Weight Loss Support - goal weight that is still outside healthy weight range?




gonnabfitmom
01-24-2012, 01:19 PM
My goal weight is 160. And at 5''4 my doctor said my healthy weight is about 137. Well I just don't want to be that thin. I weigh 280 now (6 lbs down, woot!) and I just can't fathom being any less than 160. It's certainly possible that I can get to 160, decide I'm still not happy and go down a bit more. But is it 'healthy' to maintain a weight outside the healthy range with no intention of losing?


ELBS717
01-24-2012, 01:24 PM
I think it's best to set a practical goal, and when you reach it, see what you decide then. Losing over 100 pounds will do an enormous amount of good for you to begin with!

cherrypie
01-24-2012, 01:46 PM
you are going to be way healthier at 160 then you are now. If you can easily maintain that for the rest of your life I think it's better than pushing yourself to an unmaintainable weight and risk getting too comfortable to continue.

but really, when you are losing 100 pounds I think it's pretty tough to even set a hard goal weight. It's hard to fathom what that smaller weight is going to look and feel like.


bargoo
01-24-2012, 01:51 PM
I think your doctor is going by BMI which at 160 would still be high.
I don't think anybody would think of 137 as thin. Why not make a compromise with your doctor at 145 ?

runningfromfat
01-24-2012, 01:54 PM
you are going to be way healthier at 160 then you are now. If you can easily maintain that for the rest of your life I think it's better than pushing yourself to an unmaintainable weight and risk getting too comfortable to continue.

but really, when you are losing 100 pounds I think it's pretty tough to even set a hard goal weight. It's hard to fathom what that smaller weight is going to look and feel like.

Yeah, that!

As someone who has been this weight previously in my life (even though it was 8+ years ago!), I really couldn't wrap my head around what I'd look like at this point. Now I'm here and still want to go further. BUT if I were to stop today and maintain I'd be WAY healthier than I was at my highest weight.

I think it's pretty normal for 3FCers to pick a goal weight and change it once they get closer to their goal (either up or down). I've always had a weight range in mind (140-155)lbs, we'll see what happens once I get there. ;)

Good luck on your journey!!! I also highly suggest having some mini-goals a long the way to look forward to!

LuciMarie
01-24-2012, 02:07 PM
It's scary when you first see where you 'should be' especially when you know of others around the same height at a weight you'd consider to be healthy.
Starting off on this I was 235 at 5'6". I have friends around my height at 160 who carry it really well so I figured that's be a good goal.
I look online, look at statistics, and find that a good weight to be at is 143. Random number, right? Who ends in a 3? Anyway I agree with ELBS717. Set your goal and go from there. You may find the way you carry your weight would work better if you were down a little bit more.
I think it's just a step at a time and see how your frame carries the rest of your weight.

ennay
01-24-2012, 02:10 PM
My goal weight is 160. And at 5''4 my doctor said my healthy weight is about 137. Well I just don't want to be that thin. I weigh 280 now (6 lbs down, woot!) and I just can't fathom being any less than 160. It's certainly possible that I can get to 160, decide I'm still not happy and go down a bit more. But is it 'healthy' to maintain a weight outside the healthy range with no intention of losing?

Seriously, this is a question to ask yourself at 160, not now. Of course you cant fathom it now. At 160 you may decide great, at 160 you might change your mind, you CANT decide now.

And for 5'4" the top of the healthy range is 145 so your doc is recommending something closer to the middle of the healthy range.

That being said. 200 is healthier than 260. 180 is healthier than 200. Whereever you decide is best for you is better than where you are now.


I don't think anybody would think of 137 as thin.

I would. And I've weighed under that

thistoo
01-24-2012, 02:29 PM
I'm only 5'0" and when I got down to 150 and got stuck, I felt like a failure because I didn't reach the magic '120' number that was my goal. I was still 'overweight' at 150 for sure, but I was a lot healthier and happier than I am at 218. It's easy to fall into an 'all or nothing' mindset when you're losing, and that's what happened to me. I regret viewing 150 as a failure more than I can tell you. Currently it's my new goal, and once I get back there I'll reevaluate.

Get down to whatever you get down to, then see how you feel. No sense setting yourself up for failure, regardless of what your doctor says.

lin43
01-24-2012, 02:38 PM
Well, I love your attitude. I don't think that one size fits all (pardon the pun!) in terms of our weight goals. If you are happy when you get to 160, then focus on maintaining that. BMI aside, people are shaped differently, have different bone densities, and differently lifestyles. Why must everyone who is 5 ft 4 have to weigh 135-145? I simply do not believe that someone who is 5 ft 4 and 160 would automatically be considered "unhealthy," especially if he or she is fit. (In fact, I read an article a few months back about how people who are in the "overweight" range can still be healthy if they lead a healthy lifestyle---eating whole foods, exercising, etc.).

We all must do a sort of cost-benefit analysis with our weight goals and our life goals. A lower weight is harder to maintain, and some people are not willing to do all that it takes to maintain that lower weight. It isn't worth it to them. And there's nothing wrong with that. I also chose a higher goal weight but I kept losing while I was experimenting w/ maintenance, so I'm 8-10 lbs. below my original goal weight. The temptation is there to really go **lls out to maintain that lower goal weight, but I'm trying to look at the big picture, so I've decided to just pick a calorie allotment I can live with and see where that takes me. So far, I'm still within a couple of pounds of my lowest weight.

Do what works for YOU, not for others.

sontaikle
01-24-2012, 02:43 PM
I know how hard it is to fathom yourself at a lower weight. I never thought I could get down to 120 and didn't realize I was here until I found out my scale was weighing me in wrong!

I remember originally setting my goal at 160...well I wasn't happy when I was there. I moved it to 140. Wasn't happy there either. I'm quite happy now though.

My point is, you can always go lower if you feel like you need to :) Keep 160 as your goal and see what happens when you get there. If you're satisfied, maintain there. If you're not then go lower.

NEMom
01-24-2012, 02:49 PM
I am having this exact same issue. When I set my goal at 160 (overweight by BMI starndards) I thought there was no way I could go lower and be happy maintaining it. When I met my initial goal, I thought why not go 10 lbs lower (still 3lbs overweight by BMI standards), however, I am really struggling to get the last 10lbs off and lately my attitude has showed it so I decided to switch my focus from losing the last 10lbs to continuing with healthy eating, exercise and appreciating how far I have come. You will be amazed at how good you feel when you meet your initial goal and speaking from my own experience, pushing yourself further may affect you in a negative way.
Best of luck to you.

InsideMe
01-24-2012, 02:58 PM
Well I have learned we can always change our goal :) So set your goal at 160 and then re-evaluate once you hit it.

I did this, cause at first I was going by BMI to a goal weight of 130lbs. For me my body composition at 188lbs (even at 192lbs) I'm in a size 10...so I picked a goal weight of 150lbs, seeing where I am and then making a decision. Do what you feel comfortable with, nothing is set in stone!

Eliana
01-24-2012, 03:46 PM
Hi! :wave: I'm 5'4", 164. Personally, I'm quite happy here from a health standpoint, but am dieting further for vanity purposes. But it completely depends on what YOUR body does. All along this journey I seem to carry my weight well. At this weight, I fit in an 8/10. I got down to 145 and was a 4/6. I had trouble maintaining that. I felt like 4/6 was not just healthy, but THIN, and it was at the very top of my "healthy weight range".

Others still think 145 is too much, and honestly, are probably right. It depends on the individual and what your body does with the weight. I swear I pack on muscle really well.

My biggest regret in this journey has been that I randomly chose 135 from the start. When I didn't make it, I felt like I had failed. Yes, I got down to a size 4/6, and had failed???? What??? So now my goal is 145, and if I get there, I'm going to celebrate this time! Therefore, I suggest getting to 160, celebrating, and taking it from there.

kirsteng
01-24-2012, 03:57 PM
I agree with most of the others - set your goal weight to 160, and reevaluate when you're closer to it.

I have done something similar - at almost 6'1", my healthy high end is 188, I believe. I've set my goal to 195, because I know that I'll be healthy at that weight, and I've only been within 20 pounds of that in my adult life once. And at that weight, my doctor thought I should stop losing there, that I looked great (at 215).

So when I get to 195, I'll see. Heck if I get to 205 and am healthy in every way, active, and see no upside to continuing, I might even stop there!

GL and keep going! :hug:

aliasihaya
01-24-2012, 04:26 PM
I agree with the others. Set your goal to something reasonable and not overwhelming. Then when you get to it decide whether or not you should go lower. I personally would also base that decision off of a physical and blood work, but I'm going through health issues so I need to do that. I've set mine at 180 for now even though I really need to be down around 130. But 130 just seems so far away. So it's 180 for now.

Chubbykins
01-24-2012, 04:37 PM
From what I know being in the overweight category (bmi 25-30) has little to none proven medical complications.
The only thing a study showed is that people 20-22 bmi lived on average longer lives. That can be due to many factors though.
A health benefit that is proven is when you have busted joints it is good to be lighter and also PCOS symptoms might be less severe.
In the end your goal should be to get out of obese and healthwise you'll have won the war. Whatever your take on personal beauty is you can decide later.

baker23
01-24-2012, 04:47 PM
Your doctor is prob going by bmi which is so completely individual its not even funny. I'm still in the overweight catorgory, until I hit 184, but you wouldn't know it looking at me. We all carry our weight differently, have different muscle mass, exc....There are many factors that play into how we look when we get to our goal.

I would continue with your goal of 160 and re-evaulate from there. I find if I set goals that are to high and I might not meet, I get discouraged. Bottom line is you know your body better then anyone else. Good luck :) and congrats on 6 pounds down *Dances*

berryblondeboys
01-24-2012, 04:59 PM
Just echoing what everyone else has said. It is much better to gt to 200, 180' or 160 than stay where you are now. Your doctor knows that and if he/she gives you a hard time about the last few pounds as you get closer, eithere don't listen or say, "listen, I just can't g there or want to get ther and I'm quite happy I'm here than where I was.". And re-evaluate as you go.

My initial goal was 175. I got there and quickly and decided I wanted to do a bit more, so I set it to 160. When I get there, I'll just see how it goes. If I go lower, great, if I don't, great. As long as I'm exercising and eating right, that weight should be morer than ok and way better than where I was.

carter
01-24-2012, 05:04 PM
At this point, whether your goal weight is 160 or 147 or something else isn't going to affect your plan one iota. It doesn't change the choices you make today. So don't worry about it.

I've gotten very close to a healthy weight, and as you can see from my stats over there
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I still don't know what my "goal weight" is. I'll know when I get there ... actually I'll probably know some time after I get there. When I am happy with where I am, or when losing more weight is going to take more effort than I am willing or able to put into it, then I'll know what my goal weight is.

rachaelm
01-24-2012, 05:07 PM
ITA with so many others here. Your goal weight is not carved is stone. You're succeeding, that's all that matters right now.

My goal weight was the highest weight in the 'normal' category for my height. Maybe I'll get there & decide it's not enough. Maybe I will decide I'm 'skinny enough' at 175. I don't know. But, I'm working towards that number, that's all I know to do.

Sunshine73
01-24-2012, 05:09 PM
I agree that it makes sense to reach your initial goal and then reevaluate when you're there. I'm 5'3" and my initial goal weight is 150lbs - still outside what the BMI standards define as "healthy" or "normal" but it seems a reasonable number to shoot for. When I get there I can decide how comfortable I am with how I feel and/or look and make further goals from there.

Regardless of where we end up we'll be healthier than where we started!

saltatoria
01-24-2012, 07:58 PM
Also, keep in mind a set of DDs will add ten pounds to your body weight. I've seen friends struggle with losing those last few pounds without realizing a good amount of it is in their chest.

If you're endowed, you could sort of mentally subtract that. It's not like you can control their size past a certain point. (Meaning, some women go up a few cup sizes when heavy, but then once you lose the weight, you go back to what your body intended for you. It's not like you can make your body go from a C to a B if you're already at your ideal weight.)

sontaikle
01-24-2012, 09:23 PM
Also, keep in mind a set of DDs will add ten pounds to your body weight. I've seen friends struggle with losing those last few pounds without realizing a good amount of it is in their chest.

If you're endowed, you could sort of mentally subtract that. It's not like you can control their size past a certain point. (Meaning, some women go up a few cup sizes when heavy, but then once you lose the weight, you go back to what your body intended for you. It's not like you can make your body go from a C to a B if you're already at your ideal weight.)

A properly-sized DD chest isn't all that big once you get down in the lower weights. I'm a 32DD moving into a 30DDD/G (in US sizes anyway, 30E/F in UK sizes) and my breasts are not large. It's a myth that DD is big. Most women with large breasts are stuffing themselves in DD bras when they should be wearing smaller band sizes and larger cup sizes.

My cup size keeps going up due to my weight loss. I started out as a 40D

Eliana
01-24-2012, 09:41 PM
A properly-sized DD chest isn't all that big once you get down in the lower weights. I'm a 32DD moving into a 30DDD/G (in US sizes anyway, 30E/F in UK sizes) and my breasts are not large. It's a myth that DD is big. Most women with large breasts are stuffing themselves in DD bras when they should be wearing smaller band sizes and larger cup sizes.

My cup size keeps going up due to my weight loss. I started out as a 40D

Yep...32G here, and not huge. :o It's all about the band/cup ratio, which most women do not understand because I'm convinced most women measuring bras don't understand! :dizzy: Stores do not sell 32's and I am not that small. :no:

runningfromfat
01-24-2012, 09:44 PM
A properly-sized DD chest isn't all that big once you get down in the lower weights. I'm a 32DD moving into a 30DDD/G (in US sizes anyway, 30E/F in UK sizes) and my breasts are not large. It's a myth that DD is big. Most women with large breasts are stuffing themselves in DD bras when they should be wearing smaller band sizes and larger cup sizes.

My cup size keeps going up due to my weight loss. I started out as a 40D

Yes to this! I actually made a post (http://braslessinbrasil.blogspot.com/2011/10/ds-just-arent-that-big.html) about this very topic awhile back...

You have to remember too that your cup size depends on your band size the volume of a 36C is large than a 34C so you can definitely go up in your cup size while going down in your band size (something I did for awhile!).

To some extent I agree that you can't control size. I currently wear a 30H/28HH and the chance of me ever getting into a 28A is probably about as close to zero as you can get (even with surgery they can only bring you down so much) ;) . However, I have gone down quite a bit since my large.... actually, the large bra I had was a 40K so, yeah, that's quite a bit difference! I've still been losing in my chest at this point so I'm not sure where I'll end up. :dizzy:

runningfromfat
01-24-2012, 09:47 PM
Yep...32G here, and not huge. :o It's all about the band/cup ratio, which most women do not understand because I'm convinced most women measuring bras don't understand! :dizzy: Stores do not sell 32's and I am not that small. :no:

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This irritates me to no end! I'm still 11lbs overweight and am entering the 28 band range (currently measure 29" for my underbust). I'm not that small (my waist still measures at 31")! I'm just hoping my underbust stops shrinking at 28"!!! :crossed:

berryblondeboys
01-24-2012, 11:01 PM
My cup size hasn't changed at all. I was a 40 F/G. Now I'm a 34F and while I'm chesty, I don't look like I'm going to tip over or look like a freak. I look quite proportional as I'm quit largely built. When I was breastfeeding I was a 40G/H.

But for sports bras, I can fit a 36DD if I don't want to special order a bra.

sontaikle
01-25-2012, 09:03 AM
Yep...32G here, and not huge. :o It's all about the band/cup ratio, which most women do not understand because I'm convinced most women measuring bras don't understand! :dizzy: Stores do not sell 32's and I am not that small. :no:

I know, it's ridiculous right? And when you DO find a 32 band, it's only in A or B cups! Argh!

I actually found some 30 band bras at Target the other day, but they were all 30As... :/

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This irritates me to no end! I'm still 11lbs overweight and am entering the 28 band range (currently measure 29" for my underbust). I'm not that small (my waist still measures at 31")! I'm just hoping my underbust stops shrinking at 28"!!! :crossed:

I have a larger ribcage and when I'm getting down into what's considered "small" band sizes I'm really starting to wonder about all of these things.

I kind of went !@$# when I realized my underbust started measuring around 31in (and my bust is still 37") because my 32s are now too loose for my tastes (I like my bands really really TIGHT or they bug me). it's ridiculous how bras in 32 bands and and below and above DD are so rare or expensive. If I was losing weight last year when I was in graduate school there would simply be no way I could afford to buy myself bras in my size.

I can't really buy any this month, but I think next month I can probably get a new bra or two. If I knew this was going to happen I would have held out on buying a few luxuries :joker:

Magalo
01-31-2012, 01:55 PM
It is sure hard to believe your weight could be so "low" because your idea of what "low" and "healthy" is screwed once you've been so heavy. If you are a 5"0 woman and have been 350lbs all your life, it is sure hard to believe that a healthy range for you is 100-120lbs. But it is! If I was you, I would aim for a high-bmi range (like 23-24 BMI) and see once there. I don't think it's healthy to aim for a goal weight still in the overweight category and plan to stay there without reevaluating at all.

Adalyn
01-31-2012, 02:06 PM
I'm also 5'4" and my goal weight is 145. I would like to be 130 if at all possible, because that was a weight I was able to maintain years ago.. but I'm considering it a "bonus" if I'm able to do that.

145 or 150 would be fine for me, I'd be happy down around that point. I have a large frame and I notice that I am still not "thin" at lower weights compared to other people of the same height and weight, so I think "healthy weight" really depends on a lot more things than just height.

ennay
01-31-2012, 02:15 PM
It is sure hard to believe your weight could be so "low" because your idea of what "low" and "healthy" is screwed once you've been so heavy. If you are a 5"0 woman and have been 350lbs all your life, it is sure hard to believe that a healthy range for you is 100-120lbs. But it is! If I was you, I would aim for a high-bmi range (like 23-24 BMI) and see once there. I don't think it's healthy to aim for a goal weight still in the overweight category and plan to stay there without reevaluating at all.

Disagree. And of course she will reevaluate, but what is unhealthy is deciding that an arbitrary number is NECESSARY.

I say this from watching my mom. She got down to 150 and was able to maintain it EASILY. But doctor and Weight Watchers both told her she HAD to be below 140 to be healthy. The amount of effort it took her to even get to 148 sent her on a tailspin back up to 200 within months.

I've had similar struggles. I can maintain about 5-10 lbs above healthy BMI quite easily but the struggle to get into normal weight often results in me waking up 6 months later 30 lbs heavier again.

NOBODY who succeeds at dropping from morbidly obese to overweight needs to be labeled a failure for not hitting a BMI of 24.9, much less the BMI of 23.5 the doctor prescribed. NOBODY who succeeds at that needs to feel that it is a waste of effort. The difference between morbidly obese and obese in terms of health is HUGE. The difference between obese and overweight is significant. The difference between overweight and normal weight? Moderate to insignificant depending on your other risk factors.

Eliana
01-31-2012, 03:33 PM
It is sure hard to believe your weight could be so "low" because your idea of what "low" and "healthy" is screwed once you've been so heavy. If you are a 5"0 woman and have been 350lbs all your life, it is sure hard to believe that a healthy range for you is 100-120lbs. But it is! If I was you, I would aim for a high-bmi range (like 23-24 BMI) and see once there. I don't think it's healthy to aim for a goal weight still in the overweight category and plan to stay there without reevaluating at all.

I have to agree with Ennay on this. Another factor to consider is that obese and morbidly obese individuals often start out with significant muscle, particularly in the legs, because we are lifting ourselves all the time for daily activities. If we're lucky enough to keep it (work hard enough to keep it), we can end up being heavier than most, but looking smaller.

It's so important to keep the weight off once it's lost and to deem each pound off as a pound worth keeping off. This mental part of the weight loss journey can't be down played.