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SaraBean
01-29-2012, 02:21 PM
I have been on IP for about 6 weeks. Everything has been great thus far, but I have had pretty bad stomach pains for about a week now.

I can't figure out if it is acid reflux or something else. The pain is in the center of my stomach right below my rib cage. It feels tight and burns. It hurts constantly, but will get really severe for a few hours. The severity is not linked to when I am eating, it just happens randomly.

I decided to give it a week to see if it would go away, but it still persists. I am planning on going to the doctor tomorrow, but I am curious has anyone else experienced something similar?

I read a few posts that mention Gallstones and Gallbladder issues. I have never had problems before....

thanks.


Ishbel
01-29-2012, 02:44 PM
Best bet is go to the doc, especially since it's been a week.

Not that I'm a doc...but if it's right under your right breast area (under the rib cage)...could potentially be a gallstone. I didn't have issues with my gallbladder until I did...sometimes they just show up. My sister had one 'attack' and she hasn't had one since. Mine showed up and well, just wouldn't go away so I had mine taken out.

hmt1372
01-29-2012, 03:06 PM
I have been on IP for about 6 weeks. Everything has been great thus far, but I have had pretty bad stomach pains for about a week now.

I can't figure out if it is acid reflux or something else. The pain is in the center of my stomach right below my rib cage. It feels tight and burns. It hurts constantly, but will get really severe for a few hours. The severity is not linked to when I am eating, it just happens randomly.

I decided to give it a week to see if it would go away, but it still persists. I am planning on going to the doctor tomorrow, but I am curious has anyone else experienced something similar?

I read a few posts that mention Gallstones and Gallbladder issues. I have never had problems before....

thanks.

I agree with Ishbel, best bet is to go to the doctor. Could you be sensitive to the soy in the products? When I had a severe gallbladder attack, it was pain in my upper back, right beneath my shoulder blade, and the pain didn't stop until I had my gallbladder removed. Wishing you well at your appointment and hope it is nothing serious.


SaraBean
01-29-2012, 03:18 PM
Thanks. I don't think I am sensitive to the soy...I have been on the diet since Dec 10th and haven't felt sick like this until now. I will definitely mention IP to my doctor and explain the changes to my diet.

The other interesting thing I didn't mention earlier is that I skipped my period this month. The people at IP told be that my Birth Control pill wouldn't work as well and to use additional protection... Anyway I took a pregnancy test and I'm not pregnant, but it is sort-of interesting that I skipped a month...

While reading about gallstones I learned that losing a lot of weight over a short period of time and birth control pills / pregnancy may cause them to form.....

Definitely glad I am going to the Doc.

Thanks again for your support :)

galpal445
01-30-2012, 11:24 AM
I have acid problems and was formerly on an prescription acid reducer. I have stopped taking it but sometimes my stomach will still give me problems so I chew 1 Sugar-Free Tums tablet and that takes care of my problem. I'm glad you will be seeing your doctor just to be sure it isn't something you need to be concerned about but I would also try the Tums and see if that helps.
Nan

BACKDROPsilhouette
01-30-2012, 11:32 AM
It's probably not gallstones, but gall sludge. When you lose weight quickly, sometimes the gallbladder starts to filter fat rather than what it normally does. I know this because my it happened to my mom when she lost 15 pounds quickly (a couple of months later stones formed and she had to have her gallbladder removed), and my aunt had been on IP a couple of weeks. She formed sludge in the past couple of days.

SaraBean
01-30-2012, 02:07 PM
Thanks for the advice. I went to the doctors and they scheduled me for an ultrasound and took blood to see if my liver was functioning properly.

I also read about "sludge" This could definitely be what's going on. It is scary that it could turn into gallstones!

What is your aunt doing to make the sludge go away??? Is she staying on the diet?

I have my next IP weigh in on Wednesday. I will be sure to discuss these concerns.

BACKDROPsilhouette
01-30-2012, 02:13 PM
I believe she is doing the modified version of IP that diabetics use. Unfortunately, I don't think there is any way to make the sludge go away, so you could stay on IP if you are comfortable with it.

When my mom first formed sludge, she would be in pain for a day and usually have to take medication to ease it, then it would go away for maybe a month until she had another "attack."

SaraBean
01-30-2012, 03:18 PM
Thanks for the info BACKDROP :)

I guess I will wait and see what my ultrasound results show and talk with my IP reps on Wednesday and go from there.

SaraBean
01-31-2012, 04:15 PM
BACKDROP do you know what type of medication she would take?

Thanks :)

mompattie
01-31-2012, 08:41 PM
Buscopan likely (the med u were asking about), and I'm betting on gallbladder which U/S will be good to help diagnose

SaraBean
02-01-2012, 12:17 PM
Thanks mompattie :)

I am looking forward to my U/S... unfortunately it isn't scheduled for another week.

I did read about a cleanse that may help the symptoms. (its drinking olive oil with lemon juice before going to bed). I tried it last night and my pains aren't as severe today.

Ugh. I love the results of this diet and really hope I can continue with it... Only time will tell :)

Ishbel
02-01-2012, 01:15 PM
You can get sludge even without your gallbladder. I still have sludge problems and I've had my gallbadder out for almost 5 years. Your liver still produces the bile it needs so the sludge can still happen. It's quite common and a good comment for here (forgot to mention it).

SaraBean
02-01-2012, 05:06 PM
Ishbel, so what can one do to help alleviate symptoms of this sludge? Would the Novi-Cleanse help?

Do you still have problems with it?

Ishbel
02-01-2012, 05:25 PM
It just depends on what you eat sometimes I know and sometimes I don't know what it was. Some people call it phantom pain but because of my issues after the surgery I know that it's sludge. Reflecting as I type this...mostly it's from really fatty foods so I haven't had any real pain since being on this diet. I do believe my lack of a gallbladder and issues with sludge are why I have problems balancing the big D and big C.

Sorry I can't help you, but its definately something you want to look after. I didn't look after my gallbladder issue because of other reasons and it really affected me. It is definately relatable to why I had a lot of complications (cause I refused to go under as soon as they wanted me too).

If you have gallstones and the doc says 'get them out'....GET THEM OUT. I had my own personal reasons for not doing the surgery (waited 3-4 months) but it had nothing to do with a diet (as to why I waited).

Porthardygurl
02-01-2012, 05:27 PM
Im on an acid reducer medication as well called "Tecta" ... it works really well..im also on a stomach medication that helps your stomach to empty out faster..Sometimes when you have been overweight or obese a long time, your stomach can slow down on emptying into the intestinal tract and so the food sits their longer and goes sour..ever since i started taking that medication , ive felt a lot better...its called Ratio-Donperidone...it works awesome...it doesnt make you feel hungry or anything..it just helps move stomach contents into the intestine so that its not sitting in your stomach for longer than normal periods.

Porthardygurl
02-01-2012, 05:28 PM
i agree with others too..you could have something called BILLARY COLIC..its a condition in which your gall bladder has been strained from pumping an excess amount of bile into your stomach..its basically over-working and in turn it gets sore...An acid reducer medication and some extra strength tylenol will help that problem if thats what it is. It will get better and go away within a few weeks.

SaraBean
02-02-2012, 01:45 PM
So my IP couch looked through her manual and didn't find any place indicating that this diet can cause gallbladder issues... She is having me stay on it for another week and wait until I have my ultrasound. She was more concerned that I was pregnant. I haven't lost weigh the last two weigh-ins and my inches have increased only on my belly. I told her I was bloated, but she wants me to take another pregnancy test. YIKES! I am 99% sure I'm not prego..... but I guess this is To be continued.......

BACKDROPsilhouette
02-02-2012, 01:48 PM
I'm not sure of the medication my mom took! D; I think it was Vicodin.

Also, it wouldn't say in anything that IP would cause gallbladder issue, because it could happen on any diet or with any instance of losing weight quickly. That's why when people have the gastric bypass, their gallbladder is removed to prevent the sludge from forming.

SaraBean
02-02-2012, 02:11 PM
I agree with you Backdrop! That probably is the reason why it didn't say anything in the manual :) My coach was super nice and told me she was going to do some more research for me for next week. It just freaks me out that she was so insistent on me being pregnant.....

It also is discouraging that I haven't lost any weight in two weeks. I am doing everything to the T with the diet.... no cheating... drinking all my water... taking all my pills..... :(

I am starting to wonder why I am bothering to stick it out when it is just making me feel sick and I'm not even seeing results. UGH. I keep telling myself to just deal with it for one more week.

SaraBean
02-07-2012, 11:17 PM
Well I go for my ultrasound in the morning. I had my yearly with my obgyn today and I am not pregnant....so now I just need to find out if I have gallstones or sludge. I'm nervous to go and hope it isn't anything serious.

mompattie
02-07-2012, 11:50 PM
Well I go for my ultrasound in the morning. I had my yearly with my obgyn today and I am not pregnant....so now I just need to find out if I have gallstones or sludge. I'm nervous to go and hope it isn't anything serious.

Good luck and keep us posted!!!

SaraBean
02-08-2012, 05:28 PM
Here's the update. It looks like my gallblladder doesn't have stones but may have sludge. The doctors explained to me that often times when you lose weight it can upset your gallbadder (like some of you mentioned above). They also mentioned that a low fat diet it can also cause issues.

I know that the protocol is to have at least 2 tablespoons of olive oil a day and I realized today that my problems all started happening when I switched from using my own oil olive dressing to WF. Maybe I wasn't getting enough oil from cooking alone?

So as of now I am going to switch back to my oil dressing and hope that they pains go away. I don't want to get my gallbladder removed so hopefully this will solve my problems.

infoplease
02-08-2012, 06:04 PM
Here's the update. It looks like my gallblladder doesn't have stones but may have sludge. The doctors explained to me that often times when you lose weight it can upset your gallbadder (like some of you mentioned above). They also mentioned that a low fat diet it can also cause issues.

I know that the protocol is to have at least 2 tablespoons of olive oil a day and I realized today that my problems all started happening when I switched from using my own oil olive dressing to WF. Maybe I wasn't getting enough oil from cooking alone?

So as of now I am going to switch back to my oil dressing and hope that they pains go away. I don't want to get my gallbladder removed so hopefully this will solve my problems.

I am so glad they had an explanation; I'm sure that is some relief for you.

I believe protocol is 2 teaspoons (not Tablespoons). Did the doctor suggest 2 Tablespoons?

I hope it makes a difference for you. You could probably just add the oil to the WF dressing if you really enjoy the WF flavor.

SaraBean
02-12-2012, 12:10 PM
I am so glad they had an explanation; I'm sure that is some relief for you.

I believe protocol is 2 teaspoons (not Tablespoons). Did the doctor suggest 2 Tablespoons?

I hope it makes a difference for you. You could probably just add the oil to the WF dressing if you really enjoy the WF flavor.

Thanks infoplease :) I meant to write teaspoon not tablespoons... I wish it was two tablespoons!

That is a great idea to mix it in with the WF dressing. Thanks.

I do feel relieved too. Its a good feeling.

Aunt Sheshie
02-12-2012, 01:33 PM
Thanks mompattie :)

I am looking forward to my U/S... unfortunately it isn't scheduled for another week.

I did read about a cleanse that may help the symptoms. (its drinking olive oil with lemon juice before going to bed). I tried it last night and my pains aren't as severe today.

Ugh. I love the results of this diet and really hope I can continue with it... Only time will tell :)

Please tell us more about this cleanse... how much olive oil, how much lemon juice?.. thanks!!!..

hugs :hug:

SaraBean
02-12-2012, 02:41 PM
Please tell us more about this cleanse... how much olive oil, how much lemon juice?.. thanks!!!..

hugs :hug:

I found a bunch of cleanses online, but most of them involved drinking absurd amounts of apple juice which we can't do on this diet. Then I found this website:

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/sludge-in-gall-bladder-symptoms.html

It mentioned a quick way to help alleviate the symptoms of gallbladder sludge. Its states:

"to alleviate the pain you can take a lemon, squeeze out its juice and add 3 tablespoons of olive oil into it. Have it before going to bed and after waking up. You could also take one teaspoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass of apple juice to get relief from the pain... Moreover, eat a high-fiber diet and drink lots of water"

I drank a shot of olive oil and then a shot of lemon juice before I went to sleep and woke up the following morning in far less pain :)

Aunt Sheshie
02-12-2012, 03:17 PM
That doesn't sound too bad... I don't really have any pain, just a yucky feeling sometimes... in the past, I always "treated" tummy troubles with more food, thinking a full stomach would take away the discomfort (btw, it usually didn't).. that feeling still makes me think I want to eat more, just a bad habit I haven't been able to shake... so, thanks, SaraBean I'll try the cleanse...

hugs :hug: