Ideal Protein Diet - The "Experienced" thread continued again again...




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Aunt Sheshie
08-07-2011, 12:24 PM
It appears that the old "Experienced" thread far exceeded its limits & has been closed... so :welcome: to all, but especially those of us who have been at this a while...

To visit the old thread, go to http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/232896-experienced-thread-continued-again.html...

hugs :hug:


Aunt Sheshie
08-07-2011, 03:15 PM
Am I the only old-timer around today?.. I hope everybody in the usual group are out having a SUPER Sunday afternoon... too hot here for any outdoor activity... maybe I'll venture out to WallyWorld in a bit to stock up on salad ingredients & veggies, thank goodness for my car's air conditioner...

My new trainer at the gym has put me on a new diet that she's developed... so far, it looks like what I can only describe as part-way between IP Phase 2 & Phase 3... a little fruit added, but no other carbs... still high protein & high veggies... since last Tuesday, I've lost about 4 lbs., so it must be okay... her workouts are tough, but just what I've been needing... I'm really ready to have a waist again!..

hugs :hug:

woolberger
08-07-2011, 03:56 PM
Am I the only old-timer around today?.. I hope everybody in the usual group are out having a SUPER Sunday afternoon... too hot here for any outdoor activity... maybe I'll venture out to WallyWorld in a bit to stock up on salad ingredients & veggies, thank goodness for my car's air conditioner...

My new trainer at the gym has put me on a new diet that she's developed... so far, it looks like what I can only describe as part-way between IP Phase 2 & Phase 3... a little fruit added, but no other carbs... still high protein & high veggies... since last Tuesday, I've lost about 4 lbs., so it must be okay... her workouts are tough, but just what I've been needing... I'm really ready to have a waist again!..

hugs :hug:


Hi Aunt Sheshie...

I'm here. Thanks for starting up the new thread. I was wondering when the site was going to figure out we were way over the 500 post limit.


samyswan
08-07-2011, 05:30 PM
Hi All - I've decided to come of 'lurkerville' and join the discussion. I hope you don't mind my joining this thread. It just feels like a better fit than the 'newbie' forum. I started IP 2 months ago and I weigh 30 lbs less than I did on May 11 (20 on IP.) Yay! I LOVE this diet and I LOVE being a size 10 -- haven't been there for 40 years! Thank you all for your encouragement, wisdom & wit. You've helped more than you know.

jordanna
08-07-2011, 06:25 PM
I dunno if I count as an old timer anymore but I have put about 8 months into IP between before my pregnancy and now :)

I enjoy this thread because it's not the same questions over and over again because no one takes a moment to read the sticky's before asking their questions :)

Anyway I hope you all don't mind if I crash this thread from now on...even though I've only been kicking aroun for a couple months!

jennydoodle
08-07-2011, 08:00 PM
I'm crashing too! ;) I have been on IP for almost 10 weeks, I can't believe it! I am so close to 20# and being more than 1/2 there. I have my WI tomorrow instead of Wed. because I have to be out of town and I am praying to hit the 140's. It is a short week for me so not sure if I will get it this week, but I snuck a look-sy at my scale and I am SOOOOOOO CLOOOOOOSE.

JoLoMN
08-07-2011, 08:09 PM
I'm crashing too. I've been at this for 5 months and loving the success. I've never lost weight on a diet like this before!

disgal
08-07-2011, 08:24 PM
I'm crashing too. I've been at this for 5 months and loving the success. I've never lost weight on a diet like this before!

Ditto!! But at 6 months!! :carrot: LOL!!

sandyh50
08-07-2011, 08:34 PM
I dunno if I count as an old timer anymore but I have put about 8 months into IP between before my pregnancy and now :)

I enjoy this thread because it's not the same questions over and over again because no one takes a moment to read the sticky's before asking their questions :)

Anyway I hope you all don't mind if I crash this thread from now on...even though I've only been kicking aroun for a couple months!

Me too! Before I started IP I read all the Stickies (thanks for a lot of yours Jordana) and since then I have been reading Dr. Tran's book and going to his website. I am starting to feel like an "experienced" IPer!!

I do agree that a lot of people are posting without going back and reading the sticky's. Maybe since they are consolidated now people don't really see them as answering their questions.

Have a great evening everyone!

Bellamack
08-07-2011, 08:50 PM
Am I the only old-timer around today?.. I hope everybody in the usual group are out having a SUPER Sunday afternoon... too hot here for any outdoor activity... maybe I'll venture out to WallyWorld in a bit to stock up on salad ingredients & veggies, thank goodness for my car's air conditioner...

My new trainer at the gym has put me on a new diet that she's developed... so far, it looks like what I can only describe as part-way between IP Phase 2 & Phase 3... a little fruit added, but no other carbs... still high protein & high veggies... since last Tuesday, I've lost about 4 lbs., so it must be okay... her workouts are tough, but just what I've been needing... I'm really ready to have a waist again!..

hugs :hug:

Congrats to you! I can not wait to have fruit and my greek yogurt, that is one of the reasons I never cheat. lol. Keep up the good work!

mamarix1
08-07-2011, 09:35 PM
Thanks for starting the thread!
I've been at 150 for 2 weeks now, I'm trying to maintain it while eating sensibly, and so far it's working. If I go over 151 I'm going to packet it for a day to get back down. Sounds like everyone is having great success this week.
Pray for rain!

Lucky Chick
08-07-2011, 09:42 PM
Am I the only old-timer around today?.. I hope everybody in the usual group are out having a SUPER Sunday afternoon... too hot here for any outdoor activity... maybe I'll venture out to WallyWorld in a bit to stock up on salad ingredients & veggies, thank goodness for my car's air conditioner...

My new trainer at the gym has put me on a new diet that she's developed... so far, it looks like what I can only describe as part-way between IP Phase 2 & Phase 3... a little fruit added, but no other carbs... still high protein & high veggies... since last Tuesday, I've lost about 4 lbs., so it must be okay... her workouts are tough, but just what I've been needing... I'm really ready to have a waist again!..



Can you give me some more info on the diet she put you on? I'm starting to worry about a minor upward trend on my scale... I could use some advice before I jump back on the big train. :)

Thanks for any input you have.

Chris

disgal
08-07-2011, 09:46 PM
I've been at 150 for 2 weeks now, I'm trying to maintain it while eating sensibly, and so far it's working. If I go over 151 I'm going to packet it for a day to get back down.

That sounds like a great plan!! I've been nervous just thinking about weaning off of the phases, but hearing from you makes me feel like I will be able to maintain when I get to goal too!! Keep up the good work!!!:carrot:

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-07-2011, 09:50 PM
Auntie - thank you for starting the new thread.

I would be interested in knowing the diet too... but I have a few more months on phase 1, each week I am getting closer I am inching to my 90% and am trying to get as ready as I can for phase 2 and 3 and 4...

Hope everyone had a great weekend, I finally got most of my lawn done... battery kept dying on my mower... lawn I swear was just about 2 feet tall, from all the rain... and today rain and clouds all day... oh well suppose to be nice during the week while I am in the air conditioned office where I have to wear a sweater...

longdivision
08-07-2011, 09:50 PM
Thanks for starting the thread!
I've been at 150 for 2 weeks now, I'm trying to maintain it while eating sensibly, and so far it's working. If I go over 151 I'm going to packet it for a day to get back down. Sounds like everyone is having great success this week.
Pray for rain!

i've been fluctuating between 145 and 147 ever since i started phase 2. it's getting annoying. my coach was out on thursday, so i met with the doctor and he said that i need t stay on phase 2 until i get to 140 so that when i go to phase 3 i'll have room to get back up to 145. the problem is that phase 2 isn't making me lose any weight. i'm going to see how it goes for the next couple of days and if i still don't lose anything i'll start doing phase 1 every other day, otherwise i'll just be stuck on phase 2 forever. i just want to be done so that i can start my exercise classes and get rid of this floppy belly, arm and thigh skin!

Aunt Sheshie
08-07-2011, 10:14 PM
I dunno if I count as an old timer anymore but I have put about 8 months into IP between before my pregnancy and now :)

I enjoy this thread because it's not the same questions over and over again because no one takes a moment to read the sticky's before asking their questions :)

Anyway I hope you all don't mind if I crash this thread from now on...even though I've only been kicking aroun for a couple months!

Of course you can post here, Jordanna!.. you have gobs of experience & tons of wisdom to share... truly, this thread isn't so much about time on IP as it is about sharing the experience in a non-newbie way... glad you're coming along...

Can you give me some more info on the diet she put you on? I'm starting to worry about a minor upward trend on my scale... I could use some advice before I jump back on the big train. :)

Thanks for any input you have.

Chris

Auntie - thank you for starting the new thread.

I would be interested in knowing the diet too... but I have a few more months on phase 1, each week I am getting closer I am inching to my 90% and am trying to get as ready as I can for phase 2 and 3 and 4...

Hope everyone had a great weekend, I finally got most of my lawn done... battery kept dying on my mower... lawn I swear was just about 2 feet tall, from all the rain... and today rain and clouds all day... oh well suppose to be nice during the week while I am in the air conditioned office where I have to wear a sweater...

It's essentially Phase 2, but with some low-sugar fruits added at breakfast & lunch... her list of low sugar fruits -- apples, berries (all types), grapefruit, oranges, peaches, pears, plums, prickly pear cactus, prunes... I've been doing mostly berries... kinda scared to venture out after going without fruit for so long... one thing I forgot to mention above was the addition of probiotics, either through a supplement or food (yogurt, kefir, low-fat acidophilus milk, tempeh)... so far, I've mostly relied on probiotic supplements, but I did have a Greek yogurt a couple of days ago that was mighty good... still, I'm trying to remember everything I've learned during my IP adventure, not going overboard on any carbs, even low sugar ones...

hugs :hug:

capricious
08-08-2011, 12:24 AM
i've been fluctuating between 145 and 147 ever since i started phase 2. it's getting annoying. my coach was out on thursday, so i met with the doctor and he said that i need t stay on phase 2 until i get to 140 so that when i go to phase 3 i'll have room to get back up to 145. the problem is that phase 2 isn't making me lose any weight. i'm going to see how it goes for the next couple of days and if i still don't lose anything i'll start doing phase 1 every other day, otherwise i'll just be stuck on phase 2 forever. i just want to be done so that i can start my exercise classes and get rid of this floppy belly, arm and thigh skin!
Oh boy do I ever hear this one! We have the same goal weight and I've had the same experience with phase 2- stalled right out in my first week of it and tomorrow is WI for the second week of phase 2. I can practically taste greek yogurt with raspberries and granola in my mouth right now! I tried having only white fish or 2 eggs (with the exception of this evening when I had chicken) for my protein for the week in hopes that this would promote a bigger drop. My coach said last week that if I stalled again or didn't have a good loss this week I would be looking at maintaining at the 150 mark vs. the 145. Not. What. I. Wanted. But I can completely identify with wanting to get back to the gym and having the carbs for my body to utilize for a higher intensity work out. Veeerrrryyyy undecided as to how to proceed... but... I think tomorrow will be the beginning of Phase 3... I hope...I get scared even writing that... I'll just have to see what tomorrow's numbers look like and decide at that point I guess...:dizzy:

longdivision
08-08-2011, 01:13 AM
Oh boy do I ever hear this one! We have the same goal weight and I've had the same experience with phase 2- stalled right out in my first week of it and tomorrow is WI for the second week of phase 2. I can practically taste greek yogurt with raspberries and granola in my mouth right now! I tried having only white fish or 2 eggs (with the exception of this evening when I had chicken) for my protein for the week in hopes that this would promote a bigger drop. My coach said last week that if I stalled again or didn't have a good loss this week I would be looking at maintaining at the 150 mark vs. the 145. Not. What. I. Wanted. But I can completely identify with wanting to get back to the gym and having the carbs for my body to utilize for a higher intensity work out. Veeerrrryyyy undecided as to how to proceed... but... I think tomorrow will be the beginning of Phase 3... I hope...I get scared even writing that... I'll just have to see what tomorrow's numbers look like and decide at that point I guess...:dizzy:

i hate to say this, but i'm glad you're right there with me! my WI for week 2 is on thursday. if i haven't lost at least one pound by then, i am putting myself back on (at least half of the week) phase one until i can get down to 143 or less. at this rate, i'll never get to 140 on phase 2. my coach did say that i would lose less than most on phase 2 since i am a vegetarian and my proteins have some carbs in them and meat doesn't. but ugh, i do not want to be on phase 2 for 5+ weeks. the Dr. said the whole point of phase 2 is to increase calories so that phase 3 isn't a huge shock. my only problem with that is that i don't get the increased calories since my vegetarian proteins only have 70-140 calories per serving, as opposed to 200-400 calories in meat. truth be told, i get less carbs than phase one as well, so maybe that is why i'm stalling so much? who knows...

LOSINGFORGOOD2010
08-08-2011, 08:19 AM
Thank you for starting this thread again...it feels like 'home' with all the familiar names here and the experience, and knowledge you all have is amazing and so very helpful. WELL.... I have been stuck in the mid 60's for about 6+ mths now... ONLY due to me relaxing on the plan... and i have successfully maintained, and been wearing FIRST TIME since a teenager 2 piece bathing suits this summer !!! and size 12s, so am down from a tight 18. I AM happy about all of this... but have now noticed the #'s are creeping up again... this will be a life long battle for me forever! Aug 4th was ONE year for me .... even tho I have not followed strictly OP.... So today, Aug 7th, is ROUND TWO... I am 7lbs up from my lowest of 163, there I said it... I am NOT happy about it... but its up to me now to finish this... I have no excuse. So these next 3 days will be a b***h LOL....I am so thankful for this forum...its been such a source of great ideas and support. Have a great OP day everyone... :)

MInewgoal
08-08-2011, 08:44 AM
It's Monday with a vengence! Just thought I'd share.
I ran away for the weekend...from pretty much everything. So now I have to face the consequences and man up for the week!

I have a face to face interview for a job that I phone interviewed for a week and a half ago. It's on Wednesday..and I'm super excited! And nervous. I really need it, but will try not to appear too desperate at the interview :devil:.

Down a little at this weeks WI, but I assume that I will not stay down. :(

LOSINGFORGOOD2010
08-08-2011, 09:10 AM
It's Monday with a vengence! Just thought I'd share.
I ran away for the weekend...from pretty much everything. So now I have to face the consequences and man up for the week!

I have a face to face interview for a job that I phone interviewed for a week and a half ago. It's on Wednesday..and I'm super excited! And nervous. I really need it, but will try not to appear too desperate at the interview :devil:.

Down a little at this weeks WI, but I assume that I will not stay down. :(

Good luck on the interview! you will do GREAT!..... :sunny:

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-08-2011, 10:09 AM
It's Monday with a vengence! Just thought I'd share.
I ran away for the weekend...from pretty much everything. So now I have to face the consequences and man up for the week!

I have a face to face interview for a job that I phone interviewed for a week and a half ago. It's on Wednesday..and I'm super excited! And nervous. I really need it, but will try not to appear too desperate at the interview :devil:.

Down a little at this weeks WI, but I assume that I will not stay down. :(Good luck you are going to do great in the interview and going to get the job... have a great week.

I keep trying to escape as well but work seems to find me... Wi # 24 & 25 today... I know I am at 75 lbs lost but I am hoping it will say at least 78 lost... would be nice but ate lot of red meat this weekend so who knows.

sandyh50
08-08-2011, 10:24 AM
Good luck you are going to do great in the interview and going to get the job... have a great week.

I keep trying to escape as well but work seems to find me... Wi # 24 & 25 today... I know I am at 75 lbs lost but I am hoping it will say at least 78 lost... would be nice but ate lot of red meat this weekend so who knows.

Oh my word! Your pics are amazing! 75 pounds lost is awesome! You go girl! I like the pics of you wearing the same dress, it's practically falling off of you in the after picture/!!

lakerlover
08-08-2011, 10:35 AM
I have lost 50 lbs on IP, it's a great plan! I am about 22 lbs from my goal. I leave tomorrow for a business trip and know that I will not be able to stay 100% OP. I talked to my coach about my trip and he advise was just not to go overboard but to enjoy myself. All of the meals are company supplied buffet style-so I will not be able to have my food cooked IP friendly. I need suggestions on what to eat.

Pxlkitty4
08-08-2011, 10:58 AM
I was down less than one pound this week. GRRR... TOM for me. I really want to see somthing that starts with "14"... I'm struggling mentally with the program now. I still feel like I want to lose 5-10 more lbs, but part of me thinks I will always think that now and that I will never be happy. There is one little part of tummy flab that has to go, and then everything else I think I can live with. I've been hungrier this past week, now that I'm more active. I've allowed myself an extra packet on the days I work out. I hope that's it's also partly because I'm building muscle that I didn't lose very much. Have a good week everyone.

Welcome to those who are jumping over here. It isn't about time on the program, rather comfort with the program and needing help with being bored/tired of it rather than asking the same newbie questions over and over and over. As long as you understand the one-pager for Phase 1 and really "get the whole thing", I say come on over...

i've been fluctuating between 145 and 147 ever since i started phase 2. it's getting annoying. my coach was out on thursday, so i met with the doctor and he said that i need t stay on phase 2 until i get to 140 so that when i go to phase 3 i'll have room to get back up to 145. the problem is that phase 2 isn't making me lose any weight. i'm going to see how it goes for the next couple of days and if i still don't lose anything i'll start doing phase 1 every other day, otherwise i'll just be stuck on phase 2 forever. i just want to be done so that i can start my exercise classes and get rid of this floppy belly, arm and thigh skin!

I have a fear of Phase 2... I hope to be there soon (plan to swap over at 150). I just can't wait to be done!


It's essentially Phase 2, but with some low-sugar fruits added at breakfast & lunch... her list of low sugar fruits -- apples, berries (all types), grapefruit, oranges, peaches, pears, plums, prickly pear cactus, prunes... I've been doing mostly berries... kinda scared to venture out after going without fruit for so long... one thing I forgot to mention above was the addition of probiotics, either through a supplement or food (yogurt, kefir, low-fat acidophilus milk, tempeh)... so far, I've mostly relied on probiotic supplements, but I did have a Greek yogurt a couple of days ago that was mighty good... still, I'm trying to remember everything I've learned during my IP adventure, not going overboard on any carbs, even low sugar ones...

hugs :hug:

Check out "Fat Flush"... that includes low carb fruits as well. This sounds similar.

Oh boy do I ever hear this one! We have the same goal weight and I've had the same experience with phase 2- stalled right out in my first week of it and tomorrow is WI for the second week of phase 2. I can practically taste greek yogurt with raspberries and granola in my mouth right now! I tried having only white fish or 2 eggs (with the exception of this evening when I had chicken) for my protein for the week in hopes that this would promote a bigger drop. My coach said last week that if I stalled again or didn't have a good loss this week I would be looking at maintaining at the 150 mark vs. the 145. Not. What. I. Wanted. But I can completely identify with wanting to get back to the gym and having the carbs for my body to utilize for a higher intensity work out. Veeerrrryyyy undecided as to how to proceed... but... I think tomorrow will be the beginning of Phase 3... I hope...I get scared even writing that... I'll just have to see what tomorrow's numbers look like and decide at that point I guess...:dizzy:

Let me know what you decide. I can almost taste greek yoghurt too. The mental struggle of this diet is getting very old. I just want my dairy and fruit back!

It's Monday with a vengence! Just thought I'd share.
I ran away for the weekend...from pretty much everything. So now I have to face the consequences and man up for the week!

I have a face to face interview for a job that I phone interviewed for a week and a half ago. It's on Wednesday..and I'm super excited! And nervous. I really need it, but will try not to appear too desperate at the interview :devil:.

Down a little at this weeks WI, but I assume that I will not stay down. :(

Thinking of you and the interview this Wednesday. Knock 'em dead!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-08-2011, 11:30 AM
I was down less than one pound this week. GRRR... TOM for me. I really want to see somthing that starts with "14"... I'm struggling mentally with the program now. I still feel like I want to lose 5-10 more lbs, but part of me thinks I will always think that now and that I will never be happy. There is one little part of tummy flab that has to go, and then everything else I think I can live with. I've been hungrier this past week, now that I'm more active. I've allowed myself an extra packet on the days I work out. I hope that's it's also partly because I'm building muscle that I didn't lose very much. Have a good week everyone.

Welcome to those who are jumping over here. It isn't about time on the program, rather comfort with the program and needing help with being bored/tired of it rather than asking the same newbie questions over and over and over. As long as you understand the one-pager for Phase 1 and really "get the whole thing", I say come on over...



I have a fear of Phase 2... I hope to be there soon (plan to swap over at 150). I just can't wait to be done!



Check out "Fat Flush"... that includes low carb fruits as well. This sounds similar.



Let me know what you decide. I can almost taste greek yoghurt too. The mental struggle of this diet is getting very old. I just want my dairy and fruit back!



Thinking of you and the interview this Wednesday. Knock 'em dead!

and Longdiv and Cap --

I hear the last 10 lbs are the hardest ever and you have to buckle down really hard on them... that just scares me... also phase 2 scares me... I know it can be done successfully but it is the unknown that is scary... I think you 3 are going to do great. You are all so skinny now... I just can't wait... have a great day.

brummie
08-08-2011, 11:33 AM
I was down less than one pound this week. GRRR... TOM for me. I really want to see somthing that starts with "14"... I'm struggling mentally with the program now. I still feel like I want to lose 5-10 more lbs, but part of me thinks I will always think that now and that I will never be happy. There is one little part of tummy flab that has to go, and then everything else I think I can live with. I've been hungrier this past week, now that I'm more active. I've allowed myself an extra packet on the days I work out. I hope that's it's also partly because I'm building muscle that I didn't lose very much. Have a good week everyone.



I'm glad you said this, i hit 140 on friday (even tho at the clinic, my WI was 141). I have a lot of loose skin, but feel like I may never be happy with my body until i start working out. I also think that I will always want to lose 5 pounds more. So, when I got home after visiting the clinic, i decided to start phase 2.
This is probably really vain, but even though i am enjoying looking in the mirror at my body, my face looks really gaunt, almost like I am sick
...the only person who gets what I mean is my mom! (I'm pretty sure it's a mental thing, I've spent my entire life looking at my chubby faced reflection in the mirror...and there is no doubt that this change came quicker then my brain expected!)
So, I'm offically on Phase 2 and to make myself feel better about it, I changed my goal from 130 to 135!
Have a great week everyone!

JackieGee
08-08-2011, 12:03 PM
Brummie I know what you mean about the loose skin and gaunt look - although I am by no means gaunt yet. I'm 60 and have been way overweight for a long time so I'm pretty worried about the loose skin.

Yesterday I went across the street to have coffee with a neighbour. She's only 3 years older than me - now she does smoke, barely moves and drinks like a fish, but still - she was wearing a baggy tank top with no bra but the worst part were her arms. They were grossly baggy loose skin with no fill or fat in them at all and very crepey. It made me almost want to stay fat.

then when I was watching tv I saw a commercial for lifestyle lift and I called. They are all in the US but I'm getting a brochure anyway. I'm thinking that if I lost all my 70 or 80 pounds I might have one of those lifestyle lifts to pick up my baggy jowls and neck and whatever else has sunken as I lose weight. It costs about $5000 US but that's cheaper and easier than a facelift. And it's done under local anesthetic.

As for the baggy arms, I will start working out when I get a big lower and try to minimize it but other than that - I don't know what can be done - I guess that's what clothes are for.

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-08-2011, 12:27 PM
I'm glad you said this, i hit 140 on friday (even tho at the clinic, my WI was 141). I have a lot of loose skin, but feel like I may never be happy with my body until i start working out. I also think that I will always want to lose 5 pounds more. So, when I got home after visiting the clinic, i decided to start phase 2.
This is probably really vain, but even though i am enjoying looking in the mirror at my body, my face looks really gaunt, almost like I am sick
...the only person who gets what I mean is my mom! (I'm pretty sure it's a mental thing, I've spent my entire life looking at my chubby faced reflection in the mirror...and there is no doubt that this change came quicker then my brain expected!)
So, I'm offically on Phase 2 and to make myself feel better about it, I changed my goal from 130 to 135!
Have a great week everyone!So congrats on the 50lbs lost that is huge:woohoo::congrat: the face in the mirror, oh how I agree with you there, I still don't recognize me, I see my sister (which is kind of scary) I didn't think we looked that much like each other... but then I have always had such a round face. Now my face shape is more like hers, I know it is me but where did I get those bags under my eyes and how can I get rid of them. I too have loose skin, my arms just look yucky, but I brave the world and still wear tank tops and shorts. My biggest sag is in my stomach, I noticed that my poor belly button is so sunk in it is scary. But I love that my size 10 pants are getting loose too and will have to go goodwilling again for shirts as some of them are too big now. My T-shirts look like I am wearing 10x too big... (I love my t-shirts) and I just haven't found replacements for them. I looked at myself yesterday just before walking the dogs my t-shirt is just about mid thigh and my shorts are so big my legs look like little sticks coming out of them... so will have to start shopping again. (I don't really like shopping) I put it off as much as I can.

Brummie you hare doing great you just keep up what you are doing and it only matters as to when YOU feel you are ready to go to the next phase. Good luck.:hug:

Pxlkitty4
08-08-2011, 12:40 PM
Brummie I know what you mean about the loose skin and gaunt look - although I am by no means gaunt yet. I'm 60 and have been way overweight for a long time so I'm pretty worried about the loose skin.

Yesterday I went across the street to have coffee with a neighbour. She's only 3 years older than me - now she does smoke, barely moves and drinks like a fish, but still - she was wearing a baggy tank top with no bra but the worst part were her arms. They were grossly baggy loose skin with no fill or fat in them at all and very crepey. It made me almost want to stay fat.

then when I was watching tv I saw a commercial for lifestyle lift and I called. They are all in the US but I'm getting a brochure anyway. I'm thinking that if I lost all my 70 or 80 pounds I might have one of those lifestyle lifts to pick up my baggy jowls and neck and whatever else has sunken as I lose weight. It costs about $5000 US but that's cheaper and easier than a facelift. And it's done under local anesthetic.

As for the baggy arms, I will start working out when I get a big lower and try to minimize it but other than that - I don't know what can be done - I guess that's what clothes are for.

I recommend doing some additional reading about loose skin. I read somewhere that loose skin is normally that way because there is some fat trapped underneath after losing a lot of weight. The skin is very good at stretching and then shrinking. I read somewhere that if you lose another 5lbs, then the skin starts to tighten and the flabbiness goes away... I certainly hope this is the case, as my arm flab is starting to get to me... and I don't want plastic surgery.

brummie
08-08-2011, 01:32 PM
Brummie I know what you mean about the loose skin and gaunt look - although I am by no means gaunt yet. I'm 60 and have been way overweight for a long time so I'm pretty worried about the loose skin.

Yesterday I went across the street to have coffee with a neighbour. She's only 3 years older than me - now she does smoke, barely moves and drinks like a fish, but still - she was wearing a baggy tank top with no bra but the worst part were her arms. They were grossly baggy loose skin with no fill or fat in them at all and very crepey. It made me almost want to stay fat.

then when I was watching tv I saw a commercial for lifestyle lift and I called. They are all in the US but I'm getting a brochure anyway. I'm thinking that if I lost all my 70 or 80 pounds I might have one of those lifestyle lifts to pick up my baggy jowls and neck and whatever else has sunken as I lose weight. It costs about $5000 US but that's cheaper and easier than a facelift. And it's done under local anesthetic.

As for the baggy arms, I will start working out when I get a big lower and try to minimize it but other than that - I don't know what can be done - I guess that's what clothes are for.

I think working out is definately the way to go for me. It really is just the flappy arms that are bugging me, my thighs and tummy are pretty gross, but I'm not as bothered about them! Funny (well maybe not), when I see my saggy belly skin in the mirror it looks like a sad face...my belly button just looks like a sad smile!

So congrats on the 50lbs lost that is huge:woohoo::congrat: the face in the mirror, oh how I agree with you there, I still don't recognize me, I see my sister (which is kind of scary) I didn't think we looked that much like each other... but then I have always had such a round face. Now my face shape is more like hers, I know it is me but where did I get those bags under my eyes and how can I get rid of them. I too have loose skin, my arms just look yucky, but I brave the world and still wear tank tops and shorts. My biggest sag is in my stomach, I noticed that my poor belly button is so sunk in it is scary. But I love that my size 10 pants are getting loose too and will have to go goodwilling again for shirts as some of them are too big now. My T-shirts look like I am wearing 10x too big... (I love my t-shirts) and I just haven't found replacements for them. I looked at myself yesterday just before walking the dogs my t-shirt is just about mid thigh and my shorts are so big my legs look like little sticks coming out of them... so will have to start shopping again. (I don't really like shopping) I put it off as much as I can.

Brummie you hare doing great you just keep up what you are doing and it only matters as to when YOU feel you are ready to go to the next phase. Good luck.:hug:

Thank you! I got to find out what 50lbs actually feels like this weekend. We grind our own flour, so I had to go pick up some grain. This is the first time hubby or my son weren't with me - I picked up a 50lb bag and could barely lift it into the trunk of my car! No wonder my hip and knee were always hurting! that's a lot of extra baggage!

I know what you mean about looking like your sister! when I started losing the weight I could see the resemblence a little bit, but now...we almost look like twins!! Except, I'm younger!!

I recommend doing some additional reading about loose skin. I read somewhere that loose skin is normally that way because there is some fat trapped underneath after losing a lot of weight. The skin is very good at stretching and then shrinking. I read somewhere that if you lose another 5lbs, then the skin starts to tighten and the flabbiness goes away... I certainly hope this is the case, as my arm flab is starting to get to me... and I don't want plastic surgery.

pxlkitty: I met a lady that had lost 160 lbs a few years ago (about 90lbs lost on IP), as you can imagine, she had quite a bit of loose skin when she phased out. I asked her how she toned up her skin and like you she mentioned pilates. she said that once she started it seemed slow, but once she had lost her first couple of inches she was suprised how quickly the loose skin tightened up. I hope this is true too!

carlasherea
08-08-2011, 02:07 PM
I'm back too!!! I have had a whirlwind of a summer. So busy that I haven't even been making it to my workout classes and eating right has been few and far between. I'm officially back at work today and I seem to notice I do much better with my whole life when I have that structure back in place. I have gained a few lbs but not enough that 2 weeks won't get it all back off. I am heading to my class this evening. I notice I'm not as firm, so I want to fix that too. Good to see you all again!

ash825
08-08-2011, 02:26 PM
Really interesting discussion on here this morning. I feel like a lot of us are in that same point--either near goal or re-evaluating goal, but plugging away (sick of it) not quite sure what to do. I thought I would share my perspective.

I'm not 100% happy with my body but I've lost a lot of weight and went from a an 18 to a 10. I feel amazing and am excited to keep up this healthy lifestyle. I will say that I'm mentally OVER doing full on phase 1 IP. Thus, I started phasing out (tomorrow's my last day of phase 2). Does the weight loss slow down? Of course. It's phasing out to "regular" eating. But, I'm trying really hard to re-focus on what I've done, not what's left to do. I'm embracing my "phase out" instead of letting the fear suck me in. Instead of focusing so much energy on IP, I signed up for a 5k in October (eeeek!) and am entering the "work out world" this week. Today I biked for nearly an hour with a 3 year old in tow and my legs are like jello but I loved it!

My plan from here on out? Phase out, maintain, enjoy Summer and Fall and re-evaluate my weight loss goals in January (which is my 1 year on IP).

Just my 2 cents. To each their own but it's honestly released SO MUCH pressure to have a new plan. I feel mentally renewed. I'm appreciative of IP not completely controlled by and resentful of IP. Hope that makes sense.

Happy Monday!

hawndragon
08-08-2011, 03:12 PM
I dunno if I count as an old timer anymore but I have put about 8 months into IP between before my pregnancy and now :)

I enjoy this thread because it's not the same questions over and over again because no one takes a moment to read the sticky's before asking their questions :)

Anyway I hope you all don't mind if I crash this thread from now on...even though I've only been kicking aroun for a couple months!

Jordanna it is so good to see your face back in the chats! I want you to know you have been such an inspiration to me. When I started, I devoured all of the info you shared along with Carla's. You two rock and have made such a difference in my life. Thank you!!

Lucky Chick
08-08-2011, 03:15 PM
Really interesting discussion on here this morning. I feel like a lot of us are in that same point--either near goal or re-evaluating goal, but plugging away (sick of it) not quite sure what to do. I thought I would share my perspective.

I'm not 100% happy with my body but I've lost a lot of weight and went from a an 18 to a 10. I feel amazing and am excited to keep up this healthy lifestyle. I will say that I'm mentally OVER doing full on phase 1 IP. Thus, I started phasing out (tomorrow's my last day of phase 2). Does the weight loss slow down? Of course. It's phasing out to "regular" eating. But, I'm trying really hard to re-focus on what I've done, not what's left to do. I'm embracing my "phase out" instead of letting the fear suck me in. Instead of focusing so much energy on IP, I signed up for a 5k in October (eeeek!) and am entering the "work out world" this week. Today I biked for nearly an hour with a 3 year old in tow and my legs are like jello but I loved it!

My plan from here on out? Phase out, maintain, enjoy Summer and Fall and re-evaluate my weight loss goals in January (which is my 1 year on IP).

Just my 2 cents. To each their own but it's honestly released SO MUCH pressure to have a new plan. I feel mentally renewed. I'm appreciative of IP not completely controlled by and resentful of IP. Hope that makes sense.

Happy Monday!

It is great to hear from you, Ash. Believe it or not I was just thinking about you this morning.

I love when you say you are embracing phasing out instead of letting fear suck you in. I think I have gotten a little sucked in by the fear of gaining rather than fully letting go and learning to live without IP. I appreciate your words.

Congrats and good luck!
Chris :hug:

hawndragon
08-08-2011, 03:25 PM
Hello everyone~
Today I moved to P3!! I am 5 lbs away from my 175 lb goal!!! I feel great and am down from a 22/24 to 12/14. Gosh, I am so happy and proud of myself for persevering during this difficult time in my life. My husband may have left me, but through it all, I FOUND MYSELF!!! Thank you for all of your support and encouragement when I needed it. Five more pounds....and I know I will do it.
(I'm going to figure out how to post before and after shots...my new avatar is from last week.)

MInewgoal
08-08-2011, 03:49 PM
Hello everyone~
Today I moved to P3!! I am 5 lbs away from my 175 lb goal!!! I feel great and am down from a 22/24 to 12/14. Gosh, I am so happy and proud of myself for persevering during this difficult time in my life. My husband may have left me, but through it all, I FOUND MYSELF!!! Thank you for all of your support and encouragement when I needed it. Five more pounds....and I know I will do it.
(I'm going to figure out how to post before and after shots...my new avatar is from last week.)

All I have to say is... WOW!!! :cheer:

Excellent Job! Way to persevere!

mamarix1
08-08-2011, 03:56 PM
That sounds like a great plan!! I've been nervous just thinking about weaning off of the phases, but hearing from you makes me feel like I will be able to maintain when I get to goal too!! Keep up the good work!!!:carrot:

Thanks for the vote of confidence! I was at 149 today. I was so worried about maintenance, but so far it's working. I did get up and walk at 5:30 this morning, so maybe that is helping! I've decided to keep wearing size 10, they're a little baggy, but I use a belt. I think 5.8 and a size 10 is just about right for my frame.
Mary

mamarix1
08-08-2011, 03:58 PM
i've been fluctuating between 145 and 147 ever since i started phase 2. it's getting annoying. my coach was out on thursday, so i met with the doctor and he said that i need t stay on phase 2 until i get to 140 so that when i go to phase 3 i'll have room to get back up to 145. the problem is that phase 2 isn't making me lose any weight. i'm going to see how it goes for the next couple of days and if i still don't lose anything i'll start doing phase 1 every other day, otherwise i'll just be stuck on phase 2 forever. i just want to be done so that i can start my exercise classes and get rid of this floppy belly, arm and thigh skin!

Maybe if you started exercising you would get rid of those last pesky lbs. I know it would make you feel better and ease some of your frustration. A lot of us have exercised through the whole program. Maybe you could give it a week trial just to see???

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-08-2011, 04:02 PM
Hello everyone~
Today I moved to P3!! I am 5 lbs away from my 175 lb goal!!! I feel great and am down from a 22/24 to 12/14. Gosh, I am so happy and proud of myself for persevering during this difficult time in my life. My husband may have left me, but through it all, I FOUND MYSELF!!! Thank you for all of your support and encouragement when I needed it. Five more pounds....and I know I will do it.
(I'm going to figure out how to post before and after shots...my new avatar is from last week.)Wow that is great, you are a real inspiration.

Aunt Sheshie
08-08-2011, 04:07 PM
I recommend doing some additional reading about loose skin. I read somewhere that loose skin is normally that way because there is some fat trapped underneath after losing a lot of weight. The skin is very good at stretching and then shrinking. I read somewhere that if you lose another 5lbs, then the skin starts to tighten and the flabbiness goes away... I certainly hope this is the case, as my arm flab is starting to get to me... and I don't want plastic surgery.

I read that too, Pxlkitty4... in my case, I can sorta tell there's still some fat in my "bat-wings" but they're gradually tightening up, as is the rest of my stretched-out skin... I still have wrinkly skin here & there, but not as bad as I expected... anyway, if anybody wants to read what one guy has to say about it, go to The Myth of Loose Skin (http://www.bodyfatguide.com/LooseSkin.htm)...

hugs :hug:

capricious
08-08-2011, 04:14 PM
Woohoo!!! Yippee!!! Woohoo!! I AM SO EXCITED!!! The fish thing evidently worked because I dropped 3 pounds to 144! Sweet! I will now stop using exclamation marks but it was thrilling to step on the scale and have the stupid thing move enough that I can feel justified moving onto phase 3. Last night I was so nervous I couldn't get to sleep- felt like tomorrow was my first day back at school after the summer... ridiculous, but true...
My coach is aware of my upcoming girls weekend and when I asked where my weight would likely settle she said it will probably be in the 146-147 range but to accommodate going away it's best to continue with phasing off. Which to my way of thinking is acceptable- she also stated that if I felt a need to 'deal' with those extra couple/ few pounds I could follow Phase 2 for a bit again after I have phased off... We'll see... I'd really like to see what the gym can offer in the way of change now that IP has given me so much...
I, too, have the loose skin and the belly button that looks like a mustachio BUT it has come a loonnnnngggggg way from where it was- it is still a work in progress- just going to be utilizing exercise as a tool now rather than completely relying upon diet. I have read that body composition is 80% what you eat 10% exercise 10% genetics. I can't effect the genetics and I feel comfortable with having the eating under control at this point- it's time to exercise! So very, very thankful to have made it a bit past goal and really really looking forward to tomorrow mornings breakfast. I went out and bought yogurt, raspberries and granola- as this was my go to breakfast prior to starting IP- and I'm DYING to have it.
I'm very happy to be in the midst of you all- you're going to be a great group to maintain with!
:D

mamarix1
08-08-2011, 04:18 PM
Woohoo!!! Yippee!!! Woohoo!! I AM SO EXCITED!!! The fish thing evidently worked because I dropped 3 pounds to 144! Sweet! I will now stop using exclamation marks but it was thrilling to step on the scale and have the stupid thing move enough that I can feel justified moving onto phase 3. Last night I was so nervous I couldn't get to sleep- felt like tomorrow was my first day back at school after the summer... ridiculous, but true...
My coach is aware of my upcoming girls weekend and when I asked where my weight would likely settle she said it will probably be in the 146-147 range but to accommodate going away it's best to continue with phasing off. Which to my way of thinking is acceptable- she also stated that if I felt a need to 'deal' with those extra couple/ few pounds I could follow Phase 2 for a bit again after I have phased off... We'll see... I'd really like to see what the gym can offer in the way of change now that IP has given me so much...
I, too, have the loose skin and the belly button that looks like a mustachio BUT it has come a loonnnnngggggg way from where it was- it is still a work in progress- just going to be utilizing exercise as a tool now rather than completely relying upon diet. I have read that body composition is 80% what you eat 10% exercise 10% genetics. I can't effect the genetics and I feel comfortable with having the eating under control at this point- it's time to exercise! So very, very thankful to have made it a bit past goal and really really looking forward to tomorrow mornings breakfast. I went out and bought yogurt, raspberries and granola- as this was my go to breakfast prior to starting IP- and I'm DYING to have it.
I'm very happy to be in the midst of you all- you're going to be a great group to maintain with!
:D

Have I added you to the IP facebook page? Send me a message with your 'real' name if you would like me to add you. And, Congratulations!!!
Mary

disgal
08-08-2011, 04:19 PM
I read that too, Pxlkitty4... in my case, I can sorta tell there's still some fat in my "bat-wings" but they're gradually tightening up, as is the rest of my stretched-out skin... I still have wrinkly skin here & there, but not as bad as I expected... anyway, if anybody wants to read what one guy has to say about it, go to The Myth of Loose Skin (http://www.bodyfatguide.com/LooseSkin.htm)...

hugs :hug:

WOW! I was just on that website....then came on here and saw your post!! LOL!! :carrot: It's interesting...and makes sense too!!:D

capricious
08-08-2011, 04:29 PM
Laura- Hopefully your WI will go as well as mine and you'll be able to hop on the Phase 3 wagon... it's difficult to offer any concrete advice as you're definitely more of an expert on the program than I, and you can't eat animal protein which would definitely make changing things up a LOT more difficult...BUT... you look fantastic!! And that's what it's really all about right? I'm sure when you started IP you did so with the intention of looking a certain way- as this is what the world sees- the number on the scale is personal as no one but you sees it. I completely understand the semantics of it however- we set our goals as numbers on the scale- not pant size or measurements for that matter- and when you've come this far you want to see it through to the end. If you hit your goal of 145 on the scale on Thursday- maybe you could consider phase 3? Try phasing off and see how much it impacts you- maybe the number WON'T go up and if it does- there's no rule to say you can't revert to Phase 2 or even Phase 1 for that matter and 'deal' with the extra few.
My coach mentioned that it is natural for us to put on about 6 pounds thru the year, which I believe is also in Dr. Tran's book, and that it is recommended to do a once a year 'tune-up'. Mine will be in March as it is my one year anniversary on the program, just as Ash will be doing hers in January at her one year point. Any extra could also be 'dealt' with then if it is really bothering you...
Just food for thought... looking forward to seeing how your WI turns out and what decision you make...

capricious
08-08-2011, 04:40 PM
Brummie-:congrat: on moving into phase 2!

hawndragon
08-08-2011, 05:01 PM
Think I got it right~created the link to my progress photos.

brummie
08-08-2011, 05:21 PM
I read that too, Pxlkitty4... in my case, I can sorta tell there's still some fat in my "bat-wings" but they're gradually tightening up, as is the rest of my stretched-out skin... I still have wrinkly skin here & there, but not as bad as I expected... anyway, if anybody wants to read what one guy has to say about it, go to The Myth of Loose Skin (http://www.bodyfatguide.com/LooseSkin.htm)...

hugs :hug:

Thanks for the link! I started reading it, but have to get back to work, so I'll read it later.

Brummie-:congrat: on moving into phase 2!
Thanks! I really enjoyed my tuna salad lunch today!
Congrats on getting to phase 3! The granola and yogurt sound soooo yummy! I can't wait!

Think I got it right~created the link to my progress photos.

Wow! You look awesome! Congratulations (and I hope your ex feels like a steaming pile of cr*p when he sees your vavavooom!)

Lucky Chick
08-08-2011, 06:03 PM
I'm with Brummie, Hawndragon. He can eat his heart out! (pun intended) You look terrific. Way to go!!

And Capricious, congrats on phase 3. That first breakfast after phases 1 and 2 is the BEST!

Pxlkitty4
08-08-2011, 08:02 PM
pxlkitty: I met a lady that had lost 160 lbs a few years ago (about 90lbs lost on IP), as you can imagine, she had quite a bit of loose skin when she phased out. I asked her how she toned up her skin and like you she mentioned pilates. she said that once she started it seemed slow, but once she had lost her first couple of inches she was suprised how quickly the loose skin tightened up. I hope this is true too!

I just got home from a 30-min pilates mat class. It kicked my butt, but hopefully it will help me lose my flabby butt! I'm doing reformer once each week (the equipment), and then will do matt class each week too... I certainly hope I see some toning soon!

AmyonIP
08-08-2011, 08:23 PM
Hi all. Sounds like I'm in the same boat as some of you. I hit maintenance and then I just slipped into my old habits. Not as bad as before, but it was going to head there. So Saturday I decided I'm not going to let it get farther and start Phase 1 again. So far so good. I'm not obsessing as much as I used to about it, I just know what needs to be done and know what to do, so pull up the straps, dust myself off, and get back to it. I will do the phases again but this time when it gets to maintenance I'll have to do it a lot different.

I'm excited that my sis joined and lost over 50 pounds and her hubby joined and has lost 30. Now my friend has her apt on friday to start.

Jordanna, it's finally nice to "meet" you. Were'nt you one of the stories on here who got pregnant using BC while on IP?

jordanna
08-08-2011, 11:10 PM
Hi all. Sounds like I'm in the same boat as some of you. I hit maintenance and then I just slipped into my old habits. Not as bad as before, but it was going to head there. So Saturday I decided I'm not going to let it get farther and start Phase 1 again. So far so good. I'm not obsessing as much as I used to about it, I just know what needs to be done and know what to do, so pull up the straps, dust myself off, and get back to it. I will do the phases again but this time when it gets to maintenance I'll have to do it a lot different.

I'm excited that my sis joined and lost over 50 pounds and her hubby joined and has lost 30. Now my friend has her apt on friday to start.

Jordanna, it's finally nice to "meet" you. Were'nt you one of the stories on here who got pregnant using BC while on IP?

Lol not pregnant on BC but my husband and I had tried to have kids for 5 years with no luck, 5 months on IP did the trick though :)

Jordanna it is so good to see your face back in the chats! I want you to know you have been such an inspiration to me. When I started, I devoured all of the info you shared along with Carla's. You two rock and have made such a difference in my life. Thank you!!

Hawndragon, I think I'm taking inspiration from you rather than the other way around :). But thank you for your kind words.

petie
08-09-2011, 01:04 AM
I read that too, Pxlkitty4... in my case, I can sorta tell there's still some fat in my "bat-wings" but they're gradually tightening up, as is the rest of my stretched-out skin... I still have wrinkly skin here & there, but not as bad as I expected... anyway, if anybody wants to read what one guy has to say about it, go to The Myth of Loose Skin (http://www.bodyfatguide.com/LooseSkin.htm)...

hugs :hug:

I didn't think there would be any hope for mine. It's very nice to know that maybe there is. I really do not like my arms. ...and tonight I was laying on my back with my legs strait up and my knees are baggy. That was funny, the arms aren't. Thanks for the link.

hawndragon
08-09-2011, 04:16 AM
Thanks for the link! I started reading it, but have to get back to work, so I'll read it later.


Thanks! I really enjoyed my tuna salad lunch today!
Congrats on getting to phase 3! The granola and yogurt sound soooo yummy! I can't wait!



Wow! You look awesome! Congratulations (and I hope your ex feels like a steaming pile of cr*p when he sees your vavavooom!)

I'm with Brummie, Hawndragon. He can eat his heart out! (pun intended) You look terrific. Way to go!!


Thank you all so much! Time for a new chapter in my life. It's all good. I choose not to be a bitter and resentful woman. There is so much more life to live and I move forward because "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me!"

LOSINGFORGOOD2010
08-09-2011, 09:08 AM
good morning all,
I have a blood pressure question for you... thus NOT posting this on the 'newbie thread'. I have been following the 'plan' for one year now... upon some routine blood work at the doc's office about 2 mths ago, i rx'd a letter in the mail from her, telling me I am missing iron in my blood, and named a supp that I was to go pick up, take each day for 6 mths and we will check the blood again. It so happens that I have my annual check up on the 19th of this month and I am glad, because last night, my head started to spin... after eating supper, (eat whites, and cucumbers)...not after any kind of exertion. by the time I got to bed, it was spinning so fast, I felt like i was on a carnival ride, or just drank a bottle of wine. It was scary. I slept for bout 2 hrs, got up slowly and took my pressure. 3x......... averaged out to be 95/63.... too low in my opinion. Same this morning...... did some research on the net and found this: Lack of nutrients in your diet. A lack of the vitamins B-12 and folate can cause anemia, a condition in which your body doesn't produce enough red blood cells, causing low blood pressure.
I am hoping against hope that because of the duration I have been following this plan WHICH btw I love !!! that it has not upset my bloodwork... I dont know if anyone else has experienced this, or is in the health field and can explain this? just thought I would throw this out there... having liver and spinach for supper for sure... have a great day everyone.

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-09-2011, 12:19 PM
good morning all,
I have a blood pressure question for you... thus NOT posting this on the 'newbie thread'. I have been following the 'plan' for one year now... upon some routine blood work at the doc's office about 2 mths ago, i rx'd a letter in the mail from her, telling me I am missing iron in my blood, and named a supp that I was to go pick up, take each day for 6 mths and we will check the blood again. It so happens that I have my annual check up on the 19th of this month and I am glad, because last night, my head started to spin... after eating supper, (eat whites, and cucumbers)...not after any kind of exertion. by the time I got to bed, it was spinning so fast, I felt like i was on a carnival ride, or just drank a bottle of wine. It was scary. I slept for bout 2 hrs, got up slowly and took my pressure. 3x......... averaged out to be 95/63.... too low in my opinion. Same this morning...... did some research on the net and found this: Lack of nutrients in your diet. A lack of the vitamins B-12 and folate can cause anemia, a condition in which your body doesn't produce enough red blood cells, causing low blood pressure.
I am hoping against hope that because of the duration I have been following this plan WHICH btw I love !!! that it has not upset my bloodwork... I dont know if anyone else has experienced this, or is in the health field and can explain this? just thought I would throw this out there... having liver and spinach for supper for sure... have a great day everyone.the spinning has happened to me before, but it went away before too long. What protein are you eating before bed? okay for supper you JUST had egg whites and cucumbers? I don't think you are getting enough carbs or protein with that. I went to give blood last weekend and my iron was low as well, but that happens to me once in every 15 times... usually when I haven't been eating right. I think you need more veggies than the cucumbers. Spinach is good, I love liver but I don't make it as I buy it now and make doggie treats out of it... they would be crushed if I ate their liver.

I do know that my blood pressure has gone down since starting, but yours last night was way too low... good thing you see your doctor soon... sorry I don't really have any answers for you.

Bellamack
08-09-2011, 12:29 PM
Maybe that is why I am tired and have no energy. I have low BP to begin with ( 90/60's), I have not had it checked since starting IP. hmmm

Aunt Sheshie
08-09-2011, 12:42 PM
I was starting to get high blood pressure before I started IP last year... but after my weight loss it had dropped back to normal, 97/63... then a few weeks ago, I checked it with my dad's BP monitor (which he admitted is wrong a lot of the time) & it was back up... I'm hoping that was one of the times it was wrong, but I haven't had a chance to check it on a monitor I can trust... anyway, I didn't ever have light-headed feelings while it was lower, but that low is normal for me... please let us know how your bloodwork turns out... maybe we should all be adding liver!..

Weigh-in this afternoon with my trainer... I hope she's happy with the results... I hope I'm happy with them too!!!..

hugs :hug:

jennydoodle
08-09-2011, 12:56 PM
Lots going on here. I had my WI early and did not get into the 140's as I hoped, but by next week for sure! I am getting ready to head out of town for work travel today and tomorrow. It will be challenging, but I have done it before, and I can do it again. I have already been scoping out the food options on line for the airports I will be in and out of. I have my packets packed and plan on staying OP during this trip. I even have my running shoes packed so I can go for a run tomorrow morning. Now, whether that will happen when the alarm goes off is another story... ;)

While life on IP is definitely getting easier to manage, I still hate breaking the routine. I have a plan already mapped out for myself, and I will stick to it, but I am just kind of dreading it. Plus, flying ALWAYS makes me retain water for days and I feel so bloated. Not to mention that I do not have very good BM while I am away and that makes me feel big and bloated too. Bleh. I am just wishing I didn't have to go, but alas, duty calls and I must go.

Ok, enough wallowing. I definitely think that if you are not exercising, you should start. I have been exercising (for years) and since day 1 of IP and it has no doubt been the main contributor of my inches lost. And the more inches I lose, the "tighter" I become. I am not experiencing any sagging or lose skin, quite the opposite. I can finally see some muscle definition underneath the fat. I still have quite a ways to go in my mid-section, but my arms and legs are more toned than ever.

Here's to working my way to the 140's and being more than 1/2 way done with P1, and less than 20# from goal. :)

LOSINGFORGOOD2010
08-09-2011, 12:59 PM
the spinning has happened to me before, but it went away before too long. What protein are you eating before bed? okay for supper you JUST had egg whites and cucumbers? I don't think you are getting enough carbs or protein with that. I went to give blood last weekend and my iron was low as well, but that happens to me once in every 15 times... usually when I haven't been eating right. I think you need more veggies than the cucumbers. Spinach is good, I love liver but I don't make it as I buy it now and make doggie treats out of it... they would be crushed if I ate their liver.

I do know that my blood pressure has gone down since starting, but yours last night was way too low... good thing you see your doctor soon... sorry I don't really have any answers for you.

thanks for your reply. Well ths 'spinning ' episode lasted a good 2 hrs approx... i have sent you a private msg with more details, but it was about 1 c of egg whites and 1 whole egg thrown in and scrambled...total protein for the day was around 68 ish........ calories probably way too low @ 447

capricious
08-09-2011, 01:30 PM
Today I had Greek yogurt, raspberries, granola mixed together and 2 hardboiled eggs. I...am...full... Wow. That is a lot of food to intake when you're used to having a vanilla rtd for breakfast. But it was delicious!
Sorry to hear about your spinning troubles Losingforgood- hopefully upping the protein/ calorie count will help out...
Good luck JennyDoodle with your time away- I know what you mean about not breaking routine; it's almost unbearable to be away right now because it seems so chaotic when I go...

Lucky Chick
08-09-2011, 01:32 PM
thanks for your reply. Well ths 'spinning ' episode lasted a good 2 hrs approx... i have sent you a private msg with more details, but it was about 1 c of egg whites and 1 whole egg thrown in and scrambled...total protein for the day was around 68 ish........ calories probably way too low @ 447

When is your appointment? If you have another bout, you should probably get checked out sooner rather than later. Why wait? And be especially careful driving. If you start to 'spin', try to pull over and wait it out.

Take care of yourself. I'm sure it is probably nothing, but don't take chances. :hug:

LOSINGFORGOOD2010
08-09-2011, 01:39 PM
When is your appointment? If you have another bout, you should probably get checked out sooner rather than later. Why wait? And be especially careful driving. If you start to 'spin', try to pull over and wait it out.

Take care of yourself. I'm sure it is probably nothing, but don't take chances. :hug:

OMG as always, you all are so amazing... seriously. Thank you to all suggestions... tho I have lost a lot of weight, I always seemed to be at a low cal intake. I did not have a coach... learned some details in the beginning from a woman who did this and had success, then found this website...so obviously i am maybe, still missing out on something? amazing after all this time, and it probably explains why i stall out so many times. I will try for one - two days adding an extra packet (unrestricted) to up the protein and calories and see what happens....... maybe for a 10 am snack as I eat b.fast at 7am....yes, for a while now........ been light headed, and not 'sharp'... like I said, when I drive there are times i almost feel like I am driving under the influence...is the only way to explain it.. NOT good. :( One of my co workers said to take B12... adding it onto all the other supps I am taking..apparently it helps in the creation / maintenance of red blood cells. Dr appt is on the 19th... I am sure she will order new blood work again. I am sure its not IP's fault per se.......it is probably my fault, as I might be 'missing a step' in this whole program. But thank you thank you to all........ i mean that dearly. :)

Pxlkitty4
08-09-2011, 01:43 PM
good morning all,
I have a blood pressure question for you... thus NOT posting this on the 'newbie thread'. I have been following the 'plan' for one year now... upon some routine blood work at the doc's office about 2 mths ago, i rx'd a letter in the mail from her, telling me I am missing iron in my blood, and named a supp that I was to go pick up, take each day for 6 mths and we will check the blood again. It so happens that I have my annual check up on the 19th of this month and I am glad, because last night, my head started to spin... after eating supper, (eat whites, and cucumbers)...not after any kind of exertion. by the time I got to bed, it was spinning so fast, I felt like i was on a carnival ride, or just drank a bottle of wine. It was scary. I slept for bout 2 hrs, got up slowly and took my pressure. 3x......... averaged out to be 95/63.... too low in my opinion. Same this morning...... did some research on the net and found this: Lack of nutrients in your diet. A lack of the vitamins B-12 and folate can cause anemia, a condition in which your body doesn't produce enough red blood cells, causing low blood pressure.
I am hoping against hope that because of the duration I have been following this plan WHICH btw I love !!! that it has not upset my bloodwork... I dont know if anyone else has experienced this, or is in the health field and can explain this? just thought I would throw this out there... having liver and spinach for supper for sure... have a great day everyone.

Mine has registered at 90/60 before... I dump salt in my hand and lick it off when I feel lightheaded. I also add an additional potassium pill (dr said that was ok) on those days, and continue for a few days afterwards. I also take a Stress B (from Whole Foods) everyday... And make sure you're getting in all your Omega-3s!

Talk to the doctor, though. See if there is anything else he wants you to do.

LOSINGFORGOOD2010
08-09-2011, 01:55 PM
Mine has registered at 90/60 before... I dump salt in my hand and lick it off when I feel lightheaded. I also add an additional potassium pill (dr said that was ok) on those days, and continue for a few days afterwards. I also take a Stress B (from Whole Foods) everyday... And make sure you're getting in all your Omega-3s!

Talk to the doctor, though. See if there is anything else he wants you to do.

Thank you :) when doing eggs for supper, I will add an extra one as well...

Pxlkitty4
08-09-2011, 08:35 PM
Today I had Greek yogurt, raspberries, granola mixed together and 2 hardboiled eggs. I...am...full... Wow. That is a lot of food to intake when you're used to having a vanilla rtd for breakfast. But it was delicious!


Congratulations on Phase 3!!! Wow. That sounds like a lot of food. I can't wait!!! I stare at the yoghurt in my fridge.

Aunt Sheshie
08-09-2011, 08:37 PM
A good weigh-in today at the gym... down 5 lbs. from last Tuesday... the only thing different about my trainer's diet & what I was doing before is the 2 little servings of fruit & an occasional yogurt... so, it feels good that I'm still pretty much on IP protocol, even if it does feel like Phase Two & a Half... I'm happy with it so far... my trainer was impressed...

hugs to all... :hug:

Bellamack
08-09-2011, 08:55 PM
Losingforgood, It probably is B12. I was on an extended family vaca last summer and one night we all walked down to the beach, which was pitch black out. My SIL is a doctor and my BIL is an anestesiologist. Well, I kept falling down (and hadn't had any alcohol) and it took my husband and BIL to get me back to the condo and I told BIL that I sometimes walk crooked at night like I was drinking. He said it is neurological. So, got home and talked with doc and she covered my eyes while I was standing and I couldn't balance. She explained it doesnt happen when there is light, because my eye sight compensated. My blood test showed very low B12, which is essential for the nerve sheath. So, it was a simple inexpensive cure! Good Luck to you.

LOSINGFORGOOD2010
08-10-2011, 07:59 AM
Losingforgood, It probably is B12. I was on an extended family vaca last summer and one night we all walked down to the beach, which was pitch black out. My SIL is a doctor and my BIL is an anestesiologist. Well, I kept falling down (and hadn't had any alcohol) and it took my husband and BIL to get me back to the condo and I told BIL that I sometimes walk crooked at night like I was drinking. He said it is neurological. So, got home and talked with doc and she covered my eyes while I was standing and I couldn't balance. She explained it doesnt happen when there is light, because my eye sight compensated. My blood test showed very low B12, which is essential for the nerve sheath. So, it was a simple inexpensive cure! Good Luck to you.

wow thank you for that! Yes the other day, I was off balance at home 'all of a sudden'.........so after all the very helpful info I got off of this site yesterday, I upped my food intake as my calories have always been too low on this plan, and purchased some B12... I am feeling much better and went down 1 lb from yesterday...... Just goes to show you that no matter how long you are on this plan and on this site, you will ALWAYS keep learning... what a wealth of info we have here. Thanks everyone! Will still make sure to get that blood work done end of next week tho :carrot:

ash825
08-10-2011, 11:59 AM
First day of Phase 3 and, wowza, the breakfast is huge. I'm still stuffed. I miss my "latte" with coffee, ice and RTD vanilla. When does the bloated stuffed feeling go away?

Treena
08-10-2011, 03:25 PM
Oh good, I'm so glad I found you! (The Experienced Thread). I'm back from a 2 or 3 month hiatus, but no worries, I've stayed OP and am on Phase 2 now, finally!!! I have a few questions though. I've been losing weight at such a slow rate lately, about 1.5lbs/week, AND I've been feeling like I'm starving myself. I haven't felt this hungry since the first few weeks! Is this normal when you're close to goal?

I'm just wondering if maybe my body is running out of its "fat preserves" and maybe 125 is too low for me? My lean mass has stayed between 107 and 108, so if I weighed 125, that would put my %fat in between 13 and 14%, which is low for a woman.

Note: I'm not giving up, and I'm not trying to make an excuse to phase off sooner. Not after working this hard for so long! I just hope you can all share your expertise with me. :)

Pxlkitty4
08-10-2011, 08:08 PM
Oh good, I'm so glad I found you! (The Experienced Thread). I'm back from a 2 or 3 month hiatus, but no worries, I've stayed OP and am on Phase 2 now, finally!!! I have a few questions though. I've been losing weight at such a slow rate lately, about 1.5lbs/week, AND I've been feeling like I'm starving myself. I haven't felt this hungry since the first few weeks! Is this normal when you're close to goal?

I'm just wondering if maybe my body is running out of its "fat preserves" and maybe 125 is too low for me? My lean mass has stayed between 107 and 108, so if I weighed 125, that would put my %fat in between 13 and 14%, which is low for a woman.

Note: I'm not giving up, and I'm not trying to make an excuse to phase off sooner. Not after working this hard for so long! I just hope you can all share your expertise with me. :)

I've been much hungrier now that I'm close to goal, but I've also been A LOT more active, so I just attributed it to that. I've added a 4th packet on days that I work out or swim laps. My weight loss seems slower, but I also just noticed today that my size 8 shorts are loose! I also lost inches this past week, and I had to buy a new bra... Started at 40DD, just bought a 34DD. Woohoo!!! Talk about shrinking...

sandyh50
08-10-2011, 08:45 PM
I've been much hungrier now that I'm close to goal, but I've also been A LOT more active, so I just attributed it to that. I've added a 4th packet on days that I work out or swim laps. My weight loss seems slower, but I also just noticed today that my size 8 shorts are loose! I also lost inches this past week, and I had to buy a new bra... Started at 40DD, just bought a 34DD. Woohoo!!! Talk about shrinking...

Woohoo! Your stats are so similar to mine! I can hardly wait to get close to goal. I am debating going to 145 also! I just want to maintain my goal weight!

Pxlkitty4
08-10-2011, 09:37 PM
Woohoo! Your stats are so similar to mine! I can hardly wait to get close to goal. I am debating going to 145 also! I just want to maintain my goal weight!

Wow. We started within a pound of each other and we're the same height.

I think 145 is going to be the right number for me... I am 151.0 right now, and feel pretty firm except for a few trouble spots. I definitely need to build muscle too, so I'm hoping to level out around 10lbs more of fat gone, and 5lbs muscle built. We'll see... Keep it up. You'll be there before you know it!

Pxlkitty4
08-11-2011, 09:18 AM
This morning the scale said 150.0! I'm almost out of the dreaded 150s... YAY!

LOSINGFORGOOD2010
08-11-2011, 10:19 AM
well..........just placed another order through Nashua.... as the prices and food is soo good. HOWEVER the shipping they charged me today was 28$ for 5 boxes. 4 boxes were honey nut cherrio style cereal.. and one oatmeal! wth? a couple of months ago I ordered 6 boxes one being protein bars MUCH heavier...and the shipping was 22$...... ??????????? top that off with each time it arrives Cda Post comes a calling to my front door requesting 12-15$ of customs fees well $$$$$ all that extra I may as well purchase a box of IP :(
I called and the woman could not figure it out, but 'will talk to the owner' was the best she could do... sorry JUST HAD TO VENT ...... sigh have a great day everyone

jennydoodle
08-11-2011, 12:46 PM
Back from my travels and glad to be home. It was definitely challenging, but I make it out unscathed! :) Jumped on the scale for a little peak and saw the most incredible #: 149.2. WAHOO! I am definitely (finally!) into the 140's and more than 1/2 through P1 AND less than 20# to goal. Gosh, that feels good!

I had a little a-ha moment this week while traveling. I was stuck in Atlanta airport for several hours and if you have even been there, it is like the best food court ever, on steroids. I was lamenting a little bit (and feeling a bit sorry for myself) over not being able to have a "junky" snack. I would have loved to have an ice cream ;) Well, as I was walking around the terminal, I noticed that my jeans I was wearing were starting to feel lose, and I was feeling pretty good about myself and feeling skinny and confident and then I realized that it was BECAUSE I couldn't have the ice cream that I was feeling this good. If I wasn't on IP, I would have definitely indulged. And I wouldn't be as thin as I am and I wouldn't be wearing jeans that are getting too big for me. In fact, I would probably still be miserable because nothing in my closet would fit me because I was too big for them. I felt better after this revelation, and just wanted to share with you.

Oh- and someone called me skinny :)

brandam6
08-11-2011, 01:02 PM
Wowee, alot has happened since I was on here last week!

I am starting maintenance today!! I am finishing 2 lbs over my goal. I think that the little bit of extra weight last week was the glycogen (sp?) stores coming back into my muscles, because it was still there this week. I was down a teeny tiny bit from last week. I am counting this week as a victory.

One thing I learned from Phase 3, is that even though I hate eating breakfast, I feel better all day when I do. I skipped it Sunday, and by the evening I felt tired and like I wanted to eat everything in the house. I guess they don't say "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" for nothing.

I finally remembered to go get blood drawn and have my thyroid re-checked. Losing 60 lbs has probably affected the dose of the Synthroid I should be taking. Should know in a couple of days. But I know there are alot of people on here that are hypothyroid, so don't forget to get it checked periodically as the weight is coming off.


First day of Phase 3 and, wowza, the breakfast is huge. I'm still stuffed. I miss my "latte" with coffee, ice and RTD vanilla. When does the bloated stuffed feeling go away?

Congrats on Phase 3!! I found I didn't feel so bloated if I ate cereal, yogurt and an apple. I was eating my version of an egg mcmuffin (with eggbeaters and a slice of cheese), and while it was yummy I felt bloated. I think I do better with cold breakfasts.

Oh good, I'm so glad I found you! (The Experienced Thread). I'm back from a 2 or 3 month hiatus, but no worries, I've stayed OP and am on Phase 2 now, finally!!! I have a few questions though. I've been losing weight at such a slow rate lately, about 1.5lbs/week, AND I've been feeling like I'm starving myself. I haven't felt this hungry since the first few weeks! Is this normal when you're close to goal?

I'm just wondering if maybe my body is running out of its "fat preserves" and maybe 125 is too low for me? My lean mass has stayed between 107 and 108, so if I weighed 125, that would put my %fat in between 13 and 14%, which is low for a woman.

Note: I'm not giving up, and I'm not trying to make an excuse to phase off sooner. Not after working this hard for so long! I just hope you can all share your expertise with me. :)

Congrats to you! I was wondering where you went! I don't think anyone thinks you are giving up. I changed my goal weight from 140 to 150, and now I have settled into 152. It is a personal decision on when to stop, and ultimately, we are the ones that have to live with and maintain the weight that we choose. As long as you feel good that's what matters!

I got hungrier towards the end. I thought it was just me.

This morning the scale said 150.0! I'm almost out of the dreaded 150s... YAY!

Woohoo!!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-11-2011, 02:52 PM
Been mad busy today, serves me right for taking yesterday off... just a little nuts here... It is nice to be missed but really...

Congrats Ash, Pxlkitty, Treena, Brandam you are doing so awesome... I can't wait... it feels right now that all the people that were on or started before and after me are all on maintenance or in phase 2 and 3... I congratulate you all but am a little jealous.. but just a little. I am bootcamping this week just to shake things up. On monday I had Blueberry/cran drink for breakfast and a spinach salad and peach mango/rasp jelly for lunch and I was just starved... for supper I had a nice catfish fillet... Finally found some good asparagus yesterday so that is my lunch today and maybe for supper too... can't decide... has anyone ever bbq'd Kohlrabi? I love bbq but it is mostly meat I do so kind of scared about grilling veg. Grilled some tuesday night in a pan, had zucchini and celery with Gyro Mediterainian dressing... it was okay but...tonight bbq turkey sliders for lettuce burgers can't wait. must be lunch time I am obsessing about food.
NSV - can wear size 7/8 now on some things.. I have NEVER worn that before... makes me happy...
Have a great day everyone. :hug:

M0vingon
08-11-2011, 03:07 PM
Been mad busy today, serves me right for taking yesterday off... just a little nuts here... It is nice to be missed but really...

Congrats Ash, Pxlkitty, Treena, Brandam you are doing so awesome... I can't wait... it feels right now that all the people that were on or started before and after me are all on maintenance or in phase 2 and 3... I congratulate you all but am a little jealous.. but just a little. I am bootcamping this week just to shake things up. On monday I had Blueberry/cran drink for breakfast and a spinach salad and peach mango/rasp jelly for lunch and I was just starved... for supper I had a nice catfish fillet... Finally found some good asparagus yesterday so that is my lunch today and maybe for supper too... can't decide... has anyone ever bbq'd Kohlrabi? I love bbq but it is mostly meat I do so kind of scared about grilling veg. Grilled some tuesday night in a pan, had zucchini and celery with Gyro Mediterainian dressing... it was okay but...tonight bbq turkey sliders for lettuce burgers can't wait. must be lunch time I am obsessing about food.
NSV - can wear size 7/8 now on some things.. I have NEVER worn that before... makes me happy...
Have a great day everyone. :hug:

Congrats on the size 7/8s! I hope your day off was restful.
I can relate to feeling envious about all of those who are moving to other phases. I've been doing IP for 4 mos and it feel like I'll have 4 more to go! I should have started this in the winter when there are no good summer fruits to feel I'm missing out on :)
All of your food talk has me obsessing now too! Good luck with bootcamp. I hope it brings you a nice big loss next week!

capricious
08-11-2011, 04:07 PM
Happy Thursday everyone!
I'm preparing today for camping this weekend. While we have an RV we're camping in a spot that doesn't have hookups for power/ water so I'm planning on Tuna, hard boiled eggs and things that can be BBQ'd ;)
Congrats JennyDoodle on your ah- ha moment and hitting the 140's!!! It is totally worth it to forgo the ice cream and achieve your goals!
2Ride- You're doing great, I remember when I first started on here you were hovering around the 200 mark- and now you're looking to break into the 160's! And a size 7/ 8 already! I didn't hit that until I got closer to 150- so good for you :carrot::carrot: Maintenance will be there before you know it and it will taste all the sweeter for how far you had to come...
Congrats BrandAm on Maintenance- I'll see you there shortly :)
Pxlkitty have you hit the 140's yet?? Fingers crossed for you!!

longdivision
08-11-2011, 08:05 PM
i get to start phase 3 tomorrow. i am so excited/nervous! i'll let you guys know how i feel after the very first big breakfast!!

Pxlkitty4
08-11-2011, 09:09 PM
Congrats Ash, Pxlkitty, Treena, Brandam you are doing so awesome... I can't wait... it feels right now that all the people that were on or started before and after me are all on maintenance or in phase 2 and 3...

I'm still on Phase 1! I know it seems like a lot of people are moving on... I'm not, though. Still a while to go for me. I'm going to get this weight off NOW.



I can relate to feeling envious about all of those who are moving to other phases. I've been doing IP for 4 mos and it feel like I'll have 4 more to go!

I feel like I've been doing the program forever. Aug 25th will be 6 months. I can't believe it's gone so slowly and so quickly, all at the same time!

Pxlkitty have you hit the 140's yet?? Fingers crossed for you!!

ALMOST! I will report back tomorrow morning. I ordered chinese for dinner, so I doubt I'll make it tomorrow because I will have sodium bloat. i don't care, though. They took enough blood from me today during my physical that I might weigh less just because I'm missing it!

2RIDE - your comment about donating blood to the mosquitoes made me laugh out loud. I wish you the best with boot camp.

Bellamack
08-11-2011, 09:26 PM
i get to start phase 3 tomorrow. i am so excited/nervous! i'll let you guys know how i feel after the very first big breakfast!!

EXITING! You better let us know :)

Determinedat47
08-11-2011, 10:32 PM
I dunno if I count as an old timer anymore but I have put about 8 months into IP between before my pregnancy and now :)

I enjoy this thread because it's not the same questions over and over again because no one takes a moment to read the sticky's before asking their questions :)

Anyway I hope you all don't mind if I crash this thread from now on...even though I've only been kicking aroun for a couple months!

Man, I totally agree with you Jordanna. There should be an experienced daily thread. Gets frustrating hearing the " I am so frustrated I only lost 10-15 pounds this month, what am I doing wrong" question. Can't imagine being unhappy with those losses:smug:

Pxlkitty4
08-11-2011, 10:41 PM
Man, I totally agree with you Jordanna. There should be an experienced daily thread. Gets frustrating hearing the " I am so frustrated I only lost 10-15 pounds this month, what am I doing wrong" question. Can't imagine being unhappy with those losses:smug:

You'll notice that I updated the opening of the daily thread to say "please read the sticky page"... not that anyone will, but at least I tried. Just hang out here with us. I don't know that we need it to be daily, but we can definitely make this one more active.

Determinedat47
08-11-2011, 10:51 PM
and Longdiv and Cap --

I hear the last 10 lbs are the hardest ever and you have to buckle down really hard on them... that just scares me... also phase 2 scares me... I know it can be done successfully but it is the unknown that is scary... I think you 3 are going to do great. You are all so skinny now... I just can't wait... have a great day.

Don't let phase 2 scare you. Having meat at 2 meals is really great- makes a huge difference. I feel like I will eat phase 2 like most of the time in the future, even after phasing off. I feel so good and have been eating phase 2 for about 2 months. I was just getting too hungry on phase 1 so my coach switched me to phase 2. I think I am at goal- my coach will weigh me on Monday and then I plan on doing phase 3, and then back to phase 2 with my cheat day each week. Definetely doable for me.

Pxlkitty4
08-11-2011, 11:14 PM
I'm working on a Phase 3 breakfast document. Please feel free to move these recipes over to the table format if you have time. I have pasted a few empty tables here and there and will work on this as I have time. I will also work to create some new ones that have US ingredients. Some of these brands I don't recognize, but I'm sure I can find things that are close.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VwjJuknRsEBy49IrjHX51ipC6JKO5LQdjDFBlTTX-Ro/edit?hl=en_US

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-11-2011, 11:20 PM
Don't let phase 2 scare you. Having meat at 2 meals is really great- makes a huge difference. I feel like I will eat phase 2 like most of the time in the future, even after phasing off. I feel so good and have been eating phase 2 for about 2 months. I was just getting too hungry on phase 1 so my coach switched me to phase 2. I think I am at goal- my coach will weigh me on Monday and then I plan on doing phase 3, and then back to phase 2 with my cheat day each week. Definetely doable for me. I think the biggest thing about phase 2 is the second protein at lunch... I didn't use to eat a lot of meat usually once a day or every couple of days... so that will take a little to get use to... but I do have a plan, spinach salads with eggs and a tuna salad at work.. then at home who knows... I have been discussing my weight with my friend at work (our dogs kissed each other in beginner agility and the rest is history) as my "new" coach thinks I might be at my body weight now... I always thought of her as skinny but she says when she isn't pregnant and toned she is in the 160s but she is also a couple inches taller then me. I just don't think I am there yet, as I still have spots that are still big... I keep saying I will know when I get there, I sure hope I do know... Have a great night.

Linden if you are around.. my friend doesn't know what her dog is... she has to ask her husband, she thinns cockapoo... but not sure...:D

brandam6
08-11-2011, 11:24 PM
i get to start phase 3 tomorrow. i am so excited/nervous! i'll let you guys know how i feel after the very first big breakfast!!

YAY! Congrats!

brandam6
08-11-2011, 11:57 PM
Congrats Ash, Pxlkitty, Treena, Brandam you are doing so awesome... I can't wait... it feels right now that all the people that were on or started before and after me are all on maintenance or in phase 2 and 3... I congratulate you all but am a little jealous.. but just a little.

NSV - can wear size 7/8 now on some things.. I have NEVER worn that before... makes me happy...
Have a great day everyone. :hug:


I can relate to feeling envious about all of those who are moving to other phases. I've been doing IP for 4 mos and it feel like I'll have 4 more to go! I should have started this in the winter when there are no good summer fruits to feel I'm missing out on :)


I'm still on Phase 1! I know it seems like a lot of people are moving on... I'm not, though. Still a while to go for me. I'm going to get this weight off NOW.

I feel like I've been doing the program forever. Aug 25th will be 6 months. I can't believe it's gone so slowly and so quickly, all at the same time!


I'm sorry, it was not my intent to cause any envy. You all will be with me soon! You guys have done so well. And I must admit I am a little envious of Pxlkitty and her seeing the 140's soon, almost makes me want to keep going. If only I wasn't going going to Vegas next week, I may have tried to get to the 140's with you.

I just hit my 6 month mark the other day. When I started this I only thought I would be doing this for 3-4 months tops. And I didn't really know where I would end up as far as weight. I am not sure that I really thought I would see it all the way through. I don't think that I would have, with out everyone on this forum. Whether anyone realized it or not, you guys were big motivators for me. It helped me so much to see all of you sticking to it, and struggling, and sharing SV's and NSV's. It really showed me that I could do it, too. I also knew that no one would understand how elated I was to move from Phase to Phase more than you guys. Thanks for everything.

I don't mean to be sappy (I can almost hear the music in the background, too bad we can't attach sound), I just wanted to say it.

capricious
08-12-2011, 12:04 AM
i get to start phase 3 tomorrow. i am so excited/nervous! i'll let you guys know how i feel after the very first big breakfast!!
Congrats on moving onto Phase 3!!! Let us know how brekkie goes...:D

Don't let phase 2 scare you. Having meat at 2 meals is really great- makes a huge difference. I feel like I will eat phase 2 like most of the time in the future, even after phasing off. I feel so good and have been eating phase 2 for about 2 months. I was just getting too hungry on phase 1 so my coach switched me to phase 2. I think I am at goal- my coach will weigh me on Monday and then I plan on doing phase 3, and then back to phase 2 with my cheat day each week. Definetely doable for me.
So happy for you that you're almost at goal Determined and I can't believe you spent 2 months in Phase 2- and liked it, no less- I was kind of the reverse... Way hungrier in Phase 2 than Phase 1... I'm loving the Phase 3 breakfast (now that I've had a whopping 3 of them :D) so I think I'll try to stick close to Phase 3 when I'm in maintenance...

I'm working on a Phase 3 breakfast document. Please feel free to move these recipes over to the table format if you have time. I have pasted a few empty tables here and there and will work on this as I have time. I will also work to create some new ones that have US ingredients. Some of these brands I don't recognize, but I'm sure I can find things that are close.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VwjJuknRsEBy49IrjHX51ipC6JKO5LQdjDFBlTTX-Ro/edit?hl=en_US
Thanks Pxlkitty!

capricious
08-12-2011, 12:17 AM
When I started this I only thought I would be doing this for 3-4 months tops. And I didn't really know where I would end up as far as weight. I am not sure that I really thought I would see it all the way through. I don't think that I would have, with out everyone on this forum. Whether anyone realized it or not, you guys were big motivators for me. It helped me so much to see all of you sticking to it, and struggling, and sharing SV's and NSV's. It really showed me that I could do it, too. I also knew that no one would understand how elated I was to move from Phase to Phase more than you guys. Thanks for everything.

I don't mean to be sappy (I can almost hear the music in the background, too bad we can't attach sound), I just wanted to say it.
This is a big DITTO from me- right down to the sappy music in the background... Thank you all... very happy to be where I am right now- and absolutely couldn't think of a better group to be heading into maintenance with...

MInewgoal
08-12-2011, 09:35 AM
Well..I haven't disappeared. I'm still here, and with the ones of you nearing the end of our journeys. Personally I'm struggling. It's not the diet...though, I've struggled with that too because of it.

I don't think I've told the complete issues here, but most of you know that I am looking for a new job. I had an interview on Wednesday, that I don't feel I did the best on, because I need this job. I need this job, because it will allow me to be able to support my children with child support. Otherwise..I will be working at McDonalds, plus my nanny position..to just support me, and I'll have to leave them with their father.

I am up 2 pounds this week, and it's stress and off protocols fault. I'm on day 2 of being OP, and it amazes me how hard it is. The first time I didn't struggle at all, but I think that had a lot to do with Mind set. I was ready for this! And it was a blessing/gift. Now it's still a blessing and a gift, but I don't have the Mind set any more. So I'm working on it.

Treena
08-12-2011, 10:01 AM
I've been much hungrier now that I'm close to goal, but I've also been A LOT more active, so I just attributed it to that. I've added a 4th packet on days that I work out or swim laps. My weight loss seems slower, but I also just noticed today that my size 8 shorts are loose! I also lost inches this past week, and I had to buy a new bra... Started at 40DD, just bought a 34DD. Woohoo!!! Talk about shrinking...

I've been a lot more active, too, and I'm sure that's a big part of it. My coach had me add an extra protein (before I started working out) because I was losing muscle, so then I had to add ANOTHER protein when I started working out. I think that's why I wonder why I'm still hungry, after eating so much! It sounds like it's a normal thing anyway, near the end. Congrats on your measurements, and being at 150! The only place to go from there is the 140s! :)

I am starting maintenance today!! I am finishing 2 lbs over my goal. I think that the little bit of extra weight last week was the glycogen (sp?) stores coming back into my muscles, because it was still there this week. I was down a teeny tiny bit from last week. I am counting this week as a victory.

One thing I learned from Phase 3, is that even though I hate eating breakfast, I feel better all day when I do. I skipped it Sunday, and by the evening I felt tired and like I wanted to eat everything in the house. I guess they don't say "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" for nothing.

I finally remembered to go get blood drawn and have my thyroid re-checked. Losing 60 lbs has probably affected the dose of the Synthroid I should be taking. Should know in a couple of days. But I know there are alot of people on here that are hypothyroid, so don't forget to get it checked periodically as the weight is coming off.
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Congrats to you! I was wondering where you went! I don't think anyone thinks you are giving up. I changed my goal weight from 140 to 150, and now I have settled into 152. It is a personal decision on when to stop, and ultimately, we are the ones that have to live with and maintain the weight that we choose. As long as you feel good that's what matters!

I got hungrier towards the end. I thought it was just me.

I've been on earth, promise! Haha. I stopped having time to get online for a while (I can only get online at work), and then when I was able to again, I just didn't. Thanks for the reassurance though, I really appreciate it! I only mentioned that I wasn't giving up because I didn't want anyone assuming I was complaining and ready to stop. My body is telling me that I'm really close, but I still have a bit left. We'll see if I need to get all the way to 125. I know that I have been 115 before, but that was from "poor dieting," I had obviously lost a lot of muscle, and gained all that weight back pretty quickly.

So you're on maintanence, huh?? Woohoo!! How inspiring! :) I'm still working my way towards phase 3, can't wait for those yummy breakfasts lol. Congrats!!!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST: Girl, I'm jealous you lost 71lbs in 5 or 6 months! ;) Congrats on the 7/8's. Go you! You've gotten so far since you started!

Longdivision Hope you enjoyed your 1st Phase 3 breakfast today!! Let us know!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-12-2011, 10:50 AM
Well..I haven't disappeared. I'm still here, and with the ones of you nearing the end of our journeys. Personally I'm struggling. It's not the diet...though, I've struggled with that too because of it.

I don't think I've told the complete issues here, but most of you know that I am looking for a new job. I had an interview on Wednesday, that I don't feel I did the best on, because I need this job. I need this job, because it will allow me to be able to support my children with child support. Otherwise..I will be working at McDonalds, plus my nanny position..to just support me, and I'll have to leave them with their father.

I am up 2 pounds this week, and it's stress and off protocols fault. I'm on day 2 of being OP, and it amazes me how hard it is. The first time I didn't struggle at all, but I think that had a lot to do with Mind set. I was ready for this! And it was a blessing/gift. Now it's still a blessing and a gift, but I don't have the Mind set any more. So I'm working on it.I hope you get the job, usually the ones where I think I interview bad I get an offer... hopefully it will be the same for you. Life really does suck some times, I took a day off this week to get away from life, the sad thing is it is still there biting you in the *** when you turn around. I have been stressing a little right now too and I don't think that is really helping me either. I really really hope everything works out for you as you have come so far and you are so strong to be going through what you are. It is a gift but sometimes it is just HARD! Here is to hearing you got the job, or if not that one the one you are meant to have.

Brandam - it wasn't all you, I think I am just envious of everyone getting so close to their goals and I just had to have a little...:tantrum::tantrum: now I feel better, I am so proud of you all and I love hearing how the different phases are working. So please keep the news coming, I am living it through you.:hug:


I've been a lot more active, too, and I'm sure that's a big part of it. My coach had me add an extra protein (before I started working out) because I was losing muscle, so then I had to add ANOTHER protein when I started working out. I think that's why I wonder why I'm still hungry, after eating so much! It sounds like it's a normal thing anyway, near the end. Congrats on your measurements, and being at 150! The only place to go from there is the 140s! :)



I've been on earth, promise! Haha. I stopped having time to get online for a while (I can only get online at work), and then when I was able to again, I just didn't. Thanks for the reassurance though, I really appreciate it! I only mentioned that I wasn't giving up because I didn't want anyone assuming I was complaining and ready to stop. My body is telling me that I'm really close, but I still have a bit left. We'll see if I need to get all the way to 125. I know that I have been 115 before, but that was from "poor dieting," I had obviously lost a lot of muscle, and gained all that weight back pretty quickly.

So you're on maintanence, huh?? Woohoo!! How inspiring! :) I'm still working my way towards phase 3, can't wait for those yummy breakfasts lol. Congrats!!!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST: Girl, I'm jealous you lost 71lbs in 5 or 6 months! ;) Congrats on the 7/8's. Go you! You've gotten so far since you started!

Longdivision Hope you enjoyed your 1st Phase 3 breakfast today!! Let us know!Treena, we did miss you... I am glad you have done so well. I promise I won't be jealous for long, just one of those days... I am better now and I have to be I am wearing size 8 jeans with little purple detail down the legs and pockets with a purple T to match... How could a Friday start any better... am excited for you all and myself as I know this week I will see the 75 lost, and maybe a little more. Been doing good, no restricted and splenda extra drinks, no cauliflower or peppers or broccoli but will have to add extra next week like Jordanna suggested... can't wait. Have chicken marinating in hot sauce for tonight, Life is good so far today.:D

brummie
08-12-2011, 12:01 PM
Well..I haven't disappeared. I'm still here, and with the ones of you nearing the end of our journeys. Personally I'm struggling. It's not the diet...though, I've struggled with that too because of it.

I don't think I've told the complete issues here, but most of you know that I am looking for a new job. I had an interview on Wednesday, that I don't feel I did the best on, because I need this job. I need this job, because it will allow me to be able to support my children with child support. Otherwise..I will be working at McDonalds, plus my nanny position..to just support me, and I'll have to leave them with their father.

I am up 2 pounds this week, and it's stress and off protocols fault. I'm on day 2 of being OP, and it amazes me how hard it is. The first time I didn't struggle at all, but I think that had a lot to do with Mind set. I was ready for this! And it was a blessing/gift. Now it's still a blessing and a gift, but I don't have the Mind set any more. So I'm working on it.

Minewgoal - over the past few months, you have inspired and provided support to so many people. I hope that you can find even a small part of that support back as you struggle through this difficult time!

So, after one week on phase 2 (and another 2 lbs down), my coach and I decided that I should move into phase 3. So today will be my first day on phase 3. funny thing is, last night I was so excited, wrote down my breakfast menus for the week...popped out and picked up some berries and yogurt. Now here I am, got up about 30 minutes ago and the idea of eating breakfast (instead of just drinking a shake) is really grossing me out. I wasn't a breakfast eater before (which was a major part of my weight problem) - so i REALLY have to get my head around this.
Hubby left early for work this morning...but I think he picked up on my excitement about breakfast last night, because he has left the toaster out, with the bread next to it and bowl of washed and prepped berries. what a doll!
Deciding to go to phase 3 was a lot easier than I thought it would be. There is no doubt in my mind that another 5 - 10lbs lost would probably be great, but I really like where I am at now (plus, I think that in all honesty, I'll always want to lose another 5lbs, even if I was at a perfect weight! My sisters are thin, but always seem to want to lose weight...I just don't want to be like that). I mentioned before that my face is starting to look a little gaunt, seems like I'm the only one who thinks so. But, I honestly don't think I'll be happy if I lose anymore.
thanks for letting me share....I'm going to venture back into the kitchen now and get me some eats!

longdivision
08-12-2011, 02:56 PM
So, after one week on phase 2 (and another 2 lbs down), my coach and I decided that I should move into phase 3. So today will be my first day on phase 3. funny thing is, last night I was so excited, wrote down my breakfast menus for the week...popped out and picked up some berries and yogurt. Now here I am, got up about 30 minutes ago and the idea of eating breakfast (instead of just drinking a shake) is really grossing me out. I wasn't a breakfast eater before (which was a major part of my weight problem) - so i REALLY have to get my head around this.
Hubby left early for work this morning...but I think he picked up on my excitement about breakfast last night, because he has left the toaster out, with the bread next to it and bowl of washed and prepped berries. what a doll!
Deciding to go to phase 3 was a lot easier than I thought it would be. There is no doubt in my mind that another 5 - 10lbs lost would probably be great, but I really like where I am at now (plus, I think that in all honesty, I'll always want to lose another 5lbs, even if I was at a perfect weight! My sisters are thin, but always seem to want to lose weight...I just don't want to be like that). I mentioned before that my face is starting to look a little gaunt, seems like I'm the only one who thinks so. But, I honestly don't think I'll be happy if I lose anymore.
thanks for letting me share....I'm going to venture back into the kitchen now and get me some eats!

yay! we start phase 3 on the same day!!! congrats!!

ok, so this morning i weighed 144! this made me so happy because i lost ZERO weight in all of phase 2. and truth be told, until now, i had only lost 3 lbs in the last month. super frustrating! but 144 is one pound below my goal. i had been at 146.4 for the last 3 weeks. no fun. but now i am happy.

ok, so breakfast...
2 eggs
2 pieces of bread (found this awesome whole grain/low carb bread at Trader Joes. serving size is 2 slices, 50 cals per slice, 6 net carbs per slice!)
1 tbsp fat free cream cheese
.5 cup greek yogurt
.5 cup non-fat cottage cheese
2/3 cup whole strawberries

totals were:
500 calories
16.5g fat
58g protein
grain carbs - 18g (total, not net)
dairy carbs - 10.5g (total, not net)
fruit carbs - 13g (total, not net)

it took me an entire hour to eat all of that food. i was not a fan of the greek yogurt. it was very... bitter? sour? strong? anyhow, the strawberries didn't help because they are on the tart side as well. i have to find a way to make the yogurt taste better because it contains most of the protein, so i will need to eat it. maybe i'll add some splenda or S/F torani syrups next time.

anyhow, my tummy feels weird. like it's not sure what to do with all of this food that i just put in it. interesting...

brummie
08-12-2011, 03:39 PM
yay! we start phase 3 on the same day!!! congrats!!

ok, so this morning i weighed 144! this made me so happy because i lost ZERO weight in all of phase 2. and truth be told, until now, i had only lost 3 lbs in the last month. super frustrating! but 144 is one pound below my goal. i had been at 146.4 for the last 3 weeks. no fun. but now i am happy.

ok, so breakfast...
2 eggs
2 pieces of bread (found this awesome whole grain/low carb bread at Trader Joes. serving size is 2 slices, 50 cals per slice, 6 net carbs per slice!)
1 tbsp fat free cream cheese
.5 cup greek yogurt
.5 cup non-fat cottage cheese
2/3 cup whole strawberries

totals were:
500 calories
16.5g fat
58g protein
grain carbs - 18g (total, not net)
dairy carbs - 10.5g (total, not net)
fruit carbs - 13g (total, not net)

it took me an entire hour to eat all of that food. i was not a fan of the greek yogurt. it was very... bitter? sour? strong? anyhow, the strawberries didn't help because they are on the tart side as well. i have to find a way to make the yogurt taste better because it contains most of the protein, so i will need to eat it. maybe i'll add some splenda or S/F torani syrups next time.

anyhow, my tummy feels weird. like it's not sure what to do with all of this food that i just put in it. interesting...

Yay, I'm glad there are a few of us starting phase 3 at the same time!!
I didn't think I would be able to eat it all this morning, but I did it! I felt a little tummy upset during the drive to work, but I feel better now that I've had 3 glasses of water.
Here's what I had:
2 eggs (scrambled)
2 slices of whole wheat toast (I grind my own flour and make my own bread...I can't tell you how good it felt to finally be able to eat it again!)
1 cup of greek yogurt
3 strips of bacon
1 cup strawberries
1 Tbsp Peanut Butter

So I had eggs and bacon on one toast and peanut butter on the other.
The hardest part for me was the yogurt also, but I added the strawberries to it (and a dash of splenda) - it was still kinda gross, but I ate it.
I am going to make my own batch of yogurt tonite - this will be the first time I am using the greek yogurt as a starter - I was thinking of adding vanilla and splenda to it to sweeten it up a bit. I'll let you know how it goes. I love making my own yogurt.

Have a great day everyone!!

Treena
08-12-2011, 03:43 PM
it took me an entire hour to eat all of that food. i was not a fan of the greek yogurt. it was very... bitter? sour? strong? anyhow, the strawberries didn't help because they are on the tart side as well. i have to find a way to make the yogurt taste better because it contains most of the protein, so i will need to eat it. maybe i'll add some splenda or S/F torani syrups next time.

anyhow, my tummy feels weird. like it's not sure what to do with all of this food that i just put in it. interesting...

Ugh! You poor thing, the greek yogurt tastes like sour cream if you don't add a couple bags of splenda or stevia to it. It'll make such a huge difference! I'm still on phase 2, but my girlfriend is on phase 4 and eats this stuff almost every day. I admit to maybe having tried a teaspoon of it the first time she got it. :p I can't remember what the ratio is. She has a full cup of it, and I think she adds 2 splenda and her fruit. When I'm on P3, I'm thinking about adding some strawberry or blueberry WF syrup to it, myself.

Better luck next time! Looks like you did a great job measuring everything, that's one thing I worry about when I eventually go to phases 3 and 4, is not measuring the portions of carbs, protein, fat, and calories properly! Congrats on the new small scale number, too. :) My guess about the weird tummy feeling is exactly what you said - it's probably thinking, "It's been so long... what do I do again??" Haha. We're retraining our bodies, after all!

longdivision
08-12-2011, 03:53 PM
Ugh! You poor thing, the greek yogurt tastes like sour cream if you don't add a couple bags of splenda or stevia to it. It'll make such a huge difference! I'm still on phase 2, but my girlfriend is on phase 4 and eats this stuff almost every day. I admit to maybe having tried a teaspoon of it the first time she got it. :p I can't remember what the ratio is. She has a full cup of it, and I think she adds 2 splenda and her fruit. When I'm on P3, I'm thinking about adding some strawberry or blueberry WF syrup to it, myself.

Better luck next time! Looks like you did a great job measuring everything, that's one thing I worry about when I eventually go to phases 3 and 4, is not measuring the portions of carbs, protein, fat, and calories properly! Congrats on the new small scale number, too. :) My guess about the weird tummy feeling is exactly what you said - it's probably thinking, "It's been so long... what do I do again??" Haha. We're retraining our bodies, after all!

yeah, i will have to try it again tomorrow with splenda. it seriously does taste like eating sour cream that has gone bad. yuck, yuck, yuck. i couldn't even eat it all. the bad part is that i have to eat it because i can't get much protein from anything else, being a vegetarian and all. sometimes my life would just be so much more easy if i ate meat!!!

JackieGee
08-12-2011, 03:53 PM
I love greek yogurt with a packet of splenda and a bit of almond or vanilla extract. Then I top it with strawberries or raspberries. Or I will again when I get to that phase.

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-12-2011, 04:03 PM
Brummie and LongDiv.... that is great news, I am glad you have each other starting at the same time.... Brummie, peanut butter that must taste really good... can't wait... That is the only thing I really miss... but I use to make everything with peanut butter... will have to re program my brain not to over due the peanut butter. Congrats and this is just so great for both of you. I have never had greek yogurt either, it is good to know it isn't very good.

jordanna
08-12-2011, 04:16 PM
I like Greek yogurt with a drizzle of honey, granola and blueberries (reason #872 why I'm a fat kid!)

Lucky Chick
08-12-2011, 04:31 PM
Don't give up on Greek yogurt! There are some brands that are so much better than others. I like the Fage 0% a lot. It is super creamy and when I add my blueberries right to the yogurt it goes down great. I used to eat it with honey like Jordanna said, but I haven't since I went into maintenance. I have it just about every day in order to get enough protein.

Congrats on phase 3 (and 2!) to those of you transitioning! Enjoy the change in routine.

Linden
08-12-2011, 05:25 PM
Linden if you are around.. my friend doesn't know what her dog is... she has to ask her husband, she thinns cockapoo... but not sure...:D

I don't know . . . hum? Whatever it is it sure is adorable; kind of, sorta like, a tiny spaniel? But then my Papillon is a sort of spaniel, too, but doesn't look like one unless you flatten his butterfly ears. (His name on the street is die Fledermaus, but said with affection.)

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-12-2011, 05:31 PM
I don't know . . . hum? Whatever it is it sure is adorable; kind of, sorta like, a tiny spaniel? But then my Papillon is a sort of spaniel, too, but doesn't look like one unless you flatten his butterfly ears. (His name on the street is die Fledermaus, but said with affection.)aw that is cute. I am trying to get a picture of my dogs together but every time I pull out my camera or my phone my black dog goes and hides... she is very camera shy... soon.

Linden
08-12-2011, 05:52 PM
i was not a fan of the greek yogurt. it was very... bitter? sour? strong? anyhow, the strawberries didn't help because they are on the tart side as well. .

Laura, here's a yogurt, made in San Francisco, and hands down the best I've ever eaten -- both taste and consistency. http://www.pavels.net/about/ It's a Russian yogurt. And yes, do doctor it a little with Splenda or stevia if you don't like a tart taste. I sure hope you like this.

Pxlkitty4
08-12-2011, 06:10 PM
Has anyone tried skyr yogurt? I've seen it all over NYC... I haven't seen it here yet, but I just checked their website and it looks like Whole Foods has it.


www(dot)skyr (dot)com. (in case they delete my link below)

For flavored yogurt, the carb count looks relatively low.
http://www.skyr.com/skyr.html

longdivision
08-12-2011, 06:22 PM
Laura, here's a yogurt, made in San Francisco, and hands down the best I've ever eaten -- both taste and consistency. http://www.pavels.net/about/ It's a Russian yogurt. And yes, do doctor it a little with Splenda or stevia if you don't like a tart taste. I sure hope you like this.

ooh, i will pick some of this up next time i go to safeway. thanks!!

jennydoodle
08-12-2011, 06:25 PM
yay! we start phase 3 on the same day!!! congrats!!

ok, so this morning i weighed 144! this made me so happy because i lost ZERO weight in all of phase 2. and truth be told, until now, i had only lost 3 lbs in the last month. super frustrating! but 144 is one pound below my goal. i had been at 146.4 for the last 3 weeks. no fun. but now i am happy.

ok, so breakfast...
2 eggs
2 pieces of bread (found this awesome whole grain/low carb bread at Trader Joes. serving size is 2 slices, 50 cals per slice, 6 net carbs per slice!)
1 tbsp fat free cream cheese
.5 cup greek yogurt
.5 cup non-fat cottage cheese
2/3 cup whole strawberries

totals were:
500 calories
16.5g fat
58g protein
grain carbs - 18g (total, not net)
dairy carbs - 10.5g (total, not net)
fruit carbs - 13g (total, not net)

it took me an entire hour to eat all of that food. i was not a fan of the greek yogurt. it was very... bitter? sour? strong? anyhow, the strawberries didn't help because they are on the tart side as well. i have to find a way to make the yogurt taste better because it contains most of the protein, so i will need to eat it. maybe i'll add some splenda or S/F torani syrups next time.

anyhow, my tummy feels weird. like it's not sure what to do with all of this food that i just put in it. interesting...

Add Stevia to the Greek yogurt. Also, I have the best tasting brand of Greek yogurt to be "Fage" 2%.

woolberger
08-12-2011, 09:07 PM
yay! we start phase 3 on the same day!!! congrats!!

ok, so this morning i weighed 144! this made me so happy because i lost ZERO weight in all of phase 2. and truth be told, until now, i had only lost 3 lbs in the last month. super frustrating! but 144 is one pound below my goal. i had been at 146.4 for the last 3 weeks. no fun. but now i am happy.

ok, so breakfast...
2 eggs
2 pieces of bread (found this awesome whole grain/low carb bread at Trader Joes. serving size is 2 slices, 50 cals per slice, 6 net carbs per slice!)
1 tbsp fat free cream cheese
.5 cup greek yogurt
.5 cup non-fat cottage cheese
2/3 cup whole strawberries

totals were:
500 calories
16.5g fat
58g protein
grain carbs - 18g (total, not net)
dairy carbs - 10.5g (total, not net)
fruit carbs - 13g (total, not net)

it took me an entire hour to eat all of that food. i was not a fan of the greek yogurt. it was very... bitter? sour? strong? anyhow, the strawberries didn't help because they are on the tart side as well. i have to find a way to make the yogurt taste better because it contains most of the protein, so i will need to eat it. maybe i'll add some splenda or S/F torani syrups next time.

anyhow, my tummy feels weird. like it's not sure what to do with all of this food that i just put in it. interesting...

Laura,

I add Starbucks sugar-free vanilla syrup to my greek yogurt. It's 0/0/0 and made with splenda. So good.

Lynn

Pxlkitty4
08-12-2011, 10:22 PM
I just hit my 6 month mark the other day. When I started this I only thought I would be doing this for 3-4 months tops. And I didn't really know where I would end up as far as weight. I am not sure that I really thought I would see it all the way through. I don't think that I would have, with out everyone on this forum. Whether anyone realized it or not, you guys were big motivators for me. It helped me so much to see all of you sticking to it, and struggling, and sharing SV's and NSV's. It really showed me that I could do it, too. I also knew that no one would understand how elated I was to move from Phase to Phase more than you guys. Thanks for everything.

I don't mean to be sappy (I can almost hear the music in the background, too bad we can't attach sound), I just wanted to say it.

Awww... Sob, sob... I feel the same way.

LONGDIVISION - did you have the greek yogurt from Trader Joe's? Not my favorite thing from there. Definitely shop around. I like the Yoplait and Dannon ones that are out now. LOVE that greek yogurt is going mainstream.

Tuscany123
08-13-2011, 12:51 AM
I'm brand new but love reading all the success on this thread. It's very motivating!:carrot:

stuckat15lbs
08-13-2011, 10:25 AM
Anyone have any advice, I've been on on Ideal Protein since last November, I have lost 45lbs, my goal is 60. But the last 15 have been very difficult, I can't get past this stage, i drop a little and then jump back up. I'm having difficulty with my will power lately too. Not sure what to do to re-focus myself. Anyone have any tricks or advice?

Pxlkitty4
08-13-2011, 11:10 AM
I weighed in at 149.0 this morning! I ate my protein meal for lunch yesterday because I was home with my son and ordered in a salad for lunch (he got a whole grain organic low-fat pizza). Last night I didn't feel like eating. I had an IP bar and a chocolate drink and went to bed. I really needed sleep after the night before. Today I will eat better!

jordanna
08-13-2011, 11:19 AM
I weighed in at 149.0 this morning! I ate my protein meal for lunch yesterday because I was home with my son and ordered in a salad for lunch (he got a whole grain organic low-fat pizza). Last night I didn't feel like eating. I had an IP bar and a chocolate drink and went to bed. I really needed sleep after the night before. Today I will eat better!

Way to go Pxlkitty! I bet that was nice to see :)

Pxlkitty4
08-13-2011, 11:23 AM
Way to go Pxlkitty! I bet that was nice to see :)


Thanks, Jordanna... I have a huge grin on my very tired face this morning... I'm so glad you're back. I remember READING *yes, I read things before asking questions on the daily thread* so many of your posts when I got started on this diet. I attribute a lot of my success on this program to you.

Anyone have any advice, I've been on on Ideal Protein since last November, I have lost 45lbs, my goal is 60. But the last 15 have been very difficult, I can't get past this stage, i drop a little and then jump back up. I'm having difficulty with my will power lately too. Not sure what to do to re-focus myself. Anyone have any tricks or advice?

I've had this discussion with my coach on several occasions. When you get close to goal, it's very easy to start letting things slide. You are probably tired of the diet, sick of feeling deprived when you don't feel too heavy anymore, and want to rejoin your social activities that you've been avoiding while you were on the diet.

Here is my advice. Going from 160 to 150 for me (the last 10lbs, I still have 5 to go) are where I have started to see the most results. I look pretty darn good with clothes on (size 8 now), but there are still some wiggly bits here and there and I wouldn't yet buy a bikini. It's the end of the diet where you can really see the most improvement.

I have started toning by doing pilates and swimmng laps. Yes, it makes me hungrier and, yes, I'm adding a packet when I work out. Recently, as a result, I've started to see imrovement in my abs, leg muscles, and my arm flab is starting to disappear. The loose skin really needs all the fat to be gone before it starts to firm up. That, and you HAVE to tone with exercise. Exercise is a vital part of maintenance, so you might as well get it started now. Even if you are only walking, it's better than nothing. Also just try stretching... it's not vigorous exercise, but it does help a lot. I am about to drag about my "fluidity" bar (ballet bar) and do some additional flexibility training.

Here is the hard part. All of these things are coming at a time when people are saying "why are you still on the diet? you look great! why don't you stop now?"... And, the compliments have stopped from people who see me all the time. People who haven't seen me for a while are still shocked. Others are just lecturing me on the fact that they think I "might gain it all back" or "do you think you'll be able to do this forever, it sounds so strict"... I've really stopped talking about the diet, but refocused my energy internally. People have become more critical during the past 10lbs than they ever were before.

Note that I attribute this reaction to the fact that I am smaller than most of the people who are criticizing me now. Everyone's reaction to my weight loss has to do with THEM rather than ME... I've learned so much while on this journey. Most people have their own issues, and it is reflected in the comments that they direct towards me.

Anyway, here is my advice... I'm going to kill these last 5lbs. In all truth, I have 10lbs more of fat to lose but 5lbs of muscle to gain. I know that these pounds will take longer than the rest. It's ok! I never thought I would be in a place where I was trying to lose "only 5 lbs" and I should be very happy about that. Most of the time, I am very happy about that. But sometimes I slip and start to think I haven't yet reached my goal and that makes me a failure. Then I snap to it. I'm a superstar!

AND SO ARE YOU!

brummie
08-13-2011, 12:28 PM
Pxlkitty - congrats on finally reaching the 140's!! You've been very patient for this reward! I'm proud of you.

Day 2 of phase 3 today. I am going to have the same breakfast today as I had yesterday ('cept, i'm poaching the eggs instead of scrambling).

I felt really great yesterday after my tummy had settled from the big breakfast. I did have to force my lunch down and skipped the lettuce.
The best thing was that I was able to work out (we live on the east coast of vancouver island, at the bottom of our hill is a beautiful fishing village - it's quite the hike up back to the house and up til now have avoided it like the plague! It took me longer than I thought it would, but I managed to walk up without stopping once...I know it may not sound like a major workout...but my body was burning!) I'm going to keep doing it everyday until i can RUN up that hill!
I weighed 137.6 this morning...weird.

Hope everyone has a great day!!

Pxlkitty4
08-13-2011, 12:48 PM
Pxlkitty - congrats on finally reaching the 140's!! You've been very patient for this reward! I'm proud of you.

The best thing was that I was able to work out (we live on the east coast of vancouver island, at the bottom of our hill is a beautiful fishing village - it's quite the hike up back to the house and up til now have avoided it like the plague! It took me longer than I thought it would, but I managed to walk up without stopping once...I know it may not sound like a major workout...but my body was burning!) I'm going to keep doing it everyday until i can RUN up that hill!


THANKS! Which town do you live in? We visited there last summer and took the train from Victoria up to Qualicum Beach and back. It was so beautiful. We rented a house just outside Victoria for a week... such a wonderful time.

showgirlaz
08-13-2011, 01:04 PM
HI everyone. :)

It has been such a long time since I've been here. Things went a little crazy on the family side the past 4 months and I just haven't been finding time to be here.

I was really wanting to come back for the support. I find I am drifting too far away from where I should be with my diet and goals.

I can't believe how many new people are on the boards and how things have changed! I hardly recognize anything. SO, would it be ok if I lurk around and mostly post here til I feel more comfortable?

Thanks,
Carla

brummie
08-13-2011, 01:16 PM
Pxlkitty - the village is called Cowichan Bay. It is really beautiful here. We are the only CITTASLOW in north american...life runs at a slow peaceful self sustained pace here...after a lifetime living in urban england, this place seems like heaven on earth! If you plan to come back up this way, let me know!!!

brummie
08-13-2011, 01:19 PM
HI everyone. :)

It has been such a long time since I've been here. Things went a little crazy on the family side the past 4 months and I just haven't been finding time to be here.

I was really wanting to come back for the support. I find I am drifting too far away from where I should be with my diet and goals.

I can't believe how many new people are on the boards and how things have changed! I hardly recognize anything. SO, would it be ok if I lurk around and mostly post here til I feel more comfortable?

Thanks,
Carla

Carla! Welcome back! You were really instrumental in my keeping up with this plan in the early days...an information powerhouse! It's great to see you back, I hope you do venture on to the other threads, our newbies would definately benefit from your knowledge and expertise!

woolberger
08-13-2011, 01:50 PM
I weighed in at 149.0 this morning! I ate my protein meal for lunch yesterday because I was home with my son and ordered in a salad for lunch (he got a whole grain organic low-fat pizza). Last night I didn't feel like eating. I had an IP bar and a chocolate drink and went to bed. I really needed sleep after the night before. Today I will eat better!

Congratulations on reaching the 140's. I know you have been working hard. I have been following the adventures of your son this week and I'm so glad he is OK. You are amazing to have stayed on plan and actually lose! Way to go!

HI everyone. :)

It has been such a long time since I've been here. Things went a little crazy on the family side the past 4 months and I just haven't been finding time to be here.

I was really wanting to come back for the support. I find I am drifting too far away from where I should be with my diet and goals.

I can't believe how many new people are on the boards and how things have changed! I hardly recognize anything. SO, would it be ok if I lurk around and mostly post here til I feel more comfortable?

Thanks,
Carla

Of course! Everyone misses you. You and your great advice and insights are referenced often on all these threads! Welcome back (and don't just lurk;)).

Lynn

showgirlaz
08-13-2011, 01:52 PM
Carla! Welcome back! You were really instrumental in my keeping up with this plan in the early days...an information powerhouse! It's great to see you back, I hope you do venture on to the other threads, our newbies would definately benefit from your knowledge and expertise!

Thank you! :) I am glad you have done well with the program. I truly think it works great when followed as designed.

Maybe. We'll see about me venturing out. Today I am just trying to catch up on old threads. There are SO many new people (GOOD THING :) ) it may take me awhile to get a feel for how to relate to people. (it is so easy to type something that comes across not as intended) It is nice to see all the success everyone is having!! It is just what I need to get the ball rolling again.

On the other hand, I am open for questions if someone wants to ask. I just hate to barge in and say something that might not be needed. ;) Seems like there are many seasons and well qualified people around here.

Pxlkitty4
08-13-2011, 03:05 PM
HI everyone. :)
I was really wanting to come back for the support. I find I am drifting too far away from where I should be with my diet and goals.

...

SO, would it be ok if I lurk around and mostly post here til I feel more comfortable?

Welcome back. Definitely stay on the experienced thread. It's a different kind of support.

Pxlkitty - the village is called Cowichan Bay. It is really beautiful here. We are the only CITTASLOW in north american...life runs at a slow peaceful self sustained pace here...after a lifetime living in urban england, this place seems like heaven on earth! If you plan to come back up this way, let me know!!!

I loved Vancouver Island! You are lucky to live in such a beautiful place.

Congratulations on reaching the 140's. I know you have been working hard. I have been following the adventures of your son this week and I'm so glad he is OK. You are amazing to have stayed on plan and actually lose! Way to go!

Thanks... He's MUCH better today. We got the steroid/advil/benadryl doses right. Of course, things are always better when you're not lying down. It's SO hard to watch little people with breathing issues. I'm just lucky that no one has spoken the word "asthma" and that it wasn't a water in the lungs issue after all. I am also very relieved that is seems to be clearing up. It was actually a relief last night to just have two IP products, take a sleeping pill, and go to bed. I didn't even want to eat, but knew that I needed to, and thought two products instead of a protein meal wasn't going to do any harm.

jordanna
08-13-2011, 04:35 PM
HI everyone. :)

It has been such a long time since I've been here. Things went a little crazy on the family side the past 4 months and I just haven't been finding time to be here.

I was really wanting to come back for the support. I find I am drifting too far away from where I should be with my diet and goals.

I can't believe how many new people are on the boards and how things have changed! I hardly recognize anything. SO, would it be ok if I lurk around and mostly post here til I feel more comfortable?

Thanks,
Carla

I said it on the daily thread and I'll say it again. HOORAY!! welcome back, I've missed you!

jennydoodle
08-13-2011, 06:58 PM
Just popping in to catch up! We are going out to dinner with some friends tonight and I am very excited to wear a dress that I haven't been able to wear, like ever. I also bought a pair of Juicy jeans (from a consignment shop) in size 31. I do not know what that translates to in sizes, but they fit me really nice and now I actually have a bottom that fits. Every pair of pants and jeans I have are very loose and saggy- not that I am complaining ;).

I am feeling so good lately, and I am enjoying it for all it is worth while it is here! I am in a good place, mentally, and am really liking the way my body is transforming. I am (unofficially) at 21# and more and more people are noticing. I have my goal around 130, figuring that I would like to maintain at 135, but in all honesty, if I could lose a few more inches off of my stomach and hips each, I would be done, no matter what the actual number is.

I am between an 8 and 10 now, and am thinking that I would like to fit comfortably into a 6. I have always had trouble with finding pants and jeans that fit me since I have a typical hourglass figure. I always end up with enough space in the back of the waistband to host a party. I think that I will always have this issue, no matter what size I am :) But I am chomping at the bit to fit comfortably into single digit sizes. It is amazing that in 10 short weeks I have gone from a snug 12 to a lose 10 / tight 8.

Welcome back Carla! Before I started IP I read through all the stickies and your knowledge is incredible!

JoLoMN
08-13-2011, 07:02 PM
Congrats Jenny! Enjoy the success. You earned it!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-14-2011, 12:51 AM
Thanks, Jordanna... I have a huge grin on my very tired face this morning... I'm so glad you're back. I remember READING *yes, I read things before asking questions on the daily thread* so many of your posts when I got started on this diet. I attribute a lot of my success on this program to you.



I've had this discussion with my coach on several occasions. When you get close to goal, it's very easy to start letting things slide. You are probably tired of the diet, sick of feeling deprived when you don't feel too heavy anymore, and want to rejoin your social activities that you've been avoiding while you were on the diet.

Here is my advice. Going from 160 to 150 for me (the last 10lbs, I still have 5 to go) are where I have started to see the most results. I look pretty darn good with clothes on (size 8 now), but there are still some wiggly bits here and there and I wouldn't yet buy a bikini. It's the end of the diet where you can really see the most improvement.

I have started toning by doing pilates and swimmng laps. Yes, it makes me hungrier and, yes, I'm adding a packet when I work out. Recently, as a result, I've started to see imrovement in my abs, leg muscles, and my arm flab is starting to disappear. The loose skin really needs all the fat to be gone before it starts to firm up. That, and you HAVE to tone with exercise. Exercise is a vital part of maintenance, so you might as well get it started now. Even if you are only walking, it's better than nothing. Also just try stretching... it's not vigorous exercise, but it does help a lot. I am about to drag about my "fluidity" bar (ballet bar) and do some additional flexibility training.

Here is the hard part. All of these things are coming at a time when people are saying "why are you still on the diet? you look great! why don't you stop now?"... And, the compliments have stopped from people who see me all the time. People who haven't seen me for a while are still shocked. Others are just lecturing me on the fact that they think I "might gain it all back" or "do you think you'll be able to do this forever, it sounds so strict"... I've really stopped talking about the diet, but refocused my energy internally. People have become more critical during the past 10lbs than they ever were before.

Note that I attribute this reaction to the fact that I am smaller than most of the people who are criticizing me now. Everyone's reaction to my weight loss has to do with THEM rather than ME... I've learned so much while on this journey. Most people have their own issues, and it is reflected in the comments that they direct towards me.

Anyway, here is my advice... I'm going to kill these last 5lbs. In all truth, I have 10lbs more of fat to lose but 5lbs of muscle to gain. I know that these pounds will take longer than the rest. It's ok! I never thought I would be in a place where I was trying to lose "only 5 lbs" and I should be very happy about that. Most of the time, I am very happy about that. But sometimes I slip and start to think I haven't yet reached my goal and that makes me a failure. Then I snap to it. I'm a superstar!

AND SO ARE YOU! Thank you for that... I was just wondering on the daily thread about this exact thing. I am continuing on until I know I am done, and my arms don't have all that loose skin. Glad your son is feeling better.

HI everyone. :)

It has been such a long time since I've been here. Things went a little crazy on the family side the past 4 months and I just haven't been finding time to be here.

I was really wanting to come back for the support. I find I am drifting too far away from where I should be with my diet and goals.

I can't believe how many new people are on the boards and how things have changed! I hardly recognize anything. SO, would it be ok if I lurk around and mostly post here til I feel more comfortable?

Thanks,
Carlathings have changed, and some stay the same. I am glad you are back and we always have room for you here.

Gika
08-14-2011, 01:08 AM
HI everyone. :)

It has been such a long time since I've been here. Things went a little crazy on the family side the past 4 months and I just haven't been finding time to be here.

I was really wanting to come back for the support. I find I am drifting too far away from where I should be with my diet and goals.

I can't believe how many new people are on the boards and how things have changed! I hardly recognize anything. SO, would it be ok if I lurk around and mostly post here til I feel more comfortable?

Thanks,
Carla


I just had to say welcome back and thanks! When I first started the program I read and read and read tons of your posts and they were tremendously helpful to me!
I remember reading in one of your posts that you suffered from hypoglycemia, and I had the same problem too. During the first few weeks into the program it continued as usual, but as of about 3 weeks ago I haven't had any episodes :). Ok, I'm rambling now, so just welcome back and thanks again! :D

disgal
08-14-2011, 09:25 AM
HI everyone. :)

It has been such a long time since I've been here. Things went a little crazy on the family side the past 4 months and I just haven't been finding time to be here.

I was really wanting to come back for the support. I find I am drifting too far away from where I should be with my diet and goals.

I can't believe how many new people are on the boards and how things have changed! I hardly recognize anything. SO, would it be ok if I lurk around and mostly post here til I feel more comfortable?

Thanks,
Carla


I also want to say "thank you" Carla!! :hug: When I first came on this website I read and read for DAYS!!! I saw your posts quite frequently, and appreciate all your insight!!!
Welcome back!!!:carrot:

sandyh50
08-14-2011, 10:57 AM
Good morning all! WElcome back CArla, I have enjoyed reading your "old" posts too.

Good discussion on when do we know we are at goal. I lost a hundred pounds on WW almost ten years ago and maintained it for quite some time. Then 3 years ago I started gaining weight, until I was 50 pounds heavier! I am shooting for that same goal, but am wondering if it is something I can maintain since exercise is limited with the osteoarthritis in my knees (I am almost 59) . I really want to be able to grab something in my closet and know that it will fit and not be too tight!!!

disgal
08-14-2011, 11:17 AM
I've had this discussion with my coach on several occasions. When you get close to goal, it's very easy to start letting things slide. You are probably tired of the diet, sick of feeling deprived when you don't feel too heavy anymore, and want to rejoin your social activities that you've been avoiding while you were on the diet.

Here is my advice. Going from 160 to 150 for me (the last 10lbs, I still have 5 to go) are where I have started to see the most results. I look pretty darn good with clothes on (size 8 now), but there are still some wiggly bits here and there and I wouldn't yet buy a bikini. It's the end of the diet where you can really see the most improvement.

I have started toning by doing pilates and swimmng laps. Yes, it makes me hungrier and, yes, I'm adding a packet when I work out. Recently, as a result, I've started to see imrovement in my abs, leg muscles, and my arm flab is starting to disappear. The loose skin really needs all the fat to be gone before it starts to firm up. That, and you HAVE to tone with exercise. Exercise is a vital part of maintenance, so you might as well get it started now. Even if you are only walking, it's better than nothing. Also just try stretching... it's not vigorous exercise, but it does help a lot. I am about to drag about my "fluidity" bar (ballet bar) and do some additional flexibility training.

Here is the hard part. All of these things are coming at a time when people are saying "why are you still on the diet? you look great! why don't you stop now?"... And, the compliments have stopped from people who see me all the time. People who haven't seen me for a while are still shocked. Others are just lecturing me on the fact that they think I "might gain it all back" or "do you think you'll be able to do this forever, it sounds so strict"... I've really stopped talking about the diet, but refocused my energy internally. People have become more critical during the past 10lbs than they ever were before.

Note that I attribute this reaction to the fact that I am smaller than most of the people who are criticizing me now. Everyone's reaction to my weight loss has to do with THEM rather than ME... I've learned so much while on this journey. Most people have their own issues, and it is reflected in the comments that they direct towards me.

Anyway, here is my advice... I'm going to kill these last 5lbs. In all truth, I have 10lbs more of fat to lose but 5lbs of muscle to gain. I know that these pounds will take longer than the rest. It's ok! I never thought I would be in a place where I was trying to lose "only 5 lbs" and I should be very happy about that. Most of the time, I am very happy about that. But sometimes I slip and start to think I haven't yet reached my goal and that makes me a failure. Then I snap to it. I'm a superstar!

AND SO ARE YOU!

WOW!!! This is EXACTLY where I am right now!!! Everything you have said is what I'm feeling/experiencing!! I really need to get my head straight. I think I want to get down to the low 160's and then maintain btwn 165-170, but I get pressure from others who are wondering when I'm going to stop losing! I really want to be done, but I really want to be maintaining in the 160's....and REALLY would lOVE to see a size 12 (well, I'm kinda in a 12, but want to be in a COMFORTABLE 12)! LOL!!
I stopped talking about my diet a long time ago... unless someone asks... I don't discuss it (thank goodness for this forum)!
I do go for "leisurely" walks (about an hour) a few days a week. But before IP I was doing hard workouts including weight-lifting 5-6 days a week (it was my poor diet that was killing me). Because my coach advised back in the beginning that I would see smaller numbers if I exercised...I stopped! Now I'm afraid to do any more than my walk for fear it will slow down my weight loss.
I have to say it has been much more difficult staying on track during our beautiful summer weather! I have recently been partaking in cocktails ....and it has slowed down my progress for sure!! I really just need to put my head down, avoid all distractions, and finish this thing!! Hubby is where he wants to be, but will keep doing Phase 1/2 until we can start Phase 3 together! He's such a doll!!
Here's to all of us reaching our lifetime/lifelong goals!! Best wishes!!:hug:

Pxlkitty4
08-14-2011, 11:41 AM
WOW!!! This is EXACTLY where I am right now!!! Everything you have said is what I'm feeling/experiencing!! I really need to get my head straight.


You have the right attitude. Head down and focus!! And come here for support...

showgirlaz
08-14-2011, 02:20 PM
Of course! Everyone misses you. You and your great advice and insights are referenced often on all these threads! Welcome back (and don't just lurk;)).

Lynn

Thank you, Lynn! It is so nice to see you still here!

Welcome back. Definitely stay on the experienced thread. It's a different kind of support.



Thank you! I definitely need the support getting back on track! :)

I said it on the daily thread and I'll say it again. HOORAY!! welcome back, I've missed you!

:hug: I missed you too! You had a better reason for being gone in my book! ;)

Just popping in to catch up! We are going out to dinner with some friends tonight and I am very excited to wear a dress that I haven't been able to wear, like ever. I also bought a pair of Juicy jeans (from a consignment shop) in size 31. I do not know what that translates to in sizes, but they fit me really nice and now I actually have a bottom that fits. Every pair of pants and jeans I have are very loose and saggy- not that I am complaining ;).

I am feeling so good lately, and I am enjoying it for all it is worth while it is here! I am in a good place, mentally, and am really liking the way my body is transforming. I am (unofficially) at 21# and more and more people are noticing. I have my goal around 130, figuring that I would like to maintain at 135, but in all honesty, if I could lose a few more inches off of my stomach and hips each, I would be done, no matter what the actual number is.

I am between an 8 and 10 now, and am thinking that I would like to fit comfortably into a 6. I have always had trouble with finding pants and jeans that fit me since I have a typical hourglass figure. I always end up with enough space in the back of the waistband to host a party. I think that I will always have this issue, no matter what size I am :) But I am chomping at the bit to fit comfortably into single digit sizes. It is amazing that in 10 short weeks I have gone from a snug 12 to a lose 10 / tight 8.

Welcome back Carla! Before I started IP I read through all the stickies and your knowledge is incredible!

Thanks, Jenny! You are doing so well!! I just love how much change you are seeing! Congratulations on getting into the 31's I have the same issues as you. I am an hourglass figure and jeans, MAN, are they ever hard to find a good fit. At least in a thinner body shape it is more of a manageable task!

I just had to say welcome back and thanks! When I first started the program I read and read and read tons of your posts and they were tremendously helpful to me!
I remember reading in one of your posts that you suffered from hypoglycemia, and I had the same problem too. During the first few weeks into the program it continued as usual, but as of about 3 weeks ago I haven't had any episodes :). Ok, I'm rambling now, so just welcome back and thanks again! :D

AWW! Thank you! I am so glad I was able to help you get information for the program. Yes, I have hypoglycemia. I suffered with it during the program quiet a bit. My coach didn't realize I should have been adding an extra packet so, I struggled a lot more than I needed to. I have learned at lot that I hope will help me this time round. I am so glad you are seeing a correction as soon as 3 weeks. Are you by chance using any restricted packets?

I also want to say "thank you" Carla!! :hug: When I first came on this website I read and read for DAYS!!! I saw your posts quite frequently, and appreciate all your insight!!!
Welcome back!!!:carrot:

Hey Disgal!! I love your avatar! I am a totally Disney fan! Thank you for the warm welcome and I am so glad you found something interesting in my old ramblings!

Good morning all! WElcome back CArla, I have enjoyed reading your "old" posts too.

Good discussion on when do we know we are at goal. I lost a hundred pounds on WW almost ten years ago and maintained it for quite some time. Then 3 years ago I started gaining weight, until I was 50 pounds heavier! I am shooting for that same goal, but am wondering if it is something I can maintain since exercise is limited with the osteoarthritis in my knees (I am almost 59) . I really want to be able to grab something in my closet and know that it will fit and not be too tight!!!

Hello Sandy! Nice to meet ya!

As for your new question, I BELIEVE, that if we learn to apply the principles we gain in phase 4 we will not have the same weight gain issues. I only started to gain weight after a year, and when I lost my focus (due to stress) and began eating as I USED TO. We are learning that OUR bodies are best with a higher protein lower carb combination. Unfortunately, WW doesn't teach you specifically about avoiding the carb excess. It teaches points which is more about a balance of lower fat, added fiber and lower carbs but, it may not help someone really understand, in long term "terms" how low to keep the carbs. When you are done with this program, those who maintain well seem to understand that bit and when is the best time to have complex carbs so that insulin stays in control throughout the day.





OK.. So, my day consists of starting day one of IP and going to a pet adoption event. I do rescue work with a poodle rescue and today we have multiple dogs out on show; 2 of them are my fosters. SO, here is to a long day of standing and talking!

I will check back with you all later! Have a great day!

sandyh50
08-14-2011, 02:43 PM
Carla, good luck back on DAy 1. I think your event will keep you so busy that you won't think about food (hopefully).

I like your answer to my question about goal. I think I have been brainwashed before that low carb diets are bad. Watching "Fathead" a documentary on hulu dot com really opened my eyes. I do think that finishing phase 4 will truly help me keep the weight off for life. Thanks for answering.

M0vingon
08-14-2011, 02:46 PM
I've had this discussion with my coach on several occasions. When you get close to goal, it's very easy to start letting things slide. You are probably tired of the diet, sick of feeling deprived when you don't feel too heavy anymore, and want to rejoin your social activities that you've been avoiding while you were on the diet.

Here is my advice. Going from 160 to 150 for me (the last 10lbs, I still have 5 to go) are where I have started to see the most results. I look pretty darn good with clothes on (size 8 now), but there are still some wiggly bits here and there and I wouldn't yet buy a bikini. It's the end of the diet where you can really see the most improvement.

I have started toning by doing pilates and swimmng laps. Yes, it makes me hungrier and, yes, I'm adding a packet when I work out. Recently, as a result, I've started to see imrovement in my abs, leg muscles, and my arm flab is starting to disappear. The loose skin really needs all the fat to be gone before it starts to firm up. That, and you HAVE to tone with exercise. Exercise is a vital part of maintenance, so you might as well get it started now. Even if you are only walking, it's better than nothing. Also just try stretching... it's not vigorous exercise, but it does help a lot. I am about to drag about my "fluidity" bar (ballet bar) and do some additional flexibility training.

Here is the hard part. All of these things are coming at a time when people are saying "why are you still on the diet? you look great! why don't you stop now?"... And, the compliments have stopped from people who see me all the time. People who haven't seen me for a while are still shocked. Others are just lecturing me on the fact that they think I "might gain it all back" or "do you think you'll be able to do this forever, it sounds so strict"... I've really stopped talking about the diet, but refocused my energy internally. People have become more critical during the past 10lbs than they ever were before.

Note that I attribute this reaction to the fact that I am smaller than most of the people who are criticizing me now. Everyone's reaction to my weight loss has to do with THEM rather than ME... I've learned so much while on this journey. Most people have their own issues, and it is reflected in the comments that they direct towards me.

Anyway, here is my advice... I'm going to kill these last 5lbs. In all truth, I have 10lbs more of fat to lose but 5lbs of muscle to gain. I know that these pounds will take longer than the rest. It's ok! I never thought I would be in a place where I was trying to lose "only 5 lbs" and I should be very happy about that. Most of the time, I am very happy about that. But sometimes I slip and start to think I haven't yet reached my goal and that makes me a failure. Then I snap to it. I'm a superstar!

AND SO ARE YOU!

Thanks for posting this. It's what I needed to hear (read) today. I've been getting frustrated with my losses slowing down and because I'm feeling much better than I did at my start weight, I have been thinking and re-thinking my strategy and weight goal. In truth, I'm just so impatient and maybe bored with eating the same things over and over. I need to re-read your post (daily) and buckle down and make it to the finish. Sure, I feel great now, but I can't delude myself into thinking that there isn't a huge benefit in sticking with until the last pounds are off.

jordanna
08-14-2011, 02:47 PM
I had dinner with my parents Friday night, my dad is on IP also, so it's nice to have someone to eat with at family events. He made chicken with homemade BBQ sauce that is "IP friendly" or so he thought. It was super delicious so I asked him what was in it and he listed off a bunch of approved ingredients ie: wf ketchup, spices etc and then mentioned it had 2 tbsp of molasses in it...well that's why it tasted so good I guess :) I had a really clean bootcamp day yesterday and I'm down on the scales today so I guess it didn't knock me out of ketosis....thank goodness! Silly dads :) I also had to tell him that an ear of corn has more carbs than a potato because he figured it was okay to have some corn once in a while!

I found when I was on program last time that once you are deep in ketosis it takes a lot more to knock you out than it does in the beginning stages. Interestingly enough when restarting the diet this time it only took me a day and a half to fall into ketosis again so I wonder if your body is more accepting of ketosis once you've been in it for a longer period of time. I'm not saying this as a justification to cheat by any means because you are really only dissapointing yourself and slowing down the process of losing weight but also reminds me not to sweat the small stuff like an oops with a bit of BBQ sauce.

Hope your weekends are going well :) So nice to see your active face on the boards again Carla! It feels familiar and nice.

Princess Jessica - congrats on your new low # I'm sure that was wonderful to see! I can remember going to England in 1996, I went on weight watchers before I left and got down to 167 lbs...that's the lowest my mind can remember being, before that I don't think I gave weight much thought. I'd like to end up there again one day...

Gika
08-14-2011, 04:20 PM
AWW! Thank you! I am so glad I was able to help you get information for the program. Yes, I have hypoglycemia. I suffered with it during the program quiet a bit. My coach didn't realize I should have been adding an extra packet so, I struggled a lot more than I needed to. I have learned at lot that I hope will help me this time round. I am so glad you are seeing a correction as soon as 3 weeks. Are you by chance using any restricted packets?



Actually it took 5 weeks to see the improvement, so for the last 3 weeks I've felt fine. At my clinic they choose the packets that you get for the first 2 weeks, and they gave me a restricted to eat every day :/ (though no bars nor soy snacks) I ended up substituting some of the restricteds for RTDs at the beginning. Now I'm using a restricted maybe 5-7 days a week (so almost every day). Also after the 3rd week I started exercising moderately and so having 4 packets on the days that I do. I'm really glad that I seem to have stabilized at this point, because I was pricking my fingers more than I ever had since I wanted to know how my body reacted to specific IP foods, and what my timing should be, etc. My clinic isn't the best at "coaching", so when I asked them about the changes I should expect in my blood sugar level they didn't have a real answer (they just said "it should be fine")

woolberger
08-14-2011, 04:39 PM
2Ride (Joanne),

A week or so ago we were talking about a "search for chips" and you mentioned you use Daikon Radishes. Do you just eat them raw as a chip or do you bake/roast them someway?
Also, with my new found love of Kohlrabi...what do you do with the greens?

Always looking for new ideas! Thanks.

Lynn

jordanna
08-14-2011, 04:58 PM
I mixed the vanilla pudding with some root beer flavored stevia and it's delicious like a root beer float :)

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-14-2011, 10:06 PM
2Ride (Joanne),

A week or so ago we were talking about a "search for chips" and you mentioned you use Daikon Radishes. Do you just eat them raw as a chip or do you bake/roast them someway?
Also, with my new found love of Kohlrabi...what do you do with the greens?

Always looking for new ideas! Thanks.

LynnI actually baked the daikon it was good, but the kohlrabi as chips are even better. I have found they get nice and crisp if you bake them on a oizza stone. but they also burn faster too. My kohlrabi never come with the greens attached so sorry don't know.... I have also heard that a kohlrabi salad is good but haven't tried it yet. I boiled my last kohlrabi last night and pureed it, I haven't really tried it yet as it is one of the higher carb veggies and my coach said no high carb veggies this week... so I have been eating a lot of grilled zucchini and asparagus and mushrooms.

I mixed the vanilla pudding with some root beer flavored stevia and it's delicious like a root beer float :)oh that sounds sooo good.

Pxlkitty4
08-14-2011, 10:25 PM
Thanks for posting this. It's what I needed to hear (read) today. I've been getting frustrated with my losses slowing down and because I'm feeling much better than I did at my start weight, I have been thinking and re-thinking my strategy and weight goal. In truth, I'm just so impatient and maybe bored with eating the same things over and over. I need to re-read your post (daily) and buckle down and make it to the finish. Sure, I feel great now, but I can't delude myself into thinking that there isn't a huge benefit in sticking with until the last pounds are off.

I always think of it like I'm getting to the end of a race. Would I stop running and give up? No. I really want to see the finish line. I'm bored eating the same things over and over too. I really need to mix things up (again)! I weigh in early tomorrow morning, so we'll see how this week went. I really hope to be officially in the 140s!!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-14-2011, 11:46 PM
I always think of it like I'm getting to the end of a race. Would I stop running and give up? No. I really want to see the finish line. I'm bored eating the same things over and over too. I really need to mix things up (again)! I weigh in early tomorrow morning, so we'll see how this week went. I really hope to be officially in the 140s!!

Good luck with your weigh in, like you I am running a race and getting a little tired, but can see the finish line and I am just getting ready to give it that extra burst. I really liked the grilled zucchini and asparagus this week, I like mixing it up but truth be told I miss my roasted broccoli... hoping to have a couple of good weeks of weighing in. Just to give me that little burst to the finish line.
I sent my brother my before and after pictures tonight I think he is going to be shocked. He says he is proud of me and says he can tell the difference in me with my attitude. It is nice to have family that care. Have a great sunday night.

MInewgoal
08-15-2011, 09:23 AM
Well...I didn't make it to the 140s this week. I weighed in at 150.2. Not going to complain though..because it's a loss, even when I was struggling this week :carrot:
Waiting to hear back from this job is more stressful then I would have thought, but it's probably more of my life situation..then just the job, LOL.

Have a good week wonderful friends! :hug:

Treena
08-15-2011, 10:21 AM
Pxlkitty, thanks so much for your advice and for sharing your experiences with the last 10 lbs. That's been happening to me, too. I still have a few who who have been supporting me since the beginning, and haven't had a word of negativity to say to me (I refer to them as my cheerleaders :D ), but there are the ones who keep saying "You don't even have 10lbs left to lose!" and "You're being unhealthy!" and "I think you're trying to lose too much!" I ignore those and just stick to hanging out with my "cheerleaders" for now!

Carla, welcome back!!! I, too, have been away for a few months from the site, and I came back because I needed advice on why the heck I've been so hungry these last 15 or so pounds, even after adding an extra protein packet. It seems that I'm not the only one, so at least I'm "normal"! My guess is my body knows it's running out of its "reserves" and is telling me, "Ok, it's almost time to reintroduce those carbs!" Haha. Anyway I'm off topic. It's great to have you back!!!! Glad to see familiar faces AND so many new ones.

Pxlkitty4
08-15-2011, 10:29 AM
Hi everyone. I made it to 149.9! With clothes on at the coach's office and everything... I took a picture of the health-o-meter where the big number is on the "100". When I started, it said "200"...

Good luck with your weigh in, like you I am running a race and getting a little tired, but can see the finish line and I am just getting ready to give it that extra burst. I really liked the grilled zucchini and asparagus this week, I like mixing it up but truth be told I miss my roasted broccoli... hoping to have a couple of good weeks of weighing in. Just to give me that little burst to the finish line.


I am breaking out the veggies and the grill this week and buckling down! Have you tried broccolini? It's a cross between chinese broccoli and broccoli is delicious! http://www.fruitsandveggiesmorematters.org/?page_id=3007

Well...I didn't make it to the 140s this week. I weighed in at 150.2. Not going to complain though..because it's a loss, even when I was struggling this week :carrot:
Waiting to hear back from this job is more stressful then I would have thought, but it's probably more of my life situation..then just the job, LOL.

Have a good week wonderful friends! :hug:

Hang in there! You are doing SO VERY WELL all things considered. If you can make it through weeks like this without gaining, you are truly learning life-long lessons for dealing with stress. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger, right?

Pxlkitty, thanks so much for your advice and for sharing your experiences with the last 10 lbs. That's been happening to me, too. I still have a few who who have been supporting me since the beginning, and haven't had a word of negativity to say to me (I refer to them as my cheerleaders :D ), but there are the ones who keep saying "You don't even have 10lbs left to lose!" and "You're being unhealthy!" and "I think you're trying to lose too much!" I ignore those and just stick to hanging out with my "cheerleaders" for now!


I just discussed this whole subject with my coach. Her advice is to say "yes, I'm done" when people ask if I am done and then change the subject. She says that not many people will really notice the last little bit of weight. If they do, just say "I decided to lose a little more than I first planned." I'm going to try it. I'm sick of the negative comments about how I'm getting too skinny, etc. None of their business!

Bellamack
08-15-2011, 10:34 AM
Good luck with your weigh in, like you I am running a race and getting a little tired, but can see the finish line and I am just getting ready to give it that extra burst. I really liked the grilled zucchini and asparagus this week, I like mixing it up but truth be told I miss my roasted broccoli... hoping to have a couple of good weeks of weighing in. Just to give me that little burst to the finish line.
I sent my brother my before and after pictures tonight I think he is going to be shocked. He says he is proud of me and says he can tell the difference in me with my attitude. It is nice to have family that care. Have a great sunday night.

I admire you and the others that have been on so long, because I am only in my 7th week and am getting sick and tired of the same old food. I actually dreamed about Greek Yogurt last night. I think it was because the last commercial on TV was Jamie Lee advertising the new French & Greek style Activia. lol.
OK I saw that Kohlrabi at Wegmans, it was a small light green thing that looked sort of like a large garlic. So what do I do, just slice it thin and bake it?

Ishbel
08-15-2011, 10:35 AM
Hey Hey Everyone,

So I was away all last week on vacation with mom. She did IP with me (she's done it before) and she's going to try to lose another 10-15 lbs. She's so awesome! She asked me to be her little coach cause I'm so neurotic about following the plan.

I used the WF PB in a turkey stir fry last night (I needed something new so I searched and searched the recipe threads). Y-U-M...I was so excited to find something to use with that nasty PB...whenever I tried it I gagged HAHA.

Anyway, hope you all don't mind, I think I might make this thread my home. I've been watching most of you loose for the last four months so I hope that counts as experience.

Carla (another one!) :)

M0vingon
08-15-2011, 10:45 AM
Hi everyone. I made it to 149.9! With clothes on at the coach's office and everything... I took a picture of the health-o-meter where the big number is on the "100". When I started, it said "200"...


Congrats on officially hitting the 140s! :carrot:

For myself, I'm seriously stuck in the 190s. I've gotten as low as 190.2 (2 days ago) and now I'm back up a lb. Sigh... breathe and have faith. It will happen eventually! :^:
I realised this morning that as of today I am starting my 5th month of IP. Man, time flies!

showgirlaz
08-15-2011, 11:14 AM
So, yesterday was... OK. The day wasn't so exciting. It was a pretty easy start. I seem to be hungry at the late afternoon and evening. On to day 2! :)

The adoption event went really well. We found homes for 7 of our dogs this weekend and potential adopters for 4 more. I did a great home visit yesterday to a family interested in our Old English Sheepdog/Standard Poodle puppy (aka Sheepadoodle a puppy). It was such fun watching there 10 year old girl take care of him and play with him. The mom is originally from Montreal and said she grew up wanting an Old English. Unfortunately, as a result of the climate down here, they are not such common dogs. I think, after having spent plenty of time with them, they could offer him such a great home. They really seem to have given a large amount of consideration to timing, what type of dog they were interested in and why, and what accommodations they would be willing to make. As a rescue foster mom, that is so nice to see. We see so many who want to impulsive adopt and those who are shopping. SO, let's just say my day went very well and felt accomplished to the purpose of the day.



Well...I didn't make it to the 140s this week. I weighed in at 150.2. Not going to complain though..because it's a loss, even when I was struggling this week :carrot:
Waiting to hear back from this job is more stressful then I would have thought, but it's probably more of my life situation..then just the job, LOL.

Have a good week wonderful friends! :hug:

Congratulations on the loss! I know at the end stages no matter how small the loss is, it is so well earned. :) Your pictures are amazing! You really have changed SO much!


Carla, welcome back!!! I, too, have been away for a few months from the site, and I came back because I needed advice on why the heck I've been so hungry these last 15 or so pounds, even after adding an extra protein packet. It seems that I'm not the only one, so at least I'm "normal"! My guess is my body knows it's running out of its "reserves" and is telling me, "Ok, it's almost time to reintroduce those carbs!" Haha. Anyway I'm off topic. It's great to have you back!!!! Glad to see familiar faces AND so many new ones.

Hey there,Treena! Yes, that last 15 pounds is horribly challenging for some people. It seems to be a really decision point for some people about whether or not they picked the right goal. As you say, it is just your body signalling you "it's almost time!"

Fortunately, you have a supportive coach. Mine was telling me I was cheating because I was no longer losing 3 pounds or more a week. HA! I was so rigid I was in tears to be insulted like that. At least this time I know what to expect and have a new "coach". ;)

You have done great following the program! Congratulations on all your success!

Hi everyone. I made it to 149.9! With clothes on at the coach's office and everything... I took a picture of the health-o-meter where the big number is on the "100". When I started, it said "200"...



I am breaking out the veggies and the grill this week and buckling down! Have you tried broccolini? It's a cross between chinese broccoli and broccoli is delicious! http://www.fruitsandveggiesmorematters.org/?page_id=3007



Hang in there! You are doing SO VERY WELL all things considered. If you can make it through weeks like this without gaining, you are truly learning life-long lessons for dealing with stress. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger, right?



YEA!!! I am so happy for you! Busting through to the next 10 pound mark is always such a good time! I remember when you started, you have done a fantastic job of staying focused and your efforts really show. :hug:

I LOVE Broccolini! It is so good grilled, lightly misted with olive oil, sprinkled with sea salt and a little fresh lemon juice. YUM.

:dizzy: LOL.... I read your comment about what "doesn't kill you makes you stronger" and out of nowhere my brain added, "or puts 15 pounds on you!" WHAT?? Guess you can tell how I feel about how my body responded to the past months of stress. :P

I admire you and the others that have been on so long, because I am only in my 7th week and am getting sick and tired of the same old food. I actually dreamed about Greek Yogurt last night. I think it was because the last commercial on TV was Jamie Lee advertising the new French & Greek style Activia. lol.
OK I saw that Kohlrabi at Wegmans, it was a small light green thing that looked sort of like a large garlic. So what do I do, just slice it thin and bake it?

Food Dreams. I still remember dreaming about blueberry pancakes during my 11th week. It was so vivid I woke up crying. I was so worried I had just messed up nearly 3 months of effort! LOL

Hey Hey Everyone,

So I was away all last week on vacation with mom. She did IP with me (she's done it before) and she's going to try to lose another 10-15 lbs. She's so awesome! She asked me to be her little coach cause I'm so neurotic about following the plan.

I used the WF PB in a turkey stir fry last night (I needed something new so I searched and searched the recipe threads). Y-U-M...I was so excited to find something to use with that nasty PB...whenever I tried it I gagged HAHA.

Anyway, hope you all don't mind, I think I might make this thread my home. I've been watching most of you loose for the last four months so I hope that counts as experience.

Carla (another one!) :)

:) Hello! I guess that makes three of us "Carla" gals on this board and thread. ACTUALLY, I think there was another Carla when I started and through the middle of 2010.

I commend you for finding a use for that nasty PB they make. I tasted it and thought nothing was worth the $3.00 I paid to try and eat that. LOL

Bellamack
08-15-2011, 11:25 AM
ShowgirlAZ,

I just love Old English, we had 2 (brother and sister) when our daughter was growing up and they are the most gentle, fun dogs. I miss them. The female lived until 8 yrs ( bone cancer) and the male lived a healthy 14 yrs. I think a mix with a poodle would be adorable.

showgirlaz
08-15-2011, 11:47 AM
ShowgirlAZ,

I just love Old English, we had 2 (brother and sister) when our daughter was growing up and they are the most gentle, fun dogs. I miss them. The female lived until 8 yrs ( bone cancer) and the male lived a healthy 14 yrs. I think a mix with a poodle would be adorable.

He really is a cutie. I am concerned about the potential for bone cancer given the prevalence in the OES. They say both diet and early "fixing" impact that. We can't wait as long as I would like to have him neutered (given that he is a rescue pup) but, we have waited to the early recommended point to give him the best long term chances. I also have had him on a diet more designed for dogs that experience rapid bone growth so we can try to slow him down a bit and create a more dense bone structure. Hopefully, the little guy (Frasier) will have a long life like your male did.

He has all that steady, calm, happy energy of the OES. I really only see poodle in his lighter bone frame and smaller head shape. I may be also seeing it in that he is black and white as opposed to the grey tones but, poodles will start black and sometimes fade to grey during the first year so, WHO KNOWS what his final colors may be!

Can I ask your experienced opinion? Do you think a young OES type male puppy would do well as an only dog in a family with 2 young, grade school age, children and no other dogs? I am thinking yes but, that is my only question if it is possible he should be put instead with older children or dogs. The family is definitely committed to started early training with him and has a very active lifestyle which he would participate in so, I THINK, he will be challenged enough physically and mentally to not develop to many bad puppy habits. Thoughts?

tjlhj
08-15-2011, 12:12 PM
It appears that the old "Experienced" thread far exceeded its limits & has been closed... so :welcome: to all, but especially those of us who have been at this a while...

To visit the old thread, go to http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/232896-experienced-thread-continued-again.html...

hugs :hug:

Hello... I am not experienced ...just a newbie looking to you all for wisdom. :hug:
Can I ask if any of you exercise and how much if you do? I have heard conflicting things... "Dont exercise or your body will go into starvation mode"...but I am thinking exercise like 20 min on an ellipitical would be good.
Appreciate any comment. :?:
THANK YOU ...for the wisdom!! Love to read your support for each other.

jennydoodle
08-15-2011, 01:33 PM
Hello... I am not experienced ...just a newbie looking to you all for wisdom. :hug:
Can I ask if any of you exercise and how much if you do? I have heard conflicting things... "Dont exercise or your body will go into starvation mode"...but I am thinking exercise like 20 min on an ellipitical would be good.
Appreciate any comment. :?:
THANK YOU ...for the wisdom!! Love to read your support for each other.

Do a thread search for "exercise" or "working out". There are quite a number of discussions about this very topic.

brummie
08-15-2011, 02:54 PM
Hello All! Happy Monday!

So, as most of you know, I started phase 3 on Friday. Friday and Saturday went great. When I woke up on Sunday I was sick, sick, sick...tried eating my breakfast, but couldn't keep it down. Infact, I couldn't keep anything down...even water. I slept most of the day, so didn't get very much into my stomach (tried eating supper, but that didn't go too well either). I felt better this morning, but only managed about 1/3 of my breakfast, I bought the rest to work with me, thinking that I might be able to force it down...but, I just threw it in the garbage as it was turning my stomach a bit just to look at it. I'm thinking I feel sick because my stomach is empty (although, I am able to keep water down now).

My coach is out of town until Thursday, so I wanted to ask you guys if you think I should just carry on with phase 3, or revert back to phase 2...? I just don't know what kind of damage I have done (if any) - this is the first time I have been sick while on the program. Has anyone else gotten sick while on phase 3? what did you do?

Thanks in advance for any help with this!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-15-2011, 03:10 PM
I admire you and the others that have been on so long, because I am only in my 7th week and am getting sick and tired of the same old food. I actually dreamed about Greek Yogurt last night. I think it was because the last commercial on TV was Jamie Lee advertising the new French & Greek style Activia. lol.
OK I saw that Kohlrabi at Wegmans, it was a small light green thing that looked sort of like a large garlic. So what do I do, just slice it thin and bake it? I do slice it thin and then bake it with a little oil and whatever spice I have a feeling for. One end of the Kohlrabi is really tough and hard to even get the peel off. I am looking for a mandolin to slice my veggies, right now I am using my meat slicer. Works but slices are a little thick on one side. I also slice them and make frenchfries with them... so far that is my favorite new veg.

Pxlkitty - havent tried broccolini, is it similar to rappini? tried that and didn't really like it. I will have to look for the broccolini

Brummie- I am sorry you aren't feeling well, I hope it is a virus and you get over it right away, and not because you are on a different phase. Good luck my friend.

Minewgoal - You are doing great, with all your stress. Hope you hear soon about the job. It took me a long time to get over the 190s as well and now have been stuck in the 170s for over a month...maybe today is the day.

Have a great one all.

Bellamack
08-15-2011, 03:20 PM
He really is a cutie. I am concerned about the potential for bone cancer given the prevalence in the OES. They say both diet and early "fixing" impact that. We can't wait as long as I would like to have him neutered (given that he is a rescue pup) but, we have waited to the early recommended point to give him the best long term chances. I also have had him on a diet more designed for dogs that experience rapid bone growth so we can try to slow him down a bit and create a more dense bone structure. Hopefully, the little guy (Frasier) will have a long life like your male did.

He has all that steady, calm, happy energy of the OES. I really only see poodle in his lighter bone frame and smaller head shape. I may be also seeing it in that he is black and white as opposed to the grey tones but, poodles will start black and sometimes fade to grey during the first year so, WHO KNOWS what his final colors may be!

Can I ask your experienced opinion? Do you think a young OES type male puppy would do well as an only dog in a family with 2 young, grade school age, children and no other dogs? I am thinking yes but, that is my only question if it is possible he should be put instead with older children or dogs. The family is definitely committed to started early training with him and has a very active lifestyle which he would participate in so, I THINK, he will be challenged enough physically and mentally to not develop to many bad puppy habits. Thoughts?

I dont think there is a better bread out there for small children. We got 2 because my husband and I both worked. The dogs had a large fenced yard and a garage to go into if the weather was not good (so funny though they loved laying in the snow). My daughter was in first grade when we got them, she named them Chip & Chomp. I had several nieces and nephews younger and we lived in a neighborhood with lots of kids. The sheepdogs always looked after them when out playing and if one of them fell and was crying, the female would be at the back door "tapping" immediately. The kids dressed them in "human" clothes and hats and put them in strollers and walked around the block (very easy going). My mother was blind and without formal training the male, would lead her and bark if there was a step or if he thought she was in danger, he also would sleep at the foot of her bed when she stayed with us and would guide her to the bathroom.

showgirlaz
08-15-2011, 03:24 PM
Hello All! Happy Monday!

So, as most of you know, I started phase 3 on Friday. Friday and Saturday went great. When I woke up on Sunday I was sick, sick, sick...tried eating my breakfast, but couldn't keep it down. Infact, I couldn't keep anything down...even water. I slept most of the day, so didn't get very much into my stomach (tried eating supper, but that didn't go too well either). I felt better this morning, but only managed about 1/3 of my breakfast, I bought the rest to work with me, thinking that I might be able to force it down...but, I just threw it in the garbage as it was turning my stomach a bit just to look at it. I'm thinking I feel sick because my stomach is empty (although, I am able to keep water down now).

My coach is out of town until Thursday, so I wanted to ask you guys if you think I should just carry on with phase 3, or revert back to phase 2...? I just don't know what kind of damage I have done (if any) - this is the first time I have been sick while on the program. Has anyone else gotten sick while on phase 3? what did you do?

Thanks in advance for any help with this!


If you are now able to keep food down, I would probably try going back to phase 1 and make up very diluted protein drinks (orange, pina colada, blueberry). You would be getting some nutrition and carbs and your body isn't so unfamiliar with that process. You could also step back to phase 2 and make a chicken soup with vegetables and have that for a few meals. It doesn't have to be too heavy in the veggies or, you could puree them to make more of a creamy texture.

Try the raspberry jelly warm if you have any. It can sometimes help.

If you are on phase 3 you are starting to have the big breakfast SO, if you want to add some carbs to your day, say a piece of dry whole grain toast, it sometimes calms the stomach, do it early in the day.

Some people do ok using plain yogurt when they are sick, Odd I know, but, you could try using it in the morning with your toast.


The common recommendation when someone is sick is a bland or BRAT diet. Basically, bananas, rice, green beans, broth, applesauce, tea and toast. If you think you can manage some of that see how you could work it in with the phase 3 morning process and then try to do some broth, chicken, and vegetables for lunch and dinner if you think you can tolerate it.

SOMETIMES, people respond well to using a bit of fresh ginger sliced and brewed in hot water as a tea. It tends to calm the stomach and has a slight cleansing effect.

I hope you feel better soon.

brummie
08-15-2011, 03:48 PM
Brummie- I am sorry you aren't feeling well, I hope it is a virus and you get over it right away, and not because you are on a different phase. Good luck my friend.



Thank you so much, my friend!! Wow! just look at you! You really do look like a different person from your before picture! I'm so very very proud of you!

If you are now able to keep food down, I would probably try going back to phase 1 and make up very diluted protein drinks (orange, pina colada, blueberry). You would be getting some nutrition and carbs and your body isn't so unfamiliar with that process. You could also step back to phase 2 and make a chicken soup with vegetables and have that for a few meals. It doesn't have to be too heavy in the veggies or, you could puree them to make more of a creamy texture.

Try the raspberry jelly warm if you have any. It can sometimes help.

If you are on phase 3 you are starting to have the big breakfast SO, if you want to add some carbs to your day, say a piece of dry whole grain toast, it sometimes calms the stomach, do it early in the day.

Some people do ok using plain yogurt when they are sick, Odd I know, but, you could try using it in the morning with your toast.


The common recommendation when someone is sick is a bland or BRAT diet. Basically, bananas, rice, green beans, broth, applesauce, tea and toast. If you think you can manage some of that see how you could work it in with the phase 3 morning process and then try to do some broth, chicken, and vegetables for lunch and dinner if you think you can tolerate it.

SOMETIMES, people respond well to using a bit of fresh ginger sliced and brewed in hot water as a tea. It tends to calm the stomach and has a slight cleansing effect.

I hope you feel better soon.

Thanks Carla! I'm sooooo glad you are back!
I have some ginger powder here at work, so I think I will whip up a tea. I cant believe I didnt think of that! (my mom used to give us jamaican ginger beer when we felt nauseaus as kids...yeah, we lied sometimes just to get the ginger beer!) I should have remembered that. I think I will also try your toast suggestion for lunch.
I know this sounds ungrateful (because so many are still trying to lose weight), but I really dont want to lose anymore, I am really happy with where I am at, so was worried about needing to phase back into phase 2 (or even 1). I weighed myself this morning and was at 136 (which was likely from my starvation yesterday) - I would really like to stick around 140 - so hopefully staying on Phase 3 and going into Phase 4 will balance that out

Thank you so much!

showgirlaz
08-15-2011, 04:13 PM
Hello All! Happy Monday!

So, as most of you know, I started phase 3 on Friday. Friday and Saturday went great. When I woke up on Sunday I was sick, sick, sick...tried eating my breakfast, but couldn't keep it down. Infact, I couldn't keep anything down...even water. I slept most of the day, so didn't get very much into my stomach (tried eating supper, but that didn't go too well either). I felt better this morning, but only managed about 1/3 of my breakfast, I bought the rest to work with me, thinking that I might be able to force it down...but, I just threw it in the garbage as it was turning my stomach a bit just to look at it. I'm thinking I feel sick because my stomach is empty (although, I am able to keep water down now).

My coach is out of town until Thursday, so I wanted to ask you guys if you think I should just carry on with phase 3, or revert back to phase 2...? I just don't know what kind of damage I have done (if any) - this is the first time I have been sick while on the program. Has anyone else gotten sick while on phase 3? what did you do?

Thanks in advance for any help with this!

Thank you so much, my friend!! Wow! just look at you! You really do look like a different person from your before picture! I'm so very very proud of you!



Thanks Carla! I'm sooooo glad you are back!
I have some ginger powder here at work, so I think I will whip up a tea. I cant believe I didnt think of that! (my mom used to give us jamaican ginger beer when we felt nauseaus as kids...yeah, we lied sometimes just to get the ginger beer!) I should have remembered that. I think I will also try your toast suggestion for lunch.
I know this sounds ungrateful (because so many are still trying to lose weight), but I really dont want to lose anymore, I am really happy with where I am at, so was worried about needing to phase back into phase 2 (or even 1). I weighed myself this morning and was at 136 (which was likely from my starvation yesterday) - I would really like to stick around 140 - so hopefully staying on Phase 3 and going into Phase 4 will balance that out

Thank you so much!

I hope the ginger trick works. :hug:

Just remember, you are on phase 3 not phase 4. You can only add the carbs early in the day, you want to create the single insulin spike in the morning.

Given you are sick, try to get food in but DO NOT carb load. It will defeat the purpose of this program. Remember you can always use the packets instead of heavier real protein. So, if for later in the day you need something use the drinks, soup, or restricted packets. Again, having a homemade soup as a dinner that uses a low sodium broth would be fine.

DO NOT have the extra carbs in the evening. Try to stick as close as possible to a phase 2 or 3 dinner. and a normal snack. It will help keep your blood sugars level and in a good place for the morning.

I hope tomorrow is a better day and you can keep moving on phase 3!

brummie
08-15-2011, 08:17 PM
ahhhh...I feel way better (even a little hungry for supper in an hour). I had the ginger tea just before lunch...didn't think I would be able to stomach the tuna, so had a pack of white cheddar ridges with my veggies and salad. I think that may have done the trick!

Back to phase 3 tomorrow!!

Thank you so much Carla! You really are a Superstaaaar!!

showgirlaz
08-16-2011, 12:16 AM
ahhhh...I feel way better (even a little hungry for supper in an hour). I had the ginger tea just before lunch...didn't think I would be able to stomach the tuna, so had a pack of white cheddar ridges with my veggies and salad. I think that may have done the trick!

Back to phase 3 tomorrow!!

Thank you so much Carla! You really are a Superstaaaar!!

:carrot: YEA!!! I am so happy for you that the tea option helped. I hate feeling sick to my stomach. Probably hate that worst of all the types of being sick.

I am sure you will do great tomorrow.

:hug:

capricious
08-16-2011, 12:34 AM
Pxlkitty- Congrats on the 140's!!!!!!!!!
2Ride- Loving your new avatar- what an unbelievable difference!!
LongDivision- I mix raspberries in with my greek yogurt, and when I say mix I mean mash so that they are no longer whole and are completely at one with the yogurt then I add a 1/3 C of granola- this really helps with texture, taste and adding protein... Hope this helps- it is still tart but the granola adds sweetness...
Welcome Back Carla...
Brummie- I hope you're feeling better... and able to fully phase 3 it again...good for you being happy where you're at- that is what we are all striving for!
I had my first WI in Phase 3 today and went down 1.5 to the shock of my coach who immediately wanted to see my diary... I will admit I was scared of gaining in Phase 3 and while I ate everything that was required I had 2 eggs as my lunch protein almost every day and had tuna for supper 5 out of 7 nights... Bah... Just can't wrap my head around it being okay to NOT lose and maybe, yes, I have to admit maybe, I would like to lose a bit more... very hard to say 'when'... but this weekend is my girls weekend and there will be alcohol involved- although after not having had any in four months I don't think it's going to take much for me to max out :D

Pxlkitty4
08-16-2011, 08:25 AM
ahhhh...I feel way better (even a little hungry for supper in an hour). I had the ginger tea just before lunch...didn't think I would be able to stomach the tuna, so had a pack of white cheddar ridges with my veggies and salad. I think that may have done the trick!

Back to phase 3 tomorrow!!

Thank you so much Carla! You really are a Superstaaaar!!

Glad that you are feeling better. and thank to Carla for some great advice, which I will tuck away in my brain for next time I get a nasty tummy bug... Can I add that you should make sure to take some probiotics? I know you might be getting them from yoghurt, but make sure you are getting them from somewhere.

Pxlkitty- Congrats on the 140's!!!!!!!!!
...
I had my first WI in Phase 3 today and went down 1.5 to the shock of my coach who immediately wanted to see my diary... I will admit I was scared of gaining in Phase 3 and while I ate everything that was required I had 2 eggs as my lunch protein almost every day and had tuna for supper 5 out of 7 nights... Bah... Just can't wrap my head around it being okay to NOT lose and maybe, yes, I have to admit maybe, I would like to lose a bit more... very hard to say 'when'... but this weekend is my girls weekend and there will be alcohol involved- although after not having had any in four months I don't think it's going to take much for me to max out :D

You are doing so well! Enjoy your girls' weekend... Let us know how you do with the alcohol. I can't wait for the elusive "glass of wine" in phase 4, but the whole concept still scares me a little.

woolberger
08-16-2011, 01:07 PM
Joanne (2ride),

At the risk of sounding like an idiot...when you make your kohlrabi chips with the pizza stone, do you preheat the stone in the oven before putting the slices on? Do you oil (non-stick spray) the stone? What temp?

I found my pizza stone in the bottom of my cupboard. Don't think I've used it in 10 years.

Thanks.
Lynn

Lucky Chick
08-16-2011, 01:20 PM
Ahhh... Lynn is still on her quest for chips for her salsa. :)

Have a great day everyone. I'm glad it is finally summer in the pacific NW.

MInewgoal
08-16-2011, 01:30 PM
You don't Spray a pizza stone. It gets seasoned with use.
Mine is well used and loved. I've broken 3 of them in the last year :( and everytime I cry...cuz I use them ALL the time!!
It should be pretty non-stick..even if you haven't cooked anything greasy on it yet.

Good luck!

brummie
08-16-2011, 01:39 PM
Brummie[/B]- I hope you're feeling better... and able to fully phase 3 it again...good for you being happy where you're at- that is what we are all striving for!
this weekend is my girls weekend and there will be alcohol involved- although after not having had any in four months I don't think it's going to take much for me to max out :D

Thanks Capri!! Feel way better today! I still can't get over how fantastic you look in your avatar! I actually bought my first denim skirt this weekend and I was thinking of your pic when I first saw it on the rack!

Glad that you are feeling better. and thank to Carla for some great advice, which I will tuck away in my brain for next time I get a nasty tummy bug... Can I add that you should make sure to take some probiotics? I know you might be getting them from yoghurt, but make sure you are getting them from somewhere.



This is a great advice too. I took this advice and just ordered a pack of probiotic yogurt starter (I love to make my own). I've read your posts on probiotics before - can you remind me which brand of supplements you buy? After how sick I felt yesterday, I want to be fully armed with every possible concoction, just in case. Like you, Carla...I hate the feeling of needing to throw up! I'd rather have cramps!!
On the topic of drinking...I'm really interested in finding out just how much wine I will be able to handle after almost 5 months of nothing (although I did accidentally swallow some mouthwash a couple of weeks ago!!). I used to be able to put away an entire bottle of white before IP! I'm planning my first drink for my birthday on Sept 11th - We have the most beautiful vineyards in the world in our valley - I'm going to splurge on the best grigio I can find!

Have a great day everyone!!!

woolberger
08-16-2011, 01:56 PM
Ahhh... Lynn is still on her quest for chips for her salsa. :)

Have a great day everyone. I'm glad it is finally summer in the pacific NW.

Drat! Caught! :o

woolberger
08-16-2011, 01:59 PM
You don't Spray a pizza stone. It gets seasoned with use.
Mine is well used and loved. I've broken 3 of them in the last year :( and everytime I cry...cuz I use them ALL the time!!
It should be pretty non-stick..even if you haven't cooked anything greasy on it yet.

Good luck!

Thanks!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-16-2011, 05:49 PM
Joanne (2ride),

At the risk of sounding like an idiot...when you make your kohlrabi chips with the pizza stone, do you preheat the stone in the oven before putting the slices on? Do you oil (non-stick spray) the stone? What temp?

I found my pizza stone in the bottom of my cupboard. Don't think I've used it in 10 years.

Thanks.
Lynnwhat Minewgoal said... I do preheat my stone in the oven. I cook them around 400 for about 10 -20 min depends on how thin you slice them.

Pxlkitty4
08-16-2011, 09:52 PM
Can you remind me which brand of supplements you buy?

Udo's Choice Adult's Blend Probiotic. Thank you for reminding me to take mine...

brummie
08-16-2011, 10:08 PM
Thanks Pxlkitty! I am heading into town tomorrow and will pick some up!

Here's a question for anyone and everyone....in phase 3 if my pancreas is resetting itself, I'm assuming that I am coming out of ketosis, but how come I have ketosis breath again? I haven't had it for weeks...and today it was back with a vengence! It leaves a pretty distinctive taste in my mouth (so i know it's not mid-day morning breath...plus, I brushed my teeth and tongue way too many times today!)....anyone?

showgirlaz
08-16-2011, 10:10 PM
In phase 3, you will be out of ketosis in a day or two UNLESS you aren't getting enough carbs in the morning. Now, that said, you've been sick so, being dehydrated and fasting can cause a natural increase in ketones.

It may just be your unique situation.

Try more water to dilute the ketones and the breath should improve.

brummie
08-16-2011, 10:15 PM
In phase 3, you will be out of ketosis in a day or two UNLESS you aren't getting enough carbs in the morning. Now, that said, you've been sick so, being dehydrated and fasting can cause a natural increase in ketones.

It may just be your unique situation.

Try more water to dilute the ketones and the breath should improve.

LOL! Am I stalking you or are you stalking me??? I feel like we are following each other around the forum!!
I've said it before, but I'll say it again...I'm so glad you are back. Don't you go anywhere missy!!

Thanks again Carla!!! (PS...so I have you to thank for the salt water flush eh? Well, at least I know it works!)

JudoGirl
08-17-2011, 09:35 AM
Morning everyone...its been awhile since I posted and I miss the group..Excited to be back talking to everyone...

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2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-17-2011, 10:48 AM
Morning everyone...its been awhile since I posted and I miss the group..Excited to be back talking to everyone...

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Welcome back Judo, I was wondering about you. I figured your new clinic is doing great and you were too busy for us... have a good day.

jennydoodle
08-17-2011, 11:51 AM
Hi All! I posted this in the daily thread, but wanted to share here too. Not only did I get into the 140's today, I am WELL into the 140's. WI today brought me to 146.6. Another 10# and I will start P2 and I am about 15# from goal, I can almost taste it. I did bootcamp for the last 4 days and am about to start BC for a full week. Trying to pick up a couple of big losses the next couple of weeks.

I have 5 weeks until our big vacation and I am totally focused on getting as close to goal as possible before we head out. It is totally my motivator and what has kept me on track all this time. I just spoke with my coach this morning and my vacation plan is to do P2 for 1 week and P3 for 1 week before I head out and follow maintainence while I am away. Then come back and get back on P1 to get to goal and start phasing off for good.

It's amazing, I actually feel like there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Treena
08-17-2011, 12:01 PM
JudoGirl, welcome back! It's great to see you! How has everything been going at the clinic? :hug:

Jennydoodle: I'm so excited for you!! I love the feeling of seeing the light at the end of the tunnel (and it keeps getting closer). Congrats!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-17-2011, 12:31 PM
Hi All! I posted this in the daily thread, but wanted to share here too. Not only did I get into the 140's today, I am WELL into the 140's. WI today brought me to 146.6. Another 10# and I will start P2 and I am about 15# from goal, I can almost taste it. I did bootcamp for the last 4 days and am about to start BC for a full week. Trying to pick up a couple of big losses the next couple of weeks.

I have 5 weeks until our big vacation and I am totally focused on getting as close to goal as possible before we head out. It is totally my motivator and what has kept me on track all this time. I just spoke with my coach this morning and my vacation plan is to do P2 for 1 week and P3 for 1 week before I head out and follow maintainence while I am away. Then come back and get back on P1 to get to goal and start phasing off for good.

It's amazing, I actually feel like there is light at the end of the tunnel.That is so great, I am so excited for you... isn't it great when all our hard work pays off?

showgirlaz
08-17-2011, 12:38 PM
LOL! Am I stalking you or are you stalking me??? I feel like we are following each other around the forum!!
I've said it before, but I'll say it again...I'm so glad you are back. Don't you go anywhere missy!!

Thanks again Carla!!! (PS...so I have you to thank for the salt water flush eh? Well, at least I know it works!)

:o

Guess we were just the only ones on around the same time yesterday! Yes, that suggestion was mine. It does work, doesn't it! Unfortunately, it doesn't work the same for everyone. It is an old thing I learned from my mother which, my sister used to also use. I think it is part of another cleanse too. In any case, it has been around for a very long time.

Hi All! I posted this in the daily thread, but wanted to share here too. Not only did I get into the 140's today, I am WELL into the 140's. WI today brought me to 146.6. Another 10# and I will start P2 and I am about 15# from goal, I can almost taste it. I did bootcamp for the last 4 days and am about to start BC for a full week. Trying to pick up a couple of big losses the next couple of weeks.

I have 5 weeks until our big vacation and I am totally focused on getting as close to goal as possible before we head out. It is totally my motivator and what has kept me on track all this time. I just spoke with my coach this morning and my vacation plan is to do P2 for 1 week and P3 for 1 week before I head out and follow maintainence while I am away. Then come back and get back on P1 to get to goal and start phasing off for good.

It's amazing, I actually feel like there is light at the end of the tunnel.


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That is GREAT!! I bet it made for a fantastic start to your day! You will be in a really good place for vacation.

jordanna
08-17-2011, 01:06 PM
Jennydoodle- woohoo congrats!! You are amazing!!

Pxlkitty4
08-17-2011, 01:22 PM
Reading through results of my physical.

Cholesterol is 159 (211 before diet)
Triglycerides are 53
HDL is 62
LDL is 86

Don't remember all numbers before, but I AM THRILLED!
I will look up my old stats and post later.

brummie
08-17-2011, 02:03 PM
Reading through results of my physical.

Cholesterol is 159 (211 before diet)
Triglycerides are 53
HDL is 62
LDL is 86

Don't remember all numbers before, but I AM THRILLED!
I will look up my old stats and post later.

You SHOULD be thrilled! that is fantastic news, well done pxlkitty!!

brummie
08-17-2011, 02:26 PM
TORIDE: I just saw your updated progress pic! Girlfriend, you look fantastic! If you compare the middle before pic (from your brothers wedding) to the latest one - you literally look decades younger! I'm so proud of you, my friend!! Thanks for sharing!

BTW: How is FannyMae doing? haven't seen her on the forum lately, I know she was gearing up for her wedding...?

jennydoodle
08-17-2011, 03:17 PM
Thanks for all the support ladies and the encouragement! This is why I absolutely love this website. I also forgot to mention that I am going to get my body fat tested this weekend (they do it at my gym). I am really interested in seeing how much I went down. Last time I was at 35% :o I am hoping for a 10% loss.

Pxlkitty4
08-17-2011, 03:30 PM
Thanks for all the support ladies and the encouragement! This is why I absolutely love this website. I also forgot to mention that I am going to get my body fat tested this weekend (they do it at my gym). I am really interested in seeing how much I went down. Last time I was at 35% :o I am hoping for a 10% loss.

If they have the little thing that you put your hands on (looks like a steering wheel kinda), they have a big error range. It really is more a measure of fat AND how hydrated you are.

http://caloriecount.about.com/dehydration-body-fat-ft88461

Take it with a grain of salt if that's what they are using. But, that said, you are doing really well! Keep up the great work...

M0vingon
08-17-2011, 03:42 PM
Hey all you gorgeous, experienced women! (are there any men around here anymore?)
I'm 20lbs from my goal weight and I'm trying to figure out when to move to phase 2. Info on the board says both 80% and 90% of weight loss, but I care more about what those who have moved to phase 2 have done. Honestly, 80% seems too early.:?:
Thinking "I can do 12 more lbs on phase 1" has renewed my motivation.

brummie
08-17-2011, 04:14 PM
Thanks for all the support ladies and the encouragement! This is why I absolutely love this website. I also forgot to mention that I am going to get my body fat tested this weekend (they do it at my gym). I am really interested in seeing how much I went down. Last time I was at 35% :o I am hoping for a 10% loss.

Good luck, Jenny! Let us know how it goes!

Hey all you gorgeous, experienced women! (are there any men around here anymore?)
I'm 20lbs from my goal weight and I'm trying to figure out when to move to phase 2. Info on the board says both 80% and 90% of weight loss, but I care more about what those who have moved to phase 2 have done. Honestly, 80% seems too early.:?:
Thinking "I can do 12 more lbs on phase 1" has renewed my motivation.

Hi Cindy,

When I reached 140, I decided that I really didn't want to lose much more (my face was looking really gaunt, to me anyway). I did phase 2 for one week and am now on phase 3. I was 137.8 on the scale this morning, so I'm still waiting for that gain that will come either now or in phase 4. I know there has been a lot of discussion around starting phase 2 when you are past your goal, to give yourself some 'growing' room...but honestly, you will keep losing on Phase 2 and you can stay on phase 2 for a while (unlike phase 3 which is for a max of 2 weeks). If nothing else, it's worth starting phase 2 just for the $$ savings.
At the end of the day, you have to decide what is best for you - I agree that 80% may be a little too early. Diet fatigue is a big factor, I read somewhere that from an emotional standpoint diet fatigue can actually make you regress back to your bad habits if you don't deal with it and phase out properly.
You are so close! why don't you go with your original plan and stick to phase 1 until you lose the next 12, then go to phase 2 (I must say that the last 10lbs I lost have been the most significant 'visually'.
That's just my 2 cents

Pxlkitty4
08-17-2011, 05:24 PM
Hey all you gorgeous, experienced women! (are there any men around here anymore?)
I'm 20lbs from my goal weight and I'm trying to figure out when to move to phase 2. Info on the board says both 80% and 90% of weight loss, but I care more about what those who have moved to phase 2 have done. Honestly, 80% seems too early.:?:
Thinking "I can do 12 more lbs on phase 1" has renewed my motivation.

I am staying on Phase 1 until I reach 145, which is my goal. I will then go to Phase 2 for 2 weeks to "see what happens" and anything weight loss there is a bonus. I know that it's normal to gain a few pounds back during Phase 3 b/c glycogen. That said, I have phase 2 days here and there when I am going out to eat at lunch and dinner, or if I'm mentally struggling with the program. It helps me feel free... I have done them once every few weeks for the past 6 weeks. It really does help. Take it a day at a time, don't think in weeks...

jennydoodle
08-17-2011, 06:11 PM
If they have the little thing that you put your hands on (looks like a steering wheel kinda), they have a big error range. It really is more a measure of fat AND how hydrated you are.

http://caloriecount.about.com/dehydration-body-fat-ft88461

Take it with a grain of salt if that's what they are using. But, that said, you are doing really well! Keep up the great work...

It is with the calipers, so it is more accurate (I think!)

Pxlkitty4
08-17-2011, 09:38 PM
Revising now that I am home...

Cholesterol is AFTER:159 BEFORE: 211
Triglycerides AFTER: 53 BEFORE: 104
HDL AFTER: 62 BEFORE: 70
LDL AFTER: 86 BEFORE: 129

Pxlkitty4
08-17-2011, 09:47 PM
It is with the calipers, so it is more accurate (I think!)

You are SO lucky that they do it that way. That's WAY more accurate. Let us know how it goes!

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-18-2011, 12:58 AM
TORIDE: I just saw your updated progress pic! Girlfriend, you look fantastic! If you compare the middle before pic (from your brothers wedding) to the latest one - you literally look decades younger! I'm so proud of you, my friend!! Thanks for sharing!

BTW: How is FannyMae doing? haven't seen her on the forum lately, I know she was gearing up for her wedding...? Thanks Brummie,:hug::hug: the last one was monday (as it happens my brother's birthday) I went to mark's work wearhouse as they were having a sale, the dress I first tried on was a medium and it fit everywhere except in the chest they were exploding over the top and then the other was too big as it was an XL but that was all they had but I just had to take a picture of it anyway... It is nice to look younger, I think the tanned face helps too...

Fanny Mae had to go off of IP, she is on new medication that creates a low sugar in her system already so she had to come off until everything levels out, she is still losing but a lot slower now. She hopes to return some day.

Hey all you gorgeous, experienced women! (are there any men around here anymore?)
I'm 20lbs from my goal weight and I'm trying to figure out when to move to phase 2. Info on the board says both 80% and 90% of weight loss, but I care more about what those who have moved to phase 2 have done. Honestly, 80% seems too early.:?:
Thinking "I can do 12 more lbs on phase 1" has renewed my motivation.I am with pxlkitty, even though they say 80% or 90%, my clinic says 90% but now that I have a new coach she is thinking I should phase out shortly as she thinks I don't have anything else to lose. WELL I beg to differ and I am going for my 140 and hopefully I will get there in the near future. After all this is the second time I have been at 165 as well so am holding my breath and hoping for do I dare say? 161 this next wi... that is pushing it with a 4 lb loss two weeks in a row but how awesome would it be to be 80lbs down and only 20 to go... even though I know the last 10 are going to be super hard I am gearing up and getting down to business, whether I do bootcamp for the next month I am going to get there. :hug:

MInewgoal
08-18-2011, 10:23 AM
I am staying on Phase 1 until I reach 145, which is my goal. I will then go to Phase 2 for 2 weeks to "see what happens" and anything weight loss there is a bonus. I know that it's normal to gain a few pounds back during Phase 3 b/c glycogen. That said, I have phase 2 days here and there when I am going out to eat at lunch and dinner, or if I'm mentally struggling with the program. It helps me feel free... I have done them once every few weeks for the past 6 weeks. It really does help. Take it a day at a time, don't think in weeks...

This is for the most part what I'm doing. I'm doing phase 1 for well...2.5 more weeks now, and then doing phase 2 for 2 weeks- like pxlkitty, to kind of see where that puts me, then on to phase 3. I'm really happy being a size 6, and since I'm for the most part in that size, I'm good to phase off. I want that little bit of wiggle room though. Not sure how smart it will be to coinside the start of a new job with a new diet phase..but we'll see...LOL!

M0vingon
08-18-2011, 10:29 AM
Brummie, Pxlkitty, 2Ride & Minewgoal- thanks for the input on my question! :D

I don't know if I will have the stamina to go under my goal on phase 1, but I am definitely going to get to at least 90% before I think about phase 2. I would really like to end up around 175 for the long term, so the 170 goal accomodates some gain. After that, I'm looking strictly at exercise to alter my shape and tone up.

This week I have been eating a bit (like an ounce) of meat with my lunch veggies and salad and not only does it make me feel better through the day, it may have helped push me over the hump. I am also eating my restricted at lunch or breakfast now. I can keep doing that until I get to a real phase 2 because if phase 2 slows my losses any more I may be on it for a year! LOL

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-18-2011, 10:59 AM
This is for the most part what I'm doing. I'm doing phase 1 for well...2.5 more weeks now, and then doing phase 2 for 2 weeks- like pxlkitty, to kind of see where that puts me, then on to phase 3. I'm really happy being a size 6, and since I'm for the most part in that size, I'm good to phase off. I want that little bit of wiggle room though. Not sure how smart it will be to coinside the start of a new job with a new diet phase..but we'll see...LOL!

HEY YOU GOT THE JOB!!! that is great...way to go. I am very happy for you.:hug::hug:

MInewgoal
08-18-2011, 11:19 AM
HEY YOU GOT THE JOB!!! that is great...way to go. I am very happy for you.:hug::hug:

I did!! Thanks for the encouragement! You've been an awesome cheerleader for me ;)!
So Has Mamarix and Pxlkitty! The three of you have been so supportive! I appreciate you all though!!
:hug:

Bellamack
08-18-2011, 11:22 AM
MInewgoal,

Congrats on the job!

Pxlkitty4
08-18-2011, 11:24 AM
I did!! Thanks for the encouragement! You've been an awesome cheerleader for me ;)!
So Has Mamarix and Pxlkitty! The three of you have been so supportive! I appreciate you all though!!
:hug:

WAHOO!!!! If it's too much to start a new job and a new diet phase, just bounce around between Phase 1 and Phase 2 and do whatever works for you that day. You might be on Phase 3, though, which would just make breakfast different. And, breakfasts can be planned the night before (yogrut, granola, fruit breakfast anyway)... SO happy for you.

brummie
08-18-2011, 02:09 PM
I had an interesting NSV when I came into work today.
A couple of years ago, I had to have a special office chair bought in because the (economical) chairs that they have here were not built for my then 220lb frame, and were giving me all sorts of back and hip issues. So an ergonomic, wider chair was purchased for me. (yes, at the time, I wanted the earth to open up and swallow me whole because I was so embarassed!). Today, lo and behold, the chair was gone and replaced with a new slimline one. I asked my boss about it and she said that the other one was needed elsewhere, and that she was so proud of me that she wanted to reward me with a snazzy new one. I just said OK and thank you (I guess?) and headed back to my office, on the way back I spotted my old wide-load chair in the office of a co-worker. This co-worker has done nothing but criticize my loss, lectured me constantly about how important my pancreas is and has continued to offer me foods that she knows are a big no-no.....all the while stuffing her mouth with anything she could get her hands on! I'm guessing that she is well over 240lbs, so I've always tuned her out. I haven't seen her yet today...but is this ever justice or what??

I can't help thinking that my boss is being a sly ol' fox and doing this on purpose (she has told this co-worker to leave me alone and mind her own business a couple of times) to teach her a lesson.

Just as a side note, this co-worker tried it on with my hubby about a year ago (she actually told him that he could do better then me!)

jennylauren19
08-18-2011, 02:24 PM
I had an interesting NSV when I came into work today.
A couple of years ago, I had to have a special office chair bought in because the (economical) chairs that they have here were not built for my then 220lb frame, and were giving me all sorts of back and hip issues. So an ergonomic, wider chair was purchased for me. (yes, at the time, I wanted the earth to open up and swallow me whole because I was so embarassed!). Today, lo and behold, the chair was gone and replaced with a new slimline one. I asked my boss about it and she said that the other one was needed elsewhere, and that she was so proud of me that she wanted to reward me with a snazzy new one. I just said OK and thank you (I guess?) and headed back to my office, on the way back I spotted my old wide-load chair in the office of a co-worker. This co-worker has done nothing but criticize my loss, lectured me constantly about how important my pancreas is and has continued to offer me foods that she knows are a big no-no.....all the while stuffing her mouth with anything she could get her hands on! I'm guessing that she is well over 240lbs, so I've always tuned her out. I haven't seen her yet today...but is this ever justice or what??

I can't help thinking that my boss is being a sly ol' fox and doing this on purpose (she has told this co-worker to leave me alone and mind her own business a couple of times) to teach her a lesson.

Just as a side note, this co-worker tried it on with my hubby about a year ago (she actually told him that he could do better then me!)

What a great story!! You're boss sounds pretty supportive, and it's so nice that she has recognized your personal accomplishment (while sticking it to your rude co-worker)!

Tonz
08-18-2011, 02:57 PM
Brummie, great NSV! OK, what's the deal with this diet harming our pancreas? I've seen this in several posts.

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-18-2011, 03:26 PM
Brummie, I like your boss.. she sounds great.

my nsv, one of the ladies in the office I am in today (she is taller and skinny) said that every time she sees me I am just fading away. Oh and one of the guy's I use to work with in the beginning saw me today and said great job... very happy to be where I am and hoping to look even better.

Determinedat47
08-18-2011, 03:31 PM
Thanks Brummie,:hug::hug: the last one was monday (as it happens my brother's birthday) I went to mark's work wearhouse as they were having a sale, the dress I first tried on was a medium and it fit everywhere except in the chest they were exploding over the top and then the other was too big as it was an XL but that was all they had but I just had to take a picture of it anyway... It is nice to look younger, I think the tanned face helps too...

Fanny Mae had to go off of IP, she is on new medication that creates a low sugar in her system already so she had to come off until everything levels out, she is still losing but a lot slower now. She hopes to return some day.

I am with pxlkitty, even though they say 80% or 90%, my clinic says 90% but now that I have a new coach she is thinking I should phase out shortly as she thinks I don't have anything else to lose. WELL I beg to differ and I am going for my 140 and hopefully I will get there in the near future. After all this is the second time I have been at 165 as well so am holding my breath and hoping for do I dare say? 161 this next wi... that is pushing it with a 4 lb loss two weeks in a row but how awesome would it be to be 80lbs down and only 20 to go... even though I know the last 10 are going to be super hard I am gearing up and getting down to business, whether I do bootcamp for the next month I am going to get there. :hug:

2ride, Your pictures show a dramatic weight loss but I like the one you had posted where you were smiling. These pictures look so serious-like a police lineup! Great job on the weight loss-you are my inspiration. You've come a looong way baby!

jennydoodle
08-18-2011, 03:44 PM
Had a little NSV myself yesterday, one of the girls at my gym called me "The Incredibly Shrinking Woman". It was cute and funny, and it made me feel good.

Also, to comment on the 80%-90% discussion. It is my intention to get to 135 on P1, then stay on P2 until I hit 130. I would like to maintain between 130 & 135. That is just what I am thinking about NOW. I don't really know exactly what my goal weight will be because I want to go more by sizes than my weight.

brummie
08-18-2011, 03:50 PM
What a great story!! You're boss sounds pretty supportive, and it's so nice that she has recognized your personal accomplishment (while sticking it to your rude co-worker)!

My boss really is a star (unfortunately, she is retiring this year!) - she remembers everyones birthday, knows the names of all of our kids and has a very supportive shoulder (which has been cried on many times!)

Brummie, great NSV! OK, what's the deal with this diet harming our pancreas? I've seen this in several posts.

We are resetting our pancreas on this program. Some people just can't accept that and believe that we are shutting her down permanently!

Brummie, I like your boss.. she sounds great.

my nsv, one of the ladies in the office I am in today (she is taller and skinny) said that every time she sees me I am just fading away. Oh and one of the guy's I use to work with in the beginning saw me today and said great job... very happy to be where I am and hoping to look even better.

Guys are waaaaay more complimentary then women...anyone else notice that?
2RIDE, you look stunning already, those guys are going to be chasing you around the office soon! Say, remember a while back you were going to a make up party and your friend was going to jazz you up and make you her model? Did you do that yet?

Pxlkitty4
08-18-2011, 05:15 PM
Brummie, great NSV! OK, what's the deal with this diet harming our pancreas? I've seen this in several posts.

I just got bloodwork results back from my very detailed physical last week. I will quote you from the report... "You have made great strides this year to improve your health. Keep up the good work." My lab results are glowing!

Lucky Chick
08-18-2011, 05:35 PM
I just got bloodwork results back from my very detailed physical last week. I will quote you from the report... "You have made great strides this year to improve your health. Keep up the good work." My lab results are glowing!

Congrats, Dr. Pxlkitty! You are one of the IP stars! :broc:

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-18-2011, 05:47 PM
2ride, Your pictures show a dramatic weight loss but I like the one you had posted where you were smiling. These pictures look so serious-like a police lineup! Great job on the weight loss-you are my inspiration. You've come a looong way baby!

yes they are my drivers license photos. I will change shortly.

Determinedat47
08-18-2011, 05:51 PM
yes they are my drivers license photos. I will change shortly.

But, I must add that if these 2 pictures were in a police line up, I would NEVER recognize them as the same person in a million years! Way To Go!

disgal
08-18-2011, 07:24 PM
I just got bloodwork results back from my very detailed physical last week. I will quote you from the report... "You have made great strides this year to improve your health. Keep up the good work." My lab results are glowing!

Woot woot!!:carrot: Way to go!!!

Pxlkitty4
08-18-2011, 10:38 PM
But, I must add that if these 2 pictures were in a police line up, I would NEVER recognize them as the same person in a million years! Way To Go!

:rofl:

Seriously, that's why I started the diet. It was cheaper and more effective than the witness protection program. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

M0vingon
08-19-2011, 12:39 AM
:rofl:

Seriously, that's why I started the diet. It was cheaper and more effective than the witness protection program. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Too funny! :D

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-19-2011, 01:24 AM
:rofl:

Seriously, that's why I started the diet. It was cheaper and more effective than the witness protection program. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:made me laugh, it apparently works...

So today I was down at the main office of our department and the Manager walked right past me, then turned and said I walked right past you... I said yes you did. She then said she didn't recognize me she thought I was just one of those clients that come in to see someone.... she also said to me you are never going back are you? (this was after I told her I had about 20lb more to lose) and I said no I won't be going back, this was a battle that I am going to win. She said good for you. ( this coming from a runner who is maybe 100 lbs soaking wet)... I am still getting aren't you finished yet? and your done now right? My friend was kind of shocked when I told her twenty more pounds, then I explained to her the last 10 lbs will get rid of my hanging bat wings and then I know I will be finished... I could tell she thought I was nuts but... I have to try it, and if it isn't to be I am going to sure try to see it through.... I just think 100 lbs loss is such a BIG goal that I know I can do it and I want to finish it. Have a great night everyone....:hug::hug:

Kind of nice still getting wow and your skinny, and every time I see you you are a different size. I still don't see it even though I know I am thinner than anyone in Edmonton has ever seen me except for one person who I grew up with, she remembers me as a skinny little thing... Tried on some size 7 jeans from my closet today... they fit,a little tight but they had no pockets and for work I really need pockets. So I settled for size 8 jeans instead. who would of thought me in size 7 & 8... now onto 6s.:D

patns
08-19-2011, 02:26 AM
Love the picture of the dogs! I didn't realize the red dog was so tiny. Must be like a little tornado being so active.

That is so neat about the size 7 &8 jeans, it must be so much fun to be trying the new sizes.

I had to smile when I read about the pockets. I was working with a nine year old today and he was demonstrating how he couldn't get his gum out of his pocket because he was wearing "size 8, skinny". He was quite pleased that he couldn't get the gum out because it would prove to his mom he needed size 10. So his aim is the opposite of ours, he wants bigger sizes.

Pxlkitty4
08-19-2011, 09:21 AM
My friend was kind of shocked when I told her twenty more pounds, then I explained to her the last 10 lbs will get rid of my hanging bat wings and then I know I will be finished... I could tell she thought I was nuts but... I have to try it, and if it isn't to be I am going to sure try to see it through.... I just think 100 lbs loss is such a BIG goal that I know I can do it and I want to finish it. Have a great night everyone....:hug::hug:


I know you can do it!

As for discussng the "rest of the weight", if it's a close friend, by all means talk about the rest of the weight. I discussed the bat wing thing with my pilates instructor last night, after she tried to kill my legs, arms, and abs with exercise. I'm going to research specific exercises for triceps, since that is really where the bat wing flab needs toning. I was very surprised at how very tiny changes in the exercises really targeted the right muscles. I also learned that my right shoulder muscles are very tight in the front, which prevents me from strengthening the muscles in the back (includng the triceps). She showed me some good stretches using a foam roller that can help open up my chest muscles.

I've also heard about "fat flush cranberry water" (1 oz unsweetened cranberry juice plus 7 oz water) that helps with cell nutrition and can help with cellulite, and will incorporate that back into my diet on phase 3. Unsweetened cranberry juice has something like 8 carbs per 8 oz, so you can drink a ton of cranberry water throughout the day and not get too many carbs at any one time. Google "fat flush". There are good recipes too that I will use for maintenance.

I no longer talk about how much more I have to lose with most people. I took my coach's advice and just say "Yes, I'm done. Thanks. It really worked." then I change the subject. I don't need people's criticism, especially because most people are trying to make themselves feel better by criticizing something about what I'm doing. All I can say is "look at my weight, look at how much nicer I dress now that I feel good about myself, look at my bloodwork results, and look at my smile." This has been the best thing that I have ever done for myself. Period.

M0vingon
08-19-2011, 10:21 AM
I know you can do it!

As for discussng the "rest of the weight", if it's a close friend, by all means talk about the rest of the weight. I discussed the bat wing thing with my pilates instructor last night, after she tried to kill my legs, arms, and abs with exercise. I'm going to research specific exercises for triceps, since that is really where the bat wing flab needs toning. I was very surprised at how very tiny changes in the exercises really targeted the right muscles. I also learned that my right shoulder muscles are very tight in the front, which prevents me from strengthening the muscles in the back (includng the triceps). She showed me some good stretches using a foam roller that can help open up my chest muscles.

I've also heard about "fat flush cranberry water" (1 oz unsweetened cranberry juice plus 7 oz water) that helps with cell nutrition and can help with cellulite, and will incorporate that back into my diet on phase 3. Unsweetened cranberry juice has something like 8 carbs per 8 oz, so you can drink a ton of cranberry water throughout the day and not get too many carbs at any one time. Google "fat flush". There are good recipes too that I will use for maintenance.

I no longer talk about how much more I have to lose with most people. I took my coach's advice and just say "Yes, I'm done. Thanks. It really worked." then I change the subject. I don't need people's criticism, especially because most people are trying to make themselves feel better by criticizing something about what I'm doing. All I can say is "look at my weight, look at how much nicer I dress now that I feel good about myself, look at my bloodwork results, and look at my smile." This has been the best thing that I have ever done for myself. Period.

I'm always excited when you talkabout Pilates because I can't wait to get back for more!

I have to share that since the beginning of IP I have told everyone that i'm changing my eating for life and that the weight loss is just a benefit of fixing my body (hypoglycemia). I have had a few people tell me not to lose any more weight, and my response is "I think my weight will stabilize soon". That shuts them up :D I truly did start IP for the health benefit. The weight loss is amazing, but not dealing with blood sugar problems trumps that any day.

Tonz
08-19-2011, 11:02 AM
I'm going to research specific exercises for triceps, since that is really where the bat wing flab needs toning. I was very surprised at how very tiny changes in the exercises really targeted the right muscles. .

Don't forget to share the exercises for the tricep. I know I'm suffering from "bat wing flab" too!!!!!

Josephine216
08-19-2011, 11:18 AM
Hi,

I had stopped for the summer but now I'm back and need to lose the last 20 pounds. I love this site, it's been such help to me. Just wanted to say hi to everyone.

I'm back and very excited!!

JackieGee
08-19-2011, 11:47 AM
I can tell you about tricep exercises (believe it or not, I did get certified as a personal trainer although I haven't used it yet. My goal at the time was to have it as a post-retirement career and to be the oldest personal trainer in Canada).

I will see if I can find some youtube videos (when I get home from work) to demonstrate them.

There are several that need a gym: tricep pushdowns for example. But if you have simple weights you could do tricept kickbacks. You lean over and brace yourself on a bench or chair. You hold a light weight (start with light weights because the tricep is a pretty small muscle and you don't want to tear anything) with your arm straight out behind you. Then keeping your upper arm stationary, you bend your forearm arm so that the weight heads towards the floor. Then you straighten it back up.

Do that for 8 to 12 reps depending on the weight and then repeat on the other side.

Repeat that for 3 times.

If you have a barbell you can also do headcrushers. You lay on a bench or on the floor and hold a LIGHT barbell above your head. Again keeping your upper arm stationary, you lower the barbell down just bending at the elbow and then raise it again.

Or with light dumbells, you can hold the dumbell, raise your arm above your head. I suggest you hold your upper arm lightly to keep it still and then lower the forearm slowly down, bending your elbow. Then raise it again. Again 3 times on each side.

However, when you exercise one muscle you must also exercise the opposing one. So you would also need to do a bicep exercise. Like bicep curls for example.

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-19-2011, 11:50 AM
I know you can do it!

As for discussng the "rest of the weight", if it's a close friend, by all means talk about the rest of the weight. I discussed the bat wing thing with my pilates instructor last night, after she tried to kill my legs, arms, and abs with exercise. I'm going to research specific exercises for triceps, since that is really where the bat wing flab needs toning. I was very surprised at how very tiny changes in the exercises really targeted the right muscles. I also learned that my right shoulder muscles are very tight in the front, which prevents me from strengthening the muscles in the back (includng the triceps). She showed me some good stretches using a foam roller that can help open up my chest muscles.

I've also heard about "fat flush cranberry water" (1 oz unsweetened cranberry juice plus 7 oz water) that helps with cell nutrition and can help with cellulite, and will incorporate that back into my diet on phase 3. Unsweetened cranberry juice has something like 8 carbs per 8 oz, so you can drink a ton of cranberry water throughout the day and not get too many carbs at any one time. Google "fat flush". There are good recipes too that I will use for maintenance.

I no longer talk about how much more I have to lose with most people. I took my coach's advice and just say "Yes, I'm done. Thanks. It really worked." then I change the subject. I don't need people's criticism, especially because most people are trying to make themselves feel better by criticizing something about what I'm doing. All I can say is "look at my weight, look at how much nicer I dress now that I feel good about myself, look at my bloodwork results, and look at my smile." This has been the best thing that I have ever done for myself. Period. Thank you and yes please share with us some of the exercises if you can...

Patns - That is the only pic I have of them that close together... that was when Red dog was 4 months old... she is now about an inch smaller than my old girl...

Coyote saga continues... Garbage day today so last night before I went to bed I took out my garbage, well Red dog did bark a couple of times in the night... this morning I found garbage all over my lawn... and while walking the dogs (on leash) I could hear the coyotes yipping back and forth to each other... great now I have to be careful Red dog doesn't get suckered into the pack to be killed.

MInewgoal
08-19-2011, 12:51 PM
For my arms I just started doing pushups (chest and shoulders and biceps) then I do dips (triceps). I only started this week, so I don't see a difference yet. But as Aunt Sheeshie suggested, I'm doing major stretches after. She called them Facia stretching..I think????

I'm really hoping that I can tone them up some. Glad they thinned down a little though. Just hope to lose that hangy look they have :(

TooRide- I really hope that red dog doesn't get involved with the coyotes. How scary! Good luck keeping him/her leashed. Sounds like he'd much rather run.

Pxlkitty4
08-19-2011, 01:21 PM
I can tell you about tricep exercises (believe it or not, I did get certified as a personal trainer although I haven't used it yet. My goal at the time was to have it as a post-retirement career and to be the oldest personal trainer in Canada).

I will see if I can find some youtube videos (when I get home from work) to demonstrate them.


I'm going to start a google doc for arm exercises and we can all edit it. I have a bad wrist, so there are lots of great exercises that I have to modify or avoid (the dip)... I will post when I've got my act together.

Pxlkitty4
08-19-2011, 01:36 PM
Check this out. Add exercises as you learn about them... and I think google docs allows you to include links to outside places (youtube, etc.).

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BSeVtGRdBqu8rbptp7TXGW3THQgRjPX_53Z3Xs_JCuQ/edit?hl=en_US

Ishbel
08-19-2011, 01:39 PM
So I posted in the daily thread but I'm going to here too.

Today is my four month anni for IP and I have to say that the thing that makes me feel the best...is that I can say "I've been without sugar for four months". WOW just typing that (twice today) makes me feel SO great.

Thanks to all of you and your support/encouragement/wisdom/guidance/recipes :)

Carla

showgirlaz
08-19-2011, 01:42 PM
I had an interesting NSV when I came into work today.
A couple of years ago, I had to have a special office chair bought in because the (economical) chairs that they have here were not built for my then 220lb frame, and were giving me all sorts of back and hip issues. So an ergonomic, wider chair was purchased for me. (yes, at the time, I wanted the earth to open up and swallow me whole because I was so embarassed!). Today, lo and behold, the chair was gone and replaced with a new slimline one. I asked my boss about it and she said that the other one was needed elsewhere, and that she was so proud of me that she wanted to reward me with a snazzy new one. I just said OK and thank you (I guess?) and headed back to my office, on the way back I spotted my old wide-load chair in the office of a co-worker. This co-worker has done nothing but criticize my loss, lectured me constantly about how important my pancreas is and has continued to offer me foods that she knows are a big no-no.....all the while stuffing her mouth with anything she could get her hands on! I'm guessing that she is well over 240lbs, so I've always tuned her out. I haven't seen her yet today...but is this ever justice or what??

I can't help thinking that my boss is being a sly ol' fox and doing this on purpose (she has told this co-worker to leave me alone and mind her own business a couple of times) to teach her a lesson.

Just as a side note, this co-worker tried it on with my hubby about a year ago (she actually told him that he could do better then me!)

LMAO... too funny!! I am sure your boss is very proud of your efforts.

made me laugh, it apparently works...
...

Kind of nice still getting wow and your skinny, and every time I see you you are a different size. I still don't see it even though I know I am thinner than anyone in Edmonton has ever seen me except for one person who I grew up with, she remembers me as a skinny little thing... Tried on some size 7 jeans from my closet today... they fit,a little tight but they had no pockets and for work I really need pockets. So I settled for size 8 jeans instead. who would of thought me in size 7 & 8... now onto 6s.:D

Congratulations on the size 7! You'll be in size 6 in no time. :)

patns
08-19-2011, 11:11 PM
I had an interesting NSV when I came into work today.
A couple of years ago, I had to have a special office chair bought in because the (economical) chairs that they have here were not built for my then 220lb frame, and were giving me all sorts of back and hip issues. So an ergonomic, wider chair was purchased for me. (yes, at the time, I wanted the earth to open up and swallow me whole because I was so embarassed!). Today, lo and behold, the chair was gone and replaced with a new slimline one. I asked my boss about it and she said that the other one was needed elsewhere, and that she was so proud of me that she wanted to reward me with a snazzy new one. I just said OK and thank you (I guess?) and headed back to my office, on the way back I spotted my old wide-load chair in the office of a co-worker. This co-worker has done nothing but criticize my loss, lectured me constantly about how important my pancreas is and has continued to offer me foods that she knows are a big no-no.....all the while stuffing her mouth with anything she could get her hands on! I'm guessing that she is well over 240lbs, so I've always tuned her out. I haven't seen her yet today...but is this ever justice or what??

I can't help thinking that my boss is being a sly ol' fox and doing this on purpose (she has told this co-worker to leave me alone and mind her own business a couple of times) to teach her a lesson.

Just as a side note, this co-worker tried it on with my hubby about a year ago (she actually told him that he could do better then me!)


WTG!!! What a nice thing for your boss to do. But I can not imagine working with a co-worker like that! Where does she get off sticking her nose in everyones' business?

Pxlkitty4
08-20-2011, 10:15 AM
So I posted in the daily thread but I'm going to here too.

Today is my four month anni for IP and I have to say that the thing that makes me feel the best...is that I can say "I've been without sugar for four months". WOW just typing that (twice today) makes me feel SO great.

Thanks to all of you and your support/encouragement/wisdom/guidance/recipes :)

Carla

I hear you! Congratulations! I haven't had sugar or bread since February 24th! Pretty amazing when you think about it.

brummie
08-20-2011, 11:47 AM
PXLKITTY: Thanks for the spreadsheet, what a great idea!
A friend of mine has the shake weight...i don't know whether you've seen it, but it is quite bizarre...and...I guess the word is 'inappropriate' looking (snigger!). Anyway, I tried it and you should have seen my arm flab...it was flapping around so much I'm suprised it didn't take my eye out!! I managed to use it for about 1 minute before my arms started burning...I must have dont something wrong, because my upper arms are screaming right now!!

A question for P3'ers....How are you finding breakfast? I'm having a really difficult time getting it all down. I drink plenty of water, but about half way through, my throat gets dry and I don't want to eat anymore. Coach says I can spread out my breakfast and eat it slowly til mid-morning....Honestly, I really don't have time to do that...plus, the protocol sheet says that breakfast should be consumed at one sitting. Here is what I am eating:
2 slices of WW toast - buttered
2 eggs
2 strips bacon
1 cup berries
1 cup greek yogurt

It's really stressing me out...I was NEVER a breakfast eater and have been told all my life that skipping breakfast was one of the reasons I struggled with my weight....so, I want to get this right, for the rest of my life - but right now, just the idea of breakfast makes me want to stay in bed!

Hope everyone has a great weekend!!

JackieGee
08-20-2011, 11:50 AM
PXLKITTY: Thanks for the spreadsheet, what a great idea!
A friend of mine has the shake weight...i don't know whether you've seen it, but it is quite bizarre...and...I guess the word is 'inappropriate' looking (snigger!). Anyway, I tried it and you should have seen my arm flab...it was flapping around so much I'm suprised it didn't take my eye out!! I managed to use it for about 1 minute before my arms started burning...I must have dont something wrong, because my upper arms are screaming right now!!

A question for P3'ers....How are you finding breakfast? I'm having a really difficult time getting it all down. I drink plenty of water, but about half way through, my throat gets dry and I don't want to eat anymore. Coach says I can spread out my breakfast and eat it slowly til mid-morning....Honestly, I really don't have time to do that...plus, the protocol sheet says that breakfast should be consumed at one sitting. Here is what I am eating:
2 slices of WW toast - buttered
2 eggs
2 strips bacon
1 cup berries
1 cup greek yogurt

It's really stressing me out...I was NEVER a breakfast eater and have been told all my life that skipping breakfast was one of the reasons I struggled with my weight....so, I want to get this right, for the rest of my life - but right now, just the idea of breakfast makes me want to stay in bed!

Hope everyone has a great weekend!!

OMG that's a huge breakfast! How come so much food? What are you required to eat? I was always a big breakfast eater but even for me - a person who had an omelet every morning that is big.

brummie
08-20-2011, 12:40 PM
OMG that's a huge breakfast! How come so much food? What are you required to eat? I was always a big breakfast eater but even for me - a person who had an omelet every morning that is big.

i know, right??? This is the breakfast that my coach and i came up with (it's also a sample menu on the p3 protocol sheet).
Hubby made me an omelete this morning, with bacon and mushrooms, I managed one toast with it - then ate about 6 strawberries, dipped in yogurt - that's all I could get down!

Sorry, didn't mean to freak you out...that's why I didn't post it on the daily thread!...continue your focus on phase 1 you are doing a great job! don't let the upcoming phases stress you - my issues aren't typical, you'll do great when you get to phase 3!

Treena
08-20-2011, 04:14 PM
Hi all! Hope you're all having a great weekend so far. I'm excited, had my WI this morning, down another 2 pounds. I talked with my coach about my problems with hairloss and my constant hunger (I've up'd it to 6 proteins a day, still losing, and still starving lol). She said what I hoped she would, that the hunger is my body saying I'm ready to phase off. My fat/lean mass percentages are healthy, and I am so excited that I'll start phase 3 next Sunday. Yayyy!

Congrats to everyone on their NSV's, by the way!!! :carrot:

JackieGee: Phase 3 breakfasts ARE big. They have to be - there are certain things we have to fit in to one meal (breakfast) to restart our pancreas and "train" it to secrete only the right amount of insulin. I'm so excited that I'll be able to have toast, and peanut butter, and yogurt, and fruit.... Who'd've thought that those little things would make me so ecstatic?! :D

disgal
08-20-2011, 04:33 PM
Hi all! Hope you're all having a great weekend so far. I'm excited, had my WI this morning, down another 2 pounds. I talked with my coach about my problems with hairloss and my constant hunger (I've up'd it to 6 proteins a day, still losing, and still starving lol). She said what I hoped she would, that the hunger is my body saying I'm ready to phase off. My fat/lean mass percentages are healthy, and I am so excited that I'll start phase 3 next Sunday. Yayyy!

Congrats to everyone on their NSV's, by the way!!! :carrot:

JackieGee: Phase 3 breakfasts ARE big. They have to be - there are certain things we have to fit in to one meal (breakfast) to restart our pancreas and "train" it to secrete only the right amount of insulin. I'm so excited that I'll be able to have toast, and peanut butter, and yogurt, and fruit.... Who'd've thought that those little things would make me so ecstatic?! :D
Yay!!! :carrot: Congrats!! I started Phase 3 yesterday!! So far I'm loving it!! Best wishes!!

jennydoodle
08-20-2011, 09:13 PM
You girls have me drooling thinking about P3 breakfast! :) It is bigger than I used to eat before IP, but pretty much the same foods. I used to have (1) egg + (2) egg whites scrambled, (2) pc. ezekiel cinnamon raisin toast with little bit of butter. OMG! I can't wait to eat that again. Although it sounds like I will be getting a lot more food. Not sure what I will be able to replace the yogurt with though, since my system does not tolerate dairy. But I guess I will cross that bridge when I come to it. I will actually be able to get a little taste of P3 in mid-September when I do a mini phasing off in preparation for a vacation.

I did not get to get my body fat tested today. The woman at my gym who does it needed to reschedule so I am hoping for either Wed or Thurs evening.

showgirlaz
08-20-2011, 09:58 PM
PXLKITTY: Thanks for the spreadsheet, what a great idea!
A friend of mine has the shake weight...i don't know whether you've seen it, but it is quite bizarre...and...I guess the word is 'inappropriate' looking (snigger!). Anyway, I tried it and you should have seen my arm flab...it was flapping around so much I'm suprised it didn't take my eye out!! I managed to use it for about 1 minute before my arms started burning...I must have dont something wrong, because my upper arms are screaming right now!!

A question for P3'ers....How are you finding breakfast? I'm having a really difficult time getting it all down. I drink plenty of water, but about half way through, my throat gets dry and I don't want to eat anymore. Coach says I can spread out my breakfast and eat it slowly til mid-morning....Honestly, I really don't have time to do that...plus, the protocol sheet says that breakfast should be consumed at one sitting. Here is what I am eating:
2 slices of WW toast - buttered
2 eggs
2 strips bacon
1 cup berries
1 cup greek yogurt

It's really stressing me out...I was NEVER a breakfast eater and have been told all my life that skipping breakfast was one of the reasons I struggled with my weight....so, I want to get this right, for the rest of my life - but right now, just the idea of breakfast makes me want to stay in bed!

Hope everyone has a great weekend!!

Some people would make the yogurt and berries into a smoothie. It might make it easier to get that last bit in or squeeze it in at times that seem less than convenient.

OMG that's a huge breakfast! How come so much food? What are you required to eat? I was always a big breakfast eater but even for me - a person who had an omelet every morning that is big.

The idea of the big breakfast is to create a single insulin spike in the morning and then allow the pancreas to be less active the rest of the day. Doing so should help retrain it to produce better levels of insulin on a regular basis.

Also, you want those carbs earlier in the day where they will be better used and burned off.

patns
08-20-2011, 10:49 PM
Long time until I get to that stage, but if I ate 2 pieces of WW toast I'd be up 5 pounds by the next day. I just can't handle wheat. Keep us posted how it goes Brummie.

Pat

jenlmace
08-21-2011, 02:18 AM
Have I added you to the IP facebook page? Send me a message with your 'real' name if you would like me to add you. And, Congratulations!!!
Mary


Would you mind adding me to the Facebook page as well? I tried to send you a message but it won't let me until I have 10 posts. I've been on IP for 5 months now and reading everyone's comments has been so encouraging! :)

sandyh50
08-21-2011, 10:44 AM
Week 9 is coming up for me and I am feeling pretty "experienced" at this diet. I still am so happy that I do not have the cravings I used to. What is in the IP packets to suppress the appetite, or is it the ketosis?

Tomorrow is our official first day of school for staff with a motivational speaker at the high school auditorium with a coffee and rolls, fruit breakfast, and then an all staff luncheon. I plan on bringing my OWN lunch of salad and pudding cakes and drink lots of water. I am excited to see the responses of people when they realize I have lost almost 30 pounds!

Aunt Sheshie
08-21-2011, 12:18 PM
Welcome back, Carla!.. great to see you here again, we missed you... I hope things at home have gotten more settled & less stressful...

I haven't been around much for a couple of weeks, my trainer at the gym put me on her diet, which I described earlier as IP Phase two-&-a-half... I lost 5 lbs. the first week & that made me pretty happy... the second week, I ended up another lb. down, but not without some extra calorie cutting & lots stress on my part... I could already feel those old carb-cravings popping up every day...

So, this week, she gave me a new food list, which adds more carbs (oatmeal, brown rice).. today is supposed to be the first day of this phase... counting back to when I started her diet, it's been 17 days, & that was what made me realize she's got me on the 17-Day Diet... in case you're not familiar with that, (& I haven't read the book, so I don't know much about it) it has 3 different cycles, each lasting 17 days, plus a maintenance cycle... the idea is that the zig-zag between cycles keeps the metabolism guessing, thus preventing the dreaded plateau...

I still haven't decided this morning to continue with my trainer's diet... I honestly don't believe my body is ready to go back to so many carbs... at the same time, I realize Phase 1 IP protocol is not meant to be a lifelong way of eating, but I came to the conclusion some time back that most likely I will need to eat pretty much very low carb the rest of my life... I just feel better all around when I don't eat carbs... adding a little fruit during the past 17 days has been okay, but from experiences during my IP journey, I know that having more carbs than that only makes me feel awful for a couple of days... plus, I always put back on a few lbs...

So, I'm pretty sure that I'm going back to Phase 1 &/or 2 IP protocol... I'm not sure what I'll tell my trainer, if I tell her anything... she usually just asks "how's the food going?" & I say fine... so far, she hasn't asked for a report on what I'm eating, but if she ever does, what should I do?.. make something up, or tell her the truth?.. when I first started training with her almost 3 weeks ago, I told her I was on a low-carb, low-fat diet, & she thought I wasn't eating enough... she thought I'd have more energy if I added a few more calories... but the thing is, I've had less energy the last two weeks than I had before... carbs do that to me, whether I (or anybody else) like it or not...

Sorry to go on & on!.. I hope everybody is having a great weekend... mine has been okay, I led my monthly night hike last night at our local archaeological/nature center & had a good time... it felt good to get out of the gym for some exercise, even though I'm still loving going to the gym several times a week...

hugs :hug:

Pxlkitty4
08-21-2011, 12:39 PM
So, I'm pretty sure that I'm going back to Phase 1 &/or 2 IP protocol... I'm not sure what I'll tell my trainer, if I tell her anything... she usually just asks "how's the food going?" & I say fine... so far, she hasn't asked for a report on what I'm eating, but if she ever does, what should I do?.. make something up, or tell her the truth?.. when I first started training with her almost 3 weeks ago, I told her I was on a low-carb, low-fat diet, & she thought I wasn't eating enough... she thought I'd have more energy if I added a few more calories... but the thing is, I've had less energy the last two weeks than I had before... carbs do that to me, whether I (or anybody else) like it or not...

Tell her the truth. It's your body and you are going to do whatever you feel good about. Don't tell people what you think they want to hear, as it won't make you feel better and honestly it's not worth lying about.

Most people with health training think that we are not eating enough. I have several friends tell me that I am unhealthy and "starving myself" and will have problems... We are getting enough protein, and honestly if you're in ketosis your body is using fat for energy. That said, if you don't want to be losing fat, then it's a different story.

Check out "fat flush" by Ann Louise Gittleman and look at the maintenance part. It is focused on whole grains, flax, and other high fiber things. I like that or South Beach. They are both really all about low glycemic index carbs, which are the best types of carbs to eat when you need carbs.

Also, you might be sensitive to wheat and sugar and THINK you are sensitive to all carbs. Check out quinoa, beans, legumes, nuts, etc. for natural carbs and experiement with getting most of your carb calories that way.

Aunt Sheshie
08-21-2011, 01:05 PM
Thanks, Pxlkitty4!.. you're right, I don't really want to lie to her... I'll just handle it the best I can if she ever asks... I'm glad you said what you did about most health trainers thinking we don't eat enough... this was my first experience with that & didn't know whether to believe her or not... as for the wheat & sugar, you could be right about that too... I know for sure I'm gluten-sensitive, if not -intolerant, but might be able to eat other carbs... for now, I'm going to go back to IP Phase 1 bootcamp & get myself back into ketosis if I can...

hugs :hug:

patns
08-21-2011, 01:17 PM
You sound much like me, it is likely grain carbs and sugar that get you. The theory is that all whole grain carbs are good carb but for me anything with wheat results in instant gains and lack of energy. Unfortunately just about everything has wheat in it.

Pat

Pxlkitty4
08-21-2011, 01:40 PM
Thanks, Pxlkitty4!.. you're right, I don't really want to lie to her... I'll just handle it the best I can if she ever asks... I'm glad you said what you did about most health trainers thinking we don't eat enough... this was my first experience with that & didn't know whether to believe her or not... as for the wheat & sugar, you could be right about that too... I know for sure I'm gluten-sensitive, if not -intolerant, but might be able to eat other carbs... for now, I'm going to go back to IP Phase 1 bootcamp & get myself back into ketosis if I can...

hugs :hug:

You sound much like me, it is likely grain carbs and sugar that get you. The theory is that all whole grain carbs are good carb but for me anything with wheat results in instant gains and lack of energy. Unfortunately just about everything has wheat in it.

Pat

I've given up wheat a few times, and every time I go back I feel like I'm being poisoned. I don't think it's out-and-out an allergy or anything serious, but I do feel much better when I'm not eating refined carbs. I know that I will need to eat low glycemic, whole grain, when I'm in maintenance. Look for non-flour sprouted grain breads. I never had trouble with those...

By the way, my super physical a few weeks ago found me talking to a new doctor. He lectured me on "finding something that you can live with long-term" and "not gaining weight back"... I really clammed up, and just said "I will deal with that when I'm done losing weight" and changed the subject. He sounded like a strung together group of medical sound clips. It really annoyed me. My diet doctor (coach is his wife) is SO much better at really listening to me and having a real conversation.

Just think... if the medical community really solved the weight issues of the world, they would largely be out of business. So would the diet people. So would all the researchers who look at this stuff for the National Institutes of Health, CDC, etc... Don't get my started on the pharma companies. the sugar lobby, the grocery manufacturers, or the corn people who push HFCS. Call me a cynic, but there are a lot of people who make a lot of money off the confusion and never-ending quest for the answer to weight loss.

If it were simply "eat this, not that" and you will be healthy, maybe only the vegetable people would be rich.

showgirlaz
08-21-2011, 01:51 PM
Welcome back, Carla!.. great to see you here again, we missed you... I hope things at home have gotten more settled & less stressful...

I haven't been around much for a couple of weeks, my trainer at the gym put me on her diet, which I described earlier as IP Phase two-&-a-half... I lost 5 lbs. the first week & that made me pretty happy... the second week, I ended up another lb. down, but not without some extra calorie cutting & lots stress on my part... I could already feel those old carb-cravings popping up every day...
...

I still haven't decided this morning to continue with my trainer's diet... I honestly don't believe my body is ready to go back to so many carbs... at the same time, I realize Phase 1 IP protocol is not meant to be a lifelong way of eating, but I came to the conclusion some time back that most likely I will need to eat pretty much very low carb the rest of my life... I just feel better all around when I don't eat carbs... adding a little fruit during the past 17 days has been okay, but from experiences during my IP journey, I know that having more carbs than that only makes me feel awful for a couple of days... plus, I always put back on a few lbs...

So, I'm pretty sure that I'm going back to Phase 1 &/or 2 IP protocol...... but the thing is, I've had less energy the last two weeks than I had before... carbs do that to me, whether I (or anybody else) like it or not...
...

hugs :hug:

Hello Sheshie! :hug: I wasn't sure if you were just on vacation but, I knew you'd be back.

I'm happy you were able to switch things up and still keep losing. That really is a nice treat.

Trust what your body tells you. If you feel awful or even sluggish when you eat something it probably isn't the something for you.

We don't have to have lots of carbs to function. I do need some. Some of us will always do better on a low carb diet lifestyle. That doesn't mean staying ketogenic though.

I would tell her you gave it a try, you really aren't feeling as well as you were and you want to stay at a lower carb threshold. See if you can create 17 day type cycle (if you like that theory) that goes more like phase 1, then a step up in carbs, and then what you were just doing. You would still be cycling the carbs but keeping them in a range you like. That said, I don't know if cycling carbs is worth it. I will probably just focus on low GI and phase 4 combination when I am done.


Just to add to what Pxlkitty and Patns said, I have specific sensitivities that are in the carb category. I know I do poorly if I have wheat, processed grains, and processed sugars. I don't respond well with too much milk, fruit, or rice. I actually was able to maintain my weight lost until I started adding too much of the first 3 and the milk. When I was just having the whole grains (amaranth, quinoa, spelt, flax, barley, oat, beans, and some occasional fruit. I only went up 7 to 10 pounds (it fluctuated) which is what I had expected. Once I went back to eating on the run, adding "comfort" type foods on a regular basis, and adding to much processed or prepared food items, well, there was no stopping the cravings or the gains.

I would suggest listen to your body and create your diet around what you are doing well with.

jordanna
08-21-2011, 02:57 PM
Hiya 2Ride - just wanted to say thanks again for everything! It was wonderful meeting you and your dogs today, I hope we can have a puppy playdate again sometime :)

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-21-2011, 04:02 PM
Hiya 2Ride - just wanted to say thanks again for everything! It was wonderful meeting you and your dogs today, I hope we can have a puppy playdate again sometime :)Thank you...
You will have to tell me how you like MIO. My girls have been sleeping since we got home. I love your off leash we will for sure have to get together again.:hug:

patns
08-21-2011, 06:12 PM
Just to add to what Pxlkitty and Patns said, I have specific sensitivities that are in the carb category. I know I do poorly if I have wheat, processed grains, and processed sugars. I don't respond well with too much milk, fruit, or rice. I actually was able to maintain my weight lost until I started adding too much of the first 3 and the milk. When I was just having the whole grains (amaranth, quinoa, spelt, flax, barley, oat, beans, and some occasional fruit. I only went up 7 to 10 pounds (it fluctuated) which is what I had expected. Once I went back to eating on the run, adding "comfort" type foods on a regular basis, and adding to much processed or prepared food items, well, there was no stopping the cravings or the gains.

I would suggest listen to your body and create your diet around what you are doing well with.

That is very interesting. Did you find you could handle spelt well? I noticed in phase 4 oatmeal is an option and I am fine with that.

I also have problems with dairy which gives me sinus infections. I am thinking about maintenance already because I am feeling so great now without grains or dairy but will want to add the right ones back with out upsetting the applecart.

Pat