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Oh 2 be me
01-07-2012, 11:28 AM
I have about 50 lbs to lose. I am depressed, have fibro, back problems, my legs cramp when I walk, especially up hill. I'm not living life as I should be.
I've tried so many times to lose weight, joined fitness clubs, WW-about 5+ times, South Beach, low carbs/cut out white sugars. It takes me what seems like forever to lose 5 lbs.

I see so many on here who have lost 50, 100 or more. How do you do it? What is your motivation? If you can do it why can't I? I'm frustrated with myself. Do I don't have confidence in myself to do this? Do I feel like it cant' happen, I could never lose?

I need to get healthy. My muscles are like jello. I have no muscle tone. But I hurt when I exercise or walk, or even move sometimes because of the fibro. I've heard exercise makes it better. How do you get to that point?

Argh!!!! I need a good swift kick.
Can ya'll share with me how ya'll did this?


sacha
01-07-2012, 11:39 AM
Well, I think "drive" is important but it's also fair to say you have some pretty hard challenges that others may not have. Physical and mental roadblocks do make it more difficult (I can say losing the first time when normal was easier than when I struggled with postnatal depression).

I guess my only starting question is this - why are you stopping your prior plans? Is it because you didn't want to do it? Or did you find it wasn't working? Not fast enough? What was your reason for not continuing?

Icey21
01-07-2012, 12:15 PM
With me i finally woke up one day and said enough is enough. I have a son i need to be here for and i was becoming very depressed also. I have always known that working out makes me feel better. So that day i just got up off my butt and started working out, I have cut back everything i eat i stay under 1500 calories. The problem i always had was thinking if i mess up once then it messed everything up but that is just not true if you mess up forgive your self and get back at it. I also always thought it was all or nothing as far as my favorite food go but i know i can still have them just not as much as i was having before. The other thing that helped to make it click for me is Bob Harper's book "Are You Ready". Maybe you can read that book and it will help you also! I wish you the very best of luck, Just dont give up! Also as Bob Harper says "Fake it till you make it"


thinner
01-07-2012, 12:39 PM
Maybe look for some natural supplements to help with the fibro, cramps, etc. And start exercise small, like walking a very short distance every day. You will probably be able to graudally increase that distance. Look up some cookbooks to find some ways to make your favorite foods with fewer calories/more healthy. Example, pizza with different crusts and ingredients, still add one unhealthy thing like pepperoni to get the pizza taste. Then find something like grilled chicken breasts and add your selected steamed veggies and spices to your own tastes...

I don't know about you, buy my body really has to be jolted to lose weight. I think as I've exercised more and changed my food, my body has changed some. I just found out that I've lost weight over about six months, and I wasn't counting everything I ate or exercising every night. AND it's almost the same amount of weight that I lost over TWELVE months of constantly recording everything I put in my mouth, and doing gym machines average four nights a week. omg. So, if you can get on something consistent, your body may eventually be willing to give up some fat.

rainydays
01-07-2012, 12:57 PM
Those other diets may be too restrictive for you. I like calorie counting because I can eat whatever I want, within my calorie limit. I track my food and exercise with MyFitnessPal. If even walking is too painful for you, try swimming. Best wishes!

ringmaster
01-07-2012, 01:10 PM
how long is forever to lose 5 pounds? losing 1/2-1 pound or so a week is a reasonable amount...if you lost 5 pounds in 4-8 weeks then you were losing?

try to focus more on just healthy eating. you know the drill, fruit and vegetable based diet - cut out the processed foods, stop eating a few hours before bed. if you are up to it count calories and weigh and measure your foods - but just eating healthy overtime can help you lose weight or atleast maintain and maybe you'll feel better enough to start exercising. it's better to lose 5 pounds overtime than to gain, and you'll need to change your eating for a lifetime, always eat vegetables and there will never be any going back to white sugar foods so you might as well stick to those things now even if it is a slow process.

Chubbykins
01-07-2012, 01:11 PM
It is supposed to hurt before you form more muscles!

When you do excersize (any extra activity from what you do daily generally) then your muscles tear up and mend of 38 hours. At the point of the tear the muscle builds up again, but this time with more and fatter cells which have more mitochondria in them. (Mitochondria is the enrgy factory of the cell)

So of course it hurts. But the more you excersize (while giving yourself time and protein to heal) the less the same action will hurt. Then you can move on to harder stuff.

I bet you know most of this already. I just mean to say: Losing weight is painful physically too. There are ways to make it easier, like eating lots of veg to feel full and starting new hobbies to take your mind away from food etc, but it will be painful.

The good thing is: It can't possibly be as painful as being seriously overweight. If you just have 10-20 pounds to lose it is another issue alltogether.

Esofia
01-07-2012, 02:21 PM
Chubby - I appreciate that you're trying to help, but do you actually know what fibromyalgia is and how it works?

Oh 2 be me, first of all are you sure that it's fibro and not CFIDS? The main difference is that pain is worse with fibro and fatigue is worse with CFIDS, but what will be more important here is that while exercise tolerance is relatively low in fibro, it's even lower in CFIDS, where exercise is actively harmful. It is also fairly common to have both, and diagnosis of either is rather hit and msis, come to that; I've been diagnosed with CFIDS for 15 years and only recently did my GP say that she thinks I have have fibro as well. Either way, don't rely on exercise for weight loss. Consider that something separate, and I'd suggest consulting a good physiotherapist who has experience of working with fibro to see if you can get your muscles into better shape. Just rely on diet for weight loss. I have severe CFIDS and thus can't exercise at all, and I've lost a quarter of my body weight and am nearly at goal, plus there are loads of people on this forum with fibro, so take heart, it can be done.

Depression is a tough one to work with, although I understand that the depression/mental health subforum here is very supportive.

Could you tell us more about what's happened when you've tried dieting in the past? What worked out well, what went wrong, what made you feel better, what did you find difficult? You can build on your experience to find something that fits you better this time.

luckymommy
01-07-2012, 02:35 PM
I know a lot about chronic pain because I have chronic daily migraines. They are of varying degree and I do believe a lot of people wouldn't bother working out in my situation. For me, working out is a life saver. It makes me feel more in control. At the same time, there are days when I simply can't workout. I've learned a lot from people here and have come to understand that it's not about the workouts. It's mostly about diet. Diet is for weight loss. Exercise is for fitness. Sure, it's easier to stick to a plan when you can incorporate exercise, but there are plenty of people here who have lost loads of weight simply by controlling and monitoring their food intake.

You absolutely CAN do this. I am a calorie counter and it's the only thing that works for me these days. I think it's also important to not compare yourself to others here....unless you find it inspirational. I have lost and gained a lot of weight throughout my life and I don't tend to post a lot when I'm off plan. A lot of people don't post when they're not feeling successful, so the ones you see here doing really great are likely a small percentage of the big picture.

Finally, it's all about commitment. Motivation comes and goes, but commitment is longer lasting. Commit yourself to your plan and don't give up, even if results to come in the time frame you expect. Love yourself and nourish your body with healthy foods.

JohnP
01-07-2012, 03:13 PM
It is supposed to hurt before you form more muscles!

I am not going to discuss the OP because I know nothing about her physical issues - but I will address this point for the benefit of anyone reading this.

Chubbykins you're repeating what many peopole think is accurate. I used to think the same thing myself. Turns out - completely inaccurate. Pain after a workout does not mean you had a good workout - and lack of pain does not mean you had a bad workout.

The best analogy I have heard with exercise is like a suntan. The best way to get a nice tan is not to go lay in the sun for 10 hours - you'll burn to a crisp. The best way is to slowly increase your time in the sun and you'll never burn and end up a nice brown color.

Similarly the best thing with exercise is to take it easy at the beginning and build up your intensity and duration over time. Small increases consistantly will keep your body adapting and keep you pain and injury free.

Again - I am talking about normal healthy people - not the OP.

duckyyellowfeet
01-07-2012, 03:27 PM
OP---think of it this way. If you lost 1/2 a pound a week, it might not seem like a lot every week. But add that up over the course of a year...26lbs. That IS a noticeable difference. Even if you only lost 1 lb a month, thats 12 fewer pounds than the year before...when, for most of us, its easy to put ON 12 lbs in a year. I know how frustrating slow weight loss can be but isn't any loss better than a gain?

Esofia
01-07-2012, 04:00 PM
John - it's really nice when people write like that, as we so often get people who know nothing about our medical conditions telling us what to do! Much appreciated.

OP - I forgot to mention that there's a "Dieting with Obstacles" forum which includes a lively thread for the fibromites, and also a thread on exercising with obstacles. Have you tried the "envelope theory" approach to pacing? It sounds like right now you need to find your base level, rather than constantly struggling to do more than you can. And don't let people guilt-trip you about the exercise limitations with fibro. You absolutely do not need a kick up the anywhere!

I find the Miracle Ball Method (daft name, but basic and affordable therapy) very useful for back pain. Look it up on Amazon, there are loads of reviews. About the only potential drawback is that if you have chemical sensitivities, some people find that the balls arrive reeking of plastic. I don't recall it happening for me, but then I've only got moderate chemical sensitivities by ME/CFIDS/fibro standards. It's a sort of gentle stretching, only you don't really have to do any movement, just lie on the balls, do deep breathing, and let that unknot your muscles for you.

Rapunzel
01-07-2012, 05:33 PM
Have you gotten your metabolism and insulin stuff all checked out? When I was in college I was serious about losing weight---I dieted and went to the gym 4-6 days a week, but I could just not lose the weight. I never have been able to.
Almost three months ago I found a doc who would listen to me--a bariatric doctor--and in *his* opinion, my thyroid and insulin were not up to snuff. I've been put on medication and for the first time in my life I've been able to lose a little weight. I hope it keeps up.
Despite the weight loss, I've been more depressed than ever because of the really tough diet I'm on and my attachment to food, along with other life things such as loneliness, boredum, and a general feeling of pointlessness/worthlessness etc.. I can't imagine have Fibro on top of being depressed! The depression is really what is holding me back from exercising.
I don't have much in the way of muscles either, but that's how everyone starts out. Just have to start small and work your way up. Don't overdo it--it's a slow process. Perhaps we can find a gentle exercise and muscle-building routine online that is for very novice beginners. And if you try doing stretches and some exercises to help your muscles grow, and you end up super sore the next day, give your muscles a rest. They need time to heal before you tear them again. Water and potassium help too. Potassium will certainly help your leg cramps, or it should.

Seashell84
01-07-2012, 07:26 PM
You can definitely lose weight!:cheer2:
As someone with fibro, here are my suggestions, based on personal experience:
1) Graded exercise is very good for fibro. You start very small (1-5 minutes per day) with low impact exercise (stationary bike, swimming, walking), and after an adjustment period (2 weeks or so), you slowly add to the number of minutes you exercise per day. Usually like 1-2 minutes per week, depending on what you can handle. If it ever feel that it is too much, go back to a level that is comfortable. Google graded exercise for more information. Also, ask your dr for a referral to a physical therapist, it may be covered by insurance.
2) Yoga/Pilates/Gentle stretching. I find stretching for a few minutes before and after exercise really helps with stiff/cramping muscles.
3) Epsom salt baths every night helps with exercise related soreness.
4) Massage from someone with experience in fibro.
5) Elimination diet. You may have food allergies/sensitivities that are aggravating symptoms (I have had 75% improvement from fibro/migraines from doing this) and making weight loss slow. Google it.
6) Do NOT compare yourself to others. Everyone looses at different rates for various reasons.
7) Record your weight and measurements now. Also, everyday write down how you feel on a scale of 1-10. Later when you are discouraged, you can look back and see how far you have come.
8) If weight loss is slow, only weigh in once a month (seeing a bigger loss all at once is more encouraging). Also check your measurements when you weigh in, oftentimes, the scale might not budge, but inches show a loss.
9) Your goal when you weigh in should be for it to be lower than last time, not a specific number. You are less likely to be disappointed if you do this.
10) Listen to your body. Greatest advice I ever received.
11) Get checked for nutritional deficiencies, low magnesium can cause cramps, low B vitamins can cause depression, etc.
12) Celebrate every pound lost! Even one pound is a success!:carrot:

As far as diet goes, just experiment until you find something that works for you.

Oh 2 be me
01-07-2012, 07:41 PM
THank you all for responding, for your encouragement, tips etc.
There are several issues here.
1-the pain in my legs is not after exercises, it is during. I have been told it is the 'toxins' causing it, etc, etc. I have found out that it may be from an anular tear in my lower back. I can climb a set of 4 steps and my legs be so cramped by the time I get to the top one, I have to stop a few seconds in order to go on. It's not just a crampy feeling, it's a heavy feeling, like I'm walking thru mud. So I have not idea if either of these reasons are really what it is or is it both or something else? I was given the Walk Away the Pounds dvds, I can't do them because of this.

CFIDS-it is possible. I was told for over a year that I was just depressed, finally my dr realized something else was going on, went to a rhuemy and she diagnosed me with fibro. I have some chemical sensitivities, the Hashimotos is auto-immune, there are times I can't for the life ofme think of the word I'm trying to say. THere are other things too. Low grade fever, low body temp.
My current dr told me a month ago that if I cont feeling lack of energy etc like I have been then we could try the Armor thyroid (the one made from pigs), then she said we'll recheck it in 6 mo. o-kay! Yes, I need to find another dr and plan to.

Why have I quit the times I've tried? I really don't know. Is it maybe I'm afraid of losing weight? Is it that I dont' want the attention that comes along with it? Do I get discouraged and just say forget it, I'll just stay fat?
I dont' know.
I do know that in order for me to see my 50's and enjoy them I'm going to have to do something. I do believe that if I could lose then I would possibly feel better. Maybe, maybe not.
I do know that sitting around doing nothing is not the way to go.
Any exercise is better than none.
I feel better when I lower my carb/sugar intake.

I look at these posts about people who have lost a good amt of weight and I think, were their legs like mine, with all the cellulite, with the fatty knees? And I wonder if I will ever be able to look for shoes i like instead of shoes in my size and actually find them?

I wasn't always overweight. when I got pregnant with my 21 yo son, I weighed 135, I'm 5'8". During the pregnancy, I quit smoking, gained almost 50 lbs, 3 ring sizes, 2 shoe sizes. 2 yrs after he was born I was diagnosed with underactive thyroid. I've not been the same since.
Well, I'm rambling.
Thank you all again for your posts.
Oh, and I never learned how to swim. ;)

Oh 2 be me
01-07-2012, 11:14 PM
Thanks,Martini.
I know I need to start with one thing at a time. I just allow myself to get so overwhelmed with the whole thing. I think this is one thing that causes me to give up.

Esofia
01-08-2012, 09:36 AM
OK, I'm now a lot more concerned about your medical condition than about your weight. The short answer is that you have gained weight because you have two, probably more, major medical conditions which are known to cause weight gain and where it is very difficult to lose weight. It is not something you should blame yourself about. They are very difficult conditions to live with, you have to put up with a lot of crap from society, the medical profession, and sadly most people get treated poorly by their family and friends as well. So whether or not you have clinical depression, and that's probably going to be a difficult question to answer and require a really good doctor (my GP could manage it; with yours, either she can't, or she might possibly be able to but you haven't got a good enough working relationship yet for her to know exactly what's going on, though the latter is less likely), you have more than enough going on in your life to make you feel confused, frustrated, frightened, and quite frankly miserable.

We'll get back to the weight later; let's move that down the priority list right now. You've found this forum, which is generally excellent (though you will have to get used to ignoring all the people who are chattering excitedly about exercise: you should NOT be exercising with the reactions you describe), and at some point you may find the book Thin for Life to be useful in working out some of the factors impeding your weight loss, aside from the fibro and thyroid and so forth of course.

Meanwhile, you need a good support network to help with the fibro/possible CFIDS. If you're on LiveJournal, there are two communities I can recommend, cfids_me and fibromyalgia. They're small, but they're friendly, sensible and helpful. I don't know that many big forums, and I'm not as well acquainted with the fibro side of things, but start with Phoenix Rising. It's a huge CFIDS forum, plenty of people with fibro too, and while it can be rather intimidating as some of the discussions are at a frighteningly well-researched stage (I've had CFIDS for fifteen years and I still don't know what most of those ones are about!), don't let that put you off. There is still plenty of space for more normal conversation, and people will be able to help you work out how to find a better doctor if need be, how to get the most out of your doctor, how to work out what's actually wrong, what approaches to try.

It sounds like the main thing right now is pacing, and if you're getting that level of symptoms from climbing four steps, that could mean you need quite a lot of bed rest. Your muscles are not hurting more through lack of use, they are hurting through overexertion, and that will just get worse until you rest up properly. Everyone I know with CFIDS or fibro has made themselves much worse through overdoing it, because we live in a culture which trivialises our illness and tells us to stop being lazy, and it's crucial not to fall into that trap. I'm sorry if I'm frightening you, but this is a very serious illness and it shouldn't be underestimated. The flip side is that it's much less unpleasant to deal with when you have proper support, and when you know more about how the illness works and how best to manage it for you.

Beach Patrol
01-08-2012, 11:13 AM
Oh-2-be-me:

I am not going to attempt to address your illnesses as I am not a doctor & have no personal experience from either fibro or CFIDS. I have, however, fought severe clinical depression three times in my life and I can tell you that it is hard to be at the bottom of the pit. I definitely speak from experience there!

But I will address the "diet" part of your post, as I do consider myself a "professional dieter" having yo-yo'd from 126 to 192 and everything in-between for the past 25 years. I have successfully lost a significant amount of weight (35-40+ lb) 7 times in my life. I am currently doing it for the 7th time, and once I reach my goal, maintenance will be my new goal.

While I believe exercise is extremely important, I understand that not everyone can do what other people do. But let's look at your diet. ("use diet for weight loss/exercise for fitness" - a personal belief of mine)

I have been on so many different diets in my life I honestly don't think I could count them all! Among them: South Beach, Metabolic Research, Grapefruit, SlimFast, Medifast... the list goes on & on. I lost weight on every single diet I've ever tried. But I never succeeded in keeping the weight off - it always came back, with a vengeance! -and brought several other pounds with it.

So what makes me think "this time" is different? Well, this time I'm not pushing myself to lose X amount of weight in X amount of time. I'm just losing as I lose. I'd love to be one of those women who lose 50 lb in 6 months! - but alas, that's not me. In fact, it has taken me 2 years to lose the 37 lb I have lost! And I'm averaging about a half lb per week. That's NORMAL. It's not super-speedy, but I've resigned myself to the fact that slow weight loss is more likely to equal permanent weight loss, and permanent weight loss is my goal.

Also, this time, I am using the basic math of weight loss - what we all know to be tried-n-true... CREATE A CALORIE DEFICIT & YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT. So I am not on any "diet" really - I am simply counting calories. I log my food intake by using FitDay (one of the many useful tools on the internet) and I don't deny myself any food that I love. I have learned from past experience that by denying myself foods I love, or trying to force myself to "like" a food I simply do not like, is just setting myself up for failure in the long run.

I don't like to cook, never have, never will. So I don't try to make some complicated meal (i.e. anything with more than 4 ingredients, LOL) or buy cookbooks I will never use. I like simple foods: baked chicken, grilled fish, frozen veggies in a bag that transfers easily from microwave to dinner table. I eat fruit & nuts for snacks. If I want a piece of birthday cake, I have one. If I want some Keebler Fudge Stripe Cookies, I enjoy them in the 100-calorie packets - it makes counting calories easy!

On occasion I have a margarita... those are worth about 700 calories! - so if I DO imbibe, then I simply cut my calories elsewhere. But mostly, I rather not drink my calories, and I enjoy Diet Mtn Dew & lots of water with lemon or grapefruit juice.

I don't deny myself special occasions or holidays. I don't count every single bite/meal during those special occasions, I simply monitor my fullness gauge. I have issues with binge-eating, so I have to really pay attention to that gauge, or I will overeat before I know it & feel like barfing for two days afterward!

What I'm getting at here is that I don't do a PERFECT DIET. I stay on-track pretty much 80% of the time, tho, and THAT is what results in my weight-loss. I don't kick myself for any slip-ups, and if I do over-eat or go over my allotted calorie limit for the day, I simply hop right back on that horse the very next meal/day.

I fondly say that "you don't lose weight one week at a time; you lose weight one meal at a time." And I note that weight naturally fluctuates. Sodium, sugar, etc can mean a 2-4 lb gain for me in a matter of 24 hours. I have purposely cut down on sodium & sugar for health reasons, but it is the CALORIC INTAKE that ultimately decides my weight loss.

IF I CAN DO THIS, THEN YES, YOU CAN DO THIS TOO. I am 48 years old, going thru menopause, and also fighting some other health issues. I do exercise, but not that much, and I don't use exercise for weight loss, I use it for fitness. I will say, as a former hi-end exerciser (I used to spend 1.5 hours at the gym daily!!!!) that I appreciate what swimming does for my body. It's easy on the joints. I need that! - and if you can't swim, then learn. Or, you can simply do "water aerobics" type exercises. Being in the water helps stabilize and balance you.

And the #1 tip for losing weight? NEVER.GIVE.UP. Because yes, you CAN do this! :hug:

Chubbykins
01-08-2012, 02:17 PM
I really didn't want to offend anyone with my supposed encouraging post :(

I know what fibromyalgia is and also that it is a diagnosis of exclusion, a dead end. I also suffer from hypothyroidism with depression and chronic fatigue as part of my symptoms, so I know what it is to have an incurable ailment that holds you back.

My doctor though told me this: "Whatever happens do not stop excersizing"
and for me at least she was totally right. I learned to live with sore muscles, constant desire to sleep and 1 hour cardio per day until I finally reached a point where my metabolism got high enough from the muscles I built that my symptoms have become less debilitating. I now can be 10 hours straight awake without wanting to sleep and I don't think about falling off the balcony as often.

Excersize is part of the cure.

About John saying it is not supposed to be painful, I hope that is true. For me it never was. Excersize pains me, but I have gained my life back thanks to it.

Again I really just want to encourage, not to offend. I am really deeply sorry if I failed.

Lyn2007
01-08-2012, 03:08 PM
You can do this! The most important thing is to never give up. Don't go for long periods NOT trying. Change plans as often as you need to. Exercise every day even if just a walk (do what you can without pain, but weight loss IS possible without exercise if you just can't right now). Drink lots of water. I think calorie counting or low carbing are great ways to lose. Just do not give up. Once you drop 10 or 15 pounds, THAT motivates you to keep going :)

Violet73
01-08-2012, 03:13 PM
I agree with the food elimination diet. I too have fibro. I also have RA. Cutting out gluten has changed my life. I still hurt, yes. I still have flares. I have noticed that I'm much much better though. You also may have insulin resistance where just cutting back on calories isn't working for you. Try doing low carb and eliminating gluten and dairy. You should lose weight and you may see some benefits in your fibro.

I have met goal yet. I'm far from it, because even going G-free I was still eating sugary foods. I'm doing LC now and I'm on my journey to weight loss. For your fibro, you really need to cut out inflammatory foods.

Like I said above, calorie counting isn't for everyone. Exercise is just part of weight loss, but your food choices play a huge role. Google Gary Taubes. He has a blog about how insulin makes us gain weight. good luck :)

KatMarie
01-08-2012, 03:23 PM
My dad has severe arthritis and can barely walk at times. He uses the gazelle to get exercise. Very easy on the joints.

Oh 2 be me
01-11-2012, 11:02 PM
thank you all for responding.
Right now I'm thoroughly disgusted with myself for how I've ben eating this week. And my stomach is paying the price. I'm sluggish, can't think, in a fog. Why do we do this to ourselves?
I MUST make some changes.
This month I'm going to concentrate on learning how to count calories, finding the best things for me to eat, working out a plan. Take one ( or two small) things at a time.
As I've read on here, 'fake it til you make it'.
Classes started back for me this week so I'm trying to get into that routine, the homework routine.

Tai
01-11-2012, 11:52 PM
It can feel very overwhelming when you first start! I'm a calorie counter as well and just focused on that and getting good eating habits down pat at first.

Good luck; you can do this!

natamars
01-12-2012, 01:38 PM
If you do have access to a pool, please think about trying to do some type of water class. They have them for people who can't swim - water walking, aerobics, etc. A few years ago I was diagnosed with costochondritis which is similar to fibromyalgia in that it is nerve pain and tough to treat, but it was localized in my chest/back/torso. One day I went to family swim with my son and as soon as I hit the water I had relief from the pain. A lot of people with arthritis also find the classes helpful as they're easy on the joints. Check with your doctor first, of course.

Rana
01-12-2012, 05:00 PM
I second the idea of doing something slowly, one thing at a time, so you don't get overwhelmed..... especially as you continue to sort out what's wrong with you, if it's fibro or the wrong thyroid meds or whatever.

I started off by mentally preparing myself for the change. I tracked calories, but I didn't restrict. I just counted. Sure, I would have days when I ate 3000 calories. No problem. No guilt. I felt great for at least tracking it.

Then, the next month, I would add or eliminate something else. I decided I wasn't ready to eliminate or restrict food, so I told myself that my goal would be to eat 5 servings of veggies and/or fruit per day.

I continued down this path because I wasn't ready to radically change my life yet. I could handle one change at a time, not a complete overhaul.

Eventually, I reached the point where I was ready mentally, psychologically, and physically to do the complete overhaul and I haven't looked back ever since.

I also lose weight slowly, I lose about 10 lbs per year. But I am 10 lbs lighter than last year and that's 20 lbs lighter than the year before and 30 lbs lighter than the year before THAT. I'd rather be weighing 162 than 192!!!!

And before then, my goal was not to gain. Not to GAIN. The goal was not to lose weight, the goal was NOT to gain. Kaplods has great posts on this too and if she jumps in, she can put it in her own words or you can search for her posts. I agree with what's she's put there, which sometimes the goal isn't about losing 20 lbs in 4 weeks, but rather being able to not gain anymore weight.

I hope you find a way to manage your health.

aliasihaya
01-14-2012, 09:02 AM
I've totally been where you are. Like as of a week ago. I couldn't figure out the motivation. I couldn't figure out why everyone else could lose and I couldn't. I'd always hear that if you weight a lot, like I do, then just starting to exercise will drop like 10 to 20 pounds immediately and then taper to 1-2 per week. That's a total myth. So if you're expecting a quick boost then understand that it won't be there. I've been working out with a trainer for two months, and I wasn't losing anything. But I wasn't going any other day or eating better. I don't fight the stuff that you do, but I do have hypothyroidism and diabetes. Things that make losing weight hard but also reasons to lose weight.

I definitely thought that losing weight was impossible for me. It just wasn't meant for me. Or that I just would never get motivated to take it seriously. Then about 2 weeks ago I just started to change. I started to see how I could change things. That I'd have to make sacrifices, but that I might see benefits. I don't know what flipped the switch. It just flipped. And I spent Sunday planning out and cooking my meals for the week which totally helped. And I went to the gym twice with my mom on top of seeing my trainer. Has it been easy? Heck no. This just isn't an easy process so get used to that. And it's not something that you can just do for weight loss and then stop when it's over. As everyone preaches it truly is a lifestyle change. But this week has been easy yet hard for me. Having everything prepared made my life totally easier even though it took up half my sunday. But having terrible cravings have made it hard. I'm not sure if I'll be able to keep it up, but at least now, for the moment, I'm motivated to try.

Hang in there. In the end only you can decide to make the changes. But one day it'll just happen for you. Not really a light bulb moment. But a sudden motivating desire to change and to act on it. And it will take awhile but the weight will start to come off. But yeah, it's a hard and sucky process. Sorry. :-)

On side note, I agree with others who suggest swimming or water aerobics. It's great exercise yet is really easy on your body.

Good Luck! I know that you'll figure it out.

move2lose
01-15-2012, 08:10 PM
I have fybro, severe hypothyroidism, PCOS and sleep apnea (and related depression) and its taken nearly three years to loose the 65lbs that I have - and I am still obese for my height. I even had 80% of my stomach removed (sleeve gastrectomy) nearly three years ago, which (even though it is still very successful in restricting my food intake) did little except prove to my Doctor that the food I was eating was not the cause of my weight. This realization did make him more willing to put me onto T3 medication only for my thyroid and that has been a life changing thing for me - I have my brain and mind and thought processes back after 20+ years of thyroxine doing absolutely nothing for me apart from making me feel like a vegetable. I also take vit/min supplements that definitely

I would recommend having a look at the realthyroidhelp.com website - 99% of Docotrs around the world have NO CLUE about treating thyroid problems correctly so that symptoms reduce. There are alternative medication that may help (Armour or T3 only), and vitamins and other supplements that also improve thyroid functioning. Thyroid and fybro are closely linked, I know for a fact that getting my thyroid under better control has definitely helped my fybro symptoms. The Armour is far superior a medication for MANY (but not all) thyroid sufferers than just T4 (synthyroid).

Fybro/thyroid/PCOS are also related (or at least commonly seen together) so if you have not been tested for that, it is definitely worth being tested for as it leads to Insulin Resistance and diabetes. Metformin is the most common treatment for it, but again, not all Doctors are knowledgeable about PCOS either.

High protein/low carb diet is the way to go (low carb as in no cakes/sugar/bread/rice/potatoe-starchy vegetables - Low GI vegetables and fruit is ok, as it dosn't spike your insulin levels). Not only will a diet like this help you loose weight, it helps clear the brain fog.

If you can afford it or have insurance, I would also suggest therapy to help you through the mental and emotional issues you have (ideally a therapist that works with bariatric patients as they will understand eating disorders/body image disorders whereas and will be able to help you more than a therapist without this specific type of experience.)

You have been given some excellent advice, I'd just like to add that swimming has been the best form of excercise for me in regards to improving the pain levels. I am swimming everyday and it is also now allowing me to use the treadmill/elliptical and do weight training without excessive pain like I have had in the past. Unfortunately there will be some pain associated with starting excercise becasue of the fybro - but doing a little is better than nothing and a good way to start. Excercise causes a release of endorphins (feel good hormones), so once you can get started it will also naturally help relieve depression.

Its not easy, but it is possible.

stronger4me
01-15-2012, 08:22 PM
For me the endorphins I get from working out doing something I love makes all the difference. I could never stick to going to the gym and getting on an elliptical (though I loved it for years!), but you can't keep me from thai boxing classes. The only reason I don't go everyday is because my body aches after each class. It's painful, but it's good pain so I don't mind.

Find something you actually enjoy doing! When you do, the pain won't matter as much. (Granted exercise pain. I don't know much about Fibro and can't speak to that).