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Skurzy
07-27-2011, 11:36 PM
Has anyone ever had a planned cheat during phase 1?

I know its super bad, but Ive been planning to just stop IP on July 31st, have a "cheat" that day, and then get into phase 3 or 4... I know its not how the book goes, and if I dont do it the right way, then its quite likely I can gain it all back. But im fairly happy with my results, and I feel I could loose those last 5-6 by doing exercise and eating like phase 4.

My other option was just to have ONE cheat day on July 31st, and then back at it on Aug 1st.. untill I loose my remaining 5-6 lbs, which I know I can on this diet!... I know it will slow me down, as last week I had 2 cheat days in a row, and stalled my weight loss for at least 4 days, and my last weigh in weak.

Regardless, Im going to eat "bad" on July 31st, ive been telling myself this since I started on July 3rd.

Just wondering what others would do in this situation...

Cheat Day and then.. phase off because im fairly close... and exercise exercise exercise..
OR
Cheat Day, shake it off and get back on plan untill im at my goal.

Anyone??


coliep
07-27-2011, 11:42 PM
You know, from one cheater to another (meant kindly, of course!), I am leaning towards doing the same thing. Today wasn't a planned cheat day, but I should have done that since I wanted to partake in my son's first birthday. Anyway, that aside, I am going to talk with my coach but think I might stay on for another week, then switch to phase 3 or 4. I, too, think that now that I have shrunk my stomach, stopped drinking wine / snacking late at night, that I can take the weight off myself with a reasonable program.

My one doubt, and I pose this for you to consider, because I do not know . . .will you have the same fat loss with a "regular" diet plan that you would with IP and are you ok if you don't? that is my dilemma. It is not merely pounds I want to lose, but I have fat stores I attribute not just to a few excess pounds but from accumulations from multiple pregnancies that I think i may need the IP/ketogenic diet to get rid of. Would love to know others' thoughts!

Purrfect
07-27-2011, 11:52 PM
Before you decide...have you read the Dr's book, the e book: it explains the science and the theory behind IP. It made a huge difference in my decision making along the journey. It's a quick read, btw.


Skurzy
07-27-2011, 11:54 PM
You know, from one cheater to another (meant kindly, of course!), I am leaning towards doing the same thing. Today wasn't a planned cheat day, but I should have done that since I wanted to partake in my son's first birthday. Anyway, that aside, I am going to talk with my coach but think I might stay on for another week, then switch to phase 3 or 4. I, too, think that now that I have shrunk my stomach, stopped drinking wine / snacking late at night, that I can take the weight off myself with a reasonable program.

My one doubt, and I pose this for you to consider, because I do not know . . .will you have the same fat loss with a "regular" diet plan that you would with IP and are you ok if you don't? that is my dilemma. It is not merely pounds I want to lose, but I have fat stores I attribute not just to a few excess pounds but from accumulations from multiple pregnancies that I think i may need the IP/ketogenic diet to get rid of. Would love to know others' thoughts!


Colliep!

I have my weigh in tomorrow evening.. and im going to talk to my coach about what I should do.. giving her both examples.. This last week I think ive done great, (this is the week after my 2 cheat days)... Ive been OP and only been eating light white fish and skinless chicken. Im going to see how my WI goes tomorrow too, if results are fantastic, then I will consider doing the 1 cheat day, and getting back OP with my chicken and fish strick protein.

I will also be considering just phasing off as well because, I do think, If I can stick with Phase 4, it seems pretty reasonable, considering how I ate before( lots and lots of carbs, fast food, and junk food). I haven't exercised since I started this, and if I commit to excercise, and get it into a daily routine, I really do think I can shed those last 5-6 pounds...

It's just such a toss up though!

Stay OP and cost money..
or
Phase off and commit to exercising RIGHT away..

Skurzy
07-27-2011, 11:55 PM
Before you decide...have you read the Dr's book, the e book: it explains the science and the theory behind IP. It made a huge difference in my decision making along the journey. It's a quick read, btw.

Read it, and it's totally awesome.. its been whats kept me on this program for the month.. but like i said.. the cheat is going to happen.. regaudles.. im trying to figure out which direction I should go after my cheat..

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
07-27-2011, 11:57 PM
Has anyone ever had a planned cheat during phase 1?

I know its super bad, but Ive been planning to just stop IP on July 31st, have a "cheat" that day, and then get into phase 3 or 4... I know its not how the book goes, and if I dont do it the right way, then its quite likely I can gain it all back. But im fairly happy with my results, and I feel I could loose those last 5-6 by doing exercise and eating like phase 4.

My other option was just to have ONE cheat day on July 31st, and then back at it on Aug 1st.. untill I loose my remaining 5-6 lbs, which I know I can on this diet!... I know it will slow me down, as last week I had 2 cheat days in a row, and stalled my weight loss for at least 4 days, and my last weigh in weak.

Regardless, Im going to eat "bad" on July 31st, ive been telling myself this since I started on July 3rd.

Just wondering what others would do in this situation...

Cheat Day and then.. phase off because im fairly close... and exercise exercise exercise..
OR
Cheat Day, shake it off and get back on plan untill im at my goal.

Anyone?? There have been people who have planned cheats and then come back to IP, their only regret was cheating before they were finished. I think if you know you are going to cheat that certain day, then cheat and go back to phase 1 like you would in maintenance or Phase 4.
I have so many opportunities to cheat and just don't want to get fat again so I don't risk it. I like being called skinny and I want to finish with phases 1-3 before I have a cheat day... yes I missed having really good seafood for my birthday lunch but I had a great tilapia and broccoli, yes I didn't have there very very good chocolate layered cake, or their bisquits or their langistino nachos, but I was full and not over full like my friend was... and I got an iced coffee for my dessert and that was great.

Good luck with whatever decision you make.

niknakjack
07-27-2011, 11:58 PM
Has anyone ever had a planned cheat during phase 1?

I know its super bad, but Ive been planning to just stop IP on July 31st, have a "cheat" that day, and then get into phase 3 or 4... I know its not how the book goes, and if I dont do it the right way, then its quite likely I can gain it all back. But im fairly happy with my results, and I feel I could loose those last 5-6 by doing exercise and eating like phase 4.

My other option was just to have ONE cheat day on July 31st, and then back at it on Aug 1st.. untill I loose my remaining 5-6 lbs, which I know I can on this diet!... I know it will slow me down, as last week I had 2 cheat days in a row, and stalled my weight loss for at least 4 days, and my last weigh in weak.

Regardless, Im going to eat "bad" on July 31st, ive been telling myself this since I started on July 3rd.

Just wondering what others would do in this situation...

Cheat Day and then.. phase off because im fairly close... and exercise exercise exercise..
OR
Cheat Day, shake it off and get back on plan untill im at my goal.

Anyone??


I think you should rest your pancreas again after your cheat that your going to do, so that you can start phase 3 properly w/a rested pancreas. The idea is to rest your pancreas then restart it slowly ie. phase three. Its important to phase into 3 properly so that your pancreas will learn to make only the right amount of insulin your body will need to survive, if you give it too much carbs and sugars ie. cheats, your body will not learn to produce less insulin so then it could start to store it again and have the reverse effect your looking for. Or, you could avoid your cheat day your planning and phase into 3 properly asap.
Congrats on getting this far w/your weight loss, best of luck to you in the future!

Ishbel
07-28-2011, 12:01 AM
I planned a cheat...but not an entire day. It was one alive cooler one night and then one vodka with club soda the next. I was OP for the rest of the weekend I was away. It stalled me (only .2 that wk) I don't think it kicked me out of ketosis but my liver definitely had to work on the two drinks instead of doing what my diet was asking it to do. It's the only cheat I planned or even planned to do....I have a long way to go and would rather keep my eye on the prize. It's to expensive....I'm delaying a trip to Europe for this so I need to stay focused.

I wouldn't take a whole day...if you've been OP you may have some nasty physical reactions (cramps etc) if you go overboard.

Just my opinion :)

Skurzy
07-28-2011, 01:53 AM
thanks all!

disgal
07-28-2011, 07:32 AM
Colliep!

I have my weigh in tomorrow evening.. and im going to talk to my coach about what I should do.. giving her both examples.. This last week I think ive done great, (this is the week after my 2 cheat days)... Ive been OP and only been eating light white fish and skinless chicken. Im going to see how my WI goes tomorrow too, if results are fantastic, then I will consider doing the 1 cheat day, and getting back OP with my chicken and fish strick protein.

I will also be considering just phasing off as well because, I do think, If I can stick with Phase 4, it seems pretty reasonable, considering how I ate before( lots and lots of carbs, fast food, and junk food). I haven't exercised since I started this, and if I commit to excercise, and get it into a daily routine, I really do think I can shed those last 5-6 pounds...

It's just such a toss up though!

Stay OP and cost money..
or
Phase off and commit to exercising RIGHT away..

Please let us know what your coach says tonite and what you decide to do!:) Best wishes!!!:hug:

coliep
07-28-2011, 03:49 PM
Well, the coach didn't say too much. She just suggested trying 1 week 100% OP and simultaneously gave me a Phase 3 spreadsheet. Guess it's my call lol! I honestly don't feel the "coaches" where i am know anything more than what is on the worksheet.

What I have decided is to try the 100% OP week and see how it goes. Despite my cheats and small weight loss, my BMI continues to decrease and that was motivating.

I think I can, I think I can, I think I can!

francess
07-28-2011, 04:23 PM
My opinion is: do it! but return at least one day in your Phase 1; your body will reduce the amount of insulin that your pancreas risk to produces; and after this day, turn to phase 3; I changed my Phase 3 (eat 3 times a day) by an "eat 2 times a day"; I took the breakfast as the Phase 3 goes: a protein, a fast carb, a low carb and a fat. For lunch, I took one package of IP with vegetables, an IP for my late afternoon snack and a regular dinner with veggies. I want to put all the chances on my side to don't gain weight and anyways, I don't need to make a "meal to go" to bring it at work... easier for me. If you do this like me, you can also cut your restricted items: only take liquid IP products (soup and drinks) it helps for sure.

Skurzy
07-28-2011, 10:14 PM
So, I just had my weigh in...

And the verdict is.. Down 4.4 lbs, and 4.75 inches! Yay, pretty happy about that. Talked about my cheat.. and i made my decision that I WILL cheat, for one day.. and then go back OP..for another week, just to get my pancreas back to ketosis thinking and such, and then maybe phase off the next week.. So forsure 1 more week OP after my cheat. Im happy with my results so far, and figure, hey.. give it another week, and ill only be closer to my goal.. if my weight loss is minimal after that, then ill probably phase off.. im a student, and the money is always an issue..

anyways, my week went well, it was a strictly fish and chicken protein diet, which i think actually helped a little, but this next week im going to be eating red meat, and try the big mac in a bowl....

anyways, ill keep you all posted on my days after my big bad cheat..

disgal
07-29-2011, 06:47 AM
So, I just had my weigh in...

And the verdict is.. Down 4.4 lbs, and 4.75 inches! Yay, pretty happy about that. Talked about my cheat.. and i made my decision that I WILL cheat, for one day.. and then go back OP..for another week, just to get my pancreas back to ketosis thinking and such, and then maybe phase off the next week.. So forsure 1 more week OP after my cheat. Im happy with my results so far, and figure, hey.. give it another week, and ill only be closer to my goal.. if my weight loss is minimal after that, then ill probably phase off.. im a student, and the money is always an issue..

anyways, my week went well, it was a strictly fish and chicken protein diet, which i think actually helped a little, but this next week im going to be eating red meat, and try the big mac in a bowl....

anyways, ill keep you all posted on my days after my big bad cheat..

WOW that's a great loss!!! :carrot: think I lost that amount my first week back in February and not since!! LOL!!!
I think you have a great plan.....have the cheat, then go right back OP for a week!!
Enjoy the Big Mac Bowl.....we have it once a week....YUM YUM!!!! :D

Pauley
07-29-2011, 11:30 AM
I'm taking a cheat next Friday for my anniversary. We actually have a sitter and are going out to a nice dinner! I won't cheat all day, just the one meal (RED WINE!!!) and then I plan to be back OP with no restricted. I know it will set me back, but I'm going to do it anyway!

I think I'll tell my coach afterwards. You know, ask for forgiveness after the fact instead of permission in advance.

Bellamack
07-29-2011, 11:39 AM
I truly dislike Cheaters!

Bretley
07-30-2011, 01:00 AM
When (if?) you cheat it is important to go back to phase one to reset your pancreas again rather than jumping to a later phase.

Skurzy
08-01-2011, 10:25 PM
I truly dislike Cheaters!

Is that ALL you have to say?... Im sorry you decided to post that. We "cheaters" frankly don't care of your opinion. But thanks for the dislike. Cheers.

jennylauren19
08-02-2011, 02:45 PM
Hi Skurzy! Our height and weight loss goals are almost identical! How did the cheat day go? I haven't cheated yet, but would definitely do it for a very special occasion if necessary. Starting in the summer is very difficult, and if having 1 cheat day will help you get through, then I say go for it. But, I would definitely stay OP for a week afterwards. My only concern with a cheat day is that I'll have high cravings for my cheat food and will have a hard time getting back OP. Has it been okay for you getting back on track?

Skurzy
08-03-2011, 01:21 AM
Hi Skurzy! Our height and weight loss goals are almost identical! How did the cheat day go? I haven't cheated yet, but would definitely do it for a very special occasion if necessary. Starting in the summer is very difficult, and if having 1 cheat day will help you get through, then I say go for it. But, I would definitely stay OP for a week afterwards. My only concern with a cheat day is that I'll have high cravings for my cheat food and will have a hard time getting back OP. Has it been okay for you getting back on track?

Hi Jenny Lauren!

Im excited that we are pretty much the same. I started on July 3rd, and so far hhave lost 13 lbs, which I dont think is too bad for not working out! I cheated my first time on July 19th and 20th. It was an all out cheat, and that week I gained .2(WI was one day after my cheat), but the following week I was OP and only ate chicken and fish, and I lost 4.4 lbs. So really I dont think my cheat slowed me down that much at all.

BUT for this cheat, it actually turned into a Cheat Weekend. Truthfully, i felt pretty good, almost too good about my weight loss up till that point,and I felt i deserved it, since I was almost at my goal. I figured, I can just work out for the rest of the weight. Well its Tuesday, and was OP for half the day yesterday, then caved in for a Club Sandwich and left over birthday cake.. So ysterday was shot as well. Today ive been OP 100%... and plan to give it another week and give it a hard 9 days OP starting today. So I had a 4 day cheat. I think it's OK (for me... im not encouraging it.. but I dont regret what I did.. just made the choice and accepting it). Maybe I wont loose anything this week, but thats ok, because i ate like a starving piggy. I guess we will see what happens next weigh in. Which will be next week (two weeks after cheat).. as see how bad my cheat really effected me... and then I think ill phase off.. and maybe start back up during the school semester... WHO KNOWS though.. i keep changing my mind everyday.

Anyways, lets keep each other posted on our weight loss journey!.. tell me about your success so far!

Momto2cs
08-03-2011, 05:41 PM
The hard part of cheating is stopping it! Once you get out of ketosis then you are hungry again!

I had phased off, but was on vacation the past 2 weeks. After eating everything and anything I am up 5 pounds and feel very bloated!

I am back on phase 1 until those 5 pounds go away and I am back at my goal weight.

I continued my exercise routine the whole time. Although I think exercise is great, I don't think it helps very much with weight loss...

Bobbi2011
09-08-2011, 11:25 PM
At the end of Aug., my hub and I took our girls for a weekend of shopping- I went off IP for two days and ate what i wanted. Upon returning, I went right back into the phase 1 protocol. I weighed in today and lost 8.8 lbs.-the highest loss to date for me and i have been on IP since june!!

Lilivonshtupp
09-08-2011, 11:42 PM
The hard part of cheating is stopping it! Once you get out of ketosis then you are hungry again!

I had phased off, but was on vacation the past 2 weeks. After eating everything and anything I am up 5 pounds and feel very bloated!

I am back on phase 1 until those 5 pounds go away and I am back at my goal weight.

I continued my exercise routine the whole time. Although I think exercise is great, I don't think it helps very much with weight loss...

As soon as you cheat once, it just makes it that much easier to do it again, maybe for longer the second time, and then if you "get away" with it on the scale, it makes it even easier, and so on...it's a vicious cycle. And let's face it, there's a reason we're all here doing this program...if we knew everything and had it all figured out, we wouldn't need IP, and in the end, you're only cheating yourself.

Special occasions like weddings or Christmas or vacations...those may warrant cheating, and then getting back on Phase 1 the very next day. But to just plan a cheat, or multiple cheats, you're sabotaging yourself, and for IP to really work the way it's supposed to, you need to do all of the phases in order for the amount of time recommended, so why not just wait until you get to Phase 4/Maintenance when you DO get one "cheat" day a week to eat whatever you want, however much of it you want?

I know it's hard since temptation is everywhere, and I'm not trying to make you feel guilty, just sayin'. Maybe starting an "I feel like I wanna cheat and I need someone to stop me!" thread would work?

baldchocnsexy
09-09-2011, 01:14 AM
I have not had any "planned" cheat days so far, but worth considering...at some point.