Weight Loss Support - My "issue" with weight loss shows.




Porthardygurl
06-19-2011, 11:10 AM
Okay, so i watched Extreme Makeover, Weight loss Edition and may i say..it was nothing less than inspiring to see a big man like that lose his fat suit and transform into this young happy healthy man... Thats great!

HOWEVER.... as i am sitting there on the couch with my hunny and this guy who has lost all his weight says "if you want to do it bad enough, you can" and then my hunny looks at me and says "see, if you want it bad enough you can do it too".. Im getting irked..

The reason why im irked is because..in case you havent noticed..All of these people with all these glorious transformations have beenygiven everything they need in there house..They have been given a personal gym setup at home that they didnt have to pay for at all..They have been given access to a gym for free and a personal trainer for free and a custom plan for free...

Im sorry..but if i wanted to do that..lets look at the cost i would have to shell out to have that..

1) Treadmill-1500$ at the minimum because the 800$ ones are crap and dont have a weight capacity high enough for me to go on.

2)a set of weights.. well i would need a 5pound weight...for one its 5$ at walmart..and since we need 2 ..thats 10$..plus an 8 pound weight..thats 16$ for those two and a 10 pound weight..thats 20$ for two.. and 15 pound weight..thats 30$ for two..

3) Then there is an elliptical or bike.. and those are 1500$ for a good quality weight capacity thats high enough for me to use without breaking..

4)gym membership out here cost 50$

5) Personal trainer costs 80$ per session..and thats probably going to be 3 tims a week.. 240$


So based on what this man last night had... The cost for me to have all the tools in place is: $15,876.. give or take and thats based on having a gym membership for a year and a trainer 3 times a week for a year..

You may think im having a pity party here or something..but did you know that is roughly my salary for a year??? I make minimum wage..and thats roughly what i get paid for a year...


So i would have to spend all that money on gym equipent and personal help to obtain the tools that this man had last night..to be equal to him.. AND... lets not forget..that the amount of money i make would only pay for all that..That wouldnt leave me anything to cover my bills or expenses or groceries or child stuff for my daughter.. Im sorry..but its not possible for me to be supplied with everything he had..without it costing my enitre salary..

Do you see my point? How do-able is it for the average household to have everything that these people do..in order to achieve there weight loss goal?

Of course these people can..they have everything given to them that they need..Heck..if i had a treadmill and a set of weight.. i could lose all my weight to get to my goal..i dont need a trainer or a whole bunch of equipment..

My point is..its un-realistic..

I think that they should make a weight loss program for TV using only what a person would be able to find around there home..and i dont think they should have a trainer or fancy equipment or someone to tell them what not to eat..They should only be allowed to read a book, do there own grocery shopping and use whatever is in there house for gym equipment (aka cans for weights etc) Then lets see how well they do and how they meet there goal d how hard it is ... Cause honestly..thats what most of us have..We have a gym membership..a pair of running shoes for walking.. a book or internet and whatever is around our house..


Heather
06-19-2011, 11:15 AM
The shows might be unrealistic in terms of timeframe, but I lost 100 pounds without doing more than joining a gym (membership for 2 was 60something/month). Once I did that, I could use their equipment without paying more. I didn't start working out with a trainer until much later. If you're joining a gym, you don't also have to buy the other equipment.

Plus, there's lots of ways to exercise that don't cost a lot -- like walking.

For me, losing weight successfully really is about overcoming all the barriers I make for myself. Right now I'm not in a place where I'm overcoming them, so I understand the frustration.

fatferretfanatic
06-19-2011, 11:48 AM
You don't need any of those things really, to lose weight and exercise. I have nothing but some five pound weights that cost me like 10$, a 35 kettlebell that cost like 50$, and my body. You don't even need the weights. You can do body weight exercises! Your significant other is correct, if you really want to do it you can do it, and you don't even need to spend an extra penny beyond what it takes to buy yourself food, if you can't do that. You could just as easily make a show about it, but it would need realistic goals as well, healthy goals. It's hard when anyone does it, and I honestly wouldn't have traded places with any of those people on that extreme weightloss show. They work out for four hours a day or more. They cry when they workout sometimes. If I am crying during a workout something is wrong. You don't have to be extreme to lose weight. I work hard, for sure. But you know, I started by walking less than a mile and a half ever day and progressed from there. The point is, we all know the show is Hollywood. But that doesn't mean that you can't have just as amazing results, if not better by going it alone and just simply doing the best you can every day.


kellost
06-19-2011, 12:02 PM
Walking! I lost most of my weight just by walking (and of course eating well). I heard Dr. Oz say one time that everyone should walk at least 30 minutes per day. Well, at my heaviest, I didn't feel like exercising, but I thought "I can do that! I can walk". So I did. Slow at first, but then I tried to increase my speed over time. Eventually I went farther and longer, and worked up to walking 60 minutes some days.

Try walking, because it's free, it's an all-over body workout and it does work!

gonnadoitthistime
06-19-2011, 12:07 PM
Don't assume that most have gym memberships, I don't even have a car right now. Living very cheaply to accomplish some goals. Very limited food budget also, and no medical insurance. So many I should say people on food plans, have doctors helping them along, people that have gym memberships and money to spend on equipment/videos etc are "unrealistic" from my standpoint.
It's always been true that there are some people with more of the trappings that people think are required to reach any goal. Yet that doesn't really matter to many. The main thing is what is going on inside you.
They are just tv shows. If you don't like them, don't watch. I think it's great they are helping those people and providing an inspiration for many.

dragonwoman64
06-19-2011, 12:11 PM
the show buys all their groceries for the time period too (that's how the host knew he was downing fast food).

In the 3 episodes I've seen, all 3 people trying to lose weight struggled during the period after the host left them to their own devices (even with their groceries paid for and all that free exercise equipment at their fingertips). The first woman lost something like 6 lbs in 3 months. Seems to me like personal support makes a big difference -- when he was with them, training them and spurring them on.

I do think really wanting it is one component, sure. And if just having all the stuff given to you is all it took, then people like Oprah and Wynonna Judd wouldn't have weight issues.

No matter what, I figure I'm better off working on eating healthy and exercising and getting my eggs in a row to get back to losing this weight.

There are things that can be learned from those shows, like consistency is the key. Amen to that, and it's one of the hardest things for me to be eating-wise.

m3rma1d
06-19-2011, 12:16 PM
Everyone has a treadmill: It's called your feet and the ground.

But these shows can be frustrating. My boyfriend who just dumped me always used them against me, saying "If they can lose 10+ lbs a week, so can you!", etc.

dragonwoman64
06-19-2011, 12:17 PM
Walking! I lost most of my weight just by walking (and of course eating well). I heard Dr. Oz say one time that everyone should walk at least 30 minutes per day. Well, at my heaviest, I didn't feel like exercising, but I thought "I can do that! I can walk". So I did. Slow at first, but then I tried to increase my speed over time. Eventually I went farther and longer, and worked up to walking 60 minutes some days.

Try walking, because it's free, it's an all-over body workout and it does work!

yes, at my heaviest and for quite a while afterward that was my main mode of exercise. I love walking.

I used to hate exercising, I would have never imagined myself going to a gym. Now I love the gym. So, it really can be a process that happens over time.

dragonwoman64
06-19-2011, 12:23 PM
But these shows can be frustrating. My boyfriend who just dumped me always used them against me, saying "If they can lose 10+ lbs a week, so can you!", etc.

who wants to be with someone who constantly pressures you to be something else. I say count yourself lucky he's gone -- you probably would have gotten tired of that at some point and walked out the door yourself anyway.

Spooky
06-19-2011, 12:27 PM
True motivation and commitment can't be purchased. I have a gym membership and a weight watchers monthly pass (which together is about $100/month) and it is still a struggle to stay on track some days. I think you can do the best with what you have and not make any additional purchases beyond food. Calorie counting is free. This forum is free. You don't need a personal trainer, expensive equipment, etc. They are nice to have and they may make it a bit easier but they won't do the work for you.
You still have to do that.

Riemontana
06-19-2011, 12:34 PM
I don't have or need any of those things. I workout at home. I started using soup and water bottles as weights. I walk.

For me, although I am not a constant viewer, those shows make me feel that it is possible. I feel like I can come down from 250+ pounds if they can come down from 300 or 400.

Good luck everyone.

April Snow
06-19-2011, 12:57 PM
I think that they should make a weight loss program for TV using only what a person would be able to find around there home..and i dont think they should have a trainer or fancy equipment or someone to tell them what not to eat..They should only be allowed to read a book, do there own grocery shopping and use whatever is in there house for gym equipment (aka cans for weights etc) Then lets see how well they do and how they meet there goal d how hard it is ... Cause honestly..thats what most of us have..We have a gym membership..a pair of running shoes for walking.. a book or internet and whatever is around our house..

It may not be a TV show, but it's called 3 Fat Chicks and we are all right here, getting it done! And figuring out the ways around the various issues and obstacles all of us.

But I also know why the shows can be inspiring, that's not my life, and my results won't be the same. But I also know from seeing all the people on 3FC that I CAN do it - and it will be slower than some people and quicker than others, and it's all good, as long as we all get there in the end.

Lovely
06-19-2011, 01:02 PM
True motivation and commitment can't be purchased.

So true.

I roll my eyes at those weight loss shows. To be clear, it's great to see someone make a change... but just like any TV show, they do not air the whole truth. The truth as it is for the majority of the people in the world who are trying to lose weight healthfully.

"If you want it, you can do it." Yes.... but, weight loss is more complicated than just that.

For example, when I say "To lose weight eat less, move more" it's both that simple AND at the same time extremely complex! Because while the general overview of weight loss is to eat less and move more, there are the details of how that's done... getting a plan, sticking to the plan, finding support, dealing with plateaus and other frustrations. We are HUMAN!

You don't need to have every thing that the people have on TV when they lose weight. They have a treadmill? You have feet. They have a personal trainer? You have books, and your body weight. They have a team of people watching them 24/7? You have forums available for typing out all kinds of frustrations and reading a dozen responses to know that you ARE NOT ALONE.

What I don't like about the shows: When they make a mistake... it's made to seem like they're these weak people. People who just can't help but mess up, so they have to get yelled like animals until they get it through their skulls. No. We're human. Mistakes happen. The strongest thing we can do during these times is to acknowledge a mistake and learn from it, and MOVE PAST IT. They focus on the weight... not the change. They set these ridiculous weight goals for the people on TV, and if they do make it ... sure it's nice, but I've seen the disappointment when they don't make it. It's like the end of the world! WTF? That person just lost 50 pounds and they didn't lose 55 so that makes them a failure this week? NO! NO NO NO NO NO! I refuse to fall into that trap of loathing.

I'm not losing anything. I'm gaining a lot. I have learned more about myself while losing weight than any other time in my life. I have learned, specifically, that it's not actually about the weight for me. Yes. I have a lot of weight to take off, but that's not the goal...that's just icing. The goal is to be more active than I have ever been before in my life. The goal is to eat more filling foods, to eat more healthfully, to eat in moderation and listen to true hunger.

I'm not perfect, but looking at my personal goals... I'm already a success. No one can take that away.

And that's why I don't like those shows... >_>

Ahem. TL;DR - You can do this. You can do this your OWN way. No timelines. No expecting "extreme" shows to be everyone's story. Just one day at a time. Healthy, sustainable changes. :yes:

QuilterInVA
06-19-2011, 01:05 PM
No one gave me anything but I wanted badly to lose weight and made it the number one priority in my life and lost more than 200 pounds. If you have a defeatist attitude you will fail. Learn to get health and exercise and the weight will come off. You may have to come to grips with reasons why you eat and come up with alternatives, but that is part of the process.

Although the man was given an at home gym and had 3 months with his coach, he was on his own the last 9 months and he still did it. He could have let the gym equipment sit idle and eaten whatever he wanted. He chose to follow though and do what was necessary.

gagalu
06-19-2011, 01:31 PM
i'm a broke college kid and i can do it :}

you don't need to buy your own personal equipment. ****, you don't even need a gym membership. go outside and walk! move around some. get an exercise dvd! they're out there for $7-$10. don't make excuses. he had better access to things, but his case is a rare one and people who don't have that kind of plan are still capable of getting fit.

you don't need a personal fitness trainer. in fact, i'd advise against it until you're at a normal weight because fitness trainers want to focus on building muscle which is highly difficult to do in a calorie deficit while losing weight. a gym membership is not that bad. at a major gym, if they offer you $50 a month for a full year, i guarantee that you'll be able to talk them down to something more manageable. i recently got a gym membership and talked my guy down to $30 a month, because above all else, they want people to join their gym. negotiate. it will work.

you're over thinking this and are making it sound a lot harder than it has to be. you can feasibly lose weight by just reducing your caloric intake. you don't need a gym, although it does make the journey a little easier. and if you're worried about money, eating less is a sure way to save some. ;)

tuende
06-19-2011, 01:32 PM
It's a TV show, so I'm sure they do everything they can to manipulate the person's environment so that the individual is very likely to be very successful. I mean, the success of the show (and their profits) depend on it, right? I try to see at for what it is- it doesn't represent the average, but instead a best-case-scenario for weight loss. It's amazing what these people accomplish- if it were something easily achievable it wouldn't be a TV show. I try to learn from it, draw inspiration from their hard work and then go back to doing what I can with what I have. I do think there is some truth in the if-you-want-it-bad-enough statement. If you want it bad enough, you'll find a way to make it work in your life.

berryblondeboys
06-19-2011, 01:55 PM
The hardest part of losing weight is the gumption to do it. We are own worst enemies. We're afraid to try and fail or to really do what we need to do to lose the weight and keep it off. We're lazy and scared.

I do have a bike, gym membership, Wii Fit, videos and the money to buy whatever food I want.

However, all my videos are used - either given to me or purchased at Goodwill for a buck (all VHS tapes). The Wii Fit was a Christmas present to the family. The bike is new and has been ridden twice. The gym membership we've had for two years and i've gone ONCE. Yet, I've lost 53 pounds in less than 6 months. Why? I've been walking and doing those $1 aerobic videos - mostly walking. I usually walk 2.7 miles a day and I just work on getting faster and faster. That's a 40 minute workout for me now and it's getting the job done.

For food. I prepare the same foods as I always did, I just eat less of it and skip the starchy carbs. Instead of the couple of bags of chips I would eat a week, I now buy a couple boxes of protein bars for snacks and so on.

You do not need almost ANY of that stuff they were given to lose weight - what you need is for your head to be in the right place and to want to do it. To REALLY want to do it and to keep doing it for the rest of your life. Until then, no money and things thrown at it will solve the problem of being fat.

I don't watch these tv shows, but when I have seen them, I think the worst part is that their pace is unattainable for most people. Most people can't devote their entire days to losing weight and there's no reason for it! We didn't get fat in 6 months or a year, so why do we have to get thin that fast? This is a lifestyle change and so, to be more successful, we have to do it at a pace we can live with. Pure and simple. Thank goodness my husband understands that and supports that.

sacha
06-19-2011, 02:04 PM
Then look to those on here who have done anything from small to dramatic transformations without trainers, chefs, equipment.

The drive to do it is one part - the education to do it is the other part. No, will power/drive/motivation isn't 100% (although it is required) - you can be the most motivated person in the world but if you are uneducated on how to do it properly, you will still spin your wheels.

Luckily, that education is free here on 3FC too! Yes, there conflicts as to what is the magical solution to "X", but at the end of the day, every plan is about eating less and moving more. The details are that, the details, which may apply to you or may not. Again, that requires your motivation to educate yourself.

Rana
06-19-2011, 02:12 PM
I spent thousands of dollars in the past on gyms, equipment, books and I still didn't lose the weight.

What finally made me lose the weight was the decision that all the other excuses and lack of information were not going to hold me back this time around. Something snapped in my head that said, "Okay, we're really doing this now, no more excuses."

I spend less on food today than I did when I was 200 lbs and going out to eat all the time. I don't have a gym, but I do pay a monthly fee to attend as many spinning and pilates classes as I can manage in one month (and I go every day!). I also took the time to educate myself about my PCOS, my overall medical work up, and what that means to me, specifically.

I may have a million reasons to be fat, but I didn't want to stay fat anymore. I still have a bunch to lose, but I also know that it's not money or time that are preventing me from finishing this story........... it's all on my shoulders on the choices that I make every time I put food in my mouth or decide to exercise (or not!!!!).

lin43
06-19-2011, 02:52 PM
I do see your point. Although I think weight loss is difficult [but doable] regardless of what one has, having access to what those on these shows have access to has to make it easier. I haven't watched the shows you mention and I don't watch reality shows at all, but the one or two occasions when I have been flipping through channels and paused on The Biggest Loser, I've realized that they're in an artifical environment that has been tailored for weight loss. It's a bit more difficult here in the "real world."

Porthardygurl
06-19-2011, 02:58 PM
Okay.. i think you are missing the point people..Im not complaining because i dont think i can do it...

MY POINT IS: They should make shows that show how people take nothing in there life and lose there weight. The point is: we dont need fancy equipment or personal trainers ..My point is: These shows seem to show or show ordinary people losing weight with all there fancy gimmicks..Why not show a person at home that its possible to do it with little? Why not inspire and show success to people out there who think they cant do it cause they cant afford this or that.....

I myself have no problem just walking or whatever it may be...I know people can lose weight..but how much more inspiring would it be to see someone with nothing be able to do it? and yes i know we have each other here for support and w are lucky...cause a lot of people dont have that..and i think its better than a trainer in my opinion!

one small bowl
06-19-2011, 02:58 PM
Issue # 1 - "anyone can do it". Nothing irks me more than having a friend or loved one spout off that weight loss is a matter they seem to know so much about, yet they have no weight issue themselves. You didn't mention your BF size or weight, so I assume he is coming from a completely different perspective. He is also a male and I have yet to meet a man that truly understands the differences in male and female weight loss and gains. Even my dear husband thinks weight loss is a matter of exercise and cutting back....but he is heavier than I am and doesn't do it himself, just tells me what I need to do. People WATCHING TV tend to have an armchair philosophy.

Issue #2 - Reality TV....is not real. It is hyped, it is manipulated and you are right, they are given far more tools than the average person can afford to accomplish their loss with. Remember, that the show is called EXTREME and there's a clue right there. Extreme changes can produce extreme results, but how extreme does one have to be to maintain those results? Something to think about.

Issue #3 - It costs nothing to lose weight. Absolutely not a dime. Eating less and moving more beholds the truth. Each person has to figure out how much of each to do for themselves, their lifestyle, their age, their goals and this is an ongoing process for life. It's isn't a temporary thing to do to accomplish a goal. It takes just as much work to stay at the goal as it does to get there. Daunting and as frustrating as it can be, it is the reality, which is far removed from any reality TV program one can get.

sacha
06-19-2011, 03:17 PM
Okay.. i think you are missing the point people..Im not complaining because i dont think i can do it...

MY POINT IS: They should make shows that show how people take nothing in there life and lose there weight. The point is: we dont need fancy equipment or personal trainers ..My point is: These shows seem to show or show ordinary people losing weight with all there fancy gimmicks..Why not show a person at home that its possible to do it with little? Why not inspire and show success to people out there who think they cant do it cause they cant afford this or that.....

I myself have no problem just walking or whatever it may be...I know people can lose weight..but how much more inspiring would it be to see someone with nothing be able to do it? and yes i know we have each other here for support and w are lucky...cause a lot of people dont have that..and i think its better than a trainer in my opinion!

It would be wonderfully inspiring but would be a financial failure for the network as there is no sponsor to sell.

Fortunately, the internet is a small fee per month for whatever you want and bloggers usually don't make money, thank goodness for 3FC!

PS Have you seen "Village on a Diet" (it takes place in Taylor near Fort St John). Quite an eye opener and amazing. I'm originally from smaller town BC myself so I know a lot of what you speak of...

BowandArcher
06-19-2011, 03:26 PM
a simple gym costs about $25/month, garage sales are GREAT for finding work out equipment because a lot of people buy it, never use it, and sell it. Some gyms even offer free personal trainers and free yoga/zumba/cycling classes. And just think of the money saved buying mostly produce instead of packaged! Produce is dirt cheap and is exactly what makes a great diet.

so gym-check
equipment-check
trainers-check
diet plan-check

kurisitaru
06-19-2011, 03:30 PM
I know these shows can be unrealistic, but so is ANY show on television, lets be honest. I like shows like "The Biggest Loser" because it's inspiring to see a 400LB man get on a treadmill and push through all the pain and do it. Granted Jillian yelling at him probably adds to the pressure, but after forcing their way through the work outs, they can go for hours and make it look easy. It's inspiring. I tell myself that if I want to turn off the Zumba DVD or Tae Bo, that if a 300lb woman can handle an entire day with a work out that Bob and Jillian came up with, I can go another 10 or 20 minutes to an at home DVD. That and seeing everyone's transformation is wonderful too. Some contestants lose the amount I am striving for and to see there is a difference, makes me want it that much more.

I think you have to take every show with a grain of salt. It's not realistic for us to have a personal trainer every day, a full gym everyday, and people monitoring what we eat, but we have other things at our disposal (like everyone said above me). All shows are fake, even the sitcoms. I use to think I would have a different date every week if I moved to the city because of watching "Friends" or that a waitress could make enough money to have designer clothes and go out ALL the time. All shows leave us expecting things that just can't happen. Those are only a few examples...

lillyw
06-19-2011, 04:03 PM
I think you have a point about showing realistic situations for ordinary people. CBC had a show called "Village on a Diet" last season. They did bring in a trainer, an MD, a psychologist, and a chef, and built a gym for the town, but the people stayed in their everyday life and all this was shared by the whole town. It was about people supporting each other rather than competing. The challenge was for the whole town to collectively lose a ton and the "prize" was better health. I didn't like all the artificial drama they think they have to make up to get people to watch, but I liked the show. It showed what people can do when they help each other. And they did a follow-up about what happened when the experts left, and the town continued to lose weight.

Snoofie
06-19-2011, 04:28 PM
I used to get irked by those weight-loss shows too (and still do, really, but for a different reason). But, as others have pointed out before me: you don't need a fancy personalized training program, a personal trainer, or even a gym membership to lose weight. I've been unemployed for a year and cannot even afford to join the local Y, but I've still managed to lose 29 pounds since January just by walking alone. I own a pair of 4 lb weights, but they were $3 apiece at Canadian Tire. That's the most expensive piece of "equipment" I own.

The guy on the weight-loss show and your SO...they're both right: If you put your mind to it, you CAN do it, just like those people on the weight-loss shows. Sure, you might not lose 10+ pounds in a week the way they do (which, I might add, is what irks me about those shows; I think they give unrealistic expectations in terms of "typical" weight loss) but you WILL lose weight if you just eat a little less and move a little more. You need to burn more calories than you take in, it's that simple -- and you don't need any special tools for that, just your two feet! :)

linJber
06-19-2011, 04:37 PM
I agree with what everyone else has said. You don't have to spend a lot of money to get in shape. And if you do want to spend a little money, some 5 pound weights, resistance bands, and a fitness ball will allow you to do a great workout at home for a small amount of money.

I joined a gym when they had a special of $15.00 per month if you committed to a year. That was January 13 of this year. I try to go every day after work. I've drastically changed my eating habits - half portions (or less!) and very little potatoes, rice, pasta, or bread. Lots of salads.

Personal commitment and attitude change is key. Exercise will help speed up the metabolism and tone your muscles. But the way you eat is the key to getting the pounds off. No equipment required to eat sensibly.

Good luck to you.

Lin

Regera Dowdy
06-19-2011, 05:10 PM
These shows seem to show or show ordinary people losing weight with all there fancy gimmicks..Why not show a person at home that its possible to do it with little? Why not inspire and show success to people out there who think they cant do it cause they cant afford this or that..... [...] how much more inspiring would it be to see someone with nothing be able to do it?

I see what you mean. It would be more interesting to see a show where someone wasn't spirited away to a fancy weight loss camp or resort. They could still have a doctor and trainer giving out basic, tried and true advice. You know how they have those design on a budget shows on HGTV? Maybe they could have it as a weight loss on a budget show where the guru helps them find equipment at yard sales and gives tips on exercises that can be done in a small living room. They could show you cheap ways to prepare healthy foods. They could have little segments for interviews with medical professionals and nutrition experts (maybe people could write in questions), but the majority of each episode would focus on one person's journey. They could document it with body measurements, blood lipids, and endurance tests instead of just making it about the scale. And if the person lost 100 lbs or lost no pounds but lost inches or if they only improved their cholesterol any of it would be considered a success instead of the guru saying, "Gee, I'm disappointed in you."

About advertisers: I think there could still be advertisers for that be it from sporting goods stores, low calorie foods, gyms, shortened exercise DVD infomercials, fancy kitcken gadgets, bottled water, cholesterol meds, whatever else is on TV now. Maybe the weight loss pill, Nutrisystem, and Biggest Loser people would lose out, but oh well. I'd still watch it.

Spooky
06-19-2011, 05:17 PM
There used to be a show on Fit TV called 'house calls' or something similar and there were two personal trainers and they would drop in on someone who wanted to lose weight/get fit, do a fitness assessment, and teach them how to do workouts at home with the stuff they had (I remember them teaching a housewife how to do rows with laundry detergent, for example).
Not as flashy as Biggest Loser or the other ones but very doable and they'd pop back in a few months later and see how they made out. It was interesting.
Also there's 'I used to be fat' on Logo and they are paired with a personal trainer but it is up to the person to work out, stay on the food plan, etc. Some people are very motivated and lose a lot of weight and some aren't.
Just like in real life.

JohnP
06-19-2011, 05:27 PM
I haven't seen every weight loss show but the ones I don't like are the one's like Biggest Loser when they're ENTIRE LIFE is about losing weight.

This is why not all biggest loser contestants have kept their weight off dispite the massive resources they had.

I had a gym membership for 8 years and went twice. I was too ashamed to cancel so I just kept paying the monthly fees. Fortuantely they went out of business and they monthly shame fee ended. :D

ahyessophie
06-19-2011, 06:30 PM
Like a lot of stuff on TV, the people on these shows are impossible to relate to, and I think that's what's most frustration. On the one hand, they're showing how these people can lose weight through diet, exercise and a whole lot of hard work, and they're giving viewers some important information on health. They are also showing the struggles people experience while losing weight, and not just the magical results and before and after pictures.

But, even though we can admire the hard work and results a lot of contestants achieve, the circumstances are completely different to most of ours. Like JohnP said, most of us don't have all-day, everyday to devote to weight loss for months (or years!). We are also not living with tons of other people experiencing the same thing. Weight loss is something we are trying to tackle on top of work, school, taking care of children, or whatever else is on your plate at the moment, and it's something we are often doing alone.

Should we expect to see the same results in the same amount of time? Probably not. Can we still do it? Absolutely - but I know you already know that. I think we can take away a few important things from these shows, but not compare ourselves too much to them.

IsabellaOlivia
06-19-2011, 07:14 PM
Jillian Michaels DVD's doesn't cost 15 000 dollars a year. You can borrow them for free at the library.
Walking is free, no need for a treadmill.
You don't need expensive books to gain knowledge of healthy eating. Everything is google able online.
And this last part cannot be emphasized enough:Motivation has to come from within. Don't rely on other people to inspire you. Oprah has all the things you mentioned you 'needed' to lose weight. However, she has struggled her whole life with weight.

Start looking for possibilities instead of obstacles.

amfay11
06-19-2011, 08:24 PM
I use bodyrock exercises... Zuzana has amazing body weight, high intensity exercises....

I also walk/jog my neighborhood and lift weights.

HTH! :)

ahyessophie
06-19-2011, 08:41 PM
I use bodyrock exercises... Zuzana has amazing body weight, high intensity exercises....

I also walk/jog my neighborhood and lift weight.

HTH! :)

Just an aside - I've seen her site, how do you like her exercise program? I'm a bit intimidated since I'm quite out of shape and her workouts seem short but incredibly demanding

amfay11
06-19-2011, 09:08 PM
I can't do her whole routine. I don't have too much to lose (45 pounds) but its a slow process because all my body fat is in my midsection/thighs/butt.

I take things like burpess, push-ups, high knees, mountain climbers, and incorporate other things she has and just do as many as i can.

For instance: I'll do each exercise for 20 seconds and rest for 10, from what I understand this method is called tabata, and if you want to sweat do 4 exercises 2 times and they will get your heart pumping! I only do these exercises on the days I am lifting (3 days per week) The rest of the time is swimming or walk/jog. :dizzy: :moo: But her body is my ultimate goal. I want to be ripped, lean and hawt! Good Luck!

Nola Celeste
06-19-2011, 09:31 PM
I agree that "Moderate, Sensible Long-Term Makeover: Weight Loss Edition" would be a more realistic show, but as others mentioned, there would be less of a market for it. Weight-loss shows draw audiences in direct proportion to how "extreme" they become. The show with the biggest people, the quickest weight loss, the most vomit and the cruelest trainers wins the ratings.

It's deplorable, but true.

So why watch those shows if they don't present a true picture of what long-term weight loss really entails? It sounds like watching them makes you feel frustrated and desperate for a quick weight-loss fix as much as it makes you feel inspired, so give 'em up. There are way better things to do for an hour each day than watch reality television that isn't even real.

I read these forums regularly and one thing I've noticed about your posts, PHG, is this sense of "it MUST come off now!" Is there a deadline coming up in your life that makes you feel the need to lose quickly? I could be wrong, but it seems to be such a common thread in your more frustrated posts that I noticed it. Is it possible that you could lose comfortably and cheaply, but slowly instead of wishing for the most expensive options or the most extreme results?

There are a lot--I mean a lot--of people on these forums who have collectively lost literal tons of weight without spending a dime on gym memberships or special food programs (not that there's anything wrong with Medifast or Jenny Craig or other prepared-meal plans, but they are costly). If you don't need to rush, why look for the quick fix or feel annoyed that people on TV lose more quickly?

I'd bet that most of us see these shows and think, "Yeah, I could lose that quickly too if I had all my meals cooked for me, took a sabbatical from my job, and had personal trainers getting on my *** constantly." But even that isn't true. Want proof? Look at other rich famous people who surely had access to these things and still carry extra weight. They have those advantages and they still find it very tough, maybe even impossible.

I don't mean to say that it truly is impossible for them or for you, of course. There are too many success stories here to believe that a healthier body isn't possible for all of us. But it doesn't have to be fast and it doesn't have to be expensive. In fact, I'm finding for the first time in my life that slow and cheap works just fine--better, really, as this way I learn to adjust to being a slimmer, more active person instead of a "fat chick in a thin chick's body."

astrophe
06-19-2011, 10:22 PM
I'm sorry your partner's comment annoyed you. I think he was trying to be encouraging but it didn't quite turn out that way.

Of course "reality TV shows" aren't real. It's "Reality." Try not to let it bug you so much.

A.,

raebeaR
06-19-2011, 10:26 PM
PHG, I second what Nola Celeste has said. I've noticed the same things about your posts. You put a lot of pressure on yourself.

In direct response to your post, I think many have already pointed out the obvious: It's EXTREME Makeover, so to expect anything else is nuts. (I don't watch these shows myself.)

I make foods I love and eat a lot less of them, in healthier versions. No special foods here. I purchased a used BowFlex machine on craigslist and use it for resistance training 3 times a week. Total cost: $90. I use my own body weight for other resistance exercises. For cardio, I walk or bike. Cost: Zero.

To be honest, I personally think THE MOST important component of weight loss is ACCEPTING WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU. For some inspiration, I suggest reading some of kaplods' posts. She has compellingly expressed in many of her posts coming to terms with losing her weight slowly. But here's the thing: She's successful! She's not competing, she's doing it all on a budget, and she's making it happen!

It's the tortoise and the hare. Who wins in the end? Really, does it matter how fast you lose? Or does it matter that you lose and keep it off? I think the practice of learning how to eat in a whole new way and continue that for a lifetime is far more important than getting the weight off fast.

Don't let others pressure you into unreasonable goals. Accept what works best for YOU.

Put your head in the right place and your body will follow. :) And yeah, I know... it's hard. :hug:

Best, Rae

shcirerf
06-20-2011, 01:05 AM
TV shows, are TV shows, and they keep their slot if the viewing, and advertising dollars say it is working.

Some of then I watch, some I don't. With my Dish package, so far, I haven't found the extreme makeover show.

It's just a TV show!

The real REALITY is if you want to lose, you have to eat a bit less, and move more. It will work.

If you have an SO, who give you crap, well, you need to decide if the relationship is worth it or not.

For myself, I am 51 years old, I have a set of twin boys, that I carried to full term. ( both a bit over 6# each) I weighed 135 when I got pregnant and 195 when I delivered. That may no seem like much, but a 60 pound gain in 9 months is a lot. I have stretch marks and saggy girls like you would not believe. 31 years later, I still have the same hubby. We won't even start on his injuries, and amputations,and A-fib and heart surgery and such.

His injuries and health issues, while it's tough, have not stopped, although now and then stalled, my efforts towards a better lifestyle and a healthier body.

Losing weight and regaining your body through a good nutrition and exercise program, is a long haul and a long process, but it is worth it.

I do get what the point you are making about the show, but, that is not the reality for most of us.

For most of us, the reality is, to find a good nutritional/calorie/exercise/body image/emotional balance, we can live with and support throughout whatever creative means we can come up with.

CeciliaM
06-20-2011, 01:29 AM
Yeah, that's true. But what they are doing is OVERKILL. It's like the biggest loser, they do NOTHING else but exercise, they don't work, they don't have commitments, they don't have homework assignments!
I lost pretty much my first 50 pounds by JUST walking and eating right, and less. That's all. I've just joined a gym to get rid of the like 20 so pounds because it takes a bit more.
And as someone else said you pay for a membership and they have all the class, all the equiptment from 6am-9pm at night! Pretty good deal I think. Usually they also offer sign-up specials, or personal training deals.
I'm with FitnessFirst ( I know a lot of peope bash on them!) But yeah, here it was a $70 sign up, and $30 a fortnight. I never have to pay that $70 again. I go to AT LEAST 20 classes a fornight, that's max$1.50 per 1hr class. That's pretty cheap to me! ;)

kaplods
06-20-2011, 03:09 AM
Television shows reflect our cultural beliefs and stereotypes (which is why they're so watchable, people believe the hype), and my problem with weight loss shows is the same problem I have with our cultural beliefs and stereotypes regarding weight loss. Two, especially are my pet peeves

#1. If you want it badly enough, you can acheive anything (weight loss specifically).

#2. To succeed, you need all the advantages that money can buy (regarding weight loss that means - no job, lots of money, and all the support money can buy).


They're mutually exclusive (both can't be true at the same time), and yet we sort of believe them both (sometimes at the same time, or at least a constant wavering between the two).


The truth lies somewhere in between, but we almost never hear or see stories from the middle. So we sometimes think that unless we have all the advantages, we can't make it. Or we think that if a person (even sometimes ourself) is having difficulty, it must be because the person is somehow subconsciously "not ready" and sabotaging him or her self. We either blame ourselves (but with no idea how to change) or we excuse ourselves (believing change is impossible without resources we don't have).

Entertainment media is not going to provide realistic "in the middle" stories, but 3FC does. Many of us are "middle of the road" success stories. The success isn't as dramatic on the middle road, and that is a disadvantage, because another weight loss myth/belief we have to deal with is that slow weight loss doesn't really count for much, in fact - it's practically seen as failure.

When I was a Weight Watcher's member, and would have a no-loss week (no gain, but not a loss), the weight recorder would make that "sympathy face" and would console me and tell me not to get discouraged.

Well, that's supportive isn't it? I used to think so. Now I don't. Especially since I would often get the sympathy face and consolation not just for no-loss weeks, but for small-loss weeks as well. The weight recorder and I should have been jumping for joy at both the no-gain and the small loss weeks.

I didn't fully realize that until I complained to my doctor about losing only a couple pounds a month, that "I should be losing at least 2 lbs a week like normal people," and my doc reminded me that "normal people" lose absolutely nothing, because they give up and gain it back - that even my 1-2 lbs a month, was beating the odds, and the longer I kept it up, the further ahead of normal it put me. I've lost 90 lbs. That's not normal, that's exceptional, and yet I've lost every one of those 90 lbs at a "failing" pace. At a pace, no one - including myself would have defined as success. That was my (and our culture's) problem. If I, my parents, and our society had seen 1 lb a month as success when I first started dieting I would never have given up. I would have no reason to (I always gave up because I felt like I was failing, when sadly I was just succeeding more slowly than everyone, including myself was telling me I had to).

We don't accept the middle ground very easily when it comes to weight loss. Small obstacles seem insurmountable, because we want rapid and impressive results. And on the other hand, we also label large obstacles as "just excuses" when we want to feel horrible and guilty for failing.

Finding the middle ground - accepting responsibility and finding ways around obstacles without hating ourselves and jumping off plan to punish and reward ourselves at the same time (it's those warring belief systems again - wanting to tell ourselves that it's not really our fault and we deserve the comfort food brings, while also seeing ourselves as weak, unworthy and unable to succeed. Where the food becomes as much punishment as reward).

I have a graduate degree in psychology and it still took me 15 years beyond graduate school to realize that I was following a lemmings path. I was attempting weight loss the way almost everyone does (in a way that leads to failure far, far, far more often than success). I knew the common path wasn't an effective one, but I didn't know how to break the mold. I kept throwing myself harder and harder at the same brick wall, and wondering why I only became more and more wounded and less and less able to make an impression on the wall.

I had to learn to walk around the wall rather than trying to climb it or burst through it with sheer determination.

Sadly, I don't think slower, more comfortable weight loss is going to catch on any time soon. Even guilt-free weight loss isn't very popular. We're taught that we're supposed to hate ourselves for being larger than we'd like to be, for eating when we "shouldn't" or eating something we "shouldn't!"

We're taught to make weight loss more stressful than it has to be (and then we're taught to feel guilty for feeling stressed - because now we know that stress hormones and sleep deprivation can actually cause weight gain).

We've created a no-win situation with weight loss, and the only way to win is to learn to do it differently than we've been taught. How we end up being different can vary, but there is no way to "follow the crowd" and succeed - at least not until we get a lot more folks succeeding so we can follow.

3FC and other weight loss support systems break the mold every day, because we're also taught that needing help is a weakness. We're supposed to be able to do it on our own, and weight loss is a taboo subject that we're not supposed to discuss in polite company - we're not even supposed to admit that we notice when someone is fat - to the point that when a nearly-400 lb person refers to being fat, she's told "you're not fat," (many of you've heard my tell this story. When a coworker told me this I practically peed my pants laughing - and in doing so, I deeply offended her. I was in the wrong for breaking the social taboo of admitting to fatness and not pretending that I wasn't fat).

How can we address a problem, if we're not even allowed to talk about it without offending someone?

Places like 3FC are a haven (and in-person groups like WW and TOPS and First Place, and other weight loss groups too). Because if you're going to break society's mold, it helps to have other rule-breakers at our backs.

As every teenager knows, it's hard to be a nonconformist, without having a counterculture to belong to. Breaking the rules and rewriting them all by yourself, just isn't any fun.

Chubbykins
06-20-2011, 10:07 AM
I can once again speak only for myself.
Since I started my health journey which includes weightloss I saved 2500 euro just from living healthy. (9 months ago)
Yes, I actually "made" money passively. And a lot of it.
It is cheaper to buy salads and fruit on the market than 2300 calories worth of junk in take-out shops and the super-market freezer.
It is cheaper and more effective to train alone when you know how. You do not need to pay anything to learn how to do correct sit-ups and how to walk in a brisk pace in the correct body position. It is also easy to learn how to hold your weights during light aerobics. It is all on the net. Search and cross reference.
If you don't have a serious disability, like missing legs, or a terrible condition like crohns syndrome you CAN lose weight. It is the simple truth.
The difference is if you will let yourself. Because it will be tiring, it will be uncomfortable and it will be hard. But those things can also be pleasurable despite what we think.
You might lose friends, you might lose traditions, you might even lose your husband, but that doesn't mean that you Can't if you're willing.

The real question is what are you willing to give up forever or put in line.
If it is not enough you should make peace with being fat and have those things you can't part with.

Life is give and take. There is simply no way to eat 3000 cal worth of junk food, sit all day and be slim. It's simple.

sweetnlow28
06-20-2011, 10:28 AM
I watched the Biggest Loser for one season but I didn't care for it. I do find more down to earth weight loss shows to be inspiring but these "get skinny quick" to win money shows just make me angry because they give the message that the average person needs to work out for half of the day to lose weight. They barely even talk about food choices which is so much more important than exercise! I do enjoy some of the lower budget shows like X-Weighted and last 10 pounds boot camp. I know they are not 100% reality but they are close enough to keep me on track and reminded of my goals ;)

mzKiki
06-20-2011, 10:33 AM
I think it's easy to focus on what we don't have. I used to look at Jennifer Hudson on the WW commercials and think of course she lost all that weight I'm sure she has a trainer and a chef. But what right do I have to have that attitude towards her hard work no matter how she achieved it.
Bottom line, if you want it bad enough you can do it!
I have a gym membership (20 a month) and I never use it! I work out at home with DVD's, some DVD's I have use chairs for toning exercises. I'm going to start running.
I also have a treadmill that's in the garage collecting dust! And I didn't pay $1500 for it. I got it off of Craigslist for $70 and it works great. Bottom line, I wish I had free meals and trainer and house and it would be easier I'm sure! But since we don't we still have to make it.
Look around at garage sales or on craigslist. I've seen some bikes for as low as $20.
Good luck in your weightloss endeavors!

mzKiki
06-20-2011, 10:36 AM
I watched the Biggest Loser for one season but I didn't care for it. I do find more down to earth weight loss shows to be inspiring but these "get skinny quick" to win money shows just make me angry because they give the message that the average person needs to work out for half of the day to lose weight. They barely even talk about food choices which is so much more important than exercise! I do enjoy some of the lower budget shows like X-Weighted and last 10 pounds boot camp. I know they are not 100% reality but they are close enough to keep me on track and reminded of my goals ;)

This is a new show that comes on ABC it wasn't quick, they worked with the man for an entire year.
I agree with you about the biggest loser. They are there for a matter of weeks, they work out 9 hours a day and eat subway (lol).Uh, not thanks. That's just not very realistic to me.

racrane
06-20-2011, 12:07 PM
I understand that it's frustrating that they are given everything, but it more annoys me the attitude that they take, how canned and how they find someone to feel sorry for. I'm not saying it's great they get someone to get their life back, but it annoys me that the only reason these shows are on the air is because it makes them money. That's what I really hate about it. Everything on these shows works - people watch it and it brings in the bucks. That's why I wont watch these shows. Not that there's anything wrong with the people, I just won't support the overall idea of a tv show.

sidanne42
06-20-2011, 12:21 PM
i'm a broke college kid and i can do it :}

you don't need to buy your own personal equipment. ****, you don't even need a gym membership. go outside and walk! move around some. get an exercise dvd! they're out there for $7-$10. don't make excuses. he had better access to things, but his case is a rare one and people who don't have that kind of plan are still capable of getting fit.

you don't need a personal fitness trainer. in fact, i'd advise against it until you're at a normal weight because fitness trainers want to focus on building muscle which is highly difficult to do in a calorie deficit while losing weight. a gym membership is not that bad. at a major gym, if they offer you $50 a month for a full year, i guarantee that you'll be able to talk them down to something more manageable. i recently got a gym membership and talked my guy down to $30 a month, because above all else, they want people to join their gym. negotiate. it will work.

you're over thinking this and are making it sound a lot harder than it has to be. you can feasibly lose weight by just reducing your caloric intake. you don't need a gym, although it does make the journey a little easier. and if you're worried about money, eating less is a sure way to save some. ;)

Awesome post! I totally agree and I LOOOOVVVVVEEEEE your Lady Gaga post! I have lost 54 lbs. on Medifast. The packaged foods help, but the motivation, inspiration, ability to stay on track, I must cultivate and maintain on my own. Posts like yours encourage me even more to continue to reach for a life without limitations. Thanx -- you ROCk!!! :carrot:

Sidanne

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sidanne42
06-20-2011, 12:23 PM
Awesome post! I totally agree and I LOOOOVVVVVEEEEE your Lady Gaga post! I have lost 54 lbs. on Medifast. The packaged foods help, but the motivation, inspiration, ability to stay on track, I must cultivate and maintain on my own. Posts like yours encourage me even more to continue to reach for a life without limitations. Thanx -- you ROCk!!! :carrot:

Sidanne

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Oops! I meant to say I love your Lady Gaga QUOTE! :)

Sidanne :dizzy: