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Originally posted by Lush
I want an avatar like everyone else, but every time I pick one they say it is too big. Kiwi, do something.
I would be thrilled to work on your pic. Just ask Peaches...:s: Seriously, if you want, send it to me and I'll shrink it, or I can tell you how to shrink it yourself.

Originally posted by Lush
Did anyone notice that Kiwi did not deny the roofer allegations?
I love denying things -- where are these allegations??? I demand the right to deny them!!:drill:

Originally posted by Darling_Peaches
Why should motherhood be different?

I'm sure I should be insulted

Originally posted by Darling_Peaches
The question for the season is "What makes a relationship work?" Any answers?
They don't. Silly.

Originally posted by Darling_Peaches
Now I still have ds but not cement-head and if I had a guilty conscience about ds, I'd be living all alone in that h*ll.

See, here is the key. Herbie is a cement-head. DAMes and cement-heads are not compatible. Does he still give you advice because he can't bring himself to leave you alone, or are you asking him? For someone who doesn't want a "relationship" with you, he sure seems to hang around a lot. Have you ever asked him why he thinks he should be able to override your decisions about DS, considering you probably don't manage his kids' lives in any way?

Recently I had it out with DH on a similar topic -- that every time I talk to DD (I don't mean idle conversation, I mean something about what she can and cannot do, etc), he gets in the middle of it and interrupts me. I tried doing the same thing one time to him and he totally flew off the handle. I called him on this, and wouldn't let him off the hook until he clearly understood that if I couldn't interrupt him when he was telling her something, he couldn't do that to me either. Things have actually been better around here since then. Incredibly.

Originally posted by Darling_Peaches
Now a poll: What do most people do to recycle their coathangers? I mean this::::: You take the shirt out of the closet and put it on and you have a empty coathanger. You wash the shirt and you need the coathanger in the laundry room. Do you carry them everyday or what??????????????????
Do you actually wash shirts every day? When I do a load of shirts, I go to the bedroom and gather up all the empty hangers and take them to the laundry room. I have enough extras that there are usually a few hanging in the laundryroom already. I wash a LOT of shirts, but only about once every 2 weeks.

DH and I actually played guitars together last night. Picture that.

Kiwi

Let's just say I bite my tongue a lot and maintain a civility with Herbie because, for one thing, I am still driving his car. He called a while ago to tell me to go to a certain lot and look at a certain car. I'll go in a few days. He also has the potential to fulfill his guilt feelings and buy a fridge for my house. He may or may not. No one knows. His birthday is this week and I offered to take him to see Rent. He said to put it on his credit card (which is still in my wallet despite an attempt to return it) and so I did.

Emotionally, I'm pretty over the cement-head but not in the postiion to express myself satisfactorially to him.

Kiwi, what an excellent, well thought out post.
I will send you my pic. How exciting. I will have a good avatar rather than one that simply points out my long-windedness.
The roofer allegations were in an email, not on 3fc's. I'm sure that you are so IN here that they would have deleted it had I posted the scandalous truth about why you are so Mellow as of late.
On the failure as a mother thread.....isn't it amazing that we have such successful kids? It boggles my mind since, let's face it, we can't seem to consistently manage the most mundane aspects of daily life.
Also on the failure as a mother vein. Peaches, you aren't. It is ALWAYS an issue when parents date, marry etc. No matter how well meaning Herbie is, his opinions regarding the nephew are not filtered through parental love.
On the interfering fathers topic. DH does that, too. I can usually make a joke and get him to stop. He is home about 16 minutes of the waking day and I don't appreciate him spending that 16 minutes correcting everything I did the rest of the time. The happy part is that I rarely have to do it to him because he doesn't really do anything tense around here. I seem to do all of that.
THIS is what pi**e* me off. On the occasional evening when I leave the house, I come home and NOTHING is done. When I say, WHY IS NOTHING DONE????? They all look at me like I invented homework and dishes and they never heard of it before. Imagine the chaos of my household....I am the source of discipline. Scary, huh?
On the hanger issue. That is why we had kids. When you do wash, you send THE KIDS to go get hangers. I was going to post a poll for you, but I would have had to start a new thread, and we all know how much trouble that causes.
I've got to help them edit a paper on Tree Frogs. bye

I was just thinking about the motherhood thing today and marveling at the fact that *I*, personally, (well, ok, dh too) have actually managed to keep these two children clothed, fed and *alive* for such a long time when most of the time I have no idea what I'm doing. It's scary.

My friend had her baby at 9:16 a.m. this morning!. It's a boy!! Popped him out in a couple of hours with no medication, tough girl that she is. First comment to me "I thought I was going to die!" I can relate to that. They are both perfectly healthy, though. Baby is called Rupert. It's a Victorian name and also the name of my boyfriend in kindergarten so I like it. Going to visit the little family tomorrow.

Do you have any idea how late it is? Send me to bed!

I leave the coat hangers in the closet, wash the shirt and then bring the hangers out when I'm ironing the little beggars. Works for me. I also have extras in the laundry room.

well,on the topic of who does everything around here----EVERY time i come home from ANYwhere there is a big mess in the kitchen and/or the tv room---i have tried leaving everything to see if they will notice that it is a DISASTER and NO one ,not even,or "especially" dh notices or cares---so if i am the only one who cares,i should do all the work????I GUESS THAT MUST BE THE ANSWER!!!! when dd was sick in the hospital with salmonellla and i slept there for a week,i came home and the house actually STANK!!!! there was catcrap all over the rug,as no one saw that the litter was cleaned and THEY DIDN'T NOTICE THE CRAP OR THE SMELL!!! i thought the sewer had backed up or something!!!!!!!!!!! when the step dd's are here,i almost go into a depression because of the mess---they are ALL messy---mine,his the whole lot----as lush has said---if " I " am the "cleanie" we are all in trouble!!!----end of RANT!!!! now i must go and clean up the mess my dd left after making guacomole---and take the dirty bowl and two packages of taco chips off the computer desk!!!!BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

I am humbled. Sugar iron tee shirts? As for the rest of you, you are SUPERCOWS!!!!!!! But Bagz is too funny. Five dds and all messie???? LOL!!!!!!! I remember whenyou were tactfully having to make them hide their bra straps under their shirts. Now, there's cat crap on the rug!!!!!! I am laughing at the computer!!!!!!

Originally posted by Lush
Kiwi, what an excellent, well thought out post.

Don't give me that, it's too late to be sucking up to me now. I know you've been spreading nasty rumors about me in email without even sending me a copy!!

I have an off-color joke to include. Normally I would put it in the joke forum, but since it's a little on the :tape: side...here it is:

A young woman was pulled over for speeding. As the motorcycle
officer walked to her car window, flipping open his ticket book, she
said, "I bet you are going to sell me a ticket to the Highway
Patrolmen's Ball."

He replied, "Highway patrolmen don't have balls."

There was a moment of silence while she smiled, and he realized what
he'd just said. He then closed his book, got back on his motorcycle
and left.

She was laughing too hard to start her car for several minutes


Kiwi

I like it Kiweenie. I have a joke too:

A young woman (probably from the eastern coast of Canada) went through a big hail storm and ended up with several small dents in her car. She took it to the dealer where a sociopathic customer service agent told her to take the car home, blow in the tailpipe and the dents would pop out. So she did. She kept trying. She had a guest (from Maine) who stared at her and asked her what in the heck she thought she was doing. The Canadian explained the situation only to get the response "Well, DUHHHHH, don't you think you should roll up the windows first?

POLL:Last night I took DS to a Gilbert and Sullivan performance ... songs from different operas. The whole audience was greyhaired. Anyone younger than ds left at or before intermission. Ds was fine with it though. I bought the tickets over the phone. They were $20 each. After I got them at the Will Call, I saw a sign that people under age 19 only had to pay $10. No one told me that on the phone. I asked for the $10 back and got a cold stare and a "Sorry, no refunds." A woman who has worked there a long time and who may be in charge (she has her own office) is a friend.[list=a]
Should I call her and complain?
Not call her and complain as she may be able to help me in some way in the future
go into therapy
Just be glad ds stayed all the way through and didn't mind
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I don't even like Gilbert and Sullivan, but I would just forget it. They got you. You could make them give you the $10.00 back but it would cost you $20.00 in effort. You should have put it on Herbie's credit card. Then we would be glad you were overcharged. When are you going to see Rent with Herbie?
I'm annoyed. I keep a phone list by the computer. Every phone number I need is on that list. Naturally a KID lost it. It is gone. I would like to make a phone call, but I can't. I am irritated. I am tired of being the house slave. You should see the laundry room. Everyone just throws their stuff into the room with no concern as to where it goes. There is a recepticle for dirty wash, but it is EMPTY while the floor is covered. Arghhhhh
I'm going to get busy around here. I have assigned chores to kids. That covers all public areas....so I'm going to do wash and my room. Naturally, my room is the WORST in the house because I do the kids' rooms first so they can have company. Unlike Kiwi, I never have company. Just good old DH and me, so it ends up to be the last room to be considered. What does that say about Feng shei....or however the he** you spell it?
So, I'm off to do my day.
BTW...did you NOTICE that Kiwi IGNORED my email??? I have resent it because she will not avoid the shame of her current liason. He didn't even dp a GOOD job on her roof.

Well, I hate to say this, but I think you kind of are stuck with the price you paid for tickets. That's my experience, anyway. Although I suppose it wouldn't hurt to ask your friend; the drawback to that may be that she'd give you the $10 just because you are a friend and it would come out of her own pocket. Think of it this way, he acted more like an adult than anyone else there, so it was worth it.

Originally posted by Lush
BTW...did you NOTICE that Kiwi IGNORED my email??? I have resent it because she will not avoid the shame of her current liason. He didn't even dp a GOOD job on her roof.

Okay, I'll bite. How about sending the email to my actual email address and I'll take a whack at it? Come to think of it I'll bet you don't even have my email address; the only emails I've gotten from you have been replies to other people's messages. Come on, put your money where your mouth is.

DH cleaned up the computer today (well, his half of it :doh: ), so now I can use the shredder. I love the shredder. And also he got all his giant boxes of papers out of the living room. Of course he can't throw away his own trash in the rest of the house, but it's something.

Ta
Kiwi

this is my THIRD attempt to post!!! i keep LOSING IT [in more ways than one] I was trying to tell you that in my quest for peacefulness, and FENG SHUI,i have decided to have almost everything in our bedroom WHITE---- so far,i have white sheers,blinds, and curtains,a WHITE quilt,white bedside tables and i am about to paint the oak dresser WHITE---- i want to paint the walls white and dh says the room will look like an asylum-----that word sounds lovely to me-----my own personal asylum---what could be better----i should take a picture and show you what i have so far...................ummmmmmmmmmmm---eternal resssssssssssssssssssst!!!!!!!!!!!!

I tried the white bedroom thing. I also tried the white kitchen thing. It didn't look any cleaner. Just better contrast.
I'm mad at Kiwi. She has spoken harshly to me.

I sort of forgive Kiwi because she sent me a nice song. It was about male dogs and I have a female, but since I have male cats who mark my snow, it's ok.
My SIL, the one I like, is coming to dinner. Isn't that nice? We're going to watch [i] About a Boy[/] It will be more fun than talking because I'm so boring in real life.
Gotta go cook an amazing dinner.
bye

What are we having for dinner, anyway? We have to watch the SuperBowl, at least the commercials, so it has to be living room food. And of course it has be pretty quick.

I took ds and left Dogpatch this afternoon. We went in the WinnDixie in a better neighborhood and guess what !?!??!!!! MEN were wildly RUNNING THROUGH THE STORE buying BEER and MUSTARD and CHIPS!! The whole CHIP AISLE was depleted. DS and I had to get broken chips. Each man got one item to take home to learn that something else was lacking so he could frantically run back and knock people down in the aisles to get that mustard. We don't have tv. We are spared. Rent is Wednesday. Herbie says he going to negotiate this care for me. I think that means he's trading in mine and paying the difference. He wants his care, which I have, washed. I told him it's TOOO COLLDD to go out and wash a car. Well, he doesn't want to have to spend a day (a day is what he said) getting it washed. Cement headedness is genetic. I know it is. It's just so inciting.

car not care. Of course.

i was wondering if you were having some sippy's there Peachpot!!!!--glad lush and kiwi are not fighting any more---what happend to Brattie??? she must be friends with Dusty.DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT LIKE THE WHITE BEDROOM LUSHBONG AND WHAT COLOUR IS YOUR bEDrOOm NOW????OAT[EXPLETIVE] MEAL?????

I would have been happy to keep fighting with Kiwi, but she is so mellow that it is completely impossible to disagree with her. It must be all this "guitar playing" she's doing.

listen miss borefestival, i want to know the colour of your boudoir!!! fess up---also we all know that you must be eating crack laced lentils to play guitar effectively{or drinking margies}.

I want somebody to fight with too.

Sugar!!! What was that crack about not wanting my kitty downloaded on your computer 10 times a day!!! Hrumph!!

I have finished Lovely Bones and can critique for you all. Here's one item: the sister remembers when the dad called them into a room and told them "a little girl has been killed" and she THOUGHT he had meant a little child girl. Now her sister had been missing for days. How likely is it that this would have been her thought? Other inconsistencies bothered me but it was ok anyhow. Nothing graphic. No real sadness.

I took my haircuttingguy a picture of me from two years ago when he cut my hair better. He fixed it. It looks much better now. If it weren't that I need more zippers in my pants to let out so I cn breathe, I'd feel adorable.

It isn't like I haven't bored you all with my decorating schemes in the past.
My bedroom is very neutral, except it has an ugly blue rug which I always plan to do something about but never do. Right now it has a wine and gold striped comforter and the curtains are goldish(not metallic but not beige, either) with wine scarves draped over them. It isn't bad looking. My summer look is a mostly white bedspread that my mother embroidered and quilted with her very own hands. I used to do all white with that, but now I do a seersucker, it is cheerier and shows less contrast when there is clutter, which is always. It looks like summer, it is light.
You know, Peaches, I can't believe I liked Herbie when I met him, because now I think he is a cement-head, too. I hope you like Rent. I loved it. I liked The Lovely Bones, but having a daughter it was sad to me. It was good but I don't understand why it is such a best seller.
I didn't make it through the whole superbowl. June says I should get at least 8 hours sleep, so I did. I really enjoy getting advice from her. Why aren't any of you perfect?
I get to go back to Curves today. I'm so excited. Isn't Wabby rude not to post on the weekend? She should go to work just to be able to talk to us.
Gotta go....bye

to play guitar. I have innate ability. :lol: Well, at least I know how to read music. DH doesn't know how to read music at all, but knows most of the chords on the guitar. So I am teaching him how to play melody lines and stuff. Meanwhile DD knows everything about the guitar, but is keeping it to herself. I think DH has this fantasy about being the Trapp Family Guitar Ensemble or something. We could wear leiderhosen and dirndls.

My bedroom is flannel in winter and quilt in summer. Oh, those aren't colors? Okay I guess it's colored cathair and dust. I don't know what's under that.

Kiwi

it has been snowing alllllllllll day----kiwi---how about you??? in newfoundland they had three storms in one week-- and they got 45 cm in one of the storms------we have stayed in all day and the steps and driveway are covered with snow---i am a bore, and that is that.

I would have been here sooner, but 3fc's has been giving me a bad time. Cement headedness is gender specific, Peaches. I told you that in my first post, but it was lost in cyberspace.

I went to the wedding reception. The bride looked radiant. I'm too tired now to tell you the long version of this. Don't you hate it when you compose a long and amusing post and it gets lost????

We have not had even one snowflake here this winter, Bagzie. Is it pretty?

Sugar, tell your friend congrats on her baby. Tell her your friend who is a figment of your imagination said so. Do ppl look concerned when you talk about your computer friends?

Yes, Wabby, that is very vexing when good posts go to the 4 winds. I imagine a cyber-dead-letter office where all the most interesting, witty things we had to say are just sitting around waiting for a miracle. Glad to see you back. We had a good bit of snow today. Nothing to write home about, a few inches. It does improve the look of everything, though. I wish it would warm up. It went up to around 15 deg F early today, then by dark it was back to -8! It's just too much. I haven't done anything outdoors all winter except clean snow off my car.

It's never vexing when my messages get lost, because I never have anything to say. I'm a bore.
I could clean today, but instead I'll go to the hairdresser and do something about my roots. I think I'll also knock a few more things off my "to do" list. I don't plan to clean. I just don't want to.

I don't think I'll nap, but that could change.

I have a conference with DS10's teacher. It is going to be awful. I think I'll take my other two kids in as evidence that I don't raise 100% brats. His grades are good but he is so fresh to this teacher. He's one of those Alpha boys.....dominant in every way. He's tall and a good athlete and he just lords over that group of boys. Because I also have the other type of boy, I know how horrible these Type A boys are to the more passive kids in the class. I always thought there was something the parents weren't doing that made those boys so difficult, but he was just born this way. I have a hint, though. He's the cleanie in my family. Do you think that has something to do with it?
It's a shame that no one outside of our family sees how nice and sweet he can be because he is always "on." He never lets his guard down when he is out of the house.

Wish me luck. His teacher is another battle ax...though all his teacher have been battle axes and I wonder if he just brings this out in people.

I'm off to get ready for the hairdresser. Have a good one, everyone. bye.

OK, I'll just pretend that my witty post got sucke into the circular cyberspace file and that this is a cheap facsimile.

Really crabby, need to go look at my ten downloads of Peachy's kitty to feel better. I think I'll use him as a screen saver. Still have to think of a tasteful knick knack for the future Peach residence.

I don't have an alpha kid, Lush, I have a class clown who likes to repeat what people say *while* they're talking or burp in class. Half-term report cards are on Friday. Then the kids get 4 days off to recover.

Today I: put away laundry, cleaned bathrooms, loaded dishwasher twice, (need to hand wash the rest - where does it all come from?) baked bread with my *new automatic bread machine* (what a strange looking loaf - details later, made pizza dough, made kids toss a bunch of old toys and games, hung on the computer much too long, got crabby.

all my kiddies are home toooo!!!ds is "sick"[recovering from cold} dd16 is on "turnover" days after exams,and dd18 has no classes at university on Tuesdays!! it is FREEZING out {-30 windchill and it's very windy} i have been in the house for days and i could care less!!!! i was just looking at my garden pictures and ordered an 8x10 of one from the local print shop [to cheer me up---my SUN flowers in full bloom -siiiiiiiiiiigh}i think i will log onto flynag and get some inspiration for cleaning!!!!!! i need my hair dyed too lushbong-------wabby----NO SNOW!!!! i may have to come visit you next month---I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO THE SEATTLE GARDEN SHOW AND I AM GOING TO MEET YOU AND YOUR SISTER THERE!!!!!!!!

I'm not going to the garden show this year, Bagzie! My sis can't get away, my friend who usually goes is still undergoing chemo, and my other friend who usually goes is the little mother who we just had the baby shower for. She's too close to her due date to travel. Sooooo, if you would like to come and join me for the garden show, I'd be ecstatic. At least you'd get a little touch of spring fever from it. When you walk in the door at the convention center, its smells like hyacinths-springtime!!!!

I have a bread machine too, Sugar. I like to use the dough cycle and then make cinnamon rolls out of it. Of course I'd never think of eating them.

Lush, my sympathies, dear. My DS is a sweet, lovable boy, but he was like Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde at school. Sometimes I wish I could go back and do those school years over again, but I have a feeling it would be the same experience. I'd like to see how things would have turned out if I'd put him on Ridalin like the Dr. advised we do. DH was so totally against putting any drugs in the kid that we didn't put him on it, even though he was diagnosed ADD. Woulda shoulda coulda. I wish some of his teachers could see him now. He isn't a brain surgeon or rocket scientist, but he is a serious, conscientous worker, who actually is a contributing member of society. He pays his bills on time, he doesn't drink or smoke, and he actually has goals. Amazing. Did I tell you he's moving out on Feb. 1? I think I'm getting into the melancholy mode.

There's a rainbow on my monitor case. The sun is shining through the clear plastic blank CD tower and reflecting on the CDs and casting a very funky rainbow on the monitor. Makes it seem like it could be warmer than the 8°F I know it is outside. I'm having the last bowl of homemade beef barley soup (ymmmmm!) for a late lunch. I haven't done anything but one load of laundry today. I am so useless it's pitiful.

My condolences on the school conference, Lush. Why not put your own spin on this? He's a very active, exuberant boy and he needs more challenges in school. Then it's their fault. They used to call my DH "active" when he was a kid. He was the bane of many a teacher's existence too.

I have a bread machine too, Sugar. Actually we gave it to DH's mother years ago, and she finally decided she wasn't going to use it. We don't either. I never really get that good a loaf of bread out of it. The shape is definitely too weird to make sandwiches. When I make sandwiches, they have to fit in square plastic boxes for DD's lunch.

I haven't exercised since Friday. That really sucks. I've GOT to get back into it today OR ELSE! :drill: Somebody yell at me.

Kiwi

KIWI!!! GET YER ARSE OFF THE COMPUTER {RAINBOW OR NOT} AND MARCH IN PLACE WHILE YOU WAIT FOR YOUR DVD TO WARM UP!!!!! I JUST WENT TWENTY ON THE TREADMILL BUT HAD TO STOP TO BABYSIT THREE EIGHT YEAR OLDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GET TO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

I needed a little change in my life, so I have a new avatar. Whattya think?

Kiwi, are you having a flashback from the sixties??? Rainbows on your computer?

Bagz is right. March in place. Now. How is that for being bossy?

I really don't have a thing to say, I just wanted to try out my avatar.

Thanks, Bagz. It worked -- I did my workout, took my shower, marinated the beef tips for dinner and I'm back!

Aw, Wabby, you're a bossy kissy cow!! :goodvibes:

Kiwi

wake up an post. Sugar I know you are up. Entertain me. go ahead. I'm waiting.

I love the new avatars!!! Kissy cow and cat-cow!!!

Now my list:

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Get ds to school by 7:40
Go to my office to look for the gift I actually bought cement-head
Go to cement-head's office and pick up my new car
Go take a picture of big government giving money to little government at a place that's very inconvenient for little government to go to
Go to Cement's house and rest (I have been out for several nights in a row and am exhausted)
Go to dinner and play with Cement
Go back to Dogpatch to pick up ds at my office-mate's house where he will have had a sushi dinner
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I don't have a rainbow. Kiwi get your butt up. You can make Lush's avatar after you do 20 on the treadmill.

Peaches, you and cement head are the most happily separated couple I know.

I don't have to be into the office until 1 pm today. I am at loose ends as to what to do with my day. What are your suggestions? I don't want to clean.

I suggest you rent a movie and watch it. I just watched "About a Boy" I thought it was good. I thought it was even better that I was sitting all snug watching a movie while it was snowing outside. It was nice.
But, enough of that. Now I'm going to do stuff. I"m going to start by returning said movie by noon so as not to attract late charges. Then I will get a cup of coffee and return to make a list. Here I go, bye.
Wabby, are you all better from your surgery?
L

OK, I bagged returning the movie. It is worth 6bucks to get some momentum going before the kids get home. I have to work tomorrow so I have to get moving.
1. get book on tape, drink coffeeThe coffee is mine, not great but OK...what do they do at coffee places that makes their coffee better than mine? My book on tape is still the stinko Belva Plain. I need to make a trip to the library
2. shift wash What is the problem with my family and the laundry room. It is always a mess...no one can tell the difference between clean clothes which do not belong on the floor, and dirty clothes which also do not belong on the floor. somehow they all end up on the floor, in one big dirty mess...and then they end up all having to be washed...again....because I have nothing better to do.
3. unload dw done
4. clear counter I dont' feel like it...1/2 hour later...I did it, and I cleaned the coffee pot
5. pack lunches for rest of week done for the next week and a half
6. clear table I don't feel like this one, either....... 1/2 hour later.....ok, ok I did it.
7. wipe floor I guess I don't feel like anythning...I'll take a break.
8. 10 min fr Ok...I'm taking another break....I don't feel like vacing the fr
9. vac fr Ok, I'm going......done
10. clear toys that are really trash out of DS10's room. Sneak it to back street so that boy will never know I threw away his stuff.
I'm going to go spend the next 40 minutes until DS12 gets home doing his room......the other two have stuff after school, he's the only one coming home on the bus.
BTW....DS10's teacher was kind to me. I can tell she wants to kill him, but she was funny rather than mad. She, at least, appreciates his talent. He's quite an artist. She does not appreciate him drawing on EVERYTHING...but she'll get over it.
Wabby, I don't think it is smart to medicate kids. DS 10 is a definite candidate for medication, but no. What kind of message does it send a kid to tell him that there is something so fundamentally wrong with him that he has to be medicated for anyone to put up with him. Also, medication wears off, and once it does, the kids are left with no coping skills and no means of controlling their behavior. I have to admit that we put three times as much time into this kid than we do the other two put together. But, what can we do? This is how he is and it will be how he will be all his life. He should learn now that it is no excuse for poor performance. His grades are good, but he is often up until 11 with me standing over him making him do the rest of his work. He always has TV and video games taken from him. He lives in a constant state of sensory deprivation because if he is allowed to touch a video game, he's gone. Nothing will get done.
Funny, but he can take an engine apart and put it back together, too..just like your DS. I think it is just a different way of wiring the brain.
OK, I have work to do.

bye

Ok, you guys... post I'll be back in 40 min....

My coffee is great.

my new car is a 1997 LaSabre. It is silver. It is much nicer than my old car but probably not up to the standards of you Martha-beets. I am reading a book (Oprah picked it out) called "Open House" that was written by Lush under an alias. The woman makes lists. She hates Martha and everyone hates Martha and even Martha hates Martha so that makes her like Marths. I love the book.

The boy scout adults are fighting. Oh my. Petty petty pettiness is so ugly. The scouts had elections last night and one dad congratulated the winners via email then said he thought the troop should consider term limits or something as the same kids are elected all the time. I agree. His son is tiny and will not be seen as a leader which is sad. My son has been elected but not in a while. Some never are. Several parents chimed in to agree then one mom of Mr. Popular Jr. got hateful and said some kids just want the easy street and some kids in good positions don't attend meetings. Like she'd know. She got all this from her 12-year-old.

I am also opposed to medicating kids just so adults can have a easier time in life. Too many who have nothing wrong with them , other than they're kids, get immobilized because adults find them tiresome. Some adults are better at dealing with kids than others. Find those.

My coffee is terrible. I have switched to decaffeinated tea which is even worse. Tastes like dishwater looks.

Nothing to report. It's snowing again. Stevie is forwarding me (and 27 other people - I love having the addresses of perfect strangers) silly jokes all of a sudden, so I am forwarding him the ones my mother (who is *not* deranged, BTW) keeps forwarding to me. It all works out in the and and perfect harmony is maintained.

Lush, my laundry room looks like yours, except no one goes in there so I manage to keep the wrinkly, clean clothes on top of the freezer and the dirty ones on the floor. There is still stuff there from last summer. Shame on me. But why should I wash shorts when it's cold outside? Did you know that we only wear about 20 % of our clothes 80% of the time. Or something. Didn't FlyLady mention that? I would love to see her holiday jumper. I haven't worn one of those since I was 8. Peachy, while I have been known to iron a t-shirt or two, I was talking about dress shirts or business shirts or whatever those ones are called that businessmen wear. I haaaaaaaate ironing those, but it must be done.

Went to visit the new baby and his mom on Sunday. He is just the cutest, pinkest, most perfect little thing. I forgot how small newborns are. They have crappy hospitals here. They use J-cloths for baby wipes. Yuk. Had to show new mom the patented Sugar P Diaper Change Method. :smug:

Made pizza dough in the bread machine yesterday and pre-baked the crusts to use today. Worked great. May move on to cinnamon rolls tomorrow. Bread machines make you fat.

Bread machines don't make ppl fat, ppl make ppl fat. Kinda like the old guns don't kill ppl line. Except those automatic weapons kill ppl so much more efficiently. Same w/ bread machines vs. kneading by hand. I seem to be rambling here. :dizzy:

I'm so happy that you all have validated me as a mother. Actually I give credit to DH for not medicating DS. Anyhow it's kind of a moot point now, because DS is out of school and doesn't have college plans. I think he's planning on running DH's empire someday, which means he'll be using his strong back instead of his mind.:strong:

My coffee is yummy, because I use the "gourmet" kind, freshly ground, and lots of it. I like it just as well as the espresso shop on the way to work. Try the French Roast. mmmm.

I'm at work now. I ended up cleaning, just because I didn't have to get dressed to do it. I did the big clean out of the fridge. It was way beyond the wipe out only cleaning. Then I cleaned my laundry room. I actually hung up all those summer shirts and put them in the spare closet (DH's closet is jammed). I have to have it clean because a man is coming tommorrow to put in a new ceramic tile floor in there!!!!! This is only after 10 years of patiently waiting for it (see, Kiwi, there is hope).

Peaches, congrats on the new car - and I read Open House too. I like Elizabeth Berg. I just finished Larry's Party which was very good, the story of an ordinary man, who really isn't ordinary, because all of us ordinary ppl are extraordinary. I also just finished Someone else's child which was good in a romance novel way. I'm reading To Kill a Mockingbird again, just because it's so good.

The guys are back in from the job site, gotta go act like I've been working. :s:

Originally posted by SugP
.. Didn't FlyLady mention that? I would love to see her holiday jumper. I haven't worn one of those since I was 8. ...
..They use J-cloths for baby wipes. Yuk. Had to show new mom the patented Sugar P Diaper Change Method. :smug:


When you say jumpers, are you talking about sweaters or sleeveless-dresses-you-wear-over-shirts? I have 2 Christmas sweaters, one tackier than the other. What are J-cloths? I want to know about the patented Sugar P Diaper Change Method -- after all, I'm going to be an auntie again in May.

Had to go to a wake this afternoon. There's a cheery experience.

Kiwi

j-cloths must be canadian--i know what you mean--those blue or pink checked strong washable paper towels!!!!how rough and awful for the new babybuns.I believe the British call sweaters jumpers[???] i think flynaggy means a sleeveless dress that you wear a shirt under[like a boarding school}new baby sounds adorable!!!

I don't understand what any of you are talking about.

I have to disagree with Ms Lushie Pants. Herbie and I (it's his birthday so I'll call him Herbie) left Rent at intermission. What is the appeal? The story is unwholesome, non-cheerful, the-bottom-of-life. The singing is mainly people singing different songs at the same time really loud. Many times sex was simulated in the dancing in far too explicit a way for me to want to watch. Costumes were ugly. The set was ugly. The talent was wonderful. That junkie-girl-who-dances-in-handcuffs-in-some-bar could really kick high. The "moo with me" song made the audience laugh but I think it was out of embarassment.

I am depressed. Someone tell jokes. Oh, here's one:

A couple went to the Super Bowl and couldn't find seats. The place was packed. They walked around looking for seats and couldn't find a thing until they saw a man sitting with three empty seats on each side of him. They told him they were having trouble finding someplace to sit together and were these taken? He motioned to a seat next to him and said "This is belongs to my wife but she's deceased. You can use it if you want." They said they were sorry to hear that and thanked him but they still needed one more seat. Did he know who had the other seats? "My family," he said. The couple didn't know what to say. This was the biggest game of the year. No one would miss the Super Bowl. They asked if the family was coming? "Probably not," the man said shruggling. "I suppose they went to the funeral."

J-cloths = HandyWipes!! Those would be awful for babies!
Oh well, what do you expect -- don't they have toilet paper in Germany that feels like a grocery bag, or is that ancient history?

Sorry to hear you didn't like Rent, Peaches. I keep hearing it's so great, although I can't say I know much about it. Maybe it's only good compared to watching TV :lol:

Kiwi

Boy, I am off today. Kiwi, I am sorry. My husband has a separate email and really isn't interested in any email I get. I really know you aren't involved with a roofer.....he did a lousy job. But I WANT TO KNOW why the Zenlike calm?
Peaches, you should have read the libretto. Yes, it is racy. I love the music, but oh well.
Sugar, Bagz and Wabby, I can't think of anything to do to offend either of you, but it's early in the day. I have to go to work so I will be short on opportunities.
Our local boy made it to the last 32 on American Idol last night. He wasnt' profiled. He's a real goody-goody so I guess he is no fun. Here is his profilehttp://www.idolonfox.com/contestants/louisgazzara.htm ..... he should have kept the thing about shaving his chest to himself...but then again, he is Italian.
Even though I caused her marital strife, Kiwi was so sweet and Zenlike that she made me an avatar. I hope it shows up. Now I have to go get dressed. It is 6am but the new me is dressed before the kids get up so that I can be just like Flyhag. My sink is clean.

Ohhhhh, look at my avatar...thank you Kiwi!!!!!!!!!!!

The avatar is adorable but what marital strife? Is someone's dh up for grabs??????

Geez, is that Peaches opportunistic or what? Don't you want your very own unsullied DH, Peach?

What can I do all day while the guy is putting in the flooring? I always feel embarrassed to just lay around like I usually do when someone is working on my house. The fridge is already clean so that's out. Maybe I'll do a paint touch up on my bedroom. I made the mistake of painting it w/ a flat finish, with 2 dogs in the house. You can't scrub flat paint. DH is threatening to give away our Golden Retriever because he chewed up DH's favorite shoes. This dog has a nervous problem. He needs a mother like Kiwi who would pay attention to him. When he doesn't get enough attention he acts out. Kiwi, would you like a big doofy yeller dog???

does anyone remember all the earnest messies that used to board the "busybus" and that someone who used to assign jobs everyweek {secretly}---WHAT happened to all those cleanies?????i want to spy on them again.

Bagzie, Last I heard they were over at Cherry's. I used to have her website...I will find it for you. It is interesting to me that you can enter the name Zippygirl (www.mymessyhouse.com/technique.shtml) and out comes our own Cherry. I wonder what happened to all of them, too. They were so earnest.
I'm taking a nap. I'm cranky.
Isn't my dog cute. I have a confession, it isn't really my dog. It just looks like my dog. I'm too technically limited to actually take a pic of my dog and post it.
I have one hour before I have to go pull my DD out of that school. She has something every day after school. We have no late bus.
Gotta go see if my link worked.

Do you remember a Maggie at the Cybermom...here is her email address.....mrv01@hotmail.com. Or, here's
Claudia's site (http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/3337/index.html) / Let me know what you find.
L

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/3337/index.html

this has old guestbook entries...email addresses are included. My email is no different, maybe other people are as boring as I am.

Thanks lushpuss,i was over lurking at cherry's and she has pretty decent traffic on her message boards----EVERYONE IS VERY NICE!!!! Or i would suggest we go over there----it wouldn't work out,as we all know we like to mix it up a bit----it's kind of interesting that Brattie left when Dahlia did-----I guess they are friends OR we chased her away with our playful banter. I had no idea you could erase posts you had already left!!!!! That would have been terrible for me when i used to go back and read Dusty posts!!!!! i am sure all of this means that I MUST GET A LIFE IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!----oh!!! i got a cute card from Peachers today{and ds got a cute card from the peachboy!!}BUT she has accused ME Of hurting her feelings regarding her big butt----i can't even remember exactly what i said-----but it must have been hurtful----here is my apology----darling peachers,I am SO sorry that you have such a gigantuan BEE-Hind----it must be painful for you. I have sincere empathy for your serious plight.Amen.-----and now here is my joke---

The priest was preparing a man for his long day's journey into night. Whispering firmly, the priest said, "Denounce the devil! Let him know how little you think of his evil!"

The dying man said nothing. The priest repeated his order. Still the dying man said nothing. The priest asked, "Why do you refuse to denounce the devil and his evil?"

The dying man said, "Until I know where I'm heading, I don't think I ought to aggravate anybody."

funny

This is so like you Bahhhgz to pick out my achilles tendon and after it. Do you ever mention my lovely ankles? NO!! Do you remark on my naturally wavy hair??? NOOOOO!!!!! My seashell ears?? My innie belly button? My dazzling brown eyes/?????? ALL YOU EVER HAVE TO SAY ABOUT EMEMEMEM involves MY BUTTERBALLBUTT.

I called Herbie while ago to say thanks for the nice car. He said (laughing) "I was wondering when you were going to say something." I never thanked him yesterday. If it weren't for all this stress from 20-miles-on-treadmill-cause-I-ain't going-out-side-to-Walmart and her butttttt insults, I would have been mor gracious.

Bagz, YOU Owe Herbie anApology. Just don't mention my butt.

Lush, that is such a cute dog. It is no wonder you chose an avatar like that. We all know that your real dog is oatmeal colored.

I want sugar to post more

Hey, don't pick on my dog. She is cute. My kids feel her nose is pointier in real life. Also, she needs a bath, but it is too cold.

Zen-like, my left butt cheek!!! DH has hired a lawyer!!!

Sorry, don't think I can take your goofy dog, Wabbit, I think I'm going to have to start working soon.

Kiwi, completely stressed out

Oh, and the roof is leaking again. Just a little extra irony.

;) GOTCHA! :s:



DH is hiring a lawyer because he is planning to start a business. And I may indeed end up working. On his books etc.

And no, he doesn't really read my email, although even if he did, he would take anything from you guys with a grain of salt. I really didn't get the other emails about the roofer, Lush -- you sent them to the wrong email address!! I wonder if someone real actually got them. Perhaps you are corresponding with someone you don't know even now! :lol:

Lush's puppy looks adorable (well, we'll pretend it's hers), and I like Bagz' sexy new avatar too!

Kiwi :devil:

Just a little thing I would yell at Peaches if she were on the opposing baseball team.!!!!! hahahaha---my dd gave me the avatar---i still don't know how to do it!!!!:dizzy: SOOOOOOOO----i did twenty MINUTES on the treadmill,not twenty MILES {or 45 k's}and my butt is WAY bigger than yours,don't forget you had a POP TOP on when i took pictures of you in front of Steven King's HOUSE!!!!!okay---SOOOOOOOO today i have a full blown snocking skanky headcold----will that keep me from MARGIE NIGHT??????:no: :no: :no: :no:kiwonkers!!! what kind of job??? i want to work too!!! NO i mean i want money!!! can you get me an online job??can we get paid for this????? :lol:

Man, I'm so steamed!!!! I just had a telemarketer call me a word that starts w/ a C, ends with a T and has 4 letters. Just because I asked him nicely to take me off his call list. This is why I think they should be outlawed.

Kiwi, my condolences on the job. That sounds an awful lot like my job, and I do not love it. Well, actually I love parts of it. The part that involves me getting money to live on.

Yes, Lush has an adorable dog. I'm kind of immune to adorable right now. They always are adorable so you love them, but drive you crazy w/ their bad habits.

It's Bunco night on Saturday!!! I can't wait!! The theme is Chinese New Year so we're having Chinese food. MMMM. Earlier in the day we're invited to our nice neighbor's 60th birthday party. This woman is one of my most admired ppl. She volunteers at a foster home for handicapped and AIDs babies. She is a real live angel. Also she deserves sainthood for putting up with her husband for a zillion years.

I want Sugar to post more too.

He called you a Celt??? That is so mean. Is there anyway these people can be found out? We don't know who they are, where they are, even if they're really what they say they are. They know who we are. How do you fight back.

This is a personal word to Bagzearearend. I have considered leaving this group as I believe is my association with true lard arses like yourself that's keeping me fat. When I find my new thin friends, Sugar, Kiwi, and Wabby will be invited to join us and we'll all be happy in our size 8's. I don't know if Lush can come or not. Her attitude is iffy. You have to stay here.

My list:

Consider my blossoming belly and Bagz' effect on it
Ponder losing weight
Think about what I'll do tomorrow as I lead boy scouts through their reading merit badge
go get ds when he calls
that's all


Should I try to get ds into a driving course? he's soooo young but at the school I want him to go to next year, they don't have drivers ed.

Geeez! I don't post for a couple of days and the whole place falls apart!Kiwi mentions the "W" word, Wabby gets called horrible names by an awful, awful person who should lose his job pronto, Peachy's derriere had been insulted, Lush's dog is dirty, and Bagz is actually exercising. Well, I'm here to put a stop to all that.

We had a ton of snow. More expected this afternoon. Ds9 got a good report card, but his teacher gave him a 4 in "handwriting" . That's like a D. He's a messy writer, but he gets Bs in all his subjects except gym, but who cares about that, so I think she is being entirely too picky.

I am PMSing. Fat, bloated and the rest of it. Ugh.

My mother is knitting Harry Potter scarves for my two for their birthdays. Apparently they are all the rage. We'll see.

I saw a preview for "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" and I think I have to see it. I love Andrea Martin - "What you mean, he don't eat no meat? That's ok - I make lamb!" They're even showing it here in English for a limited time only. How continental of them.

AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- YOU ALL TRIED TO GUILT ME OUT ABOUT 3FC BEING OFF THE AIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I GUESS I WILL AT LEAST WARRANT A WARNING BEFORE I GET TURFED!!!! LET'S NOT FORGET WHO ACTUALLY GOT INTO TROUBLE PEACHEZ!!!!!!!!at this moment i am sure you are all very sad about the terrible shuttle accident----how horrible for all those people and their families as well as the families of Challenger who must all be reminded of their awful event-----maybe bushwacker can forget about bombing Iraq for a minute.

3FC is having power problems with their server. Nothing personal, Bagz. :lol:

Originally posted by Wabby
Man, I'm so steamed!!!! I just had a telemarketer call me a word that starts w/ a C, ends with a T and has 4 letters. Just because I asked him nicely to take me off his call list. This is why I think they should be outlawed.
That is disgusting. Did you get the name of the company?

Originally posted by Wabby
Kiwi, my condolences on the job. That sounds an awful lot like my job, and I do not love it. Well, actually I love parts of it. The part that involves me getting money to live on.
It's exactly like yours, as a matter of fact. Except that he might set up shop in the offices of the paper mill if they let him--would save him a lot of $ and the work he'd be doing would be mostly for them anyway. I have mixed feelings, to say the least. Of course I want to help any way I can, but I do not want to spend the rest of my days answering phones in a stinky office. So, if it's on my terms, we'll all be happy, but if I don't get my way....:bb:

Peaches, I would definitely get ds into a driving course, if I were you. You don't have to let him get his license for a loooooooong time.

Sugar, My Big Fat Greek Wedding was very funny. I don't exactly see why it's been such a giant hit here, but it was definitely worth seeing. And Andrea Martin was hilarious!

Gotta go sit and listen to DH's "business plan". Will be needing aspirin soon.

Kiwi

ASPIRIN?????????? HOW ABOUT A GIN AND TONIC!!!!!well,now that we have a reprieve at 3fatchicks,shall we begin by being polite for a moment-----I thought not.It seems to me that we aren't able to properly get on each others nerves,but we have no trouble aggravating others....we are always nice to cherry who deserves nothing but sweetness............

Oh good idea, Bagz. Why didn't I think of that?

That's just awful about the space shuttle. :(

Dh has a cold and is NOT helping my PMS by sniffling around the house with a box of kleenex and a hot water bottle.

Snow has turned to rain. DS6 made the cutest snow mouse. It'll probably be much by tomorrow.

Gin and tonic sounds good right about now.

Hello! I'm swamped with my school work... trying to come up with something intelligent to say about poetry. My website was reminding people to write thank you notes for Christmas presents!! So I had to update it. Peachy, I hate when adults take over kids activities and turn them into something to fight about. Kiwi.. okay, you had me going a little bit. Wabby, I hate telemarketers also... I always let the machine pick it up. Hi Bagzie and Sugar P!

I exercised every day this week and stuck to my &%*&^ 1200-calorie diet. This weekend, I'm eating a little more, but it's back to diet (*&*&*& tomorrow. I hate dieting. It makes me obsessive and whiny. Well, more obsessive and whiny.

We're watching Groundhog's Day.

The space shuttle thing was so sad. I was working yesterday morning and had just sent out a happy blurb about how they were just about to land after a successful science mission. I couldn't help but remember Challenger, which I was watching on TV when it happened.

Gotta go! Poetry calls me!