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JellyMae87
02-04-2012, 04:30 PM
Alright ladies. It's was that time again!! Last thread reached over 560 posts!!


Paint Lady
02-04-2012, 05:13 PM
Seems like it was just yesterday when you started the other one. I didn't realize we were so chatty. Thanks!

woolberger
02-04-2012, 06:19 PM
JellyMae - Thanks for starting the new thread. I was wondering if Suzanne 3FC would shut us down.

Sunnymae, Gika & BigPassport - I have been following your reboots and you all really inspired me to do it. Thanks for posting your experiences. I find when I am struggling, I lurk but don't post. It helped to see that this can be done. I will continue to post more often.

Cap - Thanks for nudging me. I notice when you post my name and it makes me want to continue to be part of this group.

2ride - Where are you?

In an effort to keep myself from getting bored, I have tried a few new things this week. I took shredded chicken, mixed it with WF Blue Cheese Dressing and Frank's Buffalo sauce, heated it thru then mixed it into a salad. Excellent! I also tried a new vegetable today - Celeriac (Celery Root). Boiled it until soft, then pureed with garlic, a little EVOO & water. Better than cauliflower mash. I know people have posted these ideas before but I think it is important to try new foods, even (almost) a year after hitting maintenance.

I know some of you are using Superbowl Sunday as a free day. Anyone have any good On-Plan ideas?

Lynn


2RIDEROLLERCOAST
02-04-2012, 11:30 PM
A year ago this week I decided to do something about my weight. I hadn't weighed myself for at least 1 year if not more. At work an amazing man some of you may remember Couts, he was the ever shrinking man. I asked him HOW, I then found a clinic near my house and made an appointment and the rest was history. My first weigh in I was so ashamed of my weight I weighed in at 241. When asked what was my goal, I had thought hard about this and I didn't ever remember being 140 so that was my set date. I thought the food tasted a little weird but after a week I started really liking knowing exactly what I was eating every day. Loved that I could have chocolate and chips and puddings. What a diet... and that first week what a shock 11 lbs I was hooked... as the weeks continued it was 4 lbs here 3 lbs there and so down my weight went. I spent a lot of time on this website as it was so helpful having people there that were doing the same thing. As my first 25 lbs gone, the changes were amazing, my face was thinner I was looking for different clothing to wear. 50 lbs came and went decided I needed a new hair style there went the long hair in a ponytail, to shoulder lenght bob. Next 75 lbs there I celebrated with a tattoo of both my dogs' paws one on each calve, and the proceeds went to charity of a rescue organization. After that my weight lose slowed but I continued I wasn't giving up. I began to yo-yo one week I would gain weight the next I would lose, then I would gain and again lose. It seemed like I was in the 170s for ever.. finally I hit 165 and was so excited. There I struggled some more, it is a hard time when everyone is telling you that you look great you don't need to lose anything more. I knew that I looked okay but I still was set to my goal. Even my coach began to say maybe you shouldn't go any further still I persisted. I went through a bootcamp for a couple of weeks, then I did phase 2 for 10 days, still yo-yoing back to phase 1 and lost a little so back to phase 2 I went and then I went to phase 3. That is just a weird thing to eat fruit, yogurt and bread with butter or my case peanut butter. You get so full but know you are doing things properly. I finally lost in phase 3 I was so excited. We decided that I wasn't quite at my goal, but I would go into maintenance anyway. Nov 21 I went into maintenance weighing 146. 95 lbs lost in 10 months I was looking forward to what maintenance would provide and how I would handle it. They let you loose with a little advise about carbs and fats and they should never be together as two kids that always fight... and off you go.
To celebrate my 95 lbs lost I donated 95 lbs of food to a food drive put on my a local radio station.
Finally as a celebration my dear friend who is a photographer did a photo shoot for me, this being my late Dad's birthday so it couldn't have been a better day to celebrate life and knowing that I will be healthier.

Now you know how we say this diet is easy just strict? It is so true, I enjoyed a few "fun days" and was so afraid to gain weight I didn't totally do more than a extra snack after my first fun day... well long story short with Christmas and all I did gain weight I am at about 160 again and have decided that I would go on phase 1 again for a couple of weeks to reset my pancreas. I have to figure out what makes me gain weight... I know it is either bread, peanut butter or dairy. Probably the peanut butter as I LOVE peanut butter.
All I want you all to remember that maintainence is hard but once you figure out what your body cannot tolerate you should be good... or like me go back to phase 1 to see if you can lose those lbs again.

Those who struggle and don't seem to make it a week without cheating or giving up, please please for your own good don't cheat it just sets you back. I didn't cheat until the end of my yo-yo cycle and it didn't help me at all. I have gone to potlucks, out for supper, to a funeral, through Christmas and through some sad times and a lot of good times and I am here to say This Diet works you just have to be ready to do it. The keys I found are drink your water and more, have a good support system, and don't worry about what others say or how much calories, how much carbs etc you are eating, you have time to worry about that when you get to maintenance. Set goals, big ones and little ones, and pamper yourself when you can.
I want to thank all that have supported me here.
My friends, Arti for giving me clothing from size 16 - 5, Leslie for not trying to get me to indulge when she did, Emma who started around the same time and was so nice to have someone to talk to. Tracey for the wonderful picture, Rene for the man that lead the way... and so many more that encouraged me along the way.

Now I am on a new leg of this journey/marathon I find myself looking back going wow I came a long way. I may never reach my goal but I made a promise to myself not to ever get that heavy ever again. I am enjoying life more. I started running with my Red Dog. This weekend was a goal long in coming, Red Dog Rebel got her Agility Trial Dog of Canada and I am so proud of her. It was a sad day though as 2 weeks ago I said goodbye to my first Agility Partner and furry Friend. I know that Jewel was barking and cheering us on as we competed today.
Have a great weekend everyone and I hope this has encouraged those that need encouraging and just shows that this diet works and if you do start gaining weight you know how to lose. Keep up the good work all!:dancer::dancer:

Tripmama
02-05-2012, 12:37 AM
Looks like you are doing an awesome job! Keep losing and inspiring me!

bigpassport
02-05-2012, 10:23 AM
2Ride Thank you for taking the time to write down your story for us! You have done an amazing thing and with an amazing attitude! I LOVE that you gave 75 lbs of food to charity. I am going to do that and suggest that to my coach. And sorry to hear about the loss of your furry friend. I started the "2 week" reboot a week ago. I'm toying with the idea of extending it to try to get down to a new goal weight. Looking forward to rebooting with you!

Maile
02-06-2012, 08:12 AM
2Ride..That was a very inspiring post!
What an accomplishment you have made from weighing 240 a year ago.
Throughout it I hear the determination and strength in you that you will not go back to being overweight again. You have shown such perseverance throughout this last year..never giving up even when the program was not working..and you hit a yo-yo phase.
I know you will figure out what makes you gain weight.
The thanks go to you for being so supportive to everyone here in many posts.
You have helped so many of us with your advice and encouragement. I always look forward to your posts.
Keep up the excellent effort my friend. You inspire all of us!

I am so sorry about losing Jewel and agree he was encouraging you with Red Dog Rebel. Good performance.

Going on Phase 1 is an excellent idea! Have a very good day.

Linden
02-06-2012, 08:31 AM
A year ago this week I decided to do something about my weight.

:hug: :hug: :hug:

Maile
02-06-2012, 09:59 AM
Hi Woolberger..I like your chicken idea. My on plan Super bowel was discovering that steamed clams are easy and yummy..plus I made low carb crab cakes..which quite honestly are not optimum..but Ok.
Hope your reboot is going well. Trying out new recipes keeps me inspired also.

woolberger
02-06-2012, 10:05 AM
Happy anniversary Joanne! Job well done.:cp: So...have you been on a roller coaster yet?

I am so sad to hear about Jewel. She could not have had a better guardian than you. :hug: Congratulations to you and Red Dog. That sounds like so much fun. Have fun with the "New You".

Lynn

woolberger
02-06-2012, 11:07 AM
Hi Woolberger..I like your chicken idea. My on plan Super bowel was discovering that steamed clams are easy and yummy..plus I made low carb crab cakes..which quite honestly are not optimum..but Ok.
Hope your reboot is going well. Trying out new recipes keeps me inspired also.

Hi Maile,

I hadn't refreshed my screen when I wrote the above post so I didn't see your note. I had a lot of fun yesterday. Went to a friend's house to watch the game. I took the cheddar soy snacks for the salsa and I make chicken meatballs with the buffalo wing sauce & WF Blue Cheese.
I'm not a clam person but I could go for some crab cakes!
Have a great week.

Lynn

Gika
02-06-2012, 12:38 PM
Alright ladies. It's was that time again!! Last thread reached over 560 posts!!

Thanks for starting it!

2Ride I started the "2 week" reboot a week ago. I'm toying with the idea of extending it to try to get down to a new goal weight. Looking forward to rebooting with you!

Same here! So far I've decided to extend it at least one more week, and if there is a "decent loss" (something close to 1 lb) then I will continue a little longer, if not, then that will be a clear sign that my work out routine is not meant to be combined with IP and I will phase off. I really don't want to stop working out right now. Good luck with your decision.

JellyMae -
In an effort to keep myself from getting bored, I have tried a few new things this week. I took shredded chicken, mixed it with WF Blue Cheese Dressing and Frank's Buffalo sauce, heated it thru then mixed it into a salad. Excellent! I also tried a new vegetable today - Celeriac (Celery Root). Boiled it until soft, then pureed with garlic, a little EVOO & water. Better than cauliflower mash. I know people have posted these ideas before but I think it is important to try new foods, even (almost) a year after hitting maintenance.

I know some of you are using Superbowl Sunday as a free day. Anyone have any good On-Plan ideas?

Lynn

Good for you for keep trying new things in the kitchen, that is one department where I sorely lack creativity. Everyone's recipes here have been my saviors though. Hope you continue doing well on your reboot. If you don't mind me asking, do you plan on doing it until you reach a comfortable weight, or just enough time to get your pancreas reset?

Gika
02-06-2012, 12:43 PM
A year ago this week I decided to do something about my weight. I hadn't weighed myself for at least 1 year if not more. At work an amazing man some of you may remember Couts, he was the ever shrinking man. I asked him HOW, I then found a clinic near my house and made an appointment and the rest was history. My first weigh in I was so ashamed of my weight I weighed in at 241. When asked what was my goal, I had thought hard about this and I didn't ever remember being 140 so that was my set date. I thought the food tasted a little weird but after a week I started really liking knowing exactly what I was eating every day. Loved that I could have chocolate and chips and puddings. What a diet... and that first week what a shock 11 lbs I was hooked... as the weeks continued it was 4 lbs here 3 lbs there and so down my weight went. I spent a lot of time on this website as it was so helpful having people there that were doing the same thing. As my first 25 lbs gone, the changes were amazing, my face was thinner I was looking for different clothing to wear. 50 lbs came and went decided I needed a new hair style there went the long hair in a ponytail, to shoulder lenght bob. Next 75 lbs there I celebrated with a tattoo of both my dogs' paws one on each calve, and the proceeds went to charity of a rescue organization. After that my weight lose slowed but I continued I wasn't giving up. I began to yo-yo one week I would gain weight the next I would lose, then I would gain and again lose. It seemed like I was in the 170s for ever.. finally I hit 165 and was so excited. There I struggled some more, it is a hard time when everyone is telling you that you look great you don't need to lose anything more. I knew that I looked okay but I still was set to my goal. Even my coach began to say maybe you shouldn't go any further still I persisted. I went through a bootcamp for a couple of weeks, then I did phase 2 for 10 days, still yo-yoing back to phase 1 and lost a little so back to phase 2 I went and then I went to phase 3. That is just a weird thing to eat fruit, yogurt and bread with butter or my case peanut butter. You get so full but know you are doing things properly. I finally lost in phase 3 I was so excited. We decided that I wasn't quite at my goal, but I would go into maintenance anyway. Nov 21 I went into maintenance weighing 146. 95 lbs lost in 10 months I was looking forward to what maintenance would provide and how I would handle it. They let you loose with a little advise about carbs and fats and they should never be together as two kids that always fight... and off you go.
To celebrate my 95 lbs lost I donated 95 lbs of food to a food drive put on my a local radio station.
Finally as a celebration my dear friend who is a photographer did a photo shoot for me, this being my late Dad's birthday so it couldn't have been a better day to celebrate life and knowing that I will be healthier.

Now you know how we say this diet is easy just strict? It is so true, I enjoyed a few "fun days" and was so afraid to gain weight I didn't totally do more than a extra snack after my first fun day... well long story short with Christmas and all I did gain weight I am at about 160 again and have decided that I would go on phase 1 again for a couple of weeks to reset my pancreas. I have to figure out what makes me gain weight... I know it is either bread, peanut butter or dairy. Probably the peanut butter as I LOVE peanut butter.
All I want you all to remember that maintainence is hard but once you figure out what your body cannot tolerate you should be good... or like me go back to phase 1 to see if you can lose those lbs again.

Those who struggle and don't seem to make it a week without cheating or giving up, please please for your own good don't cheat it just sets you back. I didn't cheat until the end of my yo-yo cycle and it didn't help me at all. I have gone to potlucks, out for supper, to a funeral, through Christmas and through some sad times and a lot of good times and I am here to say This Diet works you just have to be ready to do it. The keys I found are drink your water and more, have a good support system, and don't worry about what others say or how much calories, how much carbs etc you are eating, you have time to worry about that when you get to maintenance. Set goals, big ones and little ones, and pamper yourself when you can.
I want to thank all that have supported me here.
My friends, Arti for giving me clothing from size 16 - 5, Leslie for not trying to get me to indulge when she did, Emma who started around the same time and was so nice to have someone to talk to. Tracey for the wonderful picture, Rene for the man that lead the way... and so many more that encouraged me along the way.

Now I am on a new leg of this journey/marathon I find myself looking back going wow I came a long way. I may never reach my goal but I made a promise to myself not to ever get that heavy ever again. I am enjoying life more. I started running with my Red Dog. This weekend was a goal long in coming, Red Dog Rebel got her Agility Trial Dog of Canada and I am so proud of her. It was a sad day though as 2 weeks ago I said goodbye to my first Agility Partner and furry Friend. I know that Jewel was barking and cheering us on as we competed today.
Have a great weekend everyone and I hope this has encouraged those that need encouraging and just shows that this diet works and if you do start gaining weight you know how to lose. Keep up the good work all!:dancer::dancer:

Congratulations on your fantastic journey!

I've admired your persistence and ability to keep focused even in the midst of the obstacles you faced with your stalls. Have you had a physical lately? I think it might be a good idea to check your thyroid and cortisol levels.. they could be the culprits in slowing things down and making your gain weight quickly. Just a thought, though.
Good luck on your continuing journey, I'm really glad you continue to share your experience with us.

Linden
02-06-2012, 01:27 PM
Cap, I've taken IP packets in and out of Hawai'i and in and out of the country. Nobody has ever questioned them. And all my packets came to me via the USPS, in case you wanted to mail them to yourself at your hotel.

woolberger
02-06-2012, 01:28 PM
If you don't mind me asking, do you plan on doing it until you reach a comfortable weight, or just enough time to get your pancreas reset?

I'm hoping to get back to 3 lbs below my goal where I was before. It might take a little longer...then 2 weeks of phase III.

capricious
02-06-2012, 05:00 PM
Thank you to those of you that replied to my question about the IP packets crossing the border. I'm going to stick them in my luggage and hope for the best because I do not want to be without them. Could probably manage but don't really want to.
woolberger- Very happy to see so many posts from you! I remember the first post in the first maintainers thread. "A thread for those in maintenance to support each other when the compliments stop coming in so frequently..." Giving each other recipe ideas. Discussing what is working for us and what isn't. Acknowledging that even though the weight may be gone the work is far from over. And I will always be thankful to you, for continuing to linger with this site and enabling the support that I now enjoy so fully.
I never found losing weight to be as enjoyable as I did with IP. And I think it was primarily due to the fact I had never joined a weight loss community as tightly knit as this one was. When I first began there was darbs, pxlkitty, cheekywit, 2ride, Mrs. Diettrich, Mamarix, AuntSheeshie, SusieBee and so many others...all of whom seemed so knowledgeable of the diet and provided so much guidance & advice along the way. You had finished before I even began but I would still see posts from you in the daily chat... posts from the land of maintenance. Thankfully pxlkitty, 2ride & determined47 all still post as well. I loved your summation 2ride it was beautiful. You give such thanks for what has been a long journey with the realization that the 'destination' is a moving target. Your strength helps us all and we are blessed to have you amongst us.
Maile- Your weight loss journey is nothing short of amazing and you have been a source of calm in the tornado of maintenance. Thank you.
bigpassport- it makes me smile that you are amongst us again... rebooting and fighting hard. You & disgal & I all 'graduated' to maintenance so close to one another and that we are still here, contributing & focusing is awesome. There was such a harried learning curve with the free day & maintenance eating... it was so nice not to feel alone while I was figuring it out.
gika- I know exactly how you feel about 123. When you see the 'low' number it is near to impossible to let go of it. You will always want it and nothing will seem good enough until it is showing up on the scale at least twice a week :D I think you're wise to keep sticking it out with the reboot to see how it all plays out and knowing that if Phase 1 doesn't do it for you then modified Phase 3/4 sometimes can. maile, pauley & I who all exercise as you do have all lost in Phase 4 albeit slowly and by modifying it... but it is entirely plausible if needs be.

Maile
02-07-2012, 08:03 AM
Cap. Your positive supportive comments are a ray of sunshine on this thread. Your information is also invaluable. Hope you have a great day.

Gika and Cap..I am the same..once you get into the 20s you want to stay there.

Woolberger: You will get those 3 pounds off..and you will feel better being below goal. Your SB party sounded fun. I enjoyed mine.

Biopassport: Is your reboot doing well this week?

Off to drive in freezing fog..I hope that groundhog was right about an early spring.

Pauley
02-07-2012, 09:08 AM
Great story 2-ride! Thanks for sharing and inspiring us all! It was stories like yours that got me through phase 1. Thanks to everyone else for their encouragement and inspiration as well.

I continue to rely on this message board 4 months into maintenance. Why did I think maintenance would be easier? It feels like a struggle every single day to keep this weight off. I largely continue to manage my weight by managing my environment... rarely eating out and keeping zero trigger foods (anything with sugar) in the house. You'd think I could loosen up a little by now, but I'm not finding that to be the case. I was definitely the weird one on that last business trip, refusing to go out to dinner 3 of the 4 nights. The night I did go, I was with "normal" thin coworker who are able to naturally order a small meal and pick at it rather than gobble the bread, order wine and want dessert (me)! I don't think I will ever be like them and for some reason I'm wallowing in self pity about it this morning.

I'm thinking of establishing a reward system for myself on maintenance like I did in phase 1 to help me keep it going. Do any of you do that? I have my eye on a pair of expensive jeans I may purchase at my year IP anniversary.

gettinmygrooveback
02-07-2012, 10:53 AM
Anyone care to enlighten me with their experiences with prescription anti-inflammatory medication and weight loss? I know Linden’s feeling “fluffy” and it sounds like any fluid retention is relieved once medication is stopped. Anyone else seeing this “process” happening? I am petrified as to what post-surgery pain medication is going to do to me. I am so frustrated and doing my best not to be so upset. I feel like the hamster on her wheel……..

capricious
02-07-2012, 11:12 AM
ahhh pauley your post honestly made me laugh out loud this morning and I needed to. Because I too am wallowing in self pity after two days of phase 1 only brought me to the high end of my 'comfort zone'. I've honestly been so spoiled over the past month and had come to take it for granted that no matter how bad my free day is that my weight after a day of phase 1 usually returns right to the middle of my comfort zone. Instead I got quite the shocker this week and saw a number I hadn't seen in well over six weeks and truly didn't miss. I could have lived quite happily with never seeing it again. So it was definitely another day of Phase 1 for me and that still only brought it to the very high end of normal. Not particularly reassuring. Today will be a strict phase 3 and probably tomorrow as well. I don't want to continue these head games with myself and have decided that the free day absolutely has to be restricted to a free meal. I'm with you on the sugar. It's still one of those things that once I have it I want more, more, more. So, it's gotta go. I only have it on free days but it is typically what sends me into a tailspin...
Freezing fog, Maile? Yuck. Our groundhog said it would be another 6 weeks of winter... but considering where I live I would count myself very lucky if that comes true ;)

capricious
02-07-2012, 11:55 AM
Okay... just have to tack this on... do you know if your an endomorph, ectomorph or mesomorph? These are the three scientifically delineated body types. Have a super skinny friend that eats whatever she wants and still looks like a supermodel? She's an ectomorph. Do you develop muscle fairly easily and look fit but have big thighs that you so wish you could 'do' something about? You're a mesomorph. Prone to being 'fleshy', 'plump' or soft? You're an endomorph... Want to take a quiz and see? http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/becker3.htm
Can provide you with good training & diet info as each body type needs different things...

Determinedat47
02-07-2012, 02:23 PM
Anyone care to enlighten me with their experiences with prescription anti-inflammatory medication and weight loss? I know Linden’s feeling “fluffy” and it sounds like any fluid retention is relieved once medication is stopped. Anyone else seeing this “process” happening? I am petrified as to what post-surgery pain medication is going to do to me. I am so frustrated and doing my best not to be so upset. I feel like the hamster on her wheel……..

Generally postop anti-inflammatory medication is not prescribed because it impedes healing. Opiates should not cause weight gain.

gettinmygrooveback
02-07-2012, 03:27 PM
Generally postop anti-inflammatory medication is not prescribed because it impedes healing. Opiates should not cause weight gain.

Thanks.....I so hope you are correct on all counts. :)

bigpassport
02-08-2012, 12:26 AM
Cap You are so sweet to include everyone in your posts. Honestly, I'm back because of you! You sent me that pm on Fat Secret and got me back in with the IP gang. So thank you!

Maile My reboot is not what I expected. It's been a week and a half, and I really haven't lost any weight. I've decided to cut out one of my exercise classes and see if that gets the scale moving. I am feeling less puffy, so maybe I'm "losing fat and gaining muscle"? Hoping that the body fat monitor at my next weigh in will tell me something. The jury is still out on whether I will limit my Phase 1 to two weeks or keep going.

Have you all read "Why We Get Fat and What to Do About It" by Gary Taubes? Very compelling arguments for the reduction of carbs in our diet. I'm not all the way through it, so I'm not quite to the "And What to Do About It" part. Hope it gives some practical guidance...and by practical I mean includes the occasional cinnamon roll!

bigpassport
02-08-2012, 12:31 AM
Okay... just have to tack this on... do you know if your an endomorph, ectomorph or mesomorph? These are the three scientifically delineated body types. Have a super skinny friend that eats whatever she wants and still looks like a supermodel? She's an ectomorph. Do you develop muscle fairly easily and look fit but have big thighs that you so wish you could 'do' something about? You're a mesomorph. Prone to being 'fleshy', 'plump' or soft? You're an endomorph... Want to take a quiz and see? http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/becker3.htm
Can provide you with good training & diet info as each body type needs different things...

I'm a mesomorph. Now, what to do about it...

Maile
02-08-2012, 08:14 AM
Pauley: I understand your feelings..Yesterday I was feeling sorry for myself having to exercise almost daily. I too have been the odd one out on work trips and have skipped meals with co-workers in the name of health. I also look at thin people eating and wonder how they do it. I think you should reward yourself in maintenance with those jeans! This is a daily effort and is work!

Cap: I also had the scale jump 3 pounds in one day..Shook me up. I am with you on having a free meal on the free day..or even just indulging in something extra at that meal. Good luck on going down again. Thanks for the quiz..

I am listening to all of these reports on how awful sugar is for you. Did you know that the average American eats 28 tsp of sugar a day? They are supposed to eat 6. Some states are thinking about taxing candy and soda to make them more expensive.

Lee: That books sounds good..going to order it. You know it is always hard when you follow the reboot..stay on..and then don't lose. Something has got to start working soon..glad you are less puffy. Hang in there.

Gettingmy groove back..I have not gained weight from post surgery medication.

Have a great Wednesday everyone.

New Englander
02-08-2012, 12:55 PM
Okay... just have to tack this on... do you know if your an endomorph, ectomorph or mesomorph? These are the three scientifically delineated body types. Have a super skinny friend that eats whatever she wants and still looks like a supermodel? She's an ectomorph. Do you develop muscle fairly easily and look fit but have big thighs that you so wish you could 'do' something about? You're a mesomorph. Prone to being 'fleshy', 'plump' or soft? You're an endomorph... Want to take a quiz and see? http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/becker3.htm
Can provide you with good training & diet info as each body type needs different things...
I really enjoy lurking here (as I'm prepping myself for maintenance) and your posts are so insightful and educational. I wanted to thank you! AND you look absolutely fabulous! Congrats to you and all other for maintaining for life!!! ;)

cajunladybug22
02-08-2012, 06:26 PM
2Ride...you're inspirational, and awesome! You have so much to be proud of, and I know you'll make this healthy lifestyle a permanent thing. :) So sorry to hear about Jewel, but you're right about cheering you on.

I started my reboot today (finally)! Not too bad so far, and I even did my step/weights/kickboxing/abs class today. I think I'll add in a 4th packet just in case, but I need to get better about having my lunch packet and salad right after I get back. Anyway, hope everyone's having a great week!

capricious
02-09-2012, 12:15 AM
Thank you New Englander, maile & bigpassport for your kind comments! I really enjoy being part of this community as my 'adult interaction' is quite limited. Being happy & self confident is so intrinsically tied with my ability to take pride in my behaviors. Exercising, checking in on here, following a healthy meal plan these all keep me 'feeling well'. A big thanks to those that post and help keep the thread going. It may not seem like much to check in but it does help to keep maintenance a priority for me.
It has been a slow week post wise... just wondering if the superbowl threw things off or is everyone busy? I know jennydoodle mentioned that she has been quite busy... and that pxlkitty travels quite a bit... but paint lady & woolberger & gika & lachick where are you guys???
cajunladybug- congrats on the official restart and doing it with a step class no less! Good for you!!
maile- I completely believe there is a huge problem with sugar consumption. It is an addictive substance and should be taxed as such...
bigpassport- I'm a mesomorph too! Was wondering why my thighs were so unwilling to dissipate when the rest of me did... ahh well...

Pxlkitty4
02-09-2012, 07:48 AM
It has been a slow week post wise... just wondering if the superbowl threw things off or is everyone busy? I know jennydoodle mentioned that she has been quite busy... and that pxlkitty travels quite a bit... but paint lady & woolberger & gika & lachick where are you guys???
cajunladybug- congrats on the official restart and doing it with a step class no less! Good for you!!


I'm here. Work has been CRAZY, and my hubby has been working late and the kidlet was sick (fever sunday and monday). I was sick Monday too, so that was a ton of fun. Tuesday I tried to work from home with a bouncing 4-yr old (kid must be fever-free for 24 hrs before retruning to daycare) who decided he wanted to do the following while mommy was on conference calls:

1) gymnastics in the living room on my pilates mat,
2) tambourine -- who knew we even owned one???,
and 3) spontaneous shower at 3pm. Good thing I was on an internal call when I failed to hit "mute" before saying "don't use so much soap!!"

I've been ordering in food, which is normally just fine becuase I know what to order.

I had a hiccup one night and ate an entire bag of lowfat potato chips (it wasn't that big, but still!) with some cream cheese. I haven't fallen down that hole in about a year, so I'm going to cut myself some slack. But, the price I'm paying is terrible. I can't seem to get the weight off.

I'm still at 151.5... Grrr... I ws up over the weekend so only had a tiny cheat on Saturday night. anything other than one full cheat day seems to screw me up. 1/2 cheat day = disaster because then I pick a little here and there over the days that follow. Then something like Tuesday night happens. If I have 1 1/2 cheat days, it's a disaster the other way. Ah, what to do???

Anyway, I'm back on phase 2 today. Going to work in my regular office (not downtown), oatmeal for breakfast. Going to mix in coconut oil after hearing so many good things about it for brain function. I've been using it as face/hand oil for a while, time to eat some! I'm also hoping it will help with hunger. When I don't have my phase 3 breakfast, I feel cranky and hungry from about 10:30 to noon.

My hubby's brithday is next week, so I have to find the perfect gift. I'm thinking espresso machine :) Since coffee has no calories and he's not as into Keurig as me and has developed quite the nasty Starbucks habit (he orders a quadruple espresso).

OK. Off to the ratrace for me. I have to just take this one day at a time. When I'm back in the "zone" I can have my toast back. At least it's 2lbs not 60 I'm struggling with.

Damn. Being thin is SO much work.

Pxlkitty4
02-09-2012, 08:04 AM
A year ago this week I decided to do something about my weight...

Now I am on a new leg of this journey/marathon I find myself looking back going wow I came a long way. I may never reach my goal but I made a promise to myself not to ever get that heavy ever again. I am enjoying life more.



2ride -- I remember so many of these details and your struggles/triumphs week to week as we were on this journey together. I didn't realize that you had lost Jewel - I am so very, very sorry. She is in a better place, of that I am sure. And watching you run with your Rebel makes her smile...

Thank you for your inspirational post. I couldn't agree with you more. This diet has literally changed my life and given me the knowledge to understand how to control my weight forever. I do still struggle from day to day, and the endpoint is a moving target, not a specific number or clothing size. But, I have all the tools I need to stay thin. I just need to use those tools on the days when my weight is up, then keep myself in check when my weight is within range. No other diet has ever made it so simple.

Maile
02-09-2012, 08:18 AM
Hi Pixl.. " i like this line. I just need to use the tools on the days when my weight is up, then keep myself in check when weight is in range." This is so true.
You have lost 60 pounds and are in a much much healthier position now. You have worked hard and understand your body so much more. It is hard work being constantly vigilant! I also get grouchy on my non Phase 3 breakfast morning. I hope today goes well for you.

Cap: I also appreciate everyone who posts..I also need to keep maintenance a huge focus in my life. Posting helps!

Here is a bit of humor:


No matter how slow you go, you're still lapping everybody on the couch.

Pxlkitty4
02-09-2012, 09:25 AM
Hi Pixl.. " i like this line. I just need to use the tools on the days when my weight is up, then keep myself in check when weight is in range." This is so true.
You have lost 60 pounds and are in a much much healthier position now. You have worked hard and understand your body so much more. It is hard work being constantly vigilant! I also get grouchy on my non Phase 3 breakfast morning. I hope today goes well for you.


I mixed coconut oil in with my Nashua oatmeal and I'm happy to report that it was simply delicious!!


Here is a bit of humor:
No matter how slow you go, you're still lapping everybody on the couch.


This made my day. Thanks!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
02-09-2012, 10:16 AM
good morning all am still away on training but have a minute to post... went out for supper last night with a group and I soooo wanted the milk chocolate peanutbutter cup on the menu... alas no one ordered it so I settled for water... was just going to have a little spoonful.. haven't been doing real good on my trip but not hugely bad either, soups and salads mostly. the coffee is going to kill me though.

Samba
02-09-2012, 10:26 AM
I am one week on IP. But, I come over to read this thread often! I want to keep my eyes on my goal. You all give me hope for the future.

bigpassport
02-09-2012, 10:31 AM
No matter how slow you go, you're still lapping everybody on the couch.

I love it!

Finished reading "Why We Get Fat, And What to Do About It" by Gary Taubes. I highly, highly recommend it. One thing he discusses is how it has only been recently that a low-fat, high-carb diet has been recommended and that previously it was common knowledge that carbohydrates make you fat. He discuses metabolic syndrome (which we all learned through IP) and discusses the science and studies of what carbs make you fat. He includes the result of a study comparing 4 diets and shows that the Atkins diet (low carb) across the board was more beneficial for weight loss, lowering bp, etc. His conclusion is advocating a reduction in carbs. He says that everyone's body is different (so you can't say 20 g, 50 g or 100g of carbs a day is what everyone should eat).

Rather than setting an arbitrary limit, for number of carbs per day or simply reducing carbs as much as possible, he is more aligned with Dr. Atkins approach, which is to find the amount of carbs your body tolerates without gaining weight. This makes sense to me, so now I'm off to study how Atkins recommends we find our perfect level of carbs. Maybe knowing how many carbs a day I can tolerate will help in maintenance!

patns
02-09-2012, 11:26 AM
I love it!


Rather than setting an arbitrary limit, for number of carbs per day or simply reducing carbs as much as possible, he is more aligned with Dr. Atkins approach, which is to find the amount of carbs your body tolerates without gaining weight. This makes sense to me, so now I'm off to study how Atkins recommends we find our perfect level of carbs. Maybe knowing how many carbs a day I can tolerate will help in maintenance!

That makes so much sense about finding your limit. Everyone is unique in how our bodies process food.

I am hearing a lot lately about how much sodium is in our diets.
Researchers were surprised to discover that the largest source of sodium in the North Americian diet is now from bread and bread type products.

A number of people have asked me what I am doing to lose weight. When I say what I am eating everyone can't imagine not eating bread and "crazy fad diet" warnings start flashing in their heads and they quickly lose interest.

We have become so ingrained with the notion that grain products are our primary foodsource.

But aside from the carbs there is also a the high sodium so they carry a double whammy.

Pat

jennydoodle
02-09-2012, 11:51 AM
PxlKitty- I tried to "quote" this, but this website drives me crazy!!!

NESPRESSO NESPRESSO NESPRESSO!!!!!

I have the Nespresso Pixie and aside from hubby, it is the love of my life! I absolutely love it! I also have the Aeroccino so you can make steamed and foamed milk for latte's and capuccino's. It tasted like coffee you would get in Europe. I am so spoiled now that I can't even drink Dunkin or Starbucks anymore.

If he is an espresso drinker, I am telling you, he will love a nespresso machine. Oh, and they are so much easier to use (and clean) than a traditional espresso machine.

jennydoodle
02-09-2012, 11:52 AM
Sometimes this website drives me nuts! Anyway, I have been SUPER busy, but I do want to touch base on a few things going on. Hopefully I will have a little bit of time this afternoon and I can come back on :)

Pxlkitty4
02-09-2012, 12:21 PM
PxlKitty- I tried to "quote" this, but this website drives me crazy!!!

NESPRESSO NESPRESSO NESPRESSO!!!!!



I've had this at the fancy hotel in ny. there is one in the room. i will go to williams sonoma today to check it out. i had the citiz one and i liked it. cute, cute!!

glomor
02-09-2012, 01:57 PM
I went through a bootcamp for a couple of weeks, then I did phase 2 for 10 days, still yo-yoing back to phase 1 and lost a little so back to phase 2 I went and then I went to phase 3. That is just a weird thing to eat fruit, yogurt and bread with butter or my case peanut butter. You get so full but know you are doing things properly. I finally lost in phase 3 I was so excited. We decided that I wasn't quite at my goal, but I would go into maintenance anyway. Nov 21 I went into maintenance weighing 146. 95 lbs lost in 10 months I was looking forward to what maintenance would provide and how I would handle it. They let you loose with a little advise about carbs and fats and they should never be together as two kids that always fight... and off you go.

First of all, congratulations on your success and good luck in finding the right balance. I am a long way from maintenance, but I wanted to drop in on this thread for a little inspiration!

I am curious about the advice that carbs and fats should never be together. You mentioned bread with butter or peanut butter. With that advice wouldn't that be something to avoid? I'm not sure how the different phases work.

Pxlkitty4
02-09-2012, 02:31 PM
First of all, congratulations on your success and good luck in finding the right balance. I am a long way from maintenance, but I wanted to drop in on this thread for a little inspiration!

I am curious about the advice that carbs and fats should never be together. You mentioned bread with butter or peanut butter. With that advice wouldn't that be something to avoid? I'm not sure how the different phases work.

Check out the stickies for phases and look up phase 3. Breakfast is pretty much the only meal where you can combine...

glomor
02-09-2012, 02:35 PM
Check out the stickies for phases and look up phase 3. Breakfast is pretty much the only meal where you can combine...

OK, thanks!

Louisiana chick
02-09-2012, 05:49 PM
I have a question for the maintainers. My coach made me stay on phase 1 until I lost all of the weight that i wanted to lose. After reaching my goal, she immediately moved me to phase 3. She said that since I was at goal, she didn't feel the need for Phase 2. I lost weight the 14 days that I was on Phase 3. I started Phase 4 last Thursday and went weigh in today. On Phase 4, I lost an additional 2.4 pounds. The coach that I deal with wasn't there but the lady that weighed me seemed very concerned that I would lose that amount in 1 week on Phase 4. I am following the plan faithfully. Has anyone else in maintenance lost in the first week of Phase 4. I am even journaling into my fitness pal and am currently eating around 1200 calories a day. I am going to do the same this week and see what the coach says at my next weigh in.

GoodEatsandWine
02-09-2012, 07:09 PM
Hello all! I've been a bug on the wall for several weeks and have learned so much about IP from reading everyones posts...thank you! I'll be moving to phase 2/3 very soon and wanted to get some help with the Phase 3 breakfast. Living in Alaska, I'm very limited to products/brands and will most likely have to order online for items such as cereal (muesli and/or granola). I'm not sure bread can be ordered online and still be fresh but that might be a possibility as well. I've combed this forum by reading several threads and doing searches and I found a couple brand names but wanted to ask for your help as well. Can you share the brand name of muesli, granola, bread, yogurt (include if you use low-fat or non-fat), peanut butter, etc. that you've used? Thank you and congratulations on your maintenance!!

bigpassport
02-09-2012, 08:35 PM
I have a question for the maintainers. My coach made me stay on phase 1 until I lost all of the weight that i wanted to lose. After reaching my goal, she immediately moved me to phase 3. She said that since I was at goal, she didn't feel the need for Phase 2. I lost weight the 14 days that I was on Phase 3. I started Phase 4 last Thursday and went weigh in today. On Phase 4, I lost an additional 2.4 pounds. The coach that I deal with wasn't there but the lady that weighed me seemed very concerned that I would lose that amount in 1 week on Phase 4. I am following the plan faithfully. Has anyone else in maintenance lost in the first week of Phase 4. I am even journaling into my fitness pal and am currently eating around 1200 calories a day. I am going to do the same this week and see what the coach says at my next weigh in.

Hi LAChick--My husband and I both lost on Phase 4, my husband especially since he was eating the same amount of food I was. Maintenance, you will find, is a balancing act. You get to eat more, but you're nervous about eating too much, so you don't let yourself go. 1200 calories is still a low intake and you may still be in ketosis if you haven't had a full on cheat day. My suggestion is to experiment with the number of carbs and calories your body tolerates and practice the food combining rules. Good luck and congrats!

Determinedat47
02-09-2012, 10:02 PM
I have a question for the maintainers. My coach made me stay on phase 1 until I lost all of the weight that i wanted to lose. After reaching my goal, she immediately moved me to phase 3. She said that since I was at goal, she didn't feel the need for Phase 2. I lost weight the 14 days that I was on Phase 3. I started Phase 4 last Thursday and went weigh in today. On Phase 4, I lost an additional 2.4 pounds. The coach that I deal with wasn't there but the lady that weighed me seemed very concerned that I would lose that amount in 1 week on Phase 4. I am following the plan faithfully. Has anyone else in maintenance lost in the first week of Phase 4. I am even journaling into my fitness pal and am currently eating around 1200 calories a day. I am going to do the same this week and see what the coach says at my next weigh in.

Good job. Coaches are concerned if you don't lose weight, if you don't lose inches or if you do lose weight or inches! I say as long as you feel good- great. 1200 calories is too low for maintenance at your height but I am not thinking that you need a lecture-good for you- you will figure out what works!

Pxlkitty4
02-10-2012, 07:24 AM
Living in Alaska, I'm very limited to products/brands and will most likely have to order online for items such as cereal (muesli and/or granola). I'm not sure bread can be ordered online and still be fresh but that might be a possibility as well. I've combed this forum by reading several threads and doing searches and I found a couple brand names but wanted to ask for your help as well. Can you share the brand name of muesli, granola, bread, yogurt (include if you use low-fat or non-fat), peanut butter, etc. that you've used? Thank you and congratulations on your maintenance!!

I stick to ezekiel bread now although there are a few other sprouted grain high protein breads out there. Julien Bakery is one, and I think you can get their stuff delivered. Google "low carb bread online" to see a variety of places that will send it to you.

Honestly, I haven't had much granola and would rather have my toast in the morning than anything else. Honestly, it's so easy to MAKE granola, I would suggest you look for recipes and then just cut back on the sugar.

Yogurt - fage/chobani plain greek. I use the nonfat. anything around 6gms sugar is ok per serving.

I discovered "nashua nutrition" and have placed another order from there. They have alternative products, and I really like the oatmeal for days when I am back on Phase 1 or 2. When I was on IP, I did the omelet a lot and then the crispy cereal when I got sick of the omelet. I can't find a good substitute for the cereal, and can no longer stomach the omelet.

Maile
02-10-2012, 07:54 AM
Lee: I ordered that book and also Wheat Belly. I think low carb eating is the way to go. It will be interesting what you discover your carb amount is.

Patns: I agree with you about the dangers of too much sodium. It is everywhere. I try to buy sodium free spices. Interesting about the bread being a high source.

Goodeatsandwine: I also eat chobani yogurt, ezekial bread, safeway organic pb, and order products off netrition.com,

Louisiana Chick..I lost in Phase 4.. You just need to decide what weight you want to be.

Pixle: Coconut and oatmeal sounds wonderful. I may have to try Nashua oatmeal..I am guessing it is low carb. That quote made me smile on a day when I was not feeling too exercise motivated..at least I was not sitting on the couch!

2Ride: good for you staying away from that chocolate PB cup and drinking water. Enjoy your training trip.

I am glad it is Friday..I am making marshmellow snowmen to celebrate one class finishing the dreaded state testing.

desperatetolosegirl
02-10-2012, 08:59 AM
Hi LAChick--My husband and I both lost on Phase 4, my husband especially since he was eating the same amount of food I was. Maintenance, you will find, is a balancing act. You get to eat more, but you're nervous about eating too much, so you don't let yourself go. 1200 calories is still a low intake and you may still be in ketosis if you haven't had a full on cheat day. My suggestion is to experiment with the number of carbs and calories your body tolerates and practice the food combining rules. Good luck and congrats!

bigpassport, I have a question for you if you don't mind answering. I have the same goal weight as you of 130 lbs and I am about 13 pounds away. I am 5'5'' tall, wondering what size you are considering you're much taller than I am. I am mostly size 4/6 jeans depending on the brand.

MAINTAINisGoal
02-10-2012, 09:39 AM
[QUOTE=capricious;4206340]Thank you to those of you that replied to my question about the IP packets crossing the border. I'm going to stick them in my luggage and hope for the best because I do not want to be without them. Could probably manage but don't really want to.


I would love to hear about your Hawaii trip and IP Maintenance. I'm leaving for Hawaii in 6 weeks and will have been on Phase 4 only 1 week before we leave. When you have a moment will you please share what worked and what didn't. I have a workout plan and a mini-kitchen at our resort so I will have alot of control... good thing. With that said my husband are taking a much needed trip, just the two of us, and would don't want to be in "paradise" living like "IP prisoners". I guess this is the "giant puzzle" to figure out the rest of our lives... successful MAINTENANCE!!!

Any tips specific to maintenance in Hawaii would be much appreciated:)!

Maile
02-10-2012, 09:42 AM
I love it!

Finished reading "Why We Get Fat, And What to Do About It" by Gary Taubes. I highly, highly recommend it. One thing he discusses is how it has only been recently that a low-fat, high-carb diet has been recommended and that previously it was common knowledge that carbohydrates make you fat. He discuses metabolic syndrome (which we all learned through IP) and discusses the science and studies of what carbs make you fat. He includes the result of a study comparing 4 diets and shows that the Atkins diet (low carb) across the board was more beneficial for weight loss, lowering bp, etc. His conclusion is advocating a reduction in carbs. He says that everyone's body is different (so you can't say 20 g, 50 g or 100g of carbs a day is what everyone should eat).

Rather than setting an arbitrary limit, for number of carbs per day or simply reducing carbs as much as possible, he is more aligned with Dr. Atkins approach, which is to find the amount of carbs your body tolerates without gaining weight. This makes sense to me, so now I'm off to study how Atkins recommends we find our perfect level of carbs. Maybe knowing how many carbs a day I can tolerate will help in maintenance!
I have read that also..the low fat high carb diet does not work. What I have trouble with about Atkins is that they allow high cholesterol type foods such as heavy cream, butter, cream cheese, high fat cheeses. I just got the book in the mail and will read it!

Pxlkitty4
02-10-2012, 09:52 AM
I have read that also..the low fat high carb diet does not work. What I have trouble with about Atkins is that they allow high cholesterol type foods such as heavy cream, butter, cream cheese, high fat cheeses. I just got the book in the mail and will read it!

But... what IP teaches us is that these foods are not bad unless they are combined with carbs. In fact, I read somewhere that cholesterol is not the enemy. In fact, women with higher cholesterol live longer. Makes you wonder about all the ads on tv... who are they benefiting? big pharma??

http://www.naturalnews.com/033975_high_cholesterol_heart_attacks.html

capricious
02-10-2012, 11:43 AM
LaChick- I lost in Phases 3 & 4 also. When you go from Phase 1 & 2 where everything is very black and white with no shades of grey and this works so well in taking off weight it is very hard to switch gears and go into the land of different shades of grey. Paranoia about extra calories = extra weight makes one very tight with the distribution of said calories. My coach actually said "W" "T" "F" to me after I lost in my first week of Phase 4 and told me to start eating more. And I had a 'free evening' mixed in that week. Albeit we went for a 12km walk the next day but it still resulted in an overall loss for the week. It's all trial & error... If you want to maintain you'll probably need to up your caloric intake. I'm 2 inches shorter than you and usually aimed for about 1500 cal/ day for maintenance. Some days are 1700, some are 1200. But everyone's body & metabolism is different and you will have to find what works for yours. In the meantime don't sweat the coaches... it's your body and it takes time to figure it all out...
Pat That was interesting to find out that bread is such a high source of sodium. I'm of the mind that if it's refined & white it really isn't good for me. Flour, sugar, sodium. And these are all found in most breads. So it makes sense that 'Bread is the Devil'. I think it is much better when it's ezekiel, rye or sprouted grain but still consumption should be extremely limited- I keep it to mornings only as I have the whole day to process it. And I love my toast;)
Alaska- I eat Liberte non fat plain Greek yogurt. This can be hard to come by even where I live so not sure about the feasibility for you but it has the best stats I've come across and I love it's tart taste. I use .25 Cups Kashi 'Go Lean Crunch' mixed into my yogurt and berries as I need a 'crunch' to my yogurt. Granola really isn't that great for you when it's store bought regardless of the manufacturer because it almost primarily consists of sugar (honey, sugar cane, evaporated sugar cane) and carbs (oats, grains) and your body will crave it. You can take pxlkitty's suggestion and make a low carb version if you're really dying for it... I eat 'winnipeg' brand rye bread from Safeway. Kraft natural peanut butter. And still use an IP bar for a snack most days- though the Detour brand that can be found at Costco has very similar stats and tastes just as good!
pxlkitty- your story of working from home with your son there had me laughing! How is the oatmeal from nutrition? I'm always loathe to part ways with my yogurt in favor of oatmeal so haven't had it in ages but I'd love to have a low carb version!
maile- thanks for another wonderful quote that I played back to myself while running on the treadmill! Sometimes I don't feel that I'm doing enough as I know a girl that just absolutely shreds me when it comes to running- she can run faster & longer any day any time. It was a great reminder that I am still doing so much better than if I were curled up in front of the tv!
bigpassport- is that scale moving yet??
I've been having a pretty frustrating week myself scale wise. It has been mid- high range with no low at all. Still getting used to TOM of being back and having it lurk. This is only my third one in almost three years. I am hungrier than normal and was waking up absolutely ravenous after my Phase 3 days. But from what I can remember of PMS this is pretty typical. High weight, grouchy & starving. Can't really say I missed it. I'm a bit freaked out that I will not have a scale available to me in Hawaii. Was thinking that maybe there will be one in the exercise room. But even if there is I don't think me stripping down to step on it at 5 am (my usual weigh in time is 8 am at home) would go over all that well. Not that lycra weighs anything but hey in my head anything short of naked is going to add weight. :D Still if there is I will be utilizing it. So here's hoping.
maintainisgoal- I will definitely let everyone know how it goes while I'm there. Both woolberger & maile have been to Hawaii on maintenance and both are still maintaining! Hawaii lends itself well to healthful eating as so many there are health conscious. I always saw lots of runners & cyclists & over course people walking and enjoying being outdoors at a time of the year when so many of us are cooped up inside. The grocery stores also offer an abundance of healthy choices. We are staying in a condo that has a fully equipped kitchen so I have absolute control in that. No, my biggest concern is that my Italian in-laws are staying with us. And MIL LOVES to cook. LOTS. It's primarily fresh and sodium free though, I'm just going to have to be extremely careful about portions, fats & pasta. Maintenance anywhere isn't jail. It's freedom. With a lot of responsibility. To continue making good choices when temptations abound and acceptance that making those good choices is beneficial not only for the body but also the mind & spirit. I can't think of it as being 'unfair' that I can't eat whatever I want whenever I want. I can, I choose not to. Because I know that I feel so much better about myself and my decision making when I continue to make good choices for myself. That said, I eat lots of fruit & veggies for snacks. I keep my protein up throughout the day, have yogurt in the morning and cheese at lunch. I enjoy what I eat... and I'm sure that you'll find things that are healthy and that you enjoy eating as well... That all said I'll keep you posted on how things go with Hawaii!

GoodEatsandWine
02-10-2012, 01:26 PM
Thank you so much! It's good to have a place to start as far as finding out brands to search for when looking for breakfast items.

I thought the granola would be a challenge, unless I made it on my own. I've read the original Life After Phase 1 threads and someone kept talking about her favorite breakfast, which included granola but every granola I've found included either sugar, brown sugar or honey. Besides being bad for the diet, I'm very sugar sensitive and will get a migraine after the first bite. So it looks like I'm better off staying with muesli, Kashi and bread.

PxlKitty4- Agreed with the omelet. I find the only way I can eat it is with veggies mixed in, like mushrooms and asparagus, and then I through it in my salad.
Maile- Thank you for the brand names and info on the website! I'll check those out.
Capricious- Thanks for the info on Kashi. I've heard people mention this brand but wasn't sure which one they used. I LOVE rye bread! I'll have to see what I can find that I can use.

Also love the recommendations on the books: Why We Get Fat, and What to Do About It, and Wheat Belly.

I've recently found a magazine called Clean Eating. The recipes look amazing! Good ideas for breakfast, lunch, dinner and appetizers.

jennydoodle
02-10-2012, 02:32 PM
Hi Lovlies! It has been awhile since I have had an opportunity to come on and catch up. Work has been ridiculously crazy and by the time I get home at night, I just don't feel like getting on the computer.

Lots of interesting discussions going on. I finally started "Wheat Belly", but am still in the beginning of the book, so I can't really comment on it yet. But what I can say is that my own experience with removing wheat from my diet has been nothing short of eye opening.

I never lost weight in any other phase besides P1. Like all have mentioned, every body is unique and if you are still losing through P3 & P4, what that tells me is that you can add more calories and more carbs to maintain. For me, I need to keep my carbs fairly low on a regular basis to maintain my weight. I am one of those that fall into the "carb very sensitive" catagory. I feel like if you are following P3 & P4 to a T, and are still losing, you are one of the lucky ones who can handle a higher amount of carbs in your diet on a daily basis. :)

So I am still plugging along and still in my comfort window. However, I have added a new element to my maintenance. At my gym (Crossfit) they offer products by Advocare. I had never heard of them before, but everyone who takes them raves about them. They offer a "24 day challenge" which is pretty much a cleanse for 10 days and metabolic nutrition system for 14 days. So one of the girls I am friendly with at the gym wanted to do it, and asked me to do it with her. I am pretty much following a modified P2-P3 eating plan. It is pretty much P2 with added fruit & fat at breakfast, then the rest of the day is veggies & protein at lunch and dinner and 1 snack bar (restricted) and a post workout protein shake. I am on Day 3 and it is going really well so far. When I started I was at 133.8 and today I was 133 even. Which I don't particularly care about losing weight as I am in losing fat, which is what this cleanse & challenge promotes. Not to mention that my energy is through the roof. AND my workouts have been crazy good. I will keep you posted on my progress. I am secretly hoping that I might get under 130 :)

Pxlkitty4
02-10-2012, 03:19 PM
Hi Lovlies! It has been awhile since I have had an opportunity to come on and catch up. Work has been ridiculously crazy and by the time I get home at night, I just don't feel like getting on the computer.



I hear ya!! so, I have a pixie under my desk. It's getting wrapped tonight for the birthday next Wednesday. I just ordered a bunch of espresso pods and hopefully those will show up before his birthday. The holders are insanely expensive. I am going to stick with the same system I use for my keurig pods -- a $1.99 container store plastic shoe box, which spookingly fits perfectly sideways in my Ikea kitchen drawers.

Thanks for the info. I did splurge and got the milk frother for me. That's my reward.

Pxlkitty4
02-10-2012, 03:22 PM
pxlkitty- your story of working from home with your son there had me laughing! How is the oatmeal from nutrition? I'm always loathe to part ways with my yogurt in favor of oatmeal so haven't had it in ages but I'd love to have a low carb version!


I don't like it quite as much as IP oatmeal, but it's close enough. I make it with a little more water than they recommend, and stir the heck out of it to get the lumps out. Funny... all the talk of coffee machines. I don't boil the water, but I do run the water through the keurig (sans pod) to get the water hot. I find that it's hot enough.

I went back to toast this morning... yummy. And I had yogurt and fruit, but that was when I got to the office so I'm sure it had too much sugar in it.

jennydoodle
02-10-2012, 04:08 PM
For whatever reasonn, any time I try to "quote" 3FC shuts down...

Pxlkitty- here is what I was trying to write to you:
NICE! I love my Pixie and you will definitely love the Aeroccino! :)

Once hubby opens up the machine, go to nespresso.com and register the machine. Once you do that, you can buy the pods directly from them much cheaper. I think it is around $0.50 a pod, which is the best price around. Amazon is ridiculously expensive for the pods. I got a pretty nice pod holder at Amazon for like $20-$30 (they actually have a pretty good selection). It was the "Swissmar 20 capsule storage". Otherwise, the capsules/pods come in a pretty nice box, so that works too. Let me know how he likes it!

Momto2cs
02-10-2012, 04:15 PM
If you like why we get fat, read good calories, bad calories. Even more info.

bigpassport
02-11-2012, 12:48 AM
bigpassport, I have a question for you if you don't mind answering. I have the same goal weight as you of 130 lbs and I am about 13 pounds away. I am 5'5'' tall, wondering what size you are considering you're much taller than I am. I am mostly size 4/6 jeans depending on the brand.

I am a Size 8 pant, and am comfortably in an 8. I really don't see myself getting down to a Size 6 as a regular size. I'm thrilled and still a little amazed that I'm an 8, considering I started at a 16 and a 10 is previously the absolute thinnest I'd ever been. HTH.

bigpassport
02-11-2012, 01:08 AM
Cap The scale moved today! According to my coach's scale, I was down 6 lbs on the second week of reboot. I'm a little skeptical, though, because my home scale weigh ins haven't been that dramatic. It does give me encouragement to keep going on Phase 1. I'm jumping into my 3rd week of P1 now and will just take it week by week before deciding when to move to P2. When is Hawaii? Soooo jealous!

Jenny Advocare sounds interesting. Especially the part about your energy being through the roof. Please keep us posted on your results with it.

Pxl Has your experience on maintenance borne out the IP theory that fats and carbs should be separated? This, it seems, is something that really distinguishes IP from other low carb diets. I haven't read anything about separating fats and carbs other than IP. Maybe I should go Google. I'm planning my re-introduction to maintenance and am trying to decide whether to stick with Phase 4 (which honestly worked very well as long as we followed it) or whether to do just do low carb and find my carb tolerance level a la Dr. Atkins.

Good Eats I like the Clean Eating magazine and concept too. I'd like the magazine more if the recipes were a little more geared to low carb lifestyles.

Maile I'll have to get my hands on Wheatbelly now. I'm going to go back through the Why We Get Fat book and see what he says about high saturated fat foods. I don't recall (ther's so much info in the book, it's hard to digest it all!).

Have a great weekend everyone!!

Gika
02-11-2012, 03:40 AM
Well, I've had a few rough days lately, and today I finally completely sabotaged myself by eating off plan. I was struggling with how to say this, as I don't really want to make it sound like I'm rationalizing, also I don't want to discourage all of you, especially the "rebooters". I'm taking responsability for my actions. I've had stressful times before and that was no excuse or reason to fall off the wagon, as CLEARLY that didn't solve my problems nor did it take away the stress.. actually it only increased it... ugh
Well, I didn't want to come back before having a clear plan of action. I think that part of the problem was that I've been vacillating on my decision to stay on phase 1 or go to phase 3. Because of that, I've decided that I need a definite plan, and that is to stay on phase 1 until I reach 123 lbs. It might take a while, as my losses have been really small lately, but it won't take the 6 months that it took me to lose the rest of the weight, so I'm sure I could do it.
I really hope I'm not discouraging anyone here. Also I'd rather not post here again if I have another slip off.. I guess at that point I would need to deal with my issues in another way.

My slip off wasn't huge, basically just some bread today at dinner. All I can say is, it wasn't satisfying, it didn't mitigate my anxiety and it didn't solve my problems. So.. totally not worth it.

I feel really emotionally drained.. (why oh why does food have to have so much power ???) so this is it for me today. I will come back over the weekend and catch up.

Good night everyone

Pauley
02-11-2012, 09:20 AM
I am a Size 8 pant, and am comfortably in an 8. I really don't see myself getting down to a Size 6 as a regular size. I'm thrilled and still a little amazed that I'm an 8, considering I started at a 16 and a 10 is previously the absolute thinnest I'd ever been. HTH.

This is interesting. I am the same height, same size and weigh nearly 30 lbs more! I was busting out of my 16s when I started too, and that was at 217 lbs. I think I have large heavy bones. I do feel the same way about size 8 as you. I love it!!

I've been combing thrift stores for spring/summer wear and really enjoying buying cute capri pants in an 8. It was pretty expensive buying all new clothes for fall/winter, even shopping discounts, thrift and consignment. Now I am faced with doing it all over again with spring and summer clothes! Not that I'm complaining... very thankful to need smaller clothes.

Sooooooooo glad it's finally the weekend! Work has been stressful and we have no plans for the day today. Of course I still woke up at 5:30.

All this Hawaii talk has me excited for my Maui trip in July. Wish I was going sooner like you guys! You'll get to see the whales. Are you swimsuit shopping?

Jenny - that program sounds great. Interested to hear more. I could use the energy!

Pxlkitty4
02-11-2012, 09:21 AM
Well, I've had a few rough days lately...

I guess at that point I would need to deal with my issues in another way.



Hi. Don't beat yourself up. We all struggle with the old emotions and days that just go badly. The whole idea is that we no longer throw in the towel completely and start eating for sport and gain back ten pounds. Rather... we come here for support, we know what we need to do, and we get back on track (regardless of what track we are on). I've been struggling with being slightly over my weight range since about the beginning of December. I'm slightly aggravated by it, but I also have to not beat myself up. Now I'm struggling with 2 to 5 lbs, not 60!!

Where else could I turn where people actually understand me?? Please don't feel like you have to walk away ashamed if you go off track. We are here for precisely that reason??


As for feeling bad, keep in mind that is the food that is making you feel that way. If I eat bread, I feel bloated, cranky, and huge... Wheat bread seems to cause other issues, including slowing down my metabolism and generally uncomfortable. So... we can't feel better until we start eating things that don't make us feel that way...

At some point, I came up with a quote. It went something like this. I have to control what I am eating in order to control how I am feeling... If you let the food control the way you feel, the food is winning. Don't beat yourself up. Just realize that it is your body's addiction to carbs and that you have to get past it by changing your meals.

bigpassport
02-11-2012, 09:46 AM
Pauley I think it also has to do with where our weight is distributed. My hips, thighs and butt are my problem areas, so my pant size might be bigger because of that. I feel your pain about having to buy all new clothes. When I cleaned out my closet last fall, I literally had 1 pair of pants and 1 skirt I could wear. I'm frugal, so building up my wardrobe has been slow. My trick is to wear different tops with the same basic bottoms and hope no one notices!

Gika I feel the exact opposite as you about posting on the Maintainers thread. I would never post about a slip up on a newbie thread, but feel I can be totally honest here with friends who have 'been there done that'. So pleeaaase don't stay away because of how you think you will affect us. We are here to help you! Also, it doesn't sound like your cheat was all that bad. Forgive yourself and move on. For whatever reason, my losses on the reboot have been very slow too. Not dramatic like when I originally did IP. The scale was up again this morning:( But overall, I am losing. Even if it's only 1 or 2 lbs a week, it's coming off. Stick with it, you can do it!

Maile
02-11-2012, 09:51 AM
[QUOTE=capricious;4206340]Thank you to those of you that replied to my question about the IP packets crossing the border. I'm going to stick them in my luggage and hope for the best because I do not want to be without them. Could probably manage but don't really want to.


I would love to hear about your Hawaii trip and IP Maintenance. I'm leaving for Hawaii in 6 weeks and will have been on Phase 4 only 1 week before we leave. When you have a moment will you please share what worked and what didn't. I have a workout plan and a mini-kitchen at our resort so I will have alot of control... good thing. With that said my husband are taking a much needed trip, just the two of us, and would don't want to be in "paradise" living like "IP prisoners". I guess this is the "giant puzzle" to figure out the rest of our lives... successful MAINTENANCE!!!

Any tips specific to maintenance in Hawaii would be much appreciated:)!
I have taken two trips to Hawaii and maintained my weight. You can do it. I ate lots of Asian food for lunch and dinner..stayed away from rice. Also there are some excellent fish dishes on the menus.
Since the weather is warm, I walked everyday for exercise.
I also took IP crispy cereal packets so that I could have that for breakfast on days when the dinner might not have been quite optimum health.

Costco is a great resource for saving money over there!

Have a wonderful trip!

Maile
02-11-2012, 10:07 AM
But... what IP teaches us is that these foods are not bad unless they are combined with carbs. In fact, I read somewhere that cholesterol is not the enemy. In fact, women with higher cholesterol live longer. Makes you wonder about all the ads on tv... who are they benefiting? big pharma??

http://www.naturalnews.com/033975_high_cholesterol_heart_attacks.html
You know I have read that also. I guess I had a strong fear when a year ago my cholesterol was up...plus I know that the higher fat food could potentially cause weight gain.
I strongly recommend Why we Get Fat by Taubes. He really has excellent information on the society's misconceptions on losing and gaining weight. I have not reached his solution yet..
" I am going to argue that this calories in/out paradigm of adiposity is nonsensical: that we don't get fat because we eat too much and move too little, and that we can't solve the problem or prevent it by consciously doing the opposite."
" In other words, science makes it clear that hormones, enzymes, and growth factors regulate our fat tissue, just as they do everything else in the human body. That we do not get fat because we overeat, we get fat because the carbohydrates in our diet make us fat."
"What do I need to do to remain lean? Stay away from carbohydrate rich foods..refined carbohydrates and sugars."

However, I do know that if you do eat too much food..no matter what kind you will gain weight.

Maile
02-11-2012, 10:14 AM
Well, I've had a few rough days lately, and today I finally completely sabotaged myself by eating off plan. I was struggling with how to say this, as I don't really want to make it sound like I'm rationalizing, also I don't want to discourage all of you, especially the "rebooters". I'm taking responsability for my actions. I've had stressful times before and that was no excuse or reason to fall off the wagon, as CLEARLY that didn't solve my problems nor did it take away the stress.. actually it only increased it... ugh
Well, I didn't want to come back before having a clear plan of action. I think that part of the problem was that I've been vacillating on my decision to stay on phase 1 or go to phase 3. Because of that, I've decided that I need a definite plan, and that is to stay on phase 1 until I reach 123 lbs. It might take a while, as my losses have been really small lately, but it won't take the 6 months that it took me to lose the rest of the weight, so I'm sure I could do it.
I really hope I'm not discouraging anyone here. Also I'd rather not post here again if I have another slip off.. I guess at that point I would need to deal with my issues in another way.

My slip off wasn't huge, basically just some bread today at dinner. All I can say is, it wasn't satisfying, it didn't mitigate my anxiety and it didn't solve my problems. So.. totally not worth it.

I feel really emotionally drained.. (why oh why does food have to have so much power ???) so this is it for me today. I will come back over the weekend and catch up.

Good night everyone
Gika..Please keep posting if you feel like it, What you are going through, is what all of us do..we slip..we learn from it, and get back on track. Yes,it is so exhausting to have these cravings for food. You are not discouraging any of us as we all have had the same feelings of discouragement and fear.
I love to ready your posts and enjoy your support.
You may feel better when you chose the Phase you want to be on. For what it is worth, you can lose on Phase 3..just eat low carb the rest of the day.
You are so close to that goal of 123..It is bound to go slower as you get closer.
You can do it. keep telling yourself. your goal is progress not perfection.
Even to this day I can find myself slipping into an irrational fear of OMG what if I gain all of this weight back?

Maile
02-11-2012, 10:22 AM
Aloha Cap..Have a wonderful trip to Hawaii. Good luck with your MIL and her Italian cooking. You are focused and can do it. You can always try to eat lots of sauce and pick at the pasta parts! The weather is great over there now.

Pauley: Have fun finding new clothes. I was also thinking of heading to the thrift stores ..I think I have the Feb clothes blues where i am tired of all of my clothes.

Lee: That book is amazing. It is fascinating reading. I was so surprised to read about poverty and starving children coming in with obese mothers.
He really has excellent information. I am half way through the book..so I do not know about his conclusions about low carb. However, as I mentioned earlier, I do question his comment about not eating too much food. Also I am an exercise fanatic..so it was hard to read that exercise will not cure obesity..Interesting that marathon runners steadily gain weight. I am wondering if he is going to say it is the type of food that you eat.
Thanks for sharing that book. I love it!

sunnymae
02-11-2012, 11:25 AM
Hello Beautiful Ladies,

OMG....I'm away a week and I have about an hour of reading to do on our amazing, info filled, thrill a minute, and very funny sometimes... thread!

Capricious--just wanted to let you know that when I took all my IP stuff to France ( I was on ph1 still and needed EVERYTHING) I took everything out of the boxes and put them in ziplock bags. I cut out the face of each box including a side or back panel which had the ingredients on it. I felt that way if customs went thru my luggage and saw all these packets and powders, they could very easily verify the contents. It worked like a charm. They did go thru the luggage (in US they have to insert a message in your luggage stating so) and all went well. Just thought to let you know in case you want to try that.

I'm sure I'll have more comments as I catch up with all the book recommendations, ongoing conversations and tip exchanges. Glad to be back on the forum.

At my end, I've been much more relaxed about maintaining and I have to say...not being stressed about it and trusting myself just a little bit more each day has me less attracted to emotional eating. I found that the stress of worrying all the time about if I was going to gain weight doing this and that, was actually a huge factor in my off day binges. Now I'm having more normal small indulgences throughout the week, so it's not all pent up waiting for a free day. Instead I'm having "free moments" and that seems to satisfy me much better. Having said that....I must watch my alcohol consumption. That is the one thing I have to count and limit. It is my downfall to not caring and reaching out for more sugar. That's my pattern, so I'm glad I've identified my personal culprit. Once we all hone in on that one "thing" that does it to us...it gets much easier.
I weighed in at a surprising 125.9 the other day with my new attitude. My goal (and it doesn't matter to me how long it takes) is to get closer to 119-120, so I can gain 5-6 lbs during the year and be back at 125, rather than 130.
Have a great weekend Girls!
Sunnymae
ps. I do a lot of walking.Have my first exercise class tomorrow after about a year of just not being able to get near a gym....just sayin' in out loud so my arse gets there at 3:30!!!!!

capricious
02-11-2012, 11:46 AM
Well I finally saw 'my' number on the scale this morning. Almost a two pound drop from yesterday morning's weigh in. Went from top of weight range to low- middle and while it is ridiculous that it makes me so joyful I am so truly relieved to see it before we leave for Hawaii tomorrow morning.
pauley- when we went to Jasper at the end of December I wanted to enjoy the hot pools and bought a medium 2 piece suit. I didn't try it on because I just figured that being a swim suit it would fit and three children & a husband don't bear me trying on clothes very well :D I was surprised that it was falling off of me in the pool and also extremely self conscious because I most definitely bear the battle scars of motherhood with a c-section scar, stretch lines etc. It drives me absolutely nuts that I can fit into 2, 4, 6 pants (depends on where they're from) and still be so uncomfortable naked. So, I have settled on the tankini, I'm much more comfortable in it...
jennydoodle- I'm with you on focusing on fat loss rather than weight loss. It's the only thing I can think that will help with above stated problem! You'll have to keep us posted on how the Advocare turns out.
bigpassport:carrot::carrot::cp::cp::cb::cb: Yay!!!! I am so happy for you that the darned scale needle finally moved!!! That's awesome news! Hard work finally pays off!
maile- thank you for your encouragement about Hawaii. I really do believe that it's one of the easier places to go on vacation and stick to a maintenance plan. If only because there are so many like minded individuals around. It does also help my mindset that MIL has decided she is allergic to cheese & dairy. This quite likely means that her meals will be quite healthful as she already doesn't cook with any sodium as FIL has heart issues. Change is always scary as is loss of absolute control. But both can be overcome... still remember pxlkitty's quote 'planning takes the scary out of everything'... so I plan to:
-Go for a jog every morning (have done this almost every time I've gone as my little ones wake SO early ((5am!)) and dh & dd usually want to sleep)
-avoid carbs
- track, track, track
it's a brilliant idea you had to offset a heavier supper with an IP breakfast packet- I will definitely adopt that!
Gika- Please keep posting!! You may feel like you never truly 'joined' this group as your weeks on Phase 4 were spent away and you have been on a reboot since you got back. But here's the thing... you have been maintaining your overall loss for quite a time now... you may want a few extra pounds but the bulk of your weight loss is now maintenance. You are giving a lot of emotional power to food (hey I do it too- I soooo know the feeling ;)) by letting the bread make you feel bad about yourself. Eating bread doesn't make you a bad maintainer unworthy of posting... it makes you a normal maintainer that had some bread. Think of all the weight you have lost and kept off rather than the last few that are still there. You can take care of them... you've come a long way... just keep posting- we are here to support you and when I go off and get myself into a bowl of homemade parmesan bruschetta with a french roll (which is what I did on a non free day in the middle of the week when I was first maintaining) that I was just going to have 'one bite' of and ended up having quite a few more ;) I expect that you will tell me the same thing. It's okay and tomorrow is a new day. And seriously, I really do expect you to be here to tell me that. Because I'm pretty sure it'll happen... cause it does.

jennydoodle
02-11-2012, 03:54 PM
Where else could I turn where people actually understand me?? Please don't feel like you have to walk away ashamed if you go off track. We are here for precisely that reason??


As for feeling bad, keep in mind that is the food that is making you feel that way. If I eat bread, I feel bloated, cranky, and huge... Wheat bread seems to cause other issues, including slowing down my metabolism and generally uncomfortable. So... we can't feel better until we start eating things that don't make us feel that way...
.

Ditto...

jennydoodle
02-11-2012, 03:55 PM
Gika I feel the exact opposite as you about posting on the Maintainers thread. I would never post about a slip up on a newbie thread, but feel I can be totally honest here with friends who have 'been there done that'. So pleeaaase don't stay away because of how you think you will affect us. We are here to help you! Also, it doesn't sound like your cheat was all that bad. Forgive yourself and move on. For whatever reason, my losses on the reboot have been very slow too. Not dramatic like when I originally did IP. The scale was up again this morning:( But overall, I am losing. Even if it's only 1 or 2 lbs a week, it's coming off. Stick with it, you can do it!

Exactly the way I feel! Who better to help you than those of us who have been there?!?! Newbies do not need to hear about this kind of stuff. We are the ones who can handle it.

Gika
02-11-2012, 04:13 PM
Pxlkitty4, Maile, bigpassport, Capricious, I just want to let you guys know that I really appreciate your words and encouragement! I really really do.

I went to bed feeling dejected, but this morning I felt that it was time for the pity party to be over. I have a clear goal now and I will do the work that I need to to achieve it. 123, here I come.





At some point, I came up with a quote. It went something like this. I have to control what I am eating in order to control how I am feeling... If you let the food control the way you feel, the food is winning. Don't beat yourself up. Just realize that it is your body's addiction to carbs and that you have to get past it by changing your meals.

I agree, letting the food control how we feel is an awful thing. I was distraught just thinking about how much I let that slip off affect me emotionally. Also, as you mentioned, I need to remember that I have 5 lbs to struggle with, not 50. That's not quite so intimidating :)
I'm sure you will get back to your comfort zone soon, there's no doubt in my mind that you have what it takes to do it. :)


Gika I feel the exact opposite as you about posting on the Maintainers thread. I would never post about a slip up on a newbie thread, but feel I can be totally honest here with friends who have 'been there done that'. So pleeaaase don't stay away because of how you think you will affect us. We are here to help you! Also, it doesn't sound like your cheat was all that bad. Forgive yourself and move on. For whatever reason, my losses on the reboot have been very slow too. Not dramatic like when I originally did IP. The scale was up again this morning:( But overall, I am losing. Even if it's only 1 or 2 lbs a week, it's coming off. Stick with it, you can do it![/QUOTE]

Thanks, you are right, I absolutely need to move on and get to the finish line now. Actually I think it's great that you're still losing 1-2 lbs a week, it looks like you will get to your goal very soon. My losses had slowed to less than that, but reassessed my routine and I think that there's some room for improvement (as far as what packages to use, etc) and hopefully that will help me get to at least 1 lbs a week. You are doing great on your reboot! I'm re-joining you there :)

Gika..Please keep posting if you feel like it, What you are going through, is what all of us do..we slip..we learn from it, and get back on track. Yes,it is so exhausting to have these cravings for food. You are not discouraging any of us as we all have had the same feelings of discouragement and fear.
I love to ready your posts and enjoy your support.
You may feel better when you chose the Phase you want to be on. For what it is worth, you can lose on Phase 3..just eat low carb the rest of the day.
You are so close to that goal of 123..It is bound to go slower as you get closer.
You can do it. keep telling yourself. your goal is progress not perfection.
Even to this day I can find myself slipping into an irrational fear of OMG what if I gain all of this weight back?

"your goal is progress, not perfection" I love that! Thank you! omg haha it's so funny you say that about gaining the weight back.. this morning as I was pulling up my pants I had this feeling that they might not button up.. CRAZY!!!! how can I be so irrational when it comes to this????
It will be phase 1 for me until I reach 123. I did lose on phase 3 during my first round actually, but if I do again this time around, that'll be a bonus.

Well I finally saw 'my' number on the scale this morning. Almost a two pound drop from yesterday morning's weigh in. Went from top of weight range to low- middle and while it is ridiculous that it makes me so joyful I am so truly relieved to see it before we leave for Hawaii tomorrow morning.

Congratulations! Well, if it makes you so joyfui, it cannot be quite so ridiculous! I totally know how you feel.
I hope your trip is relaxing and fun! Enjoy it! I'm sure that knowing that you are where you want to be will make it all the more enjoyable.

Gika- Please keep posting!! You may feel like you never truly 'joined' this group as your weeks on Phase 4 were spent away and you have been on a reboot since you got back. But here's the thing... you have been maintaining your overall loss for quite a time now... you may want a few extra pounds but the bulk of your weight loss is now maintenance. You are giving a lot of emotional power to food (hey I do it too- I soooo know the feeling ;)) by letting the bread make you feel bad about yourself. Eating bread doesn't make you a bad maintainer unworthy of posting... it makes you a normal maintainer that had some bread. Think of all the weight you have lost and kept off rather than the last few that are still there. You can take care of them... you've come a long way... just keep posting- we are here to support you and when I go off and get myself into a bowl of homemade parmesan bruschetta with a french roll (which is what I did on a non free day in the middle of the week when I was first maintaining) that I was just going to have 'one bite' of and ended up having quite a few more ;) I expect that you will tell me the same thing. It's okay and tomorrow is a new day. And seriously, I really do expect you to be here to tell me that. Because I'm pretty sure it'll happen... cause it does.[/QUOTE]

You know, i just thought about it, I finished the program 2 months ago, and I'm up just 2 lbs from when I finished. That is definitively an accomplishment I need to keep in mind, thanks for reminding me!

I definitively will be here for all of you when or if you ever need the support. I think this is a great community. :)

Paint Lady
02-11-2012, 07:49 PM
I've had issues with this site the past week and haven't been able to get on. I've missed y'all. I had 4 pages to read and was thinking about all of the replies I would post. Now that I'm caught up, I can't remember what I was going to say. Oh! I want an espresso machine! I do remember thinking that.

Pxlkitty4
02-12-2012, 09:04 AM
I've had issues with this site the past week and haven't been able to get on. I've missed y'all. I had 4 pages to read and was thinking about all of the replies I would post. Now that I'm caught up, I can't remember what I was going to say. Oh! I want an espresso machine! I do remember thinking that.

Funny you say that. Hubby was out last night, and i unpacked his bday present and checked it out. I crawled into bed and totally forgot to put it away. Anyway, it was still out when I woke up this morning, so I just made hima cup of coffee. We are both in love! And... The aeroccino milk frothier is amazing. Oh well. He'll get some coffee pods on the actual day. He was totally surprised, even if I screwed up and gave it to him early.

Maile
02-12-2012, 09:20 AM
Gika: That saying is one I keep telling myself. My goal is progress not perfection. It lets me stay positive. I am glad you are feeling better.

Pixl: Does the expresso taste that much better with that new coffee machine? I wonder why. I am glad your husband enjoyed his early BD present.

Paintlady: Glad you are back!

Cap..Have a great trip. It seems like when you are with other people, dinner often not a tiny meal! That is why I have cereal in the morning.

jennydoodle
02-12-2012, 10:53 AM
Funny you say that. Hubby was out last night, and i unpacked his bday present and checked it out. I crawled into bed and totally forgot to put it away. Anyway, it was still out when I woke up this morning, so I just made hima cup of coffee. We are both in love! And... The aeroccino milk frothier is amazing. Oh well. He'll get some coffee pods on the actual day. He was totally surprised, even if I screwed up and gave it to him early.

So glad you guys liked it! I am so in love with my Pixie & Aeroccino. Trust me, you will never want to drink Starbucks again. :D

jennydoodle
02-12-2012, 10:54 AM
I've had issues with this site the past week and haven't been able to get on. I've missed y'all. I had 4 pages to read and was thinking about all of the replies I would post. Now that I'm caught up, I can't remember what I was going to say. Oh! I want an espresso machine! I do remember thinking that.

I have been having problems all week myself. And I did the same thing when catching up on the thread ;)

jennydoodle
02-12-2012, 11:02 AM
Hope everyone is having a good weekend. The Advocare cleanse is going well. I am down to an all time low, 131.4, which puts me down 2.4# in 4 days. Not too shabby. I am basically following an eating plan that is inbetween P2 & P3. My energy is still really good and my workouts are better than they have ever been. I am thinking that getting to 125 is an attainable goal. I still have 20 days left, and 6# in that time seems do-able.

Momto2cs
02-12-2012, 11:32 AM
I am a Size 8 pant, and am comfortably in an 8. I really don't see myself getting down to a Size 6 as a regular size. I'm thrilled and still a little amazed that I'm an 8, considering I started at a 16 and a 10 is previously the absolute thinnest I'd ever been. HTH.

Really? I am also 5'8" and around 150 pounds. I can easily wear a size 6 at the gap, banana republic, Ann Taylor...

I am very muscular, body fat at 17ish %...I was wearing a 10 at 175....

Strange how different we xn all be, based on us sizing!

Paint Lady
02-12-2012, 01:03 PM
Enjoyed myself yesterday. My father-in-law came over and helped us make sausage. The whole day was spent grinding, stuffing, and smoking sausage. Had sushi for lunch and sausage poboys for dinner. Phase 1 today. I didn't even step on the scale this morning. I already know what sodium + carbs does to me. I'm sure tomorrow will be a phase 1 or 2 day as well. It's so cold here this morning that I haven't really accomplished anything. Baseball practice this afternoon for the oldest son. I may bring a blanket.

desperatetolosegirl
02-12-2012, 04:38 PM
Really? I am also 5'8" and around 150 pounds. I can easily wear a size 6 at the gap, banana republic, Ann Taylor...

I am very muscular, body fat at 17ish %...I was wearing a 10 at 175....

Strange how different we xn all be, based on us sizing!

Thanks bigpassport for you reply on the size. Momto2cs, I am amazed too how different we are in sizing. At 143 lbs 5'5'' I am at 27% body fat, but can fit into size 4 pants and jeans now. Your BF at 17% is amazing. I am not sure if I can ever get to that!

Maile
02-13-2012, 07:50 AM
SunnyMae: I am inspired by you getting calmer and more confident with maintenance. That is wonderful.

Desperate2lose: I wear size 6 or 8 and am 128/9 5' 6" My BMI is 22.

Paintlady..I love sushi..I indulged in parmesan and zuccini yesterday and the scale is up a pound. Back to Phase 1 breakfast!

Jennydoodle: Your Advocare seems successful. You are doing so well on maintenance!

Gika. You have been on maintenance for 2 months and are only up 2 pounds. That is excellent. I am currently up a pound and trying to work it down!

Pixl: Enjoy your coffee. I am waiting for my newest shipment in the mail. I am checking out Nashua netritition.

So I am not happy with being up a pound..but today is Monday..I will go to the gym and work it off with a Phase 1 breakfast..I found that Costco frozen blueberries are incredible which I shall have when that pound is down.

jennydoodle
02-13-2012, 09:46 AM
It is SO amazing how different we all are with our sizing. I guess that is why they were never really able to standarize women's sizes like they can with men's. I am 5'-2", weigh between 132-134 and wear a size 4 pretty much across the board. Ann Taylor tends to cut bigger, so I am 2 there. I am also in "small" and "extra-small" tops, dresses etc...

Pauley
02-13-2012, 10:07 AM
I am intrigued by Advocare and sausage making after reading posts this morning. I would like to indulge in both.

Unfortunately, yesterday I indulged in about 3 pounds of frosted sugar cookies. This is why I did not bake one single thing at Christmas time. For Valentine's I decided to be a good mother and make cookies with Cupcake and one of her friends. I just can't resist a sugary treat! Spent my evening in a diabetic coma with a stomache! Serves me right.

Paint Lady
02-13-2012, 11:11 AM
I'm almost 5'5, I think. I weigh between 158 and 162. I wear a size 8 comfortably, can squeeze into a size 6 after a couple of phase 1 days. Not really comfortably though, especially when I first put them on! Most of the 8's are Old Navy, Gap, Levis, and 1 pair of DKNY jeans. I bought a pair of jeans, size 8 from Sam's, I think the brand was Jones something. Those are too big now, but they did fit around Christmas time.

Paint Lady
02-13-2012, 11:19 AM
Pauley, my husband is a big time hunter. We make our own sausage out of a mixture of deer and pork. All season, my husband freezes certain parts of deer and when we have a good cold weekend, we make sausage. Friday night we start thawing the meat. Saturday morning, we grind, season, and stuff the sausage into casing. We have a smoke house where the sausage is smoked at about 170 degrees for 5-6 hours. We then let it hang overnight to cool completely and Sunday is spent vacuum sealing all of it. This past year we raised our own pork. We had a boucherie over Christmas and put up a lot of pork in the freezer. Raising hogs and making sausage is something my husband's family has always done. We're just trying to keep some cajun traditions alive for our kids and we both really enjoy it anyway. My father-in0law's wife isn't in the best of health, so he doesn't really do it anymore at his house. I'm glad he was able to come out and do this with us and our boys.

Pxlkitty4
02-13-2012, 12:28 PM
Pixl: Does the expresso taste that much better with that new coffee machine? I wonder why. I am glad your husband enjoyed his early BD present.


Yes, it's amazing. I just made a latte with pure protein vanilla. I had to scrape some residue off hte bottom when it was done in the aeroccino, but it's SO good. Makes doing those phase 1 days after a cheat day bearable again. If I cna't have fruit/toast for breakfast, at least I can have high protein oatmeal and then a latte a few hours later.

So glad you guys liked it! I am so in love with my Pixie & Aeroccino. Trust me, you will never want to drink Starbucks again. :D

Problem solved! Hubby drank 5 cups yesterday, and said "I don't need starbucks anymore." Here's good riddance to weekend headaches for him.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend. The Advocare cleanse is going well. I am down to an all time low, 131.4, which puts me down 2.4# in 4 days. Not too shabby. I am basically following an eating plan that is inbetween P2 & P3. My energy is still really good and my workouts are better than they have ever been. I am thinking that getting to 125 is an attainable goal. I still have 20 days left, and 6# in that time seems do-able.

WOW! I might have to check that out.

Pixl: Enjoy your coffee. I am waiting for my newest shipment in the mail. I am checking out Nashua netritition.



I just got a few new things from nashua... Here are the things I really like:
- Snackergy BBQ potato zippers.
- Healthsmart chocolate chip cookie
- Healthwise cheddar puffs (white cheddar flavor)
- Cheddar chips

Enjoy!! They are so much cheaper than IP, and some of these products were in silver packages with the SAME font as on the IP products.

jennydoodle
02-13-2012, 03:22 PM
Pxl- I never thought to do a Pure Protein in the aeroccino! Gonna have to try it :) I am desperately missing my lattes as there is no coffee allowed on the cleanse :(

I am totally digging the cleanse. It hasn't really been too bad at all because I am eating in-between P2 & P3 so it isn't anything that I am unfamiliar with, but it has really been a great mental boost. I finally feel like I have that "back in the game" mentality and am no longer picking and nibbling on every treat I see. And now that it is out of my system, I no longer want it. Halleluah! I feel like it gave me the boost I needed to get back on track from the holiday train wreck. I am still hanging out at 131.4, which is fine by me. Even if I don't lose another pound, I feel like it has been a success simply for helping me get back mentally.

So, I finally finished "Wheat Belly" over the weekend. It was a worthwhile read. Some parts were a little too scientific for me, but all in all, it confirmed to me what I had felt all along. And that was, wheat does bad things to me. Now, they encourage everybody to cut out wheat, but I don't think it has to go that far. I just know that I am one of those people adversly affected by grains. I have done my own little experiments and I know that I feel really crappy when I eat it. But that is me. I don't think it affects everyone though. But they really confirm what we already know, that carbs and sugar really are the enemy. And if you want to lose, you have to lose the carbs.

I know we have talked about it in the past, but another worthwhile read is "Eat right for your blood type". I kind of feel like the whole wheat thing and the blood type thing go hand in hand. It does seem to be that a lot of Type O people are more sensitive than others to wheat and grains. My husband is Type B and he has absolutely no issues with wheat or grains, which also coinsides with what ERFYBT says. For me, eating wheat, grains sugar just leads me to want to eat more. They definitely go into this in WB and it really resonated with me. Because if I can get it out of my system, I NEVER want it. As soon as I allow myself one small taste, forget about it. The cravings are back! I had been having granola / oatmeal for P3 bfast, but had to cut it out for the cleanse. As soon as the cleanse is over, I am going to see if this affects me as well. I hope not, because I LOVE fage & granola. But I will definitely need to do another experiment post cleanse.

cajunladybug22
02-13-2012, 03:23 PM
Cap The scale moved today! According to my coach's scale, I was down 6 lbs on the second week of reboot.

Awesome!!! So glad to hear it's paying off!!!


Well, I've had a few rough days lately, and today I finally completely sabotaged myself by eating off plan.

Glad you came here for support....we all struggle every day and that's why we're here. To support each other and keep each other motivated. :)

Where else could I turn where people actually understand me?? Please don't feel like you have to walk away ashamed if you go off track. We are here for precisely that reason?? .

Amen! Well said!!!

Well I finally saw 'my' number on the scale this morning. Almost a two pound drop from yesterday morning's weigh in. Went from top of weight range to low- middle and while it is ridiculous that it makes me so joyful I am so truly relieved to see it before we leave for Hawaii tomorrow morning.


Awesome!!! Hope you're having a great trip!

Hope everyone is having a good weekend. The Advocare cleanse is going well. I am down to an all time low, 131.4, which puts me down 2.4# in 4 days. Not too shabby. I am basically following an eating plan that is inbetween P2 & P3. My energy is still really good and my workouts are better than they have ever been. I am thinking that getting to 125 is an attainable goal. I still have 20 days left, and 6# in that time seems do-able.

This sounds like a good plan! A girl at my daughter's daycare sells advocare. I might have to look into it.

Pauley, my husband is a big time hunter. We make our own sausage out of a mixture of deer and pork. All season, my husband freezes certain parts of deer and when we have a good cold weekend, we make sausage. Friday night we start thawing the meat. Saturday morning, we grind, season, and stuff the sausage into casing. We have a smoke house where the sausage is smoked at about 170 degrees for 5-6 hours. We then let it hang overnight to cool completely and Sunday is spent vacuum sealing all of it. This past year we raised our own pork. We had a boucherie over Christmas and put up a lot of pork in the freezer. Raising hogs and making sausage is something my husband's family has always done. We're just trying to keep some cajun traditions alive for our kids and we both really enjoy it anyway.

Love Cajun traditions. :) I want to introduce my (18mo old) daughter to as many of them as possible. How cool!


As for my reboot, it's going fairly well. I was "hangry" for the first 3 or 4 days, but getting better now. Since Wed, I'm down almos 4lbs. :) That totally keeps me motivated and I'm ready to get the mommy apron off. Hope everyone is having a great Monday. We got snow last night, but the roads weren't bad this morning. I'm ready for it to get back to the 60's like it was a couple weeks ago!

bigpassport
02-13-2012, 06:29 PM
I just got a few new things from nashua... Here are the things I really like:
- Snackergy BBQ potato zippers.
- Healthsmart chocolate chip cookie
- Healthwise cheddar puffs (white cheddar flavor)
- Cheddar chips

Enjoy!! They are so much cheaper than IP, and some of these products were in silver packages with the SAME font as on the IP products.

Please tell..which ones were the same packaging?

patns
02-13-2012, 08:50 PM
Pxl-So, I finally finished "Wheat Belly" over the weekend. It was a worthwhile read. Some parts were a little too scientific for me, but all in all, it confirmed to me what I had felt all along. And that was, wheat does bad things to me. Now, they encourage everybody to cut out wheat, but I don't think it has to go that far. I just know that I am one of those people adversly affected by grains. I have done my own little experiments and I know that I feel really crappy when I eat it. But that is me. I don't think it affects everyone though. But they really confirm what we already know, that carbs and sugar really are the enemy. And if you want to lose, you have to lose the carbs.
.

I agree with you on this. I have the same issues with wheat as you do. Instant weight gain and totally drains energy.
But both my adult daughter and elderly mother eat diets with lots of grains and have no weight issues. My daughter is a vegetarian. If I was one I know I'd gain a huge amount of weight.
It is best to really monitor what has an impact on your own body instead of overkill of the same things for everyone.

Pat

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
02-13-2012, 09:41 PM
I'm almost 5'5, I think. I weigh between 158 and 162. I wear a size 8 comfortably, can squeeze into a size 6 after a couple of phase 1 days. Not really comfortably though, especially when I first put them on! Most of the 8's are Old Navy, Gap, Levis, and 1 pair of DKNY jeans. I bought a pair of jeans, size 8 from Sam's, I think the brand was Jones something. Those are too big now, but they did fit around Christmas time.

I am 5'5 as well and fit a size 8 at 160 have a couple 6's that I can wear but am pretty happy with a 8.

It has been a while since I have been on; life and work is getting in the way. As you all know I have been having issues with gaining... well something weird happened last week... I was on training and even though I ate healthy, I wasn't totally on Plan. I was doing a little phase 3 breakfast, just a bagel and peanut butter (of course) and cream cheese a couple of days... but here is where it was different, I also had the IP drinks for breakfast at about 7 then the bagel at around 10 and then lunch 12 which was usually a salad, then 3 out of the 4 nights I had a drink or two with supper, I did have a snack in the hotel at around 10 (akins snack bars) 2 of the nights and one night had a very bad snack of potato chips just a couple small handfuls. Before I left last week I was at 167.5 today I weighed in today and was 161. So am wondering what the heck... I was drinking lots of water but also lots of coffee, and a couple with sugar in it. and friday worked late and couldn't find anything at the mac store except a chicken wrap to eat, and some smoked almonds.
I felt totally horrible for being off diet so much I was worried about how much I had gained.
What do I do next? continue with with phase 1 or go to phase 3. Called into work today on my day off and had to cancel my appointment with my IP Coach. Was I in starvation mode or just not eating what my body needs right now? I too thing grains are not good for me either as when I started having toast for breakfast was when I started gaining.. funny thing is I am O- as well so I am thinking there is something with this.
Thank you all.

Momto2cs
02-13-2012, 11:54 PM
I am o- and I also don't find grains agree with me.
I feel like I might just have to stay in phase 1 forever...

Maile
02-14-2012, 08:18 AM
Pxl- I never thought to do a Pure Protein in the aeroccino! Gonna have to try it :) I am desperately missing my lattes as there is no coffee allowed on the cleanse :(

I am totally digging the cleanse. It hasn't really been too bad at all because I am eating in-between P2 & P3 so it isn't anything that I am unfamiliar with, but it has really been a great mental boost. I finally feel like I have that "back in the game" mentality and am no longer picking and nibbling on every treat I see. And now that it is out of my system, I no longer want it. Halleluah! I feel like it gave me the boost I needed to get back on track from the holiday train wreck. I am still hanging out at 131.4, which is fine by me. Even if I don't lose another pound, I feel like it has been a success simply for helping me get back mentally.

So, I finally finished "Wheat Belly" over the weekend. It was a worthwhile read. Some parts were a little too scientific for me, but all in all, it confirmed to me what I had felt all along. And that was, wheat does bad things to me. Now, they encourage everybody to cut out wheat, but I don't think it has to go that far. I just know that I am one of those people adversly affected by grains. I have done my own little experiments and I know that I feel really crappy when I eat it. But that is me. I don't think it affects everyone though. But they really confirm what we already know, that carbs and sugar really are the enemy. And if you want to lose, you have to lose the carbs.

I know we have talked about it in the past, but another worthwhile read is "Eat right for your blood type". I kind of feel like the whole wheat thing and the blood type thing go hand in hand. It does seem to be that a lot of Type O people are more sensitive than others to wheat and grains. My husband is Type B and he has absolutely no issues with wheat or grains, which also coinsides with what ERFYBT says. For me, eating wheat, grains sugar just leads me to want to eat more. They definitely go into this in WB and it really resonated with me. Because if I can get it out of my system, I NEVER want it. As soon as I allow myself one small taste, forget about it. The cravings are back! I had been having granola / oatmeal for P3 bfast, but had to cut it out for the cleanse. As soon as the cleanse is over, I am going to see if this affects me as well. I hope not, because I LOVE fage & granola. But I will definitely need to do another experiment post cleanse.
Jennydoodle: I just finished Wheat belly also. I agree with him about the negative effect of wheat..and my husband is a wheat farmer no less. What I have trouble with is that he only wants tiny amounts of fruit..10 blueberries as he says it raises your blood sugar. I love my one cup of berries.
I will have to look for that other book.

Maile
02-14-2012, 08:22 AM
I am 5'5 as well and fit a size 8 at 160 have a couple 6's that I can wear but am pretty happy with a 8.

It has been a while since I have been on; life and work is getting in the way. As you all know I have been having issues with gaining... well something weird happened last week... I was on training and even though I ate healthy, I wasn't totally on Plan. I was doing a little phase 3 breakfast, just a bagel and peanut butter (of course) and cream cheese a couple of days... but here is where it was different, I also had the IP drinks for breakfast at about 7 then the bagel at around 10 and then lunch 12 which was usually a salad, then 3 out of the 4 nights I had a drink or two with supper, I did have a snack in the hotel at around 10 (akins snack bars) 2 of the nights and one night had a very bad snack of potato chips just a couple small handfuls. Before I left last week I was at 167.5 today I weighed in today and was 161. So am wondering what the heck... I was drinking lots of water but also lots of coffee, and a couple with sugar in it. and friday worked late and couldn't find anything at the mac store except a chicken wrap to eat, and some smoked almonds.
I felt totally horrible for being off diet so much I was worried about how much I had gained.
What do I do next? continue with with phase 1 or go to phase 3. Called into work today on my day off and had to cancel my appointment with my IP Coach. Was I in starvation mode or just not eating what my body needs right now? I too thing grains are not good for me either as when I started having toast for breakfast was when I started gaining.. funny thing is I am O- as well so I am thinking there is something with this.
Thank you all.
That Wheat belly really convinced me. Of course when you read that the gluten in wheat causes a higher blood sugar spike than sugar, you certainly pay attention.
No matter how you did it, I am glad you lost weight! Good for you.

Maile
02-14-2012, 08:25 AM
Pixle: Thanks for that information for Nashua. I will include them in my next order. Of course now I am going to see if my Nashua and low carb products have wheat in them. If they do, I only have wheat once a day.

Pauley..I hope you are out of your Valentine coma and feeling better. I am sure your husband and I will be surrounded by V day parties and sugar.

Cajunlady..Glad that your reboot is going well. I am up a pound and trying to get it back down.

Pxlkitty4
02-14-2012, 08:44 AM
Pxl- I never thought to do a Pure Protein in the aeroccino! Gonna have to try it :) I am desperately missing my lattes as there is no coffee allowed on the cleanse :(


So, I finally finished "Wheat Belly" over the weekend. It was a worthwhile read. Some parts were a little too scientific for me, but all in all, it confirmed to me what I had felt all along. And that was, wheat does bad things to me. Now, they encourage everybody to cut out wheat, but I don't think it has to go that far. I just know that I am one of those people adversly affected by grains. I have done my own little experiments and I know that I feel really crappy when I eat it. But that is me. I don't think it affects everyone though. But they really confirm what we already know, that carbs and sugar really are the enemy. And if you want to lose, you have to lose the carbs.



No coffee??!@?!@? Wow. That is brave. I have to read Wheat Belly now. What do they say about sprouted grained?

Please tell..which ones were the same packaging?

Proti-thin sea salt and vinegar soy snacks
Snackergy BBQ zippers.

Before I left last week I was at 167.5 today I weighed in today and was 161. So am wondering what the heck... I was drinking lots of water but also lots of coffee, and a couple with sugar in it. and friday worked late and couldn't find anything at the mac store except a chicken wrap to eat, and some smoked almonds.
I felt totally horrible for being off diet so much I was worried about how much I had gained.


Wait. You lost?? I'm confused. Go to phase 3 if you lost.


Pixle: Thanks for that information for Nashua. I will include them in my next order. Of course now I am going to see if my Nashua and low carb products have wheat in them. If they do, I only have wheat once a day.


You are most welcome.

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
02-14-2012, 10:12 AM
Thanks Pxlkitty - yep I was pretty shocked myself... of course not where I want to be but I will get there eventually.. I ordered last night from Nashua as well and got the bbq zippers, hopefully they are good as you say they are. Also ordered oatmeal as I have found I miss that for breakfast. I also like their mochoccino drink mix so going to try that as well.
I am thinking the key for me is having little meals throughout the day, I mean I was doing that but not as many, maybe that is the drink have 4 or 5 small meals, and having soup for supper is something I have been doing a lot.

Have a great day all.

jennydoodle
02-14-2012, 10:13 AM
No coffee??!@?!@? Wow. That is brave. I have to read Wheat Belly now. What do they say about sprouted grained?

ALL grains = B.A.D.

Yes, no coffee :( But only for the first 10 days. I am actually doing better than I thought I would.

By the way, I am also blood type O (+).

2Ride- Get yourself on P3, pronto! It seems like your body does better with a little more carbs vs. a little less. I think you said you were also blood type O, if so, try doing P3 without wheat and see what happens. I usually have eggs, apple w/ peanut butter and fage w/granola as a wheat free b-fast.

On day 7 of my cleanse and still feeling really good. Still hanging around at 131.4, which is good. After day 10, I am going to take my measurements and BF, so hopefully there will be some good news to report ;)

bigpassport
02-14-2012, 10:30 AM
2Ride What a nice surprise to see weight loss on a business trip! Are you at your goal weight now? Or are you thinking you will continue to lose on P3?

Pxl Thanks for the info on Nashua Nutrition. I wonder about IP's claim that they use super high quality protein in their foods which distinguishes them from other brands. Part of me thinks it's just marketing, but part of me kind of believes it. There IS something magic about IP.

Jenny So what are your thoughts now about carbs and sugar once you are done with Advocare? Are you planning to maintain on Phase 4? Cheat days? Are you really thinking about never eating sugar?

Update on my reboot (two and a half weeks on P1 now)--I am down to 137.4, which is my normal post-weight loss P4 maintenance weight. Happy Valentines Day to me! My all time low on IP last summer was 134, so since I am in the P1 groove, I think I'll try to get back down to that. I am struggling with what my diet will be in P4. One thought is to find my carb tolerance in grams per day a la Dr. Atkins. Another thought is to just trust that P4 works and follow it. But even when doing P4 last time--although it worked--I struggled with how much carbs to have. For example, muffins (I'd much rather have a muffin than pasta or potato or rice). I can make fat free muffins to separate carbs from fat as instructed on P4, but should I also make them lower carb with Splenda? In other words, even if I am separating carbs and fat, should I still make an effort to reduce my carbs as much as possible? Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Happy Valentine's Day everyone!

Maile
02-14-2012, 10:54 AM
Lee. Congrats on reaching 137. You are doing well. I would go with the lowest possble carb version and use splenda. ..Of course I have just infused myself with the wheat belly and How we get fat books which are pushing low carb.

Happy V Day everyone.

My husband and I are foregoing our celebration..No chamapgane tonight..sigh..He is up 2 lbs and I have not lost my one pound up! I already have received too many chocolates at school and the kids aren't even here!

gettinmygrooveback
02-14-2012, 11:42 AM
Just wanted to add my two cents to the "Eat Right for your Blood Type" theroy (I meant to do this a while back)

I am an A negative....one of the rarer blood types. I read the book many years ago. Basically stating that I would fair well on a vegetarian diet of soy proteins, grains and vegetables. The description of me was dead on. I attempted to incorporate more soy into my diet and eliminated red meat all together. My hair started falling out by the handfuls and I gained weight. :( This was before I knew of my thyroid condition. I stopped soy, my weight stabilized and over time, I thick hair returned. I am very, very sensitive to carbs and dairy creates way too much muscus in my body.

Confused? Me too.....story of my life! I have had two physicians tell me that "I'm a special recipe" and I'm the only one who will be able to figure out those ingredients.

Gika
02-14-2012, 01:29 PM
So I am not happy with being up a pound..but today is Monday..I will go to the gym and work it off with a Phase 1 breakfast..I found that Costco frozen blueberries are incredible which I shall have when that pound is down.

I know you are not happy with that one pound, but it's really nice that it's not more than that! and to see your determination to lose it is inspiring. What do you usually do at the gym?




I know we have talked about it in the past, but another worthwhile read is "Eat right for your blood type". I kind of feel like the whole wheat thing and the blood type thing go hand in hand. It does seem to be that a lot of Type O people are more sensitive than others to wheat and grains. My husband is Type B and he has absolutely no issues with wheat or grains, which also coinsides with what ERFYBT says. For me, eating wheat, grains sugar just leads me to want to eat more. They definitely go into this in WB and it really resonated with me. Because if I can get it out of my system, I NEVER want it. As soon as I allow myself one small taste, forget about it. The cravings are back! I had been having granola / oatmeal for P3 bfast, but had to cut it out for the cleanse. As soon as the cleanse is over, I am going to see if this affects me as well. I hope not, because I LOVE fage & granola. But I will definitely need to do another experiment post cleanse.

I'm intrigued by this book. I will have to read it soon. I'm type O- but I'm not sure I've noticed any significant problem with grains. I love all sorts of lentils, beans and corn. I guess when I re-introduce them I will have to pay attention to how they make me feel.


As for my reboot, it's going fairly well. I was "hangry" for the first 3 or 4 days, but getting better now. Since Wed, I'm down almos 4lbs. :) That totally keeps me motivated and I'm ready to get the mommy apron off. Hope everyone is having a great Monday. We got snow last night, but the roads weren't bad this morning. I'm ready for it to get back to the 60's like it was a couple weeks ago!

Haha, the term "hangry" really makes me laugh.. it's so true!
Glad your reboot is going well!


What do I do next? continue with with phase 1 or go to phase 3. Called into work today on my day off and had to cancel my appointment with my IP Coach. Was I in starvation mode or just not eating what my body needs right now? I too thing grains are not good for me either as when I started having toast for breakfast was when I started gaining.. funny thing is I am O- as well so I am thinking there is something with this.
Thank you all.

In my opinion.. you should probably continue doing what is helping you lose the weight! That was a great loss in such a short time.

2Ride
Update on my reboot (two and a half weeks on P1 now)--I am down to 137.4, which is my normal post-weight loss P4 maintenance weight. Happy Valentines Day to me! My all time low on IP last summer was 134, so since I am in the P1 groove, I think I'll try to get back down to that. I am struggling with what my diet will be in P4. One thought is to find my carb tolerance in grams per day a la Dr. Atkins. Another thought is to just trust that P4 works and follow it. But even when doing P4 last time--although it worked--I struggled with how much carbs to have. For example, muffins (I'd much rather have a muffin than pasta or potato or rice). I can make fat free muffins to separate carbs from fat as instructed on P4, but should I also make them lower carb with Splenda? In other words, even if I am separating carbs and fat, should I still make an effort to reduce my carbs as much as possible? Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Happy Valentine's Day everyone!

Unfortunately I don't have much experience with phase 4, but my plan is to follow it as it is outlined and then tweak it as needed. The old thread "Life after phase 1" has some info on what other people have done during phase 4 that works for them. My thoughts on the amount of carbs.. well, I think that it is wise and necessary to reduce the amount of carbs in phase 4, but to what extent will probably vary from person to person. The good thing about the program is that your pancreas is reprogrammed to deal with them better. Personally if I were to eat muffins I would probably have them as a once in a while treat and therefore choose to make them with regular sugar.. but that's just mostly because I'm not a huge fan of using splenda so much... that is the one thing about IP that I'm not thrilled about -the amount of splenda used in the packets- but I understand it is necessary.
Glad to hear your reboot is going so well!

Gika
02-14-2012, 01:40 PM
Well, re-reboot is going well so far. I'm staying away from the scale for now though.. I really don't feel I could handle to see something higher than 128, so I'll wait a couple of days.

jennydoodle
02-14-2012, 02:09 PM
Jenny So what are your thoughts now about carbs and sugar once you are done with Advocare? Are you planning to maintain on Phase 4? Cheat days? Are you really thinking about never eating sugar?

Update on my reboot (two and a half weeks on P1 now)--I am down to 137.4, which is my normal post-weight loss P4 maintenance weight. Happy Valentines Day to me! My all time low on IP last summer was 134, so since I am in the P1 groove, I think I'll try to get back down to that. I am struggling with what my diet will be in P4. One thought is to find my carb tolerance in grams per day a la Dr. Atkins. Another thought is to just trust that P4 works and follow it. But even when doing P4 last time--although it worked--I struggled with how much carbs to have. For example, muffins (I'd much rather have a muffin than pasta or potato or rice). I can make fat free muffins to separate carbs from fat as instructed on P4, but should I also make them lower carb with Splenda? In other words, even if I am separating carbs and fat, should I still make an effort to reduce my carbs as much as possible? Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Happy Valentine's Day everyone!

Once I am done with the Advocare cleanse, I am going to go back to what I was doing before the holiday madness and aftermath. Which is pretty much following P3 during the week and letting up a little bit on the weekends. I do not have full blown cheat days, except for special occasions. I am just a little less strict on the weekends, and usually have some extra carbs.

This works for me on so many different levels. 1st- Now that I am on maintenance, I absolutely hate doing P1 days. So following this format, I very rarely have to do a P1 day because my weight is stabilized. 2nd- For me, too much cheating leads to excessive cheating where I start down the path of feeling like I need to eat everything under the sun on that one day. I fair much better with treats here and there and small indulgences on any given day than to load them up on any one day.

Yes, I plan to try to stay as "sugar-free" as possible, and absolutely wheat free. Both wheat and sugar do bad, bad things to me and I do not like the way I feel, so I do try to avoid them. Only on the above stated "special occassions" do I indulge.

You mentioned about finding your "carb threshold". I have found that I am very sensitive to carbs and that found that by eating lower for a majority of the week (P3), then if I eat a little more on the weekends (not mega cheats, just a small indulgence), I do not gain weight. So I feel like I have found my threshold and found the way I will eat 95% of the time.

I also don't really worry too much about the separation of carbs and fat. I feel like since I mostly follow P3, the 1 or 2 meals that I have during the week that are more splurge-y, aren't really going to make a difference. And quite frankly, I haven't seen a difference at all. Even through all of the holiday eating, I was still able to stay in my comfort window the whole time. I just felt like I needed something to help reign me in and get me back to healthy habits, as I was getting very liberal with bites and nibbles.

Pauley
02-14-2012, 03:19 PM
Okay, I am no longer interested in Advocare. No coffee for 10 days would turn me into a screaming shrew!

Passport - way to go on the quick weight loss! Glad you made it back to maintenance weight so soon.

Paint Lady, thanks for sharing the info about sausage making. Very interesting. What is "boucherie?"

2Ride - ate more/lost more??? Why doesn't that ever happen to me? Congrats on your big loss.

There hasn't been one bit of chocolate here at the office yet, thank goodness. I'm sure my husband is getting plenty of treats. He just better not bring them home! I think he's taking his girls out to Thai for V-day tonight. I should be able to eat reasonably there.

Holding steady, no gain or loss the last month. Maybe 158 is where I'll stay. Frankly though, the only reason I'm not gaining is the copious amounts of exercise. Hope I can keep that up!

patns
02-14-2012, 03:40 PM
Joanne, maybe next time we can get together to put in a Nashua order.
On another thread a group of 3 from sask said they do that. They said it really cuts down on the shipping costs.
I sent for an order the third week in Jan and finally got it yesterday. It was $95 for products, $34 for shipping and $13 for duty at the post office.

As for which of the products are the same as IP, so far any snack items I ordered from there are the same. The bars were wrapped and marked the same. This time I got chili lime soy puffs which is again packaged and marked as the IP stuff is.
gettingmygrove...very interesting on your comment about dairy creating too much mucus. i noticed as soon as I have much yogurt which I love I soon get sinus and ear infections.
My doctor at the time told me there was no connection between dairy and those infections. But I knew if I watched the dairy I didn't get them.
I actually lost my first 40 pounds by cutting out wheat 10 years ago. I was 204 at that time when I realized wheat was giving me sharp weight gains and draining my energy.
So with the double whammy of wheat and dairy I'm not looking forward to phase 3. I'll have to work it out without those two elements.

MustangMolly
02-14-2012, 04:13 PM
Hi, I am still a phase 1 IP'er but thought I would share this "potato" salad recipe using cauliflower for those on maintenance.

2 Cups of steamed Cauliflower
3 Hard boiled eggs
1/3 C. Mayonnaise
1/3 C. Miracle Whip
1 teas. Yellow Mustard
1/4 Cup Chopped red onions



Directions
Makes approx. 8 - 1/2 cup servings.

Chop steamed cauliflower the size you would chop the potato pieces. Dice hard boiled eggs very finely and add to the cauliflower. Add chopped red onions then mix in the mayonnaise, miracle whip, mustard and then add salt and pepper to taste and finally sprinkle with paprika for color.

Store in refrigerator. (makes 8 servings)

It is 94.3 calories, 7.4 fat grams, 2.8 net carbs, 175.4 mg sodium, 82.9 mg cholesterol adn 3.1 g protein per serving.

Pxlkitty4
02-14-2012, 05:08 PM
This works for me on so many different levels. 1st- Now that I am on maintenance, I absolutely hate doing P1 days. So following this format, I very rarely have to do a P1 day because my weight is stabilized.

I am thinking I might need a reboot for exactly this same reason... I was doing so well from Sept-December last year. The holiday madness got to me, and I had two weekends in December where I had 1.5 cheat days. I think the reboot might get things back under control. I'm also feeling too guilty about food. I want my cheat day but don't feel like I deserve it... go a few days of being good, then blow it on something small and the weight goes back up. Hmmm. Haven't decided exactly, but I'm going to give it some serious thought.

We are going to NY this weekend and I will consider starting it when I get back.

OneGuyonIP
02-14-2012, 06:11 PM
I will be starting Phase 3 tomorrow. My coach said I might see 2 to 5 pound gain, but I am okay with that. I thought phasing out would be very exciting, but it is turning out to be a little anxiety-causing. Life on phases 1 and 2 was so easy once I got into a routine, which was months ago. Now, something new. My palate has changed to the point that I can detect hidden sugar in food, regardless of the amount. I feel like I am one of those truffle-smelling hogs who can sniff out truffles under several feet of dirt.

So, any advice or resources you would like to share or point me to would be great.

Thanks. Don.

bigpassport
02-14-2012, 06:29 PM
Personally if I were to eat muffins I would probably have them as a once in a while treat and therefore choose to make them with regular sugar.. but that's just mostly because I'm not a huge fan of using splenda so much... that is the one thing about IP that I'm not thrilled about -the amount of splenda used in the packets- but I understand it is necessary.

I have the same discomfort with too much artificial sweeteners. I feel like if I've lost weight to be healthy and want to maintain to keep healthy, why would I make artificial sweetners a regular part of my diet? I guess I should research the dangers.

Paint Lady
02-14-2012, 10:07 PM
I will be starting Phase 3 tomorrow. My coach said I might see 2 to 5 pound gain, but I am okay with that. I thought phasing out would be very exciting, but it is turning out to be a little anxiety-causing. Life on phases 1 and 2 was so easy once I got into a routine, which was months ago. Now, something new. My palate has changed to the point that I can detect hidden sugar in food, regardless of the amount. I feel like I am one of those truffle-smelling hogs who can sniff out truffles under several feet of dirt.

So, any advice or resources you would like to share or point me to would be great.

Thanks. Don.

The best advice I can give you is to enjoy phase 3. It's absolutely wonderful. I love breakfast now and really miss it when I have to do a phase 1 day. Stay away from the scale and just eat what you are supposed to eat. Do you have the sample menus for phase 3 and the guidelines? If not, I believe they are in the stickies.

Paint Lady
02-14-2012, 10:11 PM
Boucherie is basically a "butchering a hog/pig party". It takes help, so a few friends and family show up to help. I can go into really graphic detail, but that may not be appreciated by everyone here. If you are interested in the details, send me a PM, lol. Or, you can google cajun boucherie.

Pauley
02-14-2012, 10:21 PM
Ha! I don't think I want to hear the gruesome details! My husband has really been wanting to raise a pig to butcher, but I don't think I or the neighbors would like it! Plus all that bacon would wreak havoc on my diet.

Don, you cracked me up with your truffle smelling hog comment! I feel that way about sugar too. After phase 1 - you can taste even the smallest amount! Phase 3 is awesome. I still lost on phase 3 and 4, so not everyone gains.

Thanks for the cauliflower salad recipe Mustang. I am going to try it. I love love love potato salad, but haven't had any in 8 months!

bigpassport
02-14-2012, 11:06 PM
I will be starting Phase 3 tomorrow. My coach said I might see 2 to 5 pound gain, but I am okay with that. I thought phasing out would be very exciting, but it is turning out to be a little anxiety-causing. Life on phases 1 and 2 was so easy once I got into a routine, which was months ago. Now, something new. My palate has changed to the point that I can detect hidden sugar in food, regardless of the amount. I feel like I am one of those truffle-smelling hogs who can sniff out truffles under several feet of dirt.

So, any advice or resources you would like to share or point me to would be great.

Thanks. Don.

My advice for P3 is enjoy it, stick to the plan, and figure out what you're going to be eating on P4! P3 is still very structured, it's P4 that's a puzzler. Ask your coach for the P4 materials now.

Maile
02-15-2012, 07:43 AM
Hi Gika..I do a weight lifting circuit, then elliptical or treadmill. It is funny..that 128 is what I also want to see on my scale. I am down the pound and seeing it. I am glad your reboot is going well.

MustangMollie: Thanks for the cauliflower recipe!!! Much appreciated.

Ok girls..My motto for the day is old trigger new response. So I was doing fine surrounded by V goodies in every class I went into. Then I went into a speciality candy store for my son. There it was..I thought to myself you know I could eat all ten of these things. So I got out of there and later had a package of cocoa almonds.

Don..I would say everyone here felt anxious about changing phases! You really do get used to the new Phase pretty quickly! You do not necessarily gain in Phase 3. That is funny about sniffing out sugar. I try to stay away from it also. I tried to stay low calorie low carb on the Phase 3 breakfasts.

Pxlkitty4
02-15-2012, 08:10 AM
I'm going off wheat. Stay tuned for my report in a few days. Weight is 153.0. Grr. I have a cold and work is stressful. Mother in law comes today and I have a lot to do before she gets here. One of those days where I really wish the full time job was a little less "full".

jennydoodle
02-15-2012, 09:51 AM
[QUOTE=Pxlkitty4;4216726]I'm going off wheat.[QUOTE]

Hurray! Definitely keep us posted. It could take up to 3 days before it is completely out of your system, so don't dispair. Also, be aware of hidden wheat- it is in just about every single bread- even Ezekiel.

bigpassport
02-15-2012, 10:00 AM
I'm going off wheat. Stay tuned for my report in a few days. Weight is 153.0. Grr. I have a cold and work is stressful. Mother in law comes today and I have a lot to do before she gets here. One of those days where I really wish the full time job was a little less "full".

Hang in there sister. I totally sympathize with overly stressful work. And I'm coming down with a cold too:( Good luck with going wheat free, I'll be interested to hear how you feel.

As for me, I have been diligently studying for what to eat when I go back on maintenance. I went through the original Maintainers thread and found I had posted that at 1400 calories and less than 100g of carbs per day I was still losing weight which allowed me flexibility to have a cheat day followed by a P1 or P2 day and not worry about overeating or having a slip up during the week. Yay! I already had my formula, I just forgot I created it. Now if I can just get a few more pesky pounds to come off on this reboot...

Pxlkitty4
02-15-2012, 10:06 AM
[QUOTE=Pxlkitty4;4216726]I'm going off wheat.[QUOTE]

Hurray! Definitely keep us posted. It could take up to 3 days before it is completely out of your system, so don't dispair. Also, be aware of hidden wheat- it is in just about every single bread- even Ezekiel.

Hang in there sister. I totally sympathize with overly stressful work. And I'm coming down with a cold too:( Good luck with going wheat free, I'll be interested to hear how you feel.


thanks everyone. I am off Friday and we are going to NY for fun. Sucky time to have a cold. February is cursed for me... Every year, I get sick 2-3 times. Argh!!

I just made a dr appt for this afternoon. I realized that I need help fighting this stupid thing.

MAINTAINisGoal
02-15-2012, 10:27 AM
[QUOTE=MAINTAINisGoal;4211294]
I have taken two trips to Hawaii and maintained my weight. You can do it. I ate lots of Asian food for lunch and dinner..stayed away from rice. Also there are some excellent fish dishes on the menus.
Since the weather is warm, I walked everyday for exercise.
I also took IP crispy cereal packets so that I could have that for breakfast on days when the dinner might not have been quite optimum health.

Costco is a great resource for saving money over there!

Have a wonderful trip!

Thanks for your ideas with Asian food for lunch and dinner. We plan on stopping at Costco... what are some items you found there that helped with "thoughtful maintenance" while vacationing in paradise?

sherylynn
02-15-2012, 10:38 AM
Hi Maintainers,

I'm certainly not here yet, but hope to be some day. I just posted this in the daily chat but thought you might not see it there and clueless on how to link to another area.

I'm a huge fan of Dr. Hyman and thought you might enjoy a blog article of his on wheat and why it makes us fat. I know I'm one of those especially wheat and sugar sensitive people, so I'll be avoiding both during maintenance.

He has even created a new term linking the obesity and diabetic epidemic we are seeing - diabesity.

http://drhyman.com/three-hidden-ways-wheat-makes-you-fat-8425/?utm_source=Publicaster&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=drhyman%20newsletter%20issue%20#56&utm_content=Get+the+story

Have a great day!

cajunladybug22
02-15-2012, 11:52 AM
As for me, I have been diligently studying for what to eat when I go back on maintenance. I went through the original Maintainers thread and found I had posted that at 1400 calories and less than 100g of carbs per day I was still losing weight which allowed me flexibility to have a cheat day followed by a P1 or P2 day and not worry about overeating or having a slip up during the week. Yay! I already had my formula, I just forgot I created it. Now if I can just get a few more pesky pounds to come off on this reboot...

Thanks for posting!! I might use your formula as a starting point when I get on maintenance again. :) How long are you doing the reboot again? I have one week officially done, and I lost 4.4lbs. :)

Hi Maintainers,
I'm a huge fan of Dr. Hyman and thought you might enjoy a blog article of his on wheat and why it makes us fat. I know I'm one of those especially wheat and sugar sensitive people, so I'll be avoiding both during maintenance.

He has even created a new term linking the obesity and diabetic epidemic we are seeing - diabesity.

http://drhyman.com/three-hidden-ways-wheat-makes-you-fat-8425/?utm_source=Publicaster&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=drhyman%20newsletter%20issue%20#56&utm_content=Get+the+story


Thanks for posting!! Very interesting.


PIXL-hang in there...I hope the doc has some good stuff that clears you up fast! And hope you can get all your stuff done before MIL gets there. Don't stress though...it'll all work out.

As for me, just hanging in there. I seem to be getting hungry again between meals, so yesterday I had a tbsp of peanut butter in the afternoon. Not good when you're on Ph 1 of the reboot! UGH. I brought pickles in today, so I'll make myself eat those instead and just suck it up.

Also, there's a blood drive on Friday that I was asked to donate for. I'm nervous...last time I donated on P1, I passed out. So maybe I do P2 that day, have my bar for lunch right before I go in, and then bring a RTD shake for right afterward. Yikes!

Determinedat47
02-15-2012, 12:35 PM
Hi Maintainers,

I'm certainly not here yet, but hope to be some day. I just posted this in the daily chat but thought you might not see it there and clueless on how to link to another area.

I'm a huge fan of Dr. Hyman and thought you might enjoy a blog article of his on wheat and why it makes us fat. I know I'm one of those especially wheat and sugar sensitive people, so I'll be avoiding both during maintenance.

He has even created a new term linking the obesity and diabetic epidemic we are seeing - diabesity.

http://drhyman.com/three-hidden-ways-wheat-makes-you-fat-8425/?utm_source=Publicaster&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=drhyman%20newsletter%20issue%20#56&utm_content=Get+the+story

Have a great day!

Thank you for posting this. It makes me think... how can I ever get my husband and children to quit eating bread? We all love bread, myself included. Wow- something to work towards for sure. Thanks again.

jennydoodle
02-15-2012, 01:53 PM
Great article. It is pretty much "Wheat Belly" in an abreviated version.

Louisiana chick
02-15-2012, 04:45 PM
I will be starting Phase 3 tomorrow. My coach said I might see 2 to 5 pound gain, but I am okay with that. I thought phasing out would be very exciting, but it is turning out to be a little anxiety-causing. Life on phases 1 and 2 was so easy once I got into a routine, which was months ago. Now, something new. My palate has changed to the point that I can detect hidden sugar in food, regardless of the amount. I feel like I am one of those truffle-smelling hogs who can sniff out truffles under several feet of dirt.

So, any advice or resources you would like to share or point me to would be great.

Thanks. Don.

I feel your anxiety. About 4 weeks ago, I went on to Phase 3 and stayed on it for 2 weeks. I had tons of questions for my coach because I didn't want to screw anything up. I ended up losing on Phase 3. This is my second week of phase 4 and last week I lost 2 pounds. Not sure how my weight will do tomorrow once I go weigh in. Phase 3 breakfast is something that i look forward to even though I have never been a breakfast person. you will be fine because you are in the right place by checking these boards.

TWoww
02-15-2012, 07:59 PM
Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing:) I am one that could not do a phase off with the added starchy carbs. I'm thinking that I am just not a gluten tolerant type. I pretty much eat Atkins style now with lots of low carb veggies, eggs, meat, feta cheese, protein shakes and an avacodo daily! I also run about 30 miles a week and throw in a cheat day now and then. The IP program really is the best program out there for real weight loss and I'm so glad that I found it when I did! Maintaining has been so easy because I get my sweet fix with my pure protein or Atkins shakes and I never feel hungry or deprived! Great job to all my fellow maintainers!!

Maile
02-16-2012, 07:18 AM
Pixl: Good luck on going wheat free. The Wheat belly has some good looking recipes in the back. Does this mean you are going to have to give up your Nashua favorites or can you find some new ones?
I am the same way about my DIL..whenever she comes I have to really clean the house! Hope the Dr helps your cold.

Sherylynn: Thanks for an excellent article. It was very thorough.

Twoww I am glad maintenance is going so well for you! I stay away from carbs as much as possible also. Congratulations!

Progress with my husband! So I informed my husband that my Dr. just told me that I looked great and that my weight was perfect. My husband responded that I did not look too thin and looked fine. Now this is progress from a few months ago. Is he finally getting used to the new me?
My other good news is that my belly bulge is caused from a small pregnancy hernia and is not fat!

Maile
02-16-2012, 07:23 AM
[QUOTE=Maile;4212355]

Thanks for your ideas with Asian food for lunch and dinner. We plan on stopping at Costco... what are some items you found there that helped with "thoughtful maintenance" while vacationing in paradise?
I bought Costco vegetables and made lots of salads. I took WF dressing and used it. I bought their cooked shrimp and used it for salads. I found you could eat some teriyaki and asian stir fries with out gaining if you stayed away from the rice. Grilled Mahi mahi is excellent. Just keep away from the MaiTais as they are loaded with sugar. Have a wonderful trip.

Pxlkitty4
02-16-2012, 10:27 AM
hi everyone. i didn't have anything with wheat all yesterday and already i feel better. pants feel better, down another pound today (2 lbs in 3 days)... woohoo!!! i'm sure the sudafed high is helping too.

got a new fancy nasal spray. nothing great in terms of meds, but she said that i didn't have an infection, just lots of "inflammation" and some fluid in my head that i needed to get the congestion under control in order to fix. we'll see...

Gika
02-16-2012, 12:51 PM
. I am down the pound and seeing it.

Happy for you!


Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing:) I am one that could not do a phase off with the added starchy carbs. I'm thinking that I am just not a gluten tolerant type. I pretty much eat Atkins style now with lots of low carb veggies, eggs, meat, feta cheese, protein shakes and an avacodo daily! I also run about 30 miles a week and throw in a cheat day now and then. The IP program really is the best program out there for real weight loss and I'm so glad that I found it when I did! Maintaining has been so easy because I get my sweet fix with my pure protein or Atkins shakes and I never feel hungry or deprived! Great job to all my fellow maintainers!!

Thanks for sharing this. It's always nice to hear others' experiences


hi everyone. i didn't have anything with wheat all yesterday and already i feel better. pants feel better, down another pound today (2 lbs in 3 days)... woohoo!!! i'm sure the sudafed high is helping too.

got a new fancy nasal spray. nothing great in terms of meds, but she said that i didn't have an infection, just lots of "inflammation" and some fluid in my head that i needed to get the congestion under control in order to fix. we'll see...

wow 2 lbs in 3 days is great. I really must read the Wheat Belly book. Keep up posted, I will be very interested in how your wheat-free journey goes, and I hope your cold gets better soon. Good think it's not an infection, antibiotics are not fun.

Gika
02-16-2012, 12:55 PM
Progress with my husband! So I informed my husband that my Dr. just told me that I looked great and that my weight was perfect. My husband responded that I did not look too thin and looked fine. Now this is progress from a few months ago. Is he finally getting used to the new me?
My other good news is that my belly bulge is caused from a small pregnancy hernia and is not fat!

I'm guessing your husband used to tell you you were looking too thin?so I'm glad he thinks you look great now. Yeah, it sounds like he's gotten used to the new you.
So is that hernia dangerous? will you need to do something about it? I'm glad you're happy that is not fat though :)

Gika
02-16-2012, 01:03 PM
Well another good day. This weekend though I have a baby shower to attend. I am NOT looking forward to it because A) There will be lots of food to refuse, and people to tell me I must be crazy i don't need to lose anymore weight bla bla bla (that was the general sentiment at my last social gathering). B) I've never been to a baby shower, so I don't know what to expect. I don't have much to contribute since I've never been pregnant so, although I may be overthinking it.. I can't shake the feeling that I will be bored to death and C) Even though it pains me to admit it, it overwhelms me to be surrounded by lots of kids. I love kids and I have worked with kids.. but it's different for me in social situations..

Well in terms of food I just have to carefully think what will I say to refuse eating things that I shouldn't. I think I'm just going to go with a very blunt approach.

JoLoMN
02-16-2012, 01:26 PM
Hi! I haven't been on in a few weeks as I was preparing for and traveling in Hawaii. We are heading home today so I have nine hours of flights and a three hour car ride to look forward to. We have the day to spend on The Big Island, so I hope we get some hiking in.

I see I have some reading to do and hope to catch up on all the great info you've shared regarding wheat belly, carb cycling, eating for your blood type, etc. this is a continuous learning process.

While away, my coach encouraged me to let go of it all and simply enjoy myself. She and her hubby had just returned from Mexico and had drank beers on the beach all week, then when feeling bloated, had returned onto p1 eating, and returned home only a couple of pounds up. She reminded me I have the tools and I will use them when I return home.

Mid-vacation I was feeling bloated and had a p3 day and a major hiking day. Nothing like an hour long steep hike down to the sea followed by two hours of a stair stepping like hike to make you feel better! In addition to two glasses of wine each day and a few days of cheese and crackers, I'm feeling bloated again and missing the comfort of my new regular food. I did bring a rtd shake and protein bar for each day of the trip, and did have lots of veggies and lean proteins. I did not follow the rules about not combing, obviously, and ate fruit more than I typically would in maintenance. We stayed in a condo, so I had a modified p3 breakfast, nonfat plain Greek yogurt fresh fruit, two slices of WW toast (but way more carbs than I would have at home) and regular PBS when I would typically have PB2 at home.

I have been wearing size six or eight, and plan to keep both sizes in my closet for TOM, and I tried on my size six jeans yesterday and they are quite snug. Feeling uncomfortable in them or the car ride home should act as a great reminder to stick to p1 for a few days when I get home!

I asked my coach to WI weekly for at least one month to ensure I get back on track.

Mentally, I haven't come to terms with if this was the right thing to do or the easiest at the time. I know I have been OP and quite restrictive with this plan and have lost 90 lbs. I certainly have no intention of this being the downward spiral I have so often feared.

Good luck to others planning trips. I hope the plans you take with you will help you to be successful. Maintenance is quite a different journey, and I'm so happy for the support I find in this thread. You ladies rock!

Pauley
02-16-2012, 02:03 PM
Well Pxl - I think I'm coming down with it too. NOthing like a pre-schooler in day care to bring home every nasty virus out there! And this on the eve of my first weekend away with my husband since she's been born. Bummer.

Gika - good luck with the baby shower. You never know what to expect. Sometimes they're really fun and sometimes they get into a "can you top this" tales from the delivery room which is horrible. Guaranteed there will be food you want no part of. That's a shame they aren't supportive of your food choices. My friends pretty much are now.

Welcome back Jolo. Sounds like you enjoyed Hawaii! How could you not? It is paradise. If I could find a job, we'd be living there.

gettinmygrooveback
02-16-2012, 02:18 PM
Hello all....

Found this article on the internet today and thought it interesting enough to pass along. Some of the info I knew while some I found to be quite enlightening.

http://todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/15/10419637-block-sugar-from-your-body-in-7-easy-ways

cajunladybug22
02-16-2012, 03:30 PM
Hi everyone! Hope you're all having a good day!

Gika...there might not be many kids there...sometimes it's mommy's time away from the kids.

Pixl...glad you're feeling better and cutting the wheat is making you feel better!

Endless Dieter
02-17-2012, 06:41 AM
Hi Everyone,

First post in Maintainers and would like some input just started phrase three and breakfast is really confusing for me. So is the goal to have 30 carbs at breakfast or 50 ?
Also my coach told me Phrase four goes as follows for daily allowance of carbs:
60-150 carbs you will slowly lose or maintain weight.
under 200 carbs you will maintain weight.
over 250 carbs you will actively increase your weight.

Has anyone else's coach shared this carb theory with them? Thanks for all the help that anyone can share on this theory with me.:)

bigpassport
02-17-2012, 08:07 AM
Hi Everyone,

First post in Maintainers and would like some input just started phrase three and breakfast is really confusing for me. So is the goal to have 30 carbs at breakfast or 50 ?
Also my coach told me Phrase four goes as follows for daily allowance of carbs:
60-150 carbs you will slowly lose or maintain weight.
under 200 carbs you will maintain weight.
over 250 carbs you will actively increase your weight.

Has anyone else's coach shared this carb theory with them? Thanks for all the help that anyone can share on this theory with me.:)

Congrats and welcome. The goal for P3 breakfast is no more than 30 g carbs FROM GRAINS and no more than 20 g carbs FROM FRUIT. So you could have 50 g of carbs between your grains and fruits. Remember that's a maximum number. On the carb advice from your coach, no, my coach didn't share that with me. In fact, my coach has repeatedly been unable to answer questions regarding specific numbers of grams of fats, carbs, etc (I believe she has asked the company but has not been given bright line rules). For myself, I found that on a regular diet of 100 g of carbs a day, I continue to lose weight but that gives me a cushion for small treats during the week and my free day on the weekend so the net effect is that my weight is maintained. As we've been discussing a little bit here in Maintainers, each person has a different carb tolerance. Those guidelines might be helpful for you to find yours.

jennydoodle
02-17-2012, 11:23 AM
B) I've never been to a baby shower, so I don't know what to expect. I don't have much to contribute since I've never been pregnant so, although I may be overthinking it.. I can't shake the feeling that I will be bored to death

DING DING DING!!! If you have ever been to a bridal shower, it is the same thing but with baby presents instead of household items. Same boring games, same boring time sitting and watching the guest of honor open gift after gift. Sorry gals, but I hate showers. :)

Endless Dieter
02-17-2012, 11:35 AM
Congrats and welcome. The goal for P3 breakfast is no more than 30 g carbs FROM GRAINS and no more than 20 g carbs FROM FRUIT. So you could have 50 g of carbs between your grains and fruits. Remember that's a maximum number. On the carb advice from your coach, no, my coach didn't share that with me. In fact, my coach has repeatedly been unable to answer questions regarding specific numbers of grams of fats, carbs, etc (I believe she has asked the company but has not been given bright line rules). For myself, I found that on a regular diet of 100 g of carbs a day, I continue to lose weight but that gives me a cushion for small treats during the week and my free day on the weekend so the net effect is that my weight is maintained. As we've been discussing a little bit here in Maintainers, each person has a different carb tolerance. Those guidelines might be helpful for you to find yours.


Thanks for reply.... This is a whole new world for me joining "Maintainers" and hopefully I will be as successful as many who post....

Pxlkitty4
02-17-2012, 12:09 PM
Hi all. On train to new York. Finally, a vacation day! I am down a total of four pounds in four days off wheat. I'll keep this up as long as I can. I even had tacos last night and crisped up corn tortillas in the oven. Haden some low fat chips and salsa. I didn't have cheese.

I'm back to 150, which is the top end of my goal range. Yay! Let's see what this weekend brings.

Hi Everyone,

First post in Maintainers and would like some input just started phrase three and breakfast is really confusing for me. So is the goal to have 30 carbs at breakfast or 50 ?
Also my coach told me Phrase four goes as follows for daily allowance of carbs:
60-150 carbs you will slowly lose or maintain weight.
under 200 carbs you will maintain weight.
over 250 carbs you will actively increase your weight.

Has anyone else's coach shared this carb theory with them? Thanks for all the help that anyone can share on this theory with me.:)

Nope. There are no guidelines like this that I know of. Just separate carbs and fat. There are some recommended serving sizes of carbs for the "fat poor" meal.

Gika
02-17-2012, 01:40 PM
Thanks for the advise and info girls! Jennydoodle you totally made me laugh.. a nervous and tragic kind of laugh haha. I haven't been to a bridal shower either but the way you describe it.. confirms my fears of boredom ha.

I've decided I'm bringing my zucchini chips to munch on.

JoLo - Glad you enjoyed your vacation! I agree that that was the way to go. Fortunately we have IP now to do damage control.

Pxlkitty4- I'm sure that loss will put you in an even better mood to enjoy your trip! Have fun!

Gika
02-17-2012, 03:52 PM
Hello all....

Found this article on the internet today and thought it interesting enough to pass along. Some of the info I knew while some I found to be quite enlightening.

http://todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/15/10419637-block-sugar-from-your-body-in-7-easy-ways

Thanks for that article! Definitively good info to keep in mind during maintenance!

Paint Lady
02-17-2012, 06:15 PM
Thanks for reply.... This is a whole new world for me joining "Maintainers" and hopefully I will be as successful as many who post....

Also, remember that 50 is the maximum number of carbs total for breakfast. So, If you have yogurt with 9 carbs, you have to shave that away from either your fruit or your grain total. I was originally confused by that, because all I had was a grain total and a fruit total. I was wondering where dairy fit in.
My favorite breakfast is:
8 oz. non-fat greek yogurt, 9 carbs
Nature's own whole wheat multigrain sandwich rounds, 19 carbs
1 Tbs Jif natural peanut butter, 3 carbs
1/2 banana, 12 carbs
Total 43 carbs for breakfast
I also add some 1/2 and 1/2 to my coffee and some sugar free mocha stuff which together equals about 1 carb.

I love this so much that I very rarely eat anything else for breakfast. I do not suggest eating something like bacon for your first few breakfasts. I did on my first phase 3 day and it was a fat shock to my system. I was queasy all day.

MAINTAINisGoal
02-17-2012, 08:48 PM
Congrats and welcome. The goal for P3 breakfast is no more than 30 g carbs FROM GRAINS and no more than 20 g carbs FROM FRUIT. So you could have 50 g of carbs between your grains and fruits. Remember that's a maximum number. On the carb advice from your coach, no, my coach didn't share that with me. In fact, my coach has repeatedly been unable to answer questions regarding specific numbers of grams of fats, carbs, etc (I believe she has asked the company but has not been given bright line rules). For myself, I found that on a regular diet of 100 g of carbs a day, I continue to lose weight but that gives me a cushion for small treats during the week and my free day on the weekend so the net effect is that my weight is maintained. As we've been discussing a little bit here in Maintainers, each person has a different carb tolerance. Those guidelines might be helpful for you to find yours.

Regarding reg. diet of 100g of carbs a day... what do you have for "small treats during week" and what about "free day"?

Maile
02-18-2012, 08:57 AM
Hi Gika. Good luck at the baby shower. I agree with you, the blunt approach works the best! Hopefully everyone will be focused on the baby and the gifts and not on what you are eating or not eating!

Yes, 2 months ago my husband told me that I looked too thin for my large frame. After telling him that my BMI wss normal and that my dr approved, we dropped the subject. Mainly I was hoping that time would cure him..and that he would get used to seeing me this way. While his response was not estatic, at least now he says I am not too thin and look fine. This is progress.
I have had the hernia..small one for 20 years..It is not a problem and I don't need surgery. I was just concerned that it was belly fat..and that I did not want to lose anymore weight.

Maile
02-18-2012, 09:13 AM
Getting my groove back:I liked that article. The only thing is that he suggests eating crispy vegetables..but then says roasted cauliflower is fine. I love roasted vegetables so I hope they are Ok.

Jolo: Your hiking trip to Hi sounded wonderful. You have done so well losing 90 pounds. Thank heavens for Phase 1 and tools for post vacations!

Pauley: hope you feel better. I would move to Hi tomorrow if I could!

Endless: My coach never gave me a daily count of carbs.

Maintain goal: I have the 100 calorie packet of cocoa almonds for a treat.
My free days change depending on what I want. I had a margarita on one.

Paintlady: I love yogurt/fruit/pb/bread for breakfast also. I never seem to get tired of it.

Pixl: Good news on you losing! Maybe the no wheat is helping!

I am off to find an Asian market and search out baby eggplant and kim chi !

bigpassport
02-18-2012, 09:47 AM
Regarding reg. diet of 100g of carbs a day... what do you have for "small treats during week" and what about "free day"?

By small treats, I mean anything that will take me over my daily 1400 calories or 100g of carbs. Maybe an extra serving of something if I'm hungry or a larger snack. If I stay disciplined for the balance of the week, it could even be a sugary treat. My free days are free, anything I want to eat. Although I feel better if I eat reasonable quantities and don't stuff myself. The point is, I found, if I keep my daily goal for calories and carbs at a weight loss level then when little cheats and the free day are added in, my diet for the week is at maintenance level.

Maile
02-19-2012, 09:53 AM
Lee. You have a sensible eating plan. I like your approach.

Here is my quote for the day.."You have come too far to be controlled by a cookie." That puts things in perspective doesn't it? Instead of cookie..mine might be a pizza!

Here are links to You Tube conversations with Gary Taub who wrote "Why people get fat."


www.youtube.com/watch?v=
XR3FVvEJ-Nk&feature=related

www.youtube.com/watch?v=
myyOD1W1DPg&feature=relmfu

www.youtube.com/watch?v=
4HxLeGvFVsM&feature=relmfu

Here is another link to another talk:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=
bTUspjZG-wc&feature=related


I went out to PF Chang's yesterday. I love their sea bass marinated in oolong tea. So on the way back I am neurotically searching on my phone for the carb count of that dish and the Hot and Sour Soup. I still say normal people would not do that..but my neurotic normalcy may just be Ok. I did discover that Hot and Sour soup has a lot of cornstarch and cornstarch is absolutely loaded with carbs!

droidgigi
02-19-2012, 11:43 AM
I've been having my phase 1 days using IP packets....woke up this AM and I don't have any? What's a Phase I IP friendly breakfast?lunch?? just hard boiled eggs??

I don't know...think I might be panicking...

Calypso
02-19-2012, 12:57 PM
GOOD AM,
It's time for me to stop lurking in the shadows and come out of the closet! I am now in the first week of phase 3 and scared to death about phase 4. I went to a large birthday party last PM and it was the first time I have seen most of the people there since my weight loss journey began. People were shocked and said either "who are you and what have you done with my friend" or "you look like your daughter" I might add I don't have any children! It was very positive and made me feel this is one of the best decisions I ever made, and once I set my mind to it, not that difficult.

But..... now I am afraid I will fail in phase 4. I have tried several breakfasts in phase 3 and today's left me hungry in 3 hrs, YIKES :?: It was 2 poached eggs, a whole grain muffin, blueberries and a cappuccino. If this is what it is going to be like I will never make it. Does anybody have experience with the "hunger thing"?

Slow Weave
02-19-2012, 01:35 PM
Like Calypso, I too have this fear of failure in phase 4. I don't want to go back to being heavy nor do I want to experience the "hunger thing". I had hoped by now my stomach would have shrunk enough that the hunger wouldn't be there, and maybe it isn't, maybe it is more in my head. None the less, I am feeling hungry. Help!

droidgigi
02-19-2012, 02:12 PM
GOOD AM,
It's time for me to stop lurking in the shadows and come out of the closet! I am now in the first week of phase 3 and scared to death about phase 4. I went to a large birthday party last PM and it was the first time I have seen most of the people there since my weight loss journey began. People were shocked and said either "who are you and what have you done with my friend" or "you look like your daughter" I might add I don't have any children! It was very positive and made me feel this is one of the best decisions I ever made, and once I set my mind to it, not that difficult.

But..... now I am afraid I will fail in phase 4. I have tried several breakfasts in phase 3 and today's left me hungry in 3 hrs, YIKES :?: It was 2 poached eggs, a whole grain muffin, blueberries and a cappuccino. If this is what it is going to be like I will never make it. Does anybody have experience with the "hunger thing"?

I hate to see questions go unanswered especially mine...so if I have something I think will help I try to reply:
Maybe you should look into other options for your breakfasts...I don't find that I'm hungry until it's time to eat again. I have oatmeal and or grits some mornings these are very filling...I also have in my rotation 100% WW sandwich thins and have 1/3 fat cream cheese with these I have vegetarian sausage or bacon ALSO make sure you are drinking enough water. I usually have an apple OR make a smoothie with frozen mixed berries.

If I haven't failed in phase 4...I don't think anyone will. I vary between my goal weight and a pound under and have been in phase 4/maintenance since 1/7.

Calypso
02-19-2012, 06:56 PM
Droidgigi,
I have had better success with other breakfasts such as oatmeal but was hoping that it was going to no longer be a problem. The bought of always having to "be present" as I decide what to eat in the AM is kind of a drag. But I guess in the grand scheme of things, it's small potatoes! Thanks for answering this.

patns
02-19-2012, 07:10 PM
Calypso, WTG!!!! You must look fantastic!
Pat

Pxlkitty4
02-20-2012, 08:38 AM
Hi everyone. So... I stayed off wheat as much as possible and ate basically what I wanted for the past three days in New York. This included French fries, ice cream, coffee drinks, chips and guacamole, milkshakes, cheesy omelets, home style potatoes, Jacques Torres chocolates.... Granted, we walked a lot. Granted, I still order salads a lot...

Ready? I'm up 1.5lbs. That's it!

Back to being good today. I'm hoping that my normal eating habits plus staying off wheat help me drop back way into my weight range. I'm going to find some new granola today as well as some wheat-free gluten-free bread to try for breakfast tomorrow.

My neighbors asked for bagels from new York. How ironic that I will deliver them this morning.

Droidgigi,
I have had better success with other breakfasts such as oatmeal but was hoping that it was going to no longer be a problem. The bought of always having to "be present" as I decide what to eat in the AM is kind of a drag. But I guess in the grand scheme of things, it's small potatoes! Thanks for answering this.

Read about "slow carbs". They are what you need in the morning to not feel hungry. A whole grain muffin is just a fancy "healthy" slice of cake. Too much sugar and probably way more carbs than you need. Try oatmeal, sprouted wheat toast,mor yogurt with granola.

Pauley
02-20-2012, 11:10 AM
GOOD AM,
It's time for me to stop lurking in the shadows and come out of the closet! I am now in the first week of phase 3 and scared to death about phase 4. I went to a large birthday party last PM and it was the first time I have seen most of the people there since my weight loss journey began. People were shocked and said either "who are you and what have you done with my friend" or "you look like your daughter" I might add I don't have any children! It was very positive and made me feel this is one of the best decisions I ever made, and once I set my mind to it, not that difficult.

But..... now I am afraid I will fail in phase 4. I have tried several breakfasts in phase 3 and today's left me hungry in 3 hrs, YIKES :?: It was 2 poached eggs, a whole grain muffin, blueberries and a cappuccino. If this is what it is going to be like I will never make it. Does anybody have experience with the "hunger thing"?

I think we were all afraid of failure when we entered phase 4, but it's not too bad once you figure out what works for you. Morning is my worst time for hunger too! I try to eat breakfast a little late and have lunch a little early to help with that. Sometimes a mid-morning snack of EAS carb control shake or a light string cheese gets me through. They key for me has been tracking tracking tracking. You can't gain the weight back if you keep your calories on track with what you're burning every day.

Congrats on your awesome weight loss and welcome to maintenance!

Pauley
02-20-2012, 11:14 AM
Pxl - your weekend sounds like mine! We were in Seattle for the weekend at a swanky hotel and I enjoyed numerous fancy meals out, including a few rich desserts! It was heaven. I did fall into a diabetic coma of sorts on the way home yesterday. I could hardly keep my eyes open. Weird after relaxing all weekend and getting plenty of sleep. It had to be the crash after all that sugar! I was afraid to weight this morning. I'll give it a couple days of phase 1 and maybe weight on Wed or Thurs.

Maile - I love the "you've come too far to be controlled by a cookie" quote. I'm going to say that to myself over the next few days as I try to stave off the sugar cravings!

sunnymae
02-20-2012, 11:46 AM
I've been having my phase 1 days using IP packets....woke up this AM and I don't have any? What's a Phase I IP friendly breakfast?lunch?? just hard boiled eggs??

I don't know...think I might be panicking...

Don't freak!!!! Get some egg whites, (southwest flavored ones are delicious) or use last night leftover veggies, salmon, sliced steak...whatever you had) whip it all up. You can also add a teaspoon or 2 of grated parmesan. Very flavorful and only 20 calories per TABLESPOON! 0 carbs. I use it throughout the day on my omelets and salads or just about anything.

jennydoodle
02-20-2012, 11:56 AM
Calypso & Droid- we are all here because NONE of us want to fail on P4. If you have the time, I would suggest going back and reading the earlier volumes of the Maintainers Threads. P4 or Maintenance is basically a guessing game. We ALL have/had to figure out what and how much we could eat while staying at or near our goal weight. Most of us have a "comfort window" that we like to stay in. It allows for daily fluctuation, but as soon as we hit our ceiling number, we do a day or 2 at P1.

For me, my window is 132-134. If I ever see 135, I am right back on P1 until I am at least at 133. Make sense? It is all about finding what works FOR YOU. Some of us can tolerate more carbs than others and still maintain, while some of us live relatively low carb. It just comes down to figuring out what you can eat and still maintain. For me, I spend most of my time eating P3. This allows me to have small indulgences through out the week or on the weekend without ever having a full blown cheat day and it also allows me to avoid doing P1 days (which I absolutely hate doing now). This keeps me totally in control and I don't ever feel deprived. I feel like I eat like a "normal" person. 90% eating the way I should and 10% fun- spread through out the entire week. I don't like the out of control feeling I get on "free days". I don't like the mind set of cramming everything under the sun into one day. First- I don't like that feeling of "out of control-ness" and 2nd- I hate the way I feel the next day.

On that note, for breakfast- ditch the muffin. It is nothing but empty calories and sugar. Unless you made it yourself and know exactly what you put in it, it is glorified cake (like Pxl said). My typical breakfast is:

2 eggs + 1 egg white
Apple + 1 T. Peanut butter
Fage Greek Yogurt + 3/4 cup granola (mixed in)

This keeps me full and satisfied until lunch.

TracyAWC
02-20-2012, 11:57 AM
Hi all

I haven't read through this thread yet but I just got all the way through one of the "Life After" threads which was very helpful. I'm in P3 as of last Sat (three days ago) and loving it. I just made a yummy breakfast pizza I thought I'd share here in case anyone is interested...total calories 370/carbs 15/fiber 6/protein 52/fat 14.

1 whole joseph's flax/oat bran/whole wheat lavash
1 cup egg whites
garlic
1 oz reduced fat cheddar shredded
3 T hormel real bacon bits (50% less fat)

I mixed about a clove of minced garlic in with the the egg whites and then cooked over low/med heat til set (sprayed nonstick pan with spray EVOO). Placed that on top of lavash and sprinkled cheese and bacon bits on top and put under broiler until it was all melty and delicious. With a cup of raspberries on the side it was really yummy and good for a weekend brunch kind of thing.

Now I'll go back and read this thread!

Maile
02-20-2012, 12:19 PM
Tracy..Thanks for the recipe. It sounds good.

droidgigi: I have had 2 poached eggs instead of an IP packet..no problem.

Calypso and Slow Weave: welcome to maintenance. Phase 4 is scary but you soon get used to it. Calypso you might try adding nuts or PB in the morning so you will not feel so hungry. I still get hungry after 4 months of maintenance!

Pauley..that quote made me laugh..sounds like you had a good time in Seattle. I am heading up there in March.

Pixl: sounds like you handled your trip well.


No work today so I am trying new recipes..Fun!

MAINTAINisGoal
02-20-2012, 12:33 PM
Calypso & Droid- we are all here because NONE of us want to fail on P4. If you have the time, I would suggest going back and reading the earlier volumes of the Maintainers Threads. P4 or Maintenance is basically a guessing game. We ALL have/had to figure out what and how much we could eat while staying at or near our goal weight. Most of us have a "comfort window" that we like to stay in. It allows for daily fluctuation, but as soon as we hit our ceiling number, we do a day or 2 at P1.

For me, my window is 132-134. If I ever see 135, I am right back on P1 until I am at least at 133. Make sense? It is all about finding what works FOR YOU. Some of us can tolerate more carbs than others and still maintain, while some of us live relatively low carb. It just comes down to figuring out what you can eat and still maintain. For me, I spend most of my time eating P3. This allows me to have small indulgences through out the week or on the weekend without ever having a full blown cheat day and it also allows me to avoid doing P1 days (which I absolutely hate doing now). This keeps me totally in control and I don't ever feel deprived. I feel like I eat like a "normal" person. 90% eating the way I should and 10% fun- spread through out the entire week. I don't like the out of control feeling I get on "free days". I don't like the mind set of cramming everything under the sun into one day. First- I don't like that feeling of "out of control-ness" and 2nd- I hate the way I feel the next day.

On that note, for breakfast- ditch the muffin. It is nothing but empty calories and sugar. Unless you made it yourself and know exactly what you put in it, it is glorified cake (like Pxl said). My typical breakfast is:

2 eggs + 1 egg white
Apple + 1 T. Peanut butter
Fage Greek Yogurt + 3/4 cup granola (mixed in)

This keeps me full and satisfied until lunch.

What are some examples of your "small indulgences"? Also, do you make your own granola (if so, will you share recipe?) or have you found a product on the shelf that is satisfactory?

Pxlkitty4
02-20-2012, 12:46 PM
What are some examples of your "small indulgences"? Also, do you make your own granola (if so, will you share recipe?) or have you found a product on the shelf that is satisfactory?

You can also see food diaries of people on fatsecret is you sign up there and "friend" people. My username is the same. I even created some phase 3 breakfasts that I shared... That will help you get on the kinds of food that we are all eating.

Full disclosure, though. I have been terrible about my tracking over the past few months... Others are better, I'm sure.

cajunladybug22
02-20-2012, 12:58 PM
Hi all

I haven't read through this thread yet but I just got all the way through one of the "Life After" threads which was very helpful. I'm in P3 as of last Sat (three days ago) and loving it. I just made a yummy breakfast pizza I thought I'd share here in case anyone is interested...total calories 370/carbs 15/fiber 6/protein 52/fat 14.

1 whole joseph's flax/oat bran/whole wheat lavash
1 cup egg whites
garlic
1 oz reduced fat cheddar shredded
3 T hormel real bacon bits (50% less fat)

I mixed about a clove of minced garlic in with the the egg whites and then cooked over low/med heat til set (sprayed nonstick pan with spray EVOO). Placed that on top of lavash and sprinkled cheese and bacon bits on top and put under broiler until it was all melty and delicious. With a cup of raspberries on the side it was really yummy and good for a weekend brunch kind of thing.

Now I'll go back and read this thread!

Welcome, and thanks so much for the recipe....that sounds delicious! Although, I don't know if I'll be able to find the lavash here.

Pixl...thanks for the recommendation on the flavor drops! I got the Cinnamon Danish swirl and the Peanut Butter in my last Nashua order, and they're both wonderful. Can't wait to try them in something other than coffee soon!

As for my reboot, I'm down 6.2lbs in 12 days. Not too shabby! I'll do P1 until Wednesday, then move to phase 2 for a couple of weeks. I miss my P3 breakfasts!

Oh, and Happy Lundi Gras, everyone (that's French for "Fat Monday" or the day before Mardi Gras)!

Pxlkitty4
02-20-2012, 01:49 PM
Pixl...thanks for the recommendation on the flavor drops! I got the Cinnamon Danish swirl and the Peanut Butter in my last Nashua order, and they're both wonderful. Can't wait to try them in something other than coffee soon!

As for my reboot, I'm down 6.2lbs in 12 days. Not too shabby! I'll do P1 until Wednesday, then move to phase 2 for a couple of weeks. I miss my P3 breakfasts!


congrats on your great loss! I really like the flavor drops. Thanks for reminding me to pull them out again. After several days eating like a madwoman, I really have to reign myself in.

jennydoodle
02-20-2012, 02:44 PM
What are some examples of your "small indulgences"? Also, do you make your own granola (if so, will you share recipe?) or have you found a product on the shelf that is satisfactory?

My small indulgences are typically just bites here and there of things I would not normally eat. Maybe a few french fries off of hubby's plate, a piece of dark chocolate if I am craving something sweet, some chips and salsa- things like that. Or if I am going out with some girl friends and we get bunch of appetizers to share. Nothing crazy. Even before IP, I was a very healthy eater, so I don't really like junk food in general. Sometimes a small indulgence simply means eating a few extra carbs than allotted. I don't eat wheat and I really limit sugar, so that takes out a ton options for cheats ;)

I just try to eat healthy majority of the time, and if I have a craving for something, I will go for it. If I want a scoop of ice cream, and it happens to be a Tuesday evening, I will have it. I am not a big fan of "waiting until Saturday" (or whatever day you have your free day) and then going hog wild and eating the whole container of ice cream, plus pizza for dinner and a starbucks frappachino for an afternoon pick me up. I do much better to just eat small indulgences when the mood strikes. I have much better damage control this way. Plus, if it is something that is planned (girls night out) I will cut back on carbs the rest of the day to help compensate. This is just what works for me.

Unfortunately I do not make my own granola. I have found one that I like from Whole Foods. The brand is Natures Path, and they are wheat free and gluten free. There are a bunch of flavors, but I like the Pomegran Plus.

Pxlkitty4
02-20-2012, 03:37 PM
Unfortunately I do not make my own granola. I have found one that I like from Whole Foods. The brand is Natures Path, and they are wheat free and gluten free. There are a bunch of flavors, but I like the Pomegran Plus.

I love their hemp plus granola and I buy it at TJs. Have you tried their new premium granola?? They have flavors like Dark Chocolate & Red Berries, Aloha Blend, and some others. I haven't tried them yet.. Will probably check out Whole Foods to see if they have them.

Ishbel
02-20-2012, 03:49 PM
You can also see food diaries of people on fatsecret is you sign up there and "friend" people. My username is the same. I even created some phase 3 breakfasts that I shared... That will help you get on the kinds of food that we are all eating.

Full disclosure, though. I have been terrible about my tracking over the past few months... Others are better, I'm sure.

Hey Pxlkitty, finally added you (we talked about it a while back). I played around with fatsecret but not enough. I'm on a mini phase off starting this Thursday for a trip to Mexico. So I thought I'd better get it figured out soon.

Anyone else doing fat secret thats willing to be my buddy? I'm probably not going to keep it completely updated until I'm done done phase 1 but I'm feeling a little intimidated by my mini phase off so I thought I'd jump on there!

...wow I feel odd posting in this thread :)

bigpassport
02-20-2012, 05:06 PM
As for my reboot, I'm down 6.2lbs in 12 days. Not too shabby! I'll do P1 until Wednesday, then move to phase 2 for a couple of weeks. I miss my P3 breakfasts!

Great job! Isn't it a relief to get a few pounds off?

I'm reporting in on my reboot too. It's taken me 3.5 weeks to lose 6 lbs (on my home scale...which is what really counts for me) but I am now at my previous all time low of 134.6!! Yay!! So now the question I will face Friday morning is whether to do P1 to get my weight a little lower with the goal of 135 as my maintenance weight or whether to start P2 and hope a few more pounds drop off before P4.

Welcome to the new P3 and P4 people. If it makes you feel any better, I'm nervous about gaining and what to eat on P3 and P4 too even though I've BTDT. Unlike most, however, I am not excited about P3 breakfasts. I'm not a breakfast lover so the thought of forcing myself to eat all that food seems like such a waste of carbs and calories. I think I'm going to try recipes for healthy breakfast muffins, maybe even trying almond flour. Jennydoodle is right when She says maintenance is a guessing game. We all have to find what works for us as individuals based on trial and error. I also tracked like crazy when I first went on maintenance. It is indeed much easier to let yourself go if you're not tracking daily. I'm on mfp if anyone wants to send me a pm for my screenname.

Pxl Congrats on the NY eating experiment. Nice to hear that enjoying yourself and maintaining aren't mutually exclusive.

Maile Let us know if any recipes are worth sharing!

Pauley good luck braving the scale!

Cap You must be having a great time in Hawaii! We miss you!

Momto2cs
02-20-2012, 05:54 PM
135 at 5'8" sounds great. I would like to get there, but at 148 (on to 145) I am already struggling to eek off the pounds! I am very muscular, and can easily wear a small or a 6. What size are you wearing? I am 40 and just can't imagine I could be a 4....

Pauley
02-20-2012, 06:35 PM
1 whole joseph's flax/oat bran/whole wheat lavash

What is this and where does one find it?

gettinmygrooveback
02-21-2012, 09:18 AM
Unfortunately I do not make my own granola. I have found one that I like from Whole Foods. The brand is Natures Path, and they are wheat free and gluten free. There are a bunch of flavors, but I like the Pomegran Plus.

I love their hemp plus granola and I buy it at TJs. Have you tried their new premium granola?? They have flavors like Dark Chocolate & Red Berries, Aloha Blend, and some others. I haven't tried them yet.. Will probably check out Whole Foods to see if they have them.

I just wanted to add a little tidbit. First, thanks for the heads up on that brand. I found their pumpkin seed granola at Sam's way back when. Loved it with my plain or vanilla almond milk. I haven't been down the cereal aisle in quite sometime but I'm sure they still have it. I did a quick search on amazon.com and there are a plethora of flavors to be found. Two drawbacks though....you have to buy in bulk (4 to 6 boxes) and they usually don't list any sort of nutritional values. Once you find your "special flavor", it is a great place to buy it cheaper. I use their Subscribe and Save feature on many of my commonly used items.

bigpassport
02-21-2012, 09:45 AM
Have any of you maintainers researched or experimented with the glycemic index? I know some of you make an effort to eat lower glycemic index foods from grains, but what about eating a low glycemic index diet across the board? I found a copy of the South Beach Diet which goes into how the GI of foods affects insulin and it seems like choosing low GI foods would be helpful to the daily regime.

gettinmygrooveback
02-21-2012, 10:08 AM
OK Maintainers...has your body temperature FINALLY regulated itself? I've about had enough of this constant chill. I'm actually wishing for hot flashes these days. :(

Pxlkitty4
02-21-2012, 10:50 AM
So... I got Udi's gluten free bread and made toast this morning. I put the butter on and was ready to have a terrible experience. I was so pleasantly surprised! It's actually really good... I'm now going totally wheat free just to see how I feel.

My plan is to do maintenace normally during the week without wheat. If I can lose a little more weight, that's a bonus!

cajunladybug22
02-21-2012, 11:15 AM
Great job! Isn't it a relief to get a few pounds off?

I'm reporting in on my reboot too. It's taken me 3.5 weeks to lose 6 lbs (on my home scale...which is what really counts for me) but I am now at my previous all time low of 134.6!! Yay!! So now the question I will face Friday morning is whether to do P1 to get my weight a little lower with the goal of 135 as my maintenance weight or whether to start P2 and hope a few more pounds drop off before P4.



Thanks! It does feel good...and great job for you too. I think my "easy lbs" are done because it was mostly water weight. Now come the tough pounds. You're doing this the right way and yay for your all time low. :)

Wishing everyone a happy Mardi Gras! One of my co-workers went down to NOLA over the weekend, and he brought back a king cake. So I had a piece for breakfast...I know....bad girl, but I'm treating it as a phase 3 day. Carbs in the morning, and then strict after that.

jennydoodle
02-21-2012, 11:37 AM
Cajun- Sorry if you have mentioned this in the past, but how long did you maintain at 130 (ish) before you decided to go back on P1? I have been hanging around 132-133 since December and am THINKING about going back on P1 to try to get to 125. I am not totally sure though.

I have been doing the 24 day Advocare cleanse and I thought I might drop a few, but that has not really been the case. I am feeling really good though, so I am going to continue (10 days to go) and see it through. But it has kind of been on my mind to lose a little more.

Anyway, I am just curious as to how long you maintained your "goal" weight before deciding to lose a little more.

Linden
02-21-2012, 11:53 AM
One of my co-workers went down to NOLA over the weekend, and he brought back a king cake. So I had a piece for breakfast...

You might find this interesting. Fun? http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120207133750.htm Saw a similar article in the NY TIMES and went looking for the original citation. This is as close as I could get.

cajunladybug22
02-21-2012, 12:15 PM
Cajun- Sorry if you have mentioned this in the past, but how long did you maintain at 130 (ish) before you decided to go back on P1? I have been hanging around 132-133 since December and am THINKING about going back on P1 to try to get to 125. I am not totally sure though.

Anyway, I am just curious as to how long you maintained your "goal" weight before deciding to lose a little more.

I stayed in the 130 - 134 range until about December (so from Aug - Dec), then I was terrible about bringing my fruits/veggies/healthy snacks to work. So between December and the beginning of Feb., I went from about 135 to 141 (mostly water weight, it looks like). So now I'm back to 136 and determined to get at least those 6lbs off.

You might find this interesting. Fun? http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120207133750.htm Saw a similar article in the NY TIMES and went looking for the original citation. This is as close as I could get.

Wow! I mean, it does follow the principal of maintenance/IP that you should have your largest meal in the morning, and it can combine fats and carbs. I wish I could have king cake every day...LOL...but I'll be satisfied when I can have my Whole Wheat English muffins back. :) Thanks for posting!

Paint Lady
02-21-2012, 12:15 PM
It's nice to see a few new faces in here. Welcome all!
My kids are out of school until Thursday for Mardi Gras. They have been keeping me really busy. It's a gorgeous day outside. The high is supposed to be in the 70's with very little humidity. We don't go to any parades, so I've just been enjoying the boys while they are home. My oldest son turns 11 tomorrow. He is going to an LSU baseball game with a friend, so we will do a little family get together tonight for his birthday. Tacos for everyone! Except I will be having a taco salad. :) We are having an ice skating party this Saturday with his friends and extended family. I'm baking chocolate chip cookie dough cupcakes with choc chip cookie dough buttercream frosting per his request. I've never made them before, but man they sound good!

New Englander
02-21-2012, 01:51 PM
OK Maintainers...has your body temperature FINALLY regulated itself? I've about had enough of this constant chill. I'm actually wishing for hot flashes these days. :(
Not a maintainer yet but I'm always cold nowadays...my thyroid is off a bit since beginning IP so it could be that but I'm wishing for summer and it use to be my least favorite season!

Pxlkitty4
02-21-2012, 02:00 PM
You might find this interesting. Fun? http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120207133750.htm Saw a similar article in the NY TIMES and went looking for the original citation. This is as close as I could get.

Hey LINDEN. How are you doing??

jennydoodle
02-21-2012, 02:02 PM
I stayed in the 130 - 134 range until about December (so from Aug - Dec), then I was terrible about bringing my fruits/veggies/healthy snacks to work. So between December and the beginning of Feb., I went from about 135 to 141 (mostly water weight, it looks like). So now I'm back to 136 and determined to get at least those 6lbs off.

Thanks. I am not sure what I am going to do, but it is good to know that before the holidays hit you were able to maintain for so long. When I hit "goal" my coach said I should see how I do maintaining this weight before I decide if I want to lose more. I guess that is where I am now. :) Right now 135 is my ceiling #, and I think it would be nice to have 130 as my ceiling number. The biggest thing for me is wrapping my head around doing P1 again. My head is definitely not ready for that ;)

jennydoodle
02-21-2012, 02:05 PM
OK Maintainers...has your body temperature FINALLY regulated itself? I've about had enough of this constant chill. I'm actually wishing for hot flashes these days. :(

I think I am getting there. I am not nearly as cold as I was on P1, but even before IP, I was cold when others were not. I have a low body temp in general (97.1 is my norm) so it could be that.

On a positive note, I have noticed that my hair is no longer coming out in handfuls. And I have quite a bit of new growth.

Gika
02-21-2012, 02:27 PM
Pxlkitty- That is great that you were able to enjoy your trip and gain so little! I'm getting really curious about this "wheat phenomenon". Just wondering, is it only wheat or other grains as well?

Cajunladybug- Congrats on the loss so far! Do you use other products from nashua? I've been thinking about ordering more alternatives.. I'm trying to go through the "Alternative products" thread at the moment.

bigpassport- Congrats on getting to your all time low! Did you gain any weight at all during phase 3 and/or 4 when you first phased off?

gettingmygrooveback- After I finished phase 3 the first time I went on vacation and didn't follow phase 4 protocol, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but mostly I wasn't cold anymore.. after maybe 1-2 days. There's only one thing that hasn't changed for me though, which is that I get really cold after eating.. this happened even while I was on vacation. I've read some info on this, but I'm not satisfied with the varied explanations I've found.. so I"ll ask my doctor next time I'm in.

Gika
02-21-2012, 02:41 PM
Ok, so phase 1 still going well so far. The baby shower was .. alright. Not a lot of phase 1 foods available there, except for some cucumber and tomato slices which was enough for me. We were late and most people had already eaten, so I ate while others were playing games and instead of trying to explain my choices... I just "pretended" to be eating more (as in I put some dips on my plate which I didn't eat and then I felt terrible for wasting food.. ) I really do have to continue working on being more blunt instead.

Jenny- Thanks for letting us know that your hair isn't falling out as much! It gives me hope that one day mine will go back to normal as well. Im using nioxin products, which seem to help some, and just started taking biotin as well.

Maile
02-21-2012, 05:48 PM
Gika..I do the same..I put things on my plate and don't eat them..It sounds like you did well at the baby shower.

I still get cold! I wear double socks. I am wondering if that will ever change!

Happy Mardi Gras Day everyone..I envy you people in LA..you must have great celebrations.

Jenny: I started maintenance with 142 in OCT,,then kept slowly losing until Jan on Phase 3/4. I got down to 128 and have stayed there. You might try losing on Phase 3 and skip the free days and increase your exercise.

fannyfaye
02-21-2012, 06:57 PM
Help, I feel so powerless right now. I'm on day 6 and have done awesome. I stayed home from work today and opened the freezer and saw a pint of Hagen daaz. I thought I'd gotten rid of everything but I saw that and without even barely a thought opened the pint and ate the whole thing in about 5 minutes. I feel like I have ruined everything and like I won't ever be able to do this right. I can't express how discouraged and pissed off at myself I am right now. I really could use some words of wisdom. I so thought I was ready. I just don't get myself sometimes. Please help if you can. Thank you! I posted this in today's daily thread also but then thought maybe some of you veterans might be able to help me. Thank you!

New Englander
02-21-2012, 07:37 PM
Help, I feel so powerless right now. I'm on day 6 and have done awesome. I stayed home from work today and opened the freezer and saw a pint of Hagen daaz. I thought I'd gotten rid of everything but I saw that and without even barely a thought opened the pint and ate the whole thing in about 5 minutes. I feel like I have ruined everything and like I won't ever be able to do this right. I can't express how discouraged and pissed off at myself I am right now. I really could use some words of wisdom. I so thought I was ready. I just don't get myself sometimes. Please help if you can. Thank you! I posted this in today's daily thread also but then thought maybe some of you veterans might be able to help me. Thank you!
Hi, I'm not a maintainer but I do lurk here often as I will be one in a handful of weeks. The best advice is just get back on track and don't dwell on this mishap. What's done is done and you can't reverse it. So, again, just get back in the saddle and prove you're ready to take this journey and live a healthy life! You can do and you are worth it (otherwise you wouldn't be so concerned). Tomorrow is a new day! Be well and stay positive! You CAN do this!

Mom3LoveBugs
02-21-2012, 08:53 PM
Hi everyone,

I hope it's okay to ask a question here!

I am 15 lbs away from my goal of 135 lbs and I am getting discouraged for a few reasons. 1) weight is barely coming off 2) I feel good and get a lot of compliments so I might be becoming complacent 3) my goal feels SO far away

I have lost 85 lbs since my heaviest weight so this has been a long road. If anyone can give me some advice on how to stay motivated to keep moving forward, it would be greatly appreciated. Also, how hard were the last 10-15 lbs for you to lose?

thank you! :hug:

Pxlkitty4
02-21-2012, 09:05 PM
Hi everyone,

I hope it's okay to ask a question here!

I am 15 lbs away from my goal of 135 lbs and I am getting discouraged for a few reasons. 1) weight is barely coming off 2) I feel good and get a lot of compliments so I might be becoming complacent 3) my goal feels SO far away

Also, how hard were the last 10-15 lbs for you to lose?

thank you! :hug:

If you stop now, it's really hard to go back to phase 1. Also, the last ten pounds were some of the hardest, but they were also some of the most rewarding. This was the first time in my entire life that I actually reached my goal weight. Finishing a diet and "almost" finishing are too completely different things. If you stop, you will always be wondering if you could have made it.

Just my two cents.

Ishbel
02-21-2012, 10:21 PM
....wow...tough crowd...no one wants to be my buddy?? lol Oooorrr! No one uses fat secret....:)

bigpassport
02-21-2012, 11:19 PM
Hi everyone,

I hope it's okay to ask a question here!

I am 15 lbs away from my goal of 135 lbs and I am getting discouraged for a few reasons. 1) weight is barely coming off 2) I feel good and get a lot of compliments so I might be becoming complacent 3) my goal feels SO far away

I have lost 85 lbs since my heaviest weight so this has been a long road. If anyone can give me some advice on how to stay motivated to keep moving forward, it would be greatly appreciated. Also, how hard were the last 10-15 lbs for you to lose?

thank you! :hug:

I agree with Pxl, if you still want to lose, stay on P1! You've lost a lot of weight, so hooray! You have to decide what your goal really is...is it just an arbitrary number you picked when you were heavy? Or is it something you want and are comfortable with now that you have a more realistic idea of what all those pounds off looks and feels like? Here is what's motivating...even if your losses are slower than they were earlier on in IP, thay are still probably faster and easier than on any other diet. It is HARD to lose weight. Stick with P1 until you are at goal, then maybe you'll lose a little bit more on P2 and 3 (which you will put back on when your glycogen atores are replenished). Stick with it, you can do it!

Maile
02-22-2012, 07:39 AM
[QUOTE=fannyfaye;4225332]Help, I feel so powerless right now. I'm on day 6 and have done awesome. I stayed home from work today and opened the freezer and saw a pint of Hagen daaz. I thought I'd gotten rid of everything but


None of us is seeking perfection..we just seek progress in keeping this weight off. You are always going to face old triggers! Just jump back on and start making progress in losing. The best thing is that the Ideal Protein plan really does work. You will lose your weight if you stay on it. It will give you tools to keep the weight off. I hope you have a better day. You can do it.

Maile
02-22-2012, 07:44 AM
Hi everyone,

I hope it's okay to ask a question here!

I am 15 lbs away from my goal of 135 lbs and I am getting discouraged for a few reasons. 1) weight is barely coming off 2) I feel good and get a lot of compliments so I might be becoming complacent 3) my goal feels SO far away

I have lost 85 lbs since my heaviest weight so this has been a long road. If anyone can give me some advice on how to stay motivated to keep moving forward, it would be greatly appreciated. Also, how hard were the last 10-15 lbs for you to lose?

thank you! :hug:
You have done so well losing 85 pounds! The last 10-15 pounds went very slowly for me also. I agree with the others..if at all possible try to stay on and reach your goal. You are very very close!
At some point your coach will put you on Phase 2 and 3 which will add more foods to what you are currently eating.
Feel free to post here even if you are not at goal. I posted here before I reached goal because I wanted advice from people who had reached their goals.

Pxlkitty4
02-22-2012, 10:15 AM
....wow...tough crowd...no one wants to be my buddy?? lol Oooorrr! No one uses fat secret....:)

Sorry... I normally track my food using the iPad app, and that doesn't tell me when I have a buddy request... I accepted your friend request.

Mom3LoveBugs
02-22-2012, 10:33 AM
You have done so well losing 85 pounds! The last 10-15 pounds went very slowly for me also. I agree with the others..if at all possible try to stay on and reach your goal. You are very very close!
At some point your coach will put you on Phase 2 and 3 which will add more foods to what you are currently eating.
Feel free to post here even if you are not at goal. I posted here before I reached goal because I wanted advice from people who had reached their goals.


thanks to everyone for the advice! :hug:

I don't have a coach... have used alternatives from the beginning. I think I will stay on Phase 1 until I reach my goal though... haven't put much thought into it yet honestly.

My first goal is to reach a healthy/normal BMI number and I am almost there. Ultimately, I want to lose 100 lbs which would put me at 135 lbs.

cajunladybug22
02-22-2012, 11:31 AM
Cajunladybug- Congrats on the loss so far! Do you use other products from nashua? I've been thinking about ordering more alternatives.. I'm trying to go through the "Alternative products" thread at the moment.

I have some IP packets left, but have also been using alternatives from Nashua and from Wal-Mart/SAMs Club.

From Nashua, I'm using the following: Proti Diet Bacon/Cheddar omelette, Healthsmart Chocolate Chip cookies, Hot cocoa (either proti-thin or proti-diet...I can't remember), Proti-thin Vanilla peanut bars (identical to IP van. peanut bars), proti-thin chocolate caramel delight bars, proti-thin chocolate peanut bars.

I use EAS Carb AdvantEdge Chocolate shakes for a replacement to RTD Chocolate, and the Vanilla as a replacement for Vanilla RTD. They're pretty good. Also there are detour bars that have similar nutritional value to the IP bars, and tastes pretty good.


Hi everyone,

I hope it's okay to ask a question here!

I am 15 lbs away from my goal of 135 lbs and I am getting discouraged for a few reasons. 1) weight is barely coming off 2) I feel good and get a lot of compliments so I might be becoming complacent 3) my goal feels SO far away

I have lost 85 lbs since my heaviest weight so this has been a long road. If anyone can give me some advice on how to stay motivated to keep moving forward, it would be greatly appreciated. Also, how hard were the last 10-15 lbs for you to lose?

thank you! :hug:

Great work on your weight loss! And definitely hang in there. It can get really hard without a coach to push you on, and as the others have said, the last 10-15 are the hardest. You don't want to lose momentum though, so stick with it. Try different preparation of your veggies (I recently tried the turnip fries for the first time, and LOVED them! And I don't eat turnips). Stick with it...you'll be so glad you did.


....wow...tough crowd...no one wants to be my buddy?? lol Oooorrr! No one uses fat secret....:)

I haven't been on there in forever....sorry if you requested me and I haven't seen it. :(


Jenny....I was the same way about the reboot...couldn't suck it up for P1. The first few days were tough, but if you just take it one day at a time, you'll get through it. And it won't take nearly as long to get below 130 as it took to take your initial weight off. What about doing P1 for like 2 weeks, then going to P2 for a few weeks. You can do anything for 14 days, right? But whatever you decide, you'll look amazing!

Would you mind giving me some more info about this cleanse?

Ishbel
02-22-2012, 11:31 AM
Ok so maybe my first post came across as "wanna be my friend? check yes or no" :D

You guys talk a lot about fat secret so I was hoping that those of you who were using it would let me see what your breakfasts were. RATHER then that! What do you guys think of this for a phase three brekkie:

1 cup of skim milk
6-7 oz of berries (raspberries probably)
1 tbsp of Kraft natural peanut butter
1 WW english muffin

Do I need an egg? I'm not sure I have enough protein.

I know a lot of you eat yogurt and there has been a lot of discussion about grains....since I'm only doing a miniphase for vacation I figured I'd take what I know (I wasn't a fan of yogurt before and will try it when I'm finally done phase 1 but I don't think it's worth my effort for only one week).

Let me know what you think?

MAINTAINisGoal
02-22-2012, 11:47 AM
Great job! Isn't it a relief to get a few pounds off?

I'm reporting in on my reboot too. It's taken me 3.5 weeks to lose 6 lbs (on my home scale...which is what really counts for me) but I am now at my previous all time low of 134.6!! Yay!! So now the question I will face Friday morning is whether to do P1 to get my weight a little lower with the goal of 135 as my maintenance weight or whether to start P2 and hope a few more pounds drop off before P4.

Welcome to the new P3 and P4 people. If it makes you feel any better, I'm nervous about gaining and what to eat on P3 and P4 too even though I've BTDT. Unlike most, however, I am not excited about P3 breakfasts. I'm not a breakfast lover so the thought of forcing myself to eat all that food seems like such a waste of carbs and calories. I think I'm going to try recipes for healthy breakfast muffins, maybe even trying almond flour. Jennydoodle is right when She says maintenance is a guessing game. We all have to find what works for us as individuals based on trial and error. I also tracked like crazy when I first went on maintenance. It is indeed much easier to let yourself go if you're not tracking daily. I'm on mfp if anyone wants to send me a pm for my screenname.

Pxl Congrats on the NY eating experiment. Nice to hear that enjoying yourself and maintaining aren't mutually exclusive.

Maile Let us know if any recipes are worth sharing!

Pauley good luck braving the scale!

Cap You must be having a great time in Hawaii! We miss you!

I tried to pm you but I don't have enough posts yet??? I just started tracking on mfp... my screen name is willowgirl11

Gika
02-22-2012, 12:02 PM
Maile- - Wow I didn't know you had lost so much AFTER phasing off. That is really encouraging! Congrats on that!

Mom3LoveBugs- I agree with what everyone else has said. It might be harder to re-start. I'm currently doing a reboot and also trying to go 3-5 lbs below my original goal. I think that part of what makes it harder (or at least I think that's the case with me) is that you don't have the sense of urgency to get the weight off.. I mean, after all you get compliments, feel good about yourself and know that you've come a long way.. so it's easier to rationalize cheats (I've had one so far doing the reboot, totally not proud of it). Good luck whatever you decide.

Cajunladybug- Thanks for the info on the alternatives you are using. Although I just bought some IP products, I think this is my very last IP purchase.. I think whatever else I need for my reboot and then for maintenance will be just alternatives. So I will definitively keep those items that you mentioned in mind. BTW don't know if you're interested or not, but lifestyle has RTDs that are supposed to be extremely similar (if not identical) to IP RTD's, but of course significantly cheaper. I just ordered a case :)

Ishbel- I think especially at the beginning it is better to plug in your meals either on fatsecret or myfitnesspal so that you know you are reaching and not going over the 30/20/25 numbers. It does indeed look to me that you might need a bit more protein. Also, it is not necessary at all to have yogurt, there are other alternatives to protein. You can use cream cheese, or cheese, eggs, egg whites, vegetarian protein (they have carbs, but I usually would just count them towards my total carbs allowed for breakfast).

Paint Lady
02-22-2012, 04:37 PM
Jenny, I occasionally have a phase 1 lunch because I'm too busy to cook or pack a protein when I'm away from the house. I just grab an EAS shake and some veggies and salad and go. If I do this 2 days in a row, I have a decent loss on the scale. I still have my phase 3 breakfast and don't eat carbs for dinner. So, basically phase 3 for breakfast, phase 1 the rest of the day and an Atkins bar for a restricted snack around 8:30 at night. I still make sure I get in tons of water and drink a cup of coffee if I'm hungry between meals. Could you try something like that for a few days and see if you lose? I hate going without my breakfast, but I don't mind as much if I don't have meat for lunch.

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
02-22-2012, 05:44 PM
If you stop now, it's really hard to go back to phase 1. Also, the last ten pounds were some of the hardest, but they were also some of the most rewarding. This was the first time in my entire life that I actually reached my goal weight. Finishing a diet and "almost" finishing are too completely different things. If you stop, you will always be wondering if you could have made it.

Just my two cents. I agree with you, I do regret "almost" reaching my goal, now it seems a long way away.

....wow...tough crowd...no one wants to be my buddy?? lol Oooorrr! No one uses fat secret....:) Sorry I have been so busy I haven't been logging anything in anywhere... of course we will be your friend.

MAINTAINisGoal
02-22-2012, 06:43 PM
Ishbel- I think especially at the beginning it is better to plug in your meals either on fatsecret or myfitnesspal so that you know you are reaching and not going over the 30/20/25 numbers.[/QUOTE]

What does 30/20/25 refer to?

Paint Lady
02-22-2012, 07:06 PM
30 grams of carbs for grain, 20 grams for fruit, 15 for fat. Must be 25 or over for protein. You want your calories to be between 400 and 500. You must not go over 50 grams total carbs for breakfast. So if you have yogurt, you have to shave those carbs away from either your grain or fruit totals. Clear as mud?

Also, your dairy isn't supposed to total over 120 calories.

Momto2cs
02-23-2012, 12:34 AM
I'm glad I read this thread today.

My original goal was 140, but I never quite got that low. Im now at 147, and have decided to stick with phase 1 until I hit 140 or my dh makes his goal, which is about 30 or 40 more pounds.

I am completely satisfied on phase 1, and this way I can make us the same thing every day.

I think my longer term realistic maintenance weight will be closer to 145. I just have too much muscle to stay much lower...

Maile
02-23-2012, 07:10 AM
Momto2cs: It sounds like you have a good plan and are on your way to reaching your goal. There is a satisfaction to Phase 1 where you can easily plan what you are going to eat everyday!

Maintain: So far my new recipes have not been too exciting..but were a lot of work!

Ish: I would also plug your meals into a tracker to check the numbers! However, that breakfast looks good..just check the protein, carbs, fats,.

Gika: I was pleased to see weight loss continue. Yesterday I lost another inch and a half from my previous coach check. Hopefully it is muscle.

Mom3: You can do it. It does get hard to stay focused with everyone telling you how great you look, and it slowing down. I like HealthSmart Cinnamon cereal from Nashua.


Progress in maintenance: I bought a fitted salmon colored pair of capris. I went home and was happy about the new purchase. I realized later that I did not jump into my neurotic fear that occurred months ago..of buying a low size and then worrying about whether I would still fit it in the next few months.

I saw my coach yesterday. We calculated that I have lost 14 inches from my waist! That was a huge amount of extra inches I was carrying!!!!!

Ishbel
02-23-2012, 08:25 AM
Thanks for the suggestions, I actually did put it in to fatsecret. Although! I don't see on my phase 3 sheet that it could be no more then 50 grams total. I do see the 30 grain carbs/20 fruit carbs/15 fat and 120 diary and 400-500 calories. I guess it makes sense but it wasn't specific on my sheet.

So thanks for the tip Paintlady, I did 'shave' some from the muffin to get the total carbs down AND include an egg so now I'm feeling much more comfortable for next week's Phase 3.

Although, not losing two weeks in a row is very frustrating and to top it all of someone told me flat out yesterday that "you should stop losing weight you look sick" and I said "Pardon me? No I do NOT look sick and I'm not going to stop" she said "yes you do!" So I glared and walked away, but I was furious!

What did you guys/gals say to those people on your 'journey'??

desperatetolosegirl
02-23-2012, 09:19 AM
Hi All,
How long did it take you all to lose the last 10 lbs, 2 months? 3 months? I would appreciate your reponse. I still have 12 lbs to goal and need some motivation.
Thanks a bunch

bigpassport
02-23-2012, 09:26 AM
I just sent MFP friend requests to Pxlkitty4, Ishbel, and Maintainisgoal (willowgirl11). Did I miss anyone who wants to play on the MFP playground?

Pxlkitty4
02-23-2012, 09:33 AM
I just sent MFP friend requests to Pxlkitty4, Ishbel, and Maintainisgoal (willowgirl11). Did I miss anyone who wants to play on the MFP playground?

I don't do myfitnesspal. I'm on fatsecret and here. That's enough for me.

bigpassport
02-23-2012, 09:54 AM
I don't do myfitnesspal. I'm on fatsecret and here. That's enough for me.

Oops, ok, I get the names of the two confused. I'm on both, but I only really use MFP.

I started a new thread to compile info on what alternative products are the same as IP products. I know a couple of you have recently mentioned products you've found that are in the same packaging. Please contribute to the list!

Pxlkitty4
02-23-2012, 10:20 AM
Oops, ok, I get the names of the two confused. I'm on both, but I only really use MFP.

I started a new thread to compile info on what alternative products are the same as IP products. I know a couple of you have recently mentioned products you've found that are in the same packaging. Please contribute to the list!

I think I signed up for MFP at some point, and then didn't like the mobile app and so don't use it at all...

TracyAWC
02-23-2012, 10:38 AM
1 whole joseph's flax/oat bran/whole wheat lavash

What is this and where does one find it?

It's a kind of flatbread like a wrap but it's rectangular and quite large so good for a bread base - I toast it first in the oven and then throw stuff on it - I think it would also be a good with almond/pb though I haven't tried that yet. I get it at my regular grocery store - stop and shop or market basket. I'll try to post a link...


Ishbel - I am on myfitnesspal - same U/N. I'm on my 6th day of P3 and happy to share info/food diary etc.

Has anyone tried the powdered peanut butter PB2 (comes in a choc/pb mix too)? I'm not too hung up on fat but it's lower calorie and yummy when added to a shake. I'm thinking the shiratake noodles stir fried in coconut oil and powdered peanut might approximate a nice Thai dish...

Also - so it was hammered into me that the only difference between P1 and P2 was that lunch changed. But now (midway into P3) I noticed that although P1 dinner protein was upped to 8 oz that didn't translate into P2 and I've kept up my increased dinner protein. Has everyone lowered their protein? I'm still losing in P3 even with the big breakfast and higher protein and so I'm reluctant to mess with it.

And I'm glad to hear other people get cold - sometimes in the house I just walk around with a comforter wrapped around myself!

MAINTAINisGoal
02-23-2012, 10:50 AM
[QUOTE=Maile: Progress in maintenance: I bought a fitted salmon colored pair of capris. I went home and was happy about the new purchase. I realized later that I did not jump into my neurotic fear that occurred months ago..of buying a low size and then worrying about whether I would still fit it in the next few months.

I saw my coach yesterday. We calculated that I have lost 14 inches from my waist! That was a huge amount of extra inches I was carrying!!!!![/QUOTE]

Maile: congratulation first on your weight loss but more importantly congrats on your MAINTENANCE. Without experiencing neurotic fear buying a low size means that you've reached maintenance in your head as well as your body!!! Salmon capris sound cute... I might need those for our upcoming vaca to Maui. Where'd you find them?:cool:

MAINTAINisGoal
02-23-2012, 10:57 AM
I started a new thread to compile info on what alternative products are the same as IP products. I know a couple of you have recently mentioned products you've found that are in the same packaging. Please contribute to the list!

Thanks Lee... I started FatSecret but MFP (my username: willowgirl11) is easier to use on my phone which makes instant tracking so much easier.

I've been IP products since Sept. As I prepare to "phase out"... starting phase 2 today... I plan on using alternative products. I've been researching a little... I'll contribute to the list once my order arrives. I'm starting with Nashua.

Pauley
02-23-2012, 11:23 AM
Congrats on 14 inches from your waist and new little pants Maile! That is exciting.

I'll send you a friend request bigpassport on MFP. I use it religiously and friends = accountability! I will try to figure out who the others are as well.

Desperate - I think it took me 3 months or so to lose the last 10 lbs on maintenance. Much slower than phase 1.

I just suffered through 3 solid days of phase 1 to compensate for a full weekend of general free range eating and bad living. I had headaches, fatigue and was freezing cold, but managed to get back to 158 this morning. Thank goodness! I had pancakes for breakfast and I already feel better!

Mom3LoveBugs
02-23-2012, 11:23 AM
Hi All,
How long did it take you all to lose the last 10 lbs, 2 months? 3 months? I would appreciate your reponse. I still have 12 lbs to goal and need some motivation.
Thanks a bunch

I asked a similar question a few days ago.... basically everyone agrees that the last few pounds are the hardest and take the longest to get off.

I have 15 lbs to go until my goal and have been stuck at the same weight for a few weeks. It's rather discouraging!

cajunladybug22
02-23-2012, 12:03 PM
I just sent MFP friend requests to Pxlkitty4, Ishbel, and Maintainisgoal (willowgirl11). Did I miss anyone who wants to play on the MFP playground?

ME! I'm Cajunladybug22. :)

It's a kind of flatbread like a wrap but it's rectangular and quite large so good for a bread base - I toast it first in the oven and then throw stuff on it - I think it would also be a good with almond/pb though I haven't tried that yet. I get it at my regular grocery store - stop and shop or market basket. I'll try to post a link...


Ishbel - I am on myfitnesspal - same U/N. I'm on my 6th day of P3 and happy to share info/food diary etc.



I just requested you and willow11



Hope everyone is doing well today! I un-did my king cake damage in one P1 day!!! Woo hoo for reboots! I'm seriously craving pb though. Bad girl!

Momto2cs
02-23-2012, 01:25 PM
It has taken me since jan 2 to lose 12 pounds. That's 7 weeks.

I anticipate the last few will be equally slow, although I am staying on phase 1 for a while yet.

MAINTAINisGoal
02-23-2012, 01:41 PM
[QUOTE=Pauley;4227641] I will try to figure out who the others are as well.

Pauley I'm on mfg as willowgirl11. I live in Pac NW and would love to "track" with you as well.

MAINTAINisGoal
02-23-2012, 02:16 PM
You Maintainers are AMAZING... I've learned so much following you over the last 6 weeks. I will stop "stalking" you and officially introduce myself.

I started P1 in Sept. and lost 25 lbs over two months. I then phased out for the holidays with the plan to restart January with my DH. Unfortunately I did NOT follow P4 the last two weeks of December and gained a total of 10 lbs between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

My DH and I started at P1 January 4th. My "secondary goal" was to lose the 10 lbs I gained over holidays plus another 10-15 to reach "revised" goal. My primary goal is to LEARN what to do the rest of my life and MAINTAIN at "goal" weight (still not sure what that is???). Third goal was to have DH join me so we could learn the tools to have a "healthy household". That's when I started "stalking" you.

At first I was discouraged when I realized how hard you all work to maintain and how careful you must be with carbs/fats. After getting over my initial dissapointment I realized this is exactly what I needed to hear to prepare myself to "phase out" and go into maintenance.

I'm now under initial goal weight but 2-7 lbs over "revised" goal weight. We decided to phase out now in preparation for trip to Maui in 5 weeks. If necessary we'll hit P1 again after vacation.

I work at a fitness club (started as a member in April and employee in August). I joined the club when I realized I could wait no longer to get the weight off before I started strength training. I'm 51 and have alot of ground to make up for the years I did no disciplined strength/cardio training. I've continued to work out the whole time I've been on IP because I worked too hard for that gained strength and was receiving too many health benefits to discontinue. My DH has worked out the whole time he is on IP as well. We both are experiencing slower than average weight loss... but we're OK with that. I had surgery in January and unfortunately have had a lot of complications. I was NOT able to workout the last four weeks and REALLY missed it. I started again this week and am truly appreciating the overall health benefits.

After being "stuck" at same weight for two weeks I decided to NOT eat any restricted the last two days. Today was weigh in... lost 2.4lbs and 2.9inches. I'm also .3% away from reaching my Body Fat % goal.

Even though my DH is 10+lbs away from goal weight we're going to start P2 today to prepare for trip. We'll continue to excercise while "phasing out". I'm struggling with what to have for lunch (protein) on P2. It would be alot easier to just have an IP packet. I'm not crazy about meat and have to get really creative for dinner. Now I have to double my creativity:?:!!!

Having learned from you the importance of "tracking" I first joined MyFatSecret??? (oops don't know if that's the name). I find MyFitnessPal a little easier to use so I reopened an old account. My user name is willowgirl11.

I'm sorry for the long intro... I didn't know where to start (or obviously stop;)). Again, thank you for all your contributions which have helped me/DH immensely!!!

Momto2cs
02-23-2012, 02:39 PM
It funny how we are all different.
I also work out regularly. I have found adding restricted to my diet improved my weight loss! I lost 3.2 pounds this week...I am surprised to lose so much close to my goal.
What is your bodyfat goal? I know the scales are innacurrate, but I would like to see 15% and have a visible 6 pack. I can see it now, but am probably 5-7 pounds from that.
I am 40. I know every year makes it all harder. That's why I never stopped exercising throughout ip.

For me maintaining worked using a combination of low carb week days with more flexible weekends. I never added grains back to my diet. I don't expect I will.

New Englander
02-23-2012, 07:50 PM
It funny how we are all different.
I also work out regularly. I have found adding restricted to my diet improved my weight loss! I lost 3.2 pounds this week...I am surprised to lose so much close to my goal.
What is your bodyfat goal? I know the scales are innacurrate, but I would like to see 15% and have a visible 6 pack. I can see it now, but am probably 5-7 pounds from that.
I am 40. I know every year makes it all harder. That's why I never stopped exercising throughout ip.

For me maintaining worked using a combination of low carb week days with more flexible weekends. I never added grains back to my diet. I don't expect I will.
The only six pack I'll ever see is the one that will be in my fridge once I get to P4.

Momto2cs
02-23-2012, 10:17 PM
Ha ha ha. Maybe that should be my philosophy too....

bigpassport
02-23-2012, 11:19 PM
It funny how we are all different.
I also work out regularly. I have found adding restricted to my diet improved my weight loss! I lost 3.2 pounds this week...I am surprised to lose so much close to my goal.
What is your bodyfat goal? I know the scales are innacurrate, but I would like to see 15% and have a visible 6 pack. I can see it now, but am probably 5-7 pounds from that.
I am 40. I know every year makes it all harder. That's why I never stopped exercising throughout ip.

For me maintaining worked using a combination of low carb week days with more flexible weekends. I never added grains back to my diet. I don't expect I will.

Wow. What body fat percentage are you at now? I have no ideal what to make my goal.

Momto2cs
02-23-2012, 11:56 PM
On the bio impedance scale at my clinic I am at 17%. I have a reasonably large build, with quite a bit of muscle. I normally work out 6-10 hours a week.
These last few pounds have really brought out muscle definition on me. But to really see that I do expect I would have to get down near 140.

Pxlkitty4
02-24-2012, 07:50 AM
Thanks for the suggestions, I actually did put it in to fatsecret. ...
Although, not losing two weeks in a row is very frustrating and to top it all of someone told me flat out yesterday that "you should stop losing weight you look sick" and I said "Pardon me? No I do NOT look sick and I'm not going to stop" she said "yes you do!" So I glared and walked away, but I was furious!

What did you guys/gals say to those people on your 'journey'??

I stopped talking about things. If someone said that I looked good, I said "thank you" and that was it. For the few people that said "you are bordering on being too thin," I had two responses. If I knew them well, I said "ah, yes, but you haven't seen me naked..." For others, I simply said "I'm working with a doctor and he is monitoring my goal weight and we will revise it together if he feels I'm getting too thin."

People have a mental image. You are challenging them. Also, they are probably not happy with themselves and this is their way of saying that you should stop so that they can feel better about themselves.

Hi All,
How long did it take you all to lose the last 10 lbs, 2 months? 3 months? I would appreciate your reponse. I still have 12 lbs to goal and need some motivation.
Thanks a bunch

Let me see... Fatsecret weight tracker time... Tomorrow is the one year anniversary of when I started Ideal Protein... I hit 154 on July 22nd... and 145 on Sept 15th... So, the last ten pounds took about 7 weeks. I know it seems like a very long time, but then at least you are struggling with the last 10 lbs and not the first 50 or whatever the number might be.


Also - so it was hammered into me that the only difference between P1 and P2 was that lunch changed. But now (midway into P3) I noticed that although P1 dinner protein was upped to 8 oz that didn't translate into P2 and I've kept up my increased dinner protein. Has everyone lowered their protein? I'm still losing in P3 even with the big breakfast and higher protein and so I'm reluctant to mess with it.


Don't change a thing if what you are doing is working for you.

The only six pack I'll ever see is the one that will be in my fridge once I get to P4.

:D

Linden
02-24-2012, 08:45 AM
Hey LINDEN. How are you doing??

Vertebra's not healing the way it should but I'm in a new brace and have hopes. And am planning a 5 day little trip to Paris soon so life looks good. I'm thinking of stopping in to Dr Chahn's office there and checking out the packets. Thanks for asking. :)

MAINTAINisGoal, you don't have to have meat all the time. I enjoy fish soup, Dover sole, tuna salad, sardines, smoked salmon and mackerel (organic, low salt smoked), shrimp cocktail (heavy on the lemon juice and horseradish), etc. Of course, I guess one has to like fish. :o

bigpassport
02-24-2012, 09:02 AM
At first I was discouraged when I realized how hard you all work to maintain and how careful you must be with carbs/fats. After getting over my initial dissapointment I realized this is exactly what I needed to hear to prepare myself to "phase out" and go into maintenance.

A couple thoughts. One, several of us have been working off a few pounds gained over the holidays or are doing an annual IP reboot, so we might seem more diet-y than the rest of the year. Two, Phase 4 is figuring out what works for you then sticking with it. Once you do find what works for you, if you can keep a routine it's not too hard to maintain. The real challenges are vacations, holidays, special occasions, etc. Welcome to maintenance. You're going to do great!

Maile
02-24-2012, 09:23 AM
Maile: congratulation first on your weight loss but more importantly congrats on your MAINTENANCE. Without experiencing neurotic fear buying a low size means that you've reached maintenance in your head as well as your body!!! Salmon capris sound cute... I might need those for our upcoming vaca to Maui. Where'd you find them?:cool:
I found them at Shopko. They match my salmon colored sweater from Costco! You have had a very inspiring story with loss and sharing with your husband.
On the meat issue: I make frozen turkey burgers and keep them to grab as needed. Also sometimes I use tofu or endame for a protein.
Good luck on Phase 2 and your trip to Maui.

Maile
02-24-2012, 09:25 AM
Hi All,
How long did it take you all to lose the last 10 lbs, 2 months? 3 months? I would appreciate your reponse. I still have 12 lbs to goal and need some motivation.
Thanks a bunch
I honestly cannot remember..I am guessing two months.
Hang in there! It will come off..you can have weeks of no or slow loss.

Maile
02-24-2012, 09:26 AM
Pauley: I am glad you are back on track and feeling better. I cannot figure out why I have days when I am freezing cold also..then other days when I am not as cold.


Ishbel: That would make me furious also. People who are insecure try to lash out and control you. I have definitely experienced that at work. My boss told me that I was thin enough and that I could stop losing. I confronted him and told him that my dr. agree with my weight and that my BMI was normal. I would suggest using the dr route of saying this is a healthy weight for me ...and my dr agrees.
However, nothing will penetrate that idiot who talked to you.

Just yesterday someone at work said to me..are you still losing? I said no I have been maintaining for 4 months. The said good..you do not need to lose anymore.
Now again they have no right to tell me what I should weigh.

A friend told me that being overweight is now considered the norm in the US. So those of us that are normal or thin are considered strange.
I heard that in 2020 they are predicting that half of the people in the US will have diabetes due to being overweight.

Maile
02-24-2012, 09:36 AM
Vertebra's not healing the way it should but I'm in a new brace and have hopes. And am planning a 5 day little trip to Paris soon so life looks good. I'm thinking of stopping in to Dr Chahn's office there and checking out the packets. Thanks for asking. :)

MAINTAINisGoal, you don't have to have meat all the time. I enjoy fish soup, Dover sole, tuna salad, sardines, smoked salmon and mackerel (organic, low salt smoked), shrimp cocktail (heavy on the lemon juice and horseradish), etc. Of course, I guess one has to like fish. :o
Linden..I have been thinking about you also..I am sorry you are having a slow recovery from your accident. I hope that brace helps you. Paris sounds exciting!

bigpassport
02-24-2012, 09:38 AM
Last 10 lbs...

O7/13/2011 147
08/17/2011 136.5

samyswan
02-24-2012, 10:07 AM
On P1 for 2 weeks to take off 8 lbs gained since Nov. Strangely, I feel more secure being on P1, although the decision to start was hard. Lessons learned on maintenance: don't keep sugary snacks in the house; eat breakfast! Good luck to all.

Mom3LoveBugs
02-24-2012, 11:12 AM
I honestly cannot remember..I am guessing two months.
Hang in there! It will come off..you can have weeks of no or slow loss.


jumping in here... thanks for the info. I have stalled for the last few weeks... lose a pound, gain it back and it's getting really frustrating and I'm finding it harder to WANT to stick to the plan when I'm not getting anywhere.

Not sure what else I should do... :(

MAINTAINisGoal
02-24-2012, 11:56 AM
YOn the meat issue: I make frozen turkey burgers and keep them to grab as needed. Also sometimes I use tofu or endame for a protein.

Thank you for your encouragement and suggestions... again thank you for all of your posts in Maintenance thread.

What are your favorite ways to prepare edamame and tofu? Do you eat adamame whole/fresh?

MAINTAINisGoal
02-24-2012, 12:07 PM
What is your bodyfat goal? I know the scales are innacurrate, but I would like to see 15% and have a visible 6 pack. I can see it now, but am probably 5-7 pounds from that.

My body fat % last year at this time was in the mid 30%. First goal was to hit 25%... I'm currently 25.3%. Now I'd like to be in the low to mid 20's. With 5-7 lbs remaining to hit "revised" goal weight my revised body fat % might just happen!

Keep in mind, before joing my current fit club, I've had no long-term resistance-training experience. I was always able to change the scale the quickest by strict calorie restriction. Of course without much lean muscle as soon as I went off "diet" I'd gain everything back PLUS MORE FAT!!!

So you can see that combined resistance training/interval cardio and a thoughtful, healthy eating plan has not only been exciting in weight loss but given me the tools I need to maintain.

Also, tracking and "friends" to keep me accountable will be essential in my maintenance success.

Ishbel
02-24-2012, 12:30 PM
I just sent MFP friend requests to Pxlkitty4, Ishbel, and Maintainisgoal (willowgirl11). Did I miss anyone who wants to play on the MFP playground?

I'm sorry, I've just been playing with fatsecret. I'm only in a mini phase off for a vacation right now. I will be back to Phase 1 as of the 15 March until the end.

jumping in here... thanks for the info. I have stalled for the last few weeks... lose a pound, gain it back and it's getting really frustrating and I'm finding it harder to WANT to stick to the plan when I'm not getting anywhere.

Not sure what else I should do... :(

I'm with you Sara :hug: My two weeks of 0 loss/gain is very frustrating to me :(. I did to back through my journals and I've decided to eat exactly what I did during the first month. I love my salad at night but apparently I was eating baked veggies during that first month. My coach believes that after 10 months my body knows exactly what it's getting so I'm essentially in a stall and that doing a mini phase off for vacation will confuse it and 'shock' it.

She did have other options that she suggested before I told her how close to Mexico I was and that my mini phase off was within a week anyway. I can forward them to you if you like...??

Mom3LoveBugs
02-24-2012, 01:08 PM
I'm with you Sara :hug: My two weeks of 0 loss/gain is very frustrating to me :(. I did to back through my journals and I've decided to eat exactly what I did during the first month. I love my salad at night but apparently I was eating baked veggies during that first month. My coach believes that after 10 months my body knows exactly what it's getting so I'm essentially in a stall and that doing a mini phase off for vacation will confuse it and 'shock' it.

She did have other options that she suggested before I told her how close to Mexico I was and that my mini phase off was within a week anyway. I can forward them to you if you like...??

Yes, I would appreciate that so much! thank you! :hug:

I am debating adding a few more calories into my diet... still do low carb, high protein but up my calories to the 1200 range. I think with the amount of exercise I do, maybe I am not getting enough.

Gika
02-24-2012, 01:53 PM
Ishbel- That is so rude what that person told you. I think that your response was appropriate. Depending on who the comment is coming from, I either laugh it out and say, something like, "no, not really, I'm not even close to being too thin" or if it comes from people I don't know I just ignore them. Most of the people I know are aware that a Dr. has been supervising my diet.

Maintainisgoal - Thanks for sharing your story, and welcome to this thread. I didn't like phase 2 that much either for the same reason. I ended up having eggs and tuna a lot of times for lunch protein. For some reason, I have developed a love for eggs now. I didn't have them often at all before IP

Desperatetolosegirl- It took me 8 weeks for the last 10 lbs

Linden- I hope the new brace helps speed up your recovery. It would be really nice to meet Dr Chahn.. and ask like a million questions :D

Mom3lovebugs and Ishbel - As far as stalls, the biggest lesson that I learned throughout IP was that it is important to switch things up. Sometimes that will mean increasing carbs, sometimes it will mean reducing them, eating different vegetables, different types of protein, etc. I definitively switched things up a lot the last couple of months in IP.. that allowed me to continue losing steadily.. although slowly.


Reboot still going well.. although I had a couple of days of being extremely hunger.. as in tummy-growling-threatening to eat itself- hungry. I usually don't have lettuce for lunch, but I've had it for 2 days now. I had a Dr's apt at 8am today and stomach was growling already. Thyroid test came back "borderline" high AGAIN... I really do think that has something to do with my slower-than-average losses.. One more reason to be thankful to have found IP though.. the fact that I can still lose.

I got my RTD shakes from Lifestyle. The nutritional info is the same, ingredients are the same, packaging is the same, and flavor I think is almost the same.. (I"m not completely sure if it is identical since I haven't had an IP rtd shake in a while). Price is much better, but shipping was a killer.. I think that if I order from then again I"ll have to place the $200 order to get free shipping. I didn't want to order more than one case this time since I had no idea how they would taste.

TracyAWC
02-24-2012, 01:59 PM
Just finished up my first week of P3 and I'm down another pound - what I"m more happy about is that my arms are finally losing. I'm thinking that if they go down again this week I may stay on P3 a bit longer.

I looked and it's taken me 7 weeks as well to lose the last 10 pounds - lucky number I guess!

Breakfast today was PB and J yogurt - icelandic yogurt with 1 T reduced sugar strawberry preserves/2T PB2 powdered PB/30 carbs worth of Natures Path organic PB granola - very good!


Thanks pxlkitty I'll stay with what works!

bigpassport
02-24-2012, 09:45 PM
Reboot report...instead of a 2 week P1 pancreas re-set as I originally planned, I did 4 weeks on P1 to lose a little weight. I'm down to a new low on my home scale (yay!) so I graduated to P2 today. The protocol is P2 for 2 weeks, then P3 for 2 weeks. I hope to lose 4 lbs in those 4 weeks...then I'll be able to say I lost 40 lbs on IP!

Have a great weekend everyone!

Momto2cs
02-24-2012, 10:22 PM
Wow. Great job lee! I look forward to seeing how phase 2 works for you!