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wuv2bloved
01-12-2012, 11:29 PM
Out of curiosity I would like to do a poll as to whom is on Strictly IP foods and whom is on Alternatives. The daily chat has been mostly of people on alternatives and the new threads have also been about alternatives. There is nothing wrong with this at all, I am just curious.


frazzledmom04
01-12-2012, 11:37 PM
Strictly IP

Bailey6
01-12-2012, 11:46 PM
Alternatives


patns
01-12-2012, 11:51 PM
I just want to add that if you go to the beginning of the daily thread, any day, there is a line that says information on the phases of IP.
If you click on that there is lots of info and recipes etc. One thread is about alternatives and it has a very helpful spreadsheet comparing the nutritional "readings" of alternative products to IP products.

Shemsham
01-13-2012, 12:01 AM
Strictly IP foods

Y Guy
01-13-2012, 02:13 AM
I was strictly P Phase I-II, however I'm now using alternatives in Phase IV.

Junetwin11
01-13-2012, 07:29 AM
I strictly used IP foods. I am starting phase 3 this weekend. I may go to alternatives in phase 4/maintanence. :)

NavyMommy
01-13-2012, 08:11 AM
I put alternative since that's what I'm using at the moment, but I'm in the process of trying to switch back to IP to some degree. There are just some products they have you can't replicate.

sekc14
01-13-2012, 09:14 AM
Strictly IP :dizzy:

SomedayBubblySomeday
01-13-2012, 09:17 AM
Strictly IP

galpal445
01-13-2012, 09:36 AM
I am strictly IP.

FinnSteven
01-13-2012, 09:38 AM
I used 100% IP products for the first 3 months and had amazing, fast success. When I had to start travelling a lot again (and getting stopped at the border checks for bringing in food products) I started using Atkins and a few other alt products easily available in grocery stores where I travelled... just to make sure I didnt gain. Our clinic also ran out of some of my "go-to" foods and took a few months to get them back in (customs), so I tried an alt ketosis based pre-packaged diet (Easy Diet) here (in addition to IP. For example, soup or drink) and that was disgusting and made me really appreciate the taste of IP!!!

I liked a lot of the Atkins bars quite a bit, but found that I absolutely lost way more weight when I was 100% on IP. I am sure a lot of alt foods will allow you to lose weight fine, but personally found that I do not lose as much weight or feel as satisfied (not hungry or craving) when I eat alternative.

So if anyone asks, I always say it is so worth only eating IP foods. My experience with alt was fine for maintaining, but not for consistent big successful weight loss.

abuck
01-13-2012, 09:40 AM
I use 90-95% of IP but drink an occasional EAS drink. About 1-2 a week. The EAS chocolate is too hard to pass up b/c it is delicious and about $1.50 compared to the $5 per RTD for IP. Also it's allowing me to kinda stock up on extra IP packets to add variety for later.

trimup2day
01-13-2012, 09:44 AM
Combination.

I purchased some products on idealtogo and also purchased from SAMs the EAS shakes and pure protein bars. This is my second week on the plan.

jennydoodle
01-13-2012, 09:58 AM
When I was in the weight loss phases, I was strictly IP.

Now that I am in maintenance, I use alternative products when I need to do a P1 day. I also still eat a Pure Protein bar (alternative bar) every day as a snack and I also drink an EAS shake (alternative shake) every day after my workout.

Since I am no longer going to my clinic every week and because of the price, it is much more convenient to use alternatives. Especially because they just supplement my diet now, and are not my WHOLE diet (by diet, I mean "eating plan").

Momto2cs
01-13-2012, 10:12 AM
I am about 75% ip with some low carb protein powder included, usually for breakfast. I use designer why which is sweetened with stevia to try to reduce the sucralose in this diet.

I mostly eat the soups and puddings.

Paint Lady
01-13-2012, 10:26 AM
I started out 100% IP and stayed that way for a long time. For those of you familiar with my issues, you may remember that my coach was one of the ones who didn't allow any restrictives (veggies or packets) until phase 2. Before I went to phase 2, I had the occasional Atkins or Pure Protein bar. I am now in Maintenance and have a pure protein bar as a snack most days. I also use a combination of IP and alt products for phase 1 days, mainly because I stocked up on IP products and still have some. I'm not sure how I should vote in the poll though, so I didn't.

sandralosingweight
01-13-2012, 11:09 AM
I started 100% IP then found that I couldn't keep up with the cost, so I switched to alternatives after I lost 40+ pounds. Now I am using 100% alternatives only because it is much cheaper.

Mom3LoveBugs
01-13-2012, 11:39 AM
100% alternatives out of necessity... no clinic and no way to get IP products

leganegan
01-13-2012, 12:00 PM
I used IP products for 5 months, I hit maintenance last month and now am starting to buy Alternative products on Nashua. I have to budget better this year and save, save, save money. :)
IP products definitely taste better than the Proti-Diet products I have recently purchases though... on the plus side, with every order I have gotten 3 free products: coffee drink, soy nuts and a bar!

Survalia
01-13-2012, 12:31 PM
Alternatives (Proti-Diet) for me, and I am happy with them. I do not necessarily agree that IP tastes better, at least not in all cases. I like the Proti-Diet breakfasts and soups and bars just fine. The soups are not as thick, but I like to put blended veggies in anyway. I also like the EAS shakes and bars as well. My loss has been slower, but I also admit to an occasional mixed drink. I AM NOT RECOMMENDING THIS TO ANYONE. It is strictly my personal decision, and I am fully aware that this is most likely why I am not losing faster. However, it is the trade-off I have decided that I can live with. (Thank you for not blasting me :^:, just thought I would be perfectly honest.)

FoolishHeart
01-13-2012, 01:12 PM
If I had the money, I would totally do the whole clinic thing and buy IP products. I appreciate the work the creators of IP have done and the quality of the products. I believe the products are worth the money. And it would be nice to have a coach (if I got a good one that is). I just don't have the money.

So... I use EAS Shakes and Pure Protein bars for my alternatives. They are easy to find, at my Walmart and BJ's (Costco-like store). I'm very curious about the Proti-Diet stuff, but haven't ordered any yet because what I'm doing has been working. The one week I gained was when I went off program for a week after Christmas. Other than that, I've averaged 3 lb losses each week, so I'm very happy with it.

purple sky
01-13-2012, 01:16 PM
IP only. I did not know there were alternatives. I don't want to do all the thinking and calculations on my own. I knew this was pricey and a commitment so we cut down on spending before and during the holidays.

CarrieA
01-13-2012, 02:08 PM
My husband and I did only IP in the beginning. After a few months we started adding in alternatives (Lindora) due to the cost of IP. My coach understood about the cost and was okay with us doing this. I do about 75% Lindora and 25% IP. We were able to maintain over the summer and mostly over the holidays (I gained 8 lbs) using this method. I recommitted myself to IP again now I only use one Lindora product (cappacino) in the a.m. then the other two are IP. I will say that using mostly IP this time I don't feel as bloated but maybe it's because I don't have the little cheats that I was doing before.

NavyMommy
01-13-2012, 03:35 PM
Man all this talk makes me want to go back to 100% IP again. I loved meeting weekly with my coach and I did like some of the food (like the cap and jelly) better than anything I can find in the alternative realm.

Lorette
01-13-2012, 04:39 PM
Both the first and now the second time doing IP, my husband and I use "mostly" IP... other than 1 Atkins shake every morning with our coffee (closest I can get to my Starbucks addiction! LOL!) and we use "Oh Yeah" bars once or twice a week. So far it has worked for us and our budget.

maykatcooper
01-13-2012, 06:48 PM
I am mostly IP but do order from www.nashuanutrition.com their HealthSmart items which are so close in numbers to IP foods. They have a Starter kit with 5 boxes (7 per box). Each box is a Variety Pack. One VP of Hot Chocolates, one of Protein Bars, one of High Protein Crispy Bars, and of Shakes/Puddings, and one of Fruit Drinks. The grand total for that kit is $47.95. Also the site has free shipping over $99. Nashua is also a source for the Proti products. I do love saving money. My husband's favorite IP product is the Caramel Nut bar. The HealthSmart Caramel Crunch bar he thinks may even taste better than the IP. The calories are about the same though they are perhaps slightly smaller in size.

TFBeller
01-13-2012, 07:09 PM
Strictly IP

maykatcooper
01-13-2012, 08:06 PM
Strictly IP

I should have added that I was strictly IP till I reached my original goal. Smile.

sekc14
01-13-2012, 08:31 PM
Survalia, I'm not at all judging, I for one, CANNOT WAIT to get into maintenance so that I can do the wine tasting tours around my house. So, I completely understand....just wanted to let you know I've read that alcohol is hard on your liver while in ketosis. Of course, alcohol breaks down to sugar so every time you will more than likely go out of ketosis. I've also read that going in/out of ketosis is hard on your body.

Marcella
01-13-2012, 09:23 PM
Strictly IP and loving all the food.

hmt1372
01-13-2012, 09:56 PM
Strictly IP and have been very pleased with most of the food...not a fan of the soups, though (except the chicken).

gs463
01-13-2012, 09:58 PM
IP products

Beanie Mommy
01-13-2012, 10:11 PM
IP only. I tried doing alternatives on my own, but couldn't stick with it w/o my weekly meetings with my fabulous coach. I just can't imagine doing this without her support. Most of the IP food just tastes so much better than any alternatives I tried, too! My favorite are the dill pickle zippers - such a treat! Not a huge fan of the bars, though...

lindac36
01-13-2012, 10:33 PM
Just a beginner, but, strictly IP

maykatcooper
01-14-2012, 09:21 AM
I am mostly IP but do order from www.nashuanutrition.com their HealthSmart items which are so close in numbers to IP foods. They have a Starter kit with 5 boxes (7 per box). Each box is a Variety Pack. One VP of Hot Chocolates, one of Protein Bars, one of High Protein Crispy Bars, and of Shakes/Puddings, and one of Fruit Drinks. The grand total for that kit is $47.95. Also the site has free shipping over $99. Nashua is also a source for the Proti products. I do love saving money. My husband's favorite IP product is the Caramel Nut bar. The HealthSmart Caramel Crunch bar he thinks may even taste better than the IP. The calories are about the same though they are perhaps slightly smaller in size.

Yes, I'm updating my own news... The Starter Kit above does contain aspartame in some of the items. I checked last night and the only legal pudding/shake is New York Cheese Cake and most of the hot chocolates had aspartame. Sigh. I'll save them for "someday" if I don't throw them out first.

sweetv727
01-15-2012, 02:08 PM
I started 100% IP then found that I couldn't keep up with the cost, so I switched to alternatives after I lost 40+ pounds. Now I am using 100% alternatives only because it is much cheaper.

Which alternative products did you choose?

kbkwright
01-15-2012, 09:27 PM
Both IP and alternatives (Lindora) for me!

patns
01-15-2012, 10:16 PM
Which alternative products did you choose?

I use protidiet. I just want to point out that the products we get in Canada are less likely to have aspartame in them than the same product bought in the US.

Pat

wuv2bloved
01-17-2012, 05:53 PM
bump

New Englander
04-11-2012, 11:32 AM
I was 100% IP foods for phase 1 & 2 and now in P3 & maintenance I'm switching to EAS shakes and will try some pure protein bars. Both are sold right up the street at Target. The EAS chocolate shake is not as tasty (IMO) as IP's but I can get use to it...after all I got use to IP's chocolate drink and fell in love with it! :)

MrsChill
04-11-2012, 11:37 AM
Strictly IP with only drinks. I personally wasn't a fan of the soups and such and I am a HUGE creature of habit so I like my daily routine of drinks, salads and suppers.

ProteinGal
04-11-2012, 11:49 AM
So far, strictly IP products.

lindsayk86
04-11-2012, 11:57 AM
For 5 months I was strictly IP. Lost 60 pounds. But now due to money I have recently switched to using Alternatives. I am still losing and the taste doesn't bother me, I see no difference. This is a whole lot more convenient. I plan on using alternatives until the end of june to see where I am at. Take the summer off and then if money allows me I will hop back into IP Products for the remainder of my losses in the fall.

Kellym1021
04-11-2012, 12:06 PM
I am slowly making the switch from IP over to alternatives because of the cost. I have been using both for the past few weeks and I am down a total of 27 in just 9 weeks!! So I would say it is not affecting my weight loss!

The EAS Low Carb drinks are pretty good IMO, I have tried them all, but my favorites are Milk Chocolate Fudge and Strawberry. They really seem to fill me up! I also ordered a few products from Nashua Nutrition that have been decent so far!! I typically have two EAS Dinks a day and one BAR of some sort, either IP or from Nashua Nutrition. Somedays I have 3 EAS shakes. Still follow the rest of the IP protocol.

The Proti-Thin Chocolate Covered Soy balls seem to be the same as IP.
The Proti-Diet Maple Brown Sugar Oatmeal also is pretty good and with only 6carbs and 15protein, I believe it counts as a NON restricted??

I was looking for a replacement for the IP Choc Raspberry bar(my favorite) and I tried the Proti-Diet Raspberry Choc Square. Not quite the same but good!

If anyone knows of any alternatives for the IP Southwest Cheese puffs I would love to hear from you :)

Chloe222
04-11-2012, 12:41 PM
I do a combo of IP and alternative now. However, this is my second time on IP.

The first time I was on IP, I used 100% IP foods.

Then I moved and in my new location, we have clinic which is largely unmanned and doesn't store any product. This clinic is a doctor's office and the IP person is rarely there. I had some leftover IP food from my first time on the diet (and still using that - I did buy a lot) but much of that was restricted foods as my coach at my old home pushed the restricted goods because they taste better. She wasn't strict at all.

In my new location, I tried to be 100% IP but they lost my order the second week and it took days to get more soup (my staple).

Things did not get better. After losing my order, I looked at alternatives so I would have food. Started with a small order. I meanwhile tried to work with my IP clinic but they would get busy, would forget to return calls, so placed a larger order with nashuanutrition.

My rate of weight loss has been identical both times.

evepet
04-11-2012, 01:12 PM
I'm only 19 days in on this weight loss plan. I started with IP intending to stay 'strictly IP' for at least a month or so, but switched to alternative products after I'd completed my first week. So far so good. WI #2 was today... 3 lbs lost, for a total of 10 lbs lost.

Andie0606
04-11-2012, 02:29 PM
I have 1 EAS AdvantEDGE Carb Control shake per day for my snack but everything else is IP. I have a bar for breakfast with unsweetened hot tea and a soup for lunch with salad and water.

SaraBean
04-11-2012, 02:55 PM
I use both IP and alternatives.

I think the IP products are better quality though. I don't feel as hungry during the day.

Lettuce wrap
04-11-2012, 05:50 PM
Ip

LSJ100
04-11-2012, 08:28 PM
Strictly IP

Samba
04-11-2012, 08:34 PM
IP for me since the beginning.

My son is using alternatives and losing along with me.

JoesHotWife
04-11-2012, 09:02 PM
Strictly IP

idealme
04-11-2012, 09:48 PM
Both! I like to mix and match for variety :) Both work exactly the same for me....the only difference? The price obviously lol

wendyquilts
04-12-2012, 12:04 AM
I do a combination, but probably 3/4 alternatives and the rest IP. My husband is pretty strictly IP but has tried a few of my alternatives and may start using some of the Proti soups.

I love the white chocolate cinnamon bars from IP, so I'll continue to buy those until I'm done. Otherwise I'm perfectly happy with the EAS drinks and bars most of the time, along with an occasional Proti product for a little variety.

ETA: I have been losing really well, averaging over five pounds per week, so I'd say it's working well.

lkp888
04-12-2012, 02:03 AM
100% Ip

Alaskaipjourney
04-12-2012, 02:18 AM
I was strictly IP until I originally hit my goal. Once on maintenance I bought alternative products. I would say that IP definetly tastes better. Although some of the snacks on Nashua have identical nutritional facts.

whisperingshouts
04-12-2012, 02:58 AM
At the moment I am strictly alternatives, and have had great success with it... I started off this journey finishing up the remaining IP packets I had, but with the price increase and the hubby joining me this time around we just couldn't afford to go 100% IP..

Billster
04-12-2012, 03:44 AM
strictly IP

amyjo77
04-12-2012, 07:11 AM
I use mostly alternatives, but I do get some IP products through my mom. I can't live without chocolate soy puffs!!

Pookiepotpie2
04-12-2012, 07:44 AM
I use 90-95% IP the only thing I do outside of IP is shakes and bars I can find great alternatives for between $1 and $0.55 per serving opening my budget up to more exciting IP products (cheddar ridges yummy!!!!)

Nilouve
04-12-2012, 08:04 AM
Strictly IP although I do plan to look into alternatives but only once I hit maintenance. Only reason; like most of us, is cost.

Danif
04-12-2012, 08:13 AM
In the past the Atkins products have stalled my weight loss. I am doing strictly IP products. The first week I was drinking power aid zero and that screwed me up I only lost 2 pounds but then lost 8 pounds the second week. Just started 3rd week and hoping for 3 to 4 pounds.

usmcvet
04-12-2012, 08:37 AM
IP and Proto Thin.

lowrider04
04-12-2012, 08:45 AM
strickly IP but hubby is using alternatives and has lost the same as me!

reason00
04-23-2012, 12:06 PM
I'm still in Phase 1 of IP, lost 10 lbs. I'm going alternative after 6 weeks on IP because of the high cost. Now I can have more variety too. I must say, I've noticed that the Nashua products aren't equal in volume to IP. For example, I get 4 oz less of their egg omelett than I do with IP. I love IP's omelett and will miss it.

usmcvet
04-23-2012, 02:33 PM
I'm still in Phase 1 of IP, lost 10 lbs. I'm going alternative after 6 weeks on IP because of the high cost. Now I can have more variety too. I must say, I've noticed that the Nashua products aren't equal in volume to IP. For example, I get 4 oz less of their egg omelett than I do with IP. I love IP's omelett and will miss it.

The IP omelet is much bigger and still less calories than two Nashua omelets

prettyone
04-23-2012, 02:38 PM
Strictly IP

Mom2Four2011
04-23-2012, 08:33 PM
I use strictly IP products as well but will be using alternatives once I'm in maintenance also!!!

artflunky
04-23-2012, 10:10 PM
I use mostly alternatives, but I do get some IP products through my mom. I can't live without chocolate soy puffs!!

The chocolate soy puffs on Nashua are the EXACT same as IP!

Nibblet
04-23-2012, 11:09 PM
I've been strictly IP but just made an order for some Protidiet products. I checked the nutritional info using the charts you nice ladies provided. Due to costs, it's just hard to continue to buy IP if the alternatives are the same but half the price.

I'll see how it goes and if my weight loss becomes really slow, I'll probably switch back to just IP.