying everything....obviously not wise since now I can't point to any one item in particular that may be a cause for gain. Well lesson learned from Tami ladies! There is no hurry...Maintenance means gradual additions. I just want to know what I can have and all that I can have right now...and it doesn't work like that. I am always in a hurry...lol
Maintenance is sorta hard...but once we figure out our own bodies, the better off we will be in the long run! The proble with Patzi's oatmeal bake is that it is too good to stop at one serving!! I need to stick with foods I don'tike so much...seriously:)

camaswa
03-06-2012, 08:27 PM
This is such a good conversation about maintenance! I think it should probably not look all that much different than the diet, really: more variety perhaps bit not a radically increased amount of anything. I am coming to see that a lot of carbs really are not worth it. And like Patzi. I gain when I eat them at night.

NotaFatBride
03-06-2012, 10:46 PM
Hello march board! I am back after getting married, having a baby and now getting laid off. I figure I have the spare time I should take advantage of my time at home to work out, eat healthy and win this fight against fat! I need to change my name. I am thinking Not a Fat Mom? Or maybe FutureMILF? Maybe not the milf that might be a little weird. My center is completely different. Do they not take blood pressure anymore?

Does anyone have any new fun workout recommendations? Getting sick of pilates, yoga ahd stationary bike.

Looking forward to being a loser this month.

nwcgina
03-06-2012, 11:17 PM
Susie-I posted earlier that I"m loving my Jackie WArner power circuit DVD for workouts...but the whole thing was too much when I was on metaslim...I could do the 15 minute total body. I also like any dance workout.

camaswa-you're exactly right...I think true maintenance that lasts doesn't look a ton different, just some bigger portions, a few more options (I mean they are really unlimited...but self-limiting to control overeating), and PLANNED splurges and then getting right back to healthy eating.

My interview is tomorrow. Ended up going with a pair of pants I already had and a button up I got at a consignment store. The pants I bought needed one of those thick belts (which I bought)...but then for shirts that hit a little longer it jut didn't look right. Taking them back and getting the ones I really liked even if I have to order them. Day 1 of stabilization was good. Big busy day tomorrow so I won't have much time to thinki about eating (that's when it's good for me to be in robot mode AND have stuff cooked and ready to go).

Tripletmom08
03-06-2012, 11:55 PM
I'd like to join, I just signed up today, and go for my menu orientation this Friday. Honestly I could use all the encouragement I can get. (I have a love hate relationship with carbs and diets... :/)
Also I'm going out of town on the 14th AND will be hosting a birthday party this weeken, *willpower, don't fail me now!*

sarabeanne
03-07-2012, 01:44 AM
Thank you all for your kind and supportive words. It means a lot to me as I continue to process everything.

My supervisor sent me home for the week so I have been trying my best to keep a normal routine outside of working. Which means that I went and weighed in today... lost 3 pounds since last WI for a total of 13lbs in 16 days. Also lost a total of 15 inches, all in the torso so that is very gratifying.

@Tripletmom, I read your other post and I will be honest, I was very skeptical signing up (even tho a dear friend lost 80lbs on MRC) and still, despite obvious progess, have some doubt. Most of that is around my ability to continue to stay OP, not so much in the program itself. Good Luck :)

Galadreal
03-07-2012, 10:16 AM
Suzie, you should totaly check out belldance with Neena and Veena. I use some of their older DVDs, Arms and Abs and Hips, Buns, and Thighs that I got years ago, and they are awesome. Most of the time, like with the rib slides you don't even realize you are working out your core, but the next day you do not want to move...so you may want to start out with their Basic Moves and Fat Burning DVD, each DVD comes with 2 workouts on it. Honestly the first time my husband tried doing the fat burning with me he made himself sick, it is really intense if you are not use to it.

I know you can get them at their website bellytwins.com, but I think you can also get them from amazon for alot cheaper. I love these things, but I want to steal their clothes. And they have awesome bellydance routines that run through the credits.

Good lord, I sound like an infomercial. Sorry! I just think these work well.

JenB72
03-07-2012, 10:31 AM
Welcome to all our newbies :wave:, congrats to all our "losers" :goodscale:, and
big hugs to those of you going through rough patchs :grouphug:.



Great quote from MRC on their FB page I thought was worth sharing if you hadn't seen it yet:


If you focus on results, you will never change. If you focus on change, you will get results. - Jack Dixon





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MrsKatydid
03-07-2012, 11:37 AM
Sara, I am so sorry for your loss. You and your family are in my prayers.

Congrats to all those on stabilization. I am amazed at your success!
An down 16 pounds since I started on Valentines Day. When I hit 20 I think i am planning a night out to the movies and to be honest - a Mexican food cheat. I did cheat last Thursday. I had a f&@$ it moment and got pizza on the way home. I only had 2 peices of pizza and still lost. I won't be repeating that hopefully. :o

JenB72
03-07-2012, 01:11 PM
When I hit 20 I think i am planning a night out to the movies and to be honest - a Mexican food cheat.

For what it's worth, one of the biggest things our counselors have taught us is when you hit mini-goals do NOT reward yourself with food. As they've told me, rewarding yourself with food is setting yourself up for disaster. It's things like that that put us all in the position we're in. They taught us to try to find other ways to reward yourself. We had a thread on this a while back. Ladies were getting mani's or pedi's, a new outfit, things like that. It's totally your call, but I thought I'd share what we've been through.

Baby Doll
03-07-2012, 01:31 PM
I have been hunting for diet recipes that my husband will actually eat and like. He has been very supportive about my diet but gets bored with food very easily. I found a recipe for "Mock" mashed potatoes yesterday. When my husband tried it, he thought I had actually served him "real" mashed potatoes. Here's the recipe:

1 head cauliflower
1 tablespoon fat free cream cheese, softened
1/4 cup grated Parmesan cheese
1/2 teaspoon minced garlic
1/8 teaspoon straight chicken base
1/8 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1/2 teaspoon chopped fresh or dry chives, for garnish
I Can't Believe Its Butter spray

Set a stockpot of water to boil over high heat. Clean and cut cauliflower into small pieces. Cook in boiling water for about 6 minutes, or until well done. Drain well; do not let cool and pat cooked cauliflower very dry between several layers of paper towels. In a food processor, puree the hot cauliflower with the cream cheese, Parmesan, garlic, chicken base, and pepper until almost smooth.

Garnish with chives, and serve hot with I Can't Believe Its Butter spray.
Serves 4-6

Galadreal
03-07-2012, 01:31 PM
Sara, I am so sorry for your loss. You and your family are in my prayers.

Congrats to all those on stabilization. I am amazed at your success!
An down 16 pounds since I started on Valentines Day. When I hit 20 I think i am planning a night out to the movies and to be honest - a Mexican food cheat. I did cheat last Thursday. I had a f&@$ it moment and got pizza on the way home. I only had 2 peices of pizza and still lost. I won't be repeating that hopefully. :o

I am gonna be honest, my husband and I have "date nughts" and on those nights I go OP, I don't go nuts and eat like crazy, but maybe order a pizza or go out and enjoy a burger before we go see a show. It does slow me down something fierce. But at the same time, on a night when I want to just relax and enjoy my husband's company I don't want to worry about how much or how little I am eating. I figure as long as I stay reasonable and understand that I will need to be accountable for what I eat then it is not a problem.

In truth I am saving up, I have a coupon for a free chocolate massage (90 minute deep tissue massage with coco oil) that my husband got me for Valentines day. I figure when I hit the 20 mark (maybe 30, I am only at 8 now) then I will go get a massage. It is alot more expensive than a night out and an ice cream cone, but damn it feels good.:devil:

patzi
03-07-2012, 02:59 PM
Hi...
I was told the same as Jen from my consultant about rewarding myself with food when I lose... It is not a good thing and could lead to bad habits while on your journey... Best to stay OP , that is the way to getting to maintenance. Best to reward yourself with a manicure, some clothing, etc..

Want to say welcome to the newbies, and congrats to all that lost weight, and those that are struggling, hang in there, it is all worth it.

For you newbies, I am on maintenance 9 months now..

Patzi

MrsKatydid
03-07-2012, 03:57 PM
Hi...
I was told the same as Jen from my consultant about rewarding myself with food when I lose... It is not a good thing and could lead to bad habits while on your journey... Best to stay OP , that is the way to getting to maintenance. Best to reward yourself with a manicure, some clothing, etc..

Want to say welcome to the newbies, and congrats to all that lost weight, and those that are struggling, hang in there, it is all worth it.

For you newbies, I am on maintenance 9 months now..

Patzi

Thanks for the advice and I know y'all are right. The way I quit smoking was to promise myself a cigarette after I had quit a week, and when I got there I didn't want one - then a month, a year , etc. finally it was in 3 years after I finish the bar exam I will have a drink and one glorious cigarette. I didn't want one. I guess when I think the option is off the table I tend to panic and backslide. Of I keep it my head that I can have it on special circumstances, I will work harder for it. I can't promise I won't partake. But that big plate of chicken tacos and black beans helps me get through the grilled chicken salads and cottage cheese.

But gracious I don't know!!! I guess we will see.

MrsKatydid
03-07-2012, 03:58 PM
On the other hand a massage and a facial does sund awesome!

Galadreal
03-07-2012, 05:45 PM
On the other hand a massage and a facial does sund awesome!

If you are gonna reward, why not reward big?

nwcgina
03-07-2012, 06:49 PM
I'm with others that I haven't rewarded with food...my mom does after a good weight in and hasn't been as successful and I'm afraid she hasn't made the same life long changes. Maybe you still go out for mexican, but do chicken fajitas with only one shell and lots of the chicken/veggies. i actually didn't "reward" myself at all along the way, the weight going off itself was the reward (and now the clothes I have to buy since I've never been this size). I see my salads, veggies, protein as a way of life...yes, I'll be adding more, but the habits I'm adopting are going to follow me a long time.

so I had the strangest interview experience today. No questions about my strengths, weaknesses (I was expecting at least a little of the standard interview questions). As I expected, the director was really trying to convince me about why I should consider them...and after a rough morning at my current job it wasn't going to be hard to convince me:) (I didn't tip my hand). But it ends up being up to the athletic director at my school, but at last indication he's going to take my thoughts into strong consideration. I was hoping they'd ask something about some kind of difficulty I'd made it through and I would have talked about my 30+ pound loss (in my field, that would be considered "professional experience" as well). Lots to consider...I love my co-workers, but at the administrative level at my current job there is a lot of incompetence...I'm on the 4th CEO since I started 3 1/2 years ago...and he's just interim. And every new CEO I have to justify my job...and the other place is pursuing me.

Tamikl
03-07-2012, 07:12 PM
Sara, I am so sorry for your loss. You and your family are in my prayers.

Congrats to all those on stabilization. I am amazed at your success!
An down 16 pounds since I started on Valentines Day. When I hit 20 I think i am planning a night out to the movies and to be honest - a Mexican food cheat. I did cheat last Thursday. I had a f&@$ it moment and got pizza on the way home. I only had 2 peices of pizza and still lost. I won't be repeating that hopefully. :o

Hi there:). I need you to know that I personally understand. I realize that we shouldn't reward ourselves with food....but there was a period of time in my personal journey when that worked for me and helped my progress...didn't hinder it. My progress was slower at times, but I was ok with that too so long as I wasn't feeling deprived. I became quickly unsuccessful when I felt deprived. Basically, I WI once per week and if I had a loss, I would treat myself to something that day only. I drive in for WI from out of town, so gave myself permission to go out to lunch. My counselor was fine with this plan and it worked for me. That is what is important in this journey...needs to work for you. If having a "cheat" keeps you from getting burnt out and quitting the program, then do it...sensibly. Obviously, not everyone agrees with this mentality, but we are all different:). I wanted a small Frosty, not a manicure...lol. Hang in there...one day and meal at a time. It is a marathon, not a foot race!!!

Tripletmom08
03-07-2012, 08:42 PM
Are you all able to drink the water requirements daily? Have you noticed water consumption effects your weekly weight loss? I'm really struggling to drink it all, and I like water. :-(

Baby Doll
03-07-2012, 09:23 PM
Are you all able to drink the water requirements daily? Have you noticed water consumption effects your weekly weight loss? I'm really struggling to drink it all, and I like water. :-(


Before starting the MRC diet, I drank over 64 oz. of diet coke everyday. When I quit drink diet coke, I had a difficult time with caffeine withdrawal. :yawn: I ended up buying a thermal cup with a straw. I keep the glass full of ice water so I can sip on water all day long. This seems to help.

Tripletmom08
03-07-2012, 09:50 PM
That's a good idea. I was just at Walmart and I forgot to pick one of those up.

The lady at the center told me to drink 80oz rather than the 64 if I wanted to loose faster, anyone else heard of this???

Also what in the world do you all do when you get the munchies?

nwcgina
03-07-2012, 11:26 PM
@tripletmom-I do lose better if I drink 80 oz per day (they didn't tell me that, I found it on my own)...some days I drink 100, some days 80, occasionally 64. When I'm hungry but it's not time to eat I find that hot tea helps with my hunger. If my mouth just needs to be busy, sugar free gum helps.

re: the discussion on whether to reward yourself with food...I think some people (like Tami) can do it and it helps them make it through. Part of my problem pre-MRC is I would a great and healthy eating plan that would help me lose if I stuck with it, but would tell myself I could have one cheat meal a week...and it would quickly turn into more than that even though I couldn't see that. So for me I knew I had to go no cheat meals. No cheat snacks. Now that I'm stabilizing, once I hit maintenance I'll be able to see how often I can have a meal that's on the less healthy side...and that is going to vary with everyone.

NotaFatBride
03-08-2012, 04:45 AM
Thanks for the workout recommendations. I will definitely try them out.

I reward with food but I also emotional eat so I need to be careful to separate the two. For instance, just because I had a stressful week that does not mean that I can order a pizza and go to town. BUT if I know I have an event like a holiday or a wedding coming up where I can make a rational decision to eat off plan it helps keep me motivated. I try to limit the OP moments to once a month or less.

Today I went off plan. I was an emotional eater. My 6 mos little one didn't gain any weight between his 4 mos check up to now. It has me all stressed out. Plus he is teething, my house is a wreck, I think my husband has PMS, and the sky is falling. Okay overly dramatic but that's how I felt this morning. After a long night up with the kiddo and then an early morning my husband asked if I wanted drive thru breakfast. My emotional eating won on that account. I limited myself to one small sandwich and water so that was good. Then later in the day friends asked me to coffee. We were all coworkers who got laid off together. They were going on about all of the opportunities they were pursuing and how former colleagues were recommending them for jobs etc... I have been wait listed for a masters program and didn't tell anyone because I was expecting to be accepted so I am embarrassed. Now i have yo wait to see if i can get in through the waitlist. I feel a bit like my life is in a holding pattern. It upset me that I wasn't getting all if these job recommendations and made me feel like I wasn't as valued as others. I decided to emotional eat again. Mexican food. Tomorrow is another day. Sorry for the rant.

nwcgina
03-08-2012, 09:35 AM
susie-I totally get the emotional eating. Sounds like you have a lot of things yesterday to trigger it...and number one for me is always sleep. When the kids have been up or I'm stressed about their health, I want to eat. Because I've been good about staying on plan at least now when I eat emotionally it has been a piece of melba toast or cheese:) I find a diet soda sometimes gets me through...and just reminding myself that food doesn't fix the problem. That's my biggest fear now that I'm stabilizing and soon on to maintenace...that my emotional food monster will rear it's head. Hoping I've learned some things along the way. Like you said, today is a new day!! And I like what you said about separating treat meals from emotional justification. That's what I was never good at so that's why I haven't had treat meals (I like to call them treat instead of cheat...cheating gives food a "bad" connotation, whereas a treat recognizes that all food can be okay in the right amounts and it is planned whereas a "cheat" I may be more likely to get a pizza on the whim of a hard day).

JenB72
03-08-2012, 10:18 AM
Thanks for the advice and I know y'all are right. The way I quit smoking was to promise myself a cigarette after I had quit a week, and when I got there I didn't want one - then a month, a year , etc. finally it was in 3 years after I finish the bar exam I will have a drink and one glorious cigarette. I didn't want one. I guess when I think the option is off the table I tend to panic and backslide. Of I keep it my head that I can have it on special circumstances, I will work harder for it. I can't promise I won't partake. But that big plate of chicken tacos and black beans helps me get through the grilled chicken salads and cottage cheese.

But gracious I don't know!!! I guess we will see.

Katy, maybe this will help. You can still do Mexican and stay OP. Here's what my Restaurant Guide I received from my MRC center says about Mexican Food and eating out.

Mexican restaurants offer grilled chicken, steak, and shrimp. Order your meat with a side of grilled vegetables or a salad. At dinner, a small side of black beans can be substituted for your bread. When ordering salads omit the fried tortilla shell. In general, you want to avoid: sour cream, salsa, guacamole, rice, olives, and chips.

Example: Grilled chicken salad: add tomatoes; leave off anything not on program. At dinner, add black beans.

Believe me, I'm the queen of chips and it's no fun not eating them. Love, love, love them! But they also helped to land me at 220 pounds. :yikes:

Just remember, when you cheat, it interrupts the fat burn that you are in when you are OP. Not to mention, and these were 2 big things for me and I had to learn them the hard way: 1) it ends up taking much longer to get to goal. Every time you cheat, it takes about 3 days to get your body back into fat burning mode...and 2) all those cheats and 3 day delays to get back into fat burning mode end up costing you money in extra program time to get to your goal. In today's economy, that's a big deal to some people.

Good luck and I hope this helps some. You CAN do this!!! :)

patzi
03-08-2012, 11:44 AM
Triplemom8

If you are getting munchies, tell center, they will adjust your diet so this does not happen..I have had cravings during my weight loss challenge, and center always restructured my diet and it worked. Bring in your journal to them.

I understand each person has their way of doing this diet, but I keep saying, if you make a habit of cheating while losing weight, it may work for you, but you will have a heck of a time when you hit maintenance.. I have two friends now, that made MRC their own diet, and cheated when they wanted, and they have both failed maintenance.They lost weight very slowly due to cheating, but it backfired. By staying on program, it disciplines you of what got you to the program in the first place.. However, if one feels that they want to cheat, and it is good for them, well, then that is their choice, and that is great..Each person is different. But I am just stating from what I have seen with friends and people weighing in at the center.. I have been told over and over again by consultant, you can get away with cheatng while on program at times, but it will catch up to you on maintenance as you have lost the course of bad habits. Hope this makes sense and hope this will make some make better choices.. Please don't think I am telling anyone what is right and what is wrong, as I am not, just giving you my opinion, which may not work for you. Just don't want any newcomers to get the wrong idea of it is ok to cheat, as aMRC says it is not, but no one is a poster child for MRC, so it is a personal decision how one does this program. It is not easy, I will be the first one to tell you this, but it is sooooo worth it.


Another suggestion on a restaurant ... Call before going and tell them you are on special diet and ask them what they can do for you.. I have done this over and over again.. I have never stopped myself from going to a restaurant, just made best choices I could.

I am worried about Cani.. She had so much on her plate and was doing so well on her diet.. Hope she is ok.

I am so reluctant to send this message, but I will send it anyway.

Patzi

patzi
03-08-2012, 12:15 PM
Baked oatmeal... maintenance recipe

Tami, I know you liked this recipe I posted, wanted to let you know what I used in this last batch made last night

Mashed banana
blueberries
just a few fresh raspberries to give it some nice color
Anise spice
almond extract
chopped walnuts

It was very good.

Patzi

Tamikl
03-08-2012, 12:19 PM
I think the 3 day setback would all depend on what you choose to eat during an off program "treat." I still lost weight each week...never gained while OP.

I agree that my losses weren't fast...1-2lbs per week rather than 3-5lbs...making my progress a bit slower, but worth it to me in the long run because I didn't give up from being soooo structured 24/7.

Again, it is individual...and the cost of additional weeks isn't fun....but I never had to buy more, either. There are many opportunities to receive free weeks OP throughout your journey, so take advantage of those! You can always "bank" the weeks you don't use and add them to Maintenance later!!

I did do things different sometimes...we "tweeked" my personal program to work for Tami...and it did work. I have lost 52lbs. and couldn't be more happy about that. Just like you go to your counselor for guidance on what to do when you are hungry OP...not everyone is hungry OP...that guidance would be unique for you, and that is OK. The goal is to make this program work for everyone and quites simply, we are all different.

A "real" lifestyle change for me that I can wrap my arms around is one that allows me to live a bit and be human at times. Pizza isn't out of my menu options, but it isn't something I eat everyday.

I do feel a little bit like I am defending myself here...and certainly don't need to. I just read these posts from some that sound a lot like where I have been and need them to know that this program isn't black or white. They do work with individual clients, which is what makes MRC a success. Good luck!

Thank you for the recipe, Patzi! I LOVE it!!

Hang in there ladies...work the program, because it does work!

MrsKatydid
03-08-2012, 01:22 PM
Jen and Patzi, I know y'all are right - believe me I do. Its ridiculously sad that I am this addicted to food, but if I think that I won't have chips until June, I may kind of freak. ;). Sad but true. Anyway. I am hoping that I am strong enough when it comes to it that I will be resolved to stay op. but for me of I take it out of my head at this point I may just quit.
I'm sorry to have started all this controversy. I just want some chips people! Hee hee:o

Galadreal
03-08-2012, 01:52 PM
Jen and Patzi, I know y'all are right - believe me I do. Its ridiculously sad that I am this addicted to food, but if I think that I won't have chips until June, I may kind of freak. ;). Sad but true. Anyway. I am hoping that I am strong enough when it comes to it that I will be resolved to stay op. but for me of I take it out of my head at this point I may just quit.
I'm sorry to have started all this controversy. I just want some chips people! Hee hee:o

You just need to think of alternatives. Find your 40-50 calorie tortilla, or chop an 80-100 calorie one in half. cut into chip sized bits, brush with olive oil and bake until crispy. Then make some tiny nachoes with ground turkey, taco seasoning, a little cheese, and go nuts on the fresh veggies like lettuce and tomato.

There are alternatives, you just have to thing creatively.

And if you have to have a chip, as in "I will absolutely, posotively drop dead without this chip" just realize there will be consequences and try to limit yourself. Say, ok, I can have that chip, heck, I can have 3 or 4 chips, but try to look for better options (baked lays anyone?). Just don't eat out of the bag and realize it will slow you down.

Everything works different for different people. Honestly my first week I cheated, but since the weight has started comming off this well I have no desire to. I want to hurry it up and leave so that I can relax and not have to eat so much meat. Do what you can, and do what works for you. If it takes you a bit longer becuase you have to have a chip once a week or so, that is fine. You have to be flexible or you will never make it through.

JenB72
03-08-2012, 02:21 PM
You just need to think of alternatives. Find your 40-50 calorie tortilla, or chop an 80-100 calorie one in half. cut into chip sized bits, brush with olive oil and bake until crispy. Then make some tiny nachoes with ground turkey, taco seasoning, a little cheese, and go nuts on the fresh veggies like lettuce and tomato.

Another good one that my center was suggested was similar. I would cut the toritilla into chip sizes, spray with 0 calorie butter, and then sprinkle a packet of Splenda and Cinnamon on it. Bake and you have a great dessert! :)


WI at lunch and another 1/2 pound officially bites the dust. 2 pounds to go!!!!

sarabeanne
03-08-2012, 02:52 PM
I love all the ideas to feed those cravings without going off plan... I am going to have to try that tortilla with cinnamon Jenn!!
A couple of thoughts have come up while I read these wonderful threads about rewards. We are a society that rewards and celebrates using food, so much so that I have found myself (in the past) thinking "I have been watching what I eat and doing so well, I DESERVE to have that ____ (fill in the blank, often ice cream or Italian food.) This time around I am trying really hard to find non-food rewards. I lost 10lbs, I got a massage... 20lbs and I am getting a pedicure... goal weight and I get a new wardrobe for my trip to Hawaii... while food costs less monetarily, having a bigger reward in mind makes it all the more celebratory when I hit my goal. My previous attempts at losing the weight haven’t lasted so long without a cheat, I don’t know if it is my mindset this time, or if it is because I have had it with making excuses. I know that we are all different and if others have found rewards that are working for them that is great… I just wanted to share what has worked for me so far.
Also, I know there are a lot of ideas using Splenda… anyone use Truvia? I like it better but don’t know what the official MRC line on it is.

Galadreal
03-08-2012, 03:07 PM
I use truvia, and my center basically said to use whatever artificial sweetener I want. However, I am not as yet sure how it effect most of the recipies. I just know it makes great cinnamon toast in the mornings :D

Fluffy in Florida
03-08-2012, 04:33 PM
OH I love the chips too. I take a tortilla cut it up and then sprinkle the dry ranch seasoning on it. Bake until done. mmmmm mmmmmm good.

NotaFatBride
03-08-2012, 05:29 PM
I use my mandolin slicer to thinly slice up an apple. I sprinkle each slice with a little splenda and cin. I bake them for an hour at a low temp. It makes crispy sweet apple chips. Sooo good! I also do this with zucchini and then dip them in cottage cheese blended with ranch seasoning. Those are my favorite snack type foods.

nwcgina
03-08-2012, 05:50 PM
I've even done the apples with the splenda & cinn in the micro if I'm in a rush and they are good (more of a baked apple). For Thanksgiving to stay OP I did a bunch of them in a crockpot (peeled, sliced apples) with a little water and cinnamon and splenda so I knew I'd have "dessert"...they were a hit with everyone (I almost didn't get any!)

patzi
03-08-2012, 07:02 PM
I've even done the apples with the splenda & cinn in the micro if I'm in a rush and they are good (more of a baked apple). For Thanksgiving to stay OP I did a bunch of them in a crockpot (peeled, sliced apples) with a little water and cinnamon and splenda so I knew I'd have "dessert"...they were a hit with everyone (I almost didn't get any!)



This sounds wonderful.. How long did you leave in crockpot..Did you use the ground cinnamon spice or a cinnamon stick? I will definately try this.
Patzi

patzi
03-08-2012, 07:06 PM
Jen...
I have been with you on this journey, and I am so excited for you.. Two pounds to go how exciting.. You must be elated over this.. You deserve an applause...

Patzi

nwcgina
03-08-2012, 08:18 PM
I used ground cinnamon, mixed it with splenda. I didn't write down how much I did, it would be to your liking (some recipes called for nutmeg). I peeled and cut them, filled the crockpot with them, I think I cooked them 3-4 hours on low. Some recipes call for butter or apple cider on them, but I just did the apples with the splenda and cinnamon (1 tsp-ish of ground cinnamon, amount of splenda depends on the sweetness of the apple and if you want tart or sweet).

camaswa
03-08-2012, 08:47 PM
Or maybe question is actually WHO exactly am I cheating? Just "food" for thought...

camaswa
03-08-2012, 08:58 PM
I use my mandolin slicer to thinly slice up an apple. I sprinkle each slice with a little splenda and cin. I bake them for an hour at a low temp. It makes crispy sweet apple chips. Sooo good! I also do this with zucchini and then dip them in cottage cheese blended with ranch seasoning. Those are my favorite snack type foods.
Susie, I tried this with zucchini and the slices were so thin they stuck to rhe baking pan. Disaster. Did you oil it first? Or brush oil on the chips? And how hot was the oven? I really wanted this to work!

fatburningmama
03-08-2012, 11:10 PM
the apple slices with cinnamon and sweetner sound good. I will have to try those this weekend.
I won a bottle of the Internal Cleanser as a prize item at my center -- has anyone used this supplemental? if so, have any side effects from it?

MrsKatydid
03-08-2012, 11:57 PM
How about yellow squash?? I am a salty girl - don't really crave sweets if they are not around.
Do y'all use the Lavash bread?

Fluffy in Florida
03-09-2012, 12:44 AM
WI tonight and down 3.5lbs. It was a pleasant surprise after holding 1.5 lbs last week in water weight.

JenB72
03-09-2012, 09:49 AM
Jen...
I have been with you on this journey, and I am so excited for you.. Two pounds to go how exciting.. You must be elated over this.. You deserve an applause...

Patzi

Thanks, Patzi! I'm beyond excited about being 2 pounds from goal and I'm also in a bit of a catch-22 this weekend. I'm actually running a 15K race tomorrow (9.3 miles). It was one of those things I needed to do to feel like my old self again (pre-married, pre-pregnancy, pre-mommy) and prove I can do this. I'm not going for speed or personal best times or anything like that. I just need to say I can still do this. I am incredibly excited, however, my body needs fuel to do this. Unfortunately, that fuel for running is usually straight up carbs. I did one race while on program and didn't eat any carbs before and it was a disaster of a race. So, I had a long discussion with my counselors yesterday and we came up with a plan (they are even in the race and gave me one of their center's shirts so we can all match. :D) They are supportive of eating some carbs ahead of time as this is "race fuel" as opposed to me eating carbs just for the sake of it and there being no legit purpose for it other than I felt like it. Make sense? Besides, I didn't come all this way, get two pounds from goal, just to gain weight after running a 15K. ;)


WI tonight and down 3.5lbs. It was a pleasant surprise after holding 1.5 lbs last week in water weight.
Congrats, FIF!!! That's an awesome number!!!!!!!


I won a bottle of the Internal Cleanser as a prize item at my center -- has anyone used this supplemental? if so, have any side effects from it? Congrats! I have tried that one in the past. Side effects...well...it does what it's supposed to do. ;)

Galadreal
03-09-2012, 10:53 AM
Kind of frustrated today. After 1 week on conditioning and 2 weeks on program, I am down 8 pounds of fat (I gaine 1.5 pounds of water weight, thank you hormones) and 4.75 inches. I know it is not bad, but it just feels so slow. I mean I officially started the plan (after preconditioning) on the 25th of last month. But I actually lost more in preconditioning that I am now. I have only been losing 1-1.5 pounds at each weigh in. And I know that is twice a week, but it is still crazy slow. I know part of it is the PCOS, but I feel like I am flogging myself to death at the gym (once again I know that will pass when I am not so hormonal), and not enjoying my food, and just generally frustrated with the whole situation. I know, this too shall pass, but this morning I am having a hard time not raiding the candy dishes placed all over my damned office.

Seriously, i like my job, but one of the problems with working in a large office with lots of other women is that there is chocolate just a few feet away at any given moment, and this morning I feel very...strained towards it.

patzi
03-09-2012, 11:28 AM
Jen...'
Are they having you eat a straight carb or a carb and protein together, and a did they suggest what kind of carb.. I do walks on occasion, and would love to know this..

Thanks
Patzi

JenB72
03-09-2012, 12:42 PM
Jen...'
Are they having you eat a straight carb or a carb and protein together, and a did they suggest what kind of carb.. I do walks on occasion, and would love to know this..

Thanks
Patzi

Carb and protein. For instance, my pre-race go-to breakfast is a small plain bagel with peanut butter and a banana. They even suggested bringing one of my Meal Replacement Bars to help with the protein side of things. As for the carbs for dinner, whole-grain or wheat pasta was their suggestion.

bigdog
03-09-2012, 01:26 PM
excellent recommendation for the workout video~~ thks,

If anyone needs a recommendation on a strength training video you can do at home I highly recommend Jackie WArner's Power Circuit (she's got a few, that's my favorite...along with the xtreme time saver). I've been doing the 40 minute full body workout 2x a week and seeing a huge difference. There's also a 15 minute full body that gets all the body parts (and probably the best place to start if you aren't used to strength training). There are also 15 minute sections for abs (killer), legs, and arms if you just want to focus on one area. I just got done with the 40 and I'm all sweaty and muscles shakey so I know I worked it:)[/QUOTE]

bigdog
03-09-2012, 01:33 PM
i love Miss Vicky's jalepeno chips and my DH buys them all the time. i measured out 40 cal. of the chips and had those for dinner in place of the 40 Cal. lite bread or melba toast. it was a small portion but satisfied my craving and i didn't eat the whole bag. did not gain that week either. not sure what the Center would say about that but it worked for me :-)
and what's funny about that is after i ate them, realized they were no big deal and actually prefered my garlic melba toast i usually eat w/ my salads

Jen and Patzi, I know y'all are right - believe me I do. Its ridiculously sad that I am this addicted to food, but if I think that I won't have chips until June, I may kind of freak. ;). Sad but true. Anyway. I am hoping that I am strong enough when it comes to it that I will be resolved to stay op. but for me of I take it out of my head at this point I may just quit.
I'm sorry to have started all this controversy. I just want some chips people! Hee hee:o

Tamikl
03-09-2012, 02:29 PM
On Diet Direct and want to order some of that "Nectar." I am debating between the Chocolate Truffle and the Fuzzy Navel??? Help please! Also, would this be considered a "creamy" protein drink all depending on the flavor?

patzi
03-09-2012, 04:13 PM
Carb and protein. For instance, my pre-race go-to breakfast is a small plain bagel with peanut butter and a banana. They even suggested bringing one of my Meal Replacement Bars to help with the protein side of things. As for the carbs for dinner, whole-grain or wheat pasta was their suggestion.

THanks Jen...
That is very helpful for me.

Patzi

camaswa
03-09-2012, 04:34 PM
On Diet Direct and want to order some of that "Nectar." I am debating between the Chocolate Truffle and the Fuzzy Navel??? Help please! Also, would this be considered a "creamy" protein drink all depending on the flavor?
Why don't you start with the single serving variety pack? Those containers are so huge I would hate it if I got one I didn't like. Just today I had 1/2 a package of strawberry mouse in Greek yogurt. I loved it! I do the same with the choc truffle- reminds me of chocolate cheesecake. If you are set on a big container, I do really like the chocolate truffle. Haven't tried the fuzzy navel yet, hoping that will taste like a dreamcicle with yourgrt.

There are 0 carbs, so I consider it a clear. You just have to use a little less if you only want protein at 15 g. I don't bother to do that math anymore, but then I haven't been breaking any records on the scales...

I am down 2.5 pounds today since my last visit to the center 2 weeks ago, however! Yay, relief! But we decided I'm not really ready to add anything more to my stabilization plan till next week. I'm going up and down too much.

ynapier
03-09-2012, 05:10 PM
Went to WI today and was only down .5 lbs. Pretty bummed about that but at least it was a loss. :( But on a better note I did get the new green menu. Since I'm below 200 now they have changed me to it. It looks good and I'm excited about the changes. I will probably be having corn tonight for supper. I miss corn. And I like the option of fruit with breakfast instead of a starch. Hopefully I will have a greater loss next WI which is on Tuesday.

Happy Friday everyone!

bigdog
03-09-2012, 05:39 PM
Why don't you start with the single serving variety pack? Those containers are so huge I would hate it if I got one I didn't like. Just today I had 1/2 a package of strawberry mouse in Greek yogurt. I loved it! I do the same with the choc truffle- reminds me of chocolate cheesecake. If you are set on a big container, I do really like the chocolate truffle. Haven't tried the fuzzy navel yet, hoping that will taste like a dreamcicle with yourgrt.

There are 0 carbs, so I consider it a clear. You just have to use a little less if you only want protein at 15 g. I don't bother to do that math anymore, but then I haven't been breaking any records on the scales...

I am down 2.5 pounds today since my last visit to the center 2 weeks ago, however! Yay, relief! But we decided I'm not really ready to add anything more to my stabilization plan till next week. I'm going up and down too much.

i have to say i am addicted to the Chocolate Truffle and never get tired of it. i did get a little tired of the orange and the lemonade. next time i order, i'll get the variety pack so i can try other flavors. the strawberry sounds good! and of course the Chocolate Truffle. it's so yummy! i like it w/ greek yogurt. i like it w/ frozen raspberries or any fruit. good w/ left over coffee. good w/ diet Dr. Pepper. good w/ diet sprite. i even threw a few nuts in there one time and blended it up...chocolate peanut butter! but i'm a chocoholic for sure so have to have chocolate each and every day :-) i count it as a HNS...0 carbs! 0 sugar!
Camaswa, congrats on losing 2.5 more pounds WOO HOO!!!! go girl!

Galadreal
03-09-2012, 05:50 PM
Why don't you start with the single serving variety pack? Those containers are so huge I would hate it if I got one I didn't like. Just today I had 1/2 a package of strawberry mouse in Greek yogurt. I loved it! I do the same with the choc truffle- reminds me of chocolate cheesecake. If you are set on a big container, I do really like the chocolate truffle. Haven't tried the fuzzy navel yet, hoping that will taste like a dreamcicle with yourgrt.

There are 0 carbs, so I consider it a clear. You just have to use a little less if you only want protein at 15 g. I don't bother to do that math anymore, but then I haven't been breaking any records on the scales...

I am down 2.5 pounds today since my last visit to the center 2 weeks ago, however! Yay, relief! But we decided I'm not really ready to add anything more to my stabilization plan till next week. I'm going up and down too much.

I had never heard of dietdirect before, but I checked them out today after I read some of these posts. I am jsut curious on what the difference is between what they have and what is at my center. Obdviously they have more flavor choices, but is it just another name brand for the same things otherwise?

sarabeanne
03-09-2012, 06:51 PM
Bummed today. WI and I was up .5. Since I have been following my plan neurotically, it is being chalked up to the stress and emotions of the week. My period is also starting this weekend, I haven't had a cycle OP yet so I am wondering how much that is playing a role. Trying to keep my head up but after all week of wanting to seek comfort in food but making good chioces instead I am kind of feeling why the **** didn't I just give in? Ugh, sorry for the rant, just really bummed... :(

patzi
03-09-2012, 10:17 PM
Camaswa...
Thanks for bringing up the variety pack of the Syntrax product.. I have never tried it, and my main concern is the allergic reaction to whey.. Sometimes I can tolerate it, sometimes not, so this is a good way to try it..
Congrats to the weight loss.. Good idea to go easy on stabilization if you are not steady with the up and down.. It will all come together soon for you.If I can ever be of help to you,please ask..

Patzi

JenB72
03-09-2012, 10:52 PM
Wish me luck, ladies! Running a 15K in the morning. Sure couldn't have done that a year ago. :woohoo:

Fluffy in Florida
03-10-2012, 08:59 AM
This week has been great. Took yesterday off so I could go get my new tattoo and then went to a great hockey game. On top of the weight lss I couldn't have ask for a better start to the weekend. Hope you all are enjoying yours too!

Went to WI today and was only down .5 lbs. Pretty bummed about that but at least it was a loss. :( But on a better note I did get the new green menu. Since I'm below 200 now they have changed me to it. It looks good and I'm excited about the changes. I will probably be having corn tonight for supper. I miss corn. And I like the option of fruit with breakfast instead of a starch. Hopefully I will have a greater loss next WI which is on Tuesday.

Happy Friday everyone!

Congrats on being under the 200 mark, feels great doesn't it? I had corn the other night for the first time and I savored it.

JenB. Good luck on your race!

Galadreal. 2-3 lbs per week is awesome. Congrats.

Sara. Did you get all your water in? I noticed last week I had a 1.5 lb gain and after looking at what I ate I found I was coming up short on my water. My food was all good just really short on water. Also did you get all you hsn? That has been a culprit for me too. Good luck.

Congrats to the rest of the losers! Good luck this week everybody.

mizkisty
03-10-2012, 10:16 AM
Please email me all mrc menu to kristlynjohnson at gmail dot com

camaswa
03-10-2012, 02:41 PM
i have to say i am addicted to the Chocolate Truffle and never get tired of it. i did get a little tired of the orange and the lemonade. next time i order, i'll get the variety pack so i can try other flavors. the strawberry sounds good! and of course the Chocolate Truffle. it's so yummy! i like it w/ greek yogurt. i like it w/ frozen raspberries or any fruit. good w/ left over coffee. good w/ diet Dr. Pepper. good w/ diet sprite. i even threw a few nuts in there one time and blended it up...chocolate peanut butter! but i'm a chocoholic for sure so have to have chocolate each and every day :-) i count it as a HNS...0 carbs! 0 sugar!
Camaswa, congrats on losing 2.5 more pounds WOO HOO!!!! go girl!
haha- thanks for the edit!!! And you know we all owe our love of Choc. truffle to YOU! I never get tired of it either. today I had Carribean something or other with my yogurt. Ok, but not fab. Kind of a fake pineapple taste. would definitely not order a giant tub of that one.

camaswa
03-10-2012, 02:48 PM
I had never heard of dietdirect before, but I checked them out today after I read some of these posts. I am jsut curious on what the difference is between what they have and what is at my center. Obdviously they have more flavor choices, but is it just another name brand for the same things otherwise?
Well, you know that MRC doesn't actually formulate or manufacture anything, they just private label stuff from other manufacturers. So if you really look, you can find pretty much every HNS and supplement somewhere else and sometimes cheaper. Or you can find different flavors of stuff with the same nutritional content. For people who are doing the program on their own or want to keep using the products on maintenance, Diet Direct is a good source. As long as you are enrolled with a center, you do have to buy from them, but I get a few extras now and then for fun and variety. Watch out for all the bars - too good! Too much like candy bars for me to resist.

camaswa
03-10-2012, 02:53 PM
Camaswa...
Thanks for bringing up the variety pack of the Syntrax product.. I have never tried it, and my main concern is the allergic reaction to whey.. Sometimes I can tolerate it, sometimes not, so this is a good way to try it..
Congrats to the weight loss.. Good idea to go easy on stabilization if you are not steady with the up and down.. It will all come together soon for you.If I can ever be of help to you,please ask..

Patzi
Thank you! I'm feeling like I am getting there. And yes, those products ARE whey. Here's another idea: if there is a Vitamin Shoppe in your area, they do seel the vanilla and chocolate truffle in the single servings. You could just get one or two. My guess is there may be other retail outlets that sell the brand as well. I just happened to see it at that place, which is right across the street from my office. I keep a big jar of the Choc. Truffle under my desk and just dip into it!

faerychic
03-10-2012, 06:36 PM
176 and holding....................for 3 weeks now! I have had my issues with cheats and staying OP, but I committed to staying OP 3 weeks ago and have not dropped a pound since :mad: I have lost 16 pounds and have another 16 to go to be at my goal weight. I guess the good news though is that I have lost 27 inches (and I am getting my waist back LOL!)

What has been your longest plateau? and was there something you did to break it? My counselor doesn't seem too concerned - she thinks I will have a large drop in weight soon. I did start exercising this week so she thinks I may be holding on to some water weight.

Today is a beautiful day here in colorful Colorado.....hope you are all enjoying your weekend :sunny:

nwcgina
03-10-2012, 09:43 PM
Jen-how was the run? Was just a pre-race carb/protein meal enough? I know with runners I work with, for a race that long they would be adding in some more carbs for 3-4 days prior to build up their glycogen stores so they would have plenty of fuel. On metabalance I get a few more carbs and I can run about 3 miles without fatigue, but then I do notice a hunger spike the next day. That is the biggest thing I will need to play around with once I hit maintenance, having the right amount of carbs for longer runs/bikes/swims (pretty sure I'm going to do a tri at the end of summer).

faerychic-My longest plateu was in the 2-3 week range. Lots of water helped me break it...and just recognizing that my cycle plays a huge role and when I exercise I do hold water weight...but the tradeoff in how I feel and the change in my body composition are worth it (strength training has a bigger impact than cardio for me).

Went away with DH for an overnight trip...early anniversary celebration. I'm one week into metabalance stabilization (which is only 3 weeks) and have lost 2 lbs on stabilization. Friday night we planned on eating at the hotel "happy hour" (they had salad and stuff for "nachos", among other things). I knew I could make a big taco salad. Well, for the first time since Nov 1, I ate off plan. I had purposely not eaten any of my starches and one of my fruits earlier in the day, but I still had even more starch than I should have. And my biggest fear has been that once I had one of those "all out" meals, that's the way I'd want to eat all the time again. But I didn't. Today I woke up, kicked my own butt on the treadmill, and got right back to eating on plan. And my body didn't even want to go back to binging. (It was even somewhat happy I let it have a few more calories). It makes me feel so good to know that my body loves eating the healthy food and my habits have me loving salad and fish and broccoli, but also that I'm going to be able to handle the occasional, PLANNED treat meal without reverting back to consistent bad habits. Not sure if that made sense.

patzi
03-11-2012, 09:43 AM
Went away with DH for an overnight trip...early anniversary celebration. I'm one week into metabalance stabilization (which is only 3 weeks) and have lost 2 lbs on stabilization. Friday night we planned on eating at the hotel "happy hour" (they had salad and stuff for "nachos", among other things). I knew I could make a big taco salad. Well, for the first time since Nov 1, I ate off plan. I had purposely not eaten any of my starches and one of my fruits earlier in the day, but I still had even more starch than I should have. And my biggest fear has been that once I had one of those "all out" meals, that's the way I'd want to eat all the time again. But I didn't. Today I woke up, kicked my own butt on the treadmill, and got right back to eating on plan. And my body didn't even want to go back to binging. (It was even somewhat happy I let it have a few more calories). It makes me feel so good to know that my body loves eating the healthy food and my habits have me loving salad and fish and broccoli, but also that I'm going to be able to handle the occasional, PLANNED treat meal without reverting back to consistent bad habits. Not sure if that made sense.[/QUOTE]

Nwcgina.....

You will be just fine, and this makes sense indeed. You made a choice , it has showed you the discipline you have learned while on MRC and you willl handle the occasional planned treat meal and will not revert back. I am so happy for you that you have come this far and with great determination and understanding of your body, how it works and what to do when you have a meal other than your usual way of eating.. The key for maintenance is you can eat anything you want, as long as it does not spiral out of control and
you revert back to consistent bad habits and feel guilty about what you ate.
Thanks for sharing this with the group..

Patzi

camaswa
03-12-2012, 01:32 PM
Jen-how was the run? Was just a pre-race carb/protein meal enough? I know with runners I work with, for a race that long they would be adding in some more carbs for 3-4 days prior to build up their glycogen stores so they would have plenty of fuel. On metabalance I get a few more carbs and I can run about 3 miles without fatigue, but then I do notice a hunger spike the next day. That is the biggest thing I will need to play around with once I hit maintenance, having the right amount of carbs for longer runs/bikes/swims (pretty sure I'm going to do a tri at the end of summer).

faerychic-My longest plateu was in the 2-3 week range. Lots of water helped me break it...and just recognizing that my cycle plays a huge role and when I exercise I do hold water weight...but the tradeoff in how I feel and the change in my body composition are worth it (strength training has a bigger impact than cardio for me).

Went away with DH for an overnight trip...early anniversary celebration. I'm one week into metabalance stabilization (which is only 3 weeks) and have lost 2 lbs on stabilization. Friday night we planned on eating at the hotel "happy hour" (they had salad and stuff for "nachos", among other things). I knew I could make a big taco salad. Well, for the first time since Nov 1, I ate off plan. I had purposely not eaten any of my starches and one of my fruits earlier in the day, but I still had even more starch than I should have. And my biggest fear has been that once I had one of those "all out" meals, that's the way I'd want to eat all the time again. But I didn't. Today I woke up, kicked my own butt on the treadmill, and got right back to eating on plan. And my body didn't even want to go back to binging. (It was even somewhat happy I let it have a few more calories). It makes me feel so good to know that my body loves eating the healthy food and my habits have me loving salad and fish and broccoli, but also that I'm going to be able to handle the occasional, PLANNED treat meal without reverting back to consistent bad habits. Not sure if that made sense.
Awesome! Totally echo Patzi's reply!

camaswa
03-12-2012, 01:50 PM
176 and holding....................for 3 weeks now! I have had my issues with cheats and staying OP, but I committed to staying OP 3 weeks ago and have not dropped a pound since :mad: I have lost 16 pounds and have another 16 to go to be at my goal weight. I guess the good news though is that I have lost 27 inches (and I am getting my waist back LOL!)

What has been your longest plateau? and was there something you did to break it? My counselor doesn't seem too concerned - she thinks I will have a large drop in weight soon. I did start exercising this week so she thinks I may be holding on to some water weight.

Today is a beautiful day here in colorful Colorado.....hope you are all enjoying your weekend :sunny:
How frustrating! Keep drinking water and dont give up. If you ever find yourself thinking why bother, remember that if you serously went off plan now, you would most surely gain. There are worse things that staying the same. :) You really will lose it soon.

patzi
03-12-2012, 02:35 PM
Originally Posted by faerychic

176 and holding....................for 3 weeks now! I have had my issues with cheats and staying OP, but I committed to staying OP 3 weeks ago and have not dropped a pound since I have lost 16 pounds and have another 16 to go to be at my goal weight. I guess the good news though is that I have lost 27 inches (and I am getting my waist back LOL!)

What has been your longest plateau? and was there something you did to break it? My counselor doesn't seem too concerned - she thinks I will have a large drop in weight soon. I did start exercising this week so she thinks I may be holding on to some water weight.

Faerychic...

My longest plateau was two full weeks, and when I lost the weight it was .2 pounds. Take your journal into your consultant and tell her you want her to find out why you are not losing the weight. She may not be concerned, but it is her duty to find out what the problem is if you are 100% OP. Many times, you lose inches and no weight, but it is three weeks, so have them give your weight loss a push by something..I always insisted they find out what the problem was and to find a remedy for it. However, you have lost the inches, so that is a good amount of inches to lose.. Hang in there, it will come off, if you stay OP, it really will. I am at maintenance and have had non weight loss weeks, or weeks where I lost a tiny amount, but it all works out, I promise.. It is all worth it. If you are on the new Meta Slim green menu, you may want to go back to the original one, as there are some that are not losing weight on the new one. Just a suggestion, as each one is different.. If there is anything I can do for you please ask.

I noticed in paper they are advertising $49.00 for 4 weeks in case anyone needs additional weeks..

Hope everyone has a great day.

Patzi

JenB72
03-12-2012, 03:42 PM
Jen-how was the run? Was just a pre-race carb/protein meal enough? I know with runners I work with, for a race that long they would be adding in some more carbs for 3-4 days prior to build up their glycogen stores so they would have plenty of fuel. On metabalance I get a few more carbs and I can run about 3 miles without fatigue, but then I do notice a hunger spike the next day. That is the biggest thing I will need to play around with once I hit maintenance, having the right amount of carbs for longer runs/bikes/swims (pretty sure I'm going to do a tri at the end of summer).

The run was fun, although, I am hurting a bit today. I actually got emotional after it was over. I couldn't have run that race a year ago. It was my 6th time doing that particular one but it is the one I am most proud of and the one that meant the most to me. :)

In hindsight, not enough carbo loading which is funny to say given the meal plan we are on. I think I've been "deprived" of carbs for so long that 2 nights worth of carbs, and the morning of, just wasn't enough. By the end, I was sluggish and tired (not to mention cramping toes, first time that's ever happened), but the finish line being in sight kept me going. Anyway, I was extremely hungry afterwards. I had grilled chicken salads for lunch and dinner, but threw in some extra carbs just to settle my stomach. That was my other issue. I had an upset stomach after it was over. At least it wasn't during. :p That seems to have finally calmed down today now that I'm back OP. Like you, it's something I'm going to have to play around with during maintenance to find a plan that works for me on longer runs. I can run a couple of miles at lunch and I'm fine. It's the longer runs that will take some learning on how to handle.

Galadreal
03-12-2012, 09:33 PM
Lost another 2 pounds today at weigh in, though I am pretty sure at least 1 of those was water weight. Still, I will take it. Got to sign the 10 pound board. Came home and did a new "slim down" dvd from the bellytwins and it kicked my booty so hard. Ahh, workout video's, you never fail to put me in my place.

Now to go take a shower while hubby makes dinner, Lemon Chicken, tasty. I feel so stinky.

sarabeanne
03-12-2012, 10:22 PM
Tonight will be my first attempt at cooking while on this program. A little nervous but have to branch away from just doing a protien, veggie and fruit with no thought to making it a meal. Wish me luck :)

nwcgina
03-12-2012, 10:52 PM
Jen-I'm with you that I know it will take some time to figure out about how much I should be eating on long run/hard workout days, and even leading up to those workouts. But it's a fun place to be. And I just tell myself that one of the keys to keeping it off will be my love of exercise. I decided to stabilize before I hit the low end of my goal because I really need to start doing more to be ready for the warrior dash in june and then something longer the end of summer.

JenB72
03-13-2012, 09:35 AM
Jen-I'm with you that I know it will take some time to figure out about how much I should be eating on long run/hard workout days, and even leading up to those workouts. But it's a fun place to be. And I just tell myself that one of the keys to keeping it off will be my love of exercise. I decided to stabilize before I hit the low end of my goal because I really need to start doing more to be ready for the warrior dash in june and then something longer the end of summer.

Gina, I found a couple of good articles on Runner's World. One deals with nutrition and the other is for GI issues. I figure it's a start on learning what to do.

Nutrition: http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-242-301--6686-F,00.html

GI Issues: http://www.runnersworld.com/article/1,7120,s6-242-301--10005-0,00.html

I must say, I'm loving this lifestyle change. I think I've got my husband hooked on road races now, but with his schedule, he's only off every third Saturday so we'd have to find ones that fit his schedule. Now that he's done a 15K, he really wants to do a 5K since he could go much faster and wouldn't have to hold back and pace himself for a longer run. The best part, we'll be doing this as a family and setting a great example for our munchkin. :)

Galadreal
03-13-2012, 10:06 AM
Tonight will be my first attempt at cooking while on this program. A little nervous but have to branch away from just doing a protien, veggie and fruit with no thought to making it a meal. Wish me luck :)

Good Luck!!

Galadreal
03-13-2012, 10:15 AM
Gina, I found a couple of good articles on Runner's World. One deals with nutrition and the other is for GI issues. I figure it's a start on learning what to do.

Nutrition: http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-242-301--6686-F,00.html

GI Issues: http://www.runnersworld.com/article/1,7120,s6-242-301--10005-0,00.html

I must say, I'm loving this lifestyle change. I think I've got my husband hooked on road races now, but with his schedule, he's only off every third Saturday so we'd have to find ones that fit his schedule. Now that he's done a 15K, he really wants to do a 5K since he could go much faster and wouldn't have to hold back and pace himself for a longer run. The best part, we'll be doing this as a family and setting a great example for our munchkin. :)

I admire you for this. I cannot run...ok, I can run, but I run like a duck, so I just don't do it. That and I have a hard time finding a bra that will be supportive enough that I don't have to cross my arms over my chest when I run.

My hubby and I go to the gym together, and he does my workout video's with me, but running together (if I did run) is kind of out of the question. The difference in stride lengths is too much (he is 6'6 and I am 5'4) and the few times we tried he kept waiting for me to make sure I was ok.

Very much congratulations on your race, and on doing so well with the big changes.

Tamikl
03-13-2012, 11:31 AM
Tonight will be my first attempt at cooking while on this program. A little nervous but have to branch away from just doing a protien, veggie and fruit with no thought to making it a meal. Wish me luck :)

Buy the MRC cookbook! It helped me so much in the beginning:) I wasn't real creative on my own. There are many fun recipes in it, and you will find a few you really like that will probably be a staple throughout your journey. Takes the guesswork out of what to eat everyday! Just a recommendation:)

Tamikl
03-13-2012, 11:37 AM
Hello ladies!

Hanging in there...I have had a good "Maintenance" week. But, at my last WI her and I discussed my gonig back on Green temporarily if I want to drop what I gained in Mexico....wow, that is HARD! Now that I have gotten used to all of my additions, I quickly forget just how strict Green was! I think I prefer the old Green menu over the new one...even though my center has told me to just throw away the old...no longer being used. Well, that would be crazy since it worked! LOL

I so admire those of you that run...I am not a runner. But, I am interested in the work out videos. That I have never tried...just cardio mainly at the Gym with my hubby. Haven't really got back into strength training, but probably should do that, too. "One day at a time," right?

Have a great day all!

JenB72
03-13-2012, 11:48 AM
I admire you for this. I cannot run...ok, I can run, but I run like a duck, so I just don't do it. That and I have a hard time finding a bra that will be supportive enough that I don't have to cross my arms over my chest when I run.

My hubby and I go to the gym together, and he does my workout video's with me, but running together (if I did run) is kind of out of the question. The difference in stride lengths is too much (he is 6'6 and I am 5'4) and the few times we tried he kept waiting for me to make sure I was ok.

Very much congratulations on your race, and on doing so well with the big changes.

I know what you mean about the stride lengths. My hubby is 6'2" and I'm 5'5". Next time, I prefer him to run ahead and leave me to my tunes. I tell him, unless you see the medics heading for me, I'm fine. ;)


I so admire those of you that run...I am not a runner. But, I am interested in the work out videos. That I have never tried...just cardio mainly at the Gym with my hubby. Haven't really got back into strength training, but probably should do that, too. "One day at a time," right?

That's right! You're moving and that's what counts. Whether it's running, being on an elliptical, walking, whatever...all that matters is just doing something. Keep up the great work! :cheer:

selway
03-13-2012, 12:23 PM
HI, I just found this website/forum and joined. I lost 80 lbs about three years ago with MRC and unfortunately gained it all back and more. I have tried following the menus at home but am thinking of calling the center and rejoining. I had a terrible customer service experience with my old center and am hoping that I can transfer to a new one. I am an at home client, so it doesn't really matter where it ships from, but sometimes the rejoin fee is less than the original fee (if they let me transfer that....).

Anyway, just wanted to tell you all that I have been reading all of your posts for inspiration and motivation. Thank you!!

patzi
03-13-2012, 12:50 PM
I had maintenance weigh in this week and gained 1/2 pound, putting me 4 1/2 pound under goal. Reason for the weight gain is I am experimenting again.. I decided to try and have a sandwich which means two pieces of bread or one of those think small pitas 3 x a week, along with the carb of the baked oatmeal which I have every day.Well, I gained on it, so will try two sandwiches a week to see how I do or forget it completely.. I downsized the baked oatmeal I have every afternoon with my iced coffee, and I enjoy that so, so will figure out what I want to do here. I will go on the old green menu for a couple of days to get the weight off.With me it could take forever to get the 1/2 pound off.

Galadreal... Congrats on your weight loss.

Tami.. Any time I gain weight or eat out or away for 2-3 days, I immediately go back to the old green menu to get weight off. And when scale is good, I go back to maintenance.. I decided to go back to the old green one, as some are having a problem losing on the new one and I know the old one works just fine.

Wishing everyone a wonderful day.
Patzi

ynapier
03-13-2012, 04:54 PM
I had WI today and was down 1.5. I was excited about that since I hadn't had much of a loss last time. I am enjoying the new green menu but feel like I'm cheating when I eat something that was not allowed before. I had fruit this morning with cottage cheese. It was really good but felt like I was doing something wrong. I had corn the other night for supper and enjoyed that. I like veggies more than carbs anyway. I guess I have to look at peas and corn as carbs instead of veggies now though. That's going to take some getting used to but 1/4 cup was enough to satasify me so that's good.

I'm having issues making the ticker update. I think it's me work computer and not this site. I will try to update it at home but until then I will just update on the profile.

Jen - congratulations on the race. I have never been a runner but do enjoy the gazelle. It's a major stress reliever for me and I look foward to using it.

lovetofishandrun
03-13-2012, 08:16 PM
Galadreal - I didn't run until a year ago. Started with the Women Run Arkansas clinic (there is one in Fayetteville - they meet at Vandergriff Track 5:30 PM on Tues/Thurs). This is an amazing group of women from walkers to advanced. The goal is to be ready to participate in an all women 5K on 5/12. If you would like more info Google women can run Arkansas 2012. I too have a hubby that runs faster than me - he is getting ready to run the Boston Marathon in 5 weeks. When we run together we kiss, start our watches and take off at our own pace - he does 8:40 mile, I'm at 15 to 16 minute!!! Maybe you can go to a track or trail where you can see each other but not necessarily run together. :running:

Also, check with Rush Running or Fleet Feet - they carry Moving Comfort bras. The trick when trying one on is to fast walk or run in place in the dressing room to see if the "girls" move. Good luck

camaswa
03-13-2012, 09:11 PM
Why is it that sometimes I just can't settle down with a cup of nice tea, but I have to have something, them that one harmless little something is not enough so I go get another then another? just when I think I have stopped this behavior for good, something will get me going like his. It's always at night and always when I am so tired. I know all the recommended tricks like brushig your teeth or doing somethng with your hands, but in that moment it's already too late, it's like I am driven to eat. I no longer do this to the tune of whole cartons of ice cream, thankfully, but it's why I can't do like Bigdog does and cut the bars up for little treats. I plough through 3 of them before I can get a grip. I just get driven to keep eating. Does anyone feel crazy like this sometimes? Sigh.

sarabeanne
03-13-2012, 10:31 PM
"I must say, I'm loving this lifestyle change. I think I've got my husband hooked on road races now, but with his schedule, he's only off every third Saturday so we'd have to find ones that fit his schedule. Now that he's done a 15K, he really wants to do a 5K since he could go much faster and wouldn't have to hold back and pace himself for a longer run. The best part, we'll be doing this as a family and setting a great example for our munchkin. :)"

Jen...
I just have to say good job on setting a good, healthy example for your kiddo... in the end I think that is the most important aspect, changing for your future, and changing for your child's. BRAVO!!

sarabeanne
03-13-2012, 10:34 PM
Buy the MRC cookbook! It helped me so much in the beginning:) I wasn't real creative on my own. There are many fun recipes in it, and you will find a few you really like that will probably be a staple throughout your journey. Takes the guesswork out of what to eat everyday! Just a recommendation:)

Tami,

I have been thinking about getting one, I never seem to have much time to think about real cooking so the piecing it together was working okay, but every once in a while I like to take my time and I think having the cookbook would help. I also tagged a bunch of ideas on our posting here :)

JenB72
03-13-2012, 11:01 PM
Why is it that sometimes I just can't settle down with a cup of nice tea, but I have to have something, them that one harmless little something is not enough so I go get another then another? just when I think I have stopped this behavior for good, something will get me going like his. It's always at night and always when I am so tired. I know all the recommended tricks like brushig your teeth or doing somethng with your hands, but in that moment it's already too late, it's like I am driven to eat. I no longer do this to the tune of whole cartons of ice cream, thankfully, but it's why I can't do like Bigdog does and cut the bars up for little treats. I plough through 3 of them before I can get a grip. I just get driven to keep eating. Does anyone feel crazy like this sometimes? Sigh.

I've done some reading about this because I have the same problem. Is it possible you may have a glucose intolerance? This is something I found on the internet:

If you suffer from glucose intolerance, you may notice certain foods tend to trigger binge eating. When you consume carbohydrates, your body converts them to glucose. Your pancreas increases insulin secretions to remove the glucose from the blood stream. If you are glucose intolerant, the body does not recognize the added insulin. This causes blood insulin levels to rise, stimulating the appetite. If more simple carbohydrates are consumed, the cycle continues.

This is why I have to be extremely conscience of my "cheats." While a single extra slice of bread may seem like nothing to one person, to me, it's a chain reaction. One is not enough. I now recognize that if I put one thing in my mouth that's not OP, it starts a chain reaction and is a recipe for disaster.

JenB72
03-13-2012, 11:09 PM
Thanks for all the kind words about my race. Your support means a lot to me! I was a non-runner for most of my life. I didn't start until 1999. Then I started just walking a mile. Then, I used lightpoles as my guide. Walk past two and then run to the next one. I just continued from there until I was running the whole route and then I increased my distance. If you ever considered it, give it a shot. You may just surprise yourself. There's also a great program you can Google called "Couch to 5K." Check it out. :)

Galadreal
03-14-2012, 10:20 AM
Galadreal - I didn't run until a year ago. Started with the Women Run Arkansas clinic (there is one in Fayetteville - they meet at Vandergriff Track 5:30 PM on Tues/Thurs). This is an amazing group of women from walkers to advanced. The goal is to be ready to participate in an all women 5K on 5/12. If you would like more info Google women can run Arkansas 2012. I too have a hubby that runs faster than me - he is getting ready to run the Boston Marathon in 5 weeks. When we run together we kiss, start our watches and take off at our own pace - he does 8:40 mile, I'm at 15 to 16 minute!!! Maybe you can go to a track or trail where you can see each other but not necessarily run together. :running:

Also, check with Rush Running or Fleet Feet - they carry Moving Comfort bras. The trick when trying one on is to fast walk or run in place in the dressing room to see if the "girls" move. Good luck

Thanks for the suggestions. We actually live right across the street from the lake fayetteville park, and we both enjoy walking. I would like in invest in a bike now that the weather is warmer, but I have crashed so many of them I kind of worry that after a few wipeouts I would not want it anymore. :) I will definatly google the women can run. Thank you!

Also, thank you for the advice about the bras. I have been a DD since high school (ok, I got up to a 42DDD last year, and those don't seem to be shrinking) so good support is a major necessity for me when I think about any exercise. :o

nwcgina
03-14-2012, 11:57 AM
Jen-Just got a chance to read the article on nutrition and it is spot on. If we eat low carb, our body can convert protein and fat into glycogen to keep us going, but our body won't store it in sufficient amount for high energy exercise. So when my exercise was very low while on metaslim I was fine, but when I upped it a little I had to switch to metabalance. Now that I'm really ready to crank it up, I'm glad I'm at the stabilization point. I had briefly thought of the periodization idea for eating, but hadn't really pursued it...and it would make a ton of sense for me. Like right now, I'm starting to up my activity plus I spend time in the yard cutting bushes, going for walks pushing 70 lbs worth of kids, biking anywhere I can rather than drive...so I burn lots of extra calories in the spring/summer/early fall. i have to remember that when the weather gets cold and I drop back my activity, I'll also need to drop back the calories. BTW-one of the best post workout carb to protein ratio foods is lowfat chocolate milk (fat free if you can find it). I can have 1 serving of milk at breakfast on metabalance so I keep light chocolate soy milk on hand. Where we used to live I coudl get fat free chocolate milk, but not here. So it's a post-workout "treat" that fits in my plan. Any combo of protein and carbs is good...your body needs the carbs to restore glycogen in the muscle to be ready for more exercise and needs protein to rebuild the muscle that was damaged...and both carbs and proteins perform better in the presence of the other. Now in saying all of this...I'm sitting here on a "running day" with some kind of severe chest congestion/pain:( So I'm going to the doctor...and of course it's beautiful here and I'd love to run, but I can barely go up and down the stairs without severe pain. Sigh.

JenB72
03-14-2012, 12:45 PM
Jen-Just got a chance to read the article on nutrition and it is spot on. If we eat low carb, our body can convert protein and fat into glycogen to keep us going, but our body won't store it in sufficient amount for high energy exercise. So when my exercise was very low while on metaslim I was fine, but when I upped it a little I had to switch to metabalance. Now that I'm really ready to crank it up, I'm glad I'm at the stabilization point. I had briefly thought of the periodization idea for eating, but hadn't really pursued it...and it would make a ton of sense for me. Like right now, I'm starting to up my activity plus I spend time in the yard cutting bushes, going for walks pushing 70 lbs worth of kids, biking anywhere I can rather than drive...so I burn lots of extra calories in the spring/summer/early fall. i have to remember that when the weather gets cold and I drop back my activity, I'll also need to drop back the calories. BTW-one of the best post workout carb to protein ratio foods is lowfat chocolate milk (fat free if you can find it). I can have 1 serving of milk at breakfast on metabalance so I keep light chocolate soy milk on hand. Where we used to live I coudl get fat free chocolate milk, but not here. So it's a post-workout "treat" that fits in my plan. Any combo of protein and carbs is good...your body needs the carbs to restore glycogen in the muscle to be ready for more exercise and needs protein to rebuild the muscle that was damaged...and both carbs and proteins perform better in the presence of the other. Now in saying all of this...I'm sitting here on a "running day" with some kind of severe chest congestion/pain:( So I'm going to the doctor...and of course it's beautiful here and I'd love to run, but I can barely go up and down the stairs without severe pain. Sigh.

I have been reading more and more about chocolate milk after running. Not to mention, there was a huge chocolate milk trailer in the post-race area Saturday and they were handing out chocolate milk to everyone. What a great excuse to run! ;)

I just got an e-mail from RunDisney about their "Wine & Dine Half Marathon" in November. The best part for me, it's starts at 10 PM! I love that since I'm a night owl. Races just don't start that late! I'm definitely interested in doing it. I ran the Disney World Marathon back in 2005 and while I hurt like heck afterwards, it was an amazing experience. I ran through all 4 parks and on a relativly flat course. It was a great "beginner" marathon. Not sure I'll ever do another marathon, so at least I can check that off my bucket list. :D

I'm sorry you're not feeling well. I think there's something going around. Both the munchkin and I were recently on antibiotics. Get well soon!!!! :hug:

Galadreal
03-14-2012, 01:10 PM
What menues allow you to have milk? I am on beige right now and I really miss it. That used to be my go to snack after a workout, go home and mix up some skim milk with some syrup and I was good to go. And it was an awesome motivator, "if I make it through this half hour of ****, I get a cold chocolate milk". But now, no milk. And although I had a chocolate meal replacement shake a few days ago for a fast lunch (we were running late to get to the movies) it is just not the same.

Of course I would be happy with soymilk too (tastes like a yoohoo), I think Silk has a new fruit soymilk that has (you guessed it) fruit in it, so it is also full of Vitamins from that. I am on their email list, so I got a good coupon for it right after I started and just had to send it on to my non-dieting friends.

faerychic
03-14-2012, 01:18 PM
Why is it that sometimes I just can't settle down with a cup of nice tea, but I have to have something, them that one harmless little something is not enough so I go get another then another? just when I think I have stopped this behavior for good, something will get me going like his. It's always at night and always when I am so tired. I know all the recommended tricks like brushig your teeth or doing somethng with your hands, but in that moment it's already too late, it's like I am driven to eat. I no longer do this to the tune of whole cartons of ice cream, thankfully, but it's why I can't do like Bigdog does and cut the bars up for little treats. I plough through 3 of them before I can get a grip. I just get driven to keep eating. Does anyone feel crazy like this sometimes? Sigh.

camaswa: YES! My time to binge is usually late afternoon when I am hungry and tired. My "I don't give a crap I am going to eat it" moments have been less often as I admitted to myself just recently that I just cannot have my binge foods in the house (La Favorita tortilla chips, peanut butter, chocolate, ice cream). I wanted to be "fair" to the other family members in the house that enjoy these foods so I kept buying them, but I realized that was just an excuse to have my binge foods in the house.

faerychic
03-14-2012, 01:21 PM
What menues allow you to have milk? I am on beige right now and I really miss it. That used to be my go to snack after a workout, go home and mix up some skim milk with some syrup and I was good to go. And it was an awesome motivator, "if I make it through this half hour of ****, I get a cold chocolate milk". But now, no milk. And although I had a chocolate meal replacement shake a few days ago for a fast lunch (we were running late to get to the movies) it is just not the same.

Of course I would be happy with soymilk too (tastes like a yoohoo), I think Silk has a new fruit soymilk that has (you guessed it) fruit in it, so it is also full of Vitamins from that. I am on their email list, so I got a good coupon for it right after I started and just had to send it on to my non-dieting friends.

The Metabalance menu allows 2 servings of dairy daily (soy milk, skim milk, yogurt). One serving is cosumed with breakfast and the other is a snack with an HNS.

camaswa
03-14-2012, 02:16 PM
I've done some reading about this because I have the same problem. Is it possible you may have a glucose intolerance? This is something I found on the internet:

If you suffer from glucose intolerance, you may notice certain foods tend to trigger binge eating. When you consume carbohydrates, your body converts them to glucose. Your pancreas increases insulin secretions to remove the glucose from the blood stream. If you are glucose intolerant, the body does not recognize the added insulin. This causes blood insulin levels to rise, stimulating the appetite. If more simple carbohydrates are consumed, the cycle continues.

This is why I have to be extremely conscience of my "cheats." While a single extra slice of bread may seem like nothing to one person, to me, it's a chain reaction. One is not enough. I now recognize that if I put one thing in my mouth that's not OP, it starts a chain reaction and is a recipe for disaster.
Thanks, I do think this applies to me. I have PCOS and that sets you up for insulin issues. I don't always understand it all, but I do know my blood sugar plummets more dramatically than most other people I know. Also, I definitely gain on fewer carbs than many people I know. So there is something to it.... My sweet cravings are really intense at night. So wondering if that means my blood sugar is falling? Maybe I should save a creamy HNS for evening. And maybe not wait till I am craving...

nwcgina
03-14-2012, 03:44 PM
Jen-that sounds way fun!! I definitely think runs that have an extra element of fun are worth any extra money. Like the warrior dash we are doing. I don't know if my body is up to a half (I have arthritis in my knees) but my sister wants me to try one this fall and/or my husband and I may do the rock n roll half in Nashville next year for our 10th anniversary. I've never run beyond 6, so that would be big. That's why I like the tri's...variety and it's easier on my knees. Ends up I have an upper respiratory infectin. First time in 8 years that I've actually broken down and gone to the doctor for soemthing beyond a checkup. So hopefully the antibiotics will have me running again before the weekend. I'll try to enjoy the 80+ degree day in a chair with a book. Oh, and you had talked about being an example for a munchkin...one of our family favorite exercise days is going to the local track and DH and I take turn running 400 m at a high speed. The kids can just run around the track or take a ball onto the field. Then we run stairs...and if we still have energy we play a little soccer with the kids. Hopefully it sets an example for our kids that fitness is important AND fun. I think my daughter will do her first 1 mile race this fall (a local small race has a 5K my husband does since I usually have to work...a "corn eaters" run for kids that's like a block, then a 1 mile run/walk. I think DD is ready and I'll run it with her since i don't have to work this year...maybe do the 5K too).

lovetofishandrun
03-14-2012, 07:55 PM
CAMASWA - do you ever use urine test strips? I know when I was diagnosed with diabetes eons ago, I had to do that every day. Now my doc wonders why I was ever given that diagnoses. Anyway, it will show if you are spilling too much sugar. I'm thinking about getting a small container myself - my cravings for crunchy/salty have gone crazy over the last month.

NWCGINA - hope you are well soon. Doctor has always told me, if you are congested neck up - you can exercise. If it is below your neck, no exercise until you are well.

camaswa
03-14-2012, 09:35 PM
CAMASWA - do you ever use urine test strips? I know when I was diagnosed with diabetes eons ago, I had to do that every day. Now my doc wonders why I was ever given that diagnoses. Anyway, it will show if you are spilling too much sugar. I'm thinking about getting a small container myself - my cravings for crunchy/salty have gone crazy over the last month.

NWCGINA - hope you are well soon. Doctor has always told me, if you are congested neck up - you can exercise. If it is below your neck, no exercise until you are well.
Actually, no, I never considered that. I will give it some thought. Kind of scary to think of diabetes

nwcgina
03-14-2012, 09:39 PM
thanks, LOVESTOFISHANDRUN. I'd heard that, and tried to remind myself of that. One time I tried to run through chest congestion and ended up with the worst case of bronchitis and was out of running for a month. Yikes. So I sat msyelf in a chair and read. I KNOW it is best, but still disappointing. Took some benedryl so now I'm ready for bed at an early hour.

bigdog
03-14-2012, 10:11 PM
Road trip to see family and went hog wild. WTH! It all started with girl scout cookies........didn't plan ahead. We were staying in hotel not camping :( and traveling with three big dogs so didn't pack food because of limited space and they would have eaten it. Haha. Out to eat first night. Had chicken and shrimp. Left the potatoes. Actually ate half of dinner and gave rest to brother to take home. Then Sunday at family picnic had fried chicken. (took skin off) and left the macaroni and potato salad but ate more girl scout cookies, fudge and ice cream! Then on way back home got a hot fudge sundae! We did walk the dogs Sunday am and played baseball with my little grand nephew so a little activity. I do know if I don't have my protein bars handy I will eat whatever chocolate there is in the house! Got home Monday night and immediately started chugging water and had salad for dinner Back strictly on plan tues am and will weigh in tomorrow am. I weighed in mon nite for a reality check and it was not pretty. chocolate carbs are double devil :devil::devil: Then and warning this is TMI. Crazy TOM w cramps which I normally don't have. Hoping it's not fibroid problems again.....

Camaswa. Re the protein bars. I have been guilty of eating them instead of meals. Had one for lunch today and yesterday had one for breakfast

Oh found another good dessert. Greek yogurt with strawberries and chocolate truffle powder sprinkled on top stirred in. Yum. I know I'm obsessed with it! Haha

Congrats everyone on the marathons and addl activity!! I am not a runner but admire those that are. I'm more of a kick boxer type. Do love speed walking but am a klutz running

bigdog
03-14-2012, 10:18 PM
Road trip to see family and went hog wild. WTH! It all started with girl scout cookies........didn't plan ahead. We were staying in hotel not camping :( and traveling with three big dogs so didn't pack food because of limited space and they would have eaten it. Haha. Out to eat first night. Had chicken and shrimp. Left the potatoes. Actually ate half of dinner and gave rest to brother to take home. Then Sunday at family picnic had fried chicken. (took skin off) and left the macaroni and potato salad but ate more girl scout cookies, fudge and ice cream! Then on way back home got a hot fudge sundae! We did walk the dogs Sunday am and played baseball with my little grand nephew so a little activity. I do know if I don't have my protein bars handy I will eat whatever chocolate there is in the house! Got home Monday night and immediately started chugging water and had salad for dinner Back strictly on plan tues am and will weigh in tomorrow am. I weighed in mon nite for a reality check and it was not pretty. chocolate carbs are double devil :devil::devil: Then and warning this is TMI. Crazy TOM w cramps which I normally don't have. Hoping it's not fibroid problems again.....

Camaswa. Re the protein bars. I have been guilty of eating them instead of meals. Had one for lunch today and yesterday had one for breakfast

Oh found another good dessert. Greek yogurt with strawberries and chocolate truffle powder sprinkled on top stirred in. Yum. I know I'm obsessed with it! Haha

Congrats everyone on the marathons and addl activity!! I am not a runner but admire those that are. I'm more of a kick boxer type. Do love speed walking but am a klutz running

patzi
03-15-2012, 10:02 AM
Need some advise from you ladies.

I have been asked over and over by center and finally said I will TRY to give a date soon to talk to the maintenance group that meets at center once a week, as some are just out of control and they need help . Center wants me to talk to them about how I have maintained all this time...

If anyone is on maintenance or stabilization and is having a problem,would you be so kind to tell me what the problem is, for instance is it occasional binging, eating out of control,stress eating, and for those having a problem, did you binge eat or cheat when on the weight loss challenge.

For those that have maintained , may I ask about your success in maintenance or even stabilization.

The more I think about this, I don't know if I really will do it, as one may not want to hear what I have to say. I know I was talking to a member in waiting room a couple of weeks ago and said she was having a problem over eating in stabilization, and she said how did I manage it, and I saidI watched my trigger foods and I never ate the full amt. called for, ate half to see how it would react and if I gained on it, cut it back, if not included it. And her answer to me is oh my,are we not the perfect one and I just about cried.. So the more I talk to you, maybe I should not do this, but we are all friends here and would like your opinion . I sure don't think I am perfect. I found losing the weight quite a challenge and if it was not for this forum I would never have made it.

Thanks, Patzi

camaswa
03-15-2012, 10:09 AM
Bigdog, welcome back. And congratulations for daring to step on the scale right away. I still struggle to face reality when I know it's not going to be pretty. As a result, sometimes I'm slower to get back on track. And the funny thing is- often the number is not nearly as bad as I fear it will be.

I have an all-day meeting today at a hotel that has a mirco-brewery, of all things. (its Portland, what can I say) My plan is to eat extra protein for breakfast - Greek yogurt AND egg/toast. I can get a salad with chicken at lunch. Then I'm taking a meal replacement shake with me to sip on through the afternoon. You just know there will be bad stuff laid out at the breaks. My
goal is to not let my blood sugar plummet. If I do, the social hour at the end of the day will get the better of me. I have found I feel much better all day long with a bigger protein breakfast than even the green menu allows.

camaswa
03-15-2012, 10:20 AM
Patzi, pardon my language but screw that person. What an incredibly terrible thing to say to you. I am just fuming. That said, I would still encourage you to do it. The thing is, there is no such thing as being perfect. You eat, then you monitor, then you adjust. It's the secret everyone is going to have to learn. One thing I notice in your posts is that you don't seem to have the emotional eating issues that many of us do. You are able to approach maintenance with almost a scientific, analytical perspective. I would guess that person is really an emotional eater for whom food is just too connected to feelings to ever imagine herself as disciplined as you are.

All you can do is talk about what you have struggled with and how you have worked to identify and address your own obstacles. I would encourage you just to tell your own story, not frame it as advice.

Everyone has to face their own demons on this journey. Let us know what you decide!!

Galadreal
03-15-2012, 10:34 AM
Patzi, I am sure this is probably something you have heard before, but she was brobably just being a heifer becuase she was jealous. She looks at you, sees someone who has accomplished what she wants to accomplish and got defesive. Don't get me wrong, I probably would have called her every rude name in the book, and I do not feel sorry for her in the least. She asks your advice and then turns on you when it is not something she wants to hear. She probably envied your will power and ability to trial and error your way through maintenece and keep going.

That being said. If you want to speak to these other people, or if you don't, that is your choice and I would not let one sourpuss ruin the experince for you. In fact you may want to bring this up to your counselor as part of your concerns. There is no reason for people to be hateful to you, and hopefully your center will understand your choices and can, if you do decide to give a talk, keep this rude woman out of the area.

Chickadee
03-15-2012, 11:30 AM
Patzi,
That was incredibly mean and rude of her! I think your maintenance is inspiring and would love to hear someone like you talk. I think you should make her remark part of your presentation. If it was me giving the talk I'd relate that incident and say something about how you're not perfect, but not willing to gain the weight back and this is your way of making it work. Let them know that it takes real effort and dedication to maintain. I am almost 54 years old and have never, ever maintained a big loss for an extended amount of time, so you are very inspiring to me. I read every one of your posts because I know I will learn something. You've really helped me see that it's not over once you hit goal, that in fact, the journey has just begun.
Chickadee

Tamikl
03-15-2012, 12:15 PM
Hi Patzi...

Well I couldn't agree more with the ladies who have offered you feedback here. You are an inspiration. You are very disciplined and this is why it is working for you. That dedication is a crucial ingredient to ultimate success. I really feel like those that are emotional eaters may have a tougher time at this program...as mentioned, it isn't about being perfect, but one must be in a healthy emotional place to handle temptations that will come.

When I quit smoking through a hospital program a few years ago, I was horrified when I was asked to be a co-facilitator of the group...then later asked to give my personal testimony to others. My journey was a spiritual one, and that was a hard one to share because people questioned why God helped me but didn't seem to be helping them. "What made me so special?" OF course, absolutely nothing made me more special than anyone else....the point here is that I feel like because of my success, I felt an obligation to be of help in any way I could be. That was my "give back" to whom I believe helped me to succeed in the first place...God. It was OUT of my comfort zone, but I did it because of that ONE person that just MIGHT be given hope by anything I shared.

I hope this makes sense...and of course you can do what you want. But, I certainly wouldn't allow a negative comment by one person keep you from the many others that could truly benefit from your advice and encouragement:)

lovetofishandrun
03-15-2012, 12:59 PM
Actually, no, I never considered that. I will give it some thought. Kind of scary to think of diabetes

Oh, I wasn't suggesting you have diabetes. Just thought that might help in the evenings when your cravings hit. I'm having cravings between lunch and supper so I'm going to test just to see what is going on.

Last 2 weeks I have gained - puts me 10 lbs. from goal:?:. We had family in for first part of March - hubby's daughter flew in to run half marathon on 3/4 with her dad so there were a lot of carb loading meals. 3 days after she flew home, my mom and sis came in for a mini family reunion - yikes. Been pushing water and think I'm eating right but feel like I have not lost. I think I'm going back to old green menu. Plus I have increased exercise so I will talk to counselor tomorrow. Good luck to everyone at WI's this week.

bigdog
03-15-2012, 01:48 PM
You should definitely speak to the group. Look at how many of us you have helped. You are a true inspiration. Some people will ask me how I've lost weight and when I tell them they say. Oh I love carbs and I'll never cut back on them or I hate to exercise. I want to tell them. Well why askme if you dont want to change? And keep on feeling bad about yourself and gain more weight. Have fun. It's your life. I would tell the counselors your concerns. They should have your back to address any negative responses. I do think you will inspire the majority and that would be so rewarding. :)

Fluffy in Florida
03-15-2012, 02:39 PM
Patzi, whatever you decide do not let that one person influence you. I wish you were at my center giving the talk. I think many people will benefit from your knowledge even if that one person didn't want to hear it. It might also not have been personal. She might just have been having an exceptionally bad day (doesn't make it right and I'm not agreeing with what she did) and struggling more than usual. The center you attend must feel strongly that you would benefit the other patrons or they would not be continuely asking you to speak to them. I believe your insight to how you manage to succeed where others fail will be a huge asset to these people.

nwcgina
03-15-2012, 03:29 PM
Patzi-I echo exactly what bigdog said...no matter if people are asking for your advice on weight loss or on maintenance, you will always have those not willing to pay the price and even try to downgrade you just so they don't feel so guilty for not wanting to do what needs to be done. i'm not a big Dr. Phil fan, but I love when he (and others) say..."If you do what you've always done, you're going to get what you've always had." If people want different results, they have to try a different approach. They need to hear different approaches. If you have 10 people in there, 8 may disregard everything you say. Some of them may be successful with their way, and that is great. but if you can help 2 people, your sharing will have been a success. People are constantly asking how I lost the weight, what I do, etc. Most just roll their eyes when I say "I've been eating better"...no one wants to, they just want the results. But I've now had 4 people truly starting to change their eating habits. For the couple hundred people that have viewed my blog and/or asked me in person that's not a real good percentage, but for those 4 people its awesome...i was inspired by a friend, now I've inspired 4, and hopefully they go on to inspire others. You can't worry about those that don't want to truly change...

Now that I'm on stabilization, I think your advice of adding in ONE thing at a time has been truly helpful. When you get that list of starches you can try, you could easily go crazy trying them...and I know many of them would lead me to overeat (I won't even go close to an animal cracker...those stupid things just seem to jump in my mouth). The one night I was going to try something new and couldn't measure it out is the one night I actually went overboard. But knowing my history of being on plan consistently (almost to a fault), my counselor knew and told me I wouldn't revert back to my own ways. Getting right back on plan is best advice you gave #2. Now I know there are some that can have a treat throughout program and do okay...but when they really look at it, it is actually a part of how they are PLANNING. They PLAN that one drink or whatever (my coworker on plan does this and is still very successful, she says she knows she wouldn't stick with it if she couldn't have one meal a week that isn't as strict). For me, I couldn't. I will start to experiment with treat meals once I'm officially on maintenance (2 more weeks).

JenB72
03-15-2012, 05:29 PM
Patzi, I have one word for that woman...Jealous! Don't give her the power to make you upset. She only wishes she was doing as well on maintenance as you are. I would take her with a grain of salt. If you want to give that talk, do it! If not, then don't. But don't let that one person influence your decision. As you can see from the responses, you already are helping a lot of people. :D

Case in point, I weighed in at lunch time and I had what I like to call a "Patzi Moment." ;) If you saw my previous posts regarding the run I did over the weekend, my eating included carbs and then some. With a purpose, but nonetheless, I wasn't used to it. I also didn't get enough water in over the weekend. When I weighed in on Monday, the scales reflected a 2.5 pound gain. Yikes! So, I got right back in the game and disciplined myself. Carb loading was done and over. Time to get back to the green menu and water. Today, I've lost that 2.5 pounds. So, I'll take that net zero for the week. You've taught me that just because you may put on a few pounds due to diet modifications, that doesn't mean that can't come right back off. So...THANK YOU!!!!

patzi
03-15-2012, 08:54 PM
I want to thank y'all for taking the time to answer my request. That was so kind and I do so appreciate it..

I wanted to say, I use to be an emotional eater, more so when sister initially got cancer and when daughter had stroke, and has been sick.. I would eat candy, and not one bar more than one and just keep eating and eating..Chips, by the bag, on and on. I decided when I went on MRC I either had to do this right this time, or forget it.. I had tried WW, South Beach, Healthy Inspirations and another one that I can't recall that MRC took over.Healthy Inspiration was expensive as was the other one, so I made up my mind after paying the amt. MRC wanted, I was going to do everything in my power to change my train of thought and trust me it was not easy. I was just sick of the yo yo syndrome, so I understand when you say certain things as I have been there. I am so glad that I could keep it together with all the upset in my life and get to where I am. So, all in all, I could not have done any of it without your help, as you went through it with me, and it is my pleasure if I can help someone in return. Again, thank you. I will do the talk sometime in April, depending on my work schedule.

Patzi

camaswa
03-15-2012, 11:37 PM
Hey Patzi,
It's funny that I only know you as someone who is maintaining, not someone who at one time struggled. I do recall you mentioning your daughter's medical problem once a while ago, but I never really connected it or knew that you had yo-yo'ed through other programs. Like me! You have transformed not just how you eat but how you think, how you cope and so much more. THAT is inspiring.

fatburningmama
03-16-2012, 12:05 AM
Does anyone use a handwritten journal book for their food journal? If so whet brand? Where do u purchase it..?

nwcgina
03-16-2012, 04:53 AM
I made my own spreadsheet so I can fax it in, but when I'm on maintenance I'm going to use a "fitbook" to track my food and exercise...you can get them at target.

bigdog
03-16-2012, 11:11 AM
Weighed in this am after my free for all dessert and beer festival last sat to Monday and lost almost all the water weight. Have two more pounds to go! But I'll take care of that continuing to drink extra water, 4 HNSs a day and giant salads w lean protein. Oh I did forget to mention the Mich Ultra I was indulging in. I was with family and sorry to say but beer makes me happy and my 89 year old sweet dad wanted some "home brew" so how could I not have a couple with him? Lol

Camaswa. I did want to mention that I do not order the bariwise or protidiet protein bars any more. They are too good. I've been getting the Nutrisystem bars 18 g protein (at Big Lots). They are kind of chalky and not as tempting Keep in frig cut in quarters in sandwich bags so they are hard and not as chewy gooey and inviting like they would be otherwise. When I grab one in my mind that is a serving. So later in the day if I grab another quarter then it's actually half a bar

Kind of like I cannot have a gallon of ice cream in the freezer I would think about it all day! And eat it all day but individual sugar free fudge cicles will limit me to one a day (wonder if they have protein fudge cicles.)

camaswa
03-16-2012, 11:21 AM
I made my own spreadsheet so I can fax it in, but when I'm on maintenance I'm going to use a "fitbook" to track my food and exercise...you can get them at target.
I got one of these too, they are great!

rachels77
03-16-2012, 12:25 PM
Patzi - you are such an inspiration. I LOVE reading your posts and hearing your advice... it is so very helpful. I agree with everyone else that that woman was just being rude. Any mature adult would realize that sometimes, asking advice means that you won't always like what you hear. That's just part of it... owning what you eat and moving on.

I admire your drive and your attitude. I think MOST people on the weight loss journey would LOVE to hear what you have done so they can improve themselves. Asking for help is not an indication of weakness... we're all human and we mess up... it's an indication of want to do better, you know? Anyway, sorry I'm late on my response...crazy time at work...

rachels77
03-16-2012, 12:32 PM
Okay, this week has been the worst week for me, stress-wise and work-wise, since I stared MRC in August. The internet at work was down and I was the only one to fix it... had to work from 7 a.m. until 8 p.m. every night since Thursday... and one night... I just "had it".

I know this was a totally emotional response but on Tuesday night I drove to the nearest Taco Bell and at 1/2 of a 7 layer burrito... then drove to Sonic and had some sweet potato tots... thinking the whole time "I shouldn't be doing this..." I HATE how out-of-control I felt and that I let the stress get the best of me. And now, my WI at home yields a 2 1/2 pound gain! Yikes! Soooo not worth it, guys.

But, I got back on the wagon on Wednesday and have tried to stay on for the past few days... hopefully it will come off. But the added stress (which usually causes me to gain) along with the lack of sleep (another trigger) and TOM (going on 14 days now) combined horribly for me. I know it's not a valid excuse, but "it is what it is".

I'm just really sick with myself for what I did. And, I'm TERRIFIED of regaining the weight, but on the flip side I have dwelled on it so much that I think I need to move on and that the dwelling may be a good sign that I won't allow the behavior to continue, you know?

What do you guys think?

selway
03-16-2012, 12:51 PM
rachels77,

You definitely have the right attitude - slipped up, but got back on track.

I know I have to watch the cycle that sometimes gets me if I beat myself up too much. Slip up, then depressed about slipping up so driven to emotional eating, get back on track and then even more devastated if I slip up again....

You got this!

camaswa
03-16-2012, 01:59 PM
I would love to hear others' understanding of this concept. My counselor just told me that when you eat on and off program multiple times you cause your body to burn muscle instead of fat. And when you do that, your metabolism slows, so maintenance is ultimatey harder. Thus yo yo dieting is born.

At 165, I thought I was about at goal, but my bodyfat is 39#, which is not good. She said I should get below 30, which would have me at about 145. I don't know why this was never established when my goal was originally set, and she said it should have been.

This has me really rattled. I was thinking I was almost there and just needed to keep exercising to firm up. Now I think I need to really refocus on the program. But that is feeling depressing to me. I think I need to really understand the physiology better (help, Gina! We talked about this before, apparently I didn't quite get it). I didn't really get that going on and off program was slowing FAT loss and causing muscle loss.

What do others know about this?

Galadreal
03-16-2012, 03:21 PM
I would love to hear others' understanding of this concept. My counselor just told me that when you eat on and off program multiple times you cause your body to burn muscle instead of fat. And when you do that, your metabolism slows, so maintenance is ultimatey harder. Thus yo yo dieting is born.

At 165, I thought I was about at goal, but my bodyfat is 39#, which is not good. She said I should get below 30, which would have me at about 145. I don't know why this was never established when my goal was originally set, and she said it should have been.

This has me really rattled. I was thinking I was almost there and just needed to keep exercising to firm up. Now I think I need to really refocus on the program. But that is feeling depressing to me. I think I need to really understand the physiology better (help, Gina! We talked about this before, apparently I didn't quite get it). I didn't really get that going on and off program was slowing FAT loss and causing muscle loss.

What do others know about this?

I know that when I went in and they asked me what I wanted to to weigh, I told them 150, they said that with my muscle mass and bone structure my ideal weight should be between 154 and 182. I am honestly not sure why they did not go over that with you, or if you lost alot of muscles on the plan. We try (try being the key part here) to hit the gym for half an hour 3 times a week. The only time they have popped me back on the scale and run a current through me the said I have not lost any muscle mass.

I don't understand how getting on and off program too much switches you to burning mucle instead of fat. That does not make any sense to me if you are still taking your protien drinks to help preserve the muscle. If I was in your situation I would probably also just be going to the gym to tone up. Sorry i do not have better advice, but what you said just does not make alot of sense to me.

I guess the real question is how do you feel? How are your clothes fitting? Do you feel like you need to lose more or just try to build more muscle? Not to be rude, but it is your body, and some of us just have areas that are going to retain alot of fat (boobs, brain, etc) Although I think your center probably has your best intrest at heart, i also think you should consider your own feelings on the matter.

patzi
03-16-2012, 04:22 PM
rachels77... In answer to the following..

I'm just really sick with myself for what I did. And, I'm TERRIFIED of regaining the weight, but on the flip side I have dwelled on it so much that I think I need to move on and that the dwelling may be a good sign that I won't allow the behavior to continue, you know?

What do you guys think?

I say do not be terrified, it is over with, hope you enjoyed it and go on. I really believe setback can be success if one learns from it, it really can, and this is not failure, let us call it a moment due to circumstances. Don't beat yourself up. Just start focusing as to what you can do to get back on program and you will be fine.. When you have a setback, shake it off and move on..Remember you are in charge here. Enjoy the weekend without any regrets..

Camaswa... I was told same about going on and off program. Only thing I can say is that the people that I know at center that went on and off program on a regular basis, are having a heck of a time with maintenance. I think they have not conditioned their mind differently with the diet and they have not focused on portions. One has to want to lose weight and do it right this time, and some have not made it there. Consultant told me a cheat here and there can be corrected , but to do on a regular basis is not good... I really don't know what else to say about this.

I have always journaled and also journal today in a small 4x6 spiral book I keep in my pocketbook.. I never have counted calories, when I hit maintenance and that does not mean that is right but it works for me, but I can become sloppy if I do not journal, and it has helped me find what I eat that is a problem for me.



Patzi

patzi
03-16-2012, 04:31 PM
I have a question of the Syntrax whey powder, like chocolate truffle, fuzzy navel, etc..

What is this replacing in the MRC diet? I bought the variety pack, and it says 1/4 cup is 7 grams of protein. The creamy is one package = 15 grams of protein.. Would you take 1/2 cup = close to one creamy?

Chocolate truffle in my iced coffee is delightful...

Thanks
Patzi

bigdog
03-16-2012, 09:38 PM
I count it as a clear since it has no carbs, no fat and no sugar. If you measure out little less than 3/4 scoop which is 70 cal. And approx 17 g protein the Same as clear HNSs which are 70 cal and 15 g protein.
one full scoop is 23 g protein and 100 cal. The main difference is no carbs so wouldn't be a creamy

Works for me!! Has anyone tried the chocolate latte flavor? Rocky is the one that told us about it.......where is she by the way.?

Camaswa. I think they are measuring your fat percentage wrong. That makes no sense. I know when I asked for a copy of my tape that had my fat percentage on it. They had my height wrong??? And had my goal weight at 145 which has never been my goal ever. I love the MRC plan but never believed in their supplements, saliva test and some of the other bs. Sorry but you are doing so good and I don't want you to be discouraged. You wear a size ten now and have a personal trainer, exercise all the time and make great choices daily. AND you threw away not one but two really good boxes of chocolate. That still blows my mind! So tell them to get their sh@@ straight and start praising and encouraging you!!! Their way of measuring fat has to be off. ;)

patzi
03-16-2012, 10:06 PM
Thanks Big Dog..Appreciate the info.

Patzi

bigdog
03-17-2012, 11:55 AM
Meant to say I measure so it's equal to calories of the clear HNS. If its more protein that's even better. I really don't care for meat too much so the more protein I can get in the better. I could live on Greek yogurt, eggs, cheese, cottage cheese, protein shakes and bars! Love seafood but get tired of chicken really fast unless it's very spicy or Asian style. Every time my Chef DH cooks it's steak and salad. Or salmon which I don't care for unless it's Asian lacquered! Sometimes I'd much rather have my chocolate strawberry shake! Or Greek yogurt with berries

Hey. Happy St Paddys Day. May the luck of the Irish be with us all! All of my girlfriends are in Savannah today drinking green beer!

P.s. officially at 166 again after my crazy weekend. The extra water really helped and I hope I do not run into any of those girl scouts with their Devil cookies. Haha

lovetofishandrun
03-17-2012, 12:28 PM
WI yesterday saw a loss of half lb. - better than gaining! Counselor put me on Meta-Balance after she reviewed my log - running 4xs a week and increasing mileage preparing for 10K. Also, strength training 2xs a week, yogalates 2xs a week and now starting to swim 2xs a week. I would appreciate any suggestions from those of you on Meta-Balance. Have a great weekend.:jig:

nwcgina
03-18-2012, 05:43 PM
camaswa-Whether you do a "ketogenic" diet or are losing due to calories, you are going to lose some muscle mass, plain and simple. That's how are bodies work. Unless someone does HEAVY weight training (and I mean heavy) you are going to lose some muscle whether your calorie loss came from eating only 800 calories of cheetos or 800 calories of veggies and chicken (although one woudl leave you with a huge malnutrition issue). I've tracked mine myself as I've went along and even with exercise, I've lost muscle. What I initially calculated at my ideal weight for 25% body fat would have been 161, but I'm in the low 150's and right around 30% body fat because of the loss of muscle. I have 2 choices (so do you) to get to the body fat percentage I want...maintain my current weight with healthy eating and change my body compostion through aerobic exercise and strength training or try to lose more weight (which will involve more muscle mass loss) to get to the body fat % I want. I knew intially I just needed to lose some weight even at the expense of muscle. Now I'm at the point the rest needs to be maintaining my weight but adding more exercise to change my body composition. That is my summer goal. It's not going to happen quick like the weight loss did, it will take longer. BUT the huge benefit is that I will look better and as you build muscle you just automatically burn more calories (not to mention burning more calories just from exercise...but don't get the idea it equals a big mac...it's mroe like a banana or chocolate milk treat).

Going "off plan" frequently and then regaining the weight is more of a behavioral issue...if the off plan times were planned and carried out as planned, you are most likely going to carry on being able to PLAN in treats but maintain a healthy eatig plan. But if the off plan times were in response to stress, social situations, or feelings of out of control eating or habit and you haven't sufficiently addressed those issues, then weight regain is more likely (and the bad part is when you regain, the muscle you lost doesnt' come back without exercise, so you are burning fewer calories and look heavier).

On another interesting (although slightly depressing) weight maintenance issue...I've been looking at a lot of the recent research. ONe of the things they've noticed is that in people that have lost weight, no matter how they lost it, the hormones that influence hunger and appetite remain elevated even a year past the weight loss has stopped...and EVEN IF the person regains weight, the appetite is elevated (which is why people often gain weigt back and then some). What this means for me and maintenance, a lifelong eating PLAN is the only way I'm going to maintain. I can't go back to letting my hunger guide me...it will lie to me (especially as an emotional eater). I have to know what calorie range my body will maintain my exercise level and weight and plan my daily eating according to that.

The professor has left the building (but feel free to ask questions).
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lovestofishandrun-With all that exercise you definitely need to be on metabalance. I love it. With your exercise level you may still have days (usually after a long run day) that you are fatigued due to low calories. Be sure to talk to your center. My counselor was great at helping me come up with ideas for timing my snacks/meals around my exercise. Also, you can have a bar for one of your snacks everyday, but I found if I had one everyday I was losing less or stopping loss. I started doing a bar only on heavy exercise days (or half a bar for the "HNS" for one of my snacks plus the given other item). I lost my last 15 on metabalance. It was slower but my mood and exercise thanked me:)

camaswa
03-18-2012, 06:17 PM
Gina- got it! Thank you. The counselor swore if I didn't go off plan at all, I would not lose any muscle. She said i would lose 3 pounds a week and all would be fat. Its true I have been dabbling around with eating a little extra this and extra that, but frankly, I never lost 3 pounds per week even at the beginning when I stayed 100 percent on plan. I have never quite trusted that they know much or that the left hand knows what the right is doing. One counselor got me started on stabilization six pounds before my goal, and this other one is now telling me i should have had a much lower goal all along.

But I do agree that 39% bodyfat is too high. And I already am doing some strength training, but not as much cardio as maybe i should. Tomorrow I am leaving for a 4 day business trip, during which time I am going to stay on plan as best i can, and during my downtime I am going to try to decide what I really want to do next. Like maybe commit to 30 more days and refocus like in the beginning, see where that takes my bodyfat, and at the same time, commit to exercise more. That's where I am leaning now. Im just tired of going to the center- its a long drive, the obligation of fitting that in to my schedule makes me feel anxious and I dont feel all that confident in their guidance. On the other hand, i dont want to give up, either. Right now, I am going to stop thinking about it. Its snowing here and i have to pack a bag for 80 degree weather - I have no idea what to pack!

nwcgina
03-18-2012, 08:57 PM
MRC isn't the only plan that says if you follow their plan exactly you won't lose any muscle, most say that. And without serious strength training it is physiologically impossible no matter what you eat. Now a low protein high carb diet plan that leads to weight loss, you may lose more muscle because your body can only use protein to rebuild muscle and can't make protein from any other source. So if you don't take in enough protein, you will get more muscle wasting than if you have a diet that is high in protein (plus the higher protein diets lead to greater satiety and less blood sugar spikes which can decrease cravings...so I've found it to be very successful for me, but it's not magic).

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I had a girls weekend away to a mom's convention, which meant lots of eating out. I actually did okay. Did a veggie burrito thing one night and didn't eat much of the shell, got a smart one egg sandwich to make for breakfast in the hotel (I wans't on top of things enough to make something and take it with me), took off the bun of my sandwich and stashed the chips and cookies in my bag for DH, and the last meal out was italian. And not a good italian that had fish or chicken choices...just pasta and big bread bowls:( So I had a little bread and ordered chili. Who orders chili at an Italian restaurant? It was the best choice on the menu and while it wasn't great, it kept me on track.

I start my last week of stabilization this week. Then on to maintenance. I don't know how different my maintenance will look from the last week of stabilization, but for the most part I've felt really satisfied on my stabilization plan...and with the super nice weather I've gotten in a lot of extra exercise. I can easily can an hour of biking, running, or walking on days like this. DD is 5 and today wanted to try riding her bike to her school so she can do it on school days (with me along of course). So I jogged by her while the rode...then she wanted to ride more. So we went a total of 3 miles. I call her my new running buddy.

JenB72
03-19-2012, 09:22 AM
Happy Monday! Had a rather stressful weekend, but didn't let it derail me. The munchkin's allergies are in full effect and with it her "terrible 2's" come out. Cough, major runny nose, and drama, drama, drama. At one point, I looked at my husband and said, "Why am I arguing with a 2 year old?!" Wore me out! The one thing I did have control over was my eating. So, whereas in the past I would use it as an excuse to say, "The heck with it", I didn't this time. It would have been so easy to. I'm 2 pounds from goal and I really, really, really, really, really would love to get there. :goodscale

rachels77
03-19-2012, 11:26 AM
Camaswa, Gina, and Jen -

You guys are so inspirational! I love how you handle eating and excerise... and emotional eating. Such a great way to view things.

I'm still working on it. I think I've come to realize this week that my eating will always be an issue, a struggle... but if I go into it with my "eyes wide open" and know my weaknesses, I can address them before it's too late, you know? I know that I'm a stress eater, and I have "oh forget it" moments and I should prepare to avoid them or at least replace them with something healthier... an activity, a blog or journal, or something.

This weekend went much better. I'm also realizing how GREAT I feel without the added weight. I actually did housework AND played a TON with my kids and they LOVED it. I never realized how much they enjoy having an active mommy until this weekend, and that made all the difference....

Galadreal
03-19-2012, 11:35 AM
I had kind of an off weekend. At weigh in on Friday i gained a pound, dispite being crazy strict the week before and not allowing any deviation from plan. They said it was probably water weight, I had hit a pleateau but it was a good sign.

Good sign or not, I went off plan on Saturday and made a reuben sandwich, which is just a st. patricks day tradition with my husband. Of course, we stuck to plan with everything else, 1 slice of 45 cal bread, 1/2 oz swiss, walden farms thousand Island dressing, and 4 oz sourkraut. We just used 4 oz of corned beef (all fat trimmed off) instead of chicken or turkey. I know I should feel really bad about going off (I also ate 2 hershies kisses), and I know the plateaus are normal. But I just can't bring myself to feel bad about it. I got back on track the next day and hopefully this stupid stall out in weight loss will go away soon.

lovetofishandrun
03-19-2012, 01:26 PM
Question about baked oatmeal recipe. Is that quick cooking or old fashioned oatmeal? THANKS

JenB72
03-19-2012, 02:08 PM
Well, I'm bummed. :( WI at lunch and stayed the same. My counselor wasn't worried at all and said it was probably due to losing 2.5 pounds last Thursday. Given that I have so little to lose, it's just harder now. Here's hoping for something on Thursday.

Baby Doll
03-19-2012, 03:32 PM
Happy St. Patty's day all! :luck2you: I got to sign the 20 lb board last Friday. Today, the first person outside of my immediately family noticed I have lost weight. She told me I looked great! This was a tremendous boost because I "behaved myself" and didn't use the holiday weekend as an excuse to overindulge. :cupgold:

Galadreal
03-19-2012, 06:17 PM
ARGH!!

For 3 weeks I have been. I have been crazy good (ok, except for Saturday, and that was mostly on program). I have not cheated, I have not allowed myself any sugar, I have seen other people in my office (someone was passing out free homemade cookies today) eating all this stuff I want. I want sugar!

The very idea of going home and eating another piece of chicken or turkey, or even steak, just makes me nauseous. I can't choke down any more veggies, raw or cooked. I don't want to eat much of anything, but I would rip someone's arm off and beat them with it for a slice of cake.

This can't be normal. They said these cravings would go away after the first week. And to be honest even though I want cake, the idea of any food makes me feel kind of ill. Nothing sounds even remotely edible. Ok, I would probably not turn down a pepperoni pizza with black olives, but even that (although my mouth would like it) makes me queezy just thinking about it.

I got back my hormone results and they said I am estrogen dominate, which is funny, becuase I have to take birth control due to my testosterone levels being too high becuase of the PCOS. They wanted me to take all this stuff (most of which I could get for free through my husband's company, thank you love). But, I am tired of taking a handfull of pills every morning. I just want a day off.

Does anyone else have these? Does anyone just take a day and say "nope, I need a break", how much has this affected your loss? I know that if you start and stop and cheat it slows it down. But I just want 1 meal and desert.

I can go home and choke down more chicken and broclii, but I am just curious if this is normal or and i just a raving psychotic who's body is evil.

Tamikl
03-19-2012, 07:51 PM
You are not evil....you are human:). We have all struggled in this weightless journey. It is a Marathon....not a foot race. This process is different for everyone...not right or wrong. The state of one's emotionally health and overall attitude while losing weight is so critical to the success of it. If your weightless efforts are slower as you work through various struggles, then so be it. Not addressing feelings could prevent you from keepi g your weight off.
When I read your post, I relate to those feelings...noone will tell u that this journey is easy...because it is anything but that! But it is worth the effort...you are worth the effort...and when u truly believe that, it will get easier:). Hang in there. Evaluate your motivation for doing this program. The choice is yours. This isn't a prison sentence...it is an opportunity:). Sometimes just seeing it from a different perspective makes a huge difference.

patzi
03-19-2012, 09:05 PM
Question about baked oatmeal recipe. Is that quick cooking or old fashioned oatmeal? THANKS

It is old fashioned oatmeal. Just made some Sunday, with apples, and frozen cranberries.. Came out great. I used pumpkin pie spice for seasoning.

Patzi

patzi
03-19-2012, 09:06 PM
Jen...
Those last few pounds did a job on me.. I guess you forgot all the whining I did..LOL.. I did not gain, but it was sooooo slow coming off, but it will, I promise.. I know the feeling. For me it was the last 5 pounds.

Patzi

nwcgina
03-19-2012, 10:06 PM
I agree with Tami that you are human. For me I had days I had to literally ask myself...can you eat right for just ONE MORE meal. Just one more. And I would. And then another. And then another. I kept switching up my veggies and meats and being creative which helped. I learned which veggies I liked and refused to choke down any I didn't. I made a list of protein dishes I liked from each protein group and tried to keep rotating them so it wasn't always bland chicken and broccoli (I actually ate that very seldom after the first few weeks). And now I am in a sort of routine for noon...3 days (MWF) is a chicken spinach strawberry salad, T & Th is "pumpkin pie" MRC style (made with spagetti squash and ricotta, I leave out the melba "crust"). Having "pie" two times a week as my lunch is awesome I have my lists for evening meals. Did I ever want to eat my own hand off? Yes. Go completely nuts and eat from liek 5 different drive thrus? Yes. Did I? No. And the end was worth it. My inspiration was a friend that lost 100+ lbs in a year on MRC and only went off for her brother's wedding...other than that, packed her own meals, etc. Don't feel guilty for how you feel. It's a term called "hangry"...you are upset about feeling like you are trapped into eating healthy. Just was listening to it on one of the fitness podcasts I listen to.

bigdog
03-20-2012, 12:34 AM
Galadreal -

"I don't want to eat much of anything, but I would rip someone's arm off and beat them with it for a slice of cake."

I laughed out loud and woke my DH up!!!!! :-) i know how you feel, i'm so tired of salads...my DH made dinner last night and it was flank steak and salad again! i had a huge salad for lunch and then dinner and lunch today and dinner! i almost feel asleep chewing on that dang salad tonight...felt like a rabbit! :bunny2: guess i'm firming up my jaws w/ all that chewing... you have to get the Syntrax Chocolate Truffle protein powder if you are craving dessert! seriously it's the only reason i have stuck to this plan! and get a GE Single blender ! i feel like i have dessert each and every day when i mix the powder w/ water and ice and blend it up! add frozen strawberries and it's exactly like a chocolate strawberry shake. add a little left over coffee...mocha shake. i ordered the variety pack of Syntrax Saturday and looking forward to trying new flavors. i needed to add some variety so got some turkey bacon to "fry" up in PAM to put on my salad and eat with my scrambled egg in the am. if you like the Greek yogurt, that's a great dessert mixed with berries...i add a dollop of lite cool whip (20 cal.)

it is in the 80s here so threw on my shorts this weekend - couldn't get into hardly anything last summer and this year, they are practically falling off! can't wait to try on last year's summer clothes and see what i can wear now. that's what motivates me the most on keeping this weight off is fitting into my clothes. my summer jackets from last year button up now and are loose - i am so glad i didn't give alot of that stuff away - i was at a point last year where i never thought i'd lose weight again after trying Weight Watchers and other plans. my DH is rebeling though and not as much support as he used to be...there is junk food all over the house but i will be strong.....no one is making me eat that stuff - it's my own decision and ladies, repeat after me. Carbs are the dang devil! :devil: (i'm still looking for those :devil: stickers i can put on his oreos, pretzels, chips, popcorn.... :)

Galadreal
03-20-2012, 10:42 AM
I won't lie, I broke...I started crying on my husband when he talked about making a salad for dinner. We ordered a pizza. Which, going off program for 1 meal once a month does not make me feel bad. It did at the time, I felt like a huge failure. But this morning I don't, I feel like I got a break from salad, I actually do not feel trapped by only eating from this small list, and I am ready to go back to it, Besides, maybe this will shock my system enough to break this stupid plateau.

Bigdog, thank you for the advice, I will definatly get a variety pack and try out the chocolate truffle. I miss my chocolate milk after workouts. I mean I like going to the gym well enough, but that was definatly a perk.

So yeah, I fell off the horse with a really loud crash. But I am back this morning, made a "not an omlet" for breakfast (just eggs fried that way, but no veggies or meat or cheese. Thank you Grosse Point Blank) and some cinnamon toast. Hubby packed the salad and cottage cheese for lunch. I will have to try the pumpkin pie idea, it sounds good.

Now, I am off...like a herd of turtles to the morning meeting in my department. Whoosh! :carrot:

patzi
03-20-2012, 12:15 PM
I had maintenance weigh in and lost the 1/2 pounds I gained, bringing me 5 pounds under goal..

They measured me and I am ashamed to say, being a nurse, I should know what this all means but don't. Body fat went from 31 to 29.1 , gained 1 1/2 pound of muscle and gained 1/12 pound of water meaning I am hydrated.

I was at meetings two days this week and took a shake for breakfast and lunch both days and then had a regular supper on green menu. Welllll, I gained 2 pounds on that, and went to the old green menu to get it off before weigh in. I was told there is 10 grams of sugar in the shakes and I should never take more than 2/3 of a package. I did the whole pack with a HNS. Was tikd too much sugar and too much protein.. I know one person said they gained when on meta quick or did not lose, can't recall who, and I thought it was Jen, but then I could be mistaken, next time, take 2/3 or better yet they said 1/2 of package of shake if you have that problem.

Wishing everyone a wonderful day..
Patzi

Galadreal
03-20-2012, 01:00 PM
I had maintenance weigh in and lost the 1/2 pounds I gained, bringing me 5 pounds under goal..

They measured me and I am ashamed to say, being a nurse, I should know what this all means but don't. Body fat went from 31 to 29.1 , gained 1 1/2 pound of muscle and gained 1/12 pound of water meaning I am hydrated.

Patzi

Patzi,

from all the research I have been doing for women 25-30% or so is in the healthy/not althletic range. There is a chart and information here

builtlean.com/2010/08/03/ideal-body-fat-percentage-chart/

with the www in front of course. Of course you also need to take into account age and whatnot. So take a look, see the sites, ride the rides, etc.

I have been trying to figure it all out and was told that my ideal range is from 154-182. After measuring myself at home (I got a tiny 20$ thing at amazon that runs the current through me and tells me my fat percentage) I am 45.9%...which makes me sad. But if I had no body fat I would be about 128 (I think that is right, it has been a few days and my brain is kind of fuzzy sometimes about specific numbers) But women, more than men, are supposed to have more body fat. My husband and I were talking about this becuase he is eating on program to be supportive, but not taking the HNS, and he is losing weight like crazy. I make him check his body composition at least every few weeks to make sure he is retaining muscles. So far, no loss.

Wow, that was a long drawn out thing. Either way. There are several sites out there where you can enter weight and waist measurement and whatnot and it will help determine your body fat percent even without the fancy dancy little doodad. But i am a tech junkie, so I wanted it.

And now time to try to sleep with my eyes open sitting at my desk...oh wait. That's work. nevermind.

faerychic
03-20-2012, 02:15 PM
"from all the research I have been doing for women 25-30% or so is in the healthy/not althletic range. There is a chart and information here"

Yikes! I just had my body comp done on Saturday and am at 38% body fat. My counselor mentioned that my body fat may not get down to within range since I have large breasts (and they are essentially just fat!).

Good news is I finally broke my 3 week platueau and had a 1.5 pound loss on Saturday. Bad news is I am having a colonoscopy tomorrow so I am on clear liquids today and fear with all the sugar & salt in juices, gatorade and broth that I will have a gain.

Galadreal
03-20-2012, 03:06 PM
Faerychic: I figure as long as I feel good and think that i look good (having awesome abs back would be nice) then I will consider it a win. I have worn a DD or DDD since high school, even during my weight lifting. and part of why I want to lose some of my squishyness is so that my back will quit giving me so many problems. I will still have to lug around alot up there, but not so much everywhere else.

Besides, like everything else having to do with losing weight, nothing is written in stone and everyone is shaped and sized differently. I cannot say how many times I have been told by women that they lose weight from their boobs first, but I have never had that problem (fingers crossed that I won't) so I understand where you are comming from.

Oh, and congrats on breaking your plateau! And even if you have a little gain from the sodium in the broth and whatnot, it will probably just be water weight and should not be a problem once you are able to get away from it again.

bigdog
03-20-2012, 07:48 PM
Hey Camaswa. Read faerychicks. Blog. Typing on new iPad so ignore my typos. Didn't you say you are top heavy. (lucky!). So there is your fat ratio! Tell your consultant that! ;). My good friend who is well endowed always says each b@@b is ten pounds!

ynapier
03-20-2012, 08:50 PM
Went to WI today and was surprised by the number. Down 1.5. I was feeling like I would not be down any. So that was a good surprise. They also did measurements and I have lost a total of 79 inches. That is pretty amazing if you ask me. I am going to have to purchase more program time and am really bummed about that. I am thinking another 4 weeks should be long enough to reach my goal. I haven't brought this up to the center yet and won't until they make a remark about my time. I was hoping to reach goal in the time that I purchased but that's not going to happen. For some reason this is making me feel like I failed. I know that's nuts because I am so much healthier and eat so much better so there is no way that can be a fail. But I still feel like I have failed. Just having a pity party for myself. I'm going to gazelle now so maybe that will boost the mood.

nwcgina
03-20-2012, 11:38 PM
patzi-those numbers mean that even though your weight is staying relatively the same, you are getting more muscle and losing fat (so looking even better).

For everyone...any reduction is body fat % reduces your risk of disease. so yes, there is are ranges that are healthier than others, but if you are at 45% and get down to 35% that is a HUGE...I mean HUGE improvement in disease risk (not to mention you look and feel better). But some people may be discouraged because 35% is considered an unhealthy body fat%, but it is waaaaay healthier than 45%. So all you are looking for is progress. I've always wanted to be in the 25-27% range. I will be taking mine again in a week when we do body comps in my ex. phys. lab. Here's an interesting thing you all may want to note. When you use a hand held or one you stand on, it only calculates that part of your body (i.e., if you are standing on a scale that reads body fat %, it only reads you basically waist down). So if you are standing on a scale and you know you retain most of your fat in your bottom areas, your actual percentage may be slightly low. But as long as you continue to monitor with the same piece of equipment you will be able to track progress. also, hydration levels can throw off the #'s one way or another.

kegip09
03-21-2012, 08:57 AM
Hello anyone, I was reading that some of you have really lost weight(Congrat), just wanted to know are you apart of the metabolic research program and if so, what do your menu consist of to help with the weight loss? Thanks

JenB72
03-21-2012, 09:59 AM
Happy Hump Day!!! Felt like crap yesterday. Not sure what was going on. I even bailed on running at lunch time when I was looking forward to it. Ever have one of those days where every bone and muscle in your body just aches? Not PMSing, so that's out. Just an off day I guess.

Congrats baby doll, patzi, faerychic, & ynapier on your losses! Great job!

rachels77
03-21-2012, 02:07 PM
Congratulations on the losses! I went in today and was down 1/2 pound... still down, so I'm happy. I also think it was higher due to me having steak last night. Hopefully it will be even lower on Saturday's weigh-in.

I did my body comp today and am down from 51.2 % body fat to 41%. Still high, but I'm working on it. Doing more weight lifting and such so I hope to continue to do better. Just since February I've lost 2% body fat, but only 3.5 pounds... but my couselors said that it was good because my water and everything else stayed the same, so I'm only losing the fat. So, I have to retrain my mind to think in terms of body fat.

Btw, I am also well-endowed up top, so I appreciate what you ladies have said about the body fat... interesting.

Galadreal - I laughed about your beating someone with their arm for a slice of cake! I felt like that too... often, it was lack of sleep or stress or not keeping my water up that caused it. But I appreciate that you got the pizza... I personally cannot do that, as it is a major trigger (along with the chocolate meal replacement bars and nuts) for me.

Galadreal
03-21-2012, 03:03 PM
Rachels77 - I am lucky in that respect, as long as I don't feel deprived I am fine. As long as I don't feel like I can't have something I am ok. I just hate being told that something is not possible, and when I am I tend to get stubborn and bullheaded and drive myself up the wall. Or in this case into the arms of the waiting pizza delivery guy (not really, we went and picked it up, but it does not sound nearly so dramatic). But I had it, I am fine now, had my NOT ON PROGRAM food, and now I am back, refreshed and not feeling so restricted. Had leftover "Fried" chicken strips that husband made last night (melba toast, egg, spices, chicken, spray of I-can't-believe-its-not-butter" and bake). The recipe was in the cookbook, very good. That was lunch along with a little leftoever asparigus and some cucumber slices. This morning I made greek yogurt and peach smoothies.

Thankfully my only real trigger food is chocolate. Which is why I am a bit concerned about this weekend. You see part of my Valentines Day gift from Eric was a voucher for a 60 minute deep tissue massage with chocolate oil and hot stone treatment. I set it up for this Friday (off for spring break). Of course, the thought occurs to me afterwards, how dangerous it is for Gail to be driving around town with free run of the car and a credit card, smelling like chocolate while on a diet. I told Eric he might come home and see nothing but a giant pile of Cadbury egg wrappers and me laying behind it in a sugar coma. :bunny:

patzi
03-21-2012, 03:36 PM
Thank y'all for date on body fat, etc.. Much appreciated.

Want to congratulate all those that lost weight.

kegip09...
I am not sure I am answering your questions, but I am a client of MRC, and have made it to maintenance.. I used the Meta Slim Menus while losing weight, as that is what the center put me on. I weighed in twice a week, and now weigh in once a week, my choice.

This week, I am adding a large candy bar to my eating to see how I do on next weigh in. I mean one of those biggies... I gained last time I tried it, but am trying again. And trust me I will relish every last bite. My triggers are chocolate, so want to see if I can handle just the one, and if there are craving frenzys after eating it. My poor husband can never give me a box of candy, as I don't trust myself around it. Could not just eat one and let it go, so never have anything like that around... Sigh....

Wishing you all a great day and great weigh ins.

Patzi

Tamikl
03-21-2012, 06:48 PM
Hi ladies!

Well, I am tickled pink today..3 weeks in a row, the exact same weight to the ounce!! Being on Maintnenance now, that is very good news:) I THINK I might actually be getting the hang of this..slow but sure. Never will I allow myself to believe "I got it." I remain on guard..knowing my triggers and trying my best to avoid them. One day I will be stronger, but for the time being, I am content with avoiding things I know would be tough to resist.

I think I really like Maintenance now that I have figured out ways to relax on it and just enjoy it without going crazy on it! :yay:

Keep up the great work, ladies! It is worth it!

ynapier
03-21-2012, 06:52 PM
Tami - That's great news. Enjoy it.

Galadreal
03-21-2012, 06:58 PM
Awesome job Tamikl, very congratulations!!

nwcgina
03-21-2012, 07:53 PM
patzi-that sounds wonderful. I hope for your that doesn't cause gain this time:) I'm one week from maintenance and I don't know what that will look like for me, but I've been looking at the weight watchers ice cream bars and hoping that I can have something like that without gain. Sweets are definitely my downfall. I want to be able to enjoy some without going overboard. But I'll remind myself to be patient. This week I got to add in a fat at supper and none of them were even appealing but I really missed PB, so my counselor has me doing 1 Tbsp PB with my afternoon snack. 3 days in and no gain, so this makes me happy. It really helps me feel full longer in the afternoon, which is great since in the summer we tend to eat later.

tami-that is awesome. Can you share with a maintenance day looks like for you eating wise? I'm a week away and getting curious about exactly what I will be eating...I'm actually really satisfied with this level of food on this week of stabilization...if I could add in 50-100 calories of some kind of chocolate each day, I'd be a happy mama. (The MRC hot cocoa has been a life saver).

nwcgina
03-22-2012, 09:42 AM
1.5 lb to go! (if you look @ my ticker, it looks like I'm there, but I technically have 1.5 to go). Actually 150-155 is the range I want to stay, so 1.5 to get to the low end of my range. And that's with adding PB (and 60 cals of dark chocolate the past 2 days). This has so worked for me. And I think the key in transitioning is slowly adding in the foods to see how I react...both in cravings and weight. Cravings are kinda the biggest. And I haven't added in a variety of starches yet, still stickign with the 35 cal bread, melba toast, pinto beans, and recently did do crackers (40 cals of crackers isn't much). But oh I'm excited!

ynapier
03-22-2012, 10:32 AM
Congratulations Gina - all this maintenance talk is getting me even more motivated to get these last few pounds off.

Keep up the good work ladies.

patzi
03-22-2012, 11:32 AM
Gina...
If I can help you at any time, please feel free to ask.. I had the candy bar, and I will see.. Do you believe it did not taste as good as I was anticipating?
I can't believe I am saying this, but I did not finish it, but I had to throw it away, as I did not want it around. I got on scale after eating it foloowing day and was up one pound, but have until Tuesday to get it off, so not fretting over it. It is just a way of life. . Good luck to you and be proud of yourself, as you deserve it..

Patzi