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EZMONEY
12-03-2011, 11:53 AM
This is the time of year that brings many people happiness :carrot: and yet others sadness :(

for many it's bittersweet...

I "LIKE" Christmas for many reasons...

#1 ~ The time believers set time to celebrate the birth of our Savior :angel:

#2 ~ Seeing the amazing smiles :) from my GRANDdaughter when she sees Grandpa and Nonni's Christmas decorations and lights :tree:

#3 ~ The music! Love-LOVE the music

#4 ~ The memories of my kids standing at the top of the stairs looking, with sleepy eyes, down into the living room at the SANTA goodies :clause:

#5 ~ The joy of handing out Christmas baskets at church to those that are less fortunate

I don't have many dis-likes but I do understand why so many feel stressed and disappointed this time of year :hug:

Prayers that all of us focus a little more on the joy of the season :xcheer:

YOUR THOUGHTS?.....


Esofia
12-03-2011, 12:25 PM
Well, personally I dislike Christmas, but I don't think you want to hear about it in what seems to be a celebratory thread. It does feel as if it may be more appropriate for the faith forum, however, since you're talking about it from a specifically religious, Christian standpoint.

dragonwoman64
12-03-2011, 12:37 PM
wow, lighten up, ha.

I wrote about this in another thread, but since irl I repeat myself often, why not in a forum??

I love the smell of the pine trees
the craft fairs
all the lighted decorations, especially at night
love singing and hearing the carols; midnight mass
I like baking cookies (though it can be tiring, don't have the energy I once did!)
the cheesy holiday movies
I'm knitting a couple of gifts (love knitting)
I love giving gifts, and ok, getting them (fun to unwrap a gift, ha)
I'm not a big shopper, but I do enjoy going into the little stores in the neighborhood and seeing all the stuff they have, and sometimes finding something special for someone; actually, I use it as an excuse to window shop at a lot of places I don't normally go to

we're going to make snow flakes for the windows today, too funny


theox
12-03-2011, 01:07 PM
Well, Christmas is a Christian holiday. ;)

I'm a non-theist, but I enjoy many aspects of Christmastime.

Likes....

1. Being able to do nice things for people without having to come up with a reason. Giving to charities is facilitated too, thanks to angel/silver trees, holiday food drives, etc.
2. Getting to spend time with family.
3. The music and other artistic endeavors. I'm a sucker for a good Christmas story, and I like some of the Christmas-themed plays too. C'mon, The Best Christmas Pageant Ever is hilarious.
4. The decorations (to a point....:lol:). I especially like the lights and the evergreen stuff. The actual lights are one of the things I like best about Hanukkah, too. Those and latkes. Yum. :T
5. Giving and getting presents. Especially when they're wrapped. It's just fun.
6. Getting to see religious people take religion seriously. This isn't meant as a slur on Christians, and some people are mindful of their professed beliefs all the time, but a lot of people do seem more thoughtful and "tuned-in" to their religion than they do at other times of the year.
7. I haven't been to one in a while, but I've also liked the Christmas Eve church services.
8. Christmas parties. They give me the chance to see people when they're more relaxed (relaxed, not drunk (usually)), as well as to see people I don't normally get to spend time with.
9. Writing Christmas cards. I love to correspond with people using "snail" mail, but most of the people I know aren't into that. Sending Christmas cards is a fun way to stay in touch with my extended family and friends, without having them ask why I didn't just send them a message on Facebook. :rolleyes:

Dislikes...

The turbo-charged commercialism that's become associated with the holiday, mainly.

EZMONEY
12-03-2011, 02:46 PM
..... It does feel as if it may be more appropriate for the faith forum, however, since you're talking about it from a specifically religious, Christian standpoint.

I understand your point Esofia, however a lot of my post was about :clause:
and he is not "religious".....

As far as more appropriate in Faith Based I disagree. I have posted Christmas threads here for almost 10 years. I find the majority of the posters that post on them are usually not religious at all. They celebrate the "season"....

and we share those memories/traditions....

likes and dislikes.

midwife
12-03-2011, 04:30 PM
Tonight is the holiday parade in my town! Brrrrr!!!! It will be fun (and cold!)

I love Christmas lights. And red chile (of course, that's year round) Decorating the Christmas trees and seeing all of the ornaments we've collected through the years. Snowmen. Penguins!

jules1216
12-03-2011, 05:18 PM
many of mine have been said...

the pine smell of a fresh tree or wreath..
the lights...especially the smiles of small children when they see the light but at almost 46 I become a kid again when the lights are glowing..
It's a Wonderful Life & Miracle on the 34th St..
the music..
memories of past Christmas's

dislike--the commercialism of it all...

Chelby29
12-03-2011, 05:43 PM
This time of the year, I have the BEST job. I work at a Child Advocacy Center. We work with children who have been physically and sexually abused. Several of our children are truly disadvantaged. I match these families with sponsors. When the sponsors come in, they are so excited about what they are giving the family. When the families come in, they are truly thankful. I get lots of hugs from and share lots of tears with both sides. In it all, I am the one who is truly blessed.

alinnell
12-03-2011, 06:47 PM
My only dislike right now is that I can't put up a Christmas tree for the SECOND year in a row because, like last year, I have a new kitten in the house. As I was sure the first one would destroy the tree last year, I'm more than certain that the new kitty will destroy it this year. (BTW, I am now on my THIRD laptop charging cord due to kitten teeth destroying them. Not fun at $80 a pop, so I'm well versed in what my kittens will destroy!!).

Gary, I'm kind of sad this year as it's my first Christmas without my Mom--not that we've celebrated with them much since I moved down here 21 years ago, but it's still bittersweet.

But for some likes....baking cookies and my Mom's Julekaka. Hot chocolate and egg nog (not that I actually drink it often!). Giving to our local charities where I KNOW the money will go to good use (I'm so sick of "paid professional fundraisers calling me!). Christmas lights on my way home from work. Just the gathering of friends and family and the feeling of togetherness. Oh, and game time on Christmas afternoon with the kids and Grandma & Grandpa while DH sleeps in front of the football game on TV!

chickadee32
12-03-2011, 06:50 PM
I'm Jewish by conversion, but I grew up as a Christian and I still enjoy Christmas. :) My family celebrates the holidays in a pretty secular manner; Christmas for us is all about family and traditions. And food and alcohol, lol.

My favorite things:

- Christmas Eve with my family! My father lines the driveway and street in front of their house with luminaria and it's so beautiful, especially when it's a white Christmas. So many homes in their neighborhood used to do it, but I think my parents are the only ones who still do. And the big Christmas Eve party at my parents' house - food and drinks and Christmas carols and Secret Santa and White Elephant and everyone stays until well past midnight. My grandmother passed away last year, and I will always miss her playing the piano on Christmas Eve. She played by ear, and it was always unique and beautiful.

-Christmas morning with my parents and sister and husband! More traditions. Stockings and watching my sister open her gifts (she's 32, and still gets SO excited on Christmas morning to open her gifts) and party leftovers for breakfast with mimosas.

-Wrapping paper and ribbon. I LOVE picking out wrapping paper and fancy ribbon for my gifts. I use a different color scheme each year, and on Christmas morning each family member gets their own specific paper that I've picked out just for their gifts.

-Napoleon creams. If you've never had them, you are seriously missing out.


Things I could do without:

-Staying up until 4am in a hotel room wrapping my parents and sister's gifts because we've traveled in from out of town for the holiday, lol. I am very particular about how my gifts are wrapped (see above), and they must look perfect. This was much easier when I lived in the same city as my family, lol.

-Christmas Day dinner at my aunt's house. I love my extended family, but there is such a thing as TOO much togetherness in the space of 24 hours! We're usually all exhausted from the night before and would really rather just stay home in our pajamas.


For all the craziness and constant go-go-go that traveling to see my family for Christmas entails, I'm going to be very sad to miss it all this year. :( I'm going through some treatments right now which require me to stay local over the holidays, and this will only be the second time ever that I've not spent Christmas with my family. The last time, 7 years ago, I was utterly depressed. Here's hoping that my procedure is successful; if it is, I will have something to be very merry about on Christmas. :)


I hope everyone has a wonderful holiday season!

EZMONEY
12-03-2011, 07:33 PM
I should go shower, shave and put on my fancy clothes for our company party....

but I am enjoying sitting here with my lovely wife, glass of wine in hand, listening to the 500 Christmas songs programmed....

on my ipod...

playing on "our" Christmas present to ourselves...

our new Bose ipod dock....

"Thank you for the present babe!...why thank you too babe"

"We deserve it...we do".....

lol

GlamourGirl827
12-03-2011, 08:20 PM
For the record, I'm an atheist. Having said that,

I LOVE Christmas!! :ginger:
I love the warmer spirit that seems to be everywhere, I love shoping for gifts, the smell of wrapping paper, baking holiday treats, the commonality of shopper and people when I'm out and about, sending out Christmas cards, receiving people's cards; especially when they have a family photo and we can see how big all the kids got!. I LOVE Christmas music, singing it, hearing it! I love putting up the tree and seeing the lights after it gets dark out. I love seeing family on the holidays. I love all the Christmas movies they play this time of year, especially the classics! Decorations, Santa, stockings, I even have a nativity set I've put up for years.
Christmas just brings this overall feeling of love and celebration that I look forward to every year! :clause:

Gogirl008
12-03-2011, 09:09 PM
I consider myself to be agnostic, not totally convinced of anything. But, I love Christmas and the whole holiday season! And I'm very respectful and maybe even slightly envious of those who are serious believers. The love rubs off on me a little during this time of the year.

I have my moments of self-pity and poor me, but over all, it's a nice time to be with people. Lots of warm fuzzies!

One of my favorite things to do is send out holiday cards. I love, love, love the idea of sending a kind, warm thought to people I don't get to see very often, regardless of religion. Obviously, we should do this year-round, but this is the time *I* do it.

Love the Christmas music, love the kids and Santa, candles and treats. And like GlamourGirl827 does, I put out my nativity set every year.

To be honest, I love the commercialism! I do understand why it bothers people and I don't mean to be disrespectful, but it really peps me up and keeps the spirit of the season going for me. I don't have much family or tradition to follow, so the stores and shopping keep me feeling connected and involved. Plus, shopping for the people I love is just part of the fun.

Rainbowgirl
12-03-2011, 09:23 PM
Celebrating Christmas really doesn't have to have anything to do with religion if you don't want it to. The holiday itself is only related to Christianity very loosely that it's really, truly, more of a "mixed bag" holiday.

That said, I celebrate Christmas because to me it means a time to get together with family and express our joy and happiness of having each other in our lives. To exchange gifts as symbols of that love and joy, and to just really connect with them.

I love the christmas trees, the lights, the decorations, the gift wrapping, the gift buying, the ribbons, the treats, etc.

Like Gogirl008, I also love the commercialism. I love the flow of people everywhere, I love the holiday displays, etc. It's just all so pretty!

Plus, even though it's usually a REALLY stressful time of year - I find that people are oftentimes more polite and happy than any other time of the year. :)

Chubbykins
12-04-2011, 06:47 AM
I personaly care only about people and secondarily about the rest of living things. Gods and religions belong (to me) in the sphere of philosophy, theory and culture. I do not give this stance of mine a title.

Having said so, I like many things about Christmas, but most have to do with childhood memories and how happy my mother is when we celebrate it. Also I generaly like holidays and celebrations, because they are peaceful and make some people happy.

Sadly I also dislike plenty of things about this holiday in specific.

1. I have a childhood hate against Santa Claus, easter rabbit etc, because it was the first time I realised my parents consistently lied to me and taught me rubbish as truth and not happy fiction. As an adult I forgive of course their good intended lies, but the child I was felt unsafe, abandoned and heartbroken. (Not because they didn't exist, but because the people I depended on most lied to me blatantly)

2. I hate how many trees get cut, used and thrown away just for a decoration. Buy reusable plastic trees people, they don't have parasites on them, don't shed needles and above all don't die.

3. I hate how much paper gets wrapped around things simply to be torn away and thrown away.

4. I do not like how my pre diabetic mother uses it as another excuse to not lose weight. I'd rather abolish Christmas from my life than lose her.

5. I do not like how so many cultures and groups of people do not share it with us, either because they are too poor or believe in different things. Holidays should be global.

6. I do not like how marketing uses and abuses the holiday from early november till mid of january.

7. I do not like the fact that relationships get measured with gifts by shallow people and kids.

8. I hate how expensive airplane tickets become during holidays.

9. I hate the traffic jams it creates

:) Still we can always improve Christmas in the future. I will celebrate Eco-friendly human-centered holidays with my children. Not consumarism-plagued religion themed ones.

bargoo
12-04-2011, 07:12 AM
I love the Christmas Eve Service, celebrating the birth of Christ, Such a wonderful time of glorious Christnas music, candlelight and prayers and seeing everybody with a wonderful spirit.
Christmas is a religious holiday, taken over by commercialism , sadly but of course I enjoy that part of it, too. I like seeing the beautiful decorations both commerical and the local residents who sometimes rival commercial enterprises in decorations. I even like Santa but I do not confuse him with our Saviour.
All in all it is a wonderful time of year.
Merry Christmas, everybody !

Beck
12-04-2011, 08:27 AM
2. I hate how many trees get cut, used and thrown away just for a decoration. Buy reusable plastic trees people, they don't have parasites on them, don't shed needles and above all don't die.



Actually, from an environmental standpoint, real trees are the better choice. Artificial trees are chemical-laden, made mostly in China- then shipped across the globe, and eventually end up in landfills where they don't disintegrate. Real trees are a renewable resource, many are locally grown- meaning less transportation related pollution, and many are recycled into mulch. Even those trees that are not mulched will naturally disintegrate.

I'm Jewish, but still enjoy the Christmas season. I especially enjoy all the lights and greenery. I could live without the tacky decorations and blow up lawn ornaments.

One thing I dislike about this time of year are the disagreements on whether "Happy holidays" or "Merry Christmas" is more appropriate to say. I don't mind having a Merry Christmas wished to me, as I take it in the spirit of its offering. No one is wishing me harm by it; it's not a curse. I politely accept their greeting and simply wish them also a Merry Christmas. The political correctness is out of control.

I dislike that so many people focus on the consumerism of the holiday instead of the spirit of it. I wish more people would buy fewer things and redirect their gifting to those that are gifts of time- going to an event together, baking together, or volunteering their time for others.

GlamourGirl827
12-04-2011, 08:52 AM
One thing I dislike about this time of year are the disagreements on whether "Happy holidays" or "Merry Christmas" is more appropriate to say. I don't mind having a Merry Christmas wished to me, as I take it in the spirit of its offering. No one is wishing me harm by it; it's not a curse. I politely accept their greeting and simply wish them also a Merry Christmas. The political correctness is out of control.

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This is the only thing negative about this time of year that I can see. And its really only been an issue in recent years. Like you said, when strangers wish a Happy or Merry whatever, it is a kind gesture and should be seen as such. But now its become awkward. I use both. Just whatever comes to my head. I've never had anyone comment either way, thankfully. Technically, the winter solstice is a common time for many religions and cultures in history to have a holiday or holy time. Does it mean I have remember to wish good wishes for each one? I hope not, that's a lot of memorizing! I think it would take a college level course to learn about them all. So Merry Christmas is my way of saying have a good whatever you celebrate!! :D

nelie
12-04-2011, 09:13 AM
This is actually my least favorite time of year. The days are short which I hate. Traveling is a nightmare. Driving on some roads is a nightmare and going anywhere near stores is a nightmare.

Having said that, I decided to travel for Christmas this year. It means a lot to my mom and my grandfather recently died so its going to be a tough Christmas for my family.

EZMONEY
12-04-2011, 07:32 PM
I had ordered some Christmas activity books, stickers pages of a nativity scene and a Baby Jesus color book with a small box of crayons attached to each.

They came yesterday so I placed them on a table in our narthex of our sanctuary.

Way-WAY! cool watching the excitement on the kids faces as they pick them up!

Makes it all worthwhile....

sontaikle
12-04-2011, 09:30 PM
Christmas is my favorite time of year. The rampant consumerism bothers me, but when you get past that the overall message of Christmas is beautiful.

I work in a Catholic school and I really love being able to decorate my classroom in Christmas things :)

Rainbowgirl
12-05-2011, 12:56 AM
One thing I dislike about this time of year are the disagreements on whether "Happy holidays" or "Merry Christmas" is more appropriate to say. I don't mind having a Merry Christmas wished to me, as I take it in the spirit of its offering. No one is wishing me harm by it; it's not a curse. I politely accept their greeting and simply wish them also a Merry Christmas. The political correctness is out of control

This.

It's been a topic on my Facebook for a while recently - not started by me. Posted as status updates by friends complaining (not even their original words, either) about how you can't say this or that. Frankly, I've NEVER had someone get upset at me for saying Merry Christmas and I wouldn't get upset if someone said Happy Hanukkah to me. It's the SPIRIT in which it is said that counts. You're wishing the other person a good holiday season, because it IS a holiday season; with christmas, hanukkah, winter solstice, kwanzaa and al hijra(think I spelled that right, possibly not) happening all in the same month.

And I hate that 90% of the time it's only ONE SPECIFIC GROUP of people who are complaining about this "merry christmas" stuff.

That would be my beef with the season; only one I can think of.

zenor77
12-05-2011, 01:41 AM
Most years, I want to love Christmas, but then end up getting caught up in the stress of it all. Primarily from trying to do too much and living up to expectations (whose, I'm not sure.)

This year is different. I've given myself permission to only do what I can. I know I won't get to everything I want to, but that's okay. I will not stress out over Christmas. I want to enjoy the season.

The things I love:

Church services. I love the Advent season. It's nice to have the reminder to reflect and think upon why I believe what I believe. It's supposed to be a peaceful time and I'm working on that.

Baking and giving those baked goods away! I don't need to eat them to enjoy them. ;)

The other (non-baked) foods.

Crafts!!!

The music (religious and secular.)

Spending time with family and friends.

The decorations and lights.

The parties!

Watching my toddler son experience the holidays.

Traditions. I love the comfort of them.

Things I dislike:

I miss my parents most this time of year.

The traveling. I love seeing family, but getting there sucks!

The mass consumerism. It's not about stuff and shouldn't be.

We don't put up a tree because we travel.

Serval87
12-05-2011, 01:41 AM
I'm Christian, and Christmas was held pretty highly when I was a kid. My father's side would come together at my grandparents' house, and there'd be gifts for the kids and my grandparents and a huge feast. It was a wonderful time, but since my grandparents have passed, the "reunion" has ceased. It's a bit depressing. We hold a Christmas Eve party just between my parents, brother, uncle, aunt, and their children since they live just down the road from us. Also, in the middle of December my mother's side comes to visit. They live only an hour or so away, but we really only get to see them once a year, because they don't like "traveling".

We don't have much money at all (especially this season), so it's a little depressing that I can't do a lot of the "fun" Christmas things like baking treats for people, buying gifts for people, or going out and doing stuff.

I also don't like how close Christmas is to my birthday, so there's always the stress of "what have I done this year" hanging over me. :(

I do enjoy Christmas music. Since I'm more into classical singers, it's really the only time they play some of my favorite singers on the radio. Then, again, I'm not always in the mood for it, especially when I'm feeling depressed.

I like the decorations, cold weather, and snow too.

I really hope this doesn't offend anybody, but:

The thing that bothers me the most (more than the commercialism) is the fact that most people put on their Christianity like it's a winter sweater they've kept in the dresser drawer all year long. They wear it this time of year, and then it goes back in the "drawer" until next year.

chickadee32
12-05-2011, 03:19 AM
One thing I dislike about this time of year are the disagreements on whether "Happy holidays" or "Merry Christmas" is more appropriate to say. I don't mind having a Merry Christmas wished to me, as I take it in the spirit of its offering. No one is wishing me harm by it; it's not a curse. I politely accept their greeting and simply wish them also a Merry Christmas. The political correctness is out of control.

I agree with this too. I am NEVER bothered when someone wishes me a Merry Christmas; I thank them and cheerily wish them a Merry Christmas in return. What does bug me is when someone gets annoyed that, when offering the wishes first, I've wished them "Happy Holidays" rather than "Merry Christmas". I'm not trying to remove Christ from your holiday, I just don't know what you celebrate, if anything at all, and I'm merely wishing you happiness no matter how you spend your December.

Gogirl008
12-05-2011, 06:05 AM
I agree with this too. I am NEVER bothered when someone wishes me a Merry Christmas; I thank them and cheerily wish them a Merry Christmas in return. What does bug me is when someone gets annoyed that, when offering the wishes first, I've wished them "Happy Holidays" rather than "Merry Christmas". I'm not trying to remove Christ from your holiday, I just don't know what you celebrate, if anything at all, and I'm merely wishing you happiness no matter how you spend your December.

Gosh, that would make a great FB post.

GlamourGirl827
12-05-2011, 03:12 PM
And I hate that 90% of the time it's only ONE SPECIFIC GROUP of people who are complaining about this "merry christmas" stuff.



You have it capitalized like you KNOW who the one group is. Do share!

djs06
12-05-2011, 03:32 PM
Although I do tend to get overwhelmed and sometimes inexplicably sad around the holidays, there are so many things I love.

The smell of pine trees... mmmm.

Decorating the tree with my family and laughing at the doozy ornaments I made as a kid.

Making use of the christmasy plates/utensils/coffee mugs.

Driving around and looking at the lights and decorations.

The "spirit" of the season.

What I don't love? How crowded the stores are and how CRAZY people get. I hate how they mill around the stores walking into each other and completely oblivious to their surroundings.

But then again.. I do it too. :lol:

Sinoia
12-05-2011, 03:50 PM
I do not celebrate Christmas. This is not a Scrooge thing, I honestly see no real point in it and it seems to be a terribly stressful time for so many people, especially during the money crunch.

At this time of year with so many advertisements about gifts and tables laden with banquets I am always more and more aware of people who will not see a meal today or for many days, or are dying of hunger and diseases that could be cured with simple medicines that they cannot afford.

So I give something extra to charities and ask anyone who has me on their present list to make a donation to the Red Cross or Unicef.

I would ask you to do the same. The gift of life is something you can afford if you just perhaps give up one of those pairs of slippers or box of chocolates. Or just slip a few coins in the RSPCA donation box ... or drop off a few cans of cat and dog food to your local centre.

Ask your child if he, or she, would like to help another child this Christmas and perhaps they may just choose to make a donation instead of having that extra little gift in the stocking. You can make a little card from Santa to thank them. It may just be the present they most remember when they are adults and will create an awareness for them that will embrace life for all.

sontaikle
12-05-2011, 04:02 PM
I agree with this too. I am NEVER bothered when someone wishes me a Merry Christmas; I thank them and cheerily wish them a Merry Christmas in return. What does bug me is when someone gets annoyed that, when offering the wishes first, I've wished them "Happy Holidays" rather than "Merry Christmas". I'm not trying to remove Christ from your holiday, I just don't know what you celebrate, if anything at all, and I'm merely wishing you happiness no matter how you spend your December.

I always hate the Happy Holidays vs Merry Christmas thing. Happy Holidays is an all-inclusive greeting that wishes a person a nice holiday regardless of what they celebrate...what's so wrong with that? :?:

I'm still bitter from when I was a teenager working in a drug store. I wished everyone a Happy Holiday because I had no idea what they celebrated unless they made it known (like...wearing a cross or something). A few people yelled at me that I should be wishing them a MERRY CHRISTMAS and that it was so HORRIBLE that I was taking the Christ out of Christmas. Ugh.

nelie
12-05-2011, 05:20 PM
Although I grew up Catholic, I see Christmas as mostly a secular holiday. People who have no ties to Christianity will celebrate it. Some people love holidays, some people love gift giving and receiving.

Having said that, many, many people have had bad experience with Christians in their past and I can understand there concerns with them feeling as if a Hristian holiday is being forced upon them. I say if someone says they don't celebrate Christmas and they would rather you say nothing or happy holidays, then what is the problem? I think we should be considerate towards others and it is a simple thing to do.

I personally don't care but understand why it might bother some.

ICUwishing
12-05-2011, 05:32 PM
Likes: The music, Christmas trees, the church services, the family, the food, the increased goodwill.
Dislikes: Getting tangled up into the ritualistic consumerism, and "tip season". Which relates back to ... January credit card bills. :rolleyes:

theox
12-05-2011, 06:57 PM
Having said that, many, many people have had bad experience with Christians in their past and I can understand there concerns with them feeling as if a Hristian holiday is being forced upon them. I say if someone says they don't celebrate Christmas and they would rather you say nothing or happy holidays, then what is the problem? I think we should be considerate towards others and it is a simple thing to do.

If a person knows that someone else doesn't celebrate Christmas or feels negatively about the holiday and doesn't want it mentioned, it would be reasonable and considerate to avoid doing so. However, if a person hasn't been told that another person feels that way, it's hardly reasonable to expect that the well-wisher read the other person's mind. It's the same sort of thing with people who are adamant that everybody say "merry Christmas" instead of using less-specific holiday phrases (for any reason) and get bent out of shape when some unfortunate near-stranger makes the mistake of wishing them "happy holidays."

Making a point of remembering someone's (known) preferences is always a mark of kindness and respect (or at least self-preservation, if the person's a real curmudgeon). However, it's also considerate and gracious to allow others, especially those who don't know us well, to freely express their own enjoyment of a particular event or season and accept (if we can) their remarks in the friendly or affectionate spirit in which they're often given, even if we don't see things the same way they do. That can be a form of self-preservation too, of course, if one isn't eager to be cast as a social-friction-creating Other or be perceived as rude, but I think that there are also nobler reasons to do it.

EZMONEY
12-05-2011, 09:00 PM
The way I see it....

if anyone is :mad:, or has their panties or boxers in a bunch, because someone wished them...

Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas with kindness and a :)

then that person probably makes most people around them miserable on a daily basis.

Serval87
12-05-2011, 09:26 PM
I do not celebrate Christmas. This is not a Scrooge thing, I honestly see no real point in it and it seems to be a terribly stressful time for so many people, especially during the money crunch.

At this time of year with so many advertisements about gifts and tables laden with banquets I am always more and more aware of people who will not see a meal today or for many days, or are dying of hunger and diseases that could be cured with simple medicines that they cannot afford.

So I give something extra to charities and ask anyone who has me on their present list to make a donation to the Red Cross or Unicef.

I would ask you to do the same. The gift of life is something you can afford if you just perhaps give up one of those pairs of slippers or box of chocolates. Or just slip a few coins in the RSPCA donation box ... or drop off a few cans of cat and dog food to your local centre.

Ask your child if he, or she, would like to help another child this Christmas and perhaps they may just choose to make a donation instead of having that extra little gift in the stocking. You can make a little card from Santa to thank them. It may just be the present they most remember when they are adults and will create an awareness for them that will embrace life for all.

I totally get what you're saying, and think those are wonderful and thoughtful ideas. If I had children, I would encourage this. :)

nelie
12-05-2011, 10:55 PM
If a person knows that someone else doesn't celebrate Christmas or feels negatively about the holiday and doesn't want it mentioned, it would be reasonable and considerate to avoid doing so. However, if a person hasn't been told that another person feels that way, it's hardly reasonable to expect that the well-wisher read the other person's mind. It's the same sort of thing with people who are adamant that everybody say "merry Christmas" instead of using less-specific holiday phrases (for any reason) and get bent out of shape when some unfortunate near-stranger makes the mistake of wishing them "happy holidays."


Personally, I've never known anyone strongly on either side of the argument but I'd say in general, if someone knows that many people prefer "Happy Holidays" as an all-encompassing 'nicety', then it might be something I'd recommend using for someone if you don't know them. I'm not saying act angrily towards someone else but rather, if you hear someone say "I prefer Happy Holidays" then it shouldn't be a cause of a major debate.

EZMONEY
12-05-2011, 11:10 PM
I know how stressful Christmas season can be with all the "stuff", like parties, shopping, traffic, travel.

Since the kids have grown and married, well 2/3 we have taken the $$$ we would all spend on each other and tossed it into the middle of the table after our Christmas dinner.

Then we decide as a family on what to do with it. Several years we sent it to World Vision, one year we gave it to my sister to help her with her co-pays for breast cancer, last year we gave it to my dil for her mom so she could afford to come out after my granddaughter was born.

A lot of shopping stress gone!

We also exchange names at Thanksgiving with our extended family and friends, around 25+. Limit it to a $25 gift. This has worked out well for many years. Everyone meets at my house Christmas Eve...an easy dinner planned by Angie and I, side dishes and goodies from everyone else....perfect!

For the Advent service at church we added dinner beforehand years ago. This allows families to come for dinner then service. Different groups from church prepare it each week then take the profits for their "causes". This takes a lot of stress off families trying to get kids picked up, fed and then to church.

theox
12-06-2011, 12:55 AM
Personally, I've never known anyone strongly on either side of the argument but I'd say in general, if someone knows that many people prefer "Happy Holidays" as an all-encompassing 'nicety', then it might be something I'd recommend using for someone if you don't know them. I'm not saying act angrily towards someone else but rather, if you hear someone say "I prefer Happy Holidays" then it shouldn't be a cause of a major debate.

I think that you're absolutely correct that using language that people prefer is the ideal thing to do, when their preferences are known. However, it's unfair to any individual to assume that s/he should know what other people prefer, or to take somebody to task because s/he didn't guess one's preferred phrase, especially if the person is a stranger or casual acquaintance. Preferred terms vary by region and population, and a lot of places are mixed. Nobody's going to guess right all the time, and I don't think they should be penalized for not being telepathic. FWIW, I suspect that most of the people where I'm from would probably prefer the term "Merry Christmas," and in most cases that would be a pretty "safe" term to use around strangers and casual acquaintances there. And I do think that if somebody returned a casual acquaintance's wish for a merry Christmas with "I prefer Happy Holidays" in my hometown, that person might get the words they wanted to hear, but s/he'd also probably be perceived as crazy, rude, self-absorbed, high maintenance, and/or stand-offish. Folks probably wouldn't debate him (or her), but I can almost guarantee a person doing that would be talked about (and laughed at) and that the talk would travel. That's probably all right for a person who doesn't need or care about other people, will never see the Merry Christmasers or Happy Holidayers again (although if that were the case, why bother "correcting" them in the first place?), or is indifferent to or desires being considered strange, antagonistic, or an outsider. But I don't think it's a good way to be perceived if one wants to build or become part of a business or sustained-but-casual social group that includes the people using the offending phrase, or if one's trying to build relationships and a good reputation so s/he can increase his/her odds of fighting battles that are actually worth fighting (like poverty, pollution, graft, corruption, etc.). Just my take on it. To some people it may be worth the effort and the risks.

nelie
12-06-2011, 07:40 AM
I think that you're absolutely correct that using language that people prefer is the ideal thing to do, when their preferences are known. However, it's unfair to any individual to assume that s/he should know what other people prefer, or to take somebody to task because s/he didn't guess one's preferred phrase, especially if the person is a stranger or casual acquaintance.

I wasn't taking anyone to task. My view is that Happy Holidays is all-encompassing and Merry Christmas is more narrow. If you are at a church, then most likely Merry Christmas would be different than if you were at store. Even people who belong to a religion without winter holidays would most likely understand and appreciate Happy Holidays. So overall, I know some may cling to Merry Christmas, but I think Happy Holidays is more generic and could possibly be better language for someone if you don't know if they celebrate Christmas.

theox
12-06-2011, 07:52 AM
I wasn't taking anyone to task. My view is that Happy Holidays is all-encompassing and Merry Christmas is more narrow. If you are at a church, then most likely Merry Christmas would be different than if you were at store. Even people who belong to a religion without winter holidays would most likely understand and appreciate Happy Holidays. So overall, I know some may cling to Merry Christmas, but I think Happy Holidays is more generic and could possibly be better language for someone if you don't know if they celebrate Christmas.

I didn't say you were taking anyone to task. :)

bargoo
12-06-2011, 08:14 AM
I wasn't taking anyone to task. My view is that Happy Holidays is all-encompassing and Merry Christmas is more narrow. If you are at a church, then most likely Merry Christmas would be different than if you were at store. Even people who belong to a religion without winter holidays would most likely understand and appreciate Happy Holidays. So overall, I know some may cling to Merry Christmas, but I think Happy Holidays is more generic and could possibly be better language for someone if you don't know if they celebrate Christmas.

This is not a generic holiday. It is celebrating the birth of Christ along with billions of people around the world.

nelie
12-06-2011, 08:20 AM
This is not a generic holiday. It is celebrating the birth of Christ along with billions of people around the world.

Christmas isn't the only winter holiday though and my point was that people may want to express holiday greetings to those that may not be Christian, may not celebrate Christmas or may even have their own holiday celebrations around Christmas time. I wouldn't say Merry Christmas to a Hindu but maybe others would, for example.

And I wanted to add, the idea seems to be embracing the fact that others may have different winter holiday traditions rather than imposing your own traditions on them. That is why I think an all-encompassing greeting sounds like a nice thing to do.

theox
12-06-2011, 08:56 AM
Christmas isn't the only winter holiday though and my point was that people may want to express holiday greetings to those that may not be Christian, may not celebrate Christmas or may even have their own holiday celebrations around Christmas time. I wouldn't say Merry Christmas to a Hindu but maybe others would, for example.

And I wanted to add, the idea seems to be embracing the fact that others may have different winter holiday traditions rather than imposing your own traditions on them. That is why I think an all-encompassing greeting sounds like a nice thing to do.

It might be a nice thing to do, but I don't think wishing somebody a merry Christmas is imposing one's traditions on them. Ignorant or insensitive? Maybe, although in an area where a majority of the population identifies as Christian, why would (or should) people worry about the possibility of unintentionally offending the religious sensibilities of the non-Christian minority? It would be like telling people in (American) football country that they should avoid using terms that are specific to the sport they care about because it might offend the few soccer or rugby fans floating around. People who get offended about friendly sentiments clothed in words they don't like will probably just lose the friendly sentiments. An imposition in any meaningful sense of the word? Hardly. And when some people say "Merry Christmas," they really are referring to a specific religious event, not just expressing general good feelings for anybody who might happen to celebrate something around the same time (or not).

nelie
12-06-2011, 09:09 AM
It might be a nice thing to do, but I don't think wishing somebody a merry Christmas is imposing one's traditions on them. Ignorant or insensitive? Maybe, although in an area where a majority of the population identifies as Christian, why would (or should) people worry about the possibility of unintentionally offending the religious sensibilities of the non-Christian minority? It would be like telling people in (American) football country that they should avoid using terms that are specific to the sport they care about because it might offend the few soccer or rugby fans floating around. People who get offended about friendly sentiments clothed in words they don't like will probably just lose the friendly sentiments. An imposition in any meaningful sense of the word? Hardly. And when some people say "Merry Christmas," they really are referring to a specific religious event, not just expressing general good feelings for anybody who might happen to celebrate something around the same time (or not).

Honestly, I would say it is insensitive if you are saying that the majority shouldn't care about the feelings of the minority. I said above that I've known quite a few people who have had bad experiences with Christians in the past and feel as if others do try to impose their beliefs on them.

I do feel that Christmas has turned into a secular holiday and you do find many non-Christians celebrating it in their own way. So Merry Christmas to me means a general Happy Winter Holidays type greeting. For others, they may feel that it isn't inclusive of their traditions, especially for things like city/government sponsored events.

I guess for me, I feel it is important to use all-inclusive language. I live in a diverse area and I work in a job with people of all different backgrounds.

GlamourGirl827
12-06-2011, 10:59 AM
This is not a generic holiday. It is celebrating the birth of Christ along with billions of people around the world.

^this^ Is why we have issues this time of year. I know someone said it, but I have to ask where bargoo are you living that you don't know that other people of other religions are celebrating holidays besides Christmas? I'm 30 years old, but I remember in grade school understanding that some of the kids celebrated Hanukkah and the winter is a generic holiday season.

With in this winter holiday season, lives the many specific holidays that people celebrate. While this time of year is mostly focused on the Christian roots, it does not give people the right to disreguard other people's beliefs and traditions. This time of year is not about celebrating the birth of Christ for everyone. Heck, there are plenty of people that celebrate Christmas, and don't even believe all the Jesus stuff. You might not like that, but as my step mother says, "it is what it is."
Having said that, I see nothing wrong with saying Merry Christmas, if your intentions are good. I was raised Catholic so I tend to say Merry Christmas, but I say Happy Holidays as well. To me, anything said with warmth and good wishes is what matters. And anyone that says "Merry Christmas" with an agenda of saying it to prove that they can. Like its not meant warmly, but rather as their part in the "war on Christmas" and that's their way of "defending" their belief....well, then they have lost the real meaning of Christmas. If they are saying it with anger or bitterness in their heart, then they need to do a little soul searching, as far as I'm concerned.

Whatever you say to others, as long as its meant with kindness, that's all that should matter. :)

bargoo
12-06-2011, 11:04 AM
I fully understand there are other holidays during the month of December.

loose seal
12-06-2011, 12:39 PM
This is one of my most favorite things about Christmas. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZoZwdesumY

bargoo
12-06-2011, 01:06 PM
This is one of my most favorite things about Christmas. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZoZwdesumY

Beautiful, thank you.

loose seal
12-06-2011, 03:13 PM
Beautiful, thank you.

Isn't it though?

You're welcome.

shcirerf
12-06-2011, 04:16 PM
I like Christmas. I like eggnog, dressing up for parties, presents, Christmas eve services, silly traditions, like the traveling box of chocolate covered cherries. Long story. Seeing people that come home for the holiday. Spending time with family, (most of them anyway);)

And I always say Merry Christmas.

:snowglo::candy::shocksn::han::coolsnow::present:: santa::hohoho::elf::brr::mrsclaus::xcheer::gift2:: wreath::snow4::snowfight:rudolph::dreidel::tree::g inger::snowball1:stardav::snowball::clause:

I like smileys too! :D

theox
12-06-2011, 05:18 PM
Honestly, I would say it is insensitive if you are saying that the majority shouldn't care about the feelings of the minority. I said above that I've known quite a few people who have had bad experiences with Christians in the past and feel as if others do try to impose their beliefs on them.

I do feel that Christmas has turned into a secular holiday and you do find many non-Christians celebrating it in their own way. So Merry Christmas to me means a general Happy Winter Holidays type greeting. For others, they may feel that it isn't inclusive of their traditions, especially for things like city/government sponsored events.

I guess for me, I feel it is important to use all-inclusive language. I live in a diverse area and I work in a job with people of all different backgrounds.

I don't think anybody's required to care about the feelings of anybody else, no matter what group they're part of. I think that it's usually nice, and often (but not always) makes things run smoother and makes communities better places to live when individuals demonstrate consideration for each other's thoughts and feelings, but it's not obligatory.

People are responsible for their own feelings. If something as inherently harmless as an innocently given wish for a celebration for a religion or holiday someone doesn't participate in upsets that person or makes him/her feel like s/he's somehow been coerced into participating in the religion or holiday referenced, I think that the issue is the offended individual's. If a person becomes upset at being wished Merry Christmas it probably is good for that individual to let people know that it bothers him/her as an individual (unless, perhaps, it's from a stranger s/he'll never see again). However, taking offense at "Merry Christmas" is not a universal response of non-Christians (even among those who have experienced discrimination, bullying, or outright (and sometimes illegal) coercion in the name of Christ), and they don't necessarily need or want others pandering to what their feelings are assumed to be.

I really don't care what people say (as far as holiday greetings, at any rate) as long as they seem sincere in whatever sentiment they are trying to express. Like a lot of other people, I tend to use the terms interchangeably - when I think to use them at all.If somebody I actually knew (i.e., not crazy people who think the check-out line at the grocery store is Speaker's Corner) stated a preference to me, I'd certainly try to remember to oblige them. However, I'd probably actually be mildly annoyed if I found out that a person had taken it upon him/herself to go out of his/her way to tell me "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" because s/he knew or suspected that I was not a Christian and thought that I was so fragile or so easily offended that I needed special treatment. A commendable attempt at being considerate, certainly, but pretty patronizing all the same.

I also think a little common sense can be applied to determine if a particular instance of "Merry Christmas" in the public sphere can reasonably be construed as a reference to the religious observance or if it's a reference to the secular celebration. Kind of like determining whether prayers at public events in the US are violations of the First Amendment or specimens of that oddest of creatures, ceremonial deism.

My area probably isn't as diverse as yours, although it's certainly more diverse than first meets the eye. There is a large Christian majority and a significant non-Christian minority, which appears to be comprised largely of people who recognize that they live in a place in which Christianity (as it has been practiced here) has had a pervasive influence on the social and cultural fabric of the state, and who like the secular aspects of Christmas or don't care much either way. At least where I'm at, most people don't seem that likely to take offense at something like "Merry Christmas" if the person saying it wouldn't have any way of knowing that they're not Christian. To my way of thinking, it's a waste of time and energy to try to avoid offending people when the vast majority of them wouldn't be offended anyway. And if the occasional person does get offended by somebody's unintentional actions? They can say how they want to be spoken to (or not) and choose to get over it (or not). It's not the end of the world or anybody's choice but theirs.

ETA: nelie, I want you to know that this discussion (my part of it, at least) isn't intended as any sort of personal attack. I just enjoy being able to have a back-and-forth discussion/debate with people.

bargoo
12-06-2011, 05:43 PM
, like the traveling box of chocolate covered cherries. ) :D

I grew up in a small town in Southern Minnesota. During the Christmas Season at the school I attended we drew names to give each other a small Christmas present.Everybody, and I mean everybody bought the other person a box of Chocolate Covered Cherries.We might of well just purchased a box for ourselves because we all got the same thing. I guess we thought Chocolate Covered Cherries were really an exotic gift to give. Frankly I don't like them that much, too sweet.

rachaelm
12-06-2011, 05:52 PM
I love the Christmas season.

So many of you have already posted the same reasons that make me so happy. Family time, baking/cooking, finding the "perfect" gift, Christmas music.

I LOVE IT!! It is a really happy time of year for me.

bargoo
12-06-2011, 07:33 PM
Some of the things I like are from childhood. Growing up in Minnesota, we always hoped for a White Chrsitmas. I loved making snow angels, making snow men, even having snow ball fights, ice skating, toboganning, coming in from the cold to have hot chocolate. I now live in California so I don't get to do those things, but I am really only a short distance from the Ski Resorts in Northern California and Nevada.

EZMONEY
12-06-2011, 08:15 PM
I get a lot of "free" Christmas cards every year from people wanting donations. I save them. This year I counted them and we have over 50, so I told Angie to send all of those this year!

She did...

Awesome job of recycle!

theox
12-06-2011, 08:41 PM
I grew up in a small town in Southern Minnesota. During the Christmas Season at the school I attended we drew names to give each other a small Christmas present.Everybody, and I mean everybody bought the other person a box of Chocolate Covered Cherries.We might of well just purchased a box for ourselves because we all got the same thing. I guess we thought Chocolate Covered Cherries were really an exotic gift to give. Frankly I don't like them that much, too sweet.

LOL.

melodymist
12-07-2011, 03:29 AM
- Christmas lights!!
- Family time.
- Giving to the people I love.

There's just something about christmas that makes me feel home :)

EZMONEY
12-07-2011, 07:33 AM
BARGOO, after reading your post I remembered that I got a box of chocolate filled cherries in the 3rd grade gift exchange. I was a little bit bummed out, candy?...I wanted a toy!! But after my mom convinced me what a nice gift it was I was happy....

moms are great aren't they!!

After I was old enough to have money of my own I would often buy those candies, especially around this time of year. I also know there are some "knock-off" brands that aren't that tasty!

ANOther
12-07-2011, 09:20 PM
If you want to have a higher Jesus-to-Santa ratio in your Christmas celebrations, fine, do so in your own family and with like-minded friends, and don't worry about those who prefer a more secular or outright materialistic celebration. That's their business, or their problem, however you define

theox
12-07-2011, 09:27 PM
Speaking of seasonal foods, eggnog is another thing I like about Christmas, even though one or two servings are enough for me for a year.

EZMONEY
12-07-2011, 10:06 PM
I'm with you THEOX. A friend of mine always brought eggnog around Christmas time, since we were teen-agers. My dad always had a glass but for me just a taste each year. He doesn't live in my state anymore but I talked to him this week-end, asked if he already had his eggnog....he did! :D

Last night a lady came up to my door just as I was heading to bed. She spent about 15 minutes at my door, just thanking me for putting up the decorations I do each year. She said she lived around the corner 10 years ago and just moved back...she said she came by just to see if I still did what I do. Very sweet :) I shared a little Gospel with her and she just might be visiting my church, with me, instead of the one she attends now.

I will see if I can get the pictures loaded here a little later of our house decorations.

The celebrations at my house include both church attending Christians, those that don't and non-believers. For me and most of my immediate family Christmas time is more religious in the celebration of Christ's birth with a little Santa Claus over-lap. With some of my family and friends Christmas is mostly a Santa Claus Christmas. We have a great time together. While some of us are at church, the others are here at my house visiting on Christmas Eve. Been doing that for 20+ years of Christmas Eve's :xcheer:

EZMONEY
12-07-2011, 10:33 PM
Below is the link to the pictures of our decorations this year, some from Thanksgiving are there too. The first picture is of our church service last Christmas Eve. We added 2 new nativity scenes this year :)

It is on a slideshow....


http://s1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff439/GLM227/Thanksgiving%20and%20Christmas%202011/?albumview=slideshow

theox
12-08-2011, 08:30 AM
That's a nice lights display, Gary. You've got some neat Christmas figurines, too. How long have you been collecting nativity sets?

bargoo
12-08-2011, 09:06 AM
Gary, thanks for sharing your pictures, the decorations are beautiful. You know the reason for the season .

stellarwbz
12-08-2011, 09:08 AM
Likes- Family all coming together, celebrating the birth of my savior
Dislikes- people forgetting what Christmas really means

ANOther
12-08-2011, 01:03 PM
Speaking of seasonal foods, eggnog is another thing I like about Christmas, even though one or two servings are enough for me for a year.

I like Silk soy nog, that's only about 90 calories a glass. Also this year, I got some powdered egg nog from Vermont Country Store, what I think I'll try is whipping it up in a blender with vanilla kefir or vanilla Stonyfield Super Smoothie (which I love on their own, I love the combination of yogurt bite with vanilla sweet)

Beach Patrol
12-08-2011, 01:37 PM
I generally don't like xmas. That's right, I'm a mean one, Mr. Grinch! :rofl:

I used to LOVE xmas. Used to love it for all it was worth. Everything about it... decorating, wrapping presents, watching xmas shows/movies, listening to xmas music. I even wore xmas sweaters!!! :o Heh.

Candy canes!
Chocolate covered cherries!
Little Debbie Xmas Tree Cakes!!!! OH MY!!!!
Eggnog... yummmm....
Xmas cards, xmas parties, all good!!!!


Then back in 1997 I got "radically saved" - became a die-hard xtian. At that point, xmas became even MORE special to me. I loved it for the CHRIST part of it as well, not just the other "side stuff".

THEN IT ALL WENT TO ...HADES!!!! I became an ex-xtian (for many reasons of which I will not go into here) and that part of loving xmas went as quickly as it came.

And... after years & years & YEARS of what I term "Xmas Abuse" - I have learned to dislike xmas altogether. The greed. The commercialism. Black Friday. Xmas decorations in stores before Halloween candy went stale. The endless POINTLESS xmas movies that come out year after year after year (that lack the "true love" meaning behind xmas) - ETC ETC ETC!~
It broke my heart. It took xmas away from me! :(

Now I am a pantheist. I do still sometimes decorate. But that's more for winter solstice, & has little to do with xmas at all. Mostly I like the pretty lights. Which, yes, I'm one of those who like to leave them up year round, whereas I used to hate when people did that! :D

But one thing I DO STILL ENJOY is the xmas cartoons (Grinch, Charlie Brown, Rudolph, etc.) and the movies of yesteryear (Wonderful Life, Miracle on 34th Street (the original, not that over-done modern day crap) and a few modern (tho not new!) ones such as Christmas Vacation, Scrooged, and my most recent fav, BAD SANTA. :devil:

AND I do still listen to SOME xmas music - specifically Trans-Siberian Orchestra. In fact, I was just listening to them this morning - it's just truly WONDERFUL music! and I'll always love "Linus & Lucy" - better known as the Charlie Brown theme!!!! - which is not REALLY "xmas" music, but I always liken it to xmas, so ... in the spirit... here ya go!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQybajU2GNk&feature=related

EZMONEY
12-08-2011, 09:02 PM
That's a nice lights display, Gary. You've got some neat Christmas figurines, too. How long have you been collecting nativity sets?

Not that long THEOX. The one in pic 6 I have had for many years, in pic 7 the one on the right and left we bought this year. Angie and I have been adding one a year, the one on the right we bought first then the one on the left came by way of a group selling them at our church. The wood is olive tree from Jerusalem and hand carved. Profits going to help spread Christianity there.

Gary, thanks for sharing your pictures, the decorations are beautiful. You know the reason for the season .

Yes "WE" do! :hug:

Likes- Family all coming together, celebrating the birth of my savior
Dislikes- people forgetting what Christmas really means

STELLARWBZ, I used to feel that way too. As I get older I realize not everyone will take the free gift but at this time of year people helping people, sharing, spreading love and joy are things that Jesus wants us to do. Sometimes we just need to "stay" in His love and not worry about the other "stuff"...:hug:

I like Silk soy nog, that's only about 90 calories a glass. Also this year, I got some powdered egg nog from Vermont Country Store, what I think I'll try is whipping it up in a blender with vanilla kefir or vanilla Stonyfield Super Smoothie (which I love on their own, I love the combination of yogurt bite with vanilla sweet)

Now this might be something my dear wife would like! :)

EZMONEY
12-08-2011, 09:07 PM
BEACH PATROL I am sorry you had a bad experience with your walk :hug:

If at any time you want to "talk" by way of PM feel free...

on a happier note...

Angie and I love TSO :carrot:

We have been to several of their concerts, are thinking about seeing them in LA this spring...not here this Christmas :( I actually received a preferred seating note today for them...I will probably pass and wait and hope they return here next winter....but....

here is my favorite song by them....

I usually watch the one with the 2 hot blonde's ;) but this is BEAUTIFUL!!

Enjoy....

(PS...worth waiting through the 30 sec. commercial)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cP26ndrmtg

EZMONEY
12-10-2011, 09:43 AM
Angie and I attended her annual teacher's Christmas party last night. Sometimes they are held at a restaurant and sometimes at someones home. Last night was at the home of one of the teachers.

Her teacher friend and her husband are Jewish.

A good time was had by all...

for some a little too good of a time I suppose ;)

Gonna be some :headache: headaches this morning!

jules1216
12-10-2011, 10:12 AM
clementines & cranberries...

GlamourGirl827
12-10-2011, 09:32 PM
Gary, thanks for sharing your pictures, the decorations are beautiful. You know the reason for the season .

The "birth" of Jesus is the purpose of the Christmas holiday. It is not the reason for the season (winter). I used quotes because some people believe the birth of Jesus happened while some people think its a myth. I'm not debating whether its fact or not. But the "reason for the season" has always reminded me of something a group of malicious 4 years olds would think up to taunt a child that isn't like them. Much like "na-na-poo-poo".

Dislike: The self-righteousness that just oozes from some Christians this time of year.

(I know not all Christians are like this, but this time of year its seems the morally smug are the loudest. I'm pretty sure that's frowned upon by Jesus, who's birthday your celebrating...)

sontaikle
12-11-2011, 06:54 AM
I forgot another love/hate thing of mine:

The Christmas songs. I love Christmas songs and I love singing them. When I was in my church choir I had the best time when we went around caroling! In high school I also got a solo during the Christmas concert one year so that was a lot of fun! ;)

I also dislike Christmas songs on the radio sometimes because I think they usually start playing them too early :( sometimes by Christmas I'm tired of hearing them.

bargoo
12-11-2011, 07:21 AM
I will be celebrating Christ's Birth on December 25, with billions of other Christians.
I find it interesting that it is not only a religious holiday but a legal holiday as well. Those who don't believe it is the Birth of Christ will be happy to have the day off. I respect your decision to believe as you wish, whatever it may be and don't criticize you for it as some have done here to Christian believers.

Beach Patrol
12-11-2011, 08:55 AM
I will be celebrating Christ's Birth on December 25, with billions of other Christians.
I find it interesting that it is not only a religious holiday but a legal holiday as well. Those who don't believe it is the Birth of Christ will be happy to have the day off. I respect your decision to believe as you wish, whatever it may be and don't criticize you for it as some have done here to Christian believers.

Hanukkah is a "religious holiday" and also a "legal" holiday as well. It's an eight-day Jewish holiday commemorating the re-dedication of the Holy Temple (the Second Temple) in Jerusalem at the time of the Maccabean Revolt of the 2nd century BCE.

St. Patrick's Day is also a religious AND legal holiday. It commemorates Saint Patrick (c. AD 387461), the most commonly recognized of the patron saints of Ireland, and the arrival of Christianity in Ireland.

Of course, not everyone has xmas day "off" work. Many many people work on xmas day. I would think that most people are very happy to have a day off regardless of the day. I know I am.

I respect your beliefs regarding xtianity, seeing as how I used to be a believer myself. I realize some people disrespect believers, as well as some believers disrespect non-believers, or believers of other faiths/dieties/ideologies.

The fact is, we live in a great big wide-open world. Not everyone is lucky enough to live in a country where you're free to believe & worship as you please. I find that sad.

What I find annoying is how people in the U.S. tend to get bent out of shape over the separation of church/state. I myself have witnessed first hand some xtians who get insanely angry over something as simple as the "merry xmas" vs the "happy holidays" greeting. Why would it matter whether or not the xmas manger scene is displayed on a gov't property? Why would it matter that the 10 commandments are taken out of a courthouse, or that an atheist doesn't want to "swear on a bible" when taking oath at a trial? The whole idea of separation of church & state means this shouldn't even be an issue.

No one has ever said that a person cannot celebrate xmas in their own home, in their private lives. There is no law stating that xtians cannot celebrate xmas. And of course there shouldn't be. This is America. Separation of church & state is supposed to go both ways - to protect the state from religion, and to protect the religious rights of its people. But more & more the right wing people are starting to shove their religion onto others. Xtians are the only religious people that try to "save" the heathens. You'll never see a Jewish person or an atheist going door to door trying to gain more "believers". Jewish people don't go around inviting people of other faiths to their synagogue. I think it's great that anyone has a deity they worship and adore and believe in no matter what life throws their way. But not everyone does. Unfortunately, xtians are the only ones who cannot seem to accept that.

And while we've had president after president after president of xtian faith -albeit different denominations - in office, I bet this country would flip out if a Jewish or atheist were ever voted into office. Just look at how many xtians freaked over Obama's election, because they believe he's muslim. A person's religion should not be considered when voting on our highest elected leader, but there are many people who would vote for a xtian they didn't agree with rather than an atheist they agreed with in theory.

I wish you peace during your "religious/legal" holiday season. :smug:

EZMONEY
12-11-2011, 09:55 AM
We had our Christmas Progressive Dinner at church last night. We started with appetizers at a gorgeous, huge, home. What a nice view! Then back to church for some to attend Saturday night service, while others stayed at the appetizer course.

After church we all went into the new gym for a dinner of prime rib, lemon chicken or vegan/vegetarian. Awesome food served by the youth in our church.

Plenty of door and raffle prizes. I won a bottle of wine and an oven rack...which was cool as Angie is always saying the only rack in our house isn't big enough to hold cornish game hens ;)

Entertainment was about 20 middle school kids that perform in a "glee" type club. They were so cute, funny and talented! We will have them back again.

Then off to the dessert course for a lot of goodies that I stayed away from...was getting my calories a plenty from the wine :)

Other than having to pick up, twice, a 73 year old lady off the floor (she has Muscular Dystrophy and beginning Alzheimer's) a fun time was had by all :carrot:

omgzitsmiranda
12-11-2011, 10:15 AM
I personally enjoy the holiday season(s). I like the smells of baking goods in the oven [even if I don't eat any of it], I enjoy the sense of being together & just enjoying each other's company.

I like decorating a LOT lol. But we're the ONLY people on our ENTIRE street with any lights up, any decorations, even just a wreath! It breaks my heart :(

nelie
12-11-2011, 10:25 AM
I was reading something interesting recently which said that the Day of the Dead is the fastest growing holiday in the United States. I come from a Mexican family that never celebrated it because not all Mexicans do, at least not all Mexican-Americans. The funny thing is I had some cousins posting this year about it and I've always appreciated the artistry surrounding it. People like holidays which is one reason you see many non-Christians celebrating at least winter time and possibly decorating their house, opening presents on Christmas, etc.

I'm still hoping for a smooth flight to visit my family. We don't really do presents or at least we try not to. I'll inevitably get a few small trinkets from a couple people.

enpointe12
12-11-2011, 11:01 AM
I don't celebrate christmas, but I love the christmas spirit in the air - every one just seems so happy and festive!

Alwaysbeenbig
12-11-2011, 10:30 PM
I am not a fan of christmas. The reason: it is one of the few days of the year I am guaranteed not to work and I have to spend a heap of money and time participating in something that really has not particular interest or significants to me. In saying that, if christmas is your thing, go for it.

EZMONEY
12-11-2011, 10:46 PM
I am only speaking for myself here in response to some of the posts :)

When I, as a christian, say "Jesus Is The Reason For The Season" it is just a reminder for all that believe to "focus" on why we celebrate the birth of Christ.

It is not meant to offend those that don't believe.

For believers Jesus is the reason for ALL seasons! W/o Him we have zero seasons or purpose in life.

In response about Jewish people not "door knocking" ...this is very true. The Jewish religion does not go out and "convert"...they do allow it though under certain circumstances. Jewish people do not believe their religion is for ALL people. Christians believe Christianity is for ALL who believe in Christ as their Savior..all sinners and races alike...for those that repent and believe in Christ and what he has done.

As a Christian it really matters very little if one celebrates Hanukkah, Day of The Dead, Kwanzaa or any other celebration during winter or anytime for that matter...these things mean nothing to me.

If someone wants to celebrate Christmas "Santa Claus style" w/o remembering the birth of Christ then fine for them. I, as I have mentioned, have an overlap of Santa Claus Christmas in my life but it will mean nothing for my eternity....oh but the birth of the Christ child will! :carrot:

As I end this my family is trying to find the right evening for a family get together for ALL during this season of LOVE....and that is a good thing :)

EZMONEY
12-13-2011, 09:48 PM
Today at work I was in the same room as a job friend of mine. I asked him about his Christmas plans and he just went off telling my how he hates this time of year. His wife spending a lot of money on the grandkids and kids that isn't necessary. His wife and son in law getting into a fight because she buys too much and competes with her daughter for the best buyer of toys.

Pretty sad :(

After I got home from work, while I was putting the trash out, a neighbor lady, that can see my house from hers, walked by with her dog and thanked me for my decorations and said she had a Bible study at her house the day before and the ladies all loved the view of my house from hers.

Now that was a good thing :)

Then a lady that goes to my church came running by with her 6 year old twins....stopping to pet my dogs and telling me how excited they were for Santa Claus to come and that they were baking cookies for him and baby Jesus....( mom whispering to me she doesn't need to eat all those cookies! :D )

Now that's another good thing :)

shcirerf
12-14-2011, 12:19 AM
I like Christmas.

I like the traditions. I like the smell of ginger bread and sugar cookies and popcorn balls. I love decorating the tree. I love saying "Merry Christmas" to clients, friends, family and wishing them all a happy new year.

I like church on Christmas Eve.

But mostly I like the fact, that my side of the family, works together to celebrate, maybe not on the "day", but we work it out so we have the whole day to spend together. All of us are busy, with several folks who have jobs that involve being on call.

We reserve this time to be together. With the large and extended family, just on my side, this celebration is sacred! We don't care about your religious sexual, political or whatever preference, just show up and have fun, and enjoy the family time. We bring $5 gifts and play robber bingo, for gifts and then play charades or bingo or some other silly game. Lots of fun.

Unfortunately, my husbands side of the family, is not as forgiving, or accepting. They are in a snit this year due to lots of family crisis, and don't even want to do anything.

Stopping here, before I go on a major rant.

Merry Christmas!

Justwant2Bhealthy
12-14-2011, 01:05 AM
:wreath: Well GARY, likes & dislikes about Christmas ...

:candy: I love most everything about Christmas itself -- the spirit of giving, love, peace, joy, and goodwill towards men. I like the music & carols & great Christmas stories (including movies). You can feel how the spirit of Christmas makes many people more cheery & helpful & giving at this time of year.

We try to share the many blessings we have received with others. DH and I give all year round, and to many different sources but we give at this time of year too. We look for small gifts that people really like or need, whenever we can; and we limit the price too (just like your family does).

:rudolph: We decorate and hang up some pretty lights; and we have a lovely pine tree that DH found one year (many people think it's real). We put out our home-made Nativity Creche -- DH made the Creche, and I made Mary & Joseph; and some friends helped with it too, even donating the baby Jesus (bless their hearts).

:ginger: We have a nice dinner and share with friends each year; used to be with family but they all live far away now (so I send cards and small gifts to my parents). I don't bake like I used to (trying to watch), but we do serve some snacks like a variety of nuts & cheeses, along with olives, meat & crackers; snack mix, and light shortbread & gingerbread men, etc.)

I like it that even non-Christians celebrate the season with us; any time there is more love and joy in the air, the world is a better place for it ...

:tree: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!! :tree:

EZMONEY
12-14-2011, 09:31 PM
The lyrics to this song seems to fit our thread here....:hug:



The Christians and the Pagans
------Dar Williams


Amber called her uncle, said "We're up here for the holiday,
Jane and I were having Solstice, now we need a place to stay."
And her Christ-loving uncle watched his wife hang Mary on a tree,
He watched his son hang candy canes all made with red dye number three.
He told his niece, "It's Christmas Eve, I know our life is not your style,"
She said, "Christmas is like Solstice, and we miss you and its been awhile,"

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table,
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able,
And just before the meal was served, hands were held and prayers were said,
Sending hope for peace on earth to all their gods and goddesses.

The food was great, the tree plugged in, the meal had gone without a hitch,
Till Timmy turned to Amber and said, "Is it true that you're a witch?"
His mom jumped up and said, "The pies are burning," and she hit the kitchen,
And it was Jane who spoke, she said, "It's true, your cousin's not a Christian,"
"But we love trees, we love the snow, the friends we have, the world we share,
And you find magic from your God, and we find magic everywhere."

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table,
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able,
And where does magic come from? I think magic's in the learning,
'Cause now when Christians sit with Pagans only pumpkin pies are burning.

When Amber tried to do the dishes, her aunt said, "Really, no, don't bother."
Amber's uncle saw how Amber looked like Tim and like her father.
He thought about his brother, how they hadn't spoken in a year,
He thought he'd call him up and say, "It's Christmas and your daughter's here."
He thought of fathers, sons and brothers, saw his own son tug his sleeve, saying,
"Can I be a Pagan?" Dad said, "We'll discuss it when they leave."

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table,
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able,
Lighting trees in darkness, learning new ways from the old, and
Making sense of history and drawing warmth out of the cold.

EZMONEY
12-14-2011, 09:37 PM
I was able to stop by the grocery on the way home and pick up some turkeys and hams and gift card for the baskets my church will hand out this week-end....

that's a good thing :)

I am blessed :)

that's a good thing :)

As I went over to the church office to tell our secretary I put the goodies in the kitchen, and give her the family assistance gift card, I noticed a sign on the door....

"we are unable to take anymore requests for baskets at this time" :(

So many in need this year :(

May God richly bless you and yours :hug:

Beach Patrol
12-15-2011, 12:40 PM
The lyrics to this song seems to fit our thread here....:hug:



The Christians and the Pagans
------Dar Williams



Interesting that you posted that EZ! - I was just explaining to a friend of mine the similarities of celebrations between Xtians & pagans. I think a lot of Xtians don't know or realize that many of their Xmas celebration traditions are rooted in pagan tradition. For instance, the Winter Solstice -

Winter Solstice (celebrated on or around December 21)
which is also called Yule, Jul, Saturnalia, Christmas, solar/secular New Year
Colors: red, green, white
Decorations/tools: mistletoe, evergreen wreath, lights, gifts, holly, Yule log, Yule tree
Energy: regeneration & renewal
Rituals: personal renewal, world peace, honoring family & friends
Customs: wreaths, holly, mistletoe, lights, gift-giving, singing, feasting, resolutions

Also, the Xtian "Easter" celebration (and the St. Patrick's celebration) is in tune with Spring Equinox which includes:

Dates: around March 21
Colors: green, yellow
Tools: eggs, basket, green clothes
Energy: birthing, sprouting, greening
Rituals: breakthrough, new growth, new projects, seed blessings
Customs: wearing green, egg games, new clothes, egg baskets


I find it very interesting all the similarities and differences between religions, and I enjoy learning about them as well. When I was in college, I took a course called "Philosophy of Eastern Religion" which was a quick study on Buddhism, Hinduism, and a few other eastern religions, in contrast and comparison to western religions. It's truly a fascinating subject! :D

bargoo
12-15-2011, 01:36 PM
Celine Dion's rendition of "O Holy Night" is awesome.

Beach Patrol
12-15-2011, 03:17 PM
Celine Dion's rendition of "O Holy Night" is awesome.

OH! my fav of that song is Mariah Carey - she totally nails it!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv1ch03MP3k

Beach Patrol
12-15-2011, 03:35 PM
Oh, Oh OH!
and Whitney Houston's version of Do You Hear What I Hear.... awesome!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1bS_ejPmbs

Beach Patrol
12-15-2011, 03:41 PM
And ....OH!

Mannheim Steamroller - Stille Nacht (Silent Night)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwlFOx12Nzs

I remember the first time I heard it... I was driving on a winding country road, not another soul in sight, and there was a little bit of snow on the ground, and the night was deep & the stars were so bright... and this song came on, and I just pulled over & listened to it. Beautiful.

Beach Patrol
12-15-2011, 03:58 PM
Out of all the xmas music on the planet, my most fav is Trans-Siberian Orchestra! - if you've never heard them, I highly recommend you do! Their xmas albums are awesome - they tell a story, and there's even a DVD of one of them (that I'm aware of) - and I would SOOOO love to see them in concert!!!

An Angel Came Down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J-dKz9cs84&feature=related

Christmas Canon Rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQNirj6lbGY

Carol of the Bells
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCabI3MdV9g

EZMONEY
12-15-2011, 11:12 PM
I love Celine Dion's O' Holy Night BARGOO :hug:

BEACH PATROL the TSO Christmas Canon Rock and Manheimm Steamroller Silent Nacht are also 2 of my most favorites :carrot:

I have seen them both in concert several times! Awesome!

If you ever get the chance see TSO but take earplugs!! :D You don't need to sit close!! Every time we see them we sit farther back ;)

Mannheim is a lovely...tea and coffee, relaxing in the recliners....TSO is rockin'...rockin'...rockin!!!!

Both awesome but so different in concert.

ArtyKay
12-16-2011, 05:21 AM
I'm a Messianic Jew, and my family made a group decision when i was very young not to celebrate Christmas. This will be my second year of celebrating it with my in-laws, and I mainly do it for my husband's sake....I've yet to buy a Christmas tree or anything, and we don't really celebrate it in our house, but we do have a big family Christmas get together at the end of the month.

LIKES

Festive feel of it all

Family get togethers, for the most part

making candies and other baked goodies

Being a part of something, even if I don't fully understand it.

I have some fond memories of Christmas from my childhood, and look forward to my future kids having good memories too!

DISLIKES

It makes me feel like an outsider

All the Facebook posts, especially the ones my in-laws post...along the lines of "I urge you all to ban the term Happy Holidays, and celebrate the true reason for the season...Merry CHRISTmas!!!" I mean, I get why some religious people don't like X-mas, but the holidays are for everybody. When they word it like that it hurts my heart, because I feel like its partially directed at me since there has been quite a bit of conflict over my difference in religion.

It doesn't have the depth and meaning for me that Hanukkah does. I just don't feel a spiritual connection to Christmas.

Feeling pressured to buy presents for everybody

bargoo
12-16-2011, 07:02 AM
ArtyKay when I wish you Merry Christmas I simply mean that I hope that you have a happy holiday season and a wonderful future.

ArtyKay
12-16-2011, 09:21 AM
ArtyKay when I wish you Merry Christmas I simply mean that I hope that you have a happy holiday season and a wonderful future.

:hug:

I just wish more people were open minded. Its not easy being different in Texas.

bargoo
12-16-2011, 09:43 AM
:hug:

I just wish more people were open minded. Its not easy being different in Texas.

I know I have visited Texas !

EZMONEY
12-17-2011, 07:14 AM
Tonight my son/dil/GRANDdaughter, my daughter/GRANDKID (identity unknown ;)) my nephew and my brother/sil will be coming over for dinner.

The kidnapper will be staying behind to paint my daughter and future GRANDchild's bedrooms.....

Rest of the family off to other Christmas goings on. We had planned to do a progressive dinner but decided to just have it here since all those that can't make it are bummed out and want us to wait and do another so all can attend. That's :cool:

Mexican food...I will make cheese enchiladas, Angie will make butternut squash enchiladas and I am pretty sure I am going to make spinach and bean enchiladas too....if I have time.

My guys at work are all ready getting excited about Christmas.....grown men getting a bit giddy....fun stuff :)

EZMONEY
12-17-2011, 07:21 AM
Being a Christian there is a couple of things I am positive of about this time of year...

I cannot out-gift the gift that was given to me....

and

When wishing someone a MERRY CHRISTmas it needs to be as an invitation with :val1: love and not a :mad: demand :mad: to choose your way or the highway....

Enjoy your family and friends this holiday season :hug:

Italiannie
12-17-2011, 07:55 AM
Best things about Christmas:
Jesus, of course!
Family and Tradition
Catching up with people and renewing relationships
Singing familiar Carrolls
Christmas Lights and the smell of pine in the air
Nostalgia and watching children build their memories
Reliving part of our family's Italian heritage

Worst thing about Christmas:
That people forget the "Best things about Christmas"

sontaikle
12-21-2011, 09:00 AM
Does anyone else really enjoy giving gifts?

Yesterday I went around to some of the teachers I work with and gave them all little gifts. I couldn't afford much, but it's easy to work with what you have :)

I went to the dollar store, bought some beautiful mugs, got some toblerone chocolates and made a wonderful little assortment in each mug before wrapping it up in cellophane and tied it with a ribbon. Each one didn't cost me much, but I wanted to do something nice for all of the teachers that have had to put up with me pulling students from their class (LOL sorry everyone). They all loved it and some of them even said that it made their day :) I wanted to do more, but I'm still paying off my student loans and all that.

But still, it was great to see that they all loved the gifts and they were all surprised. I probably won't get anything in return, but that's ok. It was nice enough to see that a little gift brightened up their day.

bargoo
12-21-2011, 09:20 AM
sontaikle, you have the Christmas spirit. You have some great ideas....thanks for remindng me of Toblerone, I know someone who would enjoy that. Merry Christmas !

EZMONEY
12-21-2011, 07:25 PM
What the "season" is all about sontaikle.....

My niece makes really cool Christmas cups filled with the stuff to make a small cake in the mug...just add milk. She sells tons of them for $5 each at the craft shows. Anyone wants to know how PM me and I will send you her blog info...she has all kinds of crafty things one can make.

Speaking of giving gone bad....many years ago, about 20, right after my ex-wife had left, my kids and I were in my truck listening to the radio this time of year. There was a special on every day where people would ask for things they needed at Christmas and others would call in and play Santa, all off the air. DJ's would announce the requests. Anyway, my daughter heard one that touched her about a lady and a child that needed rent money. She asked me if I could help her. Well, I was broke at the time, in a recession and w/o wife's income and having a hard time paying our own mortgage.

Anyway, I called in to see what I could do to help her. The station gave me her number and I called her. Well the rent was way more than I could afford but I told her I could give her $100 towards the payment and pray that someone else could add to it. Well she got real nasty with me telling me that wouldn't do any good towards her rent, I told her then maybe she could use it for food or something else and she still was nasty towards my "small" gift...which I seriously really couldn't afford.

I sent her the money, she cashed the check...no thank-you... nothing.

I just told my then 7 year old daughter, when she asked, that we helped her pay her rent for the month.

All I know is my daughter was very happy with our giving....

and that was special for me!

EZMONEY
12-25-2011, 09:43 AM
We had a glorious Christmas Eve service at church last night :)

23 of my family and friends came over for our extended family gift exchange and dinner. Angie made split pea and posole while I made chili and a spinach, chicken, wild rice soup. Very yummy all of them.

Have a Merry Christmas Day everyone!

theox
12-25-2011, 11:26 AM
That sounds nice, Gary!

I spent most of the past week visiting my parents. That was nice and relaxing. We exchanged presents on Friday, which was nice and low-key.

To all of you who celebrate it - Merry Christmas!

bargoo
12-25-2011, 01:06 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. I went to a Christmas Eve Service last night, too. This is a service that is always extra special.

124chicksinger
12-25-2011, 01:38 PM
While I put on a good front, Christmas makes me sad for a variety of reasons.

EZMONEY
12-25-2011, 02:44 PM
While I put on a good front, Christmas makes me sad for a variety of reasons.

:hug:

At service last night our Pastor said the station he listens to in the car was playing Christmas songs. He kept hearing Simon and Garfunkels Sounds Of Silence. He thought that was a bit strange since it isn't a Christmas song. Later the DJ came on and said it was one of the most requested songs for the station this time of year :(

It can be a very sad time of year for people. So much pain in the world :( This morning 35 were killed while at a Catholic mass in Nigeria.

So much pain :(

Which brings me to my FB post today....

As we watch, with concern, turmoil in the Middle East, here at home and across the globe, this Christmas morning reaffirms my belief that I can count only on Him for comfort and safety. Happy Birthday Jesus.

EZMONEY
12-26-2011, 07:40 AM
Angie and I celebrated Christmas morning alone as we usually do. Not a sad thing for us. Because we always celebrate Christmas Eve at our home our kids would usually go to their other parent's homes for Christmas morning.

This year my son/dil/granddaughter are in FLA. visiting her folks and my daughter (carrying my future grandchild)/sil(aka...kidnapper) stayed home to enjoy the day by themselves since they had done their "other" side visits earlier.

The kids would always come over in the later afternoon or evening though. Not this year so Angie and I spent the morning walking the dogs at the beach, then breakfast at the beach cafe. The rest of the day we rested :carrot: I loaded old slides into the computer while she sat by me watching a Dr. Who marathon.

For dinner we went to our favorite Mexican joint, spending my Narcizo Bucks :carrot: my niece got me in our gift exchange.

It was a great day...especially when I received a pic on my phone of my GRANDdaughter playing with her new toys in Florida.

My Christmas will extend into next week-end when all my kids get together with us.

I know many were lonely this Christmas. I pray all of you find a "filling" for that loneliness when the day comes next year :hug:

Thank all of you that made this thread last through the "season" possible by sharing your beliefs without being nasty :)

retrogirl
12-26-2011, 10:16 AM
Best
- Spending time with all the family in once place
- Dad cooking too much food and helping him cook. He has left overs forever ;p
- After dinner by the fire
- People are a lot more kind in general

Worst
- Spoiled temper tantrums (WHAT?! No car, just the iphone!!!?) - People absorbed in the GETTING
- People who use the season as an excuse to drive like a rabid baboon. Everyone's stressed, no reason to forget the rules of the road.
- Crowds
- My grocery store (everyone's so rude! I was so shocked to see arguments in the check out lane!)
- Morons who take it upon themselves to drive home drunk. Again, too many accidents using the holiday season as an exuse. So sad.

ShyHeather
01-01-2012, 11:35 PM
Usually I love Christmas but this year, I feel like the Christmas spirit was on vacation. But what I do like about Christmas is:

Christmas lights. People are so creative anymore, and syncing a lot of their lights to music is just so much fun to watch! I am in total awe of how they do it because I for one would never be able to do that.

Celebrating with the family the birth of Jesus, though the specific date is not December 25th...

Spending time with family.

What I dislike about it is the mountain called temptation when the house is full of fudge, cookies, chocolate everything and other sweets. I am weak >.<

EZMONEY
01-02-2012, 02:02 PM
We had our personal family Christmas last night. A great time. Plenty of chicken cacciatore and red wine. All my kids brought bottles of wine to share so we did!

Threw our money in the pot after dinner and decided to give half to my sister for her co-pays as she continues treatments and check-ups. The other half to a girl my step-d went to college with and her ministry in Africa working with young women with AIDS.

My 9 month old GRANDdaughter was overwhelmed with all the packages and toys....but as we all know, she played more with the paper and the boxes as well as a set of colored cups she has here in her toy box.

Good times!

Took the outside lights and Nativity down while Angie took down and packed all the indoor stuff. Her tradition of doing it while the Rose Parade was on.

A little sad to see the house empty but as I checked the house, inside and out, for anything left behind before we loaded it up into the storage, I noticed the cross with Jesus we got one year for Easter. A beautiful glass one, and once again I remembered the gift I will always have.

Until next HOLIDAY SEASON...

Blessings.