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JudgeDread
01-23-2012, 05:27 PM
I'm starting this thread to vent my anger with fast food. It is baffels me how many calories they can throw into a meal!

Today, I dropped my coworker off at Wienerschnizel..I had already had a 6 ounce piece of chicken breast and Fiber One brownie.

Anyways as much as I LOVE chili dogs I had to, out of curiosity look for the calories in the Chili Cheese Dog + Chili Cheese Burger + Chili Cheese fries for 3.99!

Low and behold a grand total of..............340+350+540=1230 calories! DAMN!!!!!!!!!!

Really the burger is not bad compared to......... Sonic Super Sonic Bacon Double Cheeseburger with Mayo with Ched 'R' Peppers
1,610 calories109 g fat (42 g saturated, 4.5 g trans)
2,740 mg sodium

(A BIG MAC is 704! MCNASTY!)

I hate having to look up calories at every resturant, but damn if I didn't I would have gained a lot more weight NO DOUBT!

My favorite website to go to is CalorieKing.com to check. If they don't have a food or resturant just keep Googling.


Anybody else have any McNasty tales? :devil:


aliasihaya
01-23-2012, 05:41 PM
Ugh, it is so frustrating. And they pack them full of salt and fat and sugar just to make it more appealing to the masses. Me being one of the masses. :-) What's sad is there have been times when I've known how many calories were in fast food and I've still eaten it. You should read the End of Overeating. He talks about why we're so addicted. At the moment I'm just trying to avoid all of them until I can get my self control working. Because the calorie count is sometimes not enough of a deterrant for me.

Thanks for the info! I hate looking up the calories but I really need to start getting into the habit. This has reminded me of why. :-)

danzingurl77
01-23-2012, 05:48 PM
This bothers me too! I know restauraunts are open to make money. The thing that really gets under my skin is that people crate such a demand for these types of food. The fact that not enough people in our society care enough about their health to make much of an impact on the food industry. Yes, there have been some changes in the fast food industry- but usually it's the food companies adding words like "wholesome" or "natural" (fries with natural sea salt..? Yeah- now fries are getting a stamp of health) and many people aren't informed enough to know what's good and what isn't.

It bothers me that a restauraunts can advertise a grilled cheese sandwich stuffed with mozzarella sticks- because they know that that's the kind of food that will draw the most people in. I am not perfect by any means- I am drawn in to pizza and candy, sometimes I give in, and that's ok. Having treats its part of a balanced lifestyle. But these foods are so cheap and accessible- it's easy to get sucked in more often than not...

Yeah, I know that we can all make our own food choices, and just because a food is served somewhere doesn't mean I have to eat it... But I wish we lived in a world where health took priority over comfort foods...

Ok that was totally soap-boxy and ranty... But I actually feel better ;-) thanks for starting this thread. I'm no longer dying for a cookie ;-)


GotothegymOKAY
01-23-2012, 05:49 PM
Hahahahh this title made me laugh. Lets all be rebellions against bad food. We're better than that!

sontaikle
01-23-2012, 06:04 PM
Restaurant food is no better. I don't understand why there's such a war against fast food when restaurants make meals with over 2,000 calories in them (I'm looking at you, Cheesecake Factory).

There are low-calorie options at both though, so even if you're dragged along with co-workers or friends you can stick to a low-calorie diet. My favorite thing to get when off with friends at Wendy's is chicken nuggets and fries :) I get the smallest sizes possible and it's very low calorie that way.

JudgeDread
01-23-2012, 06:07 PM
LOL I knew I wasn't the only angry bird here (insert drumset punchline followup)

Anyways the newest one I saw on TV that made me laugh was the Dominos STUFFED CHEESY BREAD! So it's cheesy bread, stuffed WITH cheese....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Cheese is good for you, in a small amount, maybe the size of 2 dice. I'm gonna go ahead and say there's about 40 dice on that lol!


As far as the deterrent thing it has worked really well for me. I will look up a few things I would like to eat and see which one has fewer calories. Not always a perfect ending but better than the worst choice.

I rarely eat fast food. I don't crave it, but it does smell good. I just have been weened off of it for such a long time that it is easier for me to say "NO". I know from watching SuperSize Me that you get addicted to the fat and sugars quick. So understandable. You just have to start somewhere and replace those foods with YUMMY healthy foods. There are plenty.

One of the ways I've adapted is by cooking healthy. By measuring 2 servings for myself and my BF.....and then adding it all up..etc. Pain in the *** don't get me wrong, but it is a necessarily evil since I can eat and eat and eat more.

After work is the worst. I can eat healthy all day long...Like today I ate 700 something during my 10 hours at work. Now I am hungry when I get home...just ate 2 eggs on 2 high fiber low cal toast....240.....STILL HUNGRY! bah! This is the danger time for me because I have a tendency to snack...and at times I am TOO lazy to measure out my servings. And sometimes beer is factored in too...eesh!

Anyways I got of on a tangent. Eating healthy is work. I have a coworker who can eat ANYTHING and not get fat....lucky SOB! Sigh.......

Yeah, but I highly recommend counting your calories if you are having trouble loosing. You may be eating more than you realize!

JudgeDread
01-23-2012, 06:09 PM
(I'm looking at you, Cheesecake Factory).


I heard they have great food...but yes I have seen some of the menu items on the WORST FOODS lists....scary!

sontaikle
01-23-2012, 06:12 PM
I heard they have great food...but yes I have seen some of the menu items on the WORST FOODS lists....scary!

Their food is AWESOME...but terrible for you (unless you watch the amount, but you'd literally need to eat a quarter of your whole meal to get a reasonable amount of calories and save the rest). Luckily they recently made a low-calorie menu with equally awesome food at a quarter of the calories of most of their "regular" meals. The bonus is that that particular menu is also cheaper.

I always get the Skinnylicious stuff when I go to Cheesecake. I just can't eat the regular stuff knowing the calorie counts now.

LiannaKole
01-23-2012, 07:05 PM
I don't care so much that the food is in generally horrendous for us (and yet at the same time tasty) so much as I care when they don't tell us what's in it. At least if I know, I can plan accordingly, you know?

Ideally there would be healthy options that were tasty and didn't cost two limbs to purchase, but it's just not out there.

But I do appreciate it when restaurants let us know how many calories etc. are in their foods. Of course, that can vary by up to something like 20% and they won't get in trouble for it.

MiZTaCCen
01-23-2012, 08:24 PM
Restaurant food is no better. I don't understand why there's such a war against fast food when restaurants make meals with over 2,000 calories in them (I'm looking at you, Cheesecake Factory).



I agree anywhere you go calories are ridiculous (Unless you make it at home). Regular restaurants aren't any better than fast food if not worst because they pile a whole bunch of food on top your plate to over stuff you. Fast food places at least rip you off when it comes to fries and toppings they put on their burgers. :dizzy:

JudgeDread
01-23-2012, 10:57 PM
I agree anywhere you go calories are ridiculous (Unless you make it at home). Regular restaurants aren't any better than fast food if not worst because they pile a whole bunch of food on top your plate to over stuff you. Fast food places at least rip you off when it comes to fries and toppings they put on their burgers. :dizzy:

True that, it's the world against US!

Sinoia
01-24-2012, 12:30 AM
It has been years, literally, since I ate fast food ... mostly because of the additives, salts, fats, sugars, but also because of the contamination.

I wish I could remember the name of the program, but I watched a TV documentary in which an undercover person worked for a well known fast food chain and filmed what happened with a secret camera. The truly horribly stuff that discontented kitchen workers did to, and put in, the food, was sufficient to convince me that I could never touch fast food again. It is a wonder people do not get horribly ill in droves.

The only place you can know what goes into your meals, or how hygienic the preparation is, is in your own kitchen. At least if you sneeze, or worse, you know whose germs are involved ... and that you washed the surfaces and your hands.

Amy8888
01-24-2012, 10:58 AM
The only place you can know what goes into your meals, or how hygienic the preparation is, is in your own kitchen. At least if you sneeze, or worse, you know whose germs are involved ... and that you washed the surfaces and your hands.

True, but unless you are growing all your own fruits and veggies and raising/killing/butchering your own meat, you never know. For example, I saw a TV show where people actually crawled on top of produce in the grocery store to get to the produce they wanted. There were other things the secret cameras caught people doing but I can't remember. It was gross. I think it certainly helps to cook your own food but you still never know, and it always helps to be extra cautious.

jeminijad
01-24-2012, 11:20 AM
Well, a restaurant can make food taste delicious to the modern American palate one of two ways.

You can source very fresh, very high quality ingredients, and prepare them with fresh herbs, spices and great skill. Your costs will be very high, and you'll need trained chefs.

Or you can use liberal amounts of butter, oils, sugars, and refined carbs, lots of prepared food shipped in from HQ, which is cheap and can be slapped together by anyone.

Not really any surprise why chain establishments go the way they do.

konfyoozed
01-24-2012, 12:47 PM
i will confess, mcdonalds has almost always been my go-to junk food. their $1 double cheese burger was morning-after-drinking cure for the ick. and a snack on the way home from work. $3 dollars got me a mcdouble, sweet tea, and a small fry. several hundred calories there i know. and i'd get it several times a week. sometimes 2 sandwiches if i was *really* hungry. and that was usually at 11pm! horrible. worse was when i was craving wendy's baconator! i'd get a meal. that sandwich alone has 970 calories, 63 grams of fat, and over 2000mg of sodium. add in the 500+ calories of fries and the 300 calorie frostie... 1800 calories in one meal. as much as it makes me shudder to think of it, i'd probably still get it again at some point (everything in moderation!). :-\ though last time i had fast food it made my stomach very unhappy.

i try to limit fast food eating to when it's a necessary evil (i.e. traveling) and try to get something moderately healthy. grilled chicken sandwiches are what i try to get, though the way everyone's trying to go to the 'artisan' buns, they are literally DRIPPING with butter. i've had to blot my sandwich before eating it!

Beach Patrol
01-24-2012, 01:22 PM
I used to eat a lot of fast food during college but I haven't been a fast food crazed fanatic in yearssssssss. Oh, on occasion, I do grab a burger & fries or some chicken nuggets, etc. But seriously - I eat fast food maybe about 6x a year. Yes, that's right - PER YEAR.

But I've found that food can be just as calorie laden and nutritionally deficit at home. Mainly when you "don't cook" - like me. I'm all about the quick/easy microwave meals, or the "throw-it-in-a-crock-pot" meal. While there are many more positives in eating like that as opposed to eating a ton of fast food, I can say that SUGAR & SODIUM are demons that hides in so many things!!! For instance, I just did a sodium tally on a meal we made over the weekend that we're still eating left-overs from.

Brown rice (healthy, right?)
Ground turkey
Kidney beans
Black beans
Corn
Okra
Tomatoes
throw on four teaspoons of salsa & mix it all up
AND YUM!!!

But each of those ingredients came from a can (except the rice... it was from a box ...and the salsa from a jar... :s: ) and the SODIUM CONTENT of one (small!!!) bowlful of our "healthy" meal was over 3000mg!!!!!!!!!!!! (choke, cough, sputter :faint: )

It would have been so much WAY healthier to have had FRESH ingredients. ~sigh~ :^:

JudgeDread
01-24-2012, 01:30 PM
I know sodium is crazy in foods. If you try the Progresso Soup diet you are going to go way way wayyy over you're sodium intake. If you have high blood pressure you are in trouble!

I love soup and if it wasn't so high in sodium I would eat it every day. I try to make my own soups, but bullion is so high in sodium itself! So...it makes it tough!

TV dinners and box dinners are crazy high in sodium too! I would probably eat some of them too with the low calories if they weren't a brick of salt...

UG limits!

MiZTaCCen
01-24-2012, 02:02 PM
TV dinners and box dinners are crazy high in sodium too! I would probably eat some of them too with the low calories if they weren't a brick of salt...

UG limits!

mmm I love TV Dinners...Usually right before I get paid I run out of money to spend on much "Healthier" food, so I end up buying higher sodium boxed foods which in the end ultimatly doesn't affect my weightloss as you would think as long as I keep my water intake high. (besides the calorie count tends to be a lot lower too because of it...)

JudgeDread
01-24-2012, 03:08 PM
mmm I love TV Dinners...Usually right before I get paid I run out of money to spend on much "Healthier" food, so I end up buying higher sodium boxed foods which in the end ultimatly doesn't affect my weightloss as you would think as long as I keep my water intake high. (besides the calorie count tends to be a lot lower too because of it...)

That's true too, I am just more weary because my brother and my father both have high blood pressure.:dizzy:

Sinoia
01-25-2012, 01:50 AM
I saw a TV show where people actually crawled on top of produce in the grocery store to get to the produce they wanted.

I laughed when I read this because I lived in Egypt for a while and the local grocery store (I lived in Suez) was a huge barn where lorries just drove in and dumped vegetables in huge conical piles.

You could see rats running all over the show and creepy crawlies .... well, creepy-crawling through the piles and half the produce was rotting in the middle of the stacks.

Anyway, if I wanted anything edible I would climb the stack. This was a dodgy thing because it can dislodge but that was the only way. If it was cabbages, onions, or melons or pumpkins, it was not so bad but if it was tomatoes, lettuces or other soft produce there were little kids that climbed for you for a couple of coins.

There was a powder sold by the local medical clinic that you put into the water in which you washed/soaked your vegetables.

I won't even go into what I occasionally found in my food in Egyptian cafes. Suffice to say the adage "What doesn't kill, strenghtens", is very true.

PS I read a white paper on chickens, that was leaked to a crowd sort of like wikileaks but pre-internet. I still eat chicken but I totally suppress what I learned!

astrophe
01-25-2012, 02:22 AM
I once had a blood sugar episode when I ordered grilled chicken at a restaurant. I thought I was making a relatively "safe" choice but then it turned out the sauce was loaded. Ugh. Now I just check before going and if I cannot check, I don't want to eat there.

Well, a restaurant can make food taste delicious to the modern American palate one of two ways.

You can source very fresh, very high quality ingredients, and prepare them with fresh herbs, spices and great skill. Your costs will be very high, and you'll need trained chefs.

Or you can use liberal amounts of butter, oils, sugars, and refined carbs, lots of prepared food shipped in from HQ, which is cheap and can be slapped together by anyone.


Yup. That's about it.

A.

JudgeDread
01-25-2012, 10:21 AM
Yeah some foods are so misleading! It all depends on the resturant. For example some burgers can have 350 calories, and the next has 800...

That goes for fries, and other things you "think" are the same, but are made with who knows what.

Pizza Unos is crazy, Uno Chicago Grill Chicago Classic Deep Dish Pizza


2,310 calories
162 g fat 123 g carbs
4,470 mg sodium

"Downing this "personal" pizza is equivalent to eating 18 slices of Domino's Crunchy Thin Crust cheese pizza." Mens Heath

JudgeDread
02-02-2012, 03:28 PM
Wow what a day...so dieting becomes much more challenging when you are out to eat with others.

So for work we all went to Dion's pizza for lunch. I tried going online to look up calories for their menu..nothing. I even asked them at the front and NOTHING!

So I didn't eat. My coworkers (all men) kept asking me if I was going to eat...then one of them got a big *** pizza and kept offering me a piece...literally it was sitting right in front of me!

BAH it sucked. I have only eaten 270 calories so far today. Although amazingly I am not that hungry...I think I have gotten used to the restricted calories. Still sucks, cause my mouth craves it more than my stomach hurts. BUT I am proud....proud and hungry haha.

BettyBooty
02-06-2012, 10:19 AM
OMG, this is what my husband calls (pardon my French) Fat Fu-- Food.

I keep a reserve list of calories in Potbelly sandwiches in my desk for the days I am just too lazy to pack a lunch, and have a few that are in the 400 - 500 range that I will do and not feel too badly about. And of course my fallback Subways and the veggie-based soups from Au Bon Pain. I know the sodium is sky high with those, but I compensate by drinking more water those days. And a couple of salads at Cosi are alright, just skip the bread (even if it is very tasty . . .).

JudgeDread
02-06-2012, 10:39 AM
LOL. Yeah resturants just are not calorie friendly. It makes it hard to diet and looking up all the foods online is a pain too!

Alki
02-07-2012, 07:17 PM
I try to NOT eat out...I read an article that said the calories listed on the menu were vastly incorrect...sometimes by as much as 800 calories. Because the individual restaurants may use more/less oil/dressings etc.

Now if we go out, I ask for NO mayo/sauce on my burgers ketchup/mustard is ok. Dressing on the side, and I eat less than half the meal, take the rest home for lunch for the next 2 days.

Thanks for the calorie website...I'll have to check it out. I live on the west coast, and found that most of the restaurants here are NOT in their guide. So frustrating when I have to guess and leave a big deficit for 'mis-calculations'!

ValRock
02-07-2012, 07:33 PM
Well, a restaurant can make food taste delicious to the modern American palate one of two ways.

You can source very fresh, very high quality ingredients, and prepare them with fresh herbs, spices and great skill. Your costs will be very high, and you'll need trained chefs.

Or you can use liberal amounts of butter, oils, sugars, and refined carbs, lots of prepared food shipped in from HQ, which is cheap and can be slapped together by anyone.

Not really any surprise why chain establishments go the way they do.

EXACTLY this!!! I avoid chain joints for this very reason! There are a few local places here that we LOVE. One of them is on an organic farm. Their food is to DIE for! It's good to support your local businesses and at the same time eat a lot healthier! You have to look, but these establishments exist!

JudgeDread
03-01-2012, 10:43 AM
I hate to be super nit picky on calories, but I think I am obsessed now......

I had a sushi roll last night, and I have NO clue what to even guess on it! It was cut into 8 little 2x1 parts...crab, shrimp, cream cheese, seaweed, avocado, and of course rice. It is not a big chain, so no nutrition facts on the web.

Does anybody know anything about sushi calories? What's good...how many calories a ballpark guess within 100 cals?

It was pretty damn good though!

Munchy
03-01-2012, 11:21 AM
I know sodium is crazy in foods. If you try the Progresso Soup diet you are going to go way way wayyy over you're sodium intake. If you have high blood pressure you are in trouble!

I love soup and if it wasn't so high in sodium I would eat it every day. I try to make my own soups, but bullion is so high in sodium itself! So...it makes it tough!

TV dinners and box dinners are crazy high in sodium too! I would probably eat some of them too with the low calories if they weren't a brick of salt...

UG limits!

Making your own stock is really easy and cost efficient, but if you don't want to, both Pacific Organic and Trader Joe's make low sodium broth that are 70mg sodium per cup. That is immensely lower than other "low-sodium" brands.

I eat homemade soup everyday, and if I'm not using homemade stock, it's one of these two brands.

Munchy
03-01-2012, 11:26 AM
I hate to be super nit picky on calories, but I think I am obsessed now......

I had a sushi roll last night, and I have NO clue what to even guess on it! It was cut into 8 little 2x1 parts...crab, shrimp, cream cheese, seaweed, avocado, and of course rice. It is not a big chain, so no nutrition facts on the web.

Does anybody know anything about sushi calories? What's good...how many calories a ballpark guess within 100 cals?

It was pretty damn good though!

I'd guess that roll is about 400-450 calories. The Philadelphia roll is about 350-400 ish (as the web states) and sometimes has avocado, but the rest of the ingredients are about right.

I love to get sashimi with crab, salmon, and avocado. It's worth it every time, but I do shy away from tempura, cream cheese, etc in my rolls.

lilsquirrel
03-01-2012, 11:47 AM
I work as a Crew Trainer in a McD's when I'm not at university, and theres recently been legislation in Wales that says that they have to display calorific content on the menu boards. Now as someone who calorie counts, none of this was a surprise to me because I'd already looked them up, but the reactions of several staff members and public was quite amsing to watch. People really have no idea what they put into their bodies! No wonder obesity is such a growing problem!

Also, I think price is probubly a big factor as well. In the USA, its $1 for a double cheeseburger? In the UK it's 1.29 ($2.06) and the portions you get are slightly smaller. Thats probubly the only reason the UK is behind the US on obesity, but its still well on it's way :(

JudgeDread
03-01-2012, 05:18 PM
Yeah I have made a lot of soups, but I can never find low sodium bullion in teh stores! Even so I still end up adding salt to my soups as I am a salt fiend!

Thanks for the estimate, that's not bad!

As far as the US goes I wish they would mandate it! They mandated it on the food we buy in the stores, so why not resturants? I am sure it's being fought tooth and nail by big cooperations because some places have such HIGH calorie contents. But really we have an obese nation, and ignorance/lack of education about nutrition is the reason.

PinkLotus
03-01-2012, 05:34 PM
What bugs me is when restaurants (fast food places or regular restaurants) have foods that they market as "healthy" when they really aren't. They'll have salads that have more calories and fat than a Big Mac, or muffins that have 400+ calories in them, yet they are marketed as being "healthy" or "light". THAT is what drives me nuts!

JudgeDread
03-01-2012, 06:00 PM
What bugs me is when restaurants (fast food places or regular restaurants) have foods that they market as "healthy" when they really aren't. They'll have salads that have more calories and fat than a Big Mac, or muffins that have 400+ calories in them, yet they are marketed as being "healthy" or "light". THAT is what drives me nuts!

Yeah they have a way of marketing things...the BIG loophole....that they don't associate calories with healthy..only fats or mayyyyybe sugars. JERKS!

tessendicott
03-01-2012, 08:34 PM
When I started eating healthy I found I have NO cravings for fast food anymore. It's absolutely disgusting.

valalltogether
03-02-2012, 11:21 PM
went to chili's the other day because the bf and i were running around all day and absolutely famished. i got a simple dish of chicken tacos (i think they were called chicken club tacos), sans bacon.

i look up the calorie information later..for who knows why .. like 1600 calories! its CHICKEN, lettuce, tomato and tortillas. absurd!

JessD
03-04-2012, 11:31 AM
I believe wholeheartedly in the "Eat This, Not That" books. I'm constantly amazed at the calorie (and sodium, carb and fat) count in seemingly "safe" take out/restaurant food. However, I do get an occasional wicked craving for Jack in the Box's Jalapeno Poppers...but I don't allow that indulgence very often - just enough to not feel deprived all the time. (And I end up walking a little bit further and eating a little lighter the next couple of days afterwards.)

JudgeDread
03-04-2012, 12:51 PM
It's true, restaurants are so deceptive...you think something is healthy...and somehow they add 1000 calories to it! It amazes me how many calories they can pack into foods. I am sure my weekend is shot, I ate out twice....damn vacation food!

sontaikle
03-04-2012, 12:59 PM
It's true, restaurants are so deceptive...you think something is healthy...and somehow they add 1000 calories to it! It amazes me how many calories they can pack into foods. I am sure my weekend is shot, I ate out twice....damn vacation food!

It's got to be the oil or something. Hardly anything I make comes close to what the restaurants have in it!

Has anyone tried the skinnylicious menu at cheesecake? SO FREAKING GOOD. I don't necessarily need to eat the lower calorie meals, but the tuscan chicken is too damn good for me to pass up. 590 calories (or 585 according to myfitnesspal and some of the other sites) and it's a lot of food. I totally pigged out on that the other day and was still under my calories, even though I counted it at around 700 or so. There are other things on that menu that are even less and completely tasty.

Sometimes I like ordering the lower calorie meals just so I can eat the entire thing and not have to portion it out, haha.

Candeka
03-04-2012, 01:14 PM
I used to hate cooking. My husband and I were getting fast food 4+ times a week. I even had the time to cook, but never learned. It's the reason I put on 30 pounds in 2 years.

However, one day the little cooking fairy came to me or something because one morning I woke up WANTING TO LEARN TO COOK!... and I still have the cooking streak going on. It has been a year now since then and I have lost 20 pounds. I think another deterrent for me is since my body has adjusted to eating relatively well, I am afraid of what the grease will do to my stomach. But I will admit that a Big Mac calls to me at least twice a month. I've just learned to not answer the phone! Someone also suggested a home made "Big Mac Salad" that tastes amazing.

JudgeDread
03-04-2012, 07:21 PM
I've never had cheesecake factory....none close by! Sounds amazing though.....

As for the cooking fairy I have been lucky to have the itch to cook. Although I grew up on a farm and we always had to cook our food...so I learned. When I got out of the house I started experimenting..love it! I still do, but I have to be even more crafty designing low calorie meals that taste good!