Weight Loss Support - My theory on lemon juice and losing 1.9kg (4.1lb) in 4 days.




diegroblers
09-01-2011, 02:26 PM
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Beach Patrol
09-01-2011, 02:31 PM
I don't believe it. (not saying you're lying, I'm just saying I don't believe it's a truth)

If you've lost 4 lb in 4 days, it's because you're losing water weight OR your calorie deficit is fairly extreme.

Not saying you shouldn't do it, either, if that's what you want to do - just offering my opinion. :D

Glory87
09-01-2011, 02:36 PM
Don't you think that if simply adding lemon juice to water resulted in dramatic, provable weight loss - it might make the news?


H82Sweat
09-01-2011, 02:41 PM
lemon juice is a diuretic and laxative

ennay
09-01-2011, 02:49 PM
If I am interpreting correctly you suggest "cheat" day similarity as something that restarted your metabolism?

My guess is the diuretic effect is more the correct hypothesis. Salt is not the only thing that causes the body to have water in it. And it doesnt necessarily mean you had excess water, but that maybe you are now a bit shifted from where you normally are.

Expunge
09-01-2011, 02:49 PM
Your blood cannot be significantly acidic or alkaline relative to normal. The process of homeostasis keeps all of your blood and fluids within most cells within a very specific pH range - otherwise it's a complete disaster. If you had truly acidic blood, you'd be dead.

Also, lemon is not alkaline. Lemon juice has a pH of between 2-3, varying with individual fruits due to citric acid content. Regardless of the pH of lemon juice, all food that's digested is first processed with hydrochloric acid (naturally produced in the stomach, which is a pH of 1 - 2), and then buffered to an appropriate pH for digestion in the rest of the digestive tract.

Anyone who claims blood acidity has anything to do with anything except, say, renal failure and imminent death is quite frankly being ridiculous.

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html

FitGirlyGirl
09-01-2011, 03:27 PM
It is the diuretic effect of the lemon juice that has caused your weight loss. I use lemon juice (though I drink mine straight, not in water) when I know I am holding extra water or on days when my sodium gets a bit high in order to prevent the extra water in the first place. It could be that something other than sodium was causing you to retain water and the lemon juice helped you get rid of it (muscles holding water from working out, some small illness or infection that you didn't even notice, etc.). It could also be that there is some sort of sneaky sodium in your diet (did you change brands of chicken or frozen veggies or anything?). It could also be that you were just having a normal plateau that the body needed and the lemon juice has caused you to have less water than you should because there was no extra there to get rid of.

tkdtara84
09-01-2011, 03:37 PM
Okay-- lemon juice is acidic, NOT alkaline, so...this chick (the one giving the advice, not the OP) has no idea what she's talking about.

That said, the diuretic effect is interesting. I wouldn't be above trying that myself before a big event or something.

nelie
09-01-2011, 03:57 PM
Food combining has been thoroughly debunked and according to this post by a dietician, it was debunked back in 1934!

http://nutritiondiva.quickanddirtytips.com/food-combining-myths.aspx

April Snow
09-01-2011, 04:03 PM
weight loss is not linear and everyone experiences whooshes from time to time. Chances are it was just a coincidence.

H82Sweat
09-01-2011, 04:54 PM
Damn! And here I thought I was onto a good thing! :D

There are no short cuts/instant fixes.

I used to think that really sucked.

I changed my mind when I started looking at the stats which show quite clearly that "crash dieting" results in yo-yo-ing while steady, sustained loss that comes from lifestyle change (eating healthier, exercising more) lasts.

I would rather lose slowly and with effort and learn from it so that my weight stabalizes than lose quickly and have to do it over and over and over...

:D

April Snow
09-01-2011, 06:50 PM
Hey, if you have been consistently working out and eating within your calories, you EARNED that loss. It just didn't show up on the scale when you might have expected it but don't sell yourself short. It was not some magic lemon juice that caused those pounds to go, it was all that hard work and effort that you were putting in - and most importantly, KEPT putting in even when the scale didn't move.

rachluvsu
09-01-2011, 08:08 PM
It was most likely only water weight.

Lemon juice is proven to reduce bloating and water weight so that is probably the case.

H82Sweat
09-01-2011, 08:26 PM
I wasn't exactly looking for a short cut/instant fix.

I work hard for my progress. I eat about 1300 cals a day (and I have to force myself or else I drop below that). And I gym six days a week, 1 - 1 1/2 hours a week. I was just hoping it would help jump start my weight-loss after a plateau. ;)

Edit: I gym six days a week, 1 - 1 1/2 hours a day, not week ;) .

You earned that 4lbs. It wasn't the lemon juice :)

hpnodat
09-01-2011, 11:00 PM
FWIW, when I first "started" my mother always taught me that hot water with lemon gets rid of bloating. I've been doing it for years, it always gets rid of my bloated feeling. :D

ennay
09-02-2011, 12:24 AM
When I lose weight I always gain water right before a big drop. You've been losing the weight all along, you just cleared out some of the water from muscle fatigue and toxin removal. You may see some correction, you might not if you were unusually retaining.

mzKiki
09-02-2011, 04:59 PM
This was suggested by the counselors when I was on LAWL it is a diuretic and basically helps with water weight. But hey 4 lbs is great!

celly123
09-02-2011, 05:33 PM
Okay-- lemon juice is acidic, NOT alkaline, so...this chick (the one giving the advice, not the OP) has no idea what she's talking about.

That said, the diuretic effect is interesting. I wouldn't be above trying that myself before a big event or something.

A lemon itself is acidic in terms of pH, but it has an alkaline effect on the body which is clearly what the advice giver would've been referring to.

So lol, clearly YOU are actually not sure what you're talking about. If you did, you would know that the pH of the food is not always related to the effects the food will have on the body once oxidized.

Expunge
09-02-2011, 10:05 PM
A lemon itself is acidic in terms of pH, but it has an alkaline effect on the body which is clearly what the advice giver would've been referring to.

So lol, clearly YOU are actually not sure what you're talking about. If you did, you would know that the pH of the food is not always related to the effects the food will have on the body once oxidized.

No. That's ridiculous. The ash products affect nothing but the pH of your urine - e.g. they are irrelevant. I'm assuming this alkaline effect on the body nonsense is related to Bronstead-Lowry acid-base theory, where an acid creates a conjugate base in equilibrium.

Citric acid oxidation-reduction reactions are an essential function in the body. Without it, you would die.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid_cycle

That does not mean that the foods create acidity or alkalinity in the stomach. If you really want to work through the equations, you'd see that whatever miniscule pH-altering material is not present in sufficient quantity to significantly alter the acid-base equilibria of the stomach (or any other part of the digestive tract) - most of the acids present in foods have a low dissociation constant (mostly weak, often relatively unreactive organic acids) and stomach acid is a very strong halic acid.

StephT
09-02-2011, 10:40 PM
I wasn't exactly looking for a short cut/instant fix.

I work hard for my progress. I eat about 1300 cals a day (and I have to force myself or else I drop below that). And I gym six days a week, 1 - 1 1/2 hours a week. I was just hoping it would help jump start my weight-loss after a plateau. ;)

Edit: I gym six days a week, 1 - 1 1/2 hours a day, not week ;) .

Congrats on your loss! Keep up the good work! Many years ago, My sister suggested that I add lemons to my water as this was a habit that she'd developed while dieting. She claimed that it would "aid" a lil in my weight loss. Well, I tried it, and by the end of that week I'd lost 4 pounds! I was thrilled! I have never stopped adding lemons to my water til this day! I know that lemon juice acts as a diuretic, but I love the taste as well. As of late, I have started drinking a lot of SF iced tea with lemons, it is the only drink that I have besides water. I won't say it has done a lot for my weight loss, but I love the taste of it, I eliminate often (tmi) and my weight loss has been steady. I say If it works for you just do it! everyone has their "thing" that works for them when they are trying to lose weight.

puneri
09-03-2011, 12:18 AM
I think we shud discuss which food causes whoosh. For different ppl different food may be casing whoosh. Some times not exercising caushes whoosh.

nelie
09-03-2011, 12:23 AM
A lemon itself is acidic in terms of pH, but it has an alkaline effect on the body which is clearly what the advice giver would've been referring to.

So lol, clearly YOU are actually not sure what you're talking about. If you did, you would know that the pH of the food is not always related to the effects the food will have on the body once oxidized.

I posted a link in a previous post in this thread. Basically the alkaline-acid theory was developed in the early 19th century when we didn't know much about how the body worked. The idea has been thoroughly debunked. Your body doesn't change pH unless you experience something like kidney or lung failure at which point, well its 'not good'.