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Gika
07-28-2011, 04:20 PM
I know I keep complaining about my clinic, I apologize for that, but I really feel like I need to vent, and If I vented to my husband/friends, they would just encourage me to stop the program. So

I'll try to be brief, here's my story so far with IP coaches:

Consultation: Physician, the kind who wants to get you out of the office ASAP gave me the briefest description of the program- I had done my
research so, I didn't mind too much. Now that I'm a few weeks into the program I wish she'd mentioned many other things.

1st coach: Only spoke to her on the phone, she wasn't there for the first
meeting. I found out later that she is no longer a coach because she was essentially a bad coach, not keeping any records of anything, not ordering the food on time, etc. etc.

2nd "fill in" coach: Such a sweetheart! She's doing the program, so has some experience, she did mention "the program is hard, so you have to do whatever keeps you on track, like I have a piece of chocolate every day to keep me sane, also I substitute the vegetables with a little bit of brown rice" sigh-

3rd coach: She seemed really uncomfortable and scared, so I asked her if she was on the diet, she said no, then I asked what kind of training is required to become a coach, she pointed at a packet on her desk, and said "well we have to read this" the package seemed like the one that we get when we signed up, then she added "I'm also going to be learning from clients as I go along" . When my "C" problem arose, she said, well it says here to take magnesium citrate, other than that I don't know what to tell you.

Next week I decided to go to the first clinic where there is a physician, she suggested I take the whole bottle of magnesium citrate, and that worked. So I made an appt there for the next week, because I wanted to follow up on my problem, in case it wasn't solved, etc. Well, she didn't show up to the clinic. So I saw someone else there.

4th coach: Again, really sweet person. She's on the program and proceeds to tell me she had a really bad week, she cheated, and the program is proving to be too restrictive for her and she's planning on quitting altogether". Well, thanks for that. I wasn't too hopeful for an answer from her, but still I told her about my period not being here yet, and she just said it was normal, it happens, but couldn't give me an explanation. Also I asked if they sell Novi-Lax and they don't. I called IP and they told me I would need to call the director of the program in this state to find out why they don't sell it.


Ok, so I did call IP to find out if there are other clinics, but there is only ONE other one in my area, and it's the same kind -can't tell for sure if the people will be better, but since it's also an urgent care clinic, I feel like it will be the same.

I looked into ideal to go (I browsed this forum) and it appears that they will only let you switch from a clinic to ideal to go if your current coach agrees to it, and the coach will get or split the comision from the products you purchase. umm, no thanks.

Anyway, so I'm staying put -as it seems I don't have many choices. I can ignore their wrong advice, their negativity and lack of care. ... I just might need to vent once in a while.. not too often, I promise!

Ok, so just typing this up makes me feel a little better.

If you guys have other coach horror stories, feel free to post. It does help to get it out!


redhead14
07-28-2011, 04:41 PM
:hug::hug::hug::hug:
Sorry you have to deal with all the crap when you are committing yourself to being health. Love my coach but he tends to be a little ditzy.
Your numbers are amazing considering the additional stress!:carrot:

petie
07-28-2011, 05:50 PM
Love my coach.


luckygirl3
07-28-2011, 06:49 PM
I'm doing this with alternatives and all I can see is WOW! The place you go to is unprofessional. Have you thought about doing it on your own?

Watkat
07-28-2011, 07:59 PM
I agree with Luckygirl3. Do you think you need a coach? They are not very supportive. It sounds like a nightmare!

Gika
07-28-2011, 08:15 PM
:hug::hug::hug::hug:
Sorry you have to deal with all the crap when you are committing yourself to being health. Love my coach but he tends to be a little ditzy.
Your numbers are amazing considering the additional stress!:carrot:

Thanks so much! I think I'm one of the low losers, but your comment made me realize.. even so I still have lost 18 lbs, and that makes me so happy!

Gika
07-28-2011, 08:21 PM
luckygirl and Watkat - I did think of just doing it on my own, through ideal to go, but I cannot fathom the idea of having my clinic receive a comission, so I'll just take advantage of the fact that they can sell individual products, and I just will ignore the rest.

As far as alternatives, I don't feel ready to go that route yet. I know that people have success with them and I highly commend everyone doing it -it takes serious research and dedication too, but I do like the IP products and for now I think it'd be best for me to stick with them.

Thanks everyone for allowing me this space to vent :) I love this site.

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
07-28-2011, 10:02 PM
Have you reported the clinic? if they have coaches that have no training it sounds like they are only in it for the money. It is sad that a program this good gets a bad rep because of bad training.

My coach wasn't the best but I had lots of guidance here and at work, but at least my coach had been on the program. I start this week with a new coach and don't weigh in for 2 weeks as this monday is a holiday... I hope this coach is a little better informed as when my weight loss slowed down she suggested going without restricted... and the sub coach I had when my coach was on vacation told me I needed to have my restricted as the body needs it. That and she asked to see my diary, I told her I didn't bring it as my other coach never asked me for it... so it will be interesting what happens next.

coliep
07-28-2011, 10:51 PM
I just don't think the "coaches" are very knowledgeable and I don't feel they have much training. I thought that, for my $250 fee, I would be getting blood work, blood pressure monitoring, questioned about how I am feeling, etc. I also expected them to be more knowledgeable about the science behind the diet, and that it would be more tailored to me. When you read the book, it talks about working with your nutritionist or other expert and I thought that was what I would be getting.

Instead, I have had 3 different coaches in my 4 visits. They seem to only know what is on the sheet. I had one who (1) had no idea what napa cabbage or yellow summer squash were and if they were permitted (2) that peanut butter doesn't have enough carbs to knock you out of ketosis if you have 1 TBSP in lieu of a restricted (3) that there is a difference between tamari and standard soy sauce (4) had no idea about the relationship betwen the potassium calcium supplement and thryoid meds, and (5) had no idea if it was ok to do the RC sodas (0/0/0, splenda, no phosphoric acid). I just feel like I get WAY more information on here then they can offer. I am just grateful you all are here!

Maile
07-29-2011, 12:16 PM
Collep
What is the relationship between potassium calcium supplement and thryoid meds? Are you not supposed to take them at the same time?

coliep
07-29-2011, 12:31 PM
I read something about it on this site - I don't recall the specifics but something about neednig to wait 4 hours between the two so I just take it when I take the second round for the day.

Determinedat47
07-29-2011, 12:35 PM
This coach issue blows my mind and I wonder about the coaches out there every day. It is obvious from the questions posted here that there is a huge varience in training/ability. My coach told me on day 1 about the side affects of week 1- dizziness, headache, lightheaded, fatigue. Amd the other potential side effects throughout the diet-feeling cold, potential changes with TOM, the big C, and why these things happen and how to take care of each problem. It seems like some of you poor people are handed the packets and the coach waves goodbye. My coach goes through my food journal line by line every week, weighs me, measures my arms, bust, waist, hips, thighs, calves, calculates my BMI and body fat EVERY week. She also shares recipes and any tip she can think of. AND if I have a question in between, I can call or text her. I am lucky!

Maile
07-29-2011, 01:24 PM
I read something about it on this site - I don't recall the specifics but something about neednig to wait 4 hours between the two so I just take it when I take the second round for the day.
I went to about.com and it recommends that you do separate the thyroid medication from the calcium. Thanks for letting me know this as I was taking them together.

MrsD75
07-29-2011, 01:27 PM
This coach issue blows my mind and I wonder about the coaches out there every day. It is obvious from the questions posted here that there is a huge varience in training/ability. My coach told me on day 1 about the side affects of week 1- dizziness, headache, lightheaded, fatigue. Amd the other potential side effects throughout the diet-feeling cold, potential changes with TOM, the big C, and why these things happen and how to take care of each problem. It seems like some of you poor people are handed the packets and the coach waves goodbye. My coach goes through my food journal line by line every week, weighs me, measures my arms, bust, waist, hips, thighs, calves, calculates my BMI and body fat EVERY week. She also shares recipes and any tip she can think of. AND if I have a question in between, I can call or text her. I am lucky!

Determined, I have a great coach just like you do! My clinic experiences sound very similar to yours, and likewise, my coach is available even when I'm not in his office. I'm starting up my half marathon training again and he's even asked to see my training schedule so he can modify my IP intake accordingly. They even send out a week-specific coaching newsletter to address some common questions, concerns, etc. I know he does remote coaching as well as in-office stuff, too.

So, Gika, can you switch clinics as long as you keep using an IP clinic? Maybe there would be more helpful stuff if you were somewhere else? I don't know what the IP rules are... I understand they want you to use *someone* because that's how the practictioner makes money, but are you free to find a new someone if you aren't happy with the current one?

gettinmygrooveback
07-29-2011, 01:46 PM
I went to about.com and it recommends that you do separate the thyroid medication from the calcium. Thanks for letting me know this as I was taking them together.

Glad you found out. I am so surprised that the doctors/pharmacy don't inform us of this FACT. I found out through research! Calcium can actually reduce the effectiveness of your thyroid medication when both are taken orally. I recently switched to Armour Thyroid and take it sublingually twice per day but continue to separate the two.

loriab
07-29-2011, 01:53 PM
My coach is very supportive but I don't think that she is very well informed. As you guys have stated above, very nice lady but I'm pretty sure she did the diet a few years ago then saw it as a money making opportunity. I'm still new to the plan but I learn MUCH more from you guys than I do from her. She even told me that she wasn't so sure about these boards. (Again, she's only worried about $$$) She says, "you know there are lots of different diets on that site and there are people out there trying to sell you products with no coaching." She knows nothing about the site but is only afraid that I find a way to get the packets without her. I've been dieting all of my life and have tried just about every one out there and am pretty well informed about how the body works. I have no doubt that I know more than her. I sadly come to these boards with questions and ask her the same then I figure out which sounds like the best advice.

pam9210
07-29-2011, 10:14 PM
I takey Synthroid for my thyroid. My personal dr has always said that thyroid medication are "only children". She said you always take it on an empty stomach and by itself. Wait a few hours before taking anything else.

Gika
07-30-2011, 07:53 PM
Pheww I've had a couple of busy days, so sorry I didn't reply before

Something really interesting happened yesterday. I found out the night before that I'm going to be out of town for a week, so even though I had just been to the clinic on Wednesday to get my products I had to go again to get one more week's worth. I called the clinic and tadaaaa the director of the program answers!! Aparently the IP coaches were going to have a meeting or something. He was the nicest person! He told me about his and his wife's experience with the program, and so I seized the opportunity and I asked him all sorts of questions. He said that some of those questions should have been explained to me when I signed up. It was just such a delight ahh. So he said he was going to talk to the other physician etc etc (don't want to drag this convo too long). Anyway, unfortunately when I went to pick up the items he wasn't there anymore, but I already saw a change on my coach. She patiently heard and answered the rest of the questions I had and whaddayaknow they ARE going to order the novi-lax for me (btw the coach didn't even know it existed, I had to write it down for her and she went to look it up)

Of course I don't expect this to be a 100% turn-around, but it's improvement, so I'll take it for now.

2riderollercoast- It sounds like you might be getting a better coach now, I'm happy for you! If I don't see considerable improvement I'll definitively talk to this guy I spoke on the phone with and give him my input/suggestions.

Coliep- I had the same idea about the program and its providers when I signed up :/

Determined- Your coach is my dream coach! Unfortunately there is only one other IP clinic in this part of the state, and it's the same kind of clinic (urgent care, plus it's farther away) so I'm a little hesitant to try them out, but I just might swing by and see how things look over there.

Thanks everyone!

Watkat
07-30-2011, 07:58 PM
So happy things are getting better!