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southernbelle102
05-31-2011, 04:00 AM
I just watched the new Extreme Makeover show: Weight loss addition. I have very mixed feelings about it. I think it is great to show these transformations to try to inspire change in others. However, when the girl on tonight's show missed her goal of 135 lbs lost in 6 months by just 5 lbs, the host of the show seemed really disappointed. That is CRAZY to me. This girl has lost 130 lbs in 6 months (or at least thats what they said) and she is standing there crying because she didn't meet the crazy unrealistic goal they had set for her. That is pretty disappointing. What are y'all's thoughts on the show?


khat
05-31-2011, 08:23 AM
Didn't see the show but OMG 130lbs in 6 months?!!?? I guess she had a bit more to lose and it goes a bit faster at first but what the ****?! What she just didn't eat or what diet did she follow? Poor thing..

astrophe
05-31-2011, 09:13 AM
Never seen it. But I think show called "Extreme Makeover" is in it for the ratings, and the drama not the people themselves. So I'm not surprised to hear of this. :(

I agree that the goal of 135 in 6 mos is really a lot -- 3/4 lbs a DAY?! That's kinda harsh to the body. Sad to have such a set up. Then the girl -- 130/135 is 96% achieved. Exactly how is that done off camera? Sounds... kinda scary frankly.

I hope she recovers from it all ok.

A.


Beach Patrol
05-31-2011, 09:22 AM
I don't watch shows like that, not even The Biggest Loser. I feel like they are all unrealistic. Even on BL people have specialists & trainers etc helping them... your normal everyday joe (such as me & you) - we don't get that. And we can't contribute 6 hours a day to working out, etc. So those kinds of shows don't do anything positive for me/my outlook, so I refuse to contribute any of my time to them (when I could be using that time working out instead of sitting on my butt watching TV, LOL!!!) :D

kaplods
05-31-2011, 09:25 AM
I have to admit, that when I saw the clips, I was hoping the show would be motivating and I was interested in seeing it (even though I had my doubts).

I'm very glad I missed it. I find it so incredibly sad that good sense is thrown out the window where weight loss is involved. Exploitive show or not, it's absolutely horrific.

Although I have to admit, even the Extreme Makeover Home Edition has always bugged me. So often they create homes that are unmaintainable on the salaries of the homeowner. The people can't afford to fix their home, so EM comes in and creates a mansion for them - then the utilities and taxes are so high that the family has to sell the mansion they've fallen in love with in order to afford a home they can actually live in. Of course the viewing audience never sees that, so who cares?

sevencallmemom
05-31-2011, 09:34 AM
130 in 6 months?! I'm almost afraid to hope for 120 in a year!

How sad that they made her feel bad about that 5 pounds. :(

berryblondeboys
05-31-2011, 09:53 AM
What a real trainer would do would be to celebrate the progress and to make strategies to continue. NO ONE should be upset about a # on the scale if they are following the plan. We aren't machines/robots. We can't know what one person can lose versus another and being within 5 lbs???? HELLO???

To me that doesn't even make good television (and I too don't watch such shows). How many people did that just turn off the show??? Because ANYONE can see what she accomplished should be celebrated - not chastised!

Gigi33
05-31-2011, 09:54 AM
I watched it last night. It was really heavy on the drama and crying, but there was nothing else on so I sort of zoned out and watched it. My only real problem with this and other similar shows is that they show these people focused only on weight loss. That's their job for 3, 6, 12 months. Nothing else. They also exercise 4 to 8 hours a day. What are they going to deal in the real world?

Also, I was surprised that at one of the check-ins she had only lost 3 pounds. This is when she mentioned the 4+ hour a day workouts. So either there's a major medical problem or she'd eating way too much.

I'm glad she did lose 130 #s by the end and hope she continues on her road to weight loss.

bargoo
05-31-2011, 09:57 AM
I saw the show for the first time. I have to say that trainer was a jerk. he appeared quite angry and dissappointed that she had not lost that additional 5 pounds. She came back again after several months and has now lost 161 pounds.However she only got down to 208 and not the 199 that HE thought she should have lost.Sheesh ! She deserves a huge amount of credit but I just don't think these extreme weight loss measures are the best way to lose.

sevencallmemom
05-31-2011, 09:58 AM
Actually by the end she had lost alot more than 130. A friend watched it and was texting me...I think she went from 369 to 208. Is that right?

OhMyDogs
05-31-2011, 10:06 AM
I for one found the show inspiring. While I don't plan on losing 161lbs in a year, that amount of weight loss is really no different than Heavy or Biggest Loser.

I went to bed focused on losing weight, and working harder to do so. I woke up inspired to move more, and try harder. I don't expect or anticipate the sort of weight loss that Rachel had, but I know I can do better than what I am doing now.

And while yes, Chris the trainer seemed a little disappointed that she didn't meet the goal and lost 50/55lbs in phase 2 (which was 3 months long), she still got the "reward" of going bungee jumping.

In total she lost 161lbs in a year. That averages out to 13.4lbs per month.

bargoo
05-31-2011, 10:09 AM
Actually by the end she had lost alot more than 130. A friend watched it and was texting me...I think she went from 369 to 208. Is that right?

She lost a total of 161 pounds, Remarkable.

saef
05-31-2011, 10:13 AM
The TV show I'm going to watch (if they ever, ever produce it -- or if someone ever comes up with it to begin with) is called "My New Thin Life." It picks up after these extreme televised weight-loss regimens are over, when the person who's lost over 100 pounds walks away from the cameras, the ranch, the dieticians, the doctors, the trainers, and back to her job & family & friends. And it features episode like her having to deal with a picnic, or a cookie exchange, or doughnut day at the office, or a road trip where the family only wants to stop at McDonald's. And her having to get up at 5 AM & go to the gym when it's raining or snowing or bitter cold or so muggy even her eyelids are sweating, and everyone else is sleeping in or lazing over the Sunday paper & eating a Grand Slam breakfast with puddles of maple syrup. That's all it is, from week to week. Just plain old day in & day out life.

Yeah, that'll really draw the advertisers and the ratings numbers.

JustPeachy
05-31-2011, 10:21 AM
She lost 161 pounds in a year. Biggest Loser seasons are taped over a courser of 6 months aren't they? The trainer was disappointed FOR HER because he knew she really wanted to have the skin removal surgery and was afraid she wouldn't be able to. I was disappointed that she only lost 3 pounds at that 3 month weigh in, she clearly wasn't doing what she should have to progress, even with the long workouts. Imagine what she must have been eating to only lose 3 pounds after working out 4 hours a day??? I know her family was sabatoging her efforts food wise, she admitted that much. But she had an amazing opportunity that she ASKED for and I feel like maybe she should have tried a little harder, I would have moved out if that's what it would take for my success. But still, she lost a lot of weight in a fairly short amount of time.

Maybe what this show lacks that BL doesn't is trying to find the emotional/internal reasons why we fail when we want so badly to lose weight. I didn't see any real psychological discussions about how she got there and how to keep from getting back to 369 again on the show last night.

saggzz
05-31-2011, 10:35 AM
I often wonder, after people lose such significant amounts of weight in a short time,how their gall bladders hold out. I have heard ( not sure how true it is), but when people lose a lot of weight quickly they tend to have issues with gall stones etc. and have to have them removed.
It would be interesting to see if that is really true.

berryblondeboys
05-31-2011, 10:47 AM
Funny you should say that about the gall bladder. A friend of mine lost about 100 pounds in less than a year. She then had gall stones (and they though cancer) and had to have the 'old fashioned' gall bladder removal surgery. Six months later, she is still regaining strength and stamina from that surgery!

xHannahxBux
05-31-2011, 11:09 AM
That's a crazy amount to lose & to me sounds a bit unhealthy-she must have been pushing herself hard. She shouldn't be crying bc she's already accomplished SO MUCH! 135lbs lost! She should be estatic, but you never know what was running through her head.

bargoo
05-31-2011, 11:09 AM
I thought there was something creepy about that trainer. I wouldn't want to be around him. I thought the bungee jump was her punisment for not reaching the goal that He had set.

Coondocks
05-31-2011, 11:37 AM
Also, I was surprised that at one of the check-ins she had only lost 3 pounds. This is when she mentioned the 4+ hour a day workouts. So either there's a major medical problem or she'd eating way too much.

She said it was all nutrition. She went shopping, portioned what she needed, then when supply ran low she ate what was there - what was convenient.
That was an eye opener for me, it really is all about the food, more so than even I realized.

Other wise, it's just like any other show of its kind. Take it with a grain of salt, learn what you can and rememer its just TV, another show to 'entertain'

fatferretfanatic
05-31-2011, 12:10 PM
I have mixed feelings about this show. One one hand, I like seeing a person losing weight and how they did it, how they felt about it, etc. On the other hand, the feelings about not losing more or faster, etc seem disordered to me. That's an amazing goal to hit. I mean, absolutely amazing. Why the tears? We all make mistakes, hiccups, etc. She lost 3 pounds her last three months, but only after a rapid, rapid weight loss. That is a success. Stalls are to be expected, and that's just life. She did amazingly. Also, I don't think there is any need to be in so much pain while exercising that you have to cry. To me, that would be a sign to dial things back.

Beck
05-31-2011, 02:04 PM
I watched, but was not impressed with the content of the show. I agree that Rachel looked great, but I thought her attitude at the beginning to be pretty pathetic. She said something along the lines of, "Now I have a future" after learning that she was chosen for the program.

It makes me angry that largely obese people watching the show might get the impression that only participating in The Biggest Loser or Extreme Makeover body edition will get them to their goals. We here are 3FC know that we create our own future, and with strength, determination, and motivation we can lose the weight on our own.

I wished the show talked more about amount of calories, how much carbs, protein, fat allowed, what sort of exercise regimen she was on, etc. If the point of the show is to inspire people to do this on their own, then there needs to be more content; I feel the same with TBL (not enough food information, too much exercise focus). I'd also like them to list not just starting weight, but height and BMI as well.

I was also a little disappointed in how the dessert moment was handled by Rachel. She was forcing the dessert on her brother because she didn't want to restaurant to be offended by the fact that she wasn't going to eat hers. That's not a healthy attitude to take, as I'm sure she's had food encouraged on her in her life. It's never okay to try to guilt someone into eating something they don't want to eat, and that's exactly what she tried to do (it looked like the brother was stronger than that!)

I'm hoping that the show improves as the episodes go on.

Nola Celeste
05-31-2011, 05:19 PM
I wanted to like the show more than I did. I was enthusiastic about the concept--following a person for a whole year rather than just a crash-dieting, frantically exercising 3 to 6 months--only to find that it's the same tired stuff served up in an extended-play club mix.

Seriously, is there ever going to be a weight loss show that doesn't follow the format of:

- Show fat person crying about how fat she is
- Skip to meet-the-obnoxious-trainer portion
- Embarrassing weigh-in moment of truth
- Exercising
- Crying
-Exercising
- Crying
- Exercising
- Trainer being a ****-head and saying "You aren't trying hard enough!"
- Setback
- Crying
- Showing "bad" foods being thrown away
- The Big Reveal (after this word from our sponsors)

The only show that hasn't followed that formula to the letter was "Heavy," and that was only during the first portion of its run when it followed the folks at the Austin center. They at least had one month at the resort and five months to deal with real life; with these other shows, these folks have been living in a vacuum and focused solely on this one goal. It's unrealistic to how any of the rest of us can live.

When I watched this latest iteration of "You're Fat and We Can Help By Yelling at You" or whatever this sub-species is called, I couldn't help wondering how her finances handled the year's sabbatical she apparently took from teaching.

I can't say I didn't learn anything from it, though. I found it telling that she lost three pounds in three months despite working her butt off (or trying to) for hours every day because she did what 99.98% of us would do if we were exhausted from working out for hours every day and ate what was available instead of carefully pre-planned, prepared meals. Abs (and guts and thick thighs) are made in the kitchen, not the gym.

ANOther
05-31-2011, 06:17 PM
Although I have to admit, even the Extreme Makeover Home Edition has always bugged me. So often they create homes that are unmaintainable on the salaries of the homeowner. The people can't afford to fix their home, so EM comes in and creates a mansion for them - then the utilities and taxes are so high that the family has to sell the mansion they've fallen in love with in order to afford a home they can actually live in. Of course the viewing audience never sees that, so who cares?

I love EMHE, but at least for a while you had a point, they were building 5,000 sq ft mc-mansions for families that were just barely out of the housing project. I've heard that with the recession they've kind of scaled down on the sizes of their homes, and I understand it if they're building a house for someone with a disability or special medical needs that requires a little more room. I do wish TV shows would kind of scale-back on dream-house or dream-wedding or dream-anything and focus on "anythings" that are nice but more affordable

uwfan27
06-02-2011, 02:00 PM
Itís really interesting to read everyoneís comments and thoughts on the show. I hadnít read this thread before watching it and went in blindly. I found it be pretty inspirational, albeit pretty unrealistic for many when we are trying to balance weight loss with our everyday lives and families. They mentioned that she worked out 4-5 HOURS a day! She had been an elementary P.E. teacher but Iím curious if she kept her job during the 12 months of weight loss Ė they never really said. 4-5 hours of exercise a day is not even remotely a possibility for me. I feel good just fitting in 30 minutes to an hour 6x a week!!! :D

ButÖ it does let us know that weight loss IS possible if we just work hard at it. The trainer pushed her hard (maybe too hard?) but sometimes thatís what we need Ė a good kick in the booty to stay motivated. I wonder if they had a doctor monitoring her as she progressed to ensure she was losing weight safely. They didnít mention that either. It will be interesting to watch the next episode and see if any of these types of things are brought up.

caryesings
06-02-2011, 05:11 PM
I would suspect she did keep her job. She's a young woman living at home and I remember hearing family complain about working out early. So if she worked out an hour before work, then walked on her lunch hour and put in 2 hours in the evening, it could be done around the job.

I wouldn't want to do it, but when I wasn't in a relationship, I could have.