Ideal Protein Diet - Peanut Butter ?!?!?!?!




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coliep
07-19-2011, 03:49 PM
I am struggling with NOT eating 1-2 TBSP a peanut butter (or almond butter) the last few days. I did great on IP my first week, no intentional cheats. This week is another story. I have somehow made this "cheat" ok since my mind remembers doing Atkins years ago, on which natural PB was ok 1x a day (1 TBSP I think). Now, I KNOW this is a different diet but they are both ketogenic and my body is craving the peanutty goodness and so I have rationalized this cheat.

Can anyone talk be through this? Tell me WHY it is a bad idea and if it cannot work in conjunction with IP? The carbs are low, 1 TBSP is similar to a restricted packet in fats / cals etc.... SO I am struggling to convince myself to stop in the face of cravings + exhaustion. Anyone else suffering with the same issue? I do wish I had never given in . . . three times now.

I lost my willpower along the way =(


Thefireresides
07-19-2011, 03:59 PM
My sheet from IP states NO NUTS

A 2 TBSP serving has 190 calories and 16 grams of fat per serving, it’s easy to overdo it.

There are Peanut Butter Puffs and Bars ( I haven't tried either)

You could be craving what you are lacking fat and protein. Are you taking your oil as well as an Omega supplement?

sas
07-19-2011, 04:04 PM
I am struggling with NOT eating 1-2 TBSP a peanut butter (or almond butter) the last few days. I did great on IP my first week, no intentional cheats. This week is another story. I have somehow made this "cheat" ok since my mind remembers doing Atkins years ago, on which natural PB was ok 1x a day (1 TBSP I think). Now, I KNOW this is a different diet but they are both ketogenic and my body is craving the peanutty goodness and so I have rationalized this cheat.

Can anyone talk be through this? Tell me WHY it is a bad idea and if it cannot work in conjunction with IP? The carbs are low, 1 TBSP is similar to a restricted packet in fats / cals etc.... SO I am struggling to convince myself to stop in the face of cravings + exhaustion. Anyone else suffering with the same issue? I do wish I had never given in . . . three times now.

I lost my willpower along the way =(

My experience is once you start cheating then everything that is a little cheat is ok. and it adds up. the diet takes longer or doesn't work. there are so many restricted peanut type bars. I would try that. One a night hasn't stopped my lose.


coliep
07-19-2011, 04:05 PM
I am going to ask about the supplements at my Thursday consult. I do think that is it . . . that I am missing some necessary fats etc. Once I give in, I am satisfied for quite a while (vs. eating my IP meal and still wanting more). I hope my coach is more knowledgeable than I anticipate . . .

gettinmygrooveback
07-19-2011, 04:06 PM
I am a PB freak! Check out the Vanilla Peanut Bars. They are my favorite and I feel like I am really treating myself!

coliep
07-19-2011, 04:10 PM
Thanks! I think my goal of no restricted foods is going to go by the wayside at this rate. That resolve from week 1 might not be my best attack plan :/

Thefireresides
07-19-2011, 04:14 PM
I found Sugar Free Peanut Butter Syrup at my second cup... Going to try and mix it with a chocolate shake... will let you know the outcome :)

coliep
07-19-2011, 04:17 PM
OMG. That would be H.E.A.V.E.N.!!!

cherbee82
07-19-2011, 04:45 PM
Sounds like there are other ways to get your craving that will be OP. If you don't stop this (even though rationally it's hard to see why it would add up or change the "effect" IP diet should have) you'll always wonder if that slowed down your progress. Take the wonder out of it and find ways to get the craving on OP - at least until your closer to your goal weight. Looks like you've got some good PB options - and I'm already missing natural pb mixed with oats and protein powder - I know that that's fine for me - but if I'm going to invest in a packaged deal - I'm going to do my best to use their formula even though when this is done I will go back to my healthy non-IP treats. :) You'll get back to your pb -- I promise!

coliep
07-19-2011, 04:53 PM
So True, that is exactly it . . . I wonder and wonder but will never know its effects. I just need to lay down the law (and buy restricted foods . . . once I am allowed).

I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.

No. More. Peanut Butter.
No. More. Extra. Whey. Protein.

I started reading the good Dr's book today, too, so hopefully it'll give me the kick I really need =)

And, I will skip the workout and maybe just go for a walk (if that, its HOT here).

Jasesgirl
07-19-2011, 04:55 PM
Eww..speaking from a barista coffee maker experience of my own...the penut butter syrup has got bad reviews! but i guess are taste all varies hey?
When can i have restricteds? Im confused cause i see " 3 weeksfrom now" and then i hear "starting right away" ..so which is it? I hope i can! I would love to try a chocolatey caramal penut bar or something.

The only thing i know about penut butter..is that its high in calories..In fact..doctors and other health gurus say that a lot of people gain weight from indulging on penuts and nuts on diets an thats why they gain weight? Even diets like south beach have a restriction on the number of nuts..

Princess Jessica
07-19-2011, 05:38 PM
When can i have restricteds? Im confused cause i see " 3 weeksfrom now" and then i hear "starting right away" ..so which is it? I hope i can! I would love to try a chocolatey caramal penut bar or something.


I am not sure about this one. I have seen people going both ways. My coach said to have one restricted a day from the very beginning (she actually freaked out a little when I mentioned wanting to try "bootcamp" with no restricteds for a week... she is a stickler for the program rules). I think it varies by coach and depending on how sensitive your body is to carbs. I forget if you have said... but are you doing it with a coach or alternative? If with a coach I would say just stick with what they tell you. If alternative... I am not sure what to tell you. Do you know if you are carb-sensitive?

coliep
07-19-2011, 05:41 PM
Mine said no restricted for the first 2 weeks . . . but then again, she doesn't seem to know very much :/

Jasesgirl
07-19-2011, 05:42 PM
Im definitly carb sensetive....i dont really have a "coach" per say.. i mean.. i guess they are??? They are online..through internet and emails..Because we dont have a clinic near by..so i found one online one through the IP website..it directed me to an online place that ships IP food and they email you and keep in touch with you throughout your journey.. So i guess i could ask her?

Its probably better i just stay away from carb heavy stuff..i just have to look at a carb and gain weight! Lol!

Princess Jessica
07-19-2011, 05:45 PM
Im definitly carb sensetive....i dont really have a "coach" per say.. i mean.. i guess they are??? They are online..through internet and emails..Because we dont have a clinic near by..so i found one online one through the IP website..it directed me to an online place that ships IP food and they email you and keep in touch with you throughout your journey.. So i guess i could ask her?

Its probably better i just stay away from carb heavy stuff..i just have to look at a carb and gain weight! Lol!

Yeah maybe stay away from the restricted for a while then, until your body is really truly well into ketosis and it is harder for a few extra carbs to kick it out. I am lucky and not very carb sensitive, so maybe that is why it never hurt my loss.
I think emailing them is worth a shot. I am sure they are as well informed as the coaches in the clinics (or some of them at least).

cherbee82
07-19-2011, 05:48 PM
I'm doing an e-mail thing with a friend's mom who sells/coaches. She recommended restricted right away. I'm on board for that because it's still carb restrictive and hopefully reintroducing carbs later won't be too much of a shock - at least that's my hope.

jennydoodle
07-19-2011, 05:51 PM
Try the PB soy balls, or whatever they are called. They are incredible! Also the vanilla PB bar is excellent. Throw away your jar of PB so you won't dip in anymore!!!

coliep
07-19-2011, 06:02 PM
Here is what I just found out by reading the book:

"Eating the slightest amount of fast or slow sugars...may stall weight loss for 2 to 3 days." And, "there is no correlation between the seriousness of the slip and the weight loss process."

And that backsliding may cause fatigue.

Yep, and here we are. . . . tired and stalled :/

ETA: ANd I took that to mean I already messed up, why not mess up some more. I blew today totally. I will have to start anew tomorrow. I pray I got this out of my system today for good. It IS a slippery slope.

cajunladybug22
07-19-2011, 06:07 PM
I am a PB freak! Check out the Vanilla Peanut Bars. They are my favorite and I feel like I am really treating myself!

Exactly this!!!

PacSunMama
07-19-2011, 06:20 PM
I'm not an "IPer" but just curious, would cashew butter work? It's significantly less calories and carbs! And it tastes amazing too.

colley
07-19-2011, 06:25 PM
Try getting a jar of Walden Farms Peanut Butter, have your tablespoon and its 0/0/0

Thefireresides
07-19-2011, 06:26 PM
I'm not an "IPer" but just curious, would cashew butter work? It's significantly less calories and carbs! And it tastes amazing too.

In Phase One it does say no nuts.

2 TBSP of Cashew Butter is 188 calories, almost 9 grams of carbs and 16 grams of fat... so not that much better

M0vingon
07-19-2011, 06:39 PM
Can anyone talk be through this? Tell me WHY it is a bad idea and if it cannot work in conjunction with IP? The carbs are low, 1 TBSP is similar to a restricted packet in fats / cals etc.... SO I am struggling to convince myself to stop in the face of cravings + exhaustion. Anyone else suffering with the same issue? I do wish I had never given in . . . three times now.

I lost my willpower along the way =(

I know you've resolved this, but I just wanted to say that it's pretty key that you let go of the Atkins way and commit to just IP. It's not just about carbs, it's about fat and calories too. Atkins is different. If you proceed with the "It was ok on Atkins" mindset, it will trip you up.

If passing on restricted packets is bringing you to cheating, your coach would do well to let you buy a box of puffs or bars. Communicate that to him/her clearly at your next appointment. Have you tried soy nuts? They're restricted, but allowed and a darn good replacement for peanuts.

Good luck!;)

sunshine1986
07-20-2011, 03:32 AM
Coliep.... come on you are doing so well at this!:carrot::carrot: Try the PB bar or the soy puffs. I tried both over the last two weeks and they are awesome! For the taste and to take away the craving for sweet, crunch... or the desire for the PB flavor!

Not worth it to dip into the jar.... I have PB in my house, but I have never been a PB person, so its not tempting... if its too tempting for you, get it out of your house!

You can do this! Find an alternative that is IP allowed....

Thefireresides
07-20-2011, 02:01 PM
So I mixed some Torani sugar free syrup with a chocolate pudding, adding extra water for a shake.
Not bad... not fantastic... then I melted 2 tsp of WF pnut butter and added it to the mix... Improvement... I have been off pnut butter and almond butter for so long... that this hit of pnut butter quenched my craving :)

It wasn't the real thing... but it will have to do until I reach my goal :)

Watkat
07-20-2011, 10:10 PM
The Torani sugar free peanut butter syrup is not good???

niknakjack
07-20-2011, 10:26 PM
I am struggling with NOT eating 1-2 TBSP a peanut butter (or almond butter) the last few days. I did great on IP my first week, no intentional cheats. This week is another story. I have somehow made this "cheat" ok since my mind remembers doing Atkins years ago, on which natural PB was ok 1x a day (1 TBSP I think). Now, I KNOW this is a different diet but they are both ketogenic and my body is craving the peanutty goodness and so I have rationalized this cheat.

Can anyone talk be through this? Tell me WHY it is a bad idea and if it cannot work in conjunction with IP? The carbs are low, 1 TBSP is similar to a restricted packet in fats / cals etc.... SO I am struggling to convince myself to stop in the face of cravings + exhaustion. Anyone else suffering with the same issue? I do wish I had never given in . . . three times now.

I lost my willpower along the way =(

Peanut butter has a lot of calories and fat too. Save it for phase 3&4 even then keep it to a minimum because of the fat and calories. Like the others this is NOT Atkins Ip is scientifically proven to work if you follow the protocol. You can do it, we all get cravings try a piece of sugar free gum or some dill pickles or veggies to fill you up. Or maybe go for a walk, try something to keep your mind off of it.

I defiantly recommend the Vanilla Peanut Bar and the Peanut Butter Soy Puffs and the new Peanut Butter Bar they are all really really good.

I had restricteds from day one and still lost weight. I did the diet 2 years ago and that was the way to do it, then about a year later that changed to no resrticted in the first couple of weeks and again with there research it has changed again you can have restricted from the first day of the diet, and still have great results.

ItsAboutTime
07-20-2011, 10:40 PM
Peanut butter has a lot of calories and fat too. Save it for phase 3&4 even then keep it to a minimum because of the fat and calories. Like the others this is NOT Atkins Ip is scientifically proven to work if you follow the protocol. You can do it, we all get cravings try a piece of sugar free gum or some dill pickles or veggies to fill you up. Or maybe go for a walk, try something to keep your mind off of it.

I defiantly recommend the Vanilla Peanut Bar and the Peanut Butter Soy Puffs and the new Peanut Butter Bar they are all really really good.

I had restricteds from day one and still lost weight. I did the diet 2 years ago and that was the way to do it, then about a year later that changed to no resrticted in the first couple of weeks and again with there research it has changed again you can have restricted from the first day of the diet, and still have great results.

I didn't think we were suppose to have gum. I was told no because of the carbs and the sugar alcohols. (I asked when I got bad breath from ketosis.)

coliep
07-20-2011, 11:33 PM
Thanks everyone! I plan to talk with my coach and think I will give in and get a box of the PB bars (I am leaning towards the new PB one). I have been fully back on track today and feeling good about it.

I have 3 kids 3 and under so getting rid of nut butters (we have almond and peanut) is just really not an option. I did mistakenly buy organic PB that contains added sugar (like old school regular PB) and I don't like this kind as much . . . I prefer the natural. So, I will feed them that (bad mom, I know) and hopefully not be as tempted! The fact that I put on some shorts I haven't worn in a while was motivating!

I also started fish oil supplements today. Hopefully its ok - they are just my own. I am starting with a smaller than recommended dose to hopefully avoid the stomach aches they brought before! I also am increasing my olive oil to make sure I get the full 1 tsp since I think the lack of fat in my diet was taking its toll as well.

It is interesting about the craving. I haven't had it again and when I was putting a bunch of food away today I had to move around the pita chips, gummy bears, clif bars, dried fruit, peanut butter, almond butter, kid snacks etc. and I really wasn't feeling very tempted. I even made a giant fruit salad for a playdate tomorrow and didn't feel like I might cave. All good signs =)

I have been told no gum also - I was told the mini sugar free altoids. I find peppermind the most effective!

Thanks for the feedback everyone!

Purrfect
07-20-2011, 11:50 PM
So True, that is exactly it . . . I wonder and wonder but will never know its effects. I just need to lay down the law (and buy restricted foods . . . once I am allowed).

I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.

No. More. Peanut Butter.
No. More. Extra. Whey. Protein.

I started reading the good Dr's book today, too, so hopefully it'll give me the kick I really need =)

And, I will skip the workout and maybe just go for a walk (if that, its HOT here).

Ah, Peanut Butter is my binge food, my real trigger food. I have often been known to consume a half jar plus in one sitting (often at 3am) with untold amounts of crackers and jam.
Leaving behind the addiction requires effort, but also taking away the Forbidden foods...you can have PB, in other forms, and in moderation when you want after you are in phase four.

Reading the Dr's book will help alot.

When I did atkins, years ago, I used ketostix to montior my progress with all sorts of foods. I found I could eat any amount of roasted, salted nuts and even drink red wine...and stay in the dark purple keytone spot. It probably is very individual regarding sensitivity. With IP, keeping fat intake LOW is vital to the plan so keep reminding yourself that it is only temporary.