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PacSunMama
06-25-2011, 01:20 AM
I have been insanely craving a good slice of fudgy chocolate cake this whole week. It's driving me bonkers- seriously, I'm trying to replace this craving with other things- 3tbsp chocolate chips, or a packet of hot cocoa powder... not even coming close to satisfying a morsel of this craving.

I'm certain the slice of cake I want is probably about 1,000 calories per slice, and that's lowballing the figure. I want it, and I want it badly...

On the way home tonight I said "screw it, we're stopping by the store, they sell cake slices and I'm getting one." It took reasoning with myself, saying "I deserve this, it's been a long week, this is fine, I'm sure I'll walk around enough" until we got to the parking lot and I told my husband, "NO. I worked too hard this week to throw it away on some cheap piece of flavorless grocery store cake, let's just drive home."

So we did. Big NSV there- telling myself no! But... I am still physically craving that fudgy sweetness. I don't know what to do. Is there anything that could replace this? I can't think of anything (and believe me, baking is my hobby, I KNOW my desserts!) that would replace this and satisfy my craving.

eta: Ah here it is, nutrition value for the WHOLE cake, which is HUGE:

Costco American Chocolate Cake (note: this means we'd have to buy the whole thing, but I'm comparing it to a slice of cake I could get at a local restaurant that has something very similar. I think they cut their cakes into 8ths, maybe 10ths, and they're just as big as this one.)

Cals for whole cake- 12,544
fat: 560g
carbs: 1904g
protein: 112g
sodium: 12,096


See my dilemma? Even they cut it into 10ths and I split it with my hubby, that's still a 600-calorie slice of cake!! A third of my daily budget!! AGH! What do I do? I don't get cravings often, and I don't deal with them well. This is so hard to self-control!


darius
06-25-2011, 01:29 AM
I know what you mean, when you are craving a certain taste combined with a certain texture, it is hard to duplicate that by simply taking a hit off the bottle of chocolate syrup hidden in the back of the refrigerator.

PacSunMama
06-25-2011, 01:32 AM
I know what you mean, when you are craving a certain taste combined with a certain texture, it is hard to duplicate that by simply taking a hit off the bottle of chocolate syrup hidden in the back of the refrigerator.

Yes! (And I tried that too... to no avail.) I'm wasting a lot of calories substituting for other things that aren't satisfying this.

I mean, is it worth it to just go waste a third of my calories (or more) on a slice of cake? Am I just going to want more? It's such a struggle between trying to guess what my body really wants (come on, I don't think chocolate is a macronutrient I'm depriving my body of. Well I do think it, but logically know it's not) or am I just being tormented by old habits? Or is it okay to indulge and trust my body? Or not...? This shouldn't be an issue! I should be satisfied by sugar free chocolate pudding or those horrific black bean brownies I made... but I'm not.


chickadee32
06-25-2011, 01:45 AM
These aren't exact substitutes (at all), but they might be worth a try: Vitalicious muffin top in chocolate, or a batch of No Pudge brownies. You'll get more nutrition-wise out of the Vitalicious (very high in fiber) for your 100 calories and they're cakey with a few chocolate chips in them, but they aren't fudgey. The brownies will be very fudgey and a little higher in calories (make them with fat-free yogurt), but won't be cakey. It sounds kind of odd, lol, but what about trying them together? The muffin top topped with a thinly spread brownie (the No Pudge ones are so sticky, they could definitely substitute as a kind of rich, thick gooey frosting). Less than half the calories of a slice of that cake, so it might be worth a shot.

But, if you're really, really craving THAT cake, I say just go for it. Plan your daily calories around it, and allow yourself one slice to satisfy that craving. I think it's perfectly normal to not be satisfied by sugar-free pudding or black bean brownies when you're really craving something you enjoy, and it's not abnormal to want to treat yourself once in a while to something you really love. As long as those treats are occasional and you can keep your intake of the treat moderate, it's not going to do any harm. :)

lagorditadecolorado
06-25-2011, 01:47 AM
What about a healthy version of brownies instead?

PacSunMama
06-25-2011, 02:05 AM
What about a healthy version of brownies instead?

Do you have a good recipe? The ones I've tried are terrible!

darius
06-25-2011, 02:23 AM
What about a healthy version of brownies instead?

logordita; that's exactly what I was going to write! I don't have any recipes, but I was thinking, maybe there is some kind of diet brownie that somebody makes, somewhere. But it would probably be just as easy to make your own.

gagalu
06-25-2011, 02:46 AM
what about a chocolate cupcake instead? they're smaller and less calorie dense!

darius
06-25-2011, 05:15 AM
Oh great thanks a lot, now the only thing I can think of is chocolate cake.

bargoo
06-25-2011, 08:33 AM
I never allow a full cake or pie in my house. I know I can't resist. I will, however, have one slice at a restaurant or if a guest at someones home for dinner. That way there are no seconds and the craving is satisfied ( well, sort of ). You did good by resisting !

indiblue
06-25-2011, 09:13 AM
Make your own. Homemade cakes are often WAY lower in calories than storebought ones. I just searched for chocolate cake on All Recipes and found this one that looks delicious, and is only 332 calories per serving: http://allrecipes.com/recipe/best-moist-chocolate-cake/detail.aspx

Another thought is do some tweaking to a more "unvirtuous" cake. Substitute mashed bananas for oil (or at least half of the oil), whole wheat flour for regular flour. Usually you can also cut the butter in half (if it calls for butter)- cakes rarely need that much butter. Cut the sugar by 25%, or 50% and add sugar substitute.

Sunshine87
06-25-2011, 09:45 AM
Sometimes just eating a little bit (half of a slice or 1 slice) of the craved food helps me if I can fit it into my calorie limit. I don't know if you have wiggle room in your eating plan but sometimes I eat way more calories trying to completely avoid the food rather than making a place for it either that day or the next.

April Snow
06-25-2011, 10:11 AM
Sometimes just eating a little bit (half of a slice or 1 slice) of the craved food helps me if I can fit it into my calorie limit. I don't know if you have wiggle room in your eating plan but sometimes I eat way more calories trying to completely avoid the food rather than making a place for it either that day or the next.

yep, totally agree. Trying to "eat around" a craving just adds calories without satisfying the craving.

savor a very small portion (not even a 1/2 slice if it's that rich/high calorie) - a few bites should be very satisfying when something is that rich. Then TOSS the rest down the disposal or in the trash with dish soap on it.

Redgrl
06-25-2011, 10:19 AM
Deep Chocolate Vitatop. Open the end of the packet and put in microwave, 30 seconds, and let set in the packet for another 20 seconds or so. It comes out like a super moist, very chocolaty, warm cake. 100 calories plus lots of vitamins and fiber.

Lori Bell
06-25-2011, 10:20 AM
What I do is plan a day to have it. Okay, so when I was losing my butt ugly weight there where times when I wanted sugary stuff really really badly. Fake subs only kept the cravings going. Kind of like drinking light beer instead of a Baileys Irish cream over ice. Drink enough light beers and you will eventually break down and have a 500 calorie Bailey's, (or consume that many calories in light beer to try to ease it.) You still end up consuming a boat load of empty calories.

So, anyway, when I wanted sweets I would bargain with myself. "Okay". I'd tell myself, "on the 4th of July (or some special day) I'll plan to have cake. I will save a few calories every day, and by that day I'll eat the biggest slice I want with no guilt."

What usually ended up happening is, in the time frame I gave myself, I'd have a big whoosh in weight loss, I was more driven than ever, and by the time of the planned event came, I no longer wanted it. In my humble opinion a Friday afternoon is just not a special enough reason to splurge, but a National holiday is...lol :)

ddc
06-25-2011, 10:46 AM
Can you go to a restaurant and split a chocolate dessert with your hubby?

Here's a chocolate dessert, not a cake, technically a crustless pie, but it's one of my favorite chocolate desserts:
1 stick of butter
2 and 1/2 squares unsweetened chocolate
2 eggs
1 cup sugar
1/4 cup all purpose flour

Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Grease a 9 inch pie pan. Melt the butter with the chocolate (I use the microwave or you can use a double boiler). Let cool slightly. Beat the eggs with the sugar and flour, and mix into the chocolate. Pour into the pie pan and bake for 30 min.

I calculated the calories myself and came out with:
total for the whole pie - 2084
cut into eigth servings - 261
cut into six servings - 347

Now, if you really don't want to give in, here's something that I learned from Paul McKenna (author of I can make you thin).
Get a mental picture of the cake in your head and think of how yummy it looks, how it would taste, etc. Now, imagine the grossest thing you can think of (bugs, worms, spit, poop, etc) on top of the cake. Might help you to get the craving out of your head-?? Good luck :)

onic28
06-25-2011, 11:06 AM
At the risk of receiving a little bit of negative feedback....

Just eat some cake!

But here's why I say that.. first, let me ask you this...can you say, for certain, that you will never again eat a piece of that cake (or something equally unhealthy) in your life? I doubt you can honestly say yes to that.

When we diet, we should be making life-altering choices that will stick with us forever. Sure, we're trying to meet goals here and do it the right way, but we're also trying to make healthy habits that are actually do-able. For me, there's a mexican restaurant close to my house that I LOVE. There's one dish that I love a whole lot. And about once a month, that's where I have dinner and I eat my dish (but not all of it) and I go home. And I'm happy lol I work out extra the next day and I don't use that as an excuse to "indulge" for a week.

Maybe you should eat a few bites, and then switch to a low-calorie desert to finish it off, or just stop after a few bites.

The point is that you should not punish yourself. Dieting is not supposed to be awful. This is different than an impulse at a restaurant... you've thought about it all week! Reward yourself and thank yourself, but then work hard to make sure it doesn't hurt you.

sheramama
06-25-2011, 12:02 PM
Try one of those Betty Crocker Desserts--I can't remember what they're called but the ones that are in a single cup and add water and microwave. They have 100 cal ones.

I made a no sugar added cake with sugar free icing before...it's a mix. I added fiber powder too.

I have been lovin Nutella on Goya Maria Cookies. I use 3 cookies and 1 tsp total of Nutella...yum and only 2 ww pts.

mypinkpolkadot
06-25-2011, 01:22 PM
Why not make a chocolate cake, that way you know exactly what you're putting into it. & and do your best to make it as healthy as possible!

Or, just pick a day, and eat, and ENJOY IT. Then that's it!

I would personally get an individual slice, from a restaurant or store, and split it with someone, that way you cant have more!

dj mayhem
06-25-2011, 01:28 PM
look up hungrygirls recipe for her mississippi mug pie. its like a gooey chocolate lava cake!

abbysue715
06-25-2011, 02:07 PM
http://www.hungry-girl.com/newsletters/raw/1447

There is the link to what the pp suggested. It sounds delicious! If you try that recipe let us all know how it turns out!!

lin43
06-25-2011, 05:02 PM
Buy the cake and split it with your boyfriend. If he's not around when you get it, immediately throw half of it away and enjoy the rest. You can also eat that half as your "breakfast" and you probably won't even go above your calorie count for the day.

If the craving is that bad, I doubt that anything other than the real thing will satisfy you. Also, I respectfully disagree with suggestions to make a cake at home. Then, you'll have to resist the WHOLE cake rather than just buying and eating that one slice.

retrogirl
06-25-2011, 09:29 PM
The girls at work have made these flourless brownies, and they use beans in them. Honestly they are the most rich-tasting brownies ever. I was amazed!

15 oz Beans, Black
3 eggs
1/3 cup Butter or Subsitute
1/4 cup Dutch Cocoa Powder
1/2 cup Cane Sugar
2 tsp Vanilla Extract
1/8 tsp Salt
1/2 cup Toll House Semi-sweet Chocolate Chips

120 cals/serving
Total Fat 6.73g
Saturated Fat 3.13g
Cholesterol 40.31mg
Sodium 97.18mg
Total Carbohydrate 13.72g
Dietary Fiber 0.4g
Sugars 10.15g
Protein 2.18g

AmberJae
06-25-2011, 09:43 PM
I too have struggled with the chocolate cake craving. I have found that you can't really find a substitute for real decadent chocolate cake so here is what I've found that squelches the craving without adding too many calories to the daily alotment.

Betty Crocker makes these amazing little single serving cake things called Warm Delights. You have to mixk up the batter, just add water, and pop it in the microwave. They are single serving so it's like a slice of cake but without the rest of the yummy cake looking at you when you've finished your first piece. The mini version of the Warm Delights come in a two pack and have only 150 calories per cake. I'm telling you, this works for me EVERY time. It's spot on fudgey cake goodness.

Check them out at the Betty website. It's a serious lifesaver. Much better than eating around the craving.

kimmieval
06-26-2011, 01:38 AM
I was just going to recommend the Betty crocker warm delights, even if you added 1 tsp of caramel to it, you would be way under the 600 calorie slice of cake and yet you would have a rich tasting chocolate cake.

I also find that getting a rich cupcake and removing all the junk icing can also be a rich treat at around 200-300 calories. I prefer to bake my own cakes and then giveaway most of it, thus I know what I put in there and I do not have any left over to splurge on. Sharing is all the easier when you are on the diets, for sure, my diet has sure made me kinder with my treats! lol

I found some receipes, some with reviews online.A slice of these cakes 1/12th of a slice is about 200 calories some even have marshmallow frosting and some use boxed cake mix with subsititutions for eggs and oils.

http://www.food.com/recipe/the-best-diet-chocolate-cake-or-muffins-190482
http://www.eatingwell.com/recipes/mini_molten_chocolate_cakes_with_mocha_sauce.html

sacha
06-26-2011, 08:29 AM
Substitutes never cut it for me. I would go order a slice of nice chocolate cake, along with a shot of espresso, and split it.

You CAN do this. Last night I ate 2 small slices of pepperoni pizza. 2! I am very proud, it makes me realize I CAN enjoy some things in moderation :)

mzKiki
06-26-2011, 03:57 PM
Deep Chocolate Vitatop. Open the end of the packet and put in microwave, 30 seconds, and let set in the packet for another 20 seconds or so. It comes out like a super moist, very chocolaty, warm cake. 100 calories plus lots of vitamins and fiber.

This always works for me with some FF cool whip on top!

PacSunMama
06-26-2011, 04:33 PM
Thanks everyone!! I haven't tried VitaTops, but I've heard great things. I also found a copycat recipe for them at dashingdish.com that I want to try out. I really didn't like the Warm Delights, they just didn't come even close enough to a yummy dessert.

My craving has subsided, for now. I've decided I'm going to make that cake a reward. Yes, a food reward for losing weight, which I know isn't a good idea. I desperately want to be out of the 200's, so when I do get there, I'm going to treat myself to share a slice of that cake with my hubby. Then it will also encourage me to really stay OP the rest of the week so I don't get back into the 200's!!

Thanks for all the advice and input, I appreciate all the ideas!!