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VermontMom
12-20-2011, 08:05 AM
My husband showed me a package he got in the mail. It was something he was psyched about, I guess it's cool if you like Star Wars stuff, it is a chrome pizza cutter in the shape of the Enterprise.

It was a Secret Santa gift, the site that was doing the Secret Santa is reddit ("the front page of the internet") and apparently you sign on, you get someone's profile and chose a gift for them, and someone gets you.

He told me he got some teacher in the mid-west, and she is a single parent, and likes coffee and travel. So he got her some kind of travel mug.

What .... the .... heck ... is he doing, putting time and thought ino buying some total stranger a gift for?!? After I communicated that thought, he got defensive.

"It took me all of 2 minutes to search for it" was what he said. Um, for our anniversary you printed some cheap 'card' from the internet and folded it wrong as a card :devil: so not much thought or effort into that.

Now if it had been a male he was getting a gift for, i still wouldn't approve! This is not some needy person who needs food or heat.

we are not strapped to pay our bills but I put off buying myself a pair of winter boots just because .. I don't know..just because I put off buying things that I need. Like winter boots, a new pair of prescription glasses.

We haven't brought this up since. I think he wants me to forget it. I don't know where the Enterprise pizza cutter has gone :devil: we don't even make our own pizza, so it's just another bauble in a house of things I want to clear of clutter and unnecessary stuff!!

Yes I do have resentments against him for other things, so I'm sure that is playing into this.

Just need to hear from others if this was as inappropriate as I thought it was.


Misti in Seattle
12-20-2011, 08:44 AM
Yes... I find it completely in appropriate, and the fact that he gets defensive when you bring it up even moreso.

fatferretfanatic
12-20-2011, 08:47 AM
I don't necessarily think his actions were inappropriate, but I can understand why you're upset. Is it that you feel neglected or as though a stranger gets more of his consideration? In that case, I really can understand why you feel frustrated. The action itself though, I don't feel is inappropriate because I do Secret Santa on a Ferret themed forum I am on, and I love doing it. It's some stranger's ferret I am buying for, but for some reason, the surprise of it all, and the fact that my ferrets always love the toys others send just makes it so much fun. However, if I neglected my husband or our ferrets Hubs might get upset at me, and I can see that. Maybe you should have a talk with your husband about how it made you feel. I hope all turns out well and you all work it out. Hugs!


VermontMom
12-20-2011, 08:47 AM
woohoo, thank you Misti, all I need is just one person agreeing with me :D

mammasita
12-20-2011, 08:48 AM
Yes, I have to say that it would bother me all things considered with respect to your relationship. Does your husband know that you put off buying "wants" for yourself? Men can be completely OBLIVIOUS a lot of the time.

Although, I don’t think the gift exchange was inappropriate in itself, in the context of your relationship I will say that he didn't put much thought into any of your extenuating circumstances.....especially considering your printed out anniversary card.

sontaikle
12-20-2011, 08:58 AM
I don't think his actions were inappropriate. He joined a Secret Santa and had to get a gift. However I think it's inappropriate that he gave you a haphazardly put together anniversary card.

When he gives you something you don't like, do you tell him?

We're conditioned to just accept gifts because 'it's the thought that counts' but honestly it's easy to see if someone got a gift for the sake of getting a gift or because they "had to." Next time he gives you something you don't like, tell him! Did you let him know you were disappointed with the anniversary card?

Yes, people will probably judge you if they find out. Blah blah whatever. I hate the whole mentality that we should just be grateful for whatever gift we get when it comes to close family members. They KNOW us and they should know what we want and like. If someone who isn't that close to you gives you an off the wall gift, that's different. Your HUSBAND should put a lot of thought into each and every gift or card he gives you.

A couple of years ago for Christmas my fiancee (boyfriend at the time) got me a wallet. A WALLET. I didn't need one or want one and he knew this (I have a really nice wallet I bought when I was in Italy that I still use). I put a lot of thought into his gift and when it came down to it he really had no excuse. I play video games, the same ones as him. A lot of guys would kill for a girlfriend like that and love to buy her video games.

My mother encouraged me to pull him aside and tell him I didn't like the gift. So I did. I gave it back to him and told him that I was hurt because I put a lot of thought into his gift and I expected him to put a lot of thought into mine. He got me another gift and has made sure that he puts thought into what he gets me ever since.

bargoo
12-20-2011, 09:10 AM
Totally inapproriate. Why was he doing this without your prior knowledge ?

VermontMom
12-20-2011, 09:37 AM
ferretlover - thank you for your answer too! Yes I felt neglected, you nailed it. And i liked your likening it to your ferret exchange also.

mammasita - yes, he knows I 'put off' things for myself. To give fair credit to him he does encourage me to get those things. So....guess that's my bad there. I guess I want HIM to 'put off' buying things too, but he's always been a 'get it if you want it' person.

sontailkle - you know, I DIDN't say 'what a crummy card' because I knew he'd act hurt. So I was avoiding confrontation, even if it was a tiny confrontation. God, as I listen to myself I seem like the one that needs therapy :rofl: (better yet - couples therapy, right) I think you were awesome when you told your guy that the wallet was not a cool gift to give you.

bargoo - I don't know why he didn't include me in this. I do belong to website forums that he doesn't...like this one! but I think maybe he didn't tell me because he knew I'd object?

ArtyKay
12-20-2011, 09:49 AM
Hmmm...I can understand that he doesn't see that its a big deal. In his mind, he was just doing a fun gift exchange.

He needs to realize that the problem isn't the gift giving itself, but that what he bought this woman was thoughtful and specific to her, not just some generic secret santa gift (like a gift basket or something.). And that he was so psyched about the present she got him.

Also, like mentioned, he didn't include you in the whole process. He should have realized that he was BUYING A GIFT FOR A WOMAN!!! And that he should have at least asked your opinion. Something along the lines of "Hey, I'm doing this fun gift exchange online...I got a woman, would you look at her profile and help me pick something?" would have saved a lot of conflict and saved you some seriously hurt feelings.

I understand how you feel, and while I don't necessarily think its inappropriate in and of itself, how he handled the situation was disrespectful to you.

If this had happened to me, I would have (in a perfect world where I don't yell or overreact...) told him, "Look...this situation bothers me and I wish you would have gone about it differently. I honestly feel like you put a lot more thought into this woman's gift than you've done for me in the past."

I mean, past is past and he can't undrop the bomb, but he does need to respect your feelings about it and make up for it.

midwife
12-20-2011, 10:09 AM
I've done Secret Santa exchanges in an online community. It sounds like he was excited about the pizza cutter.

I'm curious about the winter boots and glasses (mainly cause I do the exact same thing!). Why don't you get yourself what you need? I'm curious--cause that's what I do too! We are not rolling in money but I could get some new clothes. I don't. Everyone else in the family does. Why do women choose to go without even when we really really don't need to? My husband wouldn't. He's far more of a clothes horse than I am---although when we have money for clothes and I said, "I need clothes" he would be the first one to take me shopping.

But I don't buy the things I need, even though I could---and then I do resent the money spent on other things. But it's my choice to deny myself my needs, and then I'm annoyed.

Why don't you buy yourself your boots and glasses?

ArtyKay
12-20-2011, 10:14 AM
I've done Secret Santa exchanges in an online community. It sounds like he was excited about the pizza cutter.

I'm curious about the winter boots and glasses (mainly cause I do the exact same thing!). Why don't you get yourself what you need? I'm curious--cause that's what I do too! We are not rolling in money but I could get some new clothes. I don't. Everyone else in the family does. Why do women choose to go without even when we really really don't need to? My husband wouldn't. He's far more of a clothes horse than I am---although when we have money for clothes and I said, "I need clothes" he would be the first one to take me shopping.

But I don't buy the things I need, even though I could---and then I do resent the money spent on other things. But it's my choice to deny myself my needs, and then I'm annoyed.

Why don't you buy yourself your boots and glasses?

I do the same thing. My mom usually gets sick of me not buying anything for myself and takes me shopping or to get a haircut (I refuse to pay somebody to cut my hair.)...so it kind of takes my husband off the hook as far as that's concerned. I'm always getting things for my husband and surprising him with something, but doesn't really reciprocate. He woke me up the other day saying he'd been to the store and gotten me a present...he was pretty darn proud of himself.

He got me VCF strips (TMI...sorry!). The thing is...I know he was trying to be thoughtful. He just sucks at it. :rolleyes:

Unna
12-20-2011, 10:40 AM
I know this is serious - but I was laughing the entire way through your post! I think your hubby sounds hilarious and odd!

All I can say is, I assume he was weird when you married him - you can STILL say after all these years he is full of surprises!! Unfortunately they are not always for you -

Oh man, I'm still laughing. In an odd way, I find it cute when men take interests in weird things men *typically* don't care about. And then he was super excited to get a Star Trek pizza cutter even though he never bakes!

Sometimes you just have to laugh it off - people that are different make the world a colorful place.

I can see why you were agitated - but the story is really too funny to cause any real anger or resentment. You also do a good job telling it!

I agree with midwife: go buy the boots.

midwife
12-20-2011, 10:47 AM
He got me VCF strips (TMI...sorry!). The thing is...I know he was trying to be thoughtful. He just sucks at it. :rolleyes:

:rofl: Sounds a like a gift for him too!!!

ArtyKay
12-20-2011, 11:08 AM
:rofl: Sounds a like a gift for him too!!!

lol, I think it was primarily for him. :p We have to use protection for another few weeks or so, and he doesn't like the "love glove" option. But he just had this look on his face when he gave it to me...like our dogs get when they make a poo on somebody's lawn during a walk. Or bring us a dead bird.

124chicksinger
12-20-2011, 11:24 AM
I would be angry at the effort put into purchasing something for a stranger and the excitement in getting something in return....based on the lack of interest in buying something for you for a special day in your relationship. Clearly, printing a card off the internet takes no forethought whatsoever. You are right to be mad. You might want to call into question every little thing that angers you and decide whether your feelings are valid and where this relationship stands. If my fella put more effort into caring for a stranger than he did for me, everything would come into question.

krampus
12-20-2011, 11:35 AM
If he didn't skimp out on your anniversary gift and you had no other issues I'd say there's no reason to be upset, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I don't think husbands and wives need to share EVERYTHING, but it sounds like there is more going on. I'd be upset too.

Italiannie
12-20-2011, 11:43 AM
OMG, They can be so CLUELESS!
I agree with most everyone that you have a right to be upset, especially with the downloadable card incident. LOL
Honey, I've been there. I'm married to a wonderful man, but sometimes he is, without a doubt, from Mars.
You need to let him know how you feel. If we wait for them to understand us, we'll all wait a very long time. So.... even though you shouldn't have to explain this to him, do yourself and him a favor, explain it to him, help him to see it your way, and move on.

Of course if there's more to it, that's different, but my guess is he's just..... you know, clueless.:doh:

nina125
12-20-2011, 11:52 AM
I would be concerned too.

My husband is also very ****ty at buying gifts and does not like to put an effort into it. He doesn't even print me a card. His idea of gift is taking me to the store and asking me to pick what I want for Christmas or birthday. I don't resent him for it because that is the way he is with everybody including his parents. This year, he asked me to pick something for his secret santa at work; I made some suggestions, we agreed on a gift and he bought it. So yeah, I'd be concerned too if he put the time & effort to shop for a present for some stranger just because it is not the norm in our household.

CrystalZ10
12-20-2011, 11:53 AM
Sounds like its time to sit and have a heart to heart with your guy. Tell him internet cards are a no go from here on out, unless they come with a thoughtful gift. (Those online cards are pretty handy!lol)
Explain how it makes you feel to see him buy a gift for some random stranger and nothing for you.

If your buying a gift and putting effort into it, than you expect the same from him as well.
How does he react to your gifts? It sounds like this site lets you pick stuff you might like to get, so there is no guesswork when it comes to buying something. Maybe you can make lists of what you both want and each pick something from it?

cherrypie
12-20-2011, 12:59 PM
My husband showed me a package he got in the mail. It was something he was psyched about, I guess it's cool if you like Star Wars stuff, it is a chrome pizza cutter in the shape of the Enterprise.
defensive.



the enterprise is in star trek, nto star wars :p

krampus
12-20-2011, 01:08 PM
the enterprise is in star trek, nto star wars :p

good catch! make it so!

kaplods
12-20-2011, 01:12 PM
I guess I'm a bad spouse, because I've done both of these things (except I think I folded the card right).

In nine years of marriage my husband usually buys me gifts, I usually don't buy him gifts (I'm more disabled than he is, so he is the household and my care taker. T buy him a gift, I have to do it online, and he discovers it before it arrives, because he checks the bank account every day). Neither of us is materialistic, so we usually do something special on our anniversary rather than get gifts for each other.

My husband is a gamer-geek, so the gifts I have given him (usually for no-special occasion. I can forget the dates, but I give random gifts) are those associated with his interests. A Cthulhu Valentine (the day before Valentine's Day because I got the dates confused) - A frog (he collects) coloring page I colored just for the heck of it. A Halloween card - a full week before Halloween because again, I got the dates confused (again because the fibro interferes with my memory and cognitive functions).

I've exchanged "swap" gifts with people on my crafting and doll-making boards - usually doll stuff we've made ourselves. Usually the people in these groups are women and gay men, but there are the occasional hetero- male with a femine hobby. Heck my hubby is one of them, he does needlepoint.

I never consulted my husband before agreeing to these swaps. He didn't know about them until I told him I needed him to take me shopping or to the post office.

The gift swaps are tremendous fun. I didn't "need" the Barbie dress, the plastic canvas barbie chair, the craft supplies, or any of the other stuff.

During some of the swaps, our finances were so tight that the $4 to $12 I spent was money that could have been used on other things. But I didn't begrudge my husband his drive-through coffees, so I never even thought I was depriving him of anything by participating in these fun exchanges.

The randomness is part of the fun.I would ask though if you were sure that the online card was really thoughtless. I'm not sure I would draw any conclusions from "careless folding." What about the subject and sentiment of the card - are you sure it was generic? (Don't assume, ask him how long it took him to find your card, ask him why he picked that particular card. You may find that he was trying to be more romantic than you've given him credit for. Or you may make your point to him more clearly than if you had yelled if he can't tell you).


My husband is less careful with money than I am too. He's also more generous to his friends than I would like. One of the reasons he stopped buying gifts for me was that I had expressed my desire that he not spend the money. Not because the money is important to him, but because it was important to me. He still is generous with his friends - and that got me angry - that he was spending money on his friends and not on me. When I called him on it (and was quite angry) he was confused. I was yelling at him for doing what I had asked him to do (I never asked him to stop being generous with himself and others).

I agree that you need to tell him how you feel (ideally when you can do so without sounding as angry as you feel), and you need to offer him the opportunity to do the same (with some guys you have to ask directly).

Sinoia
12-20-2011, 01:20 PM
I would not be offended by it if my partner did it ... well, because she does have online communities and friends in which she invests time and effort, and a penpal for whom she buys gifts (that is not a red flag situation before someone suggests it is!).

However, I can see why you feel upset. I get the impression it is not about the gift he gave or received but that he has not invested the same attention and care in dealing with you and gifts for you? Have you told him this in a calm, explaining way? It sounds like he was really excited and feels that you pulled the rug from under him. He is thoughtless, not the devil incarnate, and may simply need an explanation. It is okay to say "Look, I feel hurt by this because ... I feel you do not treat me with the same depth of regard you seem to have invested in an online stranger/I was hurt by the excitement you showed in receiving a gift from a stranger when I put so much thought and care into those gifts I buy for you/I would like you to put some care into buying presents for me because I want and need our relationship to mean more than one you formed online."

Unless you talk it through how can you resolve this? Hiding the starship away (which, by the way, as a fan I would love!) is the same as hiding the online encounters away.. it is not healthy for either of you.

Talk to each other!

Chubbykins
12-20-2011, 03:57 PM
A few day after me and my partner got together we decided that we won't keep secrets from each other. Not even surpises.

The reason is that everything really runs smoother when you talk about things first.

The same goes for presents and what we buy for ourselves and others. It is not that we want to control each other's lives. In the contrary, we simply want to know eachother's needs and provide for them correctly and with maximum efficiency. This has kept us extremely happy with our tight budget,

And I never got a bad present, which is a bonus :p

Expunge
12-20-2011, 04:15 PM
Alone, no, I don't think secret santa exchanges are inappropriate. In fact I think those are the types of random acts of kindness that make the world a better place. If more people tried to brighten up the day of a random stranger, imagine how much more pleasant going through life would be!

What is inappropriate is him not putting though and time into your anniversary card/gifts. That is separate from the Secret Santa, and does show a certain amount of disregard/taking you for granted that shouldn't be acceptable!

I don't think it's fair to resent him for you holding back on things that you want, unless:

-You have agreed as a team not to buy anything except 'needs'
-You each have a small 'allowance' for personal spending and he exceeded his budget and dipped into shared money to buy the gift
-He asked you not to buy the boots/glasses

Mimzzy
12-20-2011, 04:17 PM
Honestly..... That would be a massive fight in my house. I find it to be completely unacceptable, no matter how big or small the gift was. I just couldn't help to think that the extra money that bought that could have gone to and this is going to sound selfish.... ME or YOU! I just think that we put up with a lot from our significant other, like a printed out, crappy folded "card" or "forgotten" anniversaries. This goes both ways though, they put up with a lot from us to but that's why I think... sometimes (on both ends) a good pampering is deserved.

I would sit him down and tell him exactly why you got upset over it and that you feel some stranger got more consideration and effort then you got on your anniversary. I would go as far as to "ask" him to never do that without your prior knowledge again.

VermontMom
12-20-2011, 07:44 PM
wow!! such a great bunch of chicks with great insight. FIRST, i am so embarrassed that I mixed up Star Trek and Star Wars. I should know better!!

It sounds like he was really excited and feels that you pulled the rug from under him. He is thoughtless, not the devil incarnate, and may simply need an explanation.

You know, he was really excited, and my reaction really deflated him.

and to the chick who included the pic of Homer ... lol! Clueless about some things, YES.

I do want to be able to calmly talk about this and explain how I feel/felt. And I think I can.

I don't know why, that women/mothers/wives will put ourselves last! I WILL get myself those boots. And I will make the appt for the glasses (need to do the annual eye xam anyway)

heehee, glad that I told this in a funny way :devil: Yes he has always been an offbeat person.

OH! here's another reason why I should be ridiculed for mixing up Star Trek and Star Wars. For our honeymoon, way back in 1979? ... we went to a Science Fiction Convention :rofl: I was way too young to realize that I could say "NO" to some things :devil::devil:

bitetoobreakkskin
12-20-2011, 07:58 PM
I haven't read all of the responses (FYI) :)

I think he was mostly doing it so he could get a gift. He probably chose the first thing he thought of, and hoped he would get something better.

On the other hand, I can see where you're coming from. I too have alot of those types of feelings when my husand does stuff like that. It drives me nuts!

Misti in Seattle
12-20-2011, 08:03 PM
woohoo, thank you Misti, all I need is just one person agreeing with me :D

Oh good! I was starting to feel outnumbered here. :) I think it is totally inappropriate for your husband to be buying gifts for a single woman without it coming from both of you, especially when you are not comfortable with it and make sacrifices yourself. An exception could be a coworker at an office "draw names" gift exchange or something. But someone he meets on the Internet? No way.

Misti in Seattle
12-20-2011, 08:04 PM
Honestly..... That would be a massive fight in my house. I find it to be completely unacceptable, no matter how big or small the gift was. I just couldn't help to think that the extra money that bought that could have gone to and this is going to sound selfish.... ME or YOU! I just think that we put up with a lot from our significant other, like a printed out, crappy folded "card" or "forgotten" anniversaries. This goes both ways though, they put up with a lot from us to but that's why I think... sometimes (on both ends) a good pampering is deserved.

I would sit him down and tell him exactly why you got upset over it and that you feel some stranger got more consideration and effort then you got on your anniversary. I would go as far as to "ask" him to never do that without your prior knowledge again.

I am not married but if I was and this happened something would hit the fan in my house too. :)

Esofia
12-21-2011, 06:15 PM
If this is a serious problem, then my partner should leave me, because I got about twelve quilt blocks through the post from total strangers as part of a block swap, and they were themed around sexuality as well (it's appropriate for the charity the quilt will be going to). For heaven's sake, folks, it was a daft random gift swap, all very low-key. A novelty pizza cutter is not a warning sign of impending adultery. Incidentally, you don't need to make your own pizza from scratch to need a pizza cutter, they are equally useful for take-aways or frozen pizzas.

If you're this worried about jealousy, then I suggest that you sit down with your partner and have a chat about what monogamy means to you, how you feel about it, which areas make you uncomfortable, how you feel trust balances out and so forth. Maybe say you were reading an article that got you thinking, if it feels odd to be having this conversation this late in your relationship. Personally I had it with my partner a week in - I was fairly sure we were on the same page but I didn't want to be guessing this time. I turned out to be right, but that didn't stop it from being a useful conversation, particularly as a trust-building exercise. I've read some excellent articles on trust and negotiating within a relationship on polyamory websites, and even though I'm thoroughly monogamous myself, they have been useful to me as it's stuff that's important for all relationships.

If you feel that it's really about gift-giving and feeling neglected in that area, then again, sit down and chat about it. Gift-giving is an important part of human cultures, it's common for it to be something that seems as if it should be minor but is actually the site of great stress.

We're socialised to expect that a perfect relationship runs on mindreading. Of course it's total nonsense, people need to be told things about each other, and we all need to work out when we've unconsciously assumed that the other person knows something without actually telling them. Either way, work out what is really triggering this anxiety you're feeling, and then go and talk about the real issue rather than the silly gift swap. Don't go in with ultimatums, and do go in prepared to think more deeply about things you've been taking for granted.

Arctic Mama
12-21-2011, 11:31 PM
But did he know she didn't like such things like the exchange, explicitly? My husband is absolutely incredible, our marriage is such a joy and he is so thoughtful - and yet, he still doesn't see things the way I do, or mind read where my brain might assume his intentions would go. His brain just wouldn't go there. He might be thinking 'this is a fun little swap' not 'I'm checking out women online and am kinder to them than my wife!'. As someone who has done these online exchanges without asking my husband first, it would have never occurred to me that getting a present for a swap with a stranger would be akin to a slap in the face and spousal neglect for him, because in OUR relationship it wouldn't! This is where each marriage differs greatly, I suppose.

I live out my life trying to give others the extensive benefit of the doubt - triply so, for the man I am tied to irrevocably, for the rest of our lives. I assume the very best of him and his intentions and thus rarely get let down, because every little thing is thoughtful and gracious, each action is another way he say he cares... It makes for a very happy time, honestly. I would never leap from his getting a nice present for a stranger and perhaps a less nice present for me as some sort of damning or intentionally hurtful action. That would only make us both more miserable.

I have to say, I think you're being a bit petty in this, but I am operating on very limited information. It could well be this has been discussed in depth and detail to where he could be expected to 'know better', but it honestly sounds like sour grapes of a bitter wife (and please, I say that in kindness! I don't think you're intending to come off the way it's sounding to me).

Graciousness to a stranger or a fun online exchange just doesn't translate to spousal neglect to me, but I fully admit I am operating off a very different paradigm.

justsomeguy
12-22-2011, 06:37 AM
But did he know she didn't like such things like the exchange, explicitly? My husband is absolutely incredible, our marriage is such a joy and he is so thoughtful...

Wow, what an insightful and kindhearted reply. Your relationship sounds like what we all strive for.

mgruce
12-22-2011, 08:04 PM
reddit is an awesome site... I think the gift exchange on there is a riot especially when the people post what they got.

I think you are madder that he bought her something and folded your card wrong. more hurt than anything.

he is a guy, they are clueless at times.. ok some more then others. mine BIG TIME! what mine thinks is a caring gesture is like nothing to me. I usually think did you think about this. could you have bought me something you know I would like? but after 18 years I still find it hard to accept at times. I wish he was more thoughtful, but I love him anyways.

explain to your hubby that you are hurt that he put thought into her gift and not into something for you. He may understand, he may not, be prepared for that. If anything, you will feel glad you said what you needed to..

Then have him show you posts on reddit with the pics of what people got!

bargoo
12-22-2011, 08:26 PM
I don't get the impression that she is upset about him being in the forum, it is not knowing. If he had said something like" hey , I found this forum , sounds like fun" and explained briefly how it works ,she would have the opportunity to say, "I'm not interested. ", and the important thing here is that she din't know about it and was caught off guard when he got the gift.
In marriage it is always best to keep your spouse aware of what you are doing, not every minute, of course, but things that are a little unusual are best to be out in the open.

CrystalZ10
12-22-2011, 11:49 PM
Just a thought, but maybe the OP could just join the site for kicks and giggles? Maybe it would be a common bond for you and your husband. Or you could just get a decent gift from a new friend? lol

cherrypie
12-26-2011, 04:06 PM
just wanted to let everyone know, I got an enterprise pizza cutter for christmas. :lol:

hope you guys sorted out your issues and he bought you something nice for christmas.