Support Groups - Mama had a chicken, Mama had a cow...

Papa was proud, he didn't care how.

Remember when Cow became a model and everyone at school was always asking to be excused so they could go adjust their udder straps?

Absolutely nothing to report here. Did I mention that I was violently ill on Friday night? Could have been the entire bag of nacho cheese tortilla chips I ate, or maybe the mini pizzas. Or possibly the birthday cake. Ds10 followed in my footsteps yesterday and had to miss the Mardi Gras party at school today. He's feeling fine now. Too much birthday excitement I guess. Dh will be 41 tomorrow. Can you say mid-life crisis?

Dh will be 41 tomorrow. It only gets worse, Sugar, my DH will be 48 this year. 50 is looming close on the horizon. Thank goodness he's married to a sweet young thang. I'll keep him young. ;)

I'm embarrassed to say that I've never watched Chicken & Cow cartoons. :o My kids were raised w/ Sesame Street & Mr. Rogers. So sad Mr. Rogers passed away.

Bunco was a rousing success. My friend brought her 1 week old baby for us to admire before we started playing. Her DH took little baby Natalie home so mom got to have a night out w/ the girls. What a good Daddy. He's 50 and it's his very first child so he's totally in love w/ his daughter. So sweet.

I've been reading a book set in turn of the century England, so I keep saying things like rousing success, and jolly good. :dizzy:

WOW!!!Wabby!!!!------how old is your friend who has the one week old baby????------I NEED OPINIONS ON JOAN {GAG ME]LUNDEN'S LATEST ADVENTURE!!!!-----just what i want for my fifty second birthday---tWINS!!!!!!!! {old people shouldn't have babies hhs hhs hhs hhs hhs hhhhhhhhsssssssss}

Wabby, you mUst turn on the TV right now and watch Cow and Chicken. It is hilarious. The cow is big and fat and actually thinks she is cute...how close to home is that?????...not about you, you are cute. About me.
I think Peaches has had enough time to be sick. Make her stop.
I'm tired...were is June when I need her?

okay this is serious---i have ballooned up to 160 as of this morning---last fall i weighed 166 and i mangaged to starve down to 155 before christmas-----to be flabbering back up the scale is just sooooooooooo demoralizing---i MUST seek comradeship elsewhere if you tanks insist on talking about housecleaning all the live long day------LUSHTANK----- HOW MUCH TO YOU WEIGH AND WHAT DO YOU INTEND TO DO ABOUT IT?????????? i need MOTIVATION----again----WHERE IS JUNE???????? [by June i will weigh 205 at this rate]

I am going to give you girls a day to digest this, then I will delete this post. I THOUGHT I weighed 166 when I joined Curves.Imagine my horror when I saw 177 on the scale. That is what the Curves scale said. I am back into the 160's barely, but I am FAT< FAT< FAT. I can not carry all this weight..I am a size 16. If I buy my clothes at cheap stores, I need a W on it to carry my huge gut. Shame.
I think the cleaning thing is related...it is laziness and letting things go. My stress level hovers around a million and I often lose sight of the fact that there are many things I can do something about...like exercising, eating right and keeping my surroundings nice.
I find that now that I am eating right, again, I'm doing better at everything. I religiously get to Curves 3 times a week, I make it to my Mom's every day...she is so bad, it is horrible to watch. I'm not so angry at my siblings who have abandoned me in this situation completely, though I will never speak to them again when this is all over. True, she was difficult, but what kind of person can't put that aside when faced with this kind of horrible illness????? AND....my house is cleaner and more organized. Also, when I eat right, I have more energy and spend less time on this machine.
Here is my plan:
1. low carb eating
2.exercise 3Xweek
3. one large cleaning task daily and maintenance
4. Get at least 8 hours sleep
5. Nothing but veggies after dinner
I believe that it is impossible to fix the weight thing without fixing the other stuff that contributes to it.

I've been at this for about a month and a half...I've gotten out of the 170's which on me look like 400 lbs because I am so small boned. When all four of our parents and my brother were sick, I really ballooned up. I used to think the 150's were tubbo...but when I got back into the 150's about a year ago, I was happy, though I should be way under that, I still look very heavy at 150, but only below the waist...above the waist I look fine..but sooner or later I have to stand up.
No one else seems interested in talking about tubbo issues here......you may say..."that never stops you any other time"...true...I am the Queen Bore, but I bore other people about how fat I am. I bore you about what a slob I am. I'm willing to bore you about how fat I am, too,....just ask.

We need Cherry here every day to keep us on track.
Bagzie, what is your plan?????? You must share it and we should keep talking about it, but we don't....we never do.

Why I haven't been talking about it. I haven't been talking about it because I haven't been doing anything about it. And I'm so embarrassingly fat again, I feel overwhelmed. And when I feel overwhelmed I just eat more of all the things that I tell myself I shouldn't eat. Case in point: Yesterday I weighed in at 164 (Yikes!!!!) which was up 3 pounds from last week. So after giving myself the usual berating, I went in to work, but stopped at the drug store for DH's quit smoking nicotine patches, and they had Cadbury LARGE chocolate bars on sale 2 for 1. So I bought 2 and ate one for breakfast, then nibbled on the 2nd one after my lunch of a huge greasy "Colossal Burger" from Burgerville (a local burger place that specializes in mayonaisey, greasy burgers) w/ fries. Then I blew off going to Curves (haven't gone all week) and DH and I went to Costco, where we bought pizza for dinner. The entire day I was saying mean things to myself and feeling horrible. It's like I want to feel horrible. So that's why I haven't talked about it. Now that you've got me started you may be sorry, because it really is all I think about all day. I'm obsessed.

Bagzie, my friend is only 38. I used to think that was old to be having babies, but now that I'm 46, on the brink of 47, it seems pretty young. Re: Joan Lunden - I think she should have bought a dog like Lush's. Easier on everyone concerned.

Everyone should buy a dog like mine. She is so cute...except when she chewed the edge of the rug...that wasn't so cute.
I found a new cleaning board. I think I will dump you guys as cleaning companions....you aren't very good at it. I will have to see if you make decent dieting companions. I know you're great "killing time" companions....that was a complement.
My Curves friends are my dieting companions. I hate to point this out ...but we NEVER succeed in dieting together. Could now be the change?...when I first came here...in 199whatever, I was normal sized and would have thought it inconceivable that I would ever be this much of a porker. Now I am a fat old cow. Coincidence? I think not. I notice that I started to gain weight around the time that June and Alexa left us....and what about that Cranberry girl...did she make me fat?
I am making healthy broccoli for lunch. And, not that it's any of your business, but I cleaned my fridge with my new cleaning friends. Now I'm going to clean my bathroom, with them, not you.
Wabby, I don't like chocolate...aren't I lucky? My DH is my worst influence. I keep saying to him that he should be more motivated to keep me out of places...like Costco...that are anti-diet.
I had a baby at 38. It hurt.
He's 11 now, he's really opinionated. My other two kids are so easy...what went wrong?
I'm tired...I will not let it bring me down. I will, I swear, do my bathroom. Right now. Right now
bye

We had a big heavy wet-snow snowstorm Sunday and lost our power at 2 in the morning -- it was out until 11 PM last night. What a pain!

Goo-ness, Sugar, you're supposed to leave the eating-junk-until-you're-sick to the birthday boys! I sure hope nobody else gets sick :eek: -- can you say Board of Health :lol: Good luck on the impending spousal mid-life crisis. Unfortunately what comes after that stage seems to be eternal childhood, not a return to normalcy :rolleyes: . I've decided to go through mid-life crisis too. Women, of course, can choose when to do this, unlike men. Suggestions are welcome on themes for mine...

I have to pick up DD and take her to a family wake by myself. One of DH's uncles died. DH is probably not going to show up until after we leave (Mr Important has a meeting). Yuk. I hate these things. I'm only staying about 5 minutes, do you think anyone'll notice? I was going to wear my very comfortable long black knit dress with a blazer over it, but now I'm thinking "who cares what I wear--I'm only staying 5 minutes" :lol: Gad, I'm an awful person, aren't I?

I will also be 48 this year, Wabbit. Horrifying, isn't it?

Okay, Lush, who are your new cleaning friends? Not that I want to join them, I just want to know for pure nosiness' sake.

I think we could probably survive some serious weight talk around here. I don't have time right now. Gotta go put something black on. Will rant about my weight later.

Kiwi

Nobody expects you to hang around a wake, do they? Maybe if it is your family...but I think that if your DH can take his own sweet time getting to his own family's event...you should not feel bad about staying a short time.
I ate a muffin. After all this talk, I ate a muffin. Why?
I'm cleaning my bathroom. You know, my house is really dirty. Not obvious dirty, but deep down dirty. I think it may be because I haven't really cleaned it since my mom moved to NJ almost two years ago. That could do it.
I have two hours until I pick up DD at school. I should make the most of it. bye

Don't blame me for your fat, Lush. I don't think it has a thing to do with hanging around here. I wouldn't have been able to yo-yo down to the 140's if that was the case. In fact, I've been down to the extreme lower 140's with you cows. Now I can understand needing the proper motivating group for cleaning. That's a whole different kettle of fish. At this moment, my house is actually in pretty good shape, but that's only because DS moved out along with his endless laundry. I have the best situation, because I see him every day at work, but I'm not responsible for his personal maintenance. Every mother's dream.

Kiwi, losing power is a nightmare. I hate it. It's soooo boring. How do you keep warm w/ no electricity? Why aren't you waiting until your DH goes to the wake and go with him? I hate going to DH's family gatherings w/o him. Even though I've been a part of his family since I was 16. eeeek.

So if we're going to get serious about losing weight, how are we going to go about it? Or are we just each going to make their own plan and report back? Somebody tell me. I have no will of my own.

I weighed in at 165.5 this morning. Time to get serious.

Bagzie! Remember right at the beginning of WLB on Cybermon when we actually weighed 147 or something? What gives?

Lush, you will reap great rewards for taking care of your mom like that. You are a good person. And your dog is very cute.

Hey Wabby! I know exactly where you're coming from.

Hope you had a bearable time at the wake, Kiwi.

At least my dog is cute. Sugar, I don't remember what I weighed when we first started, but I know that I was a normal size....maybe 12.
Wabby, I am so mad at you. What kind of friend are you? I can so blame you for my fat. It is all your fault. Like today, for instance. I read in your earlier message......."Lee...eat a muffin, eat a muffin, eat a muffin...." I heard you say that. I thought you had my best interest at heart, so I did what you said. I am nothing if not compliant.
Would it be possible to agree on a plan?
I've laid out my plan.....What is everyone else doing? I'll switch to what you're doing if it includes eating anything I want.
Kiwi, poor you. I hate to lose power. We have a generator that will run things enough to get us through...but we never lose it for more than 4-6 hours at a time. I can't imagine all those days. I would have to check into the Holiday Inn.
I'm not sure if I like my new cleaning people. They are all SAHMs...you know, the ones who do it as a religion.
AND they aren't funny. I really don't like people who aren't funny.
We had a leak in the basement today and there is about 4 inches of water down there right now. I don't feel that in within the responsibility of a person who cleaned the fridge and got partway through the bathroom before the water shorted out the electricity and turned off my steamer.
Have I told you how much I LOVE my steamer?????
So, I have to get back off sugar. I ate it over the weekend and you see??????? I find myself eating huge muffins on Tuesday afternoons...no self-respect.
Peaches should feel better now. I hope Kiwi did OK at the wake. I hope they had food and a bar. It cheers the event.
L

i am truly CHASTENED after all this heartfelt conversation-------i feel terrible that i have not noticed how stresse you are lushie!!!!! after all the death ,sickness and mayhem around here you think i would have sympathy for others!!!!!! SORRY!!! very sorry!!!!! sugar is right---you will be rewarded somehow,someday---and your mother is very lucky to have such a sweet daughter-------unfortunately i am at the stage that Wabby is at----i feel TERRIBLE about my weight,but every day i practice sabotage! it can be the fruit and nut bar,or just the extra cheese i eat when i am feeding my boy------- i am trying to blame it on the weather {sOOOOOOOOOo freezing and sssooooooooo much snow,but it is just low grade depression that feeds on itself---------i know that if i can just get a leg up like lush has managed i will be okay,but for the time being i am just lucky to stay this fat and not get fatter------------to be continued and again---sorry for being so selfish{ tell me where your cleanie friends are located ,operator { operator} information {information} get me Jesus on the linnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeee!!!!! I WILL GET PEACHERS BACK HERE,SHE IS FEELING DOWN!

Don't feel bad about gaining weight, Bagzie. Blame Wabby. I think it is surely all her fault. With her son out of the house, she needs people to blame her for their own mistakes. Who better than we?
They aren't cleanies...they are messies who need to make idiot lists, like I do. EXCEPT for having names like Lush or Bagz, they use Psalms 33:22 or HISCHILD....bad sign. Did you ever notice that excessively religious people are fatter and slobbier than we are?
Gotta go.

i thought you liked me......booooo hoooooooooo hhs hhs hhs hhs-----i think we all sound a little more melancholic,----holly rollers at least know they are going to heaven-----did you know that we are all on a big spinning ball in the middle of blackness???{oh,i think i mentioned that before} oh well----if you look at it that way----what's the harm in a little blubb around the tub??? we will all meet agin at the great glory meetin in the sky lord in the sky----and St.Dusty will be sangin and sangin to the high heavens {do you ever find that some holy rollers are VERY skinny and prim looking as well???:mad:

Au contraire, I think most holy rollers live in a constant state of insecurity as to whether they've been adequately cleansed. It is so much easier being a Catholic. Nobody expects us to be good. What are you giving up for Lent, Bagzie?
Yes, there are some skinny holy rollers...but they aren't on slob-o boards. They are more self-righteous, don't you think?
Enough of the sweeping generalizations that insult 25,000 people in one sentence. I prefer to pick on Wabby, who made me fat. Did I tell you my basement flooded yesterday? A pipe burst and water was EVERYWHERE. What a mess. It prevented me from cooking. Shame.
Now I must get these kids out of the house. bye

it is the Spring Break here and of course it is storming out and the ds is disgruntled about his boring "holiday"-----do we hags get a "spring break" and WHEN does this fabled spring actually arrive----Peachers says she has nothing much to say,thus she is silent-------i tole her that never stopped her before----i am afraid if you want her back,you will need to issue personal invitations via email---i did my best.

I accept all responsibility for all of you getting to be tubbos like me. I've been feeding you all subliminal messages for years. You caught me on the muffin message, Lush. And until I started in on Bagzie, she didn't even like margies, much less all those chips & salsa I told her to scarf down. And I was the one telling Sugar to make those little sausagey thingies on the sandwich maker. She never even thought of it before I subliminally put it in her head. I wonder if Kiwi ate the entire buffet at the wake yesterday, like I told her to? I had to do it. You all would have gotten skinny and I'd be the only blubber belly in the herd.

Peaches, you know that having nothing to talk about has nothing to do with posting. Just like eating has nothing to do with being hungry.

thank you wabby for owning up to your transgressions---i think that kiwi is still at the buffet---reminds me of a friend of my sisters who went to a weight loss coach who asked him what he craved the most---and he said---"buffets"----he was quite the tractor trailor. i myself am only a bus,i was a van,on my way to a semi-

I am moved and touched by Wabby's humility She is an inspiration. I'm sure it is muffin time, but I'm out of muffins, so I will eat lunch and go to Bulges instead. Then I will pick up DS11 from Art. Then I will bring him home to do his homework. Then I will pick up DD at play practice and take her to physical therapy. Then I will pick up DS12 and take him to the dentist. Then I will pick up DD at physical therapy and take her to my mother's. Then I will pick up DS at the dentist. Then I will pick up DD at my mother's and we'll all come home. Around that time, DH will get home and wonder why I haven't cooked dinner. I wonder, too. Maybe I'll go to the store in between and get a Stouffer's Lasangna and throw it in the oven...what a whiz I am.
My cleaning group is going great. They are just like our old cleaning group..they just say what they did and move on. None of this fooling around with subliminal messages and the like.
Now I must go clean my car before I leave.
Kiwi, get away from that buffet!!!
L

I'm so hurt. We've asked Lush for directions to her cleaning group, but apparently she's afraid we'll crash her party and out her to all her new neat-nik friends. You can tell us Lush, we'd never go there and tell them that you have dust on the tops of your window sills.

The problem I have at my Curves is that I haven't made friends there. Nobody talks. They just get in a circle, exercise and try to avoid eye contact. Except the owner, who talks enough for everyone and acts like she's my long lost buddy. When I came back after surgery she insisted on hugging me even though I was all sweaty. And her voice annoys me. And that is my excuse why I don't exercise. Pretty lame.

My walking friend is all done w/ chemo and has asked me if I want to start walking at 6:30 AM!!!!! again. How in the world did I used to do that? My motivation level is at rock bottom.

I don't think Wabbit's making me fat! I'm pretty sure it is JUNE'S fault! I need someone to harangue me about stuff and make me feel guilty for not going to bed at a reasonable hour!

So anyway, the wake was at the funeral home, and there was coffee, but certainly not food or a bar! Plus, don't forget this is DH's family, so even after the funeral, at the home where everyone gathered, I couldn't have even a single beer because OOH we wouldn't want to drink in front of DH's parents, would we? :rolleyes: AND -- I didn't eat much of anything from the buffet table. I hadn't had any dinner because I'd had to drive DD to her guitar lesson right after we left the wake and when we got back, I had to change my clothes and go right to the funeral. So, at 8:30 I was looking forward to having something from the good ol' buffet table. The only things there besides sweets were those horrible bullet shaped sandwiches, so I chose a ham salad one and it was so bad I didn't have the slightest interest in eating anything else. I did eat a small square of peanut butter fudge, but that was just self-preservation, you could hardly call it overeating. So Wabbit's messages just aren't working here! Maybe it's all the snow--it muffles sound. Right now it's snowing like crazy!

I want you to know that I have not gained weight since I met you clowns, although I haven't really lost any either. However I have to say that my house has indeed gone downhill. But then I think it would have anyway. In fact, maybe if I gave it a good push, it would go all the way down the hill and fall in the lake.

DH is annoying me. He got the car fixed today, so that was good. But he brought home a chicken and bunch of other food to make dinner with. And he wants to cook. Knowing what always happens ("how do I do this? how long does this take? etc.") I went in and started working on it with him when he told me all these things he wanted to put in with the chicken. And I said some of these things weren't going to work, so he bit my head off and did that annoying throwing in the towel sh**, so I told him he'd better do the whole thing, and I came in here and got on the computer. Anyway I have cramps. Who needs the aggravation? And what's that strange smell coming from the kitchen? Do I have to eat this dinner?

Bagz! You stopped typing in caps! Are you allright? ;)

Peachie, we miss you!

Bummer about the basement flooding, Lush. I hope it gets cleared up quickly (and I hope you don't have to go down there in hip waders and do anything yourself!)

Kiwi

Hello!

I'm glad Peachie is okay...

Lushie, I'm sorry you're so stressed! I'm glad the lifestyle changes are helping.

I think I have all y'all beat when it comes to weight gain since I found you. Almost 50 pounds. I was somewhere between 145 and 150, and ever so fat at size almost-ten. In February, I averaged 185. (My goal for the month was to reach 175. Instead, I gained weight.) I'm also medium- to small-boned and I look absolutely awful at this weight.

It's Lent, though. That's always good for me. I'm giving up sugar again.

Hey, I know, I'll post my workout plans for March! (I worked out 24 days in February.)

Sunday: Endurance weight-lifting (Cathe Friedrich, Cross Train Express weight segments)
Monday: 25 minutes run/walk (goal: to do 15 minutes in a row @about a 10 minute mile pace.) Pilates Abs
Tuesday: 25 minutes run/walk, Pilates hips
Wednesday: Heavy weight-lifting (Cathe's Pure Strength upper body)
Thursday: 25 minutes run/ walk, Pilates thighs
Friday: 25 minutes run/walk
Saturday: Step Interval Tape

Rest days as needed. 40 minutes of walking each weekday.

I know you're fascinated.

actually we are facinated----we have never heard of such things as twenty four day workouts---i have worked out at least 24 days since i met you all in 1998----wabby i am with you----let's hack lushie's computer and find out where in holy rollerville she is posting.gotta go to glass me *** class.

I would let you know where my cleanies are, Wabby. http://www.webforums.com/forums/z-read/msa129.16.html_p2307-41fj
Don't tell any of the difficult people, OK? This will be my little gift to you since you've been so sweet about taking the blame for me being such a porker.
Walk in the AM? I don't get it.
We have an annoying person at Bulges, too. Her name is Cissy. She tries to bring up current events, new health information, etc while we are exercising. Everyone just ignores her.
I have to feed people. L

But only because I have those killer stomach cramps and all that go with them. bleh. Must be the Panama Flu.

I knew it was you, Wabby! Had that broken sandwich machine for years and then suddenly had to go buy a new one *just* so I could make those fatty sausage thingies. But I forgive you because you are so sweet. :D

Now, in order to avoid Wabby's subliminal messages, every time we are about to stuff something into our mouths, we should stop for a minute and think: WWJD? No, not *that* J, the *other* one, as in... What Would June Do? I'm going to go out and get a bumper sticker right now.

Only Cherry has mentioned what she'd giving up for lent. Sugar sounds good but I don't think I could do it.

Cherry - you are a wonder woman. Keep posting!

HI Sugar,
I'm giving up Sugar. And I'm going through sugar withdrawl, which means stay out of my way! I'm cranky.
I'm cleaning....15 min at a time, at my new cleaning place. So far I've done ds11's room and vac'd dd's room. I've done wash and since my kitchen was already clean, I didn't have to do that. I'm a wonder. Maybe I'm giving up sloth for Lent.
Nah.
Cherry,24 days...whew...you're making me tired. I'm proud of you, you're so disciplined.
Now I'm off to shift wash then move on to my next 15 minutes.
bye

welllllllllllllllll----i gave up chips but then i hardly ever have them since i am so fat----maybe we should DO something instead of giving up----how about we say the rosary on the treadmill every day!!!! my cleaning lady is washing down the kitchen walls------isn't she sweet!!!

rosary on treadmill....how inspiring.
I'm going out to get myself a decent lunch and a new book on tape. bye

do you buy these books on tape or rent them??? i am thinking about the treadmill today---this could really happen,shocking as it may seem----last night i was totally disgusted with my gut---- i have been to your cleaning forum before ---through the flylady link------i never posted though----are you posting or just reading for inspiration???????????????????????

I'm boring them with what I think I'll do, then I"m not doing it...sound familiar?
They are very focused,,,,,,,,it is good for me.
I will go to Bulges today.
I get my books on tape at the library.
Do that treadmill....I don't want any fat friends when I am a bulges success.

It took so long for me to get to this page, I forgot where I was. :lol:

I'm not going to exercise again until DH goes back to work. I'm on strike (we're entering the 2nd month of this strike). Unfortunately I don't have a clue when that will be. I could be pretty out of shape by then. Oh well, can't be helped. Not doing it. Final decision. That doesn't preclude outdoor stuff -- if I could be persuaded to go skiing or snowshoeing, that would be acceptable (it will be at least a month or more before I can take an actual walk because of all the snow).

Wabbit, did you get snow today? I heard they got something like 2 feet of snow in parts of the NW.

I am 2 for 2 on items I've auctioned off at eBay. Gotta go get some more things listed. Making big bucks. Oh yeah. So far almost $7.00 :rolleyes:

Oh Peachie, I'm typing in peach colors -- won't you come talk to us?

Kiwi

My husband took some time off last year to do work on the house. It was horrible. He had opinions about things and thought I would want to hear them. He always interfered with my naps. Poor Kiwi. I think you should join a gym to get away from the house. I don't know how you're doing it. Has there been any talk about you guys taking off in the sailboat? After all this forced togetherness, I'm sure that doesn't look so attractive.
This is ridiculous that Peaches has dumped us. We're so much fun.
I'm still cleaning. I'm throwing things away. Lots of things. I should sell them at ebay...but I don't want to. I'm lazy, remember?
I might head out to my family room next...or I might take a shower and say bag-it for the day. Who knows?
L

Poor Kiwi. I don't know how you do it. DH has been working in the office all morning and we've just about snapped each other's heads off several times. I couldn't stand it if he were hanging around me 24/7. For one thing, if he had any idea how much time I waste on this puter he'd be shocked. I'm really going to try to actually get my office organized and start treating this like a real job. If I could get things under control, I might not mind having someone come in a few days a week to give me a break. DS is no longer on light duty here. I had been having him answer phones for me for the month he was healing his arm. I was really getting used to having some time to do what I wanted to do. Now I'm back here doing what I don't want to do. I think I'm getting depressed again. Guess I'll have to go have some sort of surgery so I can have a break.

Kiwi, of course we had no snow. The snow was up in the mountains. We are here in the Willamette valley which hasn't gotten one single flake all winter. The snow in the mountains is a big deal, though because the water for the city of Portland comes from the Cascade range snow pack, and if they don't get enough snow, it means drought in the summer. Congrats on your ebay sales - my DS has sold a ton of stuff and made big $$$'s. He sells car parts & has actually found 2 buyers for cars off the internet. His last one was his '97 Mitsubishi Eclipse convertible that he sold to a guy in Canada. He bought it from photos only, and had money wired to DS's account, then paid a fortune to get it through customs. Amazing. I couldn't imagine paying big money for something I hadn't actually driven.

I'm not Catholic. Should I give up something for Lent anyway?

Cherry, I always feel like such a whiner when I hear how much you exercise. You deserve a big loss. Just doesn't seem right that you have to struggle so hard and you're so dedicated. I know exactly what my problem is - I eat all the wrong things, way to much of them, and sit around contemplating what kind of excuse I can come up with to get out of exercising.

Bagzie, tell your cleaning lady that I've always thought it was easier to just paint. Of course then she wouldn't be your cleaning lady. She would be your painter.:dizzy:

Sugar, don't worry. I won't give you up for Lent.

I'm off to see what Lushie and her friends are doing around the house today.

You haven't left us because I annoyed you, have you Peach?

i tole that old peachpit that you are all whining for her to get back----hopefully she will get off her sickbed and come back and whine

My parents are celebrating their 43rd wedding anniversary today. Yikes. Mummy told me she got Dad a funny card. On the outside it says "I married Mr. Right" an on the inside it says "But I didn't know his first name was Always!":D Ain't Hallmark grand?

I miss Peachers!:o

I'm eating a healthy breakfast. Two slices of whole wheat toast, banana, pile o' grapes, glass o' water. Oh yeah, and those two itty bitty pancakes that ds6 didn't finish this morning.

MY dh is working late today. He usually gets off at 1 p.m. on Fridays so he can come home and get on my nerves a couple hours earlier than usual. But he's actually very nice and I still wouldn't trade him in for a newer model. Too much work.

her royalty has informed that she will be returning next week----here is the directive------------------So maybe next week. Tell everyone that I have joined a Reverend Moon commune and ds is now married to a 36-year-old wife hand-picked by the Rev. Moon. We are happy. He is living in Utah. I do the Reverend's wash. Life is good. Once a week, the Reverend lets me wash and iron his linens. He is so kind.

At least someone is getting the laundry done.

Gotta go, ds10 wants to fiddle around at eBay.

Sugar, that was the same card I gave DH last year. I don't think he thought it was nearly as funny as I did. :lol:

We're finally getting a proper Oregon winter here. It's cold and the rain is coming down in buckets.

I finally have my inspiration for losing weight (like I need a reason other than these cottage cheese thighs and the thought of summer shorts season) ---- I have a Dr. appt on May 8 with the boobie specialist to see what he's going to do about them. I'm going to have 15 pounds off by then. I weigh 164 as of this morning. I should be able to lose 15 pounds in 2 months, right????? I want to be in the under 150 range by then. Now to figure out how I'm going to do it....

I can believe the doing the laundry part, I'm just having a hard time w/ the thought of Peaches ironing.....

I just realized that I never posted today. How will you guys sleep tonight without being bored to sleep by me droning on about myself.
I am getting my house together. Finally. It was really bad. Dirty. I had, easily, 50 feet of trash this morning. It stretched from the mail box all the way across to the first tree. In my Cybermom clean-up, I did better but that was different because my house looked cluttered and messy. This time, my house isn't cluttered and messy looking. It is just dirty where I can see it.
Overall, the diet is going well. I went to Curves yesterday. I should probably do something on my off days. Walk? I hate to walk. When I walk I see neighbors and they want to be friendly and talk....I am bothered by that. I would rather just endure my walk and get home.
Wabby, do you really think we could lose 15 lbs in two months? How are we going to do this? Please advise. I'm having pizza for dinner....is that the way?
Enjoy your Friday without opinions, Sugar. My husband is a sweetheart, too. I always used to say that I married him because he is the only person I ever met who never got on my nerves. I don't say that anymore, but he's still pretty good. I wish he'd get bald to compensate for not getting fat. I feel it would complement my waddle.
I'm looking at the word complement I wonder if I spelled it right..oh well, who cares.
What kind of paint would I use to paint over vinyl wallpaper?
Please advise.
Bagzie, did Peaches get a job at the Washington Star...does Rev Moon still own that? Wonder what they pay?
I'm off to clean up from my latest project. bye

Latex paint. Preferably in a semi-gloss.

Oh, I'm so glad that Peachie finally found the right man for her... And I had been worried that DS would arrive at his 16th birthday being unmarried. I know what an outcast that would make him in Dogpatch, so this is quite a relief. An older woman will be very educational for him, plus if she dies in childbirth with her 10th or 12th baby, he can acceptably move back to Dogpatch and find some sweet 12 year old to replace her.

You're quite right, Lush, I wouldn't have slept not knowing what you'd been doing all day. Your housecleaning methods are too complicated for me to understand, however. How did you pack up a houseful of dirt into 50 feet of trash bags? Sounds quite magical to me.

Walk? I hate to walk. When I walk I see neighbors and they want to be friendly and talk....I am bothered by that. I would rather just endure my walk and get home.
You have neighbors??? Wow. And, oh yes, you spelled complement right. And I care. Because I'm a nit-picker and a perfectionist.

I actually went snowshoeing yesterday. It was mind-boggling. There is so much snow out there, I was exhausted and out of breath before I left the yard! The shallowest snow was about 3 feet. And beside the railroad tracks some of the snowbanks were 10 feet high! I went about 25 minutes and turned back. My legs were like jelly. Phew.

Good luck with the 15 lbs, Wabbit. I think you can do it. Especially if you start getting up at 6:30 to go walking. Now if we were all eating healthy like Sugar (:drill: Put DOWN the pancakes!), we could all lose 15 lbs, dontcha think?

Does anyone want to hear how messed up my diet is?

Kiwi

we could all lose 15 lbs, dontcha think?

Yep. I think we could. Now we just need to do it. I think we could do it by snow shoeing every day for 25 minutes. Why do you need to exercise indoors when you have all that lovely snow outside, Kiwi? Now please tell me how messed up your diet is.

Lush, you know that I'm fascinated with your house cleaning, because my house is of the picked up, but grungy underneath it all variety. How do you get a clean house? And don't tell me to hire Bagzie's cleaning lady.

Y'all are so sweet! Wabby, I know you can do it! I'll at least join you in trying! I did my 15 minute treadmill run/walk and some Pilates today. I'm a little off because of losing a day when we went up to Kansas City to get the laptop.

Good to hear Peachy is doing well. Is she still doing that detox thing?

I've clicked on the cleanie forum... but wanted to post this before I got distracted.

Hi Cherry! What Pilates stuff do you do? Do you have any equipment or are you using a tape? I bought a Pilates book, but by the time I was through reading it, I couldn't figure out much of anything I could do without taking a class or buying equipment.

We watched a video tonight -- City by the Sea with Robert deNiro and Frances McDormand. Not bad. Not great. So-so. Kind of like a TV cop show with better acting :s:

DD is going snow-tubing again tomorrow. She had a blast last time she went. Costs $10 and the ski mountain provides a big tube to ride on and a tow rope and separate hill for tubing. Personally I'd rather read a book, but the kids love it.

Kiwi

Wabby and Cherry, I'm in. Cherry, if you're going to do this 15lb challenge with us, you have to come around. We should post how we're doing on each aspect of our program....exercise and diet. I'm also trying to make sure I get enough sleep.
I want to go to June 18, my 49th birthday. That gives me 10 extra days, which I need because I'm an old saggy hag.
Here is how I clean. I have a 6.5hp shop vac. It pulls the color out of rugs, it is so strong. I have my new steamer, which is supposed to work without cleaners, but not here. I need chemicals to get anything to budge. I spray...usually 409 but sometimes The Works or cleanser, then steam and scrub with the little brush on the steamer then I suck it all up with the vac. This place was filthy... I'm 80% finished. Now it is just 20% filthy. In the process of doing that, anything that is in my way, I throw out. Hence the 50 ft.
I threw out Bob Dylan's Tarantula. I haven't read it since 1971...I don't think I'm going to be looking to it as a reference. I threw out Ram Das' Be Here Now I did read that in 1972 but due to circumstances at the time, I don't remember it. So, it is gone. I threw out 2,999,770,790,699 get-organized books and 3,592,384,297,593 diet books. I could have sold them on 1/2.com or ebay, I could have given them to a worthy cause, but I didn't. I'm lazy. I bought four new trash cans just so I could throw away stuff that I will never use again. Like size 6 clothes. I kept my mother's and grandmother's fur coats...why? My mother's arms are at least 4 inches shorter than mine and my grandmother's were 6 inches shorter. Not that I would wear these dry rotted pieces of dead animal. But it just seemed wrong to uncerimoniously throw them out with diet books. I thought I would give them to my mom's aide, but how would I feel if a PETA person threw red paint on her for wearing fur?
I do live in a neighborhood, the houses are far apart, but those other people are still here. I don't like to talk to them. For example, Patty up the street: I know her kid deals drugs..should I tell her? Linda and Gina are boring...worse than me. Aleta is a former tenant and many years ago I evicted her with her four kids. She doesn't hold this against me, but I feel it is awkward. She lives in Gina's house. Should I tell Gina that in the end she stiffed me and left the place in a condition that violates even my standards of housekeeping? There is a group of men on this street who have lived on here for 80+ years. I like them, but once they get talking, I'm finished. You see?
I'm tired, but the dog laid on my comforter while she was wet from being outside. I had to wash it..now it is in the dryer. I can't sleep without it. I got it at Walmart and it must have some weird kind of polyester in it because it allows no cold air to get near my cozy little self. I used to sleep with 33 blankets trying to keep warm, but now I have this one thing that I paid $12. and it keeps me warm. I'm thrilled. My (not in this case so) dh sleeps with a ceiling fan on so I'm always cold. But when I tried to sleep without the fan I discovered that stale air is worse than being cold. Now both problems are solved...happy ending.
June would not approve of my disrespect for the sleep rule. Please don't tell her.

This time we can do it!! My birthday is May 25th. That should be doable. Still feeling queasy - lost 4 lbs - it's only water but who cares. Can't decide what the official start weight should be.

My house is messy *and* filthy right now. I'll never get it right.

Oh, the posterboard top hat was a grand success. I'm thinking of going into business.

Now I will either go clean something, or I'll lay on the couch and read a magazine.

Me too, me too! (I'm just a big copycat)

Originally posted by SugP
Can't decide what the official start weight should be.

My house is messy *and* filthy right now. I'll never get it right.

Oh, the posterboard top hat was a grand success. I'm thinking of going into business.


My philosophy is that your most recent "high point" is your starting weight. Thus, I am counting the 6 pounds that I lost within the past few weeks as part of my 15. Not fair? Hmmpph. As we all know, it could all come back in a fit of Doritos and beer, so I think it's fair enough.

I'm with you, Sugar, my house is messy and filthy too. And if I sit here and look at the computer screen, I can hardly see any of it. Good job on the top hat project. Isn't it fun to do that stuff? One year I made crowns for all the kids at dd's party by meticulously cutting out posterboard in intricate designs. What a job. Then the kids decorated them. I always spend too much time on these things. At least birthday parties get easier as they get older.

I am reading about a very interesting school lunch program they began in Wisconsin 5 years ago (click here) (http://www.beachbody.com/jump.jsp?itemID=147&itemType=CONTENT&path=29) . You should all read about it. Maybe if we followed a plan like this, we could not only lose weight, but we could get SANE!

Here's the horror of my diet:
The primary problem is my schedule, which is so messed up I have doubts it will ever straighten out. I get up at 7:00 AM, make lunch for DD and walk her up the driveway to the bus stop, bring the newspaper back, make coffee, and eat cereal with skim milk, and orange juice and coffee. So far so good. Then I read or watch TV until DH gets up, at which time I go to bed! I nap for hours to make up for the sleep I lost the night before, then I get up, skip lunch, drink more coffee, get on the computer, do about 1/10 of the housework I intended to do, make dinner, ferry DD around and crash in front of the TV to compete with DH for biggest couch potato. Then, when all good girls should be in bed, I start eating. Leftovers, popcorn, sweets, cheese and crackers, chips, salami, whatever I can scrape together. When I'm good and full and exhausted, I get ready for bed, get the d/w going, and...get on the computer. Occasionally I get to bed by 2. Usually not. On weekends, I just skip the 7:00 am/breakfast part and stay in bed until 11.

Isn't that just awful? Pathological. I really was planning a transformation in January, with my new exercise program. I was going to have more energy, go to bed earlier, and eat healthier. That was before the invasion of the DH. So I've done none of those things, and sleeping half the day is how I'm coping with him being around 110% of the time.

The good news is that I actually only eat 3 "meals" a day, which I guess is why I've lost some weight recently. Dinner, midnight snack, breakfast. I suppose if I just made midnight snack an actual meal, with real, healthy food instead of junk, I might even be ahead of the game. But eating 2 meals before bedtime, that's got to be some major bad idea, right?

Oh he**. Aren't you glad you asked?

Kiwi

Do you drink? Nowhere did you mention drinking all night. And there are no other men. That's good. How about crack? No crack, you aren't a drug addict. No, you're doing fine. I don't think there is a thing wrong with your scenerio. You get your kid to wherever she needs to go and you stay out of your husband's way. Isn't that really all that is asked of us?
Sugar, be happy for me...I have the stomach virus, too! This will be a great boost on my 15 and there is no moral dilemma because my body was considerate enough to get sick after the 15 pound challenge was issued. I am the luckiest person I know.
My new cleaning board is closed..do you believe it? I joined Organized Home for today, but it isn't the same. These people seem organized...at my old/new board they were as bad as me...well probably not.
I'm going to go get some rubbermaid containers and finish DS11's room by shoving everything he owns into opaque bins and stuffing them in the back of his closet. I'm a natural.
Gotta go do something, virus or not.
L

Hello! So, are all of us trying to lose 15 pounds by when? Mid-May? Mid-June? Anywhere between mid-May and mid-June? My goal date for my goal weight was DH's birthday, June 15, but that ain't gonna happen.

Kiwi, I laughed so hard at your diet! Hehe! The Pilates tapes I do are by The Method-- Precision Toning and Target Specifics. They don't need any equipment. That equipment scares me.

My schedule looks like:
Wake up at 4am
Drink coffee until 6am, when I have time to nuke a bowl of oatmeal (no sugar)
Handful of nuts or pretzels at 9am
Lunch at 11:30am, with DH, usually leftovers or peanut butter sandwiches
Workout at 1pm
Spoonful of peanut butter & some toast
Dinner at 7pm
Bed at 10pm

NO SLEEP!! I would have to go to bed at 7pm to get enough sleep, but that's when DH gets home from work.

Lush, you are lucky to become sick after the challenge was issued. DH is sick now, so I might be as lucky soon.

I'd better go. We're going to the park with the kids and the dogs, so that will count as today's workout.

Thanks for your support, dahlings! Really, you're the best. You make me feel like less of a freak.

The latest on the homefront: DD's gone with her friends until late, so DH and I were going to watch a movie: The Importance of Being Earnest with Rupert Everett, Colin Firth and Reese Witherspoon. We got into it about 20 minutes and I started hearing noise in the kitchen. I tried to ignore it (hey, it could be the cats playing. Or the wind. Or um....) but we had to go take a look. The ceiling has a steady leak again -- this time it is coming out through the light fixture! This strikes me as both dangerous and depressing. DH thought it was funny. But he decided to go up on the roof and shovel some more snow -- it's been melting today, so a lot of water is trapped up with the snow.

Wish us luck.

Kiwi

I'm telling June. Cherry is only getting 6 hrs sleep a night.
We've had water through the light fixtures. Dh didn't laugh, but he didn't shovel snow off the roof, either. That sounds hard.
I'm doing the challenge to Mid-June. Paul's and my birthday is June 18. We'll have a quiet day remembering George.
I'm going to go look at what Kiwi is selling.
What is the Beverly Hills Diet? I don't think I ever tried that one.
I am throwing out books. Wasn't it nice of Kiwi to make me feel guilty and lazy for throwing my books away?
Now I'm going to bed. June is serious about this. Don't make her come here to supervise you, Cherry.

Oh heck, I've had most of those books for sale for about 2 years. You are not lazy; you are smart. AND your house is not full of books you don't want, waiting for someone to offer to pay you a quarter for them. I'm a twit.

Right now I'm putting more stuff on eBay. It takes me hours to list something.

Kiwi