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woolberger
08-08-2011, 12:53 AM
I feel we need a place for the maintainers to post. I know you are out there. We all relied on this forum to provide support, advice and ideas during our amazing weight loss journey. Now that we are in maintenance, we are not sure where we fit in. We are in that place we dreaded while losing weight...the eternal stall (but it's a good thing!). We no longer get the cheers and support from our friends and family. We secretly fear gaining the weight back. We've been down that road before. I know I would love to exchange ideas with others who are working every day to eat sanely and keep this interesting and new.

I still get great ideas from the daily and recipe threads. Last week I learned about the Joyce Chen Spiral Slicer from Maykatcooper. It makes vegetables into a noodle-like substitute! It's information like that I would love to hear about and share. And I would love to celebrate people being able to maintain their losses and hearing of their victories in tough situations.

Anyone out there lurking like me? Come join us!

Lynn


brandam6
08-11-2011, 10:08 PM
Geez Lynn, I guess you are the only one?!

I just started Maintenance today! So I have no advice or tips. Got any for me? :)

There are several people that will be maintaining soon though, and a thread for Phase 4 tips and support is a great idea!

becca1978
08-11-2011, 10:20 PM
I have about 11 lbs left to lose and then I will join you! I will look forward to joining you soon!


Princess Jessica
08-11-2011, 10:51 PM
Okay I am so sorry, I am not even close to being in maintenance but I couldn't help myself... this thread looks like the name of a band...or maybe a book/movie. :) "The Maintainers"
Now I claim royalties when one of you goes off and gets really famous and rich with that novel/movie/CD. :D

woolberger
08-12-2011, 12:13 AM
Geez Lynn, I guess you are the only one?!

I just started Maintenance today! So I have no advice or tips. Got any for me? :)

There are several people that will be maintaining soon though, and a thread for Phase 4 tips and support is a great idea!

Hi Brandy,

I saw my thread drop to page 4 or 5 and thought I really was the only one! Congratulations on reaching maintenance.

I did track my intake using MFP for the first 4 months and it really helped. I found myself looking for items that were comparable to IP foods...Greek yogurt has 18 grams of protein and 7 carbs, Starkist tuna salad in a pouch has 100 cals, 4 carbs, 3 fats and 13 gr protein.
I went on a medical mission trip to Peru in June and stopped tracking. I have noticed a slow creep in my weight so I am starting to track again. I still use some of the IP products for convenience. I haven't been doing the good carbs at dinner. Not really my thing. Dinner tonight for the whole family was salmon, fresh roasted yellow squash from my garden and salad with tomatoes from my garden. No starch carbs for anyone.

Look forward to sharing with you. Thanks for saving my thread:hug:

Lynn

ash825
08-12-2011, 12:34 AM
I'm on day 2 of phase 3. So...I'm right there. My favorite thing you said:
"We no longer get the cheers and support from our friends and family. We secretly fear gaining the weight back."
This is definitely a new phase in my journey. Learning to love myself where I am and valuing my health enough to put in the effort to continue.
Looking forward to being part of the maintainers!

woolberger
08-12-2011, 12:44 AM
I'm on day 2 of phase 3. So...I'm right there. My favorite thing you said:
"We no longer get the cheers and support from our friends and family. We secretly fear gaining the weight back."
This is definitely a new phase in my journey. Learning to love myself where I am and valuing my health enough to put in the effort to continue.
Looking forward to being part of the maintainers!

Welcome Ash. You have done an amazing job. It will be fun to maintain with everyone!

Lynn

Lone Loser
08-12-2011, 09:08 AM
My husband is about to start Phase 4 whiile I am still on Phase I -- but, I am hoping this is a great place to get some tips and ideas for him (and me, eventually).

Thanks for starting this!

ItsAboutTime
08-12-2011, 09:41 AM
I will be interested in keeping up with this forum even though I'm far from maintaining.

woolberger
08-12-2011, 10:21 AM
Good Morning Everyone!

Check out the thread "How does it feel to reach goal?", post 7 from Longdivision. I think she says it all...very well. I hope she joins us over here.

I am at my goal weight today!! Yay!! Have a great day!

Lynn

Bellamack
08-12-2011, 10:50 AM
I will be reading this thread also, as you are our incentives & heros! I have a long way to go and am a very slow loser (yes I follow protocol & no cheats), but the fear is still there after all the hard work and $$$, will I gain it back? CHEER CHEER to the maintainers.....it's a journey with no end!

puneri
08-12-2011, 10:57 AM
Hi woolburger,
I am way behind my target weight. I am doing 17 day diet. That is again based on more protein and 2 fruits a day. I also have 2 helpings of yogurt.
I do not think i can afford ip.can you pl tell me which protein food you can bave as substitute of powder and how much?
Btw, i eat chicken..lean,salman,tilapia,tuna,cheese and yogurt.
I feel prooud of you mainteners and get inspired because of you.

woolberger
08-12-2011, 08:29 PM
Hi woolburger,
I am way behind my target weight. I am doing 17 day diet. That is again based on more protein and 2 fruits a day. I also have 2 helpings of yogurt.
I do not think i can afford ip.can you pl tell me which protein food you can bave as substitute of powder and how much?
Btw, i eat chicken..lean,salman,tilapia,tuna,cheese and yogurt.
I feel prooud of you mainteners and get inspired because of you.

I'm not sure I can be of much help here. I used IP products throughout my weightloss. I continue to use some alternatives that I buy from Lindora & Nashua. During phase 1, the IP packet contained 15-18 grams of protein and 4-9 grams of carbs. We ate 3 per day. Anyone else who used alternatives want to chime in?

jennydoodle
08-12-2011, 09:25 PM
I believe there is an entire "sticky" thread dedicated to alternative products. The very first week I did IP I did alternatives because I was ready to get started and my appointment was a week away. I used EAS carb control shakes and Pure Protein Bars.

Oh- and I will definitely be staying on top of this thread. I am still a ways from maintainence, but you voiced my biggest fear and I love to hear about people who are actually maintaining on maintainence and how they are doing it.

Bling
08-13-2011, 06:08 AM
Lynn,
I'm so glad your talking about maintenance and I hope this thread continues and becomes helpful. Can you tell me what you mean by "I did track my intake using MFP for the first 4 months and it really helped".
My friend who is also doing IP with me(Thank God I have her there to keep me going) were walking last night and talking about the very same fear when we reach Phase 4. We are about 7-8lbs away to our goal. Our coach has never been on IP and not very helpful and when reading about maintenance it sounds so complicated. I rely alot on this forum for guidance and I know that I can get my questions answered here.

bigpassport
08-13-2011, 11:03 AM
I've been lurking (and learning) here since I started IP in May. This is my first post! Starting weight was 169 and I hit my goal of 140 a couple of weeks ago. I was actually down to 135.6 yesterday! I went from a size 16 to a size 8. I'm 5'8". I never in my life thought I'd be a size 8. Amazing. DH has lost approx 50 lbs too. He went from a size 42 to size 34. He looks like a different person. We are starting Phase 3 tomorrow. We are going grocery shopping today and planning our breakfasts for the week. I'd love to join the Maintainers club if you're still taking new members!

susanpaige
08-13-2011, 12:26 PM
This thread is a great idea! I have been in Phase for a little over a year. Recently with the start of a new school year, I let a few pounds creep on with bad choices. I will be watching it all closely until i am back at goal. Then, I need to be careful and not make so many bad choice so close together!! Wish me luck!

woolberger
08-13-2011, 12:28 PM
Lynn,
I'm so glad your talking about maintenance and I hope this thread continues and becomes helpful. Can you tell me what you mean by "I did track my intake using MFP for the first 4 months and it really helped".
My friend who is also doing IP with me(Thank God I have her there to keep me going) were walking last night and talking about the very same fear when we reach Phase 4. We are about 7-8lbs away to our goal. Our coach has never been on IP and not very helpful and when reading about maintenance it sounds so complicated. I rely alot on this forum for guidance and I know that I can get my questions answered here.

Hi Bling,

Way to go being so close to goal. I am so glad there are other people out there who want to talk about maintenance.
MFP is my fitness pal dot com. It is a free online food tracking program that has thousands of foods in it's database including Ideal Protein foods and alternatives.
I do have trouble following IP's phase 4 exactly. It makes perfect sense but I can't seem to get into the rhythm of it. Read Dr. Tran Tien Chanh's book if you haven't already. It's very motivating. The link to it is on the first post of every daily or weekend chat.

I've been lurking (and learning) here since I started IP in May. This is my first post! Starting weight was 169 and I hit my goal of 140 a couple of weeks ago. I was actually down to 135.6 yesterday! I went from a size 16 to a size 8. I'm 5'8". I never in my life thought I'd be a size 8. Amazing. DH has lost approx 50 lbs too. He went from a size 42 to size 34. He looks like a different person. We are starting Phase 3 tomorrow. We are going grocery shopping today and planning our breakfasts for the week. I'd love to join the Maintainers club if you're still taking new members!

Congratulations on reaching your goal!! You should be so proud! And welcome to 3FC. This is a great place to exchange ideas, share new finds and get support. Have fun with your phase 3 breakfasts. So good.:D
It will be great to have you and your hubby join us.

Lynn

Lucky Chick
08-13-2011, 12:34 PM
Howdy Lynn and others! I must not have been on-line the day you created this and with all of the new threads that are opened daily I didn't see it. I was just going to PM you to see if you decided not to create a the thread!

I'm up a bit and need to figure out what I'm going to do next. At the moment I've decided not to panic and keep on keeping on, but eventually I'll need to draw a line in the sand if I'm going the wrong way.

I am now running at least 3 days a week, so I expect my weight could go up a bit with the change in my body, but hope that it would then go back down. My clothes still fit, so again I'm not freaking out, but I'm up about 2 over my goal which is about 6.5 over my lowest point.

Any thoughts? Should I jump to phase 1 for a bit to get back down, or just chug along for a couple more weeks to see if I stay steady? I also JUST finished the worst TOM ever.

Thanks for starting this, Lynn!

Chris

woolberger
08-13-2011, 02:00 PM
Howdy Lynn and others! I must not have been on-line the day you created this and with all of the new threads that are opened daily I didn't see it. I was just going to PM you to see if you decided not to create a the thread!

I'm up a bit and need to figure out what I'm going to do next. At the moment I've decided not to panic and keep on keeping on, but eventually I'll need to draw a line in the sand if I'm going the wrong way.

I am now running at least 3 days a week, so I expect my weight could go up a bit with the change in my body, but hope that it would then go back down. My clothes still fit, so again I'm not freaking out, but I'm up about 2 over my goal which is about 6.5 over my lowest point.

Any thoughts? Should I jump to phase 1 for a bit to get back down, or just chug along for a couple more weeks to see if I stay steady? I also JUST finished the worst TOM ever.

Thanks for starting this, Lynn!

Chris

Hi Chris!

It sounds like you are doing really well. I think we all get stuck with this number that we picked out of thin air when we were unhappy with the way we looked. We called it our "goal" weight. Now we feel that we have to attain or maintain that weight. If you feel good, your clothes fit and you like the way you look, then I think you are good. I have the same problem. I try to go by the fit of my clothes but I'm on that scale every morning. I did change my original "out of thin air" goal weight of 125 to 130 when I was losing as I felt like my face was looking too gaunt. I am trying to think in terms of maintaining this size. I am doing Pilates 3x/wk and riding my bike so hopefully that will help. Glad you found the thread.

Lynn

cinthia
08-13-2011, 02:18 PM
I am using EAS and muscle mild premixed protein drinks. They seem to really help! I have read it is good to drink the muscle milk at night because it has good amino acids. I can't afford the IP products either. As long as you lose and feel good-kee doing what your doing!:carrot:

Susank2
08-14-2011, 09:13 AM
Hi Chris!

It sounds like you are doing really well. I think we all get stuck with this number that we picked out of thin air when we were unhappy with the way we looked. We called it our "goal" weight. Now we feel that we have to attain or maintain that weight. If you feel good, your clothes fit and you like the way you look, then I think you are good. I have the same problem. I try to go by the fit of my clothes but I'm on that scale every morning. I did change my original "out of thin air" goal weight of 125 to 130 when I was losing as I felt like my face was looking too gaunt. I am trying to think in terms of maintaining this size. I am doing Pilates 3x/wk and riding my bike so hopefully that will help. Glad you found the thread.

Lynn

I do the same thing! I'm on that scale every morning and it freaks me out to see it going up. I try to tell myself that my clothes are still fitting and I'm eating OP and they said it was normal to gain a few back. I do exercise and I feel fit and happy so as long as I don't gain a lot back, I'm going to keep telling myself that I'm happy with the way I look and stop being so hard on me!!

bigpassport
08-14-2011, 09:54 AM
I now understand how people with anorexia or other eating disorders can have such a distorted body image and obsess about their weight. Even though in my head I know that my weight and clothing size are probably ideal for my height now, I look in the mirror and see the same old areas of fat on my body (thighs!) and now look at size 8 or medium clothes and think "that looks big." I agree with you, Lynn, that the goals we set were arbitrary. When we had weight to lose, how were we supposed to know how much 20-30-40-etc. lbs lost would look and feel like?! I guess part of maintenance is learning how to eat to maintain the weight loss and drop a few pounds when the weight starts to creep back up. I do feel that in IP I've found a weight loss program that allows me change my eating habits for life and control my weight. So I'm nervous about Phase 3 and 4, but also optimistic.

Lee

longdivision
08-14-2011, 10:07 AM
Good Morning Everyone!

Check out the thread "How does it feel to reach goal?", post 7 from Longdivision. I think she says it all...very well. I hope she joins us over here.

I am at my goal weight today!! Yay!! Have a great day!

Lynn

aww, thanks lynn!!! that was really sweet! you know, i always feel like i'm being attacked when i write posts like that. people don't seem to like anything even slightly negative, even if it is the truth. from people who aren't even close to the end, it is always "oh, it's fantastic, i feel fantastic, don't be discouraged, everything will be perfect when you reach goal", which, as we all know is soooooooo untrue. but nobody wants to hear that there is a possibility that you will still have big issues that you didn't even think of when you are done. i always feel like it's my job to let people know, because though i really don't want to discourage anyone, i think it is much much better to be informed and know what you may or may no be getting into.so, i am very glad that you appreciated my post, because i feel like everyone else on that thread thinks i am just this negative person with issues that they will never have!

so happy to be here by the way!!!

MInewgoal
08-14-2011, 10:30 AM
aww, thanks lynn!!! that was really sweet! you know, i always feel like i'm being attacked when i write posts like that. people don't seem to like anything even slightly negative, even if it is the truth. from people who aren't even close to the end, it is always "oh, it's fantastic, i feel fantastic, don't be discouraged, everything will be perfect when you reach goal", which, as we all know is soooooooo untrue. but nobody wants to hear that there is a possibility that you will still have big issues that you didn't even think of when you are done. i always feel like it's my job to let people know, because though i really don't want to discourage anyone, i think it is much much better to be informed and know what you may or may no be getting into.so, i am very glad that you appreciated my post, because i feel like everyone else on that thread thinks i am just this negative person with issues that they will never have!

so happy to be here by the way!!!
I don't think anybody thought you were a negative person. Being so close to goal...I'm kind of right where you are in that post. I think you said it perfectly! :hug:

ItsAboutTime
08-14-2011, 10:41 AM
aww, thanks lynn!!! that was really sweet! you know, i always feel like i'm being attacked when i write posts like that. people don't seem to like anything even slightly negative, even if it is the truth. from people who aren't even close to the end, it is always "oh, it's fantastic, i feel fantastic, don't be discouraged, everything will be perfect when you reach goal", which, as we all know is soooooooo untrue. but nobody wants to hear that there is a possibility that you will still have big issues that you didn't even think of when you are done. i always feel like it's my job to let people know, because though i really don't want to discourage anyone, i think it is much much better to be informed and know what you may or may no be getting into.so, i am very glad that you appreciated my post, because i feel like everyone else on that thread thinks i am just this negative person with issues that they will never have!

so happy to be here by the way!!!

I'm not close to goal at all but wanted to let you know that most of us want to hear the truth....good or bad. I am noticing some issues, not big ones but ones we will have to work through, with my husband as I lose the weight. I am about where I usually end (maybe 8-10 pounds more) and where he likes me to be. I am nowhere near happy with it and know I have a long ways to go. I want to reach goal for once and as I get smaller he gets just a little more insecure. I wish he knew I wasn't changing who I am or how I love him, just my outside appearance but it's not me he's having problems with, it's the men who are "noticing" me. He loves the change but it scares him at the same time. Anyone else had to deal with this? As much as we think it will cure all problems I honestly think it will just bring on new ones, like I'm facing now. Thanks for your honesty.

Lone Loser
08-14-2011, 07:36 PM
Yes, I want to hear the truth too. and I am struggling too.

At first I lost weight so fast and now that I'm nearing goal -- I am losing may 1/2 pound a week. I still feel like that 170 pound grandma and I'm afraid the weight will come back if I am not careful (as I've lost weight before on other plans and then -- before you know it, it's baaaaack). And my body shows the abuse of being overweight (and the 54 years old that it is) -- and it looks better with clothes on it.

It is reassuring in many ways to know that I'm not the only one feeling this way -- I'm sorry that it has to be you gals (or anyone else, for that matter). No matter how old you are, this is an incredible and exciting, yet very scarey, journey.

woolberger
08-15-2011, 10:28 AM
Happy Monday.

So glad to see others here. Hope everyone had a great weekend.

I have this great crop of tomatoes coming in. I made fresh salsa but, of course, ate it with chips. Does anyone have a favorite lower carb chip or chip substitute? Eating salsa with celery or another green veggie just isn't as satisfying. I've been experimenting with kohlrabi & daikon radish but haven't gotten them crispy & strong enough for salsa. I'm sure there are things I haven't even thought of.

That said, I ate waaaay too many chips yesterday so I guess it's a phase II day for me today.

Lynn

MInewgoal
08-15-2011, 01:30 PM
Happy Monday.

So glad to see others here. Hope everyone had a great weekend.

I have this great crop of tomatoes coming in. I made fresh salsa but, of course, ate it with chips. Does anyone have a favorite lower carb chip or chip substitute? Eating salsa with celery or another green veggie just isn't as satisfying. I've been experimenting with kohlrabi & daikon radish but haven't gotten them crispy & strong enough for salsa. I'm sure there are things I haven't even thought of.

That said, I ate waaaay too many chips yesterday so I guess it's a phase II day for me today.

Lynn

Kale chips maybe???

Lucky Chick
08-15-2011, 01:32 PM
Mmm... chips and salsa. Yummy! I don't have any chip alternatives to share, but I hope someone else does. I basically did fine over the weekend, but I'm still concerned I could be on an upward trend. I'm no higher than I was, but I don't know that I'm any lower.

I'm going to give it a couple days before I get too concerned. (Hmmm... have I said that before?)

woolberger
08-15-2011, 01:40 PM
Mmm... chips and salsa. Yummy! I don't have any chip alternatives to share, but I hope someone else does. I basically did fine over the weekend, but I'm still concerned I could be on an upward trend. I'm no higher than I was, but I don't know that I'm any lower.

I'm going to give it a couple days before I get too concerned. (Hmmm... have I said that before?)

Staying the same doesn't sound like an upward trend to me. Good job!:hug:

francess
08-15-2011, 01:44 PM
OMG! I'm so happy to know that I'm not alone. I'm on Phase 4 since 3 weeks and it's a worst battle than when I were on Phase 1! I'm always on the scale to know if I gain weight, looking at my belly and my legs and looking at my jeans when I wear them. I'm totally obsess and want to try to lose an other 5 lbs just "to be sure". I'm doing exercices each day but don't see any changes and my BF is going crazy when I told him that I can't eat Subway for lunch with him 'cause i'm suposed to eat a fat at lunch and carb for dinner and we know that we are going to eat prosciutto pasta. I have the impression to be saddest than before my weight loss. Yes, i'm happy to be thinner but I don't want to always have the impression to live in a "Boot camp"!! Thanks to show me that i'm not alone :)

MInewgoal
08-15-2011, 04:44 PM
So..I was reading Dr. Trans book again, and I prolly will one more time before I hit phase 4, but I was wondering if any of you on phase 4 stop eating by a certain time? Do you give yourself 12 hours of Non-eating, or do you just eat as you were?

thanks

SJackson
08-15-2011, 06:55 PM
Hi everyone!!! I was a regular on the daily IP chat during phase 1-4. I'm now totally in maintenance and felt the need to come back. I've been on maintenance since May and I've noticed the past 3-4 weeks a couple of pounds trying to creep back in. I'm fighting to get rid them now and have gone back to the basics. I have some IP products left and I have purchased a few from other sites that are comparable to IP. The one thing I can't find is one of the vitamins. The potassium/calcium. I think I will contact my coach and just buy them from her and be done with it. I think this site is a great way for me to seek the support that I loved when I first started this journey last October!!! I look forward to everyone's input and support.

SJackson
08-15-2011, 07:00 PM
aww, thanks lynn!!! that was really sweet! you know, i always feel like i'm being attacked when i write posts like that. people don't seem to like anything even slightly negative, even if it is the truth. from people who aren't even close to the end, it is always "oh, it's fantastic, i feel fantastic, don't be discouraged, everything will be perfect when you reach goal", which, as we all know is soooooooo untrue. but nobody wants to hear that there is a possibility that you will still have big issues that you didn't even think of when you are done. i always feel like it's my job to let people know, because though i really don't want to discourage anyone, i think it is much much better to be informed and know what you may or may no be getting into.so, i am very glad that you appreciated my post, because i feel like everyone else on that thread thinks i am just this negative person with issues that they will never have!

so happy to be here by the way!!!

Hi Laura!!! I always loved reading your posts on the daily threads!! Congrats on your reaching your goal weight, you look marvelous!!!

maykatcooper
08-15-2011, 07:18 PM
YAY! I've found a home! Thank you so much for putting your idea into motion woolberger! I began maintenance 2 weeks ago due to shoulder surgery. I am amazed that it is really working. Smile. The freedom to still have explosive blowouts of celebration with food is not a hindrance anymore. My second legal cheat was yesterday and the desire for "the cheatables" was barely even there. What an amazing program for life this is! Smile. I look forward to hearing what each of you has to say about how your lives are going post phase 3!

woolberger
08-15-2011, 09:20 PM
OMG! I'm so happy to know that I'm not alone. I'm on Phase 4 since 3 weeks and it's a worst battle than when I were on Phase 1! I'm always on the scale to know if I gain weight, looking at my belly and my legs and looking at my jeans when I wear them. I'm totally obsess and want to try to lose an other 5 lbs just "to be sure". I'm doing exercices each day but don't see any changes and my BF is going crazy when I told him that I can't eat Subway for lunch with him 'cause i'm suposed to eat a fat at lunch and carb for dinner and we know that we are going to eat prosciutto pasta. I have the impression to be saddest than before my weight loss. Yes, i'm happy to be thinner but I don't want to always have the impression to live in a "Boot camp"!! Thanks to show me that i'm not alone :)

Welcome. We are all right there with you. I still feel a bit obsessed on this plan. That being said...you can easily order a salad at Subway with oil & vinegar dressing. They will make it anyway you want. Do you have Jimmy John's where you are? It is a sub shop that will make any sandwich wrapped in a lettuce leaf. I think we need to learn to think "outside the bun". Oh wait...that's Taco Bell.

So..I was reading Dr. Trans book again, and I prolly will one more time before I hit phase 4, but I was wondering if any of you on phase 4 stop eating by a certain time? Do you give yourself 12 hours of Non-eating, or do you just eat as you were?

thanks

Does he advocate a fasting period each night?? Shoot. I need to read his book again. It has been a while. What does he recommend?

Hi everyone!!! I was a regular on the daily IP chat during phase 1-4. I'm now totally in maintenance and felt the need to come back. I've been on maintenance since May and I've noticed the past 3-4 weeks a couple of pounds trying to creep back in. I'm fighting to get rid them now and have gone back to the basics. I have some IP products left and I have purchased a few from other sites that are comparable to IP. The one thing I can't find is one of the vitamins. The potassium/calcium. I think I will contact my coach and just buy them from her and be done with it. I think this site is a great way for me to seek the support that I loved when I first started this journey last October!!! I look forward to everyone's input and support.

Hey...Welcome back. I have been on this site for 6 months and I have never heard that anyone found a good substitute for the IP potassium/calcium. Probably should just get it from your coach. Since I am on maintenance, no one questions anything I buy.

YAY! I've found a home! Thank you so much for putting your idea into motion woolberger! I began maintenance 2 weeks ago due to shoulder surgery. I am amazed that it is really working. Smile. The freedom to still have explosive blowouts of celebration with food is not a hindrance anymore. My second legal cheat was yesterday and the desire for "the cheatables" was barely even there. What an amazing program for life this is! Smile. I look forward to hearing what each of you has to say about how your lives are going post phase 3!

So glad you are here! I continue to enjoy my spiral veggie cutter. You are always motivating and full of good ideas. Keep them coming!

Hope your recuperation is proceeding well.

capricious
08-15-2011, 10:26 PM
Thank-you Lynn for starting this thread... I'm in my second week of Phase 3 and will be finishing up on Thursday... I've loved all the support I found thru the first three phases on 3fc and I'm glad that there is now a thread for the maintenance crew- as this is probably the most important part...
I now understand how people with anorexia or other eating disorders can have such a distorted body image and obsess about their weight. Even though in my head I know that my weight and clothing size are probably ideal for my height now, I look in the mirror and see the same old areas of fat on my body (thighs!) and now look at size 8 or medium clothes and think "that looks big." I agree with you, Lynn, that the goals we set were arbitrary. When we had weight to lose, how were we supposed to know how much 20-30-40-etc. lbs lost would look and feel like?! I guess part of maintenance is learning how to eat to maintain the weight loss and drop a few pounds when the weight starts to creep back up. I do feel that in IP I've found a weight loss program that allows me change my eating habits for life and control my weight. So I'm nervous about Phase 3 and 4, but also optimistic.

Lee
I totally agree with this. It is so impossible to know what you will look like after you shrink and really how are we supposed to know when to say when? It's so easy to focus on the parts that still need work rather than seeing the parts that really don't. I saw my upper ribs (like the part above my boobs) thru the skin and was like, whoa, when did those get there?? And yet, I find myself mildly disgusted with the chub that remains on my belly and thighs... Sigh... Acceptance is very difficult... But hey I'll take chubby thighs & belly over fat thighs & belly any day of the week ;)

aww, thanks lynn!!! that was really sweet! you know, i always feel like i'm being attacked when i write posts like that. people don't seem to like anything even slightly negative, even if it is the truth. from people who aren't even close to the end, it is always "oh, it's fantastic, i feel fantastic, don't be discouraged, everything will be perfect when you reach goal", which, as we all know is soooooooo untrue. but nobody wants to hear that there is a possibility that you will still have big issues that you didn't even think of when you are done. i always feel like it's my job to let people know, because though i really don't want to discourage anyone, i think it is much much better to be informed and know what you may or may no be getting into.so, i am very glad that you appreciated my post, because i feel like everyone else on that thread thinks i am just this negative person with issues that they will never have!

so happy to be here by the way!!!
I don't think you were being negative- just offering perspective- and that's what the asker was asking for. As my dad says don't ask a question if you're not prepared for the answer...

Happy Monday.

So glad to see others here. Hope everyone had a great weekend.

I have this great crop of tomatoes coming in. I made fresh salsa but, of course, ate it with chips. Does anyone have a favorite lower carb chip or chip substitute? Eating salsa with celery or another green veggie just isn't as satisfying. I've been experimenting with kohlrabi & daikon radish but haven't gotten them crispy & strong enough for salsa. I'm sure there are things I haven't even thought of.

That said, I ate waaaay too many chips yesterday so I guess it's a phase II day for me today.

Lynn
Have you ever tried making turnip chips?

Hi everyone!!! I was a regular on the daily IP chat during phase 1-4. I'm now totally in maintenance and felt the need to come back. I've been on maintenance since May and I've noticed the past 3-4 weeks a couple of pounds trying to creep back in. I'm fighting to get rid them now and have gone back to the basics. I have some IP products left and I have purchased a few from other sites that are comparable to IP. The one thing I can't find is one of the vitamins. The potassium/calcium. I think I will contact my coach and just buy them from her and be done with it. I think this site is a great way for me to seek the support that I loved when I first started this journey last October!!! I look forward to everyone's input and support.
Wow last October already! And you're still maintaining- thanks for the inspiration! Dr. Tran (and my coach) both mention that we will 'naturally' gain about 6-8 pounds over the course of a year and a once a year 'tune-up' is encouraged. Where in we go through all the phases again to get back to our ideal weight... Welcome Back...

Douger963
08-15-2011, 11:17 PM
I'm 5 lbs from my goal. I've been on phase II for over a month. I'm looking forward to going on phase III. I've lost 12lbs on phase II and feel it's time to move to phase III.

However, I like the idea of this thread, because I had lost and gained back 100lbs before and really don't think I have another big weight loss in me. I'm looking forward to maintenance and planning on this life style change to stick. I'd like this to truly be the last diet.

amaliayosa
08-16-2011, 06:17 AM
Hope to be joining the maintenance crew soon ;) I have tn pounds to go and am already stressing!

Coloradodivegirl
08-16-2011, 09:49 PM
Well well well Woolberger, great thread!!!

I for one havent posted here for a while, sorry it just seem so repeatative to me. I pop on maybe once a month but never post.

I for one have been maintaining for 2.5 months and still weighing anywhere from 102 (4 am) to just under 106 (8 pm) Not to bad for my goal being 110. I have learned so much in this 2.5 months, one being I seem to be carb sensitive, maybe it's just in my mind, IDK. I for one have never feared gaining the weigh back as, as much I really did enjoy this plan, I certainly don't want to do it again. I am a very OCD person and I think it helps me to stay on track.

I eat my yogurt salad every single morning (Greek yogurt, a splash of almond extract, 4 diced strawberries, a handful of blueberries and a 1/2 of handful of walnuts and right before serving I throw in a handful of Fiber one cereal. On the side, I have a few pieces of cantalope & a few grapes. I also feel that not all Greek yogurts are the same, I can't believe I have become a greek yogurt snob, but this girl only eats Dannon. I still do my cooked protein, veggies with butter or cheese for lunch, and a cooked protein and veggie for dinner, or sometimes just a packet depending on if I'm hungry or not. I never eat carbs at night, idk why, I just dont. Carbs anymore freak me out. I do still have my bedtime snack packet. I also hardly eat restricted items, bars just don't seem to satisfy me like a pudding does, unless I'm really craving oatmeal, then I eat cinnamon/apple oatmeal from Lindora. I also still have one "free day" once a week, and boy does this girl indulge! :) Next day, Phase 1 and I'm like new again. :) :)

I have my "one month" WI on Thursday, only 1.5 months late. lol. I was suppose to go in on July 5th, but I spent 4th of July weekend in Maryland meeting my favorite Caylee Anthony blogger for the 1st time, and there was no way I was hitting the scale the day after that weekend, or at least, not in front of my coach! *tee hee* The only reason I'm doing my WI is I do miss my coach and I need my favorite, Crispy Cereal & Dark Chocolate pudding. YUM!

I get most of my packets now from Lindora or Nashua, as I will always have packets in my life, I feel safe with them in my cabinet. I have been learning how to cook low carb and have found it to be fun! Most of the stuff tastes better then the high carb version! Meatloaf is my new kick! lol. I still cook a lot of protein on Sunday's and freeze them in little single serving baggies for ease of my during the week lunches, and dinners.

My coffee "creamer & sugar" is 1/2 of a GNC Lean shake, those things are so darn good and cheap too, especially if you can buy them on BOGO. I buy those things by the cases! Hubby things I'm high on protein or something. lol.

I do kind of worry about this winter tho, when fruits & veggies aren't as good. Seems like fruit in the winter just isn't sweet and melons are hard and just down right yucky, not to mention, expensive.

I can honestly say that this his truly been a lifestyle change for me! I think the once a week free day helps me to make the right choices for the next 6 days, after all, look how quickly a week goes by!

Since I'm here and yacking... lol. I'll share a old family recipe with you guys. It's easy, delish and low carb.

Italian Green Beans

4 cans cut green beans
1 or 2 cans petite diced tomatoes (depending how much you like tomatoes)
8 - 10 cloves of garlic (peeled but whole)
1 tube of Jimmy Dean Hot Sausage.
Sea Salt & Pepper

Brown sausage, drain of fat. Throw everyone in a cassarole dish and cover. Bake 350 degrees for, Idk, about 30 - 45 minutes.

I wish you all the very best with your maintanence! Make the right choices, do the right thing and this will be your last diet!!!!

Thank you blog, as I read with you 6 months before I started and posted and read throughout this experience, there is no way I could have done this without all of you! You guys made me believe in myself and taught me to "take the leap" I am sooo happy that I did! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

brummie
08-16-2011, 10:13 PM
Well well well Woolberger, great thread!!!

I for one havent posted here for a while, sorry it just seem so repeatative to me. I pop on maybe once a month but never post.

I for one have been maintaining for 2.5 months and still weighing anywhere from 102 (4 am) to just under 106 (8 pm) Not to bad for my goal being 110. I have learned so much in this 2.5 months, one being I seem to be carb sensitive, maybe it's just in my mind, IDK. I for one have never feared gaining the weigh back as, as much I really did enjoy this plan, I certainly don't want to do it again. I am a very OCD person and I think it helps me to stay on track.

I eat my yogurt salad every single morning (Greek yogurt, a splash of almond extract, 4 diced strawberries, a handful of blueberries and a 1/2 of handful of walnuts and right before serving I throw in a handful of Fiber one cereal. On the side, I have a few pieces of cantalope & a few grapes. I also feel that not all Greek yogurts are the same, I can't believe I have become a greek yogurt snob, but this girl only eats Dannon. I still do my cooked protein, veggies with butter or cheese for lunch, and a cooked protein and veggie for dinner, or sometimes just a packet depending on if I'm hungry or not. I never eat carbs at night, idk why, I just dont. Carbs anymore freak me out. I do still have my bedtime snack packet. I also hardly eat restricted items, bars just don't seem to satisfy me like a pudding does, unless I'm really craving oatmeal, then I eat cinnamon/apple oatmeal from Lindora. I also still have one "free day" once a week, and boy does this girl indulge! :) Next day, Phase 1 and I'm like new again. :) :)

I have my "one month" WI on Thursday, only 1.5 months late. lol. I was suppose to go in on July 5th, but I spent 4th of July weekend in Maryland meeting my favorite Caylee Anthony blogger for the 1st time, and there was no way I was hitting the scale the day after that weekend, or at least, not in front of my coach! *tee hee* The only reason I'm doing my WI is I do miss my coach and I need my favorite, Crispy Cereal & Dark Chocolate pudding. YUM!

I get most of my packets now from Lindora or Nashua, as I will always have packets in my life, I feel safe with them in my cabinet. I have been learning how to cook low carb and have found it to be fun! Most of the stuff tastes better then the high carb version! Meatloaf is my new kick! lol. I still cook a lot of protein on Sunday's and freeze them in little single serving baggies for ease of my during the week lunches, and dinners.

My coffee "creamer & sugar" is 1/2 of a GNC Lean shake, those things are so darn good and cheap too, especially if you can buy them on BOGO. I buy those things by the cases! Hubby things I'm high on protein or something. lol.

I do kind of worry about this winter tho, when fruits & veggies aren't as good. Seems like fruit in the winter just isn't sweet and melons are hard and just down right yucky, not to mention, expensive.

I can honestly say that this his truly been a lifestyle change for me! I think the once a week free day helps me to make the right choices for the next 6 days, after all, look how quickly a week goes by!

Since I'm here and yacking... lol. I'll share a old family recipe with you guys. It's easy, delish and low carb.

Italian Green Beans

4 cans cut green beans
1 or 2 cans petite diced tomatoes (depending how much you like tomatoes)
8 - 10 cloves of garlic (peeled but whole)
1 tube of Jimmy Dean Hot Sausage.
Sea Salt & Pepper

Brown sausage, drain of fat. Throw everyone in a cassarole dish and cover. Bake 350 degrees for, Idk, about 30 - 45 minutes.

I wish you all the very best with your maintanence! Make the right choices, do the right thing and this will be your last diet!!!!

Thank you blog, as I read with you 6 months before I started and posted and read throughout this experience, there is no way I could have done this without all of you! You guys made me believe in myself and taught me to "take the leap" I am sooo happy that I did! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

What a fantastic and informative post!! Thanks so much!...I'm on phase 3 right now and you just reminded me to quit stressing so much about phase 4 - you are doing such a great job! Your sample daily menu is just what I needed to read. thanks!
Do any of the other phase 4'ers mind sharing an example of a day's menu plan?

woolberger
08-16-2011, 10:23 PM
I'm 5 lbs from my goal. I've been on phase II for over a month. I'm looking forward to going on phase III. I've lost 12lbs on phase II and feel it's time to move to phase III.

However, I like the idea of this thread, because I had lost and gained back 100lbs before and really don't think I have another big weight loss in me. I'm looking forward to maintenance and planning on this life style change to stick. I'd like this to truly be the last diet.

Glad you are here. I think maintenance is the hardest! Always looking for new ideas to keep us all motivated.

Hope to be joining the maintenance crew soon ;) I have tn pounds to go and am already stressing!

Don't stress. You are doing great. I don't think I have seen anyone lose so quickly! WTG!

woolberger
08-16-2011, 10:40 PM
Well well well Woolberger, great thread!!!

I for one havent posted here for a while, sorry it just seem so repeatative to me. I pop on maybe once a month but never post.

I for one have been maintaining for 2.5 months and still weighing anywhere from 102 (4 am) to just under 106 (8 pm) Not to bad for my goal being 110. I have learned so much in this 2.5 months, one being I seem to be carb sensitive, maybe it's just in my mind, IDK. I for one have never feared gaining the weigh back as, as much I really did enjoy this plan, I certainly don't want to do it again. I am a very OCD person and I think it helps me to stay on track.

I eat my yogurt salad every single morning (Greek yogurt, a splash of almond extract, 4 diced strawberries, a handful of blueberries and a 1/2 of handful of walnuts and right before serving I throw in a handful of Fiber one cereal. On the side, I have a few pieces of cantalope & a few grapes. I also feel that not all Greek yogurts are the same, I can't believe I have become a greek yogurt snob, but this girl only eats Dannon. I still do my cooked protein, veggies with butter or cheese for lunch, and a cooked protein and veggie for dinner, or sometimes just a packet depending on if I'm hungry or not. I never eat carbs at night, idk why, I just dont. Carbs anymore freak me out. I do still have my bedtime snack packet. I also hardly eat restricted items, bars just don't seem to satisfy me like a pudding does, unless I'm really craving oatmeal, then I eat cinnamon/apple oatmeal from Lindora. I also still have one "free day" once a week, and boy does this girl indulge! :) Next day, Phase 1 and I'm like new again. :) :)

I have my "one month" WI on Thursday, only 1.5 months late. lol. I was suppose to go in on July 5th, but I spent 4th of July weekend in Maryland meeting my favorite Caylee Anthony blogger for the 1st time, and there was no way I was hitting the scale the day after that weekend, or at least, not in front of my coach! *tee hee* The only reason I'm doing my WI is I do miss my coach and I need my favorite, Crispy Cereal & Dark Chocolate pudding. YUM!

I get most of my packets now from Lindora or Nashua, as I will always have packets in my life, I feel safe with them in my cabinet. I have been learning how to cook low carb and have found it to be fun! Most of the stuff tastes better then the high carb version! Meatloaf is my new kick! lol. I still cook a lot of protein on Sunday's and freeze them in little single serving baggies for ease of my during the week lunches, and dinners.

My coffee "creamer & sugar" is 1/2 of a GNC Lean shake, those things are so darn good and cheap too, especially if you can buy them on BOGO. I buy those things by the cases! Hubby things I'm high on protein or something. lol.

I do kind of worry about this winter tho, when fruits & veggies aren't as good. Seems like fruit in the winter just isn't sweet and melons are hard and just down right yucky, not to mention, expensive.

I can honestly say that this his truly been a lifestyle change for me! I think the once a week free day helps me to make the right choices for the next 6 days, after all, look how quickly a week goes by!

Since I'm here and yacking... lol. I'll share a old family recipe with you guys. It's easy, delish and low carb.

Italian Green Beans

4 cans cut green beans
1 or 2 cans petite diced tomatoes (depending how much you like tomatoes)
8 - 10 cloves of garlic (peeled but whole)
1 tube of Jimmy Dean Hot Sausage.
Sea Salt & Pepper

Brown sausage, drain of fat. Throw everyone in a cassarole dish and cover. Bake 350 degrees for, Idk, about 30 - 45 minutes.

I wish you all the very best with your maintanence! Make the right choices, do the right thing and this will be your last diet!!!!

Thank you blog, as I read with you 6 months before I started and posted and read throughout this experience, there is no way I could have done this without all of you! You guys made me believe in myself and taught me to "take the leap" I am sooo happy that I did! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Sherry,

So good to hear from you! It sounds like you are doing so well. It is because of you that my Dad & I watched the Casey Anthony trial this summer. (He lives with me.) What was your connection?

We live so close. We've probably passed by each other.

Lynn

Coloradodivegirl
08-16-2011, 10:46 PM
LOL Woolberger! I'm glad I'm not the only one who wasn't 2 months of my life watching that damn trial! AGH!

I didn't have a personal connection to the case, I just started following the second I heard the "31 days" I then found myself reading on this blog on Fox Orlando and before ya knew it, I was posting with them. We blogged together for 3 years, and that blog is still going on. Wonderful friendships were made and many of the bloggers have met. Justice wasn't served for such a beautiful little girl, but she sure brought a lot of people together for love and friendship. I sure hope karma gets Casey and I do mean soon!

Arent you in Boulder Woolberger??

Sorry blog, for the off topic!

Coloradodivegirl
08-16-2011, 10:47 PM
You are from Boulder! I see that now! DUH me! My little blogger friend that I went to meet in MD, her hubby was here in Boulder for 6 weeks working for some of his friends. I got to meet him too, but we met here in Denver.

Coloradodivegirl
08-16-2011, 10:49 PM
The last time I was in Boulder, I was driving thru, making my way to Longmont to go Skydiving.

Coloradodivegirl
08-16-2011, 10:56 PM
Well my tummy is full of my oatmeal packet and now I'm sleepy.. lol.

Woolberger, I'll pop in again and see if your around. It was nice chatting with ya and sorry that I got you in to the bogus trial, what a bunch of sh!t.
Sorry, if I could find those jurors, I would shake the **** out of them!

Happy night and happy week Wool! :)

brandam6
08-16-2011, 11:01 PM
Howdy! So far I have been maintaining, even though I have not been eating the way it says to everyday. I have been tracking my calories, it's been anywhere between 1100 and 1500 calories a day. When I have had carbs and fats together, I try to keep the serving small. My schedule has been out of whack, though, as I have been off work, and getting the kids back to school, and preparing to go to Vegas. I am looking forward to Vegas this weekend, but I am also anticipating next week when I can get into a groove with all of this.

And boy, did I forget how filling carbs are. I feel like a pig when I eat them, and then guilty, even when I do it right.

aww, thanks lynn!!! that was really sweet! you know, i always feel like i'm being attacked when i write posts like that. people don't seem to like anything even slightly negative, even if it is the truth. from people who aren't even close to the end, it is always "oh, it's fantastic, i feel fantastic, don't be discouraged, everything will be perfect when you reach goal", which, as we all know is soooooooo untrue. but nobody wants to hear that there is a possibility that you will still have big issues that you didn't even think of when you are done. i always feel like it's my job to let people know, because though i really don't want to discourage anyone, i think it is much much better to be informed and know what you may or may no be getting into.so, i am very glad that you appreciated my post, because i feel like everyone else on that thread thinks i am just this negative person with issues that they will never have!

so happy to be here by the way!!!

I appreciated it too, I was gonna post a "I concur" but I was short of time. Everything you said is true. I will never be happy with the way my body looks, but I knew that going into this. I knew I would have a wrinkly stomach and other saggy parts. I knew would never be a swimsuit model. When I was 18 and weighed 140 I wasn't happy then (boy, do I wish I would've known then what I know now) so why would I be happy now at 36 and 150? I shouldn't say that I am not happy, because I am (emotionally). But I still don't line the way my body looks. But I wasn't losing weight to try and solve other problems in my life the way some do. I guess my expectations weren't real high that losing weight would make my life wonderful and fix all my problems. I still don't like what I see in the mirror before I get into the shower. My body is just as imperfect as it ever was. Maybe I have body dismorphic (sp?) disorder, I don't know. Losing weight surely won't fix that, and I spent all my money on this diet, so no money left for therapy...so I'll just go with complacency.

But there are other benefits other than vanity. I feel so much better, I sleep better, I breathe better, My knees and hips don't hurt, I can buy cuter clothes (ok that one is a vanity).

Happy Monday.

So glad to see others here. Hope everyone had a great weekend.

I have this great crop of tomatoes coming in. I made fresh salsa but, of course, ate it with chips. Does anyone have a favorite lower carb chip or chip substitute? Eating salsa with celery or another green veggie just isn't as satisfying. I've been experimenting with kohlrabi & daikon radish but haven't gotten them crispy & strong enough for salsa. I'm sure there are things I haven't even thought of.

That said, I ate waaaay too many chips yesterday so I guess it's a phase II day for me today.

Lynn

What about making your own chips with tortillas? There are some that are lower in net carbs (high fiber) and I think there are some that are lower in overall carbs (gross carbs? lol) I have no idea how they taste, because I haven't tried any yet.

So..I was reading Dr. Trans book again, and I prolly will one more time before I hit phase 4, but I was wondering if any of you on phase 4 stop eating by a certain time? Do you give yourself 12 hours of Non-eating, or do you just eat as you were?

thanks

I go about 10-11 hours. I am still eating a snack at night, because I am a night snacker. Of course I have only been on maintenance for 5 days, so we'll see. I need to go back and read the book again.

woolberger
08-16-2011, 11:02 PM
Well my tummy is full of my oatmeal packet and now I'm sleepy.. lol.

Woolberger, I'll pop in again and see if your around. It was nice chatting with ya and sorry that I got you in to the bogus trial, what a bunch of sh!t.
Sorry, if I could find those jurors, I would shake the **** out of them!

Happy night and happy week Wool! :)

Actually, I am in Louisville, #1 small town in America (I am so smug!! Just ignore me!). Great to talk to you. The trial kept my Dad occupied this summer. Thanks. Glad you are doing well.

Lynn

Lucky Chick
08-17-2011, 02:12 PM
Well, my upward trend may have turned back to a downward trend. Here's hoping. Just as I started to worry I got a pair of pants back from the cleaners that I had sent to get hemmed. They were one of the size 4s I bought when I first went into maintenance and they fit. I need to relax. 4s and 6s are fine with me. 4s and 6s are fine with me. (repeat as necessary)

Sherry, it is great to see you pop in. Your cheerleading has been missed!

woolberger
08-17-2011, 07:37 PM
Howdy! So far I have been maintaining, even though I have not been eating the way it says to everyday. I have been tracking my calories, it's been anywhere between 1100 and 1500 calories a day. When I have had carbs and fats together, I try to keep the serving small. My schedule has been out of whack, though, as I have been off work, and getting the kids back to school, and preparing to go to Vegas. I am looking forward to Vegas this weekend, but I am also anticipating next week when I can get into a groove with all of this.

And boy, did I forget how filling carbs are. I feel like a pig when I eat them, and then guilty, even when I do it right.


What about making your own chips with tortillas? There are some that are lower in net carbs (high fiber) and I think there are some that are lower in overall carbs (gross carbs? lol) I have no idea how they taste, because I haven't tried any yet.



I go about 10-11 hours. I am still eating a snack at night, because I am a night snacker. Of course I have only been on maintenance for 5 days, so we'll see. I need to go back and read the book again.

Brandy,

It sounds like you are doing well. I too do not follow phase 4 as written. I do better tracking.

You are right about the chips. Genisoy actually makes a chip that contains soy. It's available on Netrition. They have less fat and more protein than regular chips. I could also bake some high fiber tortillas as you suggest. I am just trying to work the system so I will be able to eat as much as I want. That has never worked for me before and it won't work now. Thanks for the kick in the pants.:hug:

I need to read the book again too. I don't remember anything about a fasting period.

Lynn

bigpassport
08-18-2011, 12:32 AM
Had my first Phase 3 weigh in today. No weight gain and even lost an inch! Yay. DH was actually down a couple pounds. So I'm feeling more confident that keeping it off is possible. I'm loving My Fitness Pal. Brandy mentioned keeping calories between 1100 and 1500 per day. Are the other maintainers here finding that is a good range for maintenance?

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-18-2011, 12:59 AM
Well well well Woolberger, great thread!!!

I for one havent posted here for a while, sorry it just seem so repeatative to me. I pop on maybe once a month but never post.

I for one have been maintaining for 2.5 months and still weighing anywhere from 102 (4 am) to just under 106 (8 pm) Not to bad for my goal being 110. I have learned so much in this 2.5 months, one being I seem to be carb sensitive, maybe it's just in my mind, IDK. I for one have never feared gaining the weigh back as, as much I really did enjoy this plan, I certainly don't want to do it again. I am a very OCD person and I think it helps me to stay on track.

I eat my yogurt salad every single morning (Greek yogurt, a splash of almond extract, 4 diced strawberries, a handful of blueberries and a 1/2 of handful of walnuts and right before serving I throw in a handful of Fiber one cereal. On the side, I have a few pieces of cantalope & a few grapes. I also feel that not all Greek yogurts are the same, I can't believe I have become a greek yogurt snob, but this girl only eats Dannon. I still do my cooked protein, veggies with butter or cheese for lunch, and a cooked protein and veggie for dinner, or sometimes just a packet depending on if I'm hungry or not. I never eat carbs at night, idk why, I just dont. Carbs anymore freak me out. I do still have my bedtime snack packet. I also hardly eat restricted items, bars just don't seem to satisfy me like a pudding does, unless I'm really craving oatmeal, then I eat cinnamon/apple oatmeal from Lindora. I also still have one "free day" once a week, and boy does this girl indulge! :) Next day, Phase 1 and I'm like new again. :) :)

I have my "one month" WI on Thursday, only 1.5 months late. lol. I was suppose to go in on July 5th, but I spent 4th of July weekend in Maryland meeting my favorite Caylee Anthony blogger for the 1st time, and there was no way I was hitting the scale the day after that weekend, or at least, not in front of my coach! *tee hee* The only reason I'm doing my WI is I do miss my coach and I need my favorite, Crispy Cereal & Dark Chocolate pudding. YUM!

I get most of my packets now from Lindora or Nashua, as I will always have packets in my life, I feel safe with them in my cabinet. I have been learning how to cook low carb and have found it to be fun! Most of the stuff tastes better then the high carb version! Meatloaf is my new kick! lol. I still cook a lot of protein on Sunday's and freeze them in little single serving baggies for ease of my during the week lunches, and dinners.

My coffee "creamer & sugar" is 1/2 of a GNC Lean shake, those things are so darn good and cheap too, especially if you can buy them on BOGO. I buy those things by the cases! Hubby things I'm high on protein or something. lol.

I do kind of worry about this winter tho, when fruits & veggies aren't as good. Seems like fruit in the winter just isn't sweet and melons are hard and just down right yucky, not to mention, expensive.

I can honestly say that this his truly been a lifestyle change for me! I think the once a week free day helps me to make the right choices for the next 6 days, after all, look how quickly a week goes by!

Since I'm here and yacking... lol. I'll share a old family recipe with you guys. It's easy, delish and low carb.

Italian Green Beans

4 cans cut green beans
1 or 2 cans petite diced tomatoes (depending how much you like tomatoes)
8 - 10 cloves of garlic (peeled but whole)
1 tube of Jimmy Dean Hot Sausage.
Sea Salt & Pepper

Brown sausage, drain of fat. Throw everyone in a cassarole dish and cover. Bake 350 degrees for, Idk, about 30 - 45 minutes.

I wish you all the very best with your maintanence! Make the right choices, do the right thing and this will be your last diet!!!!

Thank you blog, as I read with you 6 months before I started and posted and read throughout this experience, there is no way I could have done this without all of you! You guys made me believe in myself and taught me to "take the leap" I am sooo happy that I did! Thank you, thank you, thank you!Welcome back you have been missed as well, you went off to watch the trial and never came back...

This is great information that I am going to store away so when I get to maintenance I will have it.


Woolberger - hey #1 small town? as in the best? or the smallest town? just wondering as my sister lived in Kevin MT and there was maybe 50 people.. and now lives just outside of Sweetgrass MT and has less... but if it is the best small town you could be right.

So did you try the kohlrabi Chips? They would be great with a yogurt dip, or I make the cilantro pesto and dip the chips in that.
Thanks for this thread, I can't wait to say I am a maintainer.:hug:

becca1978
08-18-2011, 11:36 AM
I thought I would post this in here too. I am just confused. I am not sure what I should do.

I am in a healthy weight range right now, but at the upper end. I am at the lowest weight I have been at in 10 years. My brain still hasn't caught up with my body yet. I don't feel skinny or the see the fact that I have lost almost 30 lbs.

My problem is that I am getting too comfortable. I keep cheating. Has anyone when to Phase 4 for a while to try to maintain and then go back to Phase 1 to lose the last bit of weight?

I was 144.4 this morning and am about 5'4". I was thinking on trying to aim towards 130. But I am wondering if I sit at this weight for a while to get used to it and then try to lose the last bit using alternative products. If I keep cheating, they will throw me out of the program anyways. I am going to go 100% until my next WI on Tuesday, so hopefully, I will show a good loss.

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-18-2011, 05:04 PM
I thought I would post this in here too. I am just confused. I am not sure what I should do.

I am in a healthy weight range right now, but at the upper end. I am at the lowest weight I have been at in 10 years. My brain still hasn't caught up with my body yet. I don't feel skinny or the see the fact that I have lost almost 30 lbs.

My problem is that I am getting too comfortable. I keep cheating. Has anyone when to Phase 4 for a while to try to maintain and then go back to Phase 1 to lose the last bit of weight?

I was 144.4 this morning and am about 5'4". I was thinking on trying to aim towards 130. But I am wondering if I sit at this weight for a while to get used to it and then try to lose the last bit using alternative products. If I keep cheating, they will throw me out of the program anyways. I am going to go 100% until my next WI on Tuesday, so hopefully, I will show a good loss. I suggest talking to your coach on Tuesday. If you are happy at your weight than start phasing out. The key I hear is to phase out properly just don't go to phase 4 from phase 1, make it a slow waking up of your pancreaus, this will help you maintain until you feel the need to lose the last little bit you want to.

SJackson
08-19-2011, 07:18 AM
I suggest talking to your coach on Tuesday. If you are happy at your weight than start phasing out. The key I hear is to phase out properly just don't go to phase 4 from phase 1, make it a slow waking up of your pancreaus, this will help you maintain until you feel the need to lose the last little bit you want to.

Hello!!!

I went into maintenance in May of this year (I think). I was doing well staying at the weight I was at when I went into maintenance, but now I've gained 4-5 pounds. My clothes still fit, but I still want to lose this last 10 pounds to get me closer to my original goal weight. I just started using My Fitness Pal, as suggested in this thread and I have to say I really like it. I just need to find all of my paperwork that shows how many carbs, fat, protein, etc that I should be trying to maintain. So far, I've been unsuccessful but I will keep looking through the threads. Writing down everything that I eat is a real eye opener and makes me want to make better choices so that my end-of-the-day totals look good..LOL

Everyone have a good weekend!!!

Pxlkitty4
08-19-2011, 08:37 AM
aww, thanks lynn!!! that was really sweet! you know, i always feel like i'm being attacked when i write posts like that. people don't seem to like anything even slightly negative, even if it is the truth. from people who aren't even close to the end, it is always "oh, it's fantastic, i feel fantastic, don't be discouraged, everything will be perfect when you reach goal", which, as we all know is soooooooo untrue.

People may not want to hear it, but they need to. I'm proud of you for speaking up.

I had the same thought the other day: "I am never going to be happy..." After all I've gone through, was this how I expected to feel at this stage? I have only 5lbs to lose. I never thought that I would feel so critical and negative. Don't get me wrong, I also have periods of utter joy... But the proportion of time I spend feeling bad about myself is staggering when I think about it.

For example, I bought a Pilates for Weight Loss DVD the other day and the person who sold it to me looked me up and down as if to say "why are YOU buying this?" I should have been thrilled, but I spiralled down into a feeling of despair.

So glad I'm not alone.

I have a theory that I'm still experiencing the effects of the hormones that are released while we lose weight. I feel even more emotional now than I did at any point on the diet. This is probably because I'm losing fat that has been trapped in my body for years. Don't know if there's any scientific evidence to back that up, but it works it my warped little head.

coliep
08-19-2011, 08:59 AM
Becca - I am in a similar boat. I joined IP with 20 pounds to lose. I lost just under 12, even with lots of small cheats (i.e. peanut butter). I then decided that I couldn't afford to keep doing it totally IP and I wasn't loving the restrictiveness of the diet, so I started "my own diet". There are some other considerations (medicines, hormones, exercise), but in the last 2 weeks I am up 3 pounds rather than down.

I completely fell off the wagon yesterday after reading about shocking the body - so I maxed out my calories and had carbs (almost 200gm). I am so wishy-washy that I don't know what I am doing. I am contemplating staying off for a bit (since I already blew it yesterday anyway) and just counting calories then coming back on. But then, this morning I keep thinking "if I would only just stick to the diet, I could lose the last 8-10 pounds." Then a little negative voice in the back of my mind says that I am more likely going to lose only at about 1.5 pounds per week no matter what I do so there's no reason to kill myself to be OP on IP.

I would be curious how the "maintainers" experienced losses for the last 10 pounds or so. Was it ridiculously slow (i.e. a normal rate of weight loss compared to the initial fast IP weight loss)? Did you find it more challenging to adhere to the plan? Any thoughts/advice/suggestions to those of us who have fallen down the slippery slope of not being 100% OP?

BTW - I forget who said it, but I love the line above about spending all your money on IP so there's none left for therapy . . . I had to laugh =)

disgal
08-20-2011, 09:41 AM
Ok, so after reading all 30 pages of the sticky "Life after Phase 1"....HERE I AM!!!:carrot:
Thank you Woolberger for starting this Maintenance thread! I am on day 2 of Phase 3, and appreciate all the wonderful information as always!! :hug: I have to say, after reading the above mentioned sticky, I think I'll be ok in Maintenance.:) I was terrified before I started reading, but by the time I was finished I felt reassured that I, too, can do this!!! So a big "THANK YOU" to the folks who chimed in over a year ago with all their wonderful insight!! Not sure they're still around, but if so.... thanks!!


Coliep, I will try to help answer your question as best I can....:)

My goal weight is higher than yours. I can't even imagine getting any lower than where I am right now. When I was about 20 years old I weighed around 125. Well, it was pretty tough staying at that weight. I went up to around 155 and that seemed to be where my body was most comfortable. I maintained that for about 5-6 years until I met my Hubby.....then with all the wining and dining, etc, the weight came on!! I got married at 200lbs...and then proceeded to gain over the past 20 years (with having 2 kids too) and peaked a few years back at 252!! EEEEK!!

Anyway, my point is, I think when you're getting closer to your "goal", it's harder for the body to "let go" of those last few pounds. In my case, because my goal weight is higher, it wasn't so difficult to reach. Now if I decided to lose another 20 pounds (Lord help me), I think it would take a lot longer (meaning maybe only a 1 pound loss per week as opposed to 2 or 3??) to reach that lower number. I would have to say I lost on average 2 lbs/week from beginning to end. Altho I DID have me some cheats along the way! :devil: I am 47 ( had a complete hysterectomy at 40), and am frankly quite happy with where I'm at at this very moment (which is HUGE for me.....no pun intended)! ;) LOL!!

Look inside yourself, keep your eye on your prize (or goal). If that's the number you want to reach....GO FOR IT!!! YOU HAVE THE STRENGTH INSIDE TO ACHIEVE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING YOU WANT!!!! :hug: We are your cheerheaders here!!:carrot:

Lone Loser
08-20-2011, 10:04 AM
coliep and disgal -- I am also there with you. I'm 5' 4" and 54 years old -- so I think I'm pretty good where I am at. I've been here for about three weeks losing maybe 1 or 2 pounds a week. My goal will probably not be where it is set. Today I am going to Phase 2 -- come what may. I think your body tells you when enough is enough -- and my head is accepting it now.

Thanks for this thread! It does make maintenance not seem so impossible!

SJackson
08-20-2011, 10:37 AM
coliep and disgal -- I am also there with you. I'm 5' 4" and 54 years old -- so I think I'm pretty good where I am at. I've been here for about three weeks losing maybe 1 or 2 pounds a week. My goal will probably not be where it is set. Today I am going to Phase 2 -- come what may. I think your body tells you when enough is enough -- and my head is accepting it now.

Thanks for this thread! It does make maintenance not seem so impossible!

Hello. Maintenance is not impossible. I think its a little more time consuming now than before. On Phase 1, we had a complete diagram of what we could eat and we had the packets. Looking back I think it was easier because of the packets and the limited list to choose from. The trial and error to find something that we could eat that was OP ALL THE TIME. It did seem frustrating at first but I think that was because my body was so used to eating all of the carbs and sugars, it was rebeling. It's also a little harder when you have to cook for other people in the home that are not OP. I went into Phase 2, then marched on to 3 and sailed on to 4.

My body also told me when it was time to stop Phase 1. I reached a point where I wasn't losing any weight and maybe a 1/4 inch and there. I hadn't lost 90% of what I wanted to lose, but my body said enough was enough. Now, I just make better choices and when I mess up, I beat myself up for a day or so, get back on track and keep going forward.

Thanks for letting me stand on my soapbox!!! LOL :dizzy:

disgal
08-20-2011, 10:57 AM
coliep and disgal -- I am also there with you. I'm 5' 4" and 54 years old -- so I think I'm pretty good where I am at. I've been here for about three weeks losing maybe 1 or 2 pounds a week. My goal will probably not be where it is set. Today I am going to Phase 2 -- come what may. I think your body tells you when enough is enough -- and my head is accepting it now.

Thanks for this thread! It does make maintenance not seem so impossible!

Hello. Maintenance is not impossible. I think its a little more time consuming now than before. On Phase 1, we had a complete diagram of what we could eat and we had the packets. Looking back I think it was easier because of the packets and the limited list to choose from. The trial and error to find something that we could eat that was OP ALL THE TIME. It did seem frustrating at first but I think that was because my body was so used to eating all of the carbs and sugars, it was rebeling. It's also a little harder when you have to cook for other people in the home that are not OP. I went into Phase 2, then marched on to 3 and sailed on to 4.

My body also told me when it was time to stop Phase 1. I reached a point where I wasn't losing any weight and maybe a 1/4 inch and there. I hadn't lost 90% of what I wanted to lose, but my body said enough was enough. Now, I just make better choices and when I mess up, I beat myself up for a day or so, get back on track and keep going forward.

Thanks for letting me stand on my soapbox!!! LOL :dizzy:


Woot woot!!! :carrot: You rock Ladies!!!! :hug: Life is good!!! ;)

Susank2
08-20-2011, 07:46 PM
My son took this picture of me today. These jeans used to be so tight and now they are loose. Feels so good!!!

disgal
08-21-2011, 10:18 AM
My son took this picture of me today. These jeans used to be so tight and now they are loose. Feels so good!!!

WOW!!! Awesome!!!:carrot:

bigpassport
08-21-2011, 11:24 AM
My son took this picture of me today. These jeans used to be so tight and now they are loose. Feels so good!!!

You're a skinny person! Good job!

Susank2
08-21-2011, 07:46 PM
WOW!!! Awesome!!!:carrot:

Thanks! it was a lot of work but totally worth it!!!

woolberger
08-21-2011, 10:18 PM
Woolberger - hey #1 small town? as in the best? or the smallest town? just wondering as my sister lived in Kevin MT and there was maybe 50 people.. and now lives just outside of Sweetgrass MT and has less... but if it is the best small town you could be right.

So did you try the kohlrabi Chips? They would be great with a yogurt dip, or I make the cilantro pesto and dip the chips in that.
Thanks for this thread, I can't wait to say I am a maintainer.:hug:

2Ride,

Every year CCN/Money Magazine put together a list of the best small towns to live in in the US. Small is defined by population and Louisville is around 18,000. They look at lots of things like schools, jobs, unemployment, location, surrounding attractions, cost of housing, etc. We are actually in suburbia, 4 miles from Boulder and about 25 miles northwest of Denver. Louisville placed 5th in 2005, 3rd in 2007, 1st in 2009 and 1st again in 2011. It really is a nice place to live...close to the mountains.

I have made Kohlrabi everything, I just can't seem to get the chips crispy and strong enough to hold a dip. I'll survive.;) I know you will be a Maintainer very soon and look forward to keeping up the conversations!

My son took this picture of me today. These jeans used to be so tight and now they are loose. Feels so good!!!

SusanK2,

You look awesome. Great picture. You must feel wonderful.

Becca & LoneLoser,

I also got very hungry when I was within 15 lbs of my goal weight. I was 54 years old at the time. My face was looking gaunt and I felt pretty good about my size 6's. I told my coach I was ready to phase off. I moved to phase 2 the next week and continued to lose. After 2 weeks of P2, I moved to P3. I lost a little more there and dropped to size 4. I have maintained about 130 give or take about 2 pounds since March. While I am not perfectly following IP phase 4, I do track my food with MFP and am able to stop any creep by doing a few very low carb days. I take pilates classes 3 times per week. Maintenance is doable because I didn't pick a goal weight that was impossible for me to maintain. You really can go back and lose more if you are unhappy at your current weight. Good Luck to you.

Have a great week everyone!

Lynn

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-22-2011, 12:43 AM
2Ride,

Every year CCN/Money Magazine put together a list of the best small towns to live in in the US. Small is defined by population and Louisville is around 18,000. They look at lots of things like schools, jobs, unemployment, location, surrounding attractions, cost of housing, etc. We are actually in suburbia, 4 miles from Boulder and about 25 miles northwest of Denver. Louisville placed 5th in 2005, 3rd in 2007, 1st in 2009 and 1st again in 2011. It really is a nice place to live...close to the mountains.

I have made Kohlrabi everything, I just can't seem to get the chips crispy and strong enough to hold a dip. I'll survive.;) I know you will be a Maintainer very soon and look forward to keeping up the conversations!

Lynn

Your small town sounds beautiful... I really was just kidding but very impressive that cnn put it on the list.
Kohlrabi, have you tried the pizza stone? it is a very fine line between burnt and crispy. I find if I cut them thin but not too thin they get the crispyness and I dip them in cilantro sauce. I have a meat cutter that I use, as I don't have a mandolin yet. still looking for one of those. Have a great night.

brandam6
08-22-2011, 09:02 AM
Well my husband and I went to Vegas for a couple of days to celebrate our anniversary. My legs feel like we walked a 100 miles! What a great place to visit! We stayed on the strip and visited the casino's downtown one night. We also did a lot of shopping. It was nice to get away and just forget about everything and just spend time with my wonderful husband. I didn't take a computer with us, I wanted to unplug while we we were gone, but I missed this forum and am glad to be home.

We did not eat very well while we were there, luckily it was only 3 days. So I am gonna do phase 1 and 2 for this week and "detox". And hopefully catch up the happenings on the forum and on some sleep.

Have a great day everyone!

becca1978
08-22-2011, 12:54 PM
Thanks for all of your advice. Tomorrow, I will be off of the official program. I cheated badly all weekend. But I am back on track today. I did order a bunch of Chocolate RTD shakes this morning from New Lifestyles. I think they are very similar (if not the same) as IP's.

I was 150 lbs this morning, but after seeing pictures of myself from this weekend, I do think I want to try to get down to 135. So I will have some work left to do. Hopefully, I will be back in here soon!

Susie_Bee
08-22-2011, 02:29 PM
Wow! Hello everyone!

I logged back in here expecting to "lurk" a little and I found this wonderful thread!

I did IP from March 14th until June 11th. I stopped just short of my goal because I was having nausea/dizzy spells that went away when I had carbs (toast or soda crackers).

I maintained just fine until about 2 weeks ago... I was on vacation and made some bad choices... It is so easy to fall back into my old ways. Give me an inch and I take a mile!

My weight is now at 149.4 lbs. My lowest point was 143 lbs.

I am at the point where I am debating between just being careful and trying to get it back down or going back to phase I and trying for a new goal of 135 lbs, which is what I really wanted all along.

My birthday is in mid-September, so I am thinking that if I do go back to Phase I, I should wait until after that day! I can handle Thanksgiving better than my birthday... it's rude to refuse when someone buys you a birthday cake and I don't want to be going in an out of ketosis! If I do it, I want to do it 100% - health permitting, of course!

I am still getting tons of compliments about my weight loss and I am feeling good in size 8-10 (depending on the clothes). My clothes still fit from two weeks ago, so that is a good sign... I think...

I am so happy to have found this thread and to have an opportunity to come clean and get inspired by the rest of you as I was all along this journey!

brandam6
08-22-2011, 11:13 PM
Welcome back Susie!

bigpassport
08-23-2011, 12:33 AM
Susie--How did you eat when you were maintaining? Did you follow Phase 4? Did that work for you scale-wise and lifestyle-wise? I'd like to think with a combo Phase 3/Phase 4 lifestyle, I can lose another 5 lbs then be into the routine of maintenance. If your goal is just 6 lbs less than you are now, do you think you can do it with Phase 3/4? If you truly want to lose 14 lbs, I can see wanting to go back to Phase 1.

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-23-2011, 10:38 AM
Hello. Maintenance is not impossible. I think its a little more time consuming now than before. On Phase 1, we had a complete diagram of what we could eat and we had the packets. Looking back I think it was easier because of the packets and the limited list to choose from. The trial and error to find something that we could eat that was OP ALL THE TIME. It did seem frustrating at first but I think that was because my body was so used to eating all of the carbs and sugars, it was rebeling. It's also a little harder when you have to cook for other people in the home that are not OP. I went into Phase 2, then marched on to 3 and sailed on to 4.

My body also told me when it was time to stop Phase 1. I reached a point where I wasn't losing any weight and maybe a 1/4 inch and there. I hadn't lost 90% of what I wanted to lose, but my body said enough was enough. Now, I just make better choices and when I mess up, I beat myself up for a day or so, get back on track and keep going forward.

Thanks for letting me stand on my soapbox!!! LOL :dizzy:Thank you for this, my coach thinks I am at this point, I am happy to hear you are doing great at maintaining. As we all get close to there I think we all think we will revert back to our old selfs and I for one do not want that to happen, so it is very nice for this thread and people like you letting us know all is well in maintenance.


Welcome back Susie.

ash825
08-23-2011, 02:21 PM
I started maintenance today!!! Truthfully, I'm still reading up on it so I've had a phase 3 breakfast esentially (very low fat though) and a phase 2 lunch. Tonight I'm going to finish my phase 4 research and move forward. WOO HOO!! Also I just realized my first cheat day is my son's birthday party! Do you know how many times I've passed on birthday cake these last 7 months? It's my time. :) :) :)

Glad we have a thread to keep up with each other...

disgal
08-23-2011, 04:52 PM
I started maintenance today!!! Truthfully, I'm still reading up on it so I've had a phase 3 breakfast esentially (very low fat though) and a phase 2 lunch. Tonight I'm going to finish my phase 4 research and move forward. WOO HOO!! Also I just realized my first cheat day is my son's birthday party! Do you know how many times I've passed on birthday cake these last 7 months? It's my time. :) :) :)

Glad we have a thread to keep up with each other...

Yay yay yay!!:carrot: Perfect timing on the Birthday!! ;) I'm about a week behind you, and I, too, will be doing Phase 4 research so I'm ready when that wonderful day comes!!:carrot: Congrats!!!:hug:

brummie
08-23-2011, 07:00 PM
Welcome Back Susie!!

Ash825 and Disgal - good luck for maintenance!!
2 more days of phase 3 and I will be maintenance! The last couple of days have been hectic, and I've had a hard time getting ALL my breakfast down (I usually have half a toast and a few bites left on my plate...but it takes forever to force the rest of it down. I completely know what my problem is and I need to snap out of it!...I have a hard time preparing food first thing in the morning...I NEED TO EXPERIMENT until I find a simple breakfast that works for me.

SusanK2 - Looking good, girl!!!

Susank2
08-23-2011, 07:30 PM
SusanK2 - Looking good, girl!!![/QUOTE]

Thanks so much!

I had a hard time choking down the big breakfast at first too. Now it's my favorite meal of the day and doesn't seem that big at all. I have:

2 pieces of marble rye toast w/ 2 tbsp. of lite cream cheese
1 whole egg + 2 egg whites
coffee with 8oz. skim milk
fruit (usually blueberries or a peach)

I love this breakfast so much that I haven't really tried anything else. I guess eventually I'll get sick of it and maybe move to oatmeal or something, but for now this is heaven for me.

disgal
08-23-2011, 08:32 PM
I am so thankful for this thread!!! I soooo look forward to reading your posts every day!! How wonderful to have everyone here that can chime in and help with questions....now that we're nearing the end together (or should I say the beginning)!!:hug:

I never really was a breakfast gal...until now I guess!! heehee!! I've got time to experiment for another week, until the kids go back to school that is....and I am enjoying every bite!! :carrot:

Have a great nite all!!!!

brandam6
08-23-2011, 09:19 PM
I started maintenance today!!! Truthfully, I'm still reading up on it so I've had a phase 3 breakfast esentially (very low fat though) and a phase 2 lunch. Tonight I'm going to finish my phase 4 research and move forward. WOO HOO!! Also I just realized my first cheat day is my son's birthday party! Do you know how many times I've passed on birthday cake these last 7 months? It's my time. :) :) :)

Glad we have a thread to keep up with each other...

Congrats Ash!

Welcome Back Susie!!

Ash825 and Disgal - good luck for maintenance!!
2 more days of phase 3 and I will be maintenance! The last couple of days have been hectic, and I've had a hard time getting ALL my breakfast down (I usually have half a toast and a few bites left on my plate...but it takes forever to force the rest of it down. I completely know what my problem is and I need to snap out of it!...I have a hard time preparing food first thing in the morning...I NEED TO EXPERIMENT until I find a simple breakfast that works for me.


And congrats to you brummie!



I had a hard time choking down the big breakfast at first too. Now it's my favorite meal of the day and doesn't seem that big at all. I have:

2 pieces of marble rye toast w/ 2 tbsp. of lite cream cheese
1 whole egg + 2 egg whites
coffee with 8oz. skim milk
fruit (usually blueberries or a peach)

I love this breakfast so much that I haven't really tried anything else. I guess eventually I'll get sick of it and maybe move to oatmeal or something, but for now this is heaven for me.

I am so thankful for this thread!!! I soooo look forward to reading your posts every day!! How wonderful to have everyone here that can chime in and help with questions....now that we're nearing the end together (or should I say the beginning)!!:hug:

I never really was a breakfast gal...until now I guess!! heehee!! I've got time to experiment for another week, until the kids go back to school that is....and I am enjoying every bite!! :carrot:

Have a great nite all!!!!

I am so glad that there are so many coming into maintenance now, and that some of the others maintainers are still posting. I think it will help to keep each other accountable. Plus it will help that we can compare notes and see what works for others.

As far as breakfast goes, I still hate eating breakfast. I never minded having a shake or a bar, and that is generally what I have for breakfast in maintenance. Sometimes I have a bigger breakfast, generally on the weekends. I have only really done the "official" maintenance program for a week because of our Vegas trip. Then I did 3 cheat days in a row. Probably wasn't the best idea, but this was special, so I think it was alright. And they weren't full blown "eat whatever I wanted whenever I wanted" but we ate 2 meals a day, and they weren't very healthy. I gained 4 lbs while away. I don't think that was all from the Vegas splurge, as I just started TOM today. Yesterday and today I did Phase 2 because I hadn't gone to grocery store and phase 2 lunches are easier. I was down almost a lb as of this morning. I went to grocery store this evening so tomorrow and rest of the week I am planning to phase 1 and 2 until I am back down to 150, which includes the 2 extra lbs that I had gained in Phase 3. So I need to lose a total of 5 lbs as of this morning. I have no idea how long this will take me. Maybe 2 weeks. It really wasn't too hard getting back into it, It was actually kind of nice to get back into the familiar groove again.

bigpassport
08-23-2011, 11:52 PM
Hey, me too! DH and I will be completing Phase 3 on Saturday and onto Phase 4 on Sunday. I'm more looking forward to my cheat days than carbs for dinner. I could easily eat Phase 3-style on a daily basis, but I'm very much looking forward to a few favorite foods I've missed that of course include carbs and fat.

Ash mentioned her first cheat day is a specific day. Are we supposed to be into Phase 4 a week before having a cheat day?...or hypothetically could day 1 of Phase 4 be a cheat day?

capricious
08-24-2011, 12:28 AM
Well...
Today is my fifth day of maintenance and I have no idea what I'm doing... it is harder when things are not as set out for you and carbs freak me out- and rightfully so I figure. I love the big breakfast and have essentially stuck to a Phase 3 menu. Still haven't had a carb at night... Baby steps... reintroducing things VERY slowly seems like a wise idea because I don't know what my triggers if any are...
I found a recipe for almond butter cookies in oxygen magazine:
1/2 cup of rolled oats
1 scoop of whey protein
1T almond butter
1t baking powder
1 egg white
1/2 C cup carob chips (optional) (I used chopped up 71 % cocoa dark chocolate)
mix them together in a bowl with your hands separate into 12 golf ball sized cookies bake for 10 min in a 350 oven.
30 cals a piece
My question- What do these count as???

woolberger
08-24-2011, 10:51 AM
So excited to see so many of us getting to maintenance!! We are success stories!!

Ash
How did your first day go?

Brandy
Did you win anything in Vegas? I'm going for a conference in November. I haven't been to Vegas since the 1980's. Sounds like you are doing exactly the right thing to get back on track.

Brummie
One more day to maintenance! Congratulations!!

bigpassport
I haven't seen it written that you have to wait a week for your first cheat day. I've seen people have wine on their first P4 day. I'd just be careful not to stray too far as your body may not like the sudden change.

Cap

I'm not sure how to count the cookies but they sound great!

Disgal

You have done such an amazing job. I'm so glad you will be here with us.

Have a great day!

Lone Loser
08-24-2011, 06:40 PM
bigpassport -- DH had his first cheat day the day after he went off Phase 3. Our coach says a lot of people do that.

When I finally get to Phase 4, we are switching to Saturday so that we can cheat together -- oh . . . that's not how it sounds! You know what I mean!

disgal
08-24-2011, 08:55 PM
Disgal

You have done such an amazing job. I'm so glad you will be here with us.

Have a great day! Thanks Woolberger! :hug:
bigpassport -- DH had his first cheat day the day after he went off Phase 3. Our coach says a lot of people do that.

When I finally get to Phase 4, we are switching to Saturday so that we can cheat together -- oh . . . that's not how it sounds! You know what I mean!

Heehee! You just made me laugh!! Hubby and I will be "cheating" on Saturdays too!! :DLOL!! Can't wait!!:carrot:Well...
Today is my fifth day of maintenance and I have no idea what I'm doing... it is harder when things are not as set out for you and carbs freak me out- and rightfully so I figure. I love the big breakfast and have essentially stuck to a Phase 3 menu. Still haven't had a carb at night... Baby steps... reintroducing things VERY slowly seems like a wise idea because I don't know what my triggers if any are...I found a recipe for almond butter cookies in oxygen magazine:
1/2 cup of rolled oats
1 scoop of whey protein
1T almond butter
1t baking powder
1 egg white
1/2 C cup carob chips (optional) (I used chopped up 71 % cocoa dark chocolate)
mix them together in a bowl with your hands separate into 12 golf ball sized cookies bake for 10 min in a 350 oven.
30 cals a piece
My question- What do these count as???

I think that is a great way to approach maintenance!! I guess we all will have to take it one day at a time and listen to our bodies. You are doing a great job!! :carrot:
I don't know how to count the cookies....but they do sound yummy!!

sunnymae
08-25-2011, 08:52 AM
haven't chimed in in a while, but I'm happy to see this thread. I started falling away from IP principles and need to stay in this group and re-motivate myself before things go south. I have been maintaining since february 2011 within 5 lbs of where I ended up, but I do feel/see the difference on my body in fullness where I had lost and now filled out again. I'd rather nip it in the bud, which I can do with this program, than wait till 10 or 15 pounds creep back up. that would devastate me and it's a hard road back. So...I'll keep comin' back and recommit myself to checking in more often, so I can share my progress. This group got me thru all my phases and I could NEVER have stuck with it without you girls and guys.
Let's keep at it together. and thanks for that great almond butter recipe. It sounds like that'll save me from over indulging on something way more dangerous!
BTW...I call my Cheat Day my Free day, because cheating is when you do something you're not supposed to :0)

woolberger
08-25-2011, 09:59 AM
Sunny,

So glad to hear from you. I know exactly what you are saying. I am staying within 2-3 lbs of my goal weight but I look in the mirror and feel I like I look "fuller" too. WTH? I probably should try following P4 as written again to see if it makes a difference. I track using MFP but am not so careful about combining fat & carbs and don't really have a planned free day...they just happen:).
Looking forward to keeping in touch.

Lynn

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-25-2011, 10:07 AM
Sunny,

So glad to hear from you. I know exactly what you are saying. I am staying within 2-3 lbs of my goal weight but I look in the mirror and feel I like I look "fuller" too. WTH? I probably should try following P4 as written again to see if it makes a difference. I track using MFP but am not so careful about combining fat & carbs and don't really have a planned free day...they just happen:).
Looking forward to keeping in touch.

LynnGood morning, I am curious when you say you look fuller, is that everywhere? does your clothing feel tighter? I just want to learn so I know when the pounds try to creep back up because I am pretty sure when I get to maintenance I may slip.

woolberger
08-25-2011, 02:26 PM
Good morning, I am curious when you say you look fuller, is that everywhere? does your clothing feel tighter? I just want to learn so I know when the pounds try to creep back up because I am pretty sure when I get to maintenance I may slip.

I lost my weight from the top down. I have always had more of the pear shape and tend to carry weight in my limbs. I also have a round face. I phased off when I felt my face was looking gaunt. I have been maintaining 5 months now and I think the weight shifts over time and your body type doesn't really change. My face has filled out a little but that is actually a good thing (maybe I'm just getting used to it). My upper arms seem fuller to me but I have been taking Pilates classes 3-4 times per week (my escape) and my batwings are disappearing. I am wearing my size 4 jeans so I guess it's all good. I think our body image takes a long time to catch up with reality!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-25-2011, 03:44 PM
I lost my weight from the top down. I have always had more of the pear shape and tend to carry weight in my limbs. I also have a round face. I phased off when I felt my face was looking gaunt. I have been maintaining 5 months now and I think the weight shifts over time and your body type doesn't really change. My face has filled out a little but that is actually a good thing (maybe I'm just getting used to it). My upper arms seem fuller to me but I have been taking Pilates classes 3-4 times per week (my escape) and my batwings are disappearing. I am wearing my size 4 jeans so I guess it's all good. I think our body image takes a long time to catch up with reality! I agree and that is great that your batwings are disappearing... Your pic you look so healthy and happy.

capricious
08-25-2011, 11:01 PM
I lost my weight from the top down. I have always had more of the pear shape and tend to carry weight in my limbs. I also have a round face. I phased off when I felt my face was looking gaunt. I have been maintaining 5 months now and I think the weight shifts over time and your body type doesn't really change. My face has filled out a little but that is actually a good thing (maybe I'm just getting used to it). My upper arms seem fuller to me but I have been taking Pilates classes 3-4 times per week (my escape) and my batwings are disappearing. I am wearing my size 4 jeans so I guess it's all good. I think our body image takes a long time to catch up with reality! Woolberger have you started separating your carbs & fats now? I'm wondering about this as so many things have fruit, veggies & dressing (salad wise at least)- if I should just leave the fruit behind or if it's okay to have it all... Were you super conscientious about it in the beginning and the just eased up over time? Or did you always dabble? Five months seems like a pretty good amount of time to have maintained for- the body has had a chance to even out. Are you planning a tune-up? My coach had mentioned that it is recommended to go back to Phase 1 once a year roughly to 'tune- up' as there is a natural weight gain to be expected throughout the year of roughly 5- 8 Pounds. Sorry for the 20 questions and picking your brain...:D

Good morning, I am curious when you say you look fuller, is that everywhere? does your clothing feel tighter? I just want to learn so I know when the pounds try to creep back up because I am pretty sure when I get to maintenance I may slip. 2Ride we're supposed to slip remember ;) Dr. Tran said so :D Although it is VERY hard to give in to having something you would not otherwise let yourself have. Throughout the first two phases I fantasized about everything I would eat and drink when I hit my first maintenance cheat day- and it never materialized. You work way too hard to get to your goal and it requires such an intense amount of focus to get there that easing up is very hard to do which is probably for the best because if I were to go back to eating the way I did before then I will go back to looking the way I did before... No thanks... And you, I absolutely believe can succeed in maintenance. You've lost a lot of weight and stayed focused throughout your journey. You check the boards frequently and ergo have a lot of support. I thank Woolberger for having started this thread because maintenance is just as important as the diet itself and the need for support remains just as recovering alcoholics who have not had a drink in years still attend an AA meeting so do us carb addicts need to support each other in not overdoing the carbs. There is a reason support groups exist and it is because they work. I thank all of you for being mine! (Please forgive my ranting:o)

haven't chimed in in a while, but I'm happy to see this thread. I started falling away from IP principles and need to stay in this group and re-motivate myself before things go south. I have been maintaining since february 2011 within 5 lbs of where I ended up, but I do feel/see the difference on my body in fullness where I had lost and now filled out again. I'd rather nip it in the bud, which I can do with this program, than wait till 10 or 15 pounds creep back up. that would devastate me and it's a hard road back. So...I'll keep comin' back and recommit myself to checking in more often, so I can share my progress. This group got me thru all my phases and I could NEVER have stuck with it without you girls and guys.
Let's keep at it together. and thanks for that great almond butter recipe. It sounds like that'll save me from over indulging on something way more dangerous!
BTW...I call my Cheat Day my Free day, because cheating is when you do something you're not supposed to :0)

capricious
08-25-2011, 11:07 PM
Sorry SunnyMae I got so caught up in my rant- I forgot to say :welcome3: BACK! Looking forward to maintaining with you. Congrats on having maintained since February- that's awesome! If I'm only five pounds from where I am now in 8 months I will be one very happy lady :D:yes:

bigpassport
08-26-2011, 10:01 AM
For those of you who use My Fitness Pal for maintenance, I see that we can change the percentages for carbs, protein, etc in our goals. The automatic setting has carbs at 55%, protein at 30%, and fat at 15%. Does anyone have an idea of what percentage protein, carbs, fat, etc we should strive for on Phase 4?

disgal
08-26-2011, 10:31 AM
haven't chimed in in a while, but I'm happy to see this thread. I started falling away from IP principles and need to stay in this group and re-motivate myself before things go south. I have been maintaining since february 2011 within 5 lbs of where I ended up, but I do feel/see the difference on my body in fullness where I had lost and now filled out again. I'd rather nip it in the bud, which I can do with this program, than wait till 10 or 15 pounds creep back up. that would devastate me and it's a hard road back. So...I'll keep comin' back and recommit myself to checking in more often, so I can share my progress. This group got me thru all my phases and I could NEVER have stuck with it without you girls and guys.
Let's keep at it together. and thanks for that great almond butter recipe. It sounds like that'll save me from over indulging on something way more dangerous!
BTW...I call my Cheat Day my Free day, because cheating is when you do something you're not supposed to :0)

Welcome back!!! So glad to hear your maintenance is going well!!:carrot:Like Capricious said, I would be THRILLED to stay within 5 pounds of my goal 6 months later! Way to go!!!:carrot:Sunny,

So glad to hear from you. I know exactly what you are saying. I am staying within 2-3 lbs of my goal weight but I look in the mirror and feel I like I look "fuller" too. WTH? I probably should try following P4 as written again to see if it makes a difference. I track using MFP but am not so careful about combining fat & carbs and don't really have a planned free day...they just happen:).
Looking forward to keeping in touch.

Lynn

Another success story!!! You are amazing!! Thank you for all your insight!! :hug:Woolberger have you started separating your carbs & fats now? I'm wondering about this as so many things have fruit, veggies & dressing (salad wise at least)- if I should just leave the fruit behind or if it's okay to have it all... Were you super conscientious about it in the beginning and the just eased up over time? Or did you always dabble? Five months seems like a pretty good amount of time to have maintained for- the body has had a chance to even out. Are you planning a tune-up? My coach had mentioned that it is recommended to go back to Phase 1 once a year roughly to 'tune- up' as there is a natural weight gain to be expected throughout the year of roughly 5- 8 Pounds. Sorry for the 20 questions and picking your brain...:D

2Ride we're supposed to slip remember ;) Dr. Tran said so :D Although it is VERY hard to give in to having something you would not otherwise let yourself have. Throughout the first two phases I fantasized about everything I would eat and drink when I hit my first maintenance cheat day- and it never materialized. You work way too hard to get to your goal and it requires such an intense amount of focus to get there that easing up is very hard to do which is probably for the best because if I were to go back to eating the way I did before then I will go back to looking the way I did before... No thanks... And you, I absolutely believe can succeed in maintenance. You've lost a lot of weight and stayed focused throughout your journey. You check the boards frequently and ergo have a lot of support. I thank Woolberger for having started this thread because maintenance is just as important as the diet itself and the need for support remains just as recovering alcoholics who have not had a drink in years still attend an AA meeting so do us carb addicts need to support each other in not overdoing the carbs. There is a reason support groups exist and it is because they work. I thank all of you for being mine! (Please forgive my ranting:o)

Looking forward to hearing some responses!:D I will be in Maintenance in another week and I'm still trying to figure this "fats at lunch, carbs at dinner" thing!! LOL!!
Just an update.....finished week one, and I'm at the exact same weight I was one week ago!! It's wierd to NOT see the scale go down anymore...I have to keep reminding myself that at least it's not going up!! Haha!!
Have a great day everyone!!:)

sunnymae
08-27-2011, 12:06 AM
Thanks everyone for chiming in. For some of you with questions, I notice when I watch the carbs I see/feel a pretty immediate difference in that "bloat" weight. It just still boils down to that darn sugar for me. In the form of alcohol, bread or dessert type stuff. I woulc like to do a round of ph 1 I'd say the end of october which will be a year since I started IP. Anyone know what the Dr's recommended time frame is a a part of maintenance? Maybe some of us in maintenance can do it together, or at least report in while we are doing it. Let me know if you want to join me. I think it's important for me to know that I have the discipline to clean out, go back into those fat reserves and do a little housekeeping.
Thanks everyone. Being a sugar/carb addict, I'd rather err on the side of being overly concerned about weight gain, than gaining 35 pounds back and landing up where I first started. I think the choice for lots of us on this list is either being obsessed about not gaining back, or obsessed about losing it again. I'd rather be **** bent on not gaining it back. You guys are the best!

Welcome back!!! So glad to hear your maintenance is going well!!:carrot:Like Capricious said, I would be THRILLED to stay within 5 pounds of my goal 6 months later! Way to go!!!:carrot:

Another success story!!! You are amazing!! Thank you for all your insight!! :hug:

Looking forward to hearing some responses!:D I will be in Maintenance in another week and I'm still trying to figure this "fats at lunch, carbs at dinner" thing!! LOL!!
Just an update.....finished week one, and I'm at the exact same weight I was one week ago!! It's wierd to NOT see the scale go down anymore...I have to keep reminding myself that at least it's not going up!! Haha!!
Have a great day everyone!!:)

disgal
08-28-2011, 08:38 AM
Thanks everyone for chiming in. For some of you with questions, I notice when I watch the carbs I see/feel a pretty immediate difference in that "bloat" weight. It just still boils down to that darn sugar for me. In the form of alcohol, bread or dessert type stuff. I woulc like to do a round of ph 1 I'd say the end of october which will be a year since I started IP. Anyone know what the Dr's recommended time frame is a a part of maintenance? Maybe some of us in maintenance can do it together, or at least report in while we are doing it. Let me know if you want to join me. I think it's important for me to know that I have the discipline to clean out, go back into those fat reserves and do a little housekeeping.
Thanks everyone. Being a sugar/carb addict, I'd rather err on the side of being overly concerned about weight gain, than gaining 35 pounds back and landing up where I first started. I think the choice for lots of us on this list is either being obsessed about not gaining back, or obsessed about losing it again. I'd rather be **** bent on not gaining it back. You guys are the best!

Thanks for the insight Sunnymae!! I may be joining you in October for that week or two of Phase 1!! No need for me to wait til my 1 year Anniv in Feb!!! LOL!!! Hubby and I start maintenance this Friday. Altho last evening we went out and had some additional "carbs"...both in the form of food and alcohol....so today we are both doing Phase 1, then back to Phase 3 tomorrow. So far we have been happy with Phase 3 and our weight....it will be interesting to see what happens in Maintenance! Just went out and bought a new scale that measures body fat %, BMI, body water, and bone mass. Thought it would be fun to keep track since we will likely stop going to our clinic (maybe once a month to get more Southwest Cheese Curls that's about it)!!
I can't say it enough.....IP is an incredible gift!!! AMAZING!!

woolberger
08-28-2011, 09:37 AM
Woolberger have you started separating your carbs & fats now? I'm wondering about this as so many things have fruit, veggies & dressing (salad wise at least)- if I should just leave the fruit behind or if it's okay to have it all... Were you super conscientious about it in the beginning and the just eased up over time? Or did you always dabble? Five months seems like a pretty good amount of time to have maintained for- the body has had a chance to even out. Are you planning a tune-up? My coach had mentioned that it is recommended to go back to Phase 1 once a year roughly to 'tune- up' as there is a natural weight gain to be expected throughout the year of roughly 5- 8 Pounds. Sorry for the 20 questions and picking your brain...:D

I am trying to separate fats & carbs. Went to company picnic last night. Had hamburger with tomato & onion on lettuce bun with mustard. Actually was very filling. Friday night had Peru trip reunion. I made a quinoa pilaf with tomatoes, green chile, black beans, sauteed colored bell peppers, green onion and topped with fat free cheddar cheese. I love quinoa! I have never been a big fruit person. I love an apple in the morning with greek yogurt but otherwise don't eat it as a snack. I don't think I ever did phase 4 the way I was supposed to. I did phase off on phase 2 & 3 exactly as written. I use MFP to track and try to keep my daily carbs under 100 grams.

Thanks everyone for chiming in. For some of you with questions, I notice when I watch the carbs I see/feel a pretty immediate difference in that "bloat" weight. It just still boils down to that darn sugar for me. In the form of alcohol, bread or dessert type stuff. I woulc like to do a round of ph 1 I'd say the end of october which will be a year since I started IP. Anyone know what the Dr's recommended time frame is a a part of maintenance? Maybe some of us in maintenance can do it together, or at least report in while we are doing it. Let me know if you want to join me. I think it's important for me to know that I have the discipline to clean out, go back into those fat reserves and do a little housekeeping.
Thanks everyone. Being a sugar/carb addict, I'd rather err on the side of being overly concerned about weight gain, than gaining 35 pounds back and landing up where I first started. I think the choice for lots of us on this list is either being obsessed about not gaining back, or obsessed about losing it again. I'd rather be **** bent on not gaining it back. You guys are the best!

I would love to join you for a tune-up! I also started in October 2010. I will be traveling starting October 20th through November 20th so it would have to be before or after that for me but I'm in!

I was wondering if anyone would be up for an informal phase 4 challenge? So many people are getting to maintenance (yay!) We could all help each other by following the phase 4 recommendations and posting our meal ideas for the dinner (good carb) meal. Rocky Monarch always made it sound so easy but I just couldn't seem to get the hang of it.

Have a wonderful Sunday. My thoughts are with the east coasters.

bigpassport
08-29-2011, 12:19 AM
I was wondering if anyone would be up for an informal phase 4 challenge? So many people are getting to maintenance (yay!) We could all help each other by following the phase 4 recommendations and posting our meal ideas for the dinner (good carb) meal.

I'm up for sharing any phase 4 dinner meals I come up with. Tonight, our first Phase 4 night, we had only meat and veggies:( Other than spaghetti with a fat free marinara, I am having trouble thinking of no-fat carb dishes, so I'm looking forward to sharing ideas.

ETA: Just found some fat free muffin recipes. Maybe meat and veggie for dinner followed by a fat free muffin for dessert?

amaliayosa
08-29-2011, 05:42 AM
Im about here. 7 pounds to go. Thinking about starting phase 2. Looking forward to all the tips and support.

woolberger
08-29-2011, 10:26 AM
I'm up for sharing any phase 4 dinner meals I come up with. Tonight, our first Phase 4 night, we had only meat and veggies:( Other than spaghetti with a fat free marinara, I am having trouble thinking of no-fat carb dishes, so I'm looking forward to sharing ideas.

ETA: Just found some fat free muffin recipes. Maybe meat and veggie for dinner followed by a fat free muffin for dessert?

As long as the muffin is whole grain without a lot of sugars, I think that works. I am going to try making my evening meal without any higher fat meats because isn't a good steak with brown rice still combining fats & carbs? That is where I get confused. I'm thinking:

97% FF hotdog in a whole wheat bun,
vegetarian chili with soy crumbles,
quinoa pilaf with vegies and soy crumbles,
whole grain/high fiber pasta with FF sauce with reduced fat parm cheese,
grilled cheese sandwich made with whole grain/high fiber bread and FF cheddar cheese (spray bread with Pam instead of butter).

What are some other ideas?

cajunladybug22
08-29-2011, 02:03 PM
We've done grilled chicken with brown rice, sauteed turkey breast cutlets with quinoa, Turkey tacos with whole wheat tortillas and FF cheese/sour cream

brandam6
08-30-2011, 07:14 AM
Brandy
Did you win anything in Vegas? I'm going for a conference in November. I haven't been to Vegas since the 1980's. Sounds like you are doing exactly the right thing to get back on track.




Over all I lost my butt at the slots! I only really played the penny slots, so we're not talking high stakes. But there was a casino downtown where I started with $20 and walked out with $65!

I am back down to 152 from 156 when we got back. Still working to get down to 150, mostly doing phase 2. I have also been exercising 4-5 days a week. Nothing vigorous yet, just walking videos or pilates videos in the morning. I want to add in elliptical training, and some light weight lifting for toning (Gotta do something about the bat wings). I am gonna start this later this week, or next week.


I was wondering if anyone would be up for an informal phase 4 challenge? So many people are getting to maintenance (yay!) We could all help each other by following the phase 4 recommendations and posting our meal ideas for the dinner (good carb) meal. Rocky Monarch always made it sound so easy but I just couldn't seem to get the hang of it.



Sounds like a good idea! I am going back to Phase 4 protocol next week, I will post some of my meal ideas when I come up with them. I went through some of my old standby recipes over the weekend, and I think I can modify some of them to fit into maintenance, as alot of them were low fat already.

bigpassport
08-30-2011, 11:32 PM
Have you all seen the new Phase 4 sheet? Brummie posted it in the Experienced thread.

Here it is (let me apologize upfront for the fact that I tipped my water bottle on it just as I was putting it through the scanner!!)
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I confirmed with my coach that this IS the correct new Phase 4 sheet. Notice it says lunch is "poor" in carbs and dinner is "poor" in fats, which makes more sense to me than "no" carbs/fas set forth in the prior Phase 4 sheet. But I wish they gave us some guidelines as to how many grams of carbs to stay under at lunch and how many grams of fat to stay under at dinner. Any ideas?

fowegrel
08-31-2011, 12:56 AM
Hi All- I am a lurker but don't post much. Have been on phase 4 for about 2 months. I am doing fine weight -wise but am becoming bored with r=eating the same things everyday....am looking forward to some more ideas for "fat" lunches and carb , no-fat dinner. here is what I have been eating:
Breakfast: 2 slices light wheat toast with peanut butter, 2 pieces lean turkey bacon, 1/2 c greek yogurt (fat free)with 1c strawberries and 1c light soy milk

Lunch: chicken salad with veggies and full-fat dressing for fat......sometimes a few prok rinds if i want a crunch or some sunflower seeds on my salad (getting VERY boring)

Dinner: Protein and veggies, salad with WF dressing and either a roll or a small baked potatoe with I can't believe its not butter sparay, and some strawberries or a peach after dinner

Snack: IP food or some almonds

HELP!

brandam6
08-31-2011, 08:42 AM
Here is a dinner idea. I got this recipe several years ago from spark people, when I was doing ww. I used to make it all the time. Here's the recipe with some modifications.

Crock Pot Salsa Chicken
put 3-4 chicken breasts in the bottom of crock pot. Cover with a package of taco seasoning (I am going to use my own, because there is too much salt and sugar in some of the prepackaged kinds). Cover with a big jar of salsa. (The recipe calls for salsa and a can of cream of chicken soup. you could use the low fat kind?) Cook on high for 6 hours or so. The chicken will shred up when it's done. You could mix in some ff sour cream, and you could serve it over some brown rice, or with whole wheat tortillas.

I haven't made it yet without the soup in it, I am going to try it tomorrow. I am going to make brown rice to go with it. And I am going to add FF sour cream to it when it's done cooking. It would probably need some salt added to it.

Does that sound like it fits for Phase 4?

woolberger
09-01-2011, 09:20 AM
Have you all seen the new Phase 4 sheet? Brummie posted it in the Experienced thread.



I confirmed with my coach that this IS the correct new Phase 4 sheet. Notice it says lunch is "poor" in carbs and dinner is "poor" in fats, which makes more sense to me than "no" carbs/fas set forth in the prior Phase 4 sheet. But I wish they gave us some guidelines as to how many grams of carbs to stay under at lunch and how many grams of fat to stay under at dinner. Any ideas?

I wish I knew the answer to that too. I'm a counter. A chicken breast has around 5 grams of fat, the steak I had last night had 24 fat grams, even quinoa has 4 grams of fat per cup. It all adds up. How much is too much? We should all ask our coaches and see what they say.

Hi All- I am a lurker but don't post much. Have been on phase 4 for about 2 months. I am doing fine weight -wise but am becoming bored with r=eating the same things everyday....am looking forward to some more ideas for "fat" lunches and carb , no-fat dinner. here is what I have been eating:
Breakfast: 2 slices light wheat toast with peanut butter, 2 pieces lean turkey bacon, 1/2 c greek yogurt (fat free)with 1c strawberries and 1c light soy milk

Lunch: chicken salad with veggies and full-fat dressing for fat......sometimes a few prok rinds if i want a crunch or some sunflower seeds on my salad (getting VERY boring)

Dinner: Protein and veggies, salad with WF dressing and either a roll or a small baked potatoe with I can't believe its not butter sparay, and some strawberries or a peach after dinner

Snack: IP food or some almonds

HELP!

I think you've got it! I see there is an IP recipe book at my clinic. Do they charge for those or are they free? Maybe there are more ideas in there. We should continue to post ideas here as I also find I am eating the same things over & over (chicken on salad at lunch is the perfect example). I did mix it up a little last week. I picked up 8 pieces of seared tuna sashimi, cut them and had in a salad of with WF sesame ginger dressing.

Here is a dinner idea. I got this recipe several years ago from spark people, when I was doing ww. I used to make it all the time. Here's the recipe with some modifications.

Crock Pot Salsa Chicken
put 3-4 chicken breasts in the bottom of crock pot. Cover with a package of taco seasoning (I am going to use my own, because there is too much salt and sugar in some of the prepackaged kinds). Cover with a big jar of salsa. (The recipe calls for salsa and a can of cream of chicken soup. you could use the low fat kind?) Cook on high for 6 hours or so. The chicken will shred up when it's done. You could mix in some ff sour cream, and you could serve it over some brown rice, or with whole wheat tortillas.

I haven't made it yet without the soup in it, I am going to try it tomorrow. I am going to make brown rice to go with it. And I am going to add FF sour cream to it when it's done cooking. It would probably need some salt added to it.

Does that sound like it fits for Phase 4?

This sounds so good and probably perfect for P4. I love crock pot foods. Keep those suggestions coming.

Have a great day.

Lynn

ash825
09-01-2011, 10:29 PM
Oh ladies, I've failed. I seriously suck at maintenance. I've been on it two weeks and it's become a "eat good a couple days, bomb a couple days, repeat." I'm up 8 lbs from my lowest and feeling pretty crappy. My clothes are tight. What should I do? I'm really bummed at my lack of willpower.

Determinedat47
09-01-2011, 10:58 PM
Oh ladies, I've failed. I seriously suck at maintenance. I've been on it two weeks and it's become a "eat good a couple days, bomb a couple days, repeat." I'm up 8 lbs from my lowest and feeling pretty crappy. My clothes are tight. What should I do? I'm really bummed at my lack of willpower.

I would say back to phase 1 or 2 until you get the pounds off and re-evaluate how you are going to handle maintenance. Do it now before you are 10,15 or 20 pounds up. This is exactly what I am afraid of. I start phase 3 next week and then phase off. I will croak if I unable to maintain after all of this time and money.

woolberger
09-02-2011, 12:15 AM
Oh ladies, I've failed. I seriously suck at maintenance. I've been on it two weeks and it's become a "eat good a couple days, bomb a couple days, repeat." I'm up 8 lbs from my lowest and feeling pretty crappy. My clothes are tight. What should I do? I'm really bummed at my lack of willpower.

Oh Ash...You haven't failed. Maintenance is hard. That's why we have this thread. I can relate to what you are saying. I have never really done phase 4 as written. I do pretty well tracking with MFP but I would love to be able to get a handle on the IP maintenance plan.

So you know that 5 of those pounds are what IP says you will gain back when you start eating carbs and building your glycogen stores so you are actually only up 3 pounds at most. If that makes you uncomfortable, you should go back to phase 1/2 to drop those pounds quickly. Then try phase 4 again with us. This is a lifelong process and we will have our ups & downs. Don't throw in the towel. You have done so well.:hug:

Lynn

bigpassport
09-02-2011, 12:38 AM
Oh ladies, I've failed. I seriously suck at maintenance. I've been on it two weeks and it's become a "eat good a couple days, bomb a couple days, repeat." I'm up 8 lbs from my lowest and feeling pretty crappy. My clothes are tight. What should I do? I'm really bummed at my lack of willpower.

Don't be discouraged! You've done such awesome work losing the weight. Resolve to keep the weight off and stick with it. I think going back to Phase 2 for a while might be a good idea (but if you do, spend some time planning how you will do maintenance differrently). Maybe you can ask your coach for guidance? I personally am having a very difficult time trying to figure out how to eat on maintenance. I don't think the Phase 4 sheet really gives us enough info, so I'm trying to combine it with MFP and low carb principles, but it seems like a lot of guesswork. If we are going to keep the extra weight off, we each HAVE TO figure out what is going to work for us day in and day out. Part of the process is going to be trial and error, so maybe you've just learned what won't work for you. That doesn't mean nothing will work for you.

brandam6
09-02-2011, 07:38 AM
Oh ladies, I've failed. I seriously suck at maintenance. I've been on it two weeks and it's become a "eat good a couple days, bomb a couple days, repeat." I'm up 8 lbs from my lowest and feeling pretty crappy. My clothes are tight. What should I do? I'm really bummed at my lack of willpower.

Maintenance is hard! Basically, it's starting over with a whole new diet, and change is hard. We have to learn portion control because nothing is pre-measured for us anymore. Maintenance is definitely not as black and white as the other phases. I am learning that there are still a lot of foods, I just can't keep in the house. I am eating a Phase 1 breakfast, Phase 2 lunch, and dinner I am still trying to figure out. Hopefully we can all figure this out together.

I also notice that if I track what I am eating, either writing it down, or tracking it online (And be totally honest about it, even when I screw up), I do better overall.

rubyh
09-02-2011, 08:08 AM
Oh ladies, I've failed. I seriously suck at maintenance. I've been on it two weeks and it's become a "eat good a couple days, bomb a couple days, repeat." I'm up 8 lbs from my lowest and feeling pretty crappy. My clothes are tight. What should I do? I'm really bummed at my lack of willpower.

Don't give up! This is the hardest thing you will do with IP, but it will be worth it in the end. I've maintained since first of April 11. I've had to figure out what I could and could not eat. I'm primarily a phase 2 kind of person with a free day once a week. It's just my body's response to carbs - it likes them a little too much. I also use My Fitness Pal tracker and it helps alot! I know that to maintain my weight, I must not let my carbs be over 30 % of my daily intake. Just go back to phase 1 or 2, drop a couple of lbs, then experiment with what you eat during the day - you have to figure out what triggers your weight gain.

capricious
09-02-2011, 10:11 AM
Menu wise here is roughly what I've been sticking to:
Breakfast-
Greek Yogurt 3/4 C, Berries 1C, Granola 1/3 C, 1 WW toast with 1T natural PB
or
3 slices Turkey or Chicken Bacon, 2 Eggs, 2 slices WW toast with very easy butter, 1/2 grapefruit with Stevia
or
'Egg McMuffin'- English Muffin easy butter, 1 Egg, ham or turkey bacon, cheese, 1/2 grapefruit
Lunch:
My favorite lunch by far is a Greek Salad:
Mixed Peppers (yellow, green, orange, red)
cucumbers
red onion
tomato
30 g lite feta
2T Italian dressing
I chop all of my peppers, cucumbers and onion on one day and pre-portion them for the next three days this makes it much quicker to put together. This can be topped with chicken for the protein or my go to tends to be 2 hard boiled eggs. I find hard boiled eggs to be great for a protein because they too can be made ahead and are ready for use when needed. They are filling, no muss and easy to eat on the go.
Dinner:
This is the most challenging meal by far. It is supposed to be our lightest meal but that is completely contradictory to societal norm and my family is having some difficulty adjusting ;) Last night I made a truly wondrous Beef Barley Soup that I found on All Recipes. I modified for the slow cooker and found it super yummy and filling I will definitely be making it again

woolberger
09-02-2011, 10:24 AM
Menu wise here is roughly what I've been sticking to:
Breakfast-
Greek Yogurt 3/4 C, Berries 1C, Granola 1/3 C, 1 WW toast with 1T natural PB
or
3 slices Turkey or Chicken Bacon, 2 Eggs, 2 slices WW toast with very easy butter, 1/2 grapefruit with Stevia
or
'Egg McMuffin'- English Muffin easy butter, 1 Egg, ham or turkey bacon, cheese, 1/2 grapefruit
Lunch:
My favorite lunch by far is a Greek Salad:
Mixed Peppers (yellow, green, orange, red)
cucumbers
red onion
tomato
30 g lite feta
2T Italian dressing
I chop all of my peppers, cucumbers and onion on one day and pre-portion them for the next three days this makes it much quicker to put together. This can be topped with chicken for the protein or my go to tends to be 2 hard boiled eggs. I find hard boiled eggs to be great for a protein because they too can be made ahead and are ready for use when needed. They are filling, no muss and easy to eat on the go.
Dinner:
This is the most challenging meal by far. It is supposed to be our lightest meal but that is completely contradictory to societal norm and my family is having some difficulty adjusting ;) Last night I made a truly wondrous Beef Barley Soup that I found on All Recipes. I modified for the slow cooker and found it super yummy and filling I will definitely be making it again

The barley soup sounds great...perfect for fall. Can you share the recipe with your modifications?

It sounds like you are in the swing of maintenance! Keep posting your ideas. They sound spot on.

capricious
09-02-2011, 09:06 PM
2 pounds Beef Stew meat
1 bay leaf
3 carrots, chopped
3 stalks celery, chopped
1 onion, chopped
4 cups water
4 cubes beef bouillon cube
1 package Stevia
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
1 (28 ounce) can chopped stewed tomatoes (I think any canned tomatoes will do)

1/2 cup barley
1 (16 ounce) package frozen mixed vegetables
salt to taste
ground black pepper to taste
Put everything before the Barley into a crockpot (I prepped everything the night before) and turn on low for 8- 10 hours. The closer you can get to 10 the better. An hour to two before eating add the barley, salt & pepper, mixed veggies...

capricious
09-02-2011, 09:26 PM
Oh ladies, I've failed. I seriously suck at maintenance. I've been on it two weeks and it's become a "eat good a couple days, bomb a couple days, repeat." I'm up 8 lbs from my lowest and feeling pretty crappy. My clothes are tight. What should I do? I'm really bummed at my lack of willpower.
Go back to Phase 1. Now!!! The rigor of it will refocus your mindset (being more strict with yourself). YOU HAVE NOT FAILED. You Succeeded in losing weight and you can Succeed in keeping it off. Maintenance is a VERY grey area but I agree with prior suggestions of Phase 1-ing it until you're back at goal (you KNOW you can do that because you have done it already). It is supposed to take 3 weeks to make a habit. After you get back to goal weight commit to following maintenance to the letter for at least 3 weeks. You would be surprised how much easier it is to follow along after you've made something a habit. Plan which day will be a free day to ensure that there is only one a week and when there is a slip- commit yourself to doing strict Phase 1/2 the next day- not just for the physical benefit of not producing insulin but for the mental benefit of reigning yourself in. Good luck Ash- you can do this!:hug::hug:

Lone Loser
09-02-2011, 09:39 PM
capricious -- the beef barley soup sounds wonderful! Definitely on my list of new things to try!

While I am only at Phase 3, my husband is now in Phase 4. He eats a Phase 3 breakfast, a Phase 2 lunch (uses salad dressing and has a cottage cheese or some other dairy with fat with his Phase 2 lunch) and then has a Phase 1 dinner with me and a sweet potatoe or some other carb. He isn't gaining any weight back -- three weeks. Of course, he is a man and they seem to get away with more than women do as far as eating.

It is good to know that you can go back to Phase 1 if things get out of control in maintenance.

Anyway, I am loving Phase 3 breakfast -- I cannot believe I can eat all of that food and not gain. It scares the willies out of me -- but, so far . . . no gain. (only been on Phase 3 for two days).

capricious
09-03-2011, 12:16 PM
capricious -- the beef barley soup sounds wonderful! Definitely on my list of new things to try!

While I am only at Phase 3, my husband is now in Phase 4. He eats a Phase 3 breakfast, a Phase 2 lunch (uses salad dressing and has a cottage cheese or some other dairy with fat with his Phase 2 lunch) and then has a Phase 1 dinner with me and a sweet potatoe or some other carb. He isn't gaining any weight back -- three weeks. Of course, he is a man and they seem to get away with more than women do as far as eating.

It is good to know that you can go back to Phase 1 if things get out of control in maintenance.

Anyway, I am loving Phase 3 breakfast -- I cannot believe I can eat all of that food and not gain. It scares the willies out of me -- but, so far . . . no gain. (only been on Phase 3 for two days).
Going into Phase 3 was SCARY. I could not wrap my head around the fact that I was supposed to eat all these extra calories and accept gaining weight (as I was told this is what would happen). My coach had to provide a lot of reassurance that my body would process the carbs properly now that my pancreas had been reset. To have faith in the process. I was one of the ones who lost weight in Phase 3 (but I did keep lunch and dinners to eggs & tuna I was just too freaked out) and when I moved into Phase 4 I couldn't bring myself to eat the carb in the evenings- it just seemed dicey- but am now finally introducing it and have been maintaining my current weight (yay!!) for the past couple weeks. The thing I never really realized before is that in order to maintain you have to accept healthful, measured eating. Which to my old self would have read: Diet; not everyday eating. Now I've come to accept that 6 days out of the week I have to be very conscious of what and how much I'm eating and for 1 day DON'T WORRY about it. And I find on that one day I still make healthful choices along with my unhealthy ones. As I pay in discomfort if I have something too sugary even if I'm not paying in weight gain :)

MInewgoal
09-03-2011, 01:11 PM
So...In phase 4, the Free day isn't followed by phase 1, just a normal day?

brandam6
09-03-2011, 04:01 PM
So...In phase 4, the Free day isn't followed by phase 1, just a normal day?

According to what was given to me when I went to phase 4, you are supposed to Phase 1 the day after your cheat day.

But I think it depends on how bad your free days are. If it's a non-stop fat fest, then your should to do Phase 1 for one day. If it's just a one meal, then you can go back to your normal eating. The way the sheet reads, it's almost like they are encouraging you to have a non-stop fast fest. But other than when we were in Vegas, I haven't done that at home yet. Mostly because I am too scared that I will get carried away. I don't trust myself!

bigpassport
09-03-2011, 04:58 PM
After one full week of Phase 4, DH and I are having our first full-on fun/free/cheat day. DH and I both continued to lose in Phase 3, and he has continued to lose on Phase 4 while I've maintained nicely on Phase 4.

So today we are allowing ourselves to experiment with a no holds barred cheat day. Tomorrow we plan to do Phase 1 and Monday back to Phase 4. Breakfast was heavenly (cinnamon roll pacakes), but I could only eat about a third of the meal before feeling stuffed. When lunch rolled around, I wasn't super hungry, but we got chicken fingers and fries anyway (a new place opened up near us and we wanted to try it). Don't know what's for dinner yet. I can already tell that I won't want to pig out like this every Saturday, it's just too much. I'm hopeful that if my weight on Monday is good, I will have the discipline to eat Phase 4 during the week and know that if I want a treat I just need to wait a few days until Saturday.

One thing I have definitely learned on this program is that if I'm going to indulge, the calories have to be worth it. I only want to eat the best tasting foods and don't want to waste calories on just okay foods. For example, a piece of really good chocolate cake would be worth indulging in on a free day but a Hostescs cupcake wouldn't be worth the calories to me.

bigpassport
09-05-2011, 11:09 AM
Wanted to share the results of my free day experiment. See prior post for deatils of the pig-out (btw, dinner was Chicago stle stuffed pizza and chocolate cake). The morning after my free day, my weight was up 4.2 lbs! I was bummed. I was nervous all day that the gain would be permanent and I'd have to lose it all again. We did a strict Phase 1 day yesterday as planned. This morning my weight was down 3 lbs, so up only 1.2 lbs overall. Phew! Like I said in my pp, I don't plan to completely overindulge like that every free-day, but it is a tremendous relief to know that following a free-day with a Phase 1 day really does work!

disgal
09-05-2011, 12:31 PM
After one full week of Phase 4, DH and I are having our first full-on fun/free/cheat day. DH and I both continued to lose in Phase 3, and he has continued to lose on Phase 4 while I've maintained nicely on Phase 4.

So today we are allowing ourselves to experiment with a no holds barred cheat day. Tomorrow we plan to do Phase 1 and Monday back to Phase 4. Breakfast was heavenly (cinnamon roll pacakes), but I could only eat about a third of the meal before feeling stuffed. When lunch rolled around, I wasn't super hungry, but we got chicken fingers and fries anyway (a new place opened up near us and we wanted to try it). Don't know what's for dinner yet. I can already tell that I won't want to pig out like this every Saturday, it's just too much. I'm hopeful that if my weight on Monday is good, I will have the discipline to eat Phase 4 during the week and know that if I want a treat I just need to wait a few days until Saturday.

One thing I have definitely learned on this program is that if I'm going to indulge, the calories have to be worth it. I only want to eat the best tasting foods and don't want to waste calories on just okay foods. For example, a piece of really good chocolate cake would be worth indulging in on a free day but a Hostescs cupcake wouldn't be worth the calories to me.

Wanted to share the results of my free day experiment. See prior post for deatils of the pig-out (btw, dinner was Chicago stle stuffed pizza and chocolate cake). The morning after my free day, my weight was up 4.2 lbs! I was bummed. I was nervous all day that the gain would be permanent and I'd have to lose it all again. We did a strict Phase 1 day yesterday as planned. This morning my weight was down 3 lbs, so up only 1.2 lbs overall. Phew! Like I said in my pp, I don't plan to completely overindulge like that every free-day, but it is a tremendous relief to know that following a free-day with a Phase 1 day really does work!


Thank you for sharing your experience!!! Hubby and I are both enjoying maintenance very much!! We had pizza last night...even a few drinks!! I agree totally that some foods are just not worth the calories! We had ordered some appetizers when we were out...tried a small bite of various items, but if they weren't absolutely delicious I was done eating them. Today we are back to Phase 1. My previous experience when I cheated during Phase 1 was that it would take a couple days before the added weight dropped off. So now we will stay on Phase 1 until the weight comes off.... one or two days...and then go back to maintenance.

I am also finding I really don't have too many cravings anymore....which is wonderful! I used to look at food and drool. Now I find it's so much easier to be around junk food and not be missing it. Kinda wierd, but I'm thrilled that it seems I have lost my desire for all the CRAP!!! I love IP!!

Best wishes!!:carrot:

woolberger
09-05-2011, 05:03 PM
Lee & Disgal,

Way to go! It is reassuring to see the scale drop after that P1 day. It's great that you and your DH's can do this together. My hubby is very supportive but really can eat anything he wants.

So I have officially been maintaining 6 months. I was trying to reflect on actual lifestyle changes I have made to keep my weight in check.

1. I continue to use the WF products I like. Why waste calories.
2. I weigh almost every day and have a "cut-off" weight that sends me back to P1.
3. I refuse to drink my calories unless I get a buzz.
4. I keep some IP or alternative products around for treats and to remind myself what lifetime program I am on.
5. I continue to try new recipes and new veggies so I don't get bored.
6. At restaurants, I almost always order grilled protein and a salad because you never know what they put in their sauces and specialty dishes.
7. I take pilates classes 3 times per week.
8. I ride my bicycle for quick errands to the store.

I'm sure there are other things I'm not even thinking of. What changes have others made?

Lone Loser
09-05-2011, 05:05 PM
bigpassport and disgal -- thanks for sharing your experiences! I am pretty scared and pretty excited about going to Phase 4 soon. DH has been on Phase 4 and he is still losing weight too.

Funny -- now I drool over sauteed veggies and tuna over a bed of lettuce and WF ranch dressing with a pickle and bannana peppers.

I really get carried away in my mind about the cheat day -- but, then, I remind myself how far I've come and how I don't want to get back in the groove of mindless eating. And I wonder . . . "will I ever stop at McDonald's or Wendy's again?". At this point, I don't think so. If I'm going to cheat, it is going to be worth it.

It's kind of crazy how obsessive I have become over this.

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
09-06-2011, 11:19 AM
Lee & Disgal,

Way to go! It is reassuring to see the scale drop after that P1 day. It's great that you and your DH's can do this together. My hubby is very supportive but really can eat anything he wants.

So I have officially been maintaining 6 months. I was trying to reflect on actual lifestyle changes I have made to keep my weight in check.

1. I continue to use the WF products I like. Why waste calories.
2. I weigh almost every day and have a "cut-off" weight that sends me back to P1.
3. I refuse to drink my calories unless I get a buzz.
4. I keep some IP or alternative products around for treats and to remind myself what lifetime program I am on.
5. I continue to try new recipes and new veggies so I don't get bored.
6. At restaurants, I almost always order grilled protein and a salad because you never know what they put in their sauces and specialty dishes.
7. I take pilates classes 3 times per week.
8. I ride my bicycle for quick errands to the store.

I'm sure there are other things I'm not even thinking of. What changes have others made?Congrats on 6 months and thanks for sharing, this does give us all hope...
I for one don't like eating out as much as I use to, but that could be because I still like my cooking and I know it is healthy and no one knows what they put in their foods in the restaurant. I was burger shopping yesterday and man why does every product have to have breadcrumbs and this and that? can't you just make a ground patty and sell that? Oh well I buy fresh ground and make into patties to freeze now...:D

carlasherea
09-06-2011, 01:46 PM
So I have been on maintenance for 1 year and 3 months. On my 1 yr anniversary I weighed exactly my goal weight and was very excited! I got very busy and lazy this summer and stopped going to my exercise classes and got sloppy with my eating and gained a few lbs. I can still wear all my clothes, but I can tell they fit a little differently. What I appreciate about Ideal Protein is that I have the tools to get back on track. I am starting Phase 1 today and will continue until I am back to goal. I then plan on Phasing off correctly and following the Maintenance Protocol which really works well. I'm still proud of the fact that I have been wearing the same clothes for 14 months. I have never been able to say that!!

Here's to getting right back to my goal weight. I should be there in 2-3 weeks!!

woolberger
09-06-2011, 01:55 PM
So I have been on maintenance for 1 year and 3 months. On my 1 yr anniversary I weighed exactly my goal weight and was very excited! I got very busy and lazy this summer and stopped going to my exercise classes and got sloppy with my eating and gained a few lbs. I can still wear all my clothes, but I can tell they fit a little differently. What I appreciate about Ideal Protein is that I have the tools to get back on track. I am starting Phase 1 today and will continue until I am back to goal. I then plan on Phasing off correctly and following the Maintenance Protocol which really works well. I'm still proud of the fact that I have been wearing the same clothes for 14 months. I have never been able to say that!!

Here's to getting right back to my goal weight. I should be there in 2-3 weeks!!

Wow...that is great!! Did you follow the IP P4 maintenance or did you track or...? It's great to see you back here. I'm pretty sure I've never worn the same size clothes for 14 months straight. Let us know how it goes.

Lynn

disgal
09-06-2011, 06:54 PM
So I have been on maintenance for 1 year and 3 months. On my 1 yr anniversary I weighed exactly my goal weight and was very excited! I got very busy and lazy this summer and stopped going to my exercise classes and got sloppy with my eating and gained a few lbs. I can still wear all my clothes, but I can tell they fit a little differently. What I appreciate about Ideal Protein is that I have the tools to get back on track. I am starting Phase 1 today and will continue until I am back to goal. I then plan on Phasing off correctly and following the Maintenance Protocol which really works well. I'm still proud of the fact that I have been wearing the same clothes for 14 months. I have never been able to say that!!

Here's to getting right back to my goal weight. I should be there in 2-3 weeks!!

Wow!! It's really great to hear how you have maintained so well over the past 15 months!! Way to go!!:carrot: You give many of us hope that we can also be successful at maintenance!!! And I totally agree.... we have the "tools" to get back on track! I am so thankful for IP!! Congrats on a job well done!!

brandam6
09-06-2011, 10:54 PM
So I have officially been maintaining 6 months. I was trying to reflect on actual lifestyle changes I have made to keep my weight in check.

1. I continue to use the WF products I like. Why waste calories.
2. I weigh almost every day and have a "cut-off" weight that sends me back to P1.
3. I refuse to drink my calories unless I get a buzz.
4. I keep some IP or alternative products around for treats and to remind myself what lifetime program I am on.
5. I continue to try new recipes and new veggies so I don't get bored.
6. At restaurants, I almost always order grilled protein and a salad because you never know what they put in their sauces and specialty dishes.
7. I take pilates classes 3 times per week.
8. I ride my bicycle for quick errands to the store.

I'm sure there are other things I'm not even thinking of. What changes have others made?

Woohoo on maintaining for 6 months! I hope I can say that in 5 months!

Most of my changes are the same as yours, except for the pilates classes (I exercise though, I run on the elliptical or do pilates or walking videos 3-4 times a week), and the bicycle to the store (the traffic is too bad where I live).

I am of the exact same opinion on "drinking my calories". I don't have to drink as many "calories" anymore to catch that buzz, though. :)
I still eat salads for lunch almost every day.
I still eat IP food or alternative for breakfast and for snacks.
I watch portion sizes and calories.

There were a lot of things that I never ate before IP that I will continue eating regularly forever. There are alot of things that I ate a lot of before IP that I will never eat much of ever again.

I find it harder going out to eat in maintenance. I think it's because I don't have as strict of set of rules on what I can eat (Really I do, but I don't always order what I should, that devil on my shoulder shows up and talks me into getting some carby, fatty thing). I need to keep up the habit of deciding what I am going to order before I leave the house.

I need to keep drinking all the water. I have my good days and bad days with this. I have become a coffee junkie. I never drank coffee before IP. But I was a 12 pack a day diet pop drinker, at least I'm not doing that.

I am still working on the things I need to change in my lifestyle. Still figuring it out. It is reassuring to know that I am doing the same things that the experienced maintainers are doing. Thanks, Lynn for posting that. I hope some others post the lifestyle changes they have made.

carlasherea
09-07-2011, 10:04 AM
Wow...that is great!! Did you follow the IP P4 maintenance or did you track or...? It's great to see you back here. I'm pretty sure I've never worn the same size clothes for 14 months straight. Let us know how it goes.

Lynn

I did follow faithfully the maintenance protocol for a few months and then got sloppy. I would end up having carbs at lunch, but then what I would do is not have them at dinner. I adjusted when needed. Kind of "robbed Peter to pay Paul!" I was really amazed at how after my cheat day the extra "weight" I had gained just disappeared! I really did end up having some sort of cheat everyday, but would adjust accordingly and it worked for me!

capricious
09-07-2011, 02:16 PM
So I have officially been maintaining 6 months. I was trying to reflect on actual lifestyle changes I have made to keep my weight in check.

1. I continue to use the WF products I like. Why waste calories.
2. I weigh almost every day and have a "cut-off" weight that sends me back to P1.
3. I refuse to drink my calories unless I get a buzz.
4. I keep some IP or alternative products around for treats and to remind myself what lifetime program I am on.
5. I continue to try new recipes and new veggies so I don't get bored.
6. At restaurants, I almost always order grilled protein and a salad because you never know what they put in their sauces and specialty dishes.
7. I take pilates classes 3 times per week.
8. I ride my bicycle for quick errands to the store.

I'm sure there are other things I'm not even thinking of. What changes have others made?
I agree with Brandam that I do the first six things on your list but my exercise is usually step aerobics either a video or a class...
I know too from your previous posts that you track using MFP and I think this is almost essential in maintenance whether you're using a program or jotting down what you're having throughout the day in order to have accountability...
my additions to the list?
1. Be conscious of everything I put in me
2. Keeping eating simple; the more bites of this and that you have the easier it is for your weight to creep up, so I stick to my meals and 1- 2 snacks per day, very much limiting 'grazing'
3. Prepping veggies to be used in meals throughout the week
4. Because I am a 'foodie' and really enjoy cooking/eating- I try to spend more of my food thoughts on planning and preparation than eating. This has fulfilled my need for enjoyment of food through an avenue other than simply eating it. I search for recipes & prep for meals rather utilizing that time for snacking and I try to find things that will healthfully satisfy my and my family's dietary requirements and tastebuds :D
5. Still practicing using the word NO. Had to do this frequently while I was on Phase 1 as it is so habitual to have this and have that, that a part of you almost has a tantrum when it is told NO. Sometimes I still have to catch myself when having a craving and use the old stand by- NO. And I'm always better off for having said it to myself...;)

So I have been on maintenance for 1 year and 3 months. On my 1 yr anniversary I weighed exactly my goal weight and was very excited! I got very busy and lazy this summer and stopped going to my exercise classes and got sloppy with my eating and gained a few lbs. I can still wear all my clothes, but I can tell they fit a little differently. What I appreciate about Ideal Protein is that I have the tools to get back on track. I am starting Phase 1 today and will continue until I am back to goal. I then plan on Phasing off correctly and following the Maintenance Protocol which really works well. I'm still proud of the fact that I have been wearing the same clothes for 14 months. I have never been able to say that!!

Here's to getting right back to my goal weight. I should be there in 2-3 weeks!!
Wow carlasherea- you're a great inspiration for those of us in maintenance and I'm happy to have you back- cause you're a great role model!:carrot:

capricious
09-07-2011, 02:26 PM
I had a great NSV yesterday. Finally got up the courage to go back to my step class. I had been a bit hesitant because prior to starting IP I had been going 3- 4 times per week and then after IP quit going cold turkey at the advice of my coach- thought that the instructor might be upset that I just quit like that.
But I was dying to have that exercise high again so I went back. Was a few minutes late cause I had to drop off my kids in childcare first. So when I walked in class had already begun and the instructor was shouting out instructions and when she saw me she stopped altogether and kept saying "Wow oh Wow WOW" so that everyone was looking to see what was going on- definitely a bit embarrassing but heartwarming as well. And I felt great after class- so here's to being back on track fitness wise :carrot::carrot:

woolberger
09-08-2011, 10:30 AM
Cap

You're right...I do track using MFP. I forgot that. I try to keep my carbs <100/day.
Good job getting to your step class. I can't tell you how much I love my Pilates classes. I have never been an exerciser and I really look forward to my classes.

sunnymae
09-08-2011, 04:24 PM
Thanks Ladies for all your tips and stories on maintaining your weight loss.
I phased off in Feb. 2011 at 121, my lowest weight and I am now up at 126.7. I'm obsessed about getting it back off as I gave myself a 5lb weight gain and realize we are supposed to gain back 3-5 after phasing off. I'm grateful as I can be to be obsessing over 5-6 pounds and do something about it now, rather than 20 lbs later, something I already have proven to be good at, so why prove it again :0)
Thing is, I really liked the way I felt at 121.
I'm back watching my food on stricter maintainance protocol.
Here's what started not working for me as a kind of "cons" list to the great "pro" list I just read on this thread.
-I wasn't eating in a timely manner and was starting to have large dinners again.
- I was not drinking enough water and slacked on and off my vitamins.
-I was starting to graze and not stick to 3 squares and two snacks.
-Probably caught a few more "buzzes" as someone put it last 2 weeks on vacation. That would lead to more sweets.
-Started blurring my treat days and not balancing them out with less either over the same day or strict ph.1 the next day.
--In other words, being left to my own devices, making BS up and getting further away from program.

So with my confession I have planned my ph.1 re-boot for November. In the meantime I have started practicing more vigilance and ordered from Nashua yesterday, especially for my breakfasts. If I start the day well, the rest goes better as well.
Thanks for all your posts. I could not do this without sharing with everyone.

cajunladybug22
09-09-2011, 12:15 PM
Hi! So what does everyone have for their snacks during the day? I'm at a loss for those and find myself going to grab a spoonfull of peanut butter. Can y'all share your snack choices with me?
Thanks!!!

JoLoMN
09-11-2011, 01:13 PM
Cap

You're right...I do track using MFP. I forgot that. I try to keep my carbs <100/day.

Just curious, what are your typical total calories on Maintenance?

disgal
09-11-2011, 01:53 PM
Hi all! Thought I'd check in and see how everyone is doing!! Hubby and I are happily in maintenance somewhere around week two.

So far so good!! :carrot: We are both amazed at how well this is going!! We are not counting calories, but we are definitely watching what we're eating and making better choices! Last weekend we had our first "treat" night. Drinks and pizza....YUM!! It took about 3 days to take the weight off (I think I gained 5 pounds...if you want to call it weight gain that is). Hubby and I did Phase 1 for 2 days afterwards and then went back to maintenance after that. We are trying to have our "fats" at lunch and "carbs" at dinner and that seems to work for us. I still have a Phase 3 breakfast, and sometimes a protein bar for a mid-morning snack. For lunch....I have gone out about 3 times this past week....a couple times had buffalo chix salad (not breaded and no croutons) with bleu cheese dressing. Another day I had meatloaf, with two sides of broccoli!! I am sooo happy I can still go out with the ladies for lunch and enjoy what I'm eating without feeling guilty!! :carrot: For dinner we have been doing pasta with sauce, or chix with veggies...maybe a sweet potato!! One night I had some cereal for dinner...followed by a shake for some protein (because I didn't feel like cooking and wasn't really hungry).
Last night we had another "treat" nite...pizza and drinks again (Hubby said to me....next week let's have something besides pizza....LOL....what can I say...it's my addition)!!! So today we are back on Phase 1. The scale says I'm only up 2 this time (oh yeah....had ice cream for dessert too). Tomorrow we're going back to maintenance, but my coach says just to "watch" the carbs for a day or two until the pounds come off.
I am so happy with how my clothes are fitting (and at the new reflection I see in the mirror), that I am motivated to keep the weight off! No more elastic wait bands for me!! LOL!! As always ....I am THRILLED with IP!! It has changed my LIFE!!! :carrot: Best wishes to all!!

woolberger
09-11-2011, 02:53 PM
Just curious, what are your typical total calories on Maintenance?

I just plugged in my weight, activity level and the fact that I wanted to maintain. MFP says I need to eat between 1500-1600 cal/day and that seems to work.

Lone Loser
09-11-2011, 04:58 PM
Hi all! Thought I'd check in and see how everyone is doing!! Hubby and I are happily in maintenance somewhere around week two.

So far so good!! :carrot: We are both amazed at how well this is going!! We are not counting calories, but we are definitely watching what we're eating and making better choices! Last weekend we had our first "treat" night. Drinks and pizza....YUM!! It took about 3 days to take the weight off (I think I gained 5 pounds...if you want to call it weight gain that is). Hubby and I did Phase 1 for 2 days afterwards and then went back to maintenance after that. We are trying to have our "fats" at lunch and "carbs" at dinner and that seems to work for us. I still have a Phase 3 breakfast, and sometimes a protein bar for a mid-morning snack. For lunch....I have gone out about 3 times this past week....a couple times had buffalo chix salad (not breaded and no croutons) with bleu cheese dressing. Another day I had meatloaf, with two sides of broccoli!! I am sooo happy I can still go out with the ladies for lunch and enjoy what I'm eating without feeling guilty!! :carrot: For dinner we have been doing pasta with sauce, or chix with veggies...maybe a sweet potato!! One night I had some cereal for dinner...followed by a shake for some protein (because I didn't feel like cooking and wasn't really hungry).
Last night we had another "treat" nite...pizza and drinks again (Hubby said to me....next week let's have something besides pizza....LOL....what can I say...it's my addition)!!! So today we are back on Phase 1. The scale says I'm only up 2 this time (oh yeah....had ice cream for dessert too). Tomorrow we're going back to maintenance, but my coach says just to "watch" the carbs for a day or two until the pounds come off.
I am so happy with how my clothes are fitting (and at the new reflection I see in the mirror), that I am motivated to keep the weight off! No more elastic wait bands for me!! LOL!! As always ....I am THRILLED with IP!! It has changed my LIFE!!! :carrot: Best wishes to all!!

It is so great to hear about your experience with P4! :D

Wednesday is DH's birthday and my first cheat day. It worked out nicely that it is his birthday and we both can have cake and ice cream. I am so excited to be able to have the social part of eating back in my life -- the rules seem a little sketchy to me, but with everything you all have said and drilling my coach about what is allowed, I hope to be able to make the right choices. It will be very strange to not see my coach every week -- I think I will see her next week, two weeks after that and then two months after that. Not sure where this journey will take me -- I've always gained the weight back -- hopefully not this time! Even in P3, it just seems impossible to eat that much food for breakfast (lunch and dinner) and not gain the weight back -- sort of unreal.

disgal
09-11-2011, 05:44 PM
It is so great to hear about your experience with P4! :D

Wednesday is DH's birthday and my first cheat day. It worked out nicely that it is his birthday and we both can have cake and ice cream. I am so excited to be able to have the social part of eating back in my life -- the rules seem a little sketchy to me, but with everything you all have said and drilling my coach about what is allowed, I hope to be able to make the right choices. It will be very strange to not see my coach every week -- I think I will see her next week, two weeks after that and then two months after that. Not sure where this journey will take me -- I've always gained the weight back -- hopefully not this time! Even in P3, it just seems impossible to eat that much food for breakfast (lunch and dinner) and not gain the weight back -- sort of unreal.

Happy Bday to your Hubby!!! :carrot: Enjoy your CAKE!! ;)

I am with you....it does seem impossible to eat so much food and not gain the weight back!! Hubby and I are still waiting for that " 2 -5 lb weight gain" to happen. We are hoping that with the combination of eating properly and exercising regularly we'll have a fighting chance to remain at our ideal weight!!
I honestly think it all has to do with "resting your pancreas" and then retraining it to release just enough insulin , and have your cells use the food as energy so it doesn't get stored as fat. At least that's my understanding anyway! I pray that this is the last time I will deal with taking "off" the weight EVER again!!:) Good luck to you and yours!!

wildflower613
09-12-2011, 11:07 AM
(This has been Cross-Posted in the Experienced thread, sorry if you see 2x)

I was wondering if you experienced IP'ers could help me with the PH3 breakfast planning -just a couple of questions.

1) Is it ok to use soy milk as your dairy? I really just prefer it

2) How do you have a grain/fruit and yogurt without too many carbs
It seems with the grain and fruit I have 50 carbs but I am having a hard time finding a low carb yogurt that won't bring the total too high? How do you deal with this.

3)Also, I don't want to have eggs everyday I know I will get sick of them. What are some ways you add the dairy and protein, besides bacon without adding too much carbs sugar (and fat) like in cottage cheese and yogurt

Thank you so much if you can help :)

ItsAboutTime
09-12-2011, 04:15 PM
When you get done with P3 and have reset your body and such can you go back to a shake in your coffee at breakfast for P4? I'm not a big breakfast person and when I look at P3 I get worried about the food and making the time for it and I love the grab and go I get with the shake during the week. I can see myself doing the breakfast on the weekends because I kinda miss eating food at breakfast when I'm home. I keep telling myself P3 is only 14 days and if I can eat this little for as long as I have 14 days will be nothing! Anyone still doing an IP packet at breakfast in maintenance instead of all the food? Thanks!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
09-12-2011, 05:51 PM
Hi all! Thought I'd check in and see how everyone is doing!! Hubby and I are happily in maintenance somewhere around week two.

So far so good!! :carrot: We are both amazed at how well this is going!! We are not counting calories, but we are definitely watching what we're eating and making better choices! Last weekend we had our first "treat" night. Drinks and pizza....YUM!! It took about 3 days to take the weight off (I think I gained 5 pounds...if you want to call it weight gain that is). Hubby and I did Phase 1 for 2 days afterwards and then went back to maintenance after that. We are trying to have our "fats" at lunch and "carbs" at dinner and that seems to work for us. I still have a Phase 3 breakfast, and sometimes a protein bar for a mid-morning snack. For lunch....I have gone out about 3 times this past week....a couple times had buffalo chix salad (not breaded and no croutons) with bleu cheese dressing. Another day I had meatloaf, with two sides of broccoli!! I am sooo happy I can still go out with the ladies for lunch and enjoy what I'm eating without feeling guilty!! :carrot: For dinner we have been doing pasta with sauce, or chix with veggies...maybe a sweet potato!! One night I had some cereal for dinner...followed by a shake for some protein (because I didn't feel like cooking and wasn't really hungry).
Last night we had another "treat" nite...pizza and drinks again (Hubby said to me....next week let's have something besides pizza....LOL....what can I say...it's my addition)!!! So today we are back on Phase 1. The scale says I'm only up 2 this time (oh yeah....had ice cream for dessert too). Tomorrow we're going back to maintenance, but my coach says just to "watch" the carbs for a day or two until the pounds come off.
I am so happy with how my clothes are fitting (and at the new reflection I see in the mirror), that I am motivated to keep the weight off! No more elastic wait bands for me!! LOL!! As always ....I am THRILLED with IP!! It has changed my LIFE!!! :carrot: Best wishes to all!!

Thanks for sharing, this makes me feel it can be done once I am in maintenance. Keep up the good work.

disgal
09-12-2011, 07:35 PM
Keep up the good work.

Right back atchya'!!!! :carrot: Just noticed you're at 155!! WOW!!! You go girl!!!;)

disgal
09-12-2011, 07:54 PM
(This has been Cross-Posted in the Experienced thread, sorry if you see 2x)

I was wondering if you experienced IP'ers could help me with the PH3 breakfast planning -just a couple of questions.

1) Is it ok to use soy milk as your dairy? I really just prefer it

2) How do you have a grain/fruit and yogurt without too many carbs
It seems with the grain and fruit I have 50 carbs but I am having a hard time finding a low carb yogurt that won't bring the total too high? How do you deal with this.

3)Also, I don't want to have eggs everyday I know I will get sick of them. What are some ways you add the dairy and protein, besides bacon without adding too much carbs sugar (and fat) like in cottage cheese and yogurt

Thank you so much if you can help :)

1)Yup...you can!! :carrot:
2)My sheet says "no more than 120 calories from Dairy (this would be 8 oz of lo fat plain yogurt). It doesn't say specifically how many carbs to have....so I go by the calories. And....I usually just have 8 oz of skim milk because I missed it so much!! ;)
3)Hmmmm...cereal/milk and add a protein shake? Pancakes with a bit of egg whites added for protein (and/or maybe a pork chop...which is one of the IP suggestions)? Peanut butter on toast (just watch the total fat and keep it under 15 grams for the whole meal).

Hope that kinda helps.:smug:

wildflower613
09-12-2011, 10:32 PM
1)Yup...you can!! :carrot:
2)My sheet says "no more than 120 calories from Dairy (this would be 8 oz of lo fat plain yogurt). It doesn't say specifically how many carbs to have....so I go by the calories. And....I usually just have 8 oz of skim milk because I missed it so much!! ;)
3)Hmmmm...cereal/milk and add a protein shake? Pancakes with a bit of egg whites added for protein (and/or maybe a pork chop...which is one of the IP suggestions)? Peanut butter on toast (just watch the total fat and keep it under 15 grams for the whole meal).

Hope that kinda helps.:smug:

Thank you! Do you keep track of sugar totals in your items too or disregard that? I just realized there is no max on sugar listed?

disgal
09-13-2011, 05:30 AM
Thank you! Do you keep track of sugar totals in your items too or disregard that? I just realized there is no max on sugar listed?

Hmmmm.....I guess I basically just follow the guidelines, staying within the alotted carbs, calories and fat. :smug: Best wishes!

woolberger
09-13-2011, 09:13 AM
(This has been Cross-Posted in the Experienced thread, sorry if you see 2x)

I was wondering if you experienced IP'ers could help me with the PH3 breakfast planning -just a couple of questions.

1) Is it ok to use soy milk as your dairy? I really just prefer it

2) How do you have a grain/fruit and yogurt without too many carbs
It seems with the grain and fruit I have 50 carbs but I am having a hard time finding a low carb yogurt that won't bring the total too high? How do you deal with this.

3)Also, I don't want to have eggs everyday I know I will get sick of them. What are some ways you add the dairy and protein, besides bacon without adding too much carbs sugar (and fat) like in cottage cheese and yogurt

Thank you so much if you can help :)

Make sure your soy milk is not sweetened but it is otherwise OK.

My breakfast was always:

6 oz greek yogurt - 7 carbs, 15 protein (sweetened with Starbucks SF vanilla syrup)
2 slices sprouted bread - 26 carbs, 24 protein(with CBNB spray, splenda & cinnamon
Small apple ~19 carbs

That was always plenty of food for me.

woolberger
09-13-2011, 09:25 AM
When you get done with P3 and have reset your body and such can you go back to a shake in your coffee at breakfast for P4? I'm not a big breakfast person and when I look at P3 I get worried about the food and making the time for it and I love the grab and go I get with the shake during the week. I can see myself doing the breakfast on the weekends because I kinda miss eating food at breakfast when I'm home. I keep telling myself P3 is only 14 days and if I can eat this little for as long as I have 14 days will be nothing! Anyone still doing an IP packet at breakfast in maintenance instead of all the food? Thanks!

I have to admit, I am not a big breakfast eater either. Just don't have an appetite in the morning. I get chocolate & vanilla RTD's from Lindora and probably have at least 1/day. I'll eat breakfast with my Dad & Hubby on the weekends but I still make myself the crispy cereal pancake with WF syrup. I did follow the PH 3 guideline exactly when I was phasing off.

Thank you Lone Loser, Disgal, Sunnymae and anyone else I might have missed for posting your maintenance experiences. I am really motivated by your successes. I love hearing about new ideas to keep this interesting. You guys rock!

bigpassport
09-13-2011, 11:33 AM
To answer the question about protein in Phase 3 breakfasts and what to eat for Phase 4 breakfasts, for Phase 3 I had Fiber One Honey Cluster cereal with nonfat greek yogurt and either bluberries or strawberries. I didn't add another protein because it was too much food. My coach said it was fine. In Phase 4 I've tried to reduce my daily carb total, so I am having Special K Protein cereal with nonfat yogurt and strawberies or blueberries.

After 2 full weeks on Phase 4, I'm 4 lbs under goal and my Phase 3 start weight:) And that's with a free day once a week:)

wildflower613
09-13-2011, 11:37 AM
To answer the question about protein in Phase 3 breakfasts and what to eat for Phase 4 breakfasts, for Phase 3 I had Fiber One Honey Cluster cereal with nonfat greek yogurt and either bluberries or strawberries. I didn't add another protein because it was too much food. My coach said it was fine. In Phase 4 I've tried to reduce my daily carb total, so I am having Special K Protein cereal with nonfat yogurt and strawberies or blueberries.

After 2 full weeks on Phase 4, I'm 4 lbs under goal and my Phase 3 start weight:) And that's with a free day once a week:)

This is good news ^^^^ I try to just have FAITH in the program but still so very nervous about maintaining and especially with that free day. I assume you have it the same day each week, right?

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
09-13-2011, 11:48 AM
To answer the question about protein in Phase 3 breakfasts and what to eat for Phase 4 breakfasts, for Phase 3 I had Fiber One Honey Cluster cereal with nonfat greek yogurt and either bluberries or strawberries. I didn't add another protein because it was too much food. My coach said it was fine. In Phase 4 I've tried to reduce my daily carb total, so I am having Special K Protein cereal with nonfat yogurt and strawberies or blueberries.

After 2 full weeks on Phase 4, I'm 4 lbs under goal and my Phase 3 start weight:) And that's with a free day once a week:) wow that is great news that you are still losing... I hope when I am ready to move to maintenance I will be ready. I know with all of your help I will be as there is so much advice here I will just look back on it and get my info from here. Have a great day all.

capricious
09-13-2011, 05:35 PM
Well it is almost a month of maintaining for me... I'm happy to be at the same weight that I was just after starting Ph4 but at the same time it's like a part of me hopes that the scale will read a lower number every time I get on it... every once in a while I get a morning where it tells me 139.5 (I usually weigh about 140-142) and I'll find myself trying to cut back on the days when it doesn't say 139.5- which is the majority. I think this led to last week's total and utter blow out of a free day- I ate as though it were the last day on earth and everything that I'd ever loved must be tried again regardless of whether there was room for it in my stomach or not. And by the end of the day ended up sick again. I think I must be a slow learner. I've had 3 free days and 2 of them have ended in me being sick due to excess. I really swore to myself this past time- I am not doing this to myself again. So valuable lesson learned- I cannot eat OR drink too much even if it is my free day. And that if I want to lose weight (seeing 139 on the scale on a regular basis) the way too go about it is not thru deprivation but rather returning to Phase 1/ 2. I did end up doing Phase 1 for 2 days following my free day. It took that long for me to feel like my system was cleaned out and that 'yes, I do still have control'. Ahhhh balance, so very difficult to find, keep and maintain but I keep working on it. Well... now that my maintenance confession is over I hope you're all doing well...

bigpassport
09-13-2011, 06:34 PM
This is good news ^^^^ I try to just have FAITH in the program but still so very nervous about maintaining and especially with that free day. I assume you have it the same day each week, right?

Yes, we do it the same day each week...Saturday. I think as we have special occasions or holidays, we'll move our free day around.

longdivision
09-13-2011, 08:48 PM
Yes, we do it the same day each week...Saturday. I think as we have special occasions or holidays, we'll move our free day around.

my free day is every saturday as well... which makes for a pretty sad sunday.

anyone else find that the things you eat on your free days really don't taste that good? i've had 4 free days so far and i've had pizza, burritos, chocolate, ice cream and coconut wine. i honestly haven't cared for any of it. i find that anything with real sugar in it is waaaaay too sweet, and most "cheat" foods make me feel yucky for the rest of the day and bloated for all of sunday.

anyone else have trouble eating on regular maintenance days? i'm just never hungry anymore. i pretty much never eat my "carb" meal, and every now and then i have a "fat" meal, but really it's just a salad with avocado and a little bit of slivered almonds. oh, and a little cheese because i really like cheese, but i still use WF dressings. i think the worst i do on a normal day is eat low carb bread. i try to get in as much protein as possible, which usually means that i eat a bar or have a shake. don't get me wrong, i eat 3 meals every day, i'm just not really interested in eating them lately.

Lone Loser
09-13-2011, 10:55 PM
Happy Bday to your Hubby!!! :carrot: Enjoy your CAKE!! ;)

I am with you....it does seem impossible to eat so much food and not gain the weight back!! Hubby and I are still waiting for that " 2 -5 lb weight gain" to happen. We are hoping that with the combination of eating properly and exercising regularly we'll have a fighting chance to remain at our ideal weight!!
I honestly think it all has to do with "resting your pancreas" and then retraining it to release just enough insulin , and have your cells use the food as energy so it doesn't get stored as fat. At least that's my understanding anyway! I pray that this is the last time I will deal with taking "off" the weight EVER again!!:) Good luck to you and yours!!

Thanks! Tomorrow is my first big "cheat" day -- then we go to Saturday's -- next Saturday, not this Saturday. I've been dreaming of this day for a long, long time! Thanks for the encouraging advice -- I've just got to trust that it will be okay. So far, it has all worked out. I've even lost a couple of pounds on P3 -- very strange. So P4 should be okay -- like you said. I'm pretty short, so a few pounds will really show up fast. :dizzy:

sunnymae
09-14-2011, 11:54 AM
I have to admit, I am not a big breakfast eater either. Just don't have an appetite in the morning. I get chocolate & vanilla RTD's from Lindora and probably have at least 1/day. I'll eat breakfast with my Dad & Hubby on the weekends but I still make myself the crispy cereal pancake with WF syrup. I did follow the PH 3 guideline exactly when I was phasing off.

Thank you Lone Loser, Disgal, Sunnymae and anyone else I might have missed for posting your maintenance experiences. I am really motivated by your successes. I love hearing about new ideas to keep this interesting. You guys rock!

Thanks all...I love this thread of all the one's I've been on since phasing out. I fell off the wagon and gained 7lbs, which I am slowly, and I mean slowly starting to lose, thanks to all of your imput, stories and tips.

Like woolberger, I'm back to IP breakfasts for a little while to get my day straight, and start burning with fast convenient breakfasts, just so I get rolling for the day.
Cut down on alcohol with the end of summer and "party" head I got into.My free days were turning into a blur...very quickly as old habits die hard.
Switched back my cheese intake to lunch instead of dinner...boy that does NOT work for me I'll tell ya.
More mindful of increased water intake. You know all the basic stuff, that we all had to do on IP. I think I just had to blow it out, but now realize, that's just old nasty habits trying to get a hold of me. Now I just have a huge neon marquis flashing "emotional eating, emotional eating" when I open the refrigerator and just start staring into it. It's a struggle and some days I win the war more than others. This is a total lifestyle awareness which does get tiring and free days can make one ill sometimes if we use it as a day of bingeing. I also, as someone had mentioned, made myself totally sick by eating like it was my last day on earth. Yuckiest feeling going. Thing is not to feel that desperation, but rather celebration on free days. It's such a head trip and really the way we look at things, isn't it.
Thanks everyone.

capricious
09-14-2011, 07:23 PM
my free day is every saturday as well... which makes for a pretty sad sunday.

anyone else find that the things you eat on your free days really don't taste that good? i've had 4 free days so far and i've had pizza, burritos, chocolate, ice cream and coconut wine. i honestly haven't cared for any of it. i find that anything with real sugar in it is waaaaay too sweet, and most "cheat" foods make me feel yucky for the rest of the day and bloated for all of sunday.

anyone else have trouble eating on regular maintenance days? i'm just never hungry anymore. i pretty much never eat my "carb" meal, and every now and then i have a "fat" meal, but really it's just a salad with avocado and a little bit of slivered almonds. oh, and a little cheese because i really like cheese, but i still use WF dressings. i think the worst i do on a normal day is eat low carb bread. i try to get in as much protein as possible, which usually means that i eat a bar or have a shake. don't get me wrong, i eat 3 meals every day, i'm just not really interested in eating them lately.
I do eat a bar as my snack still and I use the shake as creamer for my coffee- as I usually have a couple cups of coffee throughout the day. Some days have the carb in the evening some days not but definitely enjoy feta on my salads at lunch. It's a good thing I think that you're not really hungry on maintenance- you are eating enough for fuel for your body and not emotional eating which to me makes you a maintenance super hero! I do still have to fight with myself not to indulge sometimes mostly when I'm tired but I'm working on developing habits such as going to bed earlier because I know it makes a world of difference... Glad to hear that you're doing well with the maintenance plan though...

Thanks! Tomorrow is my first big "cheat" day -- then we go to Saturday's -- next Saturday, not this Saturday. I've been dreaming of this day for a long, long time! Thanks for the encouraging advice -- I've just got to trust that it will be okay. So far, it has all worked out. I've even lost a couple of pounds on P3 -- very strange. So P4 should be okay -- like you said. I'm pretty short, so a few pounds will really show up fast. :dizzy:
Happy Birthday to your DH- and I hope you're enjoying your first :hb: in forever!
Thanks all...I love this thread of all the one's I've been on since phasing out. I fell off the wagon and gained 7lbs, which I am slowly, and I mean slowly starting to lose, thanks to all of your imput, stories and tips.

Like woolberger, I'm back to IP breakfasts for a little while to get my day straight, and start burning with fast convenient breakfasts, just so I get rolling for the day.
Cut down on alcohol with the end of summer and "party" head I got into.My free days were turning into a blur...very quickly as old habits die hard.
Switched back my cheese intake to lunch instead of dinner...boy that does NOT work for me I'll tell ya.
More mindful of increased water intake. You know all the basic stuff, that we all had to do on IP. I think I just had to blow it out, but now realize, that's just old nasty habits trying to get a hold of me. Now I just have a huge neon marquis flashing "emotional eating, emotional eating" when I open the refrigerator and just start staring into it. It's a struggle and some days I win the war more than others. This is a total lifestyle awareness which does get tiring and free days can make one ill sometimes if we use it as a day of bingeing. I also, as someone had mentioned, made myself totally sick by eating like it was my last day on earth. Yuckiest feeling going. Thing is not to feel that desperation, but rather celebration on free days. It's such a head trip and really the way we look at things, isn't it.
Thanks everyone.
I felt so bad admitting to binge eating still... I really thought I was past it but you are right in that there is no need to feel so desperate to get it all in as next week will come around quickly but we are all working on building our skills that will enable us to continue along with this much healthier lifestyle and old habits and mindsets do die rather hard...
Thank you all for being here and sharing your stories and tips it is much appreciated...

capricious
09-16-2011, 03:43 PM
I made minestrone soup using a Club House for Slow Cookers seasoning pack last night. It has no meat in it- just kidney beans- and it was fairly tasty, super easy to make. Today is a free day as we will be attending my daughter's friend's birthday and I would like to be able to partake in the festivities.
Had a good week this week maintenance wise, I found that a good night's sleep makes all the difference in how hungry I am. Having days where I scale back also seems to work well... having black coffee rather than flavored/ vanilla shake creamer makes me enjoy an 'enriched' coffee all the more. The same seems to apply to food... Have a great weekend all...

Pxlkitty4
09-17-2011, 08:25 AM
Hello everyone. Having made goal officially yesterday, I find that I am in an emotional state that I do not understand. I moved to Phase 2 two days ago. The new meal at lunch is great... However, the idea that I don't need to lose more weight is completely foreign. I've been at least somewhat overweight since about 7th grade. I might have felt "ok" a few times in my life, but by "ok" it was more like "only 10 lbs to lose" or something like that.

I tried on some warm winterish clothes (jeans, long pants, etc.) yesterday because the weather turned much colder here. I had kept some things that I thought would probably fit. They are all ridiculously too big. So, I have a clothing crisis as well.

I will go through this whole thread later when I have some time. I think it's interesting how we need such different support at different stages of the journey. I feel like a newbie all over again.

Thanks to everyone on this thread who has shared along their journey. Linden, Capricious, Woolberger, and Longdivision -- I've read your advice about Phase 3 and really appreciate your talking about your struggles in maintenance too.

One thing I did notice while going through Phase 3 breakfast ideas yesterday. The one with eggs/bacon is way over the 10gms fat just for breakfast. I guess the trick is really not to overthink things. I was working on my own calculations for proposed breakfast ideas, and it was driving me crazy. I will post my document when I have it figured out a little more. I took the Phase 3 sheet, then added all the ideas that others had added in the Phase 3 thread, then split it into a US and Canadian version since the products are so different. Stay tuned for that.

I have to run -- swim lesson for kidlet soon and need to drink my coffee/eat my IP cereal before that.

sunnymae
09-17-2011, 11:49 AM
Anniversary flashbacks???
Think I just figured out why I'm re-experiencing (and acting out) so many of my worst, oldest, most negative feelings to date since phasing off last Feb. I'm now coming on to the season right before I started IP last Oct 24th. Maybe it's the same bottoming out feeling I had that last year right before the lightbulb went off and switched my head full on into getting on program. Combination of being at my heaviest mixed with shorter and colder days coming on.
I'm hoping to get that lightbulb switched back on and regain that state of mind once again so I can get back on track.
It's mind boggling how the evil foodyfattyWTF...just go for it little devils start getting louder than the logical, you can do this,voices of reason. Especially certain times of year.

If you've noticed any similar anniversary type of feelings, where there's a seasonal dip in mood, self esteem, willpower, etc...maybe that's something to be mindful of and prepare for in advance. I'm thinking about what I can do now and next year before the shorter days, and colder weather get a grip on me. Other anniversaries where there are bad memories and so on.

Thanks for letting me say all that. I hope it wasn't too self indulgent and that someone out there will benefit from my thoughts.I'm struggling today but I will keep comin' back.

Gonna throw on a sweater, grab a coffee to go and take a walk in Central Park.
Have a great weekend!

wildflower613
09-17-2011, 12:41 PM
Anniversary flashbacks???
Think I just figured out why I'm re-experiencing (and acting out) so many of my worst, oldest, most negative feelings to date since phasing off last Feb. I'm now coming on to the season right before I started IP last Oct 24th. Maybe it's the same bottoming out feeling I had that last year right before the lightbulb went off and switched my head full on into getting on program. Combination of being at my heaviest mixed with shorter and colder days coming on.
I'm hoping to get that lightbulb switched back on and regain that state of mind once again so I can get back on track.
It's mind boggling how the evil foodyfattyWTF...just go for it little devils start getting louder than the logical, you can do this,voices of reason. Especially certain times of year.

If you've noticed any similar anniversary type of feelings, where there's a seasonal dip in mood, self esteem, willpower, etc...maybe that's something to be mindful of and prepare for in advance. I'm thinking about what I can do now and next year before the shorter days, and colder weather get a grip on me. Other anniversaries where there are bad memories and so on.

Thanks for letting me say all that. I hope it wasn't too self indulgent and that someone out there will benefit from my thoughts.I'm struggling today but I will keep comin' back.

Gonna throw on a sweater, grab a coffee to go and take a walk in Central Park.
Have a great weekend!

I am with you 100%. Trying to adjust to the new season and the new season is making me hungry.

woolberger
09-17-2011, 01:31 PM
I made minestrone soup using a Club House for Slow Cookers seasoning pack last night. It has no meat in it- just kidney beans- and it was fairly tasty, super easy to make. Today is a free day as we will be attending my daughter's friend's birthday and I would like to be able to partake in the festivities.
Had a good week this week maintenance wise, I found that a good night's sleep makes all the difference in how hungry I am. Having days where I scale back also seems to work well... having black coffee rather than flavored/ vanilla shake creamer makes me enjoy an 'enriched' coffee all the more. The same seems to apply to food... Have a great weekend all...

Hey Cap...

Don't feel like you are the only one here! I read this thread everyday. I just don't always have anything to say but I love keeping up with all the IPers I have spent months talking to. You know how maintenance is. Even after 6 months I want to be able to say "I lost weight today". Somehow reporting in that I weigh the same doesn't seem as exciting. I, like you, always want to see a number that is below my goal weight of 130. I need to learn to be happy with myself as I am. I think a lot of us have that problem with our own self-image. I'm glad you come here to share your experiences. I'll continue to check in daily and try to contribute more.:hug:

Lynn

capricious
09-17-2011, 08:40 PM
Woolberger- thank you I was beginning to feel a little lonely and as though perhaps I had unwittingly offended the others on this thread. I know that maintenance is not as exciting as Phase 1 in that there are no losses to report but it bolsters me to hear what you ate for supper, lunch, what you have for snacks. What your mindset was today and if it was positive, negative and what helped you through it same old rigamarole as Phase 1 but in Phase 4. Cause sometimes it's those little things, the little reminders or the feeling that you're in sync with others that really helps to 'maintain' the groove you're in. Sometimes I miss seeing BrandAm & Brummie & LongDivision (although she still comes around every once in awhile)
I am glad that you and everyone else that continues to post on this thread are here! This thread is my mainstay as it is where I belong, it is where I am facing my challenges and it is where I would like to stay...
Sunnymae In Dr. Tran's book he states that the season that weight is most likely to come on is the fall. And certainly when we are emotional eating it is more likely to come on. When we take off the 'fat' coat we are faced with our real issues that we were trying to abate with food and those issues are hard to deal with. I hear you on that count. Your insights are much appreciated- I had a much better free day this time around with your advice ringing in my head... a big thanks to you as well...
Pxlkitty To borrow a line from MayaKat... Smile... You make me smile. An information guru! While I can identify with being an overweight adolescent and adult and not feeling entirely comfortable with putting a stop to losing weight now... it does get better. You do get more comfortable in your own skin and definitely more proud but it does become regular and regular can be equated with boring ;) Or just proud. Cause you should be, you look awesome and totally put in your fair share of time and effort. Enjoy it! Welcome onboard the maintenance crew!

woolberger
09-17-2011, 09:18 PM
Sunnymae- I started October 19th last year. It's amazing to think it has been almost a year. Kudos to us for making it so long!!

Cap- Really...what did I eat today? OK:)
Breakfast - Original House of Pancakes with Dad & Hubby- Scrambled egg whites with tomatoes, spinach and a little feta cheese.
Lunch - IP White Choco Cinnamon bar.
Snack - Piece of Apple-Rhubarb pie Hubby & I made last night:o (delicious!) (counts as a veggie!?)
Dinner - Chili Dog with whole wheat bun, 97% FF Hebrew National Hotdog, veggie chili & FF shredded cheese.
Not perfectly IP phase 4 but not bad.

Pxlkitty - Yay!!! Congratulations on getting to goal and :welcome3: to maintenance. Job well done! I hope you will check in here and help motivate us. Maybe you can come up with a maintenance challenge and spreadsheet. Anyone have any ideas? Perhaps we could tie it in with the holidays.

Pxlkitty4
09-17-2011, 10:48 PM
So, on my way to cooking club tonight I stopped by the thrift shop and got 5 pairs of pants because I have nothing that fits that is long... I have a clothing crisis at the moment.

They must have had a secret sale, because what I thought would be $35 was $14 total for 5 things. I went to cooking club, tried on my finds upstairs before others got there, and came down in my new Ralph Lauren SIZE 6 jeans... I am SO happy to have a pair of jeans that fits, that are comfortable, and that (come on...) size 6!

Whew. Now I have some clothes to wear on the weekend. I fixed my "work problem" last week, and even though I only have 4 outfits, at least I can tget through the week without repeating outfits more than once... (I work a little from home and/or travel enough so that the same people don't see me).

Woolberger - let me think about that one... a maintenance challenge. I like it!!

capricious
09-18-2011, 11:21 AM
Woolberger- I'm honestly laughing out loud at myself, but what can I say, i would never have thought of a maintenance friendly chili hot dog and now that I've heard it described I can hardly wait to give it a whirl...
Pxlkitty- Size 6??!! Ralph Lauren & others for $14??!! Congrats all around on that one! When I finally settled into a weight and bought clothes it was hard to accept the cost- because everything was needed. Bras, tops, pants, skirts, coats, underwear on and on and on and everything looks good- what a problem to have I know- but it doesn't make decision making any easier...
Yesterday was a Phase 1 day for me because Friday was my free day. I attended the birthday party of my daughter's little friend and indulged in pizza- it tasted like a bit of heaven in my mouth and ice cream cake which also tasted delicious but did not sit well. That's been a discovery; dairy + sugar= me not feeling good. Ice cream doesn't appear to be one of those things that I should indulge in ever. Following sunnymae's sage wisdom to treat my free day as one of celebration rather than desperation also helped because while I indulged in a bite of this or that, that I wouldn't normally, I stuck mostly to maintenance protocol other than supper and evening snack and felt so much better at the end because of it.

Maintenance Challenge Ideas?
1. amount of weekly exercise- then perhaps amping up to intensity?
2. following exactly maintenance protocol fat at lunch, carb at supper sticking within allotted carb/ fat/ calorie amounts
...

cajunladybug22
09-19-2011, 12:37 AM
I just want to say thank you to all of you for your knowledge and wealth of information (and for sharing it with all of us)!

Pxlkitty-congratulations on hitting your goal! I know I haven't posted a ton, but you've always been one to motivate me and keep me strong by hearing your victories and seeing how strong you always were.

I would love a maintenance challenge too!

Linden
09-19-2011, 04:51 AM
I just want to say thank you to all of you for your knowledge and wealth of information (and for sharing it with all of us)!

Pxlkitty-congratulations on hitting your goal! I know I haven't posted a ton, but you've always been one to motivate me and keep me strong by hearing your victories and seeing how strong you always were.

I would love a maintenance challenge too!

And congratulations to you, too.

cajunladybug22
09-19-2011, 02:54 PM
And congratulations to you, too.

Thanks! I appreciate it! ;)

Pxlkitty4
09-19-2011, 09:11 PM
Pxlkitty- Size 6??!! Ralph Lauren & others for $14??!! Congrats all around on that one! When I finally settled into a weight and bought clothes it was hard to accept the cost- because everything was needed. Bras, tops, pants, skirts, coats, underwear on and on and on and everything looks good- what a problem to have I know- but it doesn't make decision making any easier...

Maintenance Challenge Ideas?
1. amount of weekly exercise- then perhaps amping up to intensity?
2. following exactly maintenance protocol fat at lunch, carb at supper sticking within allotted carb/ fat/ calorie amounts
...

I am completely determined to keep my resolve of having a minimalist closet. I now own 4 bras that fit. That's all I need... I don't have enough business clothes to make it through the week without repeating outfits, but I am ok... I need to add a few more pieces that I love and then I should be set. I just did some eBay shopping so hopefully those will work out and my business wardrobe will be set.

As I travel now, I take my "too big panties" and throw them in the trash as I go. So, pretty soon I'll be down to the pairs that fit. That's probably about 8-10 total, and that's enough. But, yes, I've been forced to buy things... And frankly I'm sick of shopping.

As for trying things on, I try on everything now in real stores (with exception of thrift shop/ebay) and only buy things that I absolutely love. I know that everything looks good, but I rarely find things that I can't live without.. This is my reward for liking the way I look...

After some psychoanalysis, I think I used to buy things in the hopes that it would cheer me up, and I think it just made me more depressed and I really hated how I looked in everything. I had lots of clothes, but didn't really like anything.

With the thrift shop, I anticipate that 1-2 out of every 4 pieces will actually work. I got the Ralph Lauren jeans that are great, a grey pair of business pants that are really nice (forget the brand), and a pair of khaki J. Crew casual pants. For $14, the other two pairs of jeans can be donated if I decide that they don't work for me (I'm waiting on those...) So, that trip was definitely a success.

I did some careful measurements of some core wardrobe pieces, and made some eBay purchases... These are things like 100% wool grey skirt, 100% cashmere black sweater, wool/angora beige cardigan, Ralph Lauren black jeans in same style that I found at thrift store. I find that eBay is a good place to find timeless styles that would cost >$100 elsewhere.

I really like your idea re: the challenge. I was thinking that it should be linked to activity, log how well we do with "only one cheat day", and log any "lessons learned/what I want to do differently next week" reflections as part of the "was this week a success?" question. I will play with it in spreadsheet form and let you know what I come up with.


Pxlkitty-congratulations on hitting your goal! I know I haven't posted a ton, but you've always been one to motivate me and keep me strong by hearing your victories and seeing how strong you always were.

I would love a maintenance challenge too!

Aw, thanks! Congratulations to you too. What an amazing journey for us all.

Pxlkitty4
09-19-2011, 09:56 PM
Challenge is set up... Check out fatsecret dot com... Look for this challenge. "Ideal Protein maintenance challenge - Halloween 2011." This seems to be a better way for us to keep track of things like challenges once we are in maintenance and doing things other than logging weight loss. My screen name is the same over there.

Lone Loser
09-19-2011, 10:47 PM
This thread is amazing -- so glad you started this Woolberger. Phase 4 is scarey. I'm sticking to a P3 like breakfast, a p2 lunch with cottage cheese and a P1 dinner with a baked sweet potatoe.

I am going to begin eliminating items one by one until I figure out what is causing a bloat in my mid-section. I'm sticking pretty close to my goal weight -- so it's not like I've gained a bunch of weight, but my belly is all puffy. I'll start by eliminating bread, then the dairy -- then the fruit. Those are really the only things I can think of that are new. My coach said to wait for a few days between what I am leaving out.

Have any of you had problems transitioning from P1, P2 and on into P3 and P4?

Linden
09-20-2011, 03:53 AM
I am completely determined to keep my resolve of having a minimalist closet.

I think this is a truly good idea. When I moved from Hawai'i to Europe I (in January) I brought less than a suitcase full of clothes, basically because Hawai'i has one season (record low 56; record high 94; average 63/80 if I remember correctly) -- 6 skirts w/elastic waists that were easy to alter; about 10-12 tops, some long sleeved; and 3 sweaters plus one outfit to wear to the opera, etc. I never did buy the winter clothes I thought I would, except for warm tights, because I adopted the German way of layering. Very flexible and liberating if you plan mixing and matching well. The only downside is I actually love to shop, but that's what grandchildren are for, no?

wildflower613
09-20-2011, 09:09 AM
This thread is amazing -- so glad you started this Woolberger. Phase 4 is scarey. I'm sticking to a P3 like breakfast, a p2 lunch with cottage cheese and a P1 dinner with a baked sweet potatoe.

I am going to begin eliminating items one by one until I figure out what is causing a bloat in my mid-section. I'm sticking pretty close to my goal weight -- so it's not like I've gained a bunch of weight, but my belly is all puffy. I'll start by eliminating bread, then the dairy -- then the fruit. Those are really the only things I can think of that are new. My coach said to wait for a few days between what I am leaving out.

Have any of you had problems transitioning from P1, P2 and on into P3 and P4?

I'm not really a maintainer but I do seem to lurk here :o I just had to say I have the most awful bloat that you speak of! I could honestly pass for having a baby in there many days!! Mine is occurring in Ph1 and 2 however so wouldn't be the bread, dairy or fruit for me. It's so irritating. I would love to hear what you discover on this.

woolberger
09-20-2011, 10:16 AM
Hi everyone!

Sorry I've been MIA. I have been reading but have just been busy, busy, busy (aren't we all?). As most of you know, I am mostly a SAHD (stay at home daughter). My 89 y/o Dad lives here with us and needs a lot of help. He fell for the first time last week :(. My brother is flying in today to take Dad back to Illinois to see his friends before they all leave for warmer climates. Tons of planning with 3 sets of overlapping roundtrip tickets, oxygen on the airplane, wheelchairs, meds for 3 weeks, etc, etc... I'm sure others have been through this too.
Anyway, I've signed up for the Halloween Challenge. Thanks Pxlkitty for setting it up. I have a question. Will we actually log 1 day of food into the Fatsecret site or is it just for ourselves?
Cajun, Linden. Cap, wildflower & LoneLoser - So glad you guys are here. I think maintenance is hard because life gets in the way. It's great to have friends who understand.
Hope everyone has a great day. Wish me luck. Dad flies tomorrow.

Lynn

capricious
09-20-2011, 11:06 AM
Thank you Pxlkitty for setting up the challenge! My closet is definitely minimalist right now and frankly I'm getting bored. It's almost a good thing that the season is changing because I got to buy some fall/ winter items a couple days ago and it is spicing it up a bit for me. Finally bought a pair of leggings and long flowy top to go with them. I had always liked this look- on other people ;) Forced myself to wear it yesterday even though I was a tad anxious about it- change is scary- and was rewarded for being a bit brave with compliments :D
CajunLadyBug:congrat:- and a warm welcome to the maintenance crew!
Lone Loser- I've heard about there being some issues with midriff bloat after phasing off on the FaceBook IP page. LuckyChick and a couple others had chatted about it a bit. One thing that I've heard that can help with bloating is putting lemon in your water (and of course watching sodium intake). I find that I can be pretty puffy some mornings and have to be really careful what I eat in the evening but if all you're doing differently in the evening is adding a sweet potato I can't see that being the issue. The kind of bread you eat may be the culprit- could be a reaction to the wheat/ gluten. Maybe consider a switch to sprouted grain or rye? Rye doesn't really have many more carbs/ calories than the WW whole wheat but it will avert any wheat issues...
Woolberger Your father is a lucky man to have you as his daughter.

cajunladybug22
09-20-2011, 12:50 PM
Thanks for the welcome, everyone! Glad to be here. :) And I'm joining the challenge now...thanks so much for setting up, Pxlkitty!

Pxlkitty4
09-20-2011, 01:31 PM
I am in the process of allowing access to pending participants. I will make at least a few people admins... Not sure what to do with people who are finding the challenge through other means. Do we only allow IP people to do this?? I vote that we should limit it to people who are on IP, since there are things like "phase 1 day" that I really don't want to explain to others.

woolberger
09-20-2011, 01:55 PM
Cap,

Maybe you've answered this already but who are those two beautiful babies you are holding in your avatar?

Determinedat47
09-20-2011, 02:48 PM
This thread is amazing -- so glad you started this Woolberger. Phase 4 is scarey. I'm sticking to a P3 like breakfast, a p2 lunch with cottage cheese and a P1 dinner with a baked sweet potatoe.

I am going to begin eliminating items one by one until I figure out what is causing a bloat in my mid-section. I'm sticking pretty close to my goal weight -- so it's not like I've gained a bunch of weight, but my belly is all puffy. I'll start by eliminating bread, then the dairy -- then the fruit. Those are really the only things I can think of that are new. My coach said to wait for a few days between what I am leaving out.

Have any of you had problems transitioning from P1, P2 and on into P3 and P4?

I have been on phase 3 for 2 weeks-go to 4 tomorrow and I still feel bloated in the mornings after my breakfast for a couple of hours. When I first went to phase 3, I felt like a fat bloated pig all day for nearly a week. I lost 2 pounds the first week on phase 3. We'll see what weigh in tommorrow shows- I only weigh by my coach-never at home. Phase 4 sounds scarey. I so do not want to go through this ever again!:p

Pxlkitty4
09-20-2011, 03:12 PM
I have a question. Will we actually log 1 day of food into the Fatsecret site or is it just for ourselves?


I haven't done a challenge yet, so I guess we will figure it out. I downloaded the blackberry app and am logging my food, but I don't know that it will be required... I guess we'll all find out together!

Lone Loser
09-20-2011, 06:37 PM
I have been on phase 3 for 2 weeks-go to 4 tomorrow and I still feel bloated in the mornings after my breakfast for a couple of hours. When I first went to phase 3, I felt like a fat bloated pig all day for nearly a week. I lost 2 pounds the first week on phase 3. We'll see what weigh in tommorrow shows- I only weigh by my coach-never at home. Phase 4 sounds scarey. I so do not want to go through this ever again!:p

You have done very well with your weight loss!!!:D

I talked to my coach about that very thing last night -- Phase 4 scares the willies out of me. He said that Phase 4 scares him too -- and he's been on Phase 4 for about six months. He reassured me that if I feel like I'm getting out of control and gaining the weight back -- the best thing to do is go back to Phase 1 and follow the Phases through again. So I am keeping a weight in mind and if I go over that weight -- I'm going to do just what he said. That makes me feel a little bit better.

He also said they were thinking of getting a Phase 4 support group together once a month -- I thought, "well, this forum is my support group". I need reinforcement more than once a month!!!

Lone Loser
09-20-2011, 06:49 PM
Lone Loser- I've heard about there being some issues with midriff bloat after phasing off on the FaceBook IP page. LuckyChick and a couple others had chatted about it a bit. One thing that I've heard that can help with bloating is putting lemon in your water (and of course watching sodium intake). I find that I can be pretty puffy some mornings and have to be really careful what I eat in the evening but if all you're doing differently in the evening is adding a sweet potato I can't see that being the issue. The kind of bread you eat may be the culprit- could be a reaction to the wheat/ gluten. Maybe consider a switch to sprouted grain or rye? Rye doesn't really have many more carbs/ calories than the WW whole wheat but it will avert any wheat issues...
Woolberger Your father is a lucky man to have you as his daughter.

capricious -- I've thought about the gluten issue -- I'm eating sour dough -- well, was! I'll keep all of you posted. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise -- if I find out what the culprit is, then I will avoid it like a Phase 1 NO-NO!

Woolberger -- Yes, your father is very fortunate to have you for a daughter!

redheels
09-20-2011, 06:50 PM
Hi everyone I am new to this site and forum. I have really been researching diet and nutrition plans for quite awhile now and I have been very impressed with what I have read on Ideal Protein. My one concern that I have noticed from two people I have known who have been on IP is keeping the weight off. One gained it back so quickly and the other one is have anxiety issues with trying to eat "normal" again.....phase 4? Do you feel that on IP is is easier to gain weight back again? (Hope that it is alright to be posting in this forum...I thought I would ask those who have lots of experience:)

mdworks14
09-20-2011, 06:51 PM
Hey guys this is only my 2nd day on ideal protein, I am currently 146 pounds looking to get to 120 pounds. Although I am far from my goal, I was wondering if the weight stays off? And if so what do you eat during maintenance? Thanks so much!

Determinedat47
09-20-2011, 09:23 PM
You have done very well with your weight loss!!!:D

I talked to my coach about that very thing last night -- Phase 4 scares the willies out of me. He said that Phase 4 scares him too -- and he's been on Phase 4 for about six months. He reassured me that if I feel like I'm getting out of control and gaining the weight back -- the best thing to do is go back to Phase 1 and follow the Phases through again. So I am keeping a weight in mind and if I go over that weight -- I'm going to do just what he said. That makes me feel a little bit better.

He also said they were thinking of getting a Phase 4 support group together once a month -- I thought, "well, this forum is my support group". I need reinforcement more than once a month!!!

Thank you. The theory of going back on and going through the phases is a great one but I am a little scared of all of the options that we have in phase 4. Also afraid of going off plan and not mentally being able to "get back to it" you know how starting any diet or eating plan is-" I'll start tomorrow" and then you are 50 pounds heavier. I swear, that os Not happening to me. I was successful on weight watchers about 5 years ago- lost 30 pounds and was about 10 pounds from goal and I started making excuses for not going to meetings. And the options on WW are unlimited. Anyway, I gained back all 30 plus 10 and tried to do the WW program again but just could never really get back on track again. Here is to making it stick with lifestyle changes for forever!:dizzy:

Pxlkitty4
09-20-2011, 09:43 PM
Hi everyone I am new to this site and forum. I have really been researching diet and nutrition plans for quite awhile now and I have been very impressed with what I have read on Ideal Protein. My one concern that I have noticed from two people I have known who have been on IP is keeping the weight off. One gained it back so quickly and the other one is have anxiety issues with trying to eat "normal" again.....phase 4? Do you feel that on IP is is easier to gain weight back again? (Hope that it is alright to be posting in this forum...I thought I would ask those who have lots of experience:)

Hey guys this is only my 2nd day on ideal protein, I am currently 146 pounds looking to get to 120 pounds. Although I am far from my goal, I was wondering if the weight stays off? And if so what do you eat during maintenance? Thanks so much!

Check out more information on IP here... there are threads on the phases, etc. and this should answer a lot of your questions. http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/238801-ip-ultimate-list-recipes-faq-newbie-guide-other-important-threads.html

As for keeping the weight off, I think that is a very individual question. I've known people on EVERY diet that gain the weight back. It's a question of whether you fundamentally change your relationship with food. I personally can't speak for myself, because I'm not fully in maintenance yet. However, this diet has worked better than any other for me, and I BELIEVE that I have changed the way I think about food. I don't like being a victim to temptation. I feel in control now. The carb addiction is gone. That said, when I start eating starch and sugars again, I might well feel out of control. But, it's up to me to push through that and gain control back. Everyone is accountable to him/herself.

Determinedat47
09-20-2011, 10:07 PM
Check out more information on IP here... there are threads on the phases, etc. and this should answer a lot of your questions. http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/238801-ip-ultimate-list-recipes-faq-newbie-guide-other-important-threads.html

As for keeping the weight off, I think that is a very individual question. I've known people on EVERY diet that gain the weight back. It's a question of whether you fundamentally change your relationship with food. I personally can't speak for myself, because I'm not fully in maintenance yet. However, this diet has worked better than any other for me, and I BELIEVE that I have changed the way I think about food. I don't like being a victim to temptation. I feel in control now. The carb addiction is gone. That said, when I start eating starch and sugars again, I might well feel out of control. But, it's up to


me to push through that and gain control back. Everyone is accountable to
him/herself.

No kidding.

bigpassport
09-20-2011, 11:56 PM
Sorry I haven't contributed in the past week. I was doing great with maintenance, logging all food in every day on MFP really helped keep me on track. Last Wed I even hit my all time low (134.4!). Then when I was getting my 2 year old into his car seat, I pulled something in my back. I was able to work all day Wed, but Wed night I was in serious pain. On Thursday, I had to have DH come home from work to take me to Quick Care because I couldn't move (or not move for that matter) without being in excruciating pain. Needless to say, I wasn't going to be sauteeing up zucchini for dinner that night...or the next day. By Saturday, I was feeling better and we had our free day. On Sunday we had a family event to go to, so our free day became a free weekend. On Monday morning, I was up 7 lbs (!) from where I was the previous Wed. I did Phase 1 on Mon, and Tuesday morning I was down 3 lbs but still up 4 lbs from the previous Wed. So I did Phase 1 again today. I hope tomorrow I'm down just a little more, then I'll go back to my low-cal, low-carb Phase 4 diet.

I can see how easy it would be to get off track because of an injury, illness, emotional trauma, etc. Not only from the disruption of the routine, but eating to comfort yourself. It was hard to do Phase 1 on Monday after 4 days of not following the rules. I hope I can always be disciplined in the future. It is work to stay conscientious everyday.

By the way, I asked my coach to find out what the maximum suggested carb grams at lunch is, and the maximum suggested fat grams for dinner are. She said she emailed the company and got an unhelpful answer. I'm still waiting for details. I will post what I find out.

It's great to see this thread thriving. Thanks Lynn for staring it!

ETA: Wednesday morning weigh-in...135.2 (less than 1 lb over all time low). This program really is amazing!

woolberger
09-21-2011, 02:37 AM
Hi everyone I am new to this site and forum. I have really been researching diet and nutrition plans for quite awhile now and I have been very impressed with what I have read on Ideal Protein. My one concern that I have noticed from two people I have known who have been on IP is keeping the weight off. One gained it back so quickly and the other one is have anxiety issues with trying to eat "normal" again.....phase 4? Do you feel that on IP is is easier to gain weight back again? (Hope that it is alright to be posting in this forum...I thought I would ask those who have lots of experience:)

Hey guys this is only my 2nd day on ideal protein, I am currently 146 pounds looking to get to 120 pounds. Although I am far from my goal, I was wondering if the weight stays off? And if so what do you eat during maintenance? Thanks so much!

Hi Guys...Welcome to Ideal Protein. Check out the stickies that Pxlkitty recommended to learn more about what you can eat in each phase.

As far as keeping the weight off, it is something I have to work at everyday. We can never go back to eating the way we did before the diet or we will be overweight again. I keep myself focused by thinking about my food choices every day. If I forget about it, I might return to the bad habits of my past. It doesn't mean that I can never have a treat, it means that my new "normal" includes using restraint and following the phase 4 guidelines. It's working so far!! Good Luck to you both.

darbs7
09-21-2011, 06:06 AM
Well, back to the maintenance thread for me. My coach, my mom, my hubby, etc etc etc...said good enough....let's just maintain. So I went to phase 2 again today...

I was on maintenance for 3 months and then decided I wanted to lose 15 more pounds...after 4-5 pounds....I decided to try to love the new me instead of compare and despise....like I tend to.

Pxlkitty4
09-21-2011, 09:17 AM
Well, back to the maintenance thread for me. My coach, my mom, my hubby, etc etc etc...said good enough....let's just maintain. So I went to phase 2 again today...

I was on maintenance for 3 months and then decided I wanted to lose 15 more pounds...after 4-5 pounds....I decided to try to love the new me instead of compare and despise....like I tend to.

Welcome, Darbs. Sounds from your sizes that you are at an ideal body size... regardless of what the scale is saying.

woolberger
09-21-2011, 09:29 AM
Well, back to the maintenance thread for me. My coach, my mom, my hubby, etc etc etc...said good enough....let's just maintain. So I went to phase 2 again today...

I was on maintenance for 3 months and then decided I wanted to lose 15 more pounds...after 4-5 pounds....I decided to try to love the new me instead of compare and despise....like I tend to.

Congratulations Darbs. You have come so far. So glad you will be around with your reasonable, sane approach to life & food. Looking forward to sharing maintenance ideas & tips with you.:hug:

Lynn

woolberger
09-21-2011, 09:40 AM
I can see how easy it would be to get off track because of an injury, illness, emotional trauma, etc. Not only from the disruption of the routine, but eating to comfort yourself. It was hard to do Phase 1 on Monday after 4 days of not following the rules. I hope I can always be disciplined in the future. It is work to stay conscientious everyday.

By the way, I asked my coach to find out what the maximum suggested carb grams at lunch is, and the maximum suggested fat grams for dinner are. She said she emailed the company and got an unhelpful answer. I'm still waiting for details. I will post what I find out.

It's great to see this thread thriving. Thanks Lynn for staring it!

ETA: Wednesday morning weigh-in...135.2 (less than 1 lb over all time low). This program really is amazing!

Wow...I just read your edit! Good job following phase I. It really is exciting to see this protocol work so well.

I will be very interested to hear what your coach finds out about carb and fat counts at dinner & lunch. I've been wondering how much fat is too much at dinner.

How are you feeling? Has your injury resolved? We were all just posting yesterday about life getting in the way sometimes. Sending good thoughts your way. :hug:

Lynn

Pxlkitty4
09-21-2011, 09:44 AM
I started reserching the Phase 3 breakfasts and realized that the number of fat grams in the "big breakfast" that they recommend (with bacon and eggs) is over the 10gms they recommend for the whole day. Did anyone else notice this??

disgal
09-21-2011, 11:52 AM
Hi all!! Just checking in!! Looks like you're all doing well!! :hug:
Hey Pxlkitty...congrats on reaching Phase 2!!:carrot: You have done an awesome job!!! I just read your last post.....I thought we could have up to 15 grams of fat total at breakfast, no? That's what I've been doing anyway.;)

So maintenance is agreeing with both Hubby and myself!! LOVING the yummy satisfying breakfasts, and LOVING a little pasta at Dinner!!:D This has been such an incredible journey for me. Never, did I EVER think I would be 165 pounds again (last time was 20 years ago)!! Sometimes I do a "double take" in the mirror because I do not recognize myself!! LOL!!

I'm still trying to figure out what is so different about doing IP as opposed to other programs I've tried these past few years. On WW's I lasted about 1 month. I am NOT a counting points kind of person....too much work!! Loved Jenny Craig, but was never able to learn to eat correctly (their foods were so convenient) during the "phasing off" part (and I couldn't get down lower than 190 lbs)???
IP has been straight forward and easy to follow from the beginning, and along the way I have even learned to eat/like more veggies!! I have learned that "I CAN have my cake and eat it too" ..just not everyday like I was doing!! I have learned that MOST days I have to keep an eye on what I'm eating....and watch the carbs, so that one evening (usually Saturdays, I can enjoy something I've been longing for without the guilt)!! I am trying not to "overthink" everything. I don't measure...I eyeball....because that's reality, right ?? (this is MY reality anyway). I usually go up 2-5 lbs by Tuesday, and then it's off by Wednesday or Thursday ( I do Phase 1 for 1 or 2 days then back to maintenance).
This has been just a great plan!! LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT!! Best wishes!! Take care all you fabulous maintainers!!!!:hug:

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
09-21-2011, 12:21 PM
Well, back to the maintenance thread for me. My coach, my mom, my hubby, etc etc etc...said good enough....let's just maintain. So I went to phase 2 again today...

I was on maintenance for 3 months and then decided I wanted to lose 15 more pounds...after 4-5 pounds....I decided to try to love the new me instead of compare and despise....like I tend to.Darbs I am so happy for you, sounds like you are at your ideal spot. I am thinking that this might be the case with me too, as I am in phase 2 and am starting the add 5 lbs one week and (hopefully) lose 6 the next like I was in phase 1. It is hard to just say yep I am finished as I have my mindset at my goal and I don't want to stop until I get there. I am grateful for all of your advice and am glad you made it to the maintainers once more. :hug:

Hi all!! Just checking in!! Looks like you're all doing well!! :hug:
Hey Pxlkitty...congrats on reaching Phase 2!!:carrot: You have done an awesome job!!! I just read your last post.....I thought we could have up to 15 grams of fat total at breakfast, no? That's what I've been doing anyway.;)

So maintenance is agreeing with both Hubby and myself!! LOVING the yummy satisfying breakfasts, and LOVING a little pasta at Dinner!!:D This has been such an incredible journey for me. Never, did I EVER think I would be 165 pounds again (last time was 20 years ago)!! Sometimes I do a "double take" in the mirror because I do not recognize myself!! LOL!!

I'm still trying to figure out what is so different about doing IP as opposed to other programs I've tried these past few years. On WW's I lasted about 1 month. I am NOT a counting points kind of person....too much work!! Loved Jenny Craig, but was never able to learn to eat correctly (their foods were so convenient) during the "phasing off" part (and I couldn't get down lower than 190 lbs)???
IP has been straight forward and easy to follow from the beginning, and along the way I have even learned to eat/like more veggies!! I have learned that "I CAN have my cake and eat it too" ..just not everyday like I was doing!! I have learned that MOST days I have to keep an eye on what I'm eating....and watch the carbs, so that one evening (usually Saturdays, I can enjoy something I've been longing for without the guilt)!! I am trying not to "overthink" everything. I don't measure...I eyeball....because that's reality, right ?? (this is MY reality anyway). I usually go up 2-5 lbs by Tuesday, and then it's off by Wednesday or Thursday ( I do Phase 1 for 1 or 2 days then back to maintenance).
This has been just a great plan!! LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT!! Best wishes!! Take care all you fabulous maintainers!!!!:hug:That is so good to hear, congrats to you and your hubby. I am glad it is working out so well for you.

Determinedat47
09-21-2011, 05:36 PM
Well, back to the maintenance thread for me. My coach, my mom, my hubby, etc etc etc...said good enough....let's just maintain. So I went to phase 2 again today...

I was on maintenance for 3 months and then decided I wanted to lose 15 more pounds...after 4-5 pounds....I decided to try to love the new me instead of compare and despise....like I tend to.

Wow, you look marvelous! Good for you! I am on phase 4 now starting today. Yippee!

sunnymae
09-21-2011, 09:31 PM
I haven't done a challenge yet, so I guess we will figure it out. I downloaded the blackberry app and am logging my food, but I don't know that it will be required... I guess we'll all find out together!

I'm feeling super grounded putting in my daily intake and also very interested in the recommended calorie intake they give you for height, weight and age, plus the breakdown of food they show on the chart. I also had no idea how many calories you burn while you're resting and sleeping! It really adds up. So for me, I'll be loggin in my food intake, even though we're all doing this as part of IP maintenance.
I'm SOooo grateful to be a part of this challenge.
Since I gained almost 9 lbs back, I've included some weight loss in my challenge as well.
Just doing the logging since yesterday has already helped me loads.
Thanks everyone :)

Pxlkitty4
09-21-2011, 09:49 PM
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Hey Pxlkitty...congrats on reaching Phase 2!!:carrot: You have done an awesome job!!! I just read your last post.....I thought we could have up to 15 grams of fat total at breakfast, no? That's what I've been doing anyway.;)


I had googled phase 3 and found a PDF that was obviously very old. I checked the "phases" thread and it says 15gms per day. Thanks!! I feel much better about the breakfasts I was considering...

sunnymae
09-21-2011, 10:55 PM
Sunnymae- I started October 19th last year. It's amazing to think it has been almost a year. Kudos to us for making it so long!!

Cap- Really...what did I eat today? OK:)
Breakfast - Original House of Pancakes with Dad & Hubby- Scrambled egg whites with tomatoes, spinach and a little feta cheese.
Lunch - IP White Choco Cinnamon bar.
Snack - Piece of Apple-Rhubarb pie Hubby & I made last night:o (delicious!) (counts as a veggie!?)
Dinner - Chili Dog with whole wheat bun, 97% FF Hebrew National Hotdog, veggie chili & FF shredded cheese.
Not perfectly IP phase 4 but not bad.

Pxlkitty - Yay!!! Congratulations on getting to goal and :welcome3: to maintenance. Job well done! I hope you will check in here and help motivate us. Maybe you can come up with a maintenance challenge and spreadsheet. Anyone have any ideas? Perhaps we could tie it in with the holidays.

Thanks for chiming in Woolberger. Yeah..it's unbelievable it's coming on to a year that we started IP!As I get to the one year start mark I really want to be at my original goal weight. I think the anniversary time will always be a good one for me to check in and make the adjustments I need to make to reset myself if I need to. BTW...I need to!
I appreciate all of your posts so much. I also admire you for taking such good care of your Dad. It warms my heart. I took care of Pops until he was almost 95 and I would trade all the free time I have right now for just one more day with that sweet old guy. There are immeasurable gifts for the spirit and the heart when we take care of our old folks the way they took care of us. Bless your Heart and cherish every moment, the good and the challenging as well :)

woolberger
09-23-2011, 11:26 AM
Hi all...

Thanks for your kind thoughts. Dad made it without incident to Illinois. Everyone involved was great. I'm off to Branson, Missouri for a conference. Any suggestions for shows or restaurants?

Lynn

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
09-23-2011, 12:09 PM
Hi all...

Thanks for your kind thoughts. Dad made it without incident to Illinois. Everyone involved was great. I'm off to Branson, Missouri for a conference. Any suggestions for shows or restaurants?

Lynn Glad your dad made it, lucky you going to Branson, one of my places some day to go to.

woolberger
09-23-2011, 04:16 PM
Glad your dad made it, lucky you going to Branson, one of my places some day to go to.

I love your new avatar!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
09-23-2011, 11:22 PM
I love your new avatar!Thank you the first I was able to get all of us in a pictures.

brandam6
09-24-2011, 11:46 AM
Hi everyone! Sorry I have been MIA. There's been a lot going going on lately and I just have no time. But I wanted to pop in and report.

I have been maintaining my weight between 149 and 154. I will admit that I have not put a lot of effort most days into it. I have days where I eat what I want and can't seem to get enough, and other days, I don't eat enough because I am not hungry.

Here's where I am lacking...
I have not been tracking my food everyday like I planned. I need to track because I don't want to mindlessly eat anymore. I don't drink enough water. I have found myself dehydrated on a couple of occasions. I haven' been exercising like I had wanted.

I do think I make better food choices most days than I would have before. I still eat salads most days for lunch. I still study nutrition labels. I just need to track it. I have only been on maintenance for a month and a half, for me that it too soon to be left to my own devices, and I have been lucky so far.

I have got to go through my winter clothes. But I have been avoiding it because I know that I will have to get rid of some items that I really love. But they are just taking up space in my closet, I can't wear them.

Well have a great weekend everyone, I will get on here and check in more than I have been. I need this forum to keep me in check.

capricious
09-24-2011, 11:52 AM
As for keeping the weight off, I think that is a very individual question. I've known people on EVERY diet that gain the weight back. It's a question of whether you fundamentally change your relationship with food. I personally can't speak for myself, because I'm not fully in maintenance yet. However, this diet has worked better than any other for me, and I BELIEVE that I have changed the way I think about food. I don't like being a victim to temptation. I feel in control now. The carb addiction is gone. That said, when I start eating starch and sugars again, I might well feel out of control. But, it's up to me to push through that and gain control back. Everyone is accountable to him/herself.
So very well said Pxlkitty.
In response to those questioning maintaining after finishing the first 3 Phases... This diet & maintenance program works as well as you let it. Stick to Phase 4 protocol and you will maintain. Don't, and you will gain the weight back.

Thank you. The theory of going back on and going through the phases is a great one but I am a little scared of all of the options that we have in phase 4. Also afraid of going off plan and not mentally being able to "get back to it" you know how starting any diet or eating plan is-" I'll start tomorrow" and then you are 50 pounds heavier. I swear, that os Not happening to me. I was successful on weight watchers about 5 years ago- lost 30 pounds and was about 10 pounds from goal and I started making excuses for not going to meetings. And the options on WW are unlimited. Anyway, I gained back all 30 plus 10 and tried to do the WW program again but just could never really get back on track again. Here is to making it stick with lifestyle changes for forever!:dizzy:
Determined- you will maintain. The beauty of maintenance on this program is that it encourages you to have one day of absolute freedom on your food choices followed by a day of being on a strict, regimented diet (as IP Ph.1 is...). You retrain yourself to correct your misstep immediately rather than in five or ten pounds. You will also find out what works for you eating wise. I have to be careful of what and how much I eat- fight the bites! A bite of this or a bite of that it always seems innocuous, harmless and it is the most insidious downfall. Sticking to my meals and snack works for me- when I let myself graze I notice a change mentally in that I don't feel as in control of my food choices & on the scale it usually results in an extra pound. Welcome to maintenance and I hope that you will continue to post here often!

I can see how easy it would be to get off track because of an injury, illness, emotional trauma, etc. Not only from the disruption of the routine, but eating to comfort yourself. It was hard to do Phase 1 on Monday after 4 days of not following the rules. I hope I can always be disciplined in the future. It is work to stay conscientious everyday.

It's great to see this thread thriving. Thanks Lynn for staring it!

ETA: Wednesday morning weigh-in...135.2 (less than 1 lb over all time low). This program really is amazing!
It is easy to get off track but you have proven to yourself and all of us that it is completely possible to get right back on track afterward. Thank you for that! And I hope that you're feeling better!


IP has been straight forward and easy to follow from the beginning, and along the way I have even learned to eat/like more veggies!! I have learned that "I CAN have my cake and eat it too" ..just not everyday like I was doing!! I have learned that MOST days I have to keep an eye on what I'm eating....and watch the carbs, so that one evening (usually Saturdays, I can enjoy something I've been longing for without the guilt)!! I am trying not to "overthink" everything. I don't measure...I eyeball....because that's reality, right ?? (this is MY reality anyway). I usually go up 2-5 lbs by Tuesday, and then it's off by Wednesday or Thursday ( I do Phase 1 for 1 or 2 days then back to maintenance).
This has been just a great plan!! LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT!! Best wishes!! Take care all you fabulous maintainers!!!!:hug:
I love this post. Maintaining mentality at its best! Thanks for sharing disgal...

capricious
09-24-2011, 12:13 PM
Woolberger- happy to hear that you got your dad off okay- how was your trip?
The babies in my avatar are sister's identical twin girls that she had at the beginning of August! There is nothing like the feeling of holding two little babies at once- I loved it!

Well... I haven't been on here in a couple of days, just found myself running around until it was time for bed. I've been making a concerted effort to go to bed earlier and it has been really helping with my mental agility and fatigue hunger but it doesn't leave me with any 'free time' in the evening. Will be able to be on more during the day this week thank goodness, I really miss being on here!
Pxlkitty- The challenge officially starts tomorrow, correct? This is what it was telling me when I was on there... so I hope I got it right...
LoneLoser- A meeting once a month for those in Phase 4??!!?? So glad we have this forum- definitely a big thanks to woolberger for starting it and to all of you for participating in it! I can't tell you how invaluable I think support is in any part of life; no matter what it is, it's always easier when there is someone else going through it with you. And to here about everyone's challenges and victories in the maintenance phase has been so helpful...

Pxlkitty4
09-24-2011, 01:17 PM
Has anyone tried these from New Lifestyle Diet? Chocolate Ready To Go Shakes. They look more convenient than the IP RTD because they have a screwtop lid and you add water... This looks like a great option for traveling.

Pxlkitty- The challenge officially starts tomorrow, correct? This is what it was telling me when I was on there... so I hope I got it right...


It starts Monday.

capricious
09-24-2011, 08:16 PM
Laughing a bit at myself right now- I keep thinking tomorrow is Monday rather than Sunday, I don't know why I would want to cut my weekend short...
Thanks Pxlkitty...

disgal
09-25-2011, 05:20 AM
Has anyone tried these from New Lifestyle Diet? Chocolate Ready To Go Shakes. They look more convenient than the IP RTD because they have a screwtop lid and you add water... This looks like a great option for traveling.

I haven't tried the "just add water" shakes, but wanted you to know that I have been purchasing the RTD shakes from New Lifestyle (they are made by the same manufacturer as the IP version...according to new Lifestyle) for a few months now.:D

Pxlkitty4
09-25-2011, 08:07 AM
I felt like crap all day yesterday. I missed my vitamins on Friday night and wasn't sure if that might have had something to do with it. I also didn't sleep well. Anyway, this morning I was scared that I had gained weight. Stepped on the scale and weighed 145.5 with my nightgown on. Weird given that I feel I've been stuffing myself with food the past few days. I know I should stay off the scale...

I haven't tried the "just add water" shakes, but wanted you to know that I have been purchasing the RTD shakes from New Lifestyle (they are made by the same manufacturer as the IP version...according to new Lifestyle) for a few months now.:D

Good to know, thanks! Which flavors have you tried?? I really like the IP RTD chocolate...

Lone Loser
09-25-2011, 09:00 AM
Do you think the free/cheat day is worth it? I feel yucky and I don't think I like P1 the day after. It is supposed to be mandatory and I've only had the cheat day twice now.

Pxlkitty4
09-25-2011, 09:06 AM
Do you think the free/cheat day is worth it? I feel yucky and I don't think I like P1 the day after. It is supposed to be mandatory and I've only had the cheat day twice now.

I've been tracking my food on Phase 3, and I realize that we are still eating a fairly low number of calories. Even phase 4 doesn't look like it will be back to
normal.

My guess for the cheat day is that it's mandatory to give us one day with higher calories so that our metabolism doesn't slow down (just my guess). Maybe it's possible to have a "cheat day" without going totally overboard. Or make the cheat day more about avocado/salad dressing than full-on carby junk???

disgal
09-25-2011, 10:13 AM
Good to know, thanks! Which flavors have you tried?? I really like the IP RTD chocolate...

On IP I had only liked the RTD "Choc" shakes ... so that's all I've tried at NLD.;)Do you think the free/cheat day is worth it? I feel yucky and I don't think I like P1 the day after. It is supposed to be mandatory and I've only had the cheat day twice now.

I've been tracking my food on Phase 3, and I realize that we are still eating a fairly low number of calories. Even phase 4 doesn't look like it will be back to
normal.

My guess for the cheat day is that it's mandatory to give us one day with higher calories so that our metabolism doesn't slow down (just my guess). Maybe it's possible to have a "cheat day" without going totally overboard. Or make the cheat day more about avocado/salad dressing than full-on carby junk???

After having a few "treat" days (usually a Saturday or Sunday) over the past month this has been my experience...
The first couple of cheats we went all out....White Russians, appetizers, pizza, ice cream (can't remember what else). Anyway, we felt OK the next day, and went right back onto Phase 1 for a couple of days. Each weekend we have been enjoying our "treat" day, and then the next day we faithfully go back to Phase 1 for a couple days (or just watch our carbs). MY experience has been that it takes until Thursday or Friday before I'm back to my starting weight. I weigh myself each morning and mark it on a calendar so I can keep track of how it's going. Hubby has had the same experience with his weight. Yesterday we were disussing how frustrating it is that it takes almost an entire week to take the weight off, and wouldn't it be nice to only gain a pound or two (as opposed to 3-5) over the weekend, and then take it off by say Tuesday!! Today is Hubby's Bday, and we'll be heading to our BFF's house for football and to celebrate! They will be making a deadly chocolate dessert for him (and we knew they were going to), plus there will be a meal and alcohol!! We both decided that today we will NOT go overboard. I know they're serving meatballs, so we'll be having meatballs and no bread. We will partake in the Birthday cake (actually it's Choc truffle....ugh), but plan on only having a little. As for the drinks, usually we have White Russians, but to cut down on calories/carbs we'll do 100 cal Margaritas instead. We're hoping tomorrow morning will be a positive experience on the scale!! LOL!!

As frustrating as it may seem to have to "eat better" all week, it is certainly well worth it to see the numbers on the scale not keep going up and up and up!! As a matter of fact, I weighed 164 yesterday morning...one pound less than my goal weight....go figure!! :smug:

If you ask any skinny person how they stay so thin, I think they will tell you...."if I gain weight, I watch what I eat until the extra pounds come off". This is exactly what IP is teaching us. Have a treat, but watch what you're eating until it comes off. I know I've said it a dozen times....but IP has changed my life....absolutely amazing..... Best wishes!!:hug:

patns
09-25-2011, 11:04 AM
Hi, I'm following this although I am not near maintenance yet because with any other plan I've regained instantly. So I am already planning ahead.
As I am older and will be smaller than most IPers I'm wondering if anyone does a cheat meal instead of a cheat day.
Like Disgirl mentioned, I wouldn't want to spend the whole week trying to get back to the precheat weight.

wildflower613
09-25-2011, 11:13 AM
Hey maintainers, I always read your thread to prepare myself for when I get there as well. Would you do this? / how would you handle this? I have two important events I am trying to decide how to do this for cheat days. I will be in Maintenance by this time.

Saturday, November 19th, My daughter's first birthday party.
Thursday, November 24th, Thanksgiving and my birthday

Have you ever spaced your cheat days less than a full week apart? I appreciate your expertise thank you so much!

wildflower613
09-25-2011, 11:34 AM
Do you think the free/cheat day is worth it? I feel yucky and I don't think I like P1 the day after. It is supposed to be mandatory and I've only had the cheat day twice now.

I was under the impression that one of the main reasons according to Ideal Protein is to keep you on track. A lot of us have a much better time staying on track for 6 days knowing we can have that. I know that will help me.
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Also, this was part of a topic on Dr. Oz. a week or so ago which I found very interesting. They were recommending the same thing. I'm not sure that Dr. Oz was on board with the creator 100% but here are his (Tim Ferriss) reasons:

1. Pigging out once a week improves for example thyroid output, very important for women and mothers
2. Pigging out makes the diet sustainable, people donít have to give up their comfort foods indefinitely and that allows people to be strict 6 days a week.

There was a little more to his method about grapefruit juice and squats etc etc but I thought I would share this portion.

woolberger
09-25-2011, 03:05 PM
Good Afternoon Everyone,

I am still in Branson and fly home tomorrow.

I'm really looking forward to the challenge. I generally follow the phase 4 guidelines but have never really done it perfectly. I'm pretty sure I will have to start my challenge with a few phase I days. I have really tried to be good here but it is amazing what comes when you order a chicken salad with dressing on the side. I have to say that I was not as specific with the server as I was on phase I but really; avocado, tortilla strips, cheese and it was gigantic!
Loneloser-I've never been good at Cheat days either. I'm more of a tracker and weigher. If my scale goes over a certain number, I go back to phase I/II for a few days.
Disgal-I love reading your posts! You are your DH are quite inspirational. I've been trying to talk my hubby into eating like me but he is not now and never has been overweight. It's a tough sell.
Determinedat47-Congratulations on getting to phase 4! Hope you will stick around and share your experiences with us.
Sunnymae-We lost togetther and now we can maintain together. We can do this!
Brandam-I missed you! Glad you will be checking in with us. We are starting a maintenance challenge tomorrow if you would like to join us!
Cap-Your nieces are gorgeous! I don't think I have ever held two babies like that. I do routinely hold 2 chihuahuas:).
Pxlkitty-I have ordered the RTD's from Lifestyles but haven't seen the RTG before. Looks interesting. Let us know if they are good.

So for the challenge: Should we be checking in with each other here on this thread or should we be communicating on the fatsecret site?

Hope everyone had a great weekend.

woolberger
09-25-2011, 04:27 PM
Hey maintainers, I always read your thread to prepare myself for when I get there as well. Would you do this? / how would you handle this? I have two important events I am trying to decide how to do this for cheat days. I will be in Maintenance by this time.

Saturday, November 19th, My daughter's first birthday party.
Thursday, November 24th, Thanksgiving and my birthday

Have you ever spaced your cheat days less than a full week apart? I appreciate your expertise thank you so much!

I think if you do a phase I day after each of these celebrations (so the 20th & the 25th) you will be fine. You can schedule your cheat days to coincide with an event. They don't have to be the same day every week.

Pxlkitty4
09-25-2011, 05:19 PM
So for the challenge: Should we be checking in with each other here on this thread or should we be communicating on the fatsecret site?


Let's do whatever works for folks... I haven't spent much time on the other site, but the challenges look like they are more structured over there. I also like that it sets up a "group" so that everyone can chat together who is doing it. But, that said, feel free to post here too. This thread seems pretty active lately.

disgal
09-25-2011, 06:03 PM
I don't think I have ever held two babies like that. I do routinely hold 2 chihuahuas:).
Bwahahaha!!! Thank you for making me laugh!! That was cute and funny!!!I think if you do a phase I day after each of these celebrations (so the 20th & the 25th) you will be fine. You can schedule your cheat days to coincide with an event. They don't have to be the same day every week.
I agree 100% totally!!!:carrot:[/FONT]Let's do whatever works for folks... I haven't spent much time on the other site, but the challenges look like they are more structured over there. I also like that it sets up a "group" so that everyone can chat together who is doing it. But, that said, feel free to post here too. This thread seems pretty active lately.
You probably won't see me on the other thread....but good luck to all... I will be reading about all your accomplishments!!!:hug:

Lone Loser
09-25-2011, 06:11 PM
I've been tracking my food on Phase 3, and I realize that we are still eating a fairly low number of calories. Even phase 4 doesn't look like it will be back to
normal.

My guess for the cheat day is that it's mandatory to give us one day with higher calories so that our metabolism doesn't slow down (just my guess). Maybe it's possible to have a "cheat day" without going totally overboard. Or make the cheat day more about avocado/salad dressing than full-on carby junk???

Thanks! This is exactly what I have been thinking -- just have a "cheat day" or a "cheat Meal" that is still healthy, but not junky. I think your guess that we need to keep our metabolism going is spot on.

I was dealing with bloat in P4 and found that by cutting out yogurt and bread at breakfast, I am doing a lot better. It took about three days to get my midsection back to where it didn't look like an over-inflated innertube. I am finding that by sticking to whole foods during the normal P4 week, my body processes things a lot better and more efficiently.

Everybody needs to find their P4 rhythm -- mine will apparently be more restrictive than for other people. DH can eat a lot more than I can -- I'll have to just accept it.

Don't get me wrong -- not trying to be negative -- I'm just trying to find out where my balance is. It helps to get feedback from all of you! We've all worked so hard to get to our goal weight and then P4 takes some adjustment too -- maybe that is why there doesn't seem to be any hard and fast rules (except for keeping fat and complex carbohydrates separate).

Tomorrow I go to see my coach and get my before and after pictures -- that ought to be very interesting! This will be my two week checkup aftering going to P4.

I hope you all have a great week!

baldchocnsexy
09-25-2011, 08:04 PM
I will join you guys in the Maintenance Phase in 9 lbs. I am curious as to how many of the "Maintainers" have made weight-training, cardio, and whole foods a part of your daily life. ;)

woolberger
09-25-2011, 08:15 PM
I will join you guys in the Maintenance Phase in 9 lbs. I am curious as to how many of the "Maintainers" have made weight-training, cardio, and whole foods a part of your daily life. ;)

This is a great subject. I posted earlier in this thread about lifestyle changes I have made. I take pilates classes 3-4 times/week but I probably don't get enough cardio in. I eat a much larger percentage of whole foods now but I still use processed food occasionally. I refuse to drink my calories unless I get a buzz;).

What lifestyle changes do you see yourself making?

baldchocnsexy
09-25-2011, 08:30 PM
This is a great subject. I posted earlier in this thread about lifestyle changes I have made. I take pilates classes 3-4 times/week but I probably don't get enough cardio in. I eat a much larger percentage of whole foods now but I still use processed food occasionally. I refuse to drink my calories unless I get a buzz;).

What lifestyle changes do you see yourself making?

I began IP by entering (religiously!) my supplements and all foods in the provided journal. Unfortunately it did not really allow me to track my carbs, protein,fats, exercising, etc. I like numbers. i see MFP (My Fitness Pal) being a constant in my life. As soon as I can I will be re-starting my weight-training and cardio workouts; at least three days--if not four--per week. Yes, I will return to whole foods, and will weigh myself at least once a week. I avoided weighing myself before despite owing three scales!

My wife would love this: In addition, we will both continue to work out together, and it's time to enroll in a ballroom dancing class! :D

capricious
09-25-2011, 11:35 PM
Good evening all...
Well I had my cheat day on Friday. Which I decided would only be a cheat meal rather than my usual free for all day in an effort to not 'go crazy' with it. Chose the butter chicken- since it's a dish I love but is such a no no with the mix of fat & carbs... couldn't even eat that much of it... but then because I was out on a date with my husband (our first in awhile as it is sometimes hard to get a babysitter when you live out in the country) partook in a few chocolate martinis and a couple of drinks... thought I had done okay- not great but okay... did my phase 1 day the next day and stepped on the scale today and was still up 2-4.5 pounds over where I normally am. Bah. I have never stepped on the scale in the two days following up the cheat day because I simply don't like bringing myself down. I know that if I follow up my cheat day with one day to two days of Phase 1- depending on how 'bad' the cheat day was- that I will be very close to my normal by the third day. And I can't help feeling like I should have just waited to step on the scale until tomorrow. Because it threw my day off big time today to see such a big number. We'll see what the scale says tomorrow- hopefully it will be friendlier after a couple days of Phase 1 and it is the first day of the challenge... So, I hear you disgal it is somewhat disgruntling to spend half the week losing what you gained in one day (or evening as the case may be) but I don't mind Phase 1 that much and I love my cheat day it gives me something to look forward to all week. When I was doing Phase 1 the day that I looked forward to was weigh in day; the day when all my hard work would be rewarded. I think the cheat day has replaced that day and as long as I weigh what I would like to weigh the day my cheat day comes around I will still be partaking in it, but perhaps avoiding the scale for a couple days afterward as I don't like feeling guilty and doing something about it. As long as I'm doing my Phase 1 following up the cheat I think that's enough of a penance for the cheat day :D And I would way rather spend a couple of days losing a couple of pounds than spend months losing many pounds...
Can't remember if I've already contributed this but I read that in maintenance there are two ways of going off track. One is having an all day blow out and then continuing along the same path you were on (which is really what IP is) and the other is a slower less noticeable having a bit of this and a bit of that and then more and then more which is supposed to be much more difficult to overcome. I could see this being the track I would go on if I didn't have that once a week blow out. It is difficult to be ever vigilant and needing to take off a couple of pounds every week keeps me vigilant by default. Just my thoughts... this is of course a personal process and what works for one may not for another... and I really do dislike being a few pounds heavier, I know it isn't much but I really don't like it...
I do try to eat only whole foods and to exercise (hopefully the challenge will get me a bit more regular with it though ;))...
Okay, I think my novella is finished, sorry...

bigpassport
09-26-2011, 12:30 AM
Do you think the free/cheat day is worth it? I feel yucky and I don't think I like P1 the day after. It is supposed to be mandatory and I've only had the cheat day twice now.

The Phase 4 sheet says the cheat day is mandatory. I'm not 100% sure if the purpose is psychological or metabolic or both. I know Tim Feriss (4 Hour Body) and Bill Phillips (Body For Life) both advocate a free day. In the few weeks I've been on Phase 4, I've gorged myself on my free day and I've eaten more moderately on my free day. For me the cheat days are important, they help me stay on track during the week. If, during the week, I have the desire to have a specific food, I know I can have it on my free day and that keeps me from cheating throughout the week. Now that I've done it, I don't think gorging on my free day works for me. I don't think it's a healthy relationship with food. I feel better if I plan the treats I want to have on my free day and enjoy them without guilt and with the confidence that the extra pounds will come off in a day or two. Is it worth it? For me, a somewhat planned free day in which I can enjoy treats is totally worth it. Is it mandatory? The rules say it is. But it's not mandatory to gorge yourself. I think the Phase 4 rules are designed in part to teach us over-eaters to have a healthy relationship with food.

ETA: Capricious, we must have been typing at the same time. Interesting that we've come to very similar conclusions about the free day!

capricious
09-26-2011, 04:15 PM
The Phase 4 sheet says the cheat day is mandatory. I'm not 100% sure if the purpose is psychological or metabolic or both. I know Tim Feriss (4 Hour Body) and Bill Phillips (Body For Life) both advocate a free day. In the few weeks I've been on Phase 4, I've gorged myself on my free day and I've eaten more moderately on my free day. For me the cheat days are important, they help me stay on track during the week. If, during the week, I have the desire to have a specific food, I know I can have it on my free day and that keeps me from cheating throughout the week. Now that I've done it, I don't think gorging on my free day works for me. I don't think it's a healthy relationship with food. I feel better if I plan the treats I want to have on my free day and enjoy them without guilt and with the confidence that the extra pounds will come off in a day or two. Is it worth it? For me, a somewhat planned free day in which I can enjoy treats is totally worth it. Is it mandatory? The rules say it is. But it's not mandatory to gorge yourself. I think the Phase 4 rules are designed in part to teach us over-eaters to have a healthy relationship with food.

ETA: Capricious, we must have been typing at the same time. Interesting that we've come to very similar conclusions about the free day!
Hey Lee,
Yup we were typing at the same time cause I didn't even see your post until this morning. I think you summed it up nicely and I am in agreement- I especially liked the line about Phase 4 teaching us over eaters to have a healthy relationship with food. To learn how to indulge without jumping on a runaway freight train- and I really like your idea of planning what treats to have on your cheat day- it's a great way to maintain control while indulging...
My weight this morning was down 1.5 from yesterday- still a couple pounds heavier than I like being but within my 'normal' range for the 2 day after cheat WI.
As part of the maintenance challenge I tried my new Jillian Michaels DVD. i have to say I really enjoyed it. It's a very quick 30 minute workout that you definitely feel but it's not too much and it incorporates strength, abs & cardio- gotta love one stop shopping!

JudoGirl
09-26-2011, 05:18 PM
Well, back to the maintenance thread for me. My coach, my mom, my hubby, etc etc etc...said good enough....let's just maintain. So I went to phase 2 again today...

I was on maintenance for 3 months and then decided I wanted to lose 15 more pounds...after 4-5 pounds....I decided to try to love the new me instead of compare and despise....like I tend to.

Darbs you are and have always been the bomb...you go girl....
love you because your worth it...:hug:

:cheer::goodscale:crazy::ebike::bike2:
:boxing::exercise::swim::trampo:
:belly::yoga::wl::barbell::running:

disgal
09-26-2011, 06:21 PM
LOVE, LOVE LOVE all the wonderful insight on this thread!!! :carrot: You are all absolutely AMAZING!!! :hug: WE ARE WINNING THIS FIGHT!!!!:D

sunnymae
09-26-2011, 07:15 PM
Hey Fellow Maintainers :)
Just chiming in on this monday, the start of the halloween challenge. I was not near a scale this morning and have just walked in the door to my apt, so I can now get online and post stuff on fatsecret.
I'll weigh in and start posting over there. See ya!!

capricious
09-27-2011, 01:41 AM
LOVE, LOVE LOVE all the wonderful insight on this thread!!! :carrot: You are all absolutely AMAZING!!! :hug: WE ARE WINNING THIS FIGHT!!!!:D
Loving your attitude disgal! How did the somewhat restrained cheat day go???

Sunnymae- what is your screen name for the challenge?

capricious
09-27-2011, 02:06 AM
Please disregard my prior question sunnymae- having looked again at the challenge I can see that you've got the same screen name over there!

disgal
09-27-2011, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by Capricious......Loving your attitude disgal! How did the somewhat restrained cheat day go???


Hey there!!! I figured I'd wait another day to get a true weight!! LOL!!! Yesterday I had only gained 1 pound, and went right back to Phase 1. Usually it takes a couple days to get a true reading. So today, I am up an additional 2.5 over yesterday, for a total of 3.5 up!! Ugh!!
We had such a great time Sunday, minus the Pat's losing that is...LOL!! The appetizer they served were buffalo chicken meatballs stuffed with bleu cheese (bought at BJ's wholesale club- didn't even think to look at nutrition....but I'm sure it was BAAAAAD)! Can you say YUM?? Then the actual meal was meatball grinders. I didn't have any bread, and probably only had a few due to the fact that I enjoyed the appetizer!! I had a few Margaritas....again...YUM!!! I even had some of the "Truffle" dessert. It was good, and my friend is so sweet and tries to make meals as healthy as possible. She's always trying to substitute healthy options (like applesauce instead of oil), etc. I am not a fan of "tons" of chocolate, so just a little bowl was fine for me. My downfall......there were bags of chips on their Island, one of which was a bag of cheese curls. It was a generic brand, but I really LOVE cheese curls, and wanted to see if they tasted as good as they used to. Well, I poured some into a 16 oz cup...don't know what I was thinking!! Did I even taste them??? Why did I have to put some in a cup? A handful would have been sufficient! Oh well, it was a "treat" day, and I was SO CLOSE to having a pretty good day!! Now I will continue to be "watching" what I'm eating the rest of this week. I'm hoping by Thursday to be down those 3.5 lbs!! Just in time for NEXT weekend!! ;):carrot:

Have a great Tuesday all!!

woolberger
09-27-2011, 08:29 PM
I'm back from my mini-vacation and I am down 1 lb! Yay!! So I am sticking with phase 4 for now and will see how it goes.

Just learned I am going to have to have a heart procedure on Monday :(. I won't be able to exercise for a week. Can I get a pass on exercise in our challenge next week? I'm going to be in the hospital overnight so I guess I'll have to count the hospital food as a cheat day? So unfair!!

How's everybody doing with the challenge? I'm still learning to navigate the Fatsecret forum so if I haven't acknowledged someone's success, sorry. I can see where people are posting weigh-ins, exercise and food. Good work.

Lone Loser
09-27-2011, 08:40 PM
I began IP by entering (religiously!) my supplements and all foods in the provided journal. Unfortunately it did not really allow me to track my carbs, protein,fats, exercising, etc. I like numbers. i see MFP (My Fitness Pal) being a constant in my life. As soon as I can I will be re-starting my weight-training and cardio workouts; at least three days--if not four--per week. Yes, I will return to whole foods, and will weigh myself at least once a week. I avoided weighing myself before despite owing three scales!

My wife would love this: In addition, we will both continue to work out together, and it's time to enroll in a ballroom dancing class! :D

My husband and I enrolled in a ballroom dance class through our community ed a few years ago -- we had a blast! Thanks for the reminder! It would be interesting to see if we do better now that we have lost all of the weight!

And I do think whole foods are the best! You are almost at goal! Great job!

bigpassport
09-27-2011, 10:40 PM
I mentioned before that asked my coach the approximate maximum of carb grams at lunch and fat grams at dinner we should strive for in Phase 4. I finally got a response. Here is the verbatim response she got from her supervisor:

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As far as # of fat and carb grams, there are too many variables to give a specific number. Too many differentials such as activity level and age. It is recommended that you see dieter every 2 weeks in phase 4 to make any changes or adjustments that you may see fit. Hope this helps.

I am attaching menu ideas for phase 4. Rules to follow in Phase 4: separate carbs from fats.ie: pasta with alfredo sauce. Not to return to prior "bad eating habits," as consumption of too much alcohol alot of cheeses, etc. 1800 calories a day or more, and of course one good cheat day.
Variables are of course per person. Sedentary, active as your dieter is,
THE DIETER WILL ONLY BE EATING CARBS FOR BREAKFAST (IF THEY WANT..THEY DON'T HAVE TO) AND FOR THE EVENING MEAL. LUNCH WILL BE LIKE THEY ATE ON PHASE 2. IF THEY HAVE BREAD,OR BAKED POTATO, OR PASTA FOR DINNER WITH VEY LITTLE FAT, THEY WON'T MAKE A LOT OF INSULIN AND HENCE WON'T STORE THE CARBS AS FAT. THEY DO THIS 5 DAYS A WEEK ON PHASE 4.
oNE DAY A WEK IS THE "CHEAT DAY",,,,THEY CAN HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT...HAVE FUN..PIZZA AND BEER IS OK FOR EXAMPLE. NEXT DAY IS A STRICT PHASEONE DAY; with or without ip foods. so braskfast can be eggs, lean ham but no toast, lunch; LIKE PHASE 2, DINNER: LIKE PHASES 1 AND 2 AND A SNACK AT BEDTIME 9an ip pudding is perfect..or lowfat cottage cheese, rinsed with water with a little stevia, whipped cream and cinnamon). attached is a pjhase 3 doc for ideas for breakfasts on phase 4...remeber, they do not have to eat like this every day..if they just want an ip shake, that's fine.
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I asked what she thought they meant in reference to 1800 calories per day (i.e. stay under? shoot for? don't go under?). She said, "I think it means to keep it at around 1800 that is about what the body is used to burning when you were on the diet."

I'm having technical difficulties attaching the Phase IV sheet she attached. I will try to edit this post to attach it later.

bigpassport
09-27-2011, 10:47 PM
I'm back from my mini-vacation and I am down 1 lb! Yay!! So I am sticking with phase 4 for now and will see how it goes.

Just learned I am going to have to have a heart procedure on Monday :(. I won't be able to exercise for a week. Can I get a pass on exercise in our challenge next week? I'm going to be in the hospital overnight so I guess I'll have to count the hospital food as a cheat day? So unfair!!

How's everybody doing with the challenge? I'm still learning to navigate the Fatsecret forum so if I haven't acknowledged someone's success, sorry. I can see where people are posting weigh-ins, exercise and food. Good work.

Yikes! I hope it's nothing serious! I'll be sending prayers your way for an uncomplicated procedure.

I'm also new to fatsecret and short on time this week, so I apologize in advance if I don't keep up.

capricious
09-28-2011, 12:07 AM
Oh well, it was a "treat" day, and I was SO CLOSE to having a pretty good day!! Now I will continue to be "watching" what I'm eating the rest of this week. I'm hoping by Thursday to be down those 3.5 lbs!! Just in time for NEXT weekend!! ;):carrot:

Had to laugh at this part- this is my exact conundrum every week- but hey you gotta love being at goal every week too!

I'm back from my mini-vacation and I am down 1 lb! Yay!! So I am sticking with phase 4 for now and will see how it goes.

Just learned I am going to have to have a heart procedure on Monday :(. I won't be able to exercise for a week. Can I get a pass on exercise in our challenge next week? I'm going to be in the hospital overnight so I guess I'll have to count the hospital food as a cheat day? So unfair!!

How's everybody doing with the challenge? I'm still learning to navigate the Fatsecret forum so if I haven't acknowledged someone's success, sorry. I can see where people are posting weigh-ins, exercise and food. Good work.
Congrats on the 1 pound loss woolberger! That's a job well done especially considering you were away...
Sorry to hear that you're in for a hospital visit this week- hope everything goes well. Having to have a hospital food cheat day is not right- I hope you at least get to sneak in something tasty ;)
You've got my vote on a pass this week for sure!
LoneLoser- are you participating in the challenge?
bigpassport- interesting info you received. After having tracked a couple days of maintenance eating I think I normally eat around the 1500 mark- could be interesting to see what upping it to 1800 would do... Maybe with more consistent exercise it wouldn't be too detrimental- kinda scary testing that philosophy out but maybe I'll get brave :D
Hope everyone had a great maintenance day. Really enjoying the challenge so far- it is really helping to keep me on track! Thanks to woolberger for the idea and Pxlkitty for setting it up!

sunnymae
09-28-2011, 10:25 AM
Hey Woolberger...have a safe procedure and who knows...maybe someone can sneak you in a real salad or somethin (even a mcdonalds caesar w/newmans lowfat dressing aint bad) :) but most important...be well and healthy and we'll all keep truckin' along with you.

I'm still figuring out the fatsecret website and trying to get as close to what I'm eating on there. eg.. you have to make stuff up for your own recipes or estimate closest to popular brands or restaurant versions of what youre eating. I'm trying not to be lazy and actually break apart what I'm making for myself, so the calorie/fat/carb count is closer to what I'im actually eating.

And would someone PLEASE tell me to stop weighing myself every day. I'm really screwing up my head going up and down .2 lbs.
Thanks and I'm loving doing this with all of you. I was gonna start ph1 on Halloween, but I might not need to after this challenge. I'd rather take a few off with real and IP foods mixed more together, like the real world, than go 100% back on products.

For my age and height, I need to be taking in 1400 calories a day to lose 8 lbs by the end of the challenge. I saw my coach yesterday and he told me to stop grazin and start moving around some more, so the 3x a week exercise requirement is totally working for me. :carrot:

capricious
09-28-2011, 11:12 AM
sunnymae if you want to know exactly what (calorie/ carb/ fat) is in the recipes and foods that you're eating there are a couple different sites that will allow you to input your own recipe then spit out what the values are... http://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-calculator.asp and http://caloriecount.about.com/cc/recipe_analysis.php -don't know if you want to take it that far- but I always find it useful (and comforting) to know exactly what I'm eating... It is a bit time consuming but you can always save the recipes for reference later...

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
09-28-2011, 11:50 AM
Hey Woolberger...have a safe procedure and who knows...maybe someone can sneak you in a real salad or somethin (even a mcdonalds caesar w/newmans lowfat dressing aint bad) :) but most important...be well and healthy and we'll all keep truckin' along with you.

I'm still figuring out the fatsecret website and trying to get as close to what I'm eating on there. eg.. you have to make stuff up for your own recipes or estimate closest to popular brands or restaurant versions of what youre eating. I'm trying not to be lazy and actually break apart what I'm making for myself, so the calorie/fat/carb count is closer to what I'im actually eating.

And would someone PLEASE tell me to stop weighing myself every day. I'm really screwing up my head going up and down .2 lbs.
Thanks and I'm loving doing this with all of you. I was gonna start ph1 on Halloween, but I might not need to after this challenge. I'd rather take a few off with real and IP foods mixed more together, like the real world, than go 100% back on products.

For my age and height, I need to be taking in 1400 calories a day to lose 8 lbs by the end of the challenge. I saw my coach yesterday and he told me to stop grazin and start moving around some more, so the 3x a week exercise requirement is totally working for me. :carrot:DONT Weigh Every day... there done.

sunnymae
09-28-2011, 01:12 PM
sunnymae if you want to know exactly what (calorie/ carb/ fat) is in the recipes and foods that you're eating there are a couple different sites that will allow you to input your own recipe then spit out what the values are... http://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-calculator.asp and http://caloriecount.about.com/cc/recipe_analysis.php -don't know if you want to take it that far- but I always find it useful (and comforting) to know exactly what I'm eating... It is a bit time consuming but you can always save the recipes for reference later...

Thanks for that link Capricious...I will go there and do some imput on my food. I really do want to be as accurate as possible, so I'm not fooling myself.

And thanks 2Ride for telling me to get off the scale!!!!

You Girls Rock :carrot:

Determinedat47
09-28-2011, 01:13 PM
Hey Woolberger...have a safe procedure and who knows...maybe someone can sneak you in a real salad or somethin (even a mcdonalds caesar w/newmans lowfat dressing aint bad) :) but most important...be well and healthy and we'll all keep truckin' along with you.

I'm still figuring out the fatsecret website and trying to get as close to what I'm eating on there. eg.. you have to make stuff up for your own recipes or estimate closest to popular brands or restaurant versions of what youre eating. I'm trying not to be lazy and actually break apart what I'm making for myself, so the calorie/fat/carb count is closer to what I'im actually eating.

And would someone PLEASE tell me to stop weighing myself every day. I'm really screwing up my head going up and down .2 lbs.
Thanks and I'm loving doing this with all of you. I was gonna start ph1 on Halloween, but I might not need to after this challenge. I'd rather take a few off with real and IP foods mixed more together, like the real world, than go 100% back on products.

For my age and height, I need to be taking in 1400 calories a day to lose 8 lbs by the end of the challenge. I saw my coach yesterday and he told me to stop grazin and start moving around some more, so the 3x a week exercise requirement is totally working for me. :carrot:

I work in a hospital and it would be the easiest place on earth to stay on plan. Tell the kitchen staff exactly what you want, and they can prepare it for you.

pitakitten
09-28-2011, 06:34 PM
Hello,

I just thought of posting this as an update:

went on IP april of 10, lost 30 by sept of 10. Have kept it off since, I do NOT do anything special these days but watch what I eat. I have carbs anytime I want just do not over do it. I do not do phase one after a day of being "bad". I work out at least 3 times a week or more and again watch what I eat.

thats it, and keep up the good work.

brandam6
09-28-2011, 06:52 PM
Hello again everyone! I decided not to do the challenge with you guys this time, because things have been so crazy for me.

Yesterday was my son's bday and today is my daughter's bday. Needless to say two bday cakes in two days and kid's choice dinners two nights in a row will have my weight up a little by the weekend I'm sure. What was I thinking having kids 4 years and 1 day apart? I'll be eating a lot of salads for the next week or so!