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Debelli
01-06-2003, 03:01 AM
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This is the
SUGAR BUSTERS WEEKLY SUPPORT BOARD where all of you who are following this WOE, or are thinking about doing so, are welcome to come join in and be a part of our wonderful group.

Other than finding support and friendship on this board, we also try to do something during the the week to add a little difference to our board.

MONDAY-MOTIVIATIONAL MONDAY
TUESDAY-TUESDAYS TIPS & FACTS & CHAT AT 9:15PM EST
WEDNESDAY-WEIGH-IN WEDNESDAY
THURSDAY-THURSDAY RECIPE DAY
FRIDAY-FRIDAY FUNNIES


Please take some time to check out our extensive recipe boards. Our RECIPE BOARDS can be located at the link below:

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We have SEVEN INFORMATIVE BOARDS!!!! Please take a few minutes to visit them! New information is continually being posted, so please make sure you visit them often!!! The boards are listed below as well as the link that will take you to the boards:

THE RECOMMENDED READING BOARD
THE TOOLS & TIPS BOARD
THE FOOD INFORMATION BOARD
MOTIVATIONAL & INSPIRING THOUGHTS BOARD
MY FAVORITE SB LEGAL FOODS
SB 2002 BIO BOARD
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Debelli
01-06-2003, 03:03 AM
GOOD MONDAY MORNING EVERYONE!

Will post my usual morning post sometime later, as you can see, I'm up in the middle of the night and can't sleep, but wanted to make sure I got our
MOTIVATIONAL MONDAY done early in the morning, so here's my contribution for MM, I think they are all good, and I hope you read them and in between the lines as well:)


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LEARN FROM IT

When the result is not what you expected, learn from it. When you get the result you want, learn from that too. Every experience is a wonderful opportunity to learn. Wisdom comes from learning the difficult lessons which experience teaches.

With wisdom comes respect, authority and effectiveness. You pay a hefty price for wisdom, and yet what you get is even more valuable than what you paid. It is indeed difficult to console yourself to "learning from this" when things fail to go your way. It is much easier to get angry, to get depressed, to complain or even to forget about the whole thing. But when you
do that, you end up paying the price without getting any value in return.

Whatever happens, let it increase your wisdom and, ultimately, your success. Whatever happens, get past the concerns of the moment and learn from it.

Copyright 2001 Ralph S. Marston

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THE BEST EVER

To make this new year the best year ever, start small. Start with one small moment, this one you now have, and put into it all your energy, your enthusiasm, your passion and commitment. Make full use of what you have right here and now, whatever it may be. Though it may not seem like much, this small moment can put you solidly on course for magnificent positive achievement.

To make this new year the best year ever, keep going. Though challenges and disappointments will certainly come your way, you do not have to go their way. At times you will know discouragement, yet there is no value in continuing to be discouraged. There is every reason to continue moving forward, no matter what, for that is the best response to every discouragement.

To make this new year the best year ever, take responsibility for it. Instead of making excuses or assigning blame, put your energy into focused, creative effort, into creating value, into living with purpose.

This new year can be the best year ever. Because it will be for you whatever you are willing to make it.

-- Ralph Marston
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Have a wonderful day, and a fabulous week!!!!!

Debbie
194/1??/129
SB since 3/22/00
Reached goal 6/10/01

Melf
01-06-2003, 07:27 AM
Good morning!
Hope everyone has a great OP day. I just got on the scale & $#^*&%! Well, who's fault is that?? Thought I was doing ok but.... Anyway, I'm off to work.

Yes, I'm the one that voted with 6, yes count them...6 people in my household. We're all praying that the weather will hold out & that the movers can get DDs double wide moved in by the end of the week. Wouldn't it be wonderful if I'd get back from my Fl trip & she & the boys were moved back home? It's been 3 months!

OK, I'll calm down now & go to work :wave:


gracious
01-06-2003, 07:58 AM
A new week and the kids are officially back in school. Things are getting back to normal with regards to my usual routine and I am a person who likes routine to keep things in order.

The junk food has dwindled down to a reasonable amount and all the tastiest stuff is gone so the temptation to eat it has been quenched. I have been exercising every day from Monday to Friday and taking the weekends off so I am looking for good things to happen on the scale.

Haven't really had a chance to read the boards thoroughly, only popped in here and there so I will start fresh with today. Hope everyone is recovering well from the holiday eating and getting re-focused. Just think....summer is coming and that means shorts and t-shirts and I want to be able to wear them, how about you?! I better get moving!

Ellen
01-06-2003, 08:51 AM
Morning! Hopped on the scale this morning, and I am down another pound. Only one left to be back to where I was hovering before the holidays!

I feel really tired this morning, but I have a ton of things to do. I have to get my fixed flat tire, get an alignment, take down the Christmas tree, and clean up the mess my daughter and her friend made in the kitchen. They were experimenting and made a chocolate cake. They swear they did not use a recipe, but it looks like it turned out really good. Perhaps a bit dry, but they ate some and liked it. I think they had a few other experiments that did not turn out well. Half of my carton of whipping cream was gone, along with a can of tart cherries. hmmm...

I spent a lot of time researching online last night about getting recertified to teach. I am thinking about going back, and noticed there are even openings for art teachers listed online in Georgia. Guess I will see what all is required and make a decision from there.


GRACIOUS: Good to see you back! I have missed you! Hope your Christmas was a wonderful celebration of the birth of our Savior!

Solly
01-06-2003, 09:35 AM
Happy Monday :wave:

It's going to be a long week. The first one in a while that contains no holidays.

I was so good over the weekend. Made it thru happy hour drinking only ice tea. Then to a bar and drank water. Sat went to 2 parties and drank diet coke and water. Eating was good. Except I think there was sugar in the bbq sauce at one party. But no cake or goodies.

The cupboard is getting bare. Won't be able to get to the grocery until this weekend. Hope we can hold out.

Well I have spent 1 1/2 hours reading all the posts from the weekend (boy was it busy) so I had better get some work done.

Trish, Yeah for you losing a pound thru the holidays. Those beans and sausage sound good. Think I'll try it.

TV, I'm with you. Don't know how I'm going to make it days this week. Great idea walking on your lunch hour. Two of the girls I work with exercise with me during our lunch hour 2-3 days a week. Glad you had a good time at disney. Hope yur DH's knee gets better. Men can be such big babies.

Sweetbeater, You didn't offend anyone. We are easy to get along with. Just trying to help you along. Nice on the job. If you are talking about frozen ww waffles watch out. They probably aren't really ww only enriched and they aren't legal.

Fillise, Glad your traveling is over. Sorry about your GA. Yes Auburn & Ga were the only SEC teams to hang in there. Thanks for the info on the new book.

Gator, It's usually in the 30's when I walk. I just bundle up. The only that gets cold are my cheeks. The say you burn more calories walking in the cold. I keep telling myself that anyway. There's no flour in your pancakes? Taking 1 day off is a good idea.

Cherylco, Welcome back. Glad you did so well over the holidays. I have the same problem with diet cokes telling the from the real ones.

Miata1, Good for you making it 2 days. The next ones will be even easier. I think Curves is a great idea. I don't want to spend a lot of time exercisng either. I think you can stick with it better doing it shorter times.

Toni, How's you're not eating after 7:30 doing. I was starvig last nite so I had some air popped popcorn. It is easier during the week for me than weekends.

Scooby2, 4 days OP good for you. :dance: Keep up the good work.

Mel, I was good over the weekend. How horrible about your ankle. Keep it propped up.

Monet, Those GI index really confuse me too. The wedding is May 9th. We are kicking it back into gear since the holidays are over. They bought a house over the weekend so now we have to deal with that too. I love kids. Can I borrow some of the diiretics. 6 lbs is awesome. My 2 cents on the Geo Foreman Grills. Get one that the plates come out so you can wash them in the sink or dishwasher. I hate cleaning the GF. I won't use mine they are so hard to clean. Glad there is only 1 lbs left. it will go soon. Good for you getting back into teaching. I admire teachers.

Sugarless, You are not alone in holiday eating. Just come on back to the wagon. It is hard to get back on track. Just another eason not to quit.

Heartmom, good for you being OP 2 days. It will get easier. Those 6 lbs will be gone before you know it. That SF candy can do it to you. Good idea on the exercising. Shame it doesn't come off where you want it too. :bravo: for you putting that candy back. I'm proud of you.

Mom2March, WTG on 2 days OP. Keep up the good work.

Yellow, Those ritas are hard to resist aren't they.

Sef, hope your ear is better.

VR, Welcome back. Sounds like you have a great plan. Good luck.

Bob, I'm sorry you won't make the trip. I know you are disappointed.

Melf, Sorry you are unhappy with the scale. Hope it gets better. That would be nice surprise to find your DD moved out. You will miss them though!

Gracious, I need routine too. I do so much better during the week. I can get my fruits and water in. Weekends just keep me out of kilter. Let's get going.

Deb, the MM was great today. I especially liked the learn something. If we cheat and gain, then we should learn that is what happens. When we lose we should look back and see what led us to that loss and learn to keep doing it. How is your GA? I feel for you now being the only walker in the marathon. Wish I could come down there and join you.

Have a great OP day everyone.

Jackie
257/167/145
10-10-01

Solly
01-06-2003, 10:05 AM
THE MONTH AFTER CHRISTMAS

'Twas the month after Christmas, and all through the house
Nothing would fit me, not even a blouse.
The cookies I'd nibbled, the eggnog I'd taste
All the holiday parties had gone to my waist.
When I got on the scales there arose such a number!
When I walked to the store (less a walk than a lumber).
I'd remember the marvelous meals I'd prepared;
The gravies and sauces and beef nicely rared,
The wine and the rum balls, the bread and the cheese
And the way I'd never said, "No thank you, please."
As I dressed myself in my husband's old shirt
And prepared once again to do battle with dirt--
I said to myself, as I only can "You can't spend a winter
disguised as a man!"

So, away with the last of the sour cream dip,
Get rid of the fruit cake, every cracker and chip
Every last bit of food that I like must be banished
'Till all the additional ounces have vanished.
I won't have a cookie, not even a lick.
I'll want only to chew on a long celery stick.
I won't have hot biscuits, or corn bread, or pie,
I'll munch on a carrot and quietly cry.
I'm hungry, I'm lonesome, and life is a bore---
But isn't that what January is for?
Unable to giggle, no longer a riot.
Happy New Year to all and to all a good diet!

Fillise
01-06-2003, 10:16 AM
Motivational tidbit!

In case you need another resaon for a low GI lifestyle, this is from the Jan. Prevention magazine:

"Two new studies suggest that eating a diet high in refined carbohydrates (which raise blood sugar and insulin levels) may put women at risk for two kinds of cancer, including one that's usually fatal. But there's also a new improved tool that may provide an easy and accurate way to choose the foods that will protect you from both.
Looking at data from the 18-year Nurses' Health Study, National Cancer Institute researchers found that sedentary, overweight women who ate diets high in added sugar and white flour (both refined carbohydrates) had a 53% increase of pancreatic cancer, which has a 5-year survival rate of only 4%.
The second study, which looked at the diets of more than 2,500 Italian women with breast cancer and an equal number who were cancer-free, found that the women with breast cancer ate more foods high in refined carbohydrates. Those kinds of foods, such as white bread and cookies, boost blood sugar and insulin levels while triggering a rise in the insulin-like growth hormones that are linked to breast cancer risk."

The tool to combat this in the Glycemic index and the improvement is the concept of glycemic load:

"The GI is a measurement of how fast and how high blood sugar and insulin rise after you eat enought of a food to total 50g of carbohydrates. By that measure, both white bread and carrotshave high GI numbers of 70 and 71 respectively, suggesting that they both send blood sugar soaring. In fact, that's only true if you eat more than a quart of carrots compared with just four slices of white bread. By contrast the GL measures the effect on blood sugar of a normal serving of food. By this standard, the GL for two slices of white bread turns out to be more than five times higher than the GL for 1/2 cup of carrots. Cancel the carrot warning!"

So if your motviation weakens, just think about the health benefits of getting the sugars and refiend flours out of our diets!

BOB--so sorry you cannot make the trip to Orlando. You aren't having much luck with travel plans are you???????

Jackie--WTG on resisting the drinks while you were out! hey--it's only four months until derby day!!!!!

Monet--Congrats on getting all but one pound of the holiday weight off! I actually lost weight over the holidays, but I put on a lot during the fall campaign so I am nowhere near my low. But the scale is finally going back down.

Gracious--The holidays are nice, but it is also good to get back into the routine.

Mel--good luck getting your house back!!!! But your DD is lucky to have had your support while recovering from the storm!

Deb--enjoyed the motivational posts this morning!

Off to a good start this morning:

1/2 grapefruit (no sweetner or, God forbid--sugar)
Coffee
1 slice of homemade WW bread with PB and SF cherry jam.

About 10:00 I'm going to have a SF yougurt.

Tuna fish and CARROTS for lunch.

My challenge--lets see if I can be really motivated and get my arse back to the gym!

Have a good Monday everyone!

Susan

BOBatwork
01-06-2003, 10:32 AM
Why Women are Cranky
> >
> > We start to "bud" in our blouses at 9 or 10 years
> > old only to find anything that comes in contact with those tender,
> > blooming buds hurts so bad it brings us to tears.
> >
> > Enter the almighty, uncomfortable training bra contraption the boys in
> > school will snap until we have calluses on our backs.
> >
> > Next, we get our periods in our early to mid-teens (or sooner). Along
> > with those budding boobs, we now bloat, we cramp, we get the hormone
> > crankies, have to wear little mattresses between our legs or insert
> > tubular, packed cotton rods in places we didn't even know we had.
> >
> > Our next little rite of passage (premarital or not) is having sex
> > for the first time which is about as much fun as having a ramrod
> > push your uterus through your nostrils (IF he did it right and
> > didn't end up with his little cart before his horse), leaving us to
> > wonder what all the fuss was about.
> >
> > Then it's off to Motherhood where we learn to live on dry crackers
> > and water for a few months so we don't spend the entire day
> > leaning over Brother John. Of course, amazing creatures that
> > we are (and we are), we learn to live with the growing little angels
> > inside us steadily kicking our innards night and day making us
> > wonder if we're having Rosemary's Baby. Our once flat bellies now
> > look like we swallowed a watermelon whole and we pee our pants every
> > time we sneeze.
> >
> > When the big moment arrives, the dam in our blessed Nether Regions will
> > invariably burst right in the middle of the mall and we'll waddle
> > with our big cartoon feet moaning in pain all the way to the ER.
> > Then it's huff and puff and beg to die while the OB says, "Please
> > stop screaming, Mrs. Hearmeroar. Calm down and push. Just one more
> > (or 10 ) good push," warranting a strong, well-deserved impulse to
> > punch the ******* (and hubby) square in the nose for making us cram
> > a wiggling, mushroom-headed 10lb. bowling ball through a keyhole.
> >
> > After that, it's time to raise those angels only to find that when all
> > that "cute" wears off, the beautiful little darlings morph into
> > walking, jabbering, wet, gooey, snot-blowing, life-sucking little
> > poop machines. The teen years. Need I say more?
> >
> > The kids are almost grown now and we women hit our voracious sexual
> > prime in our mid-30's to early 40's while hubby had it somewhere
> > around his 18th birthday (which just happens to be the reason all
> > that early hot man sex got you pregnant in the first place).
> >
> > Now we hit the grand finale: "The Menopause," the Grandmother of all
> > womanhood. It's either take the HRT and chance cancer in those now
> > seasoned "buds" or the aforementioned Nether Regions, or, sweat like
> > a hog in July, wash your sheets and pillowcases daily and bite the
> > head off anything that moves.
> >
> > Now, you ask WHY women seem to be more spiteful than men when men get
> > off so easy INCLUDING the icing on life's cake: Being able to pee in
> > the woods without soaking their socks...
> > Now I love being a woman but "Womanhood" would make the Great Ghandi a
> > tad crabby.
> >
> > Women are the "weaker sex."? Yeah right. BITE ME!!!!!
> >
> >

BOB

Tranquil
01-06-2003, 10:51 AM
Happy Monday - I am still walking around with this creeping crud in my lungs and sinuses - I am on my 3rd round of antibiotics! But, I will be in Orlando regardless - even if I have to be wheeled in a wheel chair....

This is my first day back to work, and I weighed despite the fact that I am SO SWOLLEN!!! and I am horrified that I have gained back just about every pound I had ever lost...though I know with exercise, stop taking all this medicine, and eating back on program again, I will drop it since a lot of it is water and infection...

Just call me a whiney walking germ....

So - just wanted to say Hello to everyone and that I am still here... I don't know how legal Egg Drop Soup is or how illegal it is - but it sure does make a body feel good when they are sick like this....

Sabrina

Toni48
01-06-2003, 11:14 AM
Good morning everyone. Wow the first of the week already. Hope I'm losing pounds. I sure have tried my best to stay OP. I watched Suzanne Sommers on the Today show. Her diet sounded very close to SB. She said the same things white flour, white rice, sugar...... Its so surpriseing how many people are finding that this is the best way to eat..

Debilli- good message today....

Melf- Wow you've really got a full house. I'll bet its hard to cook for everyone and stay OP. Hope you get your house back when you return from your exciteing trip. What a way to get some motivation...

Gracious- Glad you got your routine back and now is the time..... Yep spring is just around the corner and this is the time to start. We can do it gal....

Monet-Congrads on the pound. You're doing really well.... Hope you go ahead with your teaching...

Jack-K- Wow you had a great week-end. YOu really need to give yourself a pat in the back!!! You inspire me... Its working so far not eating till after 7:30. We'll see what the scale saids Wed.

Fillise- Way to go girl!! Your menu looks great. And I love to see peoples menu's. You can get to that gym!!! We can do this......

Bob- Love your Why Woman are Cranky... How ya doing?

Tranquil- Well you know lady that the sickness causes bloat so when you get over this nasty stuff you'll have a better weigh in. So sorry you've been so sick and hope you get well soon.

Okay got a busy day planned and need to walk on my treadmill. Have a great OP Monday....

213/171/130

Ellen
01-06-2003, 12:25 PM
FILLISE: I was lurking and saw your post...I had to laugh. If that article is from Prevention, they sure are eating crow now! About four years ago, I was on Atkins and they published an article that totally slammed The Zone, Atkins, and Protein Power, and then stated that the healthy diet was one that followed the food pyramid. They then put their diet plan out, and it was basically a pretty much vegetarian high carb/low fat diet- the same diet I gained weight on! It is nice to see the truth is finally coming out in all these new studies.

GatorGal
01-06-2003, 12:32 PM
Jack-K--Nope, no flour at all in the pancakes. Just those 3 Tablespoons of raw oats. I fix mine in a mini-food processor. When you whirl the ingredients, it chops the oats some, and that is the starch that holds them together. They are really good tasting, low GI and low cal. What more could you ask of a pancake?!

Fillise--Good luck getting to the gym to work out.

I got my 3 mile walk in this morning. I have a really busy week: two nights of classes and 1 night of a meeting. Then we have tickets to go to a symphony on Friday, and on Saturday off to Gainesville to watch the Gators play basketball against the UGa puppies. I’ve been hoping to do 2 walks each day, each 2 miles, which would give me a total of 4 miles daily. But with my busy schedule and being out almost every night this week, I’m relegated to one walk per day. I’m happy I got to do 3 miles this morning. Tomorrow I work at the women’s pregnancy care center and it will be tough getting in the 3 miles. Especially since it is supposed to be cold here in the early morning which makes it harder to get out there and walk.

Last night we went to our small group get together that we have every Sunday night. It is a study, friendship and prayer group. Everyone brings something to eat so we have a small potluck dinner. It always is predominantly no-no high GI foods. So, smart me fixed a great salad to take so I could have a nice meal and not feel deprived. Would you believe that we got half way there when I realized that I had forgotten to take my salad. So I had mainly fruit (thank goodness someone brought some) and some chicken breast, and a nibble of my rice casserole (low GI but high cal). I’ll have the salad for dinner tonight.

I answered the weekly poll as 2 people because it is my DH and I. However for several days this week we have our daughter staying with us. She is trying to quit smoking and is having a really rough time. Her hardest time is when she gets home from work until she goes to bed. She is alone and has some time on her hands so she fills it with smoking. So, she decided that if she stayed here for several days she might get over the hump of the cravings and could be successful for the long haul. So, we have 3 for this week. Hope that her plan works and she can ditch those coffin nails.

My motivational thought for Monday is aimed at anyone who believes in God. It probably won’t be motivational for anyone who doesn’t.
Here it is:
Make every act of eating an experience of worship. God is not just there on the day we attend a worship service. He is in every act we do every day we live. He cares about all the tiny details of our life, even how we handle food, and He does not want our love for Him to be supplanted by our love for food. Therefore, when we eat, make this time an act of worship to God by our attitude and how we eat.

Have a great day everyone!

miata1997
01-06-2003, 12:42 PM
Hi All. Just have a few minutes..have to make dh his 7 grain cereal that i get from the flour mill. Good tasteing stuff except one of the grains is guess what??? corn..I don't eat it...I eat either shreded wheat /bran or an egg with WW toast.

Day 3 went great..We went out late (12:00 am )last night for a snack. Jim forgot to eat so he had dinner, I had toast. It was Denny's so it prob wasn't real good WW toast but at the timeit tasted real good and it wasn't the usual green shake or pie alamode. Next time maybe I will bring my own toast to toast, and bring the apple/peanut thing..I can't wait to get me some natural peanut butter from Raleys!!! I love pb and promise not to eat the whole thing, just dab it on the apple..

Today starts day 4, have some good ideas of what I want to do...They have tri tip on sale at one of our stores, so i will go get one and have dh cut it up and we will have tri tip steakes and I will be able to freeze a few too.

I will everyone a wonderful Monday...

Kathy

Ellen
01-06-2003, 12:59 PM
MIATA: Ok, I give up...what is tri tip steak? I have honestly never heard of it! (is it the same as whole sirloin tip?)

YellowRose
01-06-2003, 01:02 PM
Hi Everyone,

I had a good weekend and am ready to start the week.

Melf: How did that scale thing happen to a nice lady like you? I have heard that stress can effect a person’s
weight.

Monet: WOW! You do sound like a very busy one today. Your spirits sound high and it makes me want to get
moving myself. What is the name of the HF Coop that you and your daughter go to? I pass through the Atlanta on
my way to NC and I might be able to get there sometime.

Jack-K: My goodness, you were very very good to attend the parties and have absolutely no alcohol. Good for you.
I bet you felt good about doing that as well as your body appreciated it also. I finally, after 3 days got that 1 1/2
pounds off from having the rita and chips. Have I learned my lesson? Well, for now. I get very innovative when
my groceries get low.

Tranquil: I am so happy to hear that you will still be coming to Orlando. I will be happy to push the wheelchair if
need be. I am sorry that you are feeling so poorly, though. Maybe we will be able to at least get your mind off the
pain for awhile.

Miata: Years age,I cut out the pieces for an Almish quilt. I put it away and now can’t find the picture or the
pattern. I suppose I should just make up a new design and get on with it.

HeartM: Many congrats for putting the candy back. What motivation was the turning point?

Mel: Ouch! Not only do you have tons of pain but the saddness. We will miss you. I wish there was some way
you could still make it to Orlando to join in on some of the non-race fun. I am still available for wheelchair duty.

Sef: Is your ear still improving? That stuff is no fun. Do you need to see a doctor? Just worried about you.

BOB: Bummer! I had really looked forward to meeting you in person. Maybe I can join up with you at Traveler’s
Rest some time to make up for it.

Sweetbeater: Gatorgal’s pancake recipe sounds great and I have a another recipe you might try. This recipe is for
Buttermilk Pancakes. 1 egg, 1 cup of SGWW Flour, 1 teaspoon Baking Powder, 1/2 teaspoon Baking soda, 1/2
teaspoon Salt, 1 Tablespoon Agave, 1 cup Buttermilk (I use the dry type and mix it with water) 1 Tablespoon
Canola Oil. I beat it all together with a wisk and drop it by 1/4 cup size onto a hot griddle. Let me know what you
think.

VR: I was so glad to see your post. Welcome.

Gatorgal: Your schedule does sound busy. That weekend you talked about is not this coming weeked is it? This is
the weekend of our get together, isn’t it. Am I confused. (As usual.) You are going to be with us aren't you?

I’m off to take care of the laundry.

Debelli
01-06-2003, 01:23 PM
Good Monday Afternoon Everyone:wave:

It's been a heck of a night last night. I got a half-hour sleep. If anyone noticed what time I started the boards, you'll see I was bright-eyed and bushy tailed (unfortunately) at 3:00am. I don't know why, I was tired, or so I thought. I went back to bed, but couldn't fall asleep til it was just about time to wake up. Needless to say, I'm exhausted and didn't get in my walk.

Also, I have to confess, my eating has been for :censored: Lots of excuses, none of them good. Too much going on and no other way to find a release except with the food - what can I say :shrug: I'm weak! I thought I'd be able to get back on track today, :nono: didn't happen. Will be tomorrow though - I just have to.

My Aunt is still alive, though many keep giving their speculations. I took the kids to see her yesterday, to say their last goodbyes. With school and everything else it will be hard to take them to see her today. From what my Uncle said yesterday, well, he didn't think she'd make it the next 24 hours, but has gone beyond that at this point. He's a Internist and looked at her eyes and said it was very near. They said they are extremely yellow. At this point, I hope she goes quickly.

Of course, I'm bummed about MEL & BOB!

I've put things off that have to be done, not only with cleaning and other things in the house, but with getting ready to get the gals on Thursday and leave Friday. I have to get on the ball because everything will start happening before I can turn around in a circle!:eek:

Gotta run, wish it was literally, but do have some stuff I need to get done. I hope you understand if I can't reply to everyone right at this time. When I could yesterday, Michael was on the computer from the second we got home from seeing my Aunt til 2am this morning. He is studying for finals this week and between him and Lauren needing the computer my time on it is almost nil. I will try and get on here to post as I can, but I hope you all understand!!!

ORLANDO BOUND GALS I will be e-mailing you all later on today, so do check your e-mails!!!:D

{{{HUGS}}} to you all:grouphug:

Debbie

GatorGal
01-06-2003, 01:30 PM
YellowRose--I will be with y'all on Friday for as long as you want me. But I won't be there Saturday. Several months ago we had invited some friends to attend a football game with us in Gainesville, including spending the weekend in a cute B & B, a lovely tailgate luncheon, game tickets, etc. But my DH's aunt died unexpectedly and we attended her funeral instead. Since we cancelled the weekend for our friends, we are replacing it with a one day trip to watch a basketball game, with lunch and dinner. No overnight stay. This is one of the two home games on a Saturday that we can attend, so this was pretty much when we decided a while back to go. Sorry I'll miss the activities on Saturday, but I will have fun with everyone on Friday. Sorry that Big Orange Babe and Mel can't come. We will be leaving here about 10 am. and the challenge for me will be to get my walking in and be ready on time to leave, since we won't be back home until about 9 pm.
Mel, I'll help Yellow push the wheelchair on Friday if there is any way you can come.

YellowRose
01-06-2003, 01:41 PM
Hi,

Gator: Whew! I was afraid we wouldn't get to see you at all. Stay with us as long as you can. Will we get to see you at all Sun? I know, I am being pushy.:lol: :lol: :^:

miata1997
01-06-2003, 01:53 PM
Hi Monet....I don't know what part of the cow the tri tip is, but it usally comes in a roast, and you trim itup and cut it into steaks..It is the best best best tasting steak in the world. Esp if you take the time to merinade it. Sometimes it is expensive and sometimes it is 1.99 for an untrimmed roast.....And all you got to do is trim itup and cut and freeze..It is also a great bbq meat, oh my gosh it is my absolute favorite!!!

Try to find it, you will like it..

Kathy

Mom2Marsh
01-06-2003, 02:19 PM
Melf- Hope the move goes smoothly. Three months can be a VERY long time to have extra people around!

Gracious- I’m with you on liking things in a routine. Preschool doesn’t start back until Wednesday, so it’s been interesting at our house. Just one more day!

Monet- WTG on that pound! Feels so good when the numbers head south!

Sweetbeater- My friend just told me that Kashi now has out a frozen blueberry waffles that are legal! She found them at the health food store, I haven’t tried them yet, but she says they are delicious!

Fillise- Thanks for sharing the Prevention article. Good to keep in mind!

Toni- So true about everyone “jumping on the bandwagon” (although some of have been falling off it lately). I read Marilu Henner’s book a while back and it was a lot of the same things also. Although she also preaches giving up dairy…sorry isn’t going to happen for me!

GatorGal- WTG on the party-eating. That’s when I have the hardest time. Don’t envy your daughter at all. I went through that about 3 years ago. I haven’t had a cigarette since, but I still occasionally crave one! Also, thanks for that Motivational thought. I’ve really been focusing on the fact that my body is a temple of God. I wouldn’t throw a whole bunch of garbage on the floor and pews at my church, so why should I do that with the temple I carry around all the time. It’s so true that we must strive to make each moment of our days an act of worship. Really helps keep your attitude in check too!

Well, I survived the weekend. Went off plan at my Grandmother's yesterday for lunch, but actually got back on for dinner last night. That is a huge feat for me. Usually if I cheat once, it's a couple of days before I'm doing well again.

Doing well so far today. Just had some Triscuits to save myself from attacking our music minister's chocolates he left on his desk. I even managed to get in a 30 minute walk on my lunch break.

--Kat

maemae
01-06-2003, 02:22 PM
Good afternoon to all.............Well I just started today on SB and so far so good......For breakfast ate eggs with cheese and for lunch I ate a hamburger with cheese and chili (only 1 slice of the bun) Hope I am doing this right.........There is 1 place here in Houston that follows the SB diet ........Really looking forward to seeing the pounds go BYEBYe........Take Care

LKF
01-06-2003, 02:30 PM
Hey, everyone, and Happy New Year! I only have a minute but wanted to say hello to all of you and to see how everyone is doing. It has been several weeks since I have even been able to get on the Board and though I continue to miss all of you (and I haven't even met some of you newcomers...WELCOME!), I continue to be unable to spend time with you like I used to. Maybe some day soon.

Meanwhile, I am glad to see that some of you managed to make it through the Holidays without gaining! Me, too! As of 1/1/03, I had lost 43 pounds since 8/1/02. My weight loss slowed during the Holidays but it wasn't because I ate off program...I guess I am just at a plateau. But I was glad to keep losing. Congratulations to all who managed. We're on the other side now and doesn't it feel good to be here and the shape we are becoming?!

Take care and I'll check back in periodically when I can.

Love to you all!

CountryMom4Him
01-06-2003, 02:52 PM
Man oh man...Have I been OP or what . :) To the point of punishement..LOL I've cut way back...too far but some of the pounds are coming off and I'll take it for now. I've never really kept an accurate food diary before. But I have been faithful at fitday since Jan 1. That was my goal for this year. It's good and bad seeing what I'm eating. My fat is too high and my protein is too low. But I don't see that changing any time soon. I add about 200 calories in my head at the end of each day to account for any errors or forgotten bites.

Welcome MaeMae! Houston isn't too too far from me. I'm up near Lake Livingston. You'll love this WOE. It's the best.

Tranquil.....(((HUGZZZ))) sorry you are still ill sweetie. Praying.

Gator...thanks for the MM it really hits home and helps.

Mel and Bob...sorry ya'll can't make the trip. Hope the ankle heals quickly Mel. And you mom is feeling better soon also Bob.

LKF...WTG woman! You are doing sooooooo good.

Deb....sorry you didn't get much rest last night. You have a lot on your mind right now. (((hugzz)))

Hey Toni! I was reading your weight loss. You are doing so good.

Gracious...howdy stranger. I bet it today was nice with the kids back in school. Wish mine were in school today..LOL They are realling testing me in the school area lately. My little one finished his assignments early so that was a blessing.

I was gonna try to touch base with all of ya'll but I have salsa cooking on the stove and I need to tend to it. Have a blessed and awesome day.

Love,
Crystle

Toni48
01-06-2003, 03:16 PM
LKF- Great to see you posting and congrads on you doing so good durning the holidays. I'm sure you'll move off that plateau soon.

CountryMom- I think I did horrible from Nov. till the end of Dec. with a good 8 lb. gain. So you just jump on this wagon with me we can do it. Just one hour, one day, one week at a time....

Maemae- Welcome aboard our little group. Its a good one with lots of support. It just takes a bit to get the hang of it. Do you have the Sugar Buster book?

Mom2Marsh- Hang in there gal you can do it. Everyday will make you stronger, but those first couple of weeks are the hardest I think.

Miata- A howdy to you...

Yellowrose-The pancake recipe sounds sooo good. I'll have to try it.. Thanks for posting.

Debilli-You've got so much on your plate now. Its good you could come on and let us know how its going. Your Aunt is still in my prayers...

GatorGal-Sounds like you have a full week-end planned. Its great you can do both things. Have a blast...

Time to run but didn't want to get behind...

sef
01-06-2003, 03:51 PM
HiedieHo All!!

Nothing exciting! Went to NH and to church to make some copies for HFH, then came home and did some more HFH paperwork. I'm done now and thought I'd check in.

I have been really good and OP, clothes are feeling a little looser!

JACKK: Isn't MLK day in January and a holiday? I hate to get behind on the board, takes so long to catch up, then I miss things cause I'm skimming trying to save time.....vicious circle.

TRAQUIL: Hope you feel better for the trip. Egg Drop is legal.

YELLOW: Thank you. I don't go to doctor for every ache and pain, just do my old fashioned home remedies that usually work. If I go to doc I am REALLY sick. Ear is feeling better.

MAE: Welcome! Try your library for the SB it will give ou more of an idea of what to eat and not eat.

For MM:

1. I love you not because of who you are, but because of who I am when I am with you.

2. No man or woman is worth your tears, and the one who is, won't make you cry.

3. Just because someone doesn't love you the way you want them to, doesn't mean they don't love you with all they have.

4. A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart.

5. The worst way to miss someone is to be sitting right beside them knowing you can't have them.

6. Never frown, even when you are sad, because you never know who is falling in love with your smile.

7. To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world.

8. Don't waste your time on a man/woman, who isn't willing to waste their time on you.

9. Maybe God wants us to meet a few wrong people before meeting the right one, so that when we finally meet the person, we will know how to be grateful.

10. Don't cry because it is over, smile because it happened.

11. There's always going to be people that hurt you so what you have to do is keep on trusting and just be more careful about who you trust next time around.

12. Make yourself a better person and know who you are before you try and know someone else and expect them to know you.

13. Don't try so hard, the best things come when you least expect them to.

REMEMBER: WHATEVER HAPPENS, HAPPENS FOR A REASON.

True friends: How many people actually have 8 true friends? Hardly anyone I know ! But some of us have all right friends and good friends!!!

and:

A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE

...one old love she can imagine going back to...and one who reminds her how far she has come...

A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE...enough money within her control to move out and rent a place of her own even if she never wants to or needs to...

A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE....something perfect to wear if the employer or date of her dreams wants to see her in an hour...

A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE....a youth she's content to leave behind...

A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE...a past juicy enough that she's looking forward to retelling it in her old age...

A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE...a set of screwdrivers, a cordless drill, and a black lace bra...

A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE....one friend who always makes her laugh... and one who lets her cry...

A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE....a good piece of furniture not previously owned by anyone else in her family...

A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE...eight matching plates, wine glasses with stems, and a recipe for a meal that will make her guests feel honored..

A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE......a feeling of control over her destiny...

EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW.....how to fall in love without losing herself...

EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW.....how to quit a job, break up with a lover, and confront a friend without ruining the friendship...

EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW.....when to try harder... and when to walk away...

EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW......that she can't change the length of her calves, the width of her hips, or the nature of her parents...

EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW......that her childhood may not have been perfect...but its over...

EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW......what she would and wouldn't do for love or more...

EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW.....how to live alone... even if she doesn't like it...

EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW......whom she can trust, whom she can't, and why she shouldn't take it personally...

EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW......where to go...be it to her best friend's kitchen table...or a charming inn in the woods...when her soul needs soothing...

EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW.....what she can and can't
accomplish in a day...a monjth...and a year...

My MMs are not always weight related but I hope food for thought!

Shirley

VR
01-06-2003, 03:55 PM
:( Just lost my reply.... I think! So if this shows up twice, please disregard..

Good Morning/Afternoon from the WestCoast!

Quick check-in to let you know I'm so glad to be back on board. Wow, I'm so impressed with the "big losers" - really gives me hope.

The NIGHTS are soooo long when you try not to eat after 7pm..

Gave in Saturday nite around midnight.. I guess it could have been a very eary Sunday breakfast... not!

Sunday night I only made it until 9pm and gave in to a few green olives and wonderful sugar plum tomatoes (grape size) from Trader Joes.

All legal stuff but I'm so weak!! I'll just keep trying one day at a time. I may have to start going to bed at 8p... ha, ha!

Just had an eggsalad sandwich w/o bread .... lettuce wraps!
Thank God for lettuce...
and all the other wonderful things that we "can" eat.

Thank you for the welcome back... it'll take me a while to get back in the swing of things.

Gotta get back to work...

You are all in my thoughts!!

Trishaloo
01-06-2003, 03:57 PM
but I wanted to get a post in while I had the chance. We've been having major computer problems here at the office and of course everyone else instantly becomes computer illiterate when something is going wrong. Spent all morning dealing with that but things are back on track now.

So sorry to hear that Mel and BOB aren't going to make the trip. We'll definitely be thinking about ya, though.

Gotta run but wanted to pop in and say hi to everyone.

Trish

Fillise
01-06-2003, 04:03 PM
Looks like it is shaping up to be another busy week on the board!
I thought I'd check in again before we get bombarded with posts!

Country--how do you make your salsa?

LKF-WTG on getting through the holidays with a losing attitude! Good to have you back on the board.

Maemae--Welcome! Glad you found us and have started off the new year with a healthy way of eating. On this board we offer advice and help each other out--and also become good friends--so we talk about all life's issues! Your menu so far looks good, though it the bun wasn't whole wheat/no sugar then even 1/2 is a no no. Don't let it get you down, but you really do need to be a vigilant about the white flour as you do the sugar! If you live in a place that is lucky enough to have the Nature's Own Stone Ground Whole Wheat Sugar Free Hamburger buns, then those a legal and you cab actually eat the whole bun! You have to read those bread labels carefully because a lot of bread that claims to be whole wheat is made with enriched flour if you look on the ingredients list--enriched flour is bad. It needs to say whole wheat or stone ground whole wheat when listing the ingredients. Most of us found that when we started this WOE we spent an awful lot of time reading labels--but after a few weeks, you learn what is ok and what isn't and it becomes second nature. Good Luck!

Mom2marsh--Welcome! The bandwagon is quite full now--which is great! Glad you are doing so well.

Miata--I'm going to look for a tri tip roast!

Deb--The week will pass before you know it--get busy!:lol: I know it is hard with all the uncertainty about your aunt. I hope she doesn't linger and suffer. I'm thinking about you.

Ok back to work.

Susan

heartmom
01-06-2003, 04:35 PM
Don't know if this will work or not since it was sent to me in email- and the pic is a little distorted- it appears that I have squinty eyes and buck teeth,lol- but you can see the mud.

heartmom
01-06-2003, 04:38 PM
Nope didn't work

DEB- if I sent it to you- could you be able to post it?

Solly
01-06-2003, 04:45 PM
Good afternoon gang!

Day 1 is almost under our belt. I have a pot of veg soup in the crock pot. Hope it turns out. I know of 2 kids that will be turning up their noses. DH will eat anything and I'm not much on homemade veg soup. Give me a can of Campbell's any day. I'm not much of a cook when it comes to soup. Oh well. It will be dinner.

Hope to get my walk in tonite. It was sleeting here earlier. Maybe I will try the walk off the pounds tape in stead. Will definately get my workout in though.

Fillise, Very interesting article. Seems like more and more people are coming around to our way of thinking. You had to remind me that Derby is only 4 months away. :yikes: much to do before then. Get to the gym.

Bob, as always, you make me laugh.

Tranquil, Girl do you need a exorcism? You need something. Hope you feel better by Friday. Those pounds will be gone before you know it.

Toni, With being so good I'm sure that scale will be kind to you come WIW. SS diet has too much thinking involved with combining those foods. SB is much easier. But everybody is starting to think our way.

Gator, your walking plan is great, but sometimes not just possible. Be happy with getting to walk just once a day if it comes to that. That is much better than nothing. Take one day for rest too. Fuuny that you forgotyour salad. Oh well, now you have something for supper. Good luck to your DD on quitting smoking. I have several friends who I wish would quit also.

Miata, Jiff makes a peanut butter low in sugar called Simply Jiff. It has 2 or 3 grams of sugar which is legal. It doesn't have all that oil that the natural ones do. Plus you can ususally find it at the regular store.

Yellow, GLad those margarita pounds are gone. It is hard to resist them. But I'm trying.

Deb, I know you will be back on track tomorrow. Heck you have to get back on track before all the girls get there. We can't have you corrupting everyone. It is quite understandable from what you are going through. Eating is not a top priority. I hope things with you aunt finalize soon so you can enjoy your trip with the girls.

Mom2March, Good for you. You jumped right back on track. That is wonderful. I'm like you, my cheats would last for days, weeks, months, a year. That is the hardest part.

MaeMae, Welcome to our board. We have a great group of gals & 1 guy. You will get all kinds of support and help here. Good luck.

LKF, So good to hear from you. I have missed your upbeat posts. Great job on losing the 43 lbs. You are doing awesome. Keep up the good work and get back as much as you can.

Country, good for you doing fitday everyday. I just can't seem to find the time to do it.

Sef, MLK is the 20th. The schools and gov is closed, but not our office. Not too many businesses are. Glad your clothes are getting loser. Thanks for the MM. Sometimes our minds and hearts need motivating too.

VR, try a cup of flavored tea after 7:30. That will fill in the gap. Try to find something to do, read, clean exercise, etc. That will take your mind off of it. The things you ate were at least good things. You are doing great.

Trish, Hi, Did you have to solve those computer problems. Wow!

Have a great OP night everyone. Talk to ya tomorrow.

Jackie
257/167/145
10-10-01

heartmom
01-06-2003, 04:58 PM
The sweet potatoes didn't show on the scale(thank goodness). I'm at 215 this morning- just 3 more pounds to go!!!!!!!!! My personal motivation is realizing that I've gone to far(was 270) to put it back on. It's just not worth it. This may sound stupid, but earlier I was thinking about how it would feel to step on the scale one day and it said 199- I started to get teary-eyed. I know I have to do this- I will never be happy with myself until I do.

YellowRose
01-06-2003, 05:14 PM
MaeMae: Welcome: Yeah, another Texan. What place in Houston is following the SB way of eating? My
daughter lives near Houston and I get down that way from time to time. It looks like you have a good start (if the
bun was WW) but I think you need to add some legal fruits and veggies to your plan like zucchini, cauliflower,
broccoli, etc. Anyone else have ideas?

LKF: WOW! 43 pounds since August. It does make me wonder how it could have been for me if I had been as
diligent as you have been these past months. I am glad the New Year has begun and can look forward to a brand
new start. I haven’t lost over this year but since I got busy after Christmas, I have stayed the same overall.

CountryM: Interesting, my journaling shows too little protein and too much fat. I bet it is still that cheese (50%
Cabot’s) and almonds. (I am weighing them out now and staying to 1 oz.)

Deb: Maybe we will put you into the Detox Dungeon when we get there. Between the three of us, I bet we can push
you in there. I know you are under a lot of stress just now but I hope we can help when we arrive.

Sef: I am happy to hear that your ear problem is better. Wednesday, I go to the doctor to see about my collar bone.
I thought I would go after I returned from Florida but it has been four weeks, so, I thought I would see what is
happening with it.

Heartmom: 199 is not that far away and we will all be cheering and doing the happy dance for you as you
progress.

My dryer is calling my name again. It is nice to be able to get some work done but keep caught up on the board
today.

THE BIG ORANGE BABE
01-06-2003, 07:14 PM
EVENING EVERY BUDDY!!! Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr FROM THE COLD WEST SIDE OF FLA!!!

Temp is supposed to hit 32 degrees tonight :eek: The heat is
going now and it's toasty. These "native Floridians" had on their wool today, and me without even a sweater!

MONET....KROGER will have tri-tip and if you don't see it, ask the butcher to cut you one. I've never fixed it, but I know a lot of people who do..
Sorry we won't get together this round, but I guess I'll just have to stop on my way up I-85 on one of my trips to Greenville.

{{{{{{{{{{WELCOME TO ALL WHO ARE NEW}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Y'all will like it around here...we're not your "usual" FORUM...we get into everything!

This is a quick one...I'm in the middle of something..I'll check in later.

BOB

Ellen
01-06-2003, 08:17 PM
BOB: I will mosey into Kroger or Publix and ask the butcher there what it is. I asked my son in law, the chef, who fancies himself very knowledgable about beef and cuts of beef, and he figured it was what we call sirloin tip, tho he said there was two other places where three muscles come together, and perhaps that is what it was. From that he launched into trying to sell me on sharing some very reasonable prime beef he can get through work... yum!

VR
01-06-2003, 08:56 PM
Hi Monet..

The Tri-Tip is a cut that a butcher in Santa Maria, CA came up with a long time ago. That's where I was born and raised. Home of the world famous "Santa Maria Style Bar-B-Ques".. It has slowly spread to other parts of the states but has always been a staple more on the Central Coast of Calif...
It will puff up when bar-b-qued (as a roast) and the juices stay nicely inside.. Slice and serve with salsa... wonderful on top! Normally you would have toasted garlic bread, beans and salad..

You can also buy or slice for tri-tip steaks. Prices vary... but it used to be very inexpensive. Costco has both the roasts and steaks...

My husband would be glad to cook one up for you.. Let me know if you find them there.

found this description in a reprint of a1994 article in a Santa Barbara newspaper .."Tri-Tip, the backbone of barbecue.. Sirloins used to be cut with the bone in, and the tri-tip - two per animal, nestled in the sirloin region of the hindquarters - was overlooked as a prized cut. When stores went to boxed beef, tri-tips, which officially go by the name of bottom sirloin, grew popular here, starting about 25 years ago."

This might help you find them!

lindarn
01-06-2003, 09:12 PM
Hi everyone .....newbie here with a couple of dumb questions:

1) Is Stone Ground Whole Wheat Flour the same as the Whole grain pastry flour??? I noticed that some recipes call for the SGWW and some call for the pastry flour...Can you sub one for the other? Does it matter?

2) In some recipes, honey was listed.....is this considered legal? Can we use it instead of the agave if we can't find it locally?

3) Is it ok to use splenda instead of the fructose or stevia?

4) Are all Kashi brand cereals legal? or just some of them?

5) Canned fruit legal? or too much added sugar?

I'm sure I'll think of some more later, but thanks in advance for your help....glad to be a part of this wonderful forum....

Lin....

Mom2Marsh
01-06-2003, 10:10 PM
I'll do my best to answer from what I know. Just remember there is no such thing as a dumb question!

Others on here should be able to expound more: (answers in italics)


1) Is Stone Ground Whole Wheat Flour the same as the Whole grain pastry flour??? I noticed that some recipes call for the SGWW and some call for the pastry flour...Can you sub one for the other? Does it matter?
Pastry flour is ground finer than sgww flour. Using sgww flour when pastry flour is called for can weigh down a recipie

2) In some recipes, honey was listed.....is this considered legal? Can we use it instead of the agave if we can't find it locally?
Honey is a no-no. Someone else maybe able to recommend another substitute, but as far as I know no honey or very small quantities of it.

3) Is it ok to use splenda instead of the fructose or stevia?
Gotta leave that to someone else. I do my best to avoid using these sweetners (in fact I don't think I even have any at home.

4) Are all Kashi brand cereals legal? or just some of them?
Only some Kashi cereals are legal. You have to check how any grams of sugar it contains. Also check the ingredients list. A lot of them are honey sweetened.

5) Canned fruit legal? or too much added sugar?
Canned fruit with pear juice concentrate is legal, but Lite syrup and heavy syrup aren't. Be careful though, I've found that the pear juice is very sweet and can trigger massive sweets cravings for me.


Hope that helps some. Need the others to fill in the holes, but it's a start.

--Kat

GatorGal
01-06-2003, 10:40 PM
Yellowrose--I’m not sure about Sunday right now. Last year my DH and I drove out there to meet up with everyone and never could make contact. The cell phone thing got all mixed up so that didn’t work out. There was a HUGE mob of people there and we ended up just walking around for about 40 minutes in the pouring rain looking for the group, but we never found them. It was a wild goose chase for us and we could have done what we normally do on Sunday morning instead. I was feeling that it would have worked if I had stayed in the hotel and gone out with the group, but it was difficult otherwise. So, don’t know right now. Depends on the weather and how late we get back on Saturday night.

BOB--I'm shivering right along with you. Brrr. This weather is too cold for me. It will be in the 30's tomorrow morning and AI was hoping to get in a 1.5 mile walk before I left for work. Might have to find time before dinner to get in the exercise. Hopefully it will be warmer by then.

Gotta go. Have French to study, along with a few other things to do.

acw
01-07-2003, 03:25 AM
Hi. would love to join in! I'm a new chick and only found out about sugarbusters here and have got hold of a copy from the library and am reading it with great determination in mind. I have pcos and after being told by my doctor to go the low gi way was pleased to have discovered sugarbusters.

At present I am trying to get to grips with the basics and struggling a little because I'm in New Zealand and trying to find the right products is proving a little difficult. Are there any other Kiwi's out there doing sugarbusters?

I come from a ww background and still think in terms of so many fruits, so many vege, protein etc. Can anyone give me a rough guide or comparison if there is any? I have a lot of weight to lose and am conscious that I need to eat enough to stop me being hungry and picking.

I'm looking forward to getting to know you all.

Anna

miata1997
01-07-2003, 04:04 AM
Hi Anna..I just started SB 4 days ago..I think you will like this way of eating..Just get off sugar and stop eating the stuff they say not to eat. You know, the corn, white flour, beets, white rice, etc. just don't eat any...You can worry bout amounts later, at least that is what they told me..and youk now what????? they were not lying..These sb's are nice people who give info with grace and love..i am really impressed.

I just wanted to tell you how wonderful I feel. I feel like I could move a mountain. I am not hungry, my mind is not thinking about food, and it has only been 4 days..count them ..4 days..!!! I am going to do something strange tomorrow though, It is something I never thought I would do. I have a freind who I see only occasionaly when she visits her sil who is my next door neigh...and everytime I see her I think to my self, this is a nice gal who I wish I could get to know better. I don't have that many good friends, it is kinda hard when you work the hours I do. I do have some quilting friends but they are not people who I hang out with (youknow like go to house, have coffee) maybe some day, but not how... I also work weekends and my dh likes me home with him when I have my days off, so that makes it hard too. Anyway to make a long story a little shorter, she invited me to go to Tops with her, and to start walking with her. I am going to go. She said she could use the company casue most of the people there are older, and I decided I would go..It will be a good place to weigh in...So I will tell you how it goes tomorrow.

VR.; Thanks for the info on the tri tip...I didn't know anything about it besides it is the best meat I have ever eaten.

Jack-k..I was wondering about the peanut butter thing..Have you ever seen the peanut butter machine that have that just grinds the peanuts kinda like a coffee bean ? You can see the whole peanuts, and you turn it on and peanut butter come out, There is no oil that collects on the top so do you think this ok??? There is not salt taste, no added sugar, just crushed peanuts...

Well I had better get to bed..

See ya

Kathy

sweetbeater
01-07-2003, 08:58 AM
Okay you guys, I am frantically looking for the info that came with my scale cause I swear it MUST be off. It says I am down to 159 from my original 170 on the 26th of December. I think my scale went bonkers.

I am going to try those pancakes no matter how weird they sound.

Have a great day all. Did anyone reply as to how many frozen cherries I can eat?

Solly
01-07-2003, 09:00 AM
Happy Tuesday Morning :wave:

Everyone must be sleeping in today.

Well my veggie soup turned out great. Everyone loved it (that's a first) and we ate every bite. I was hoping to have some left to bring for lunch today. Today I have beans soaking and will try bean soup for tomorrow nite's dinner. I really miss putting potatoes in it though. You can tell my cupboard is bare when I'm making soup twice a week. Tonite we are having bratwurst.

Got my 3 mile walk in last nite. You Florida gals are complaining of the cold there, it was 32 when we walked. I never warmed up. My face was frozen. Then we got our workout in after that.

Heartmom, You will see that 199 before you know it. Just keep that goal in mind the next time you are tempted to eat off plan. You have to decide what is more important. You can do it. I know you can.

Yellow you have done a good job your of losing wt. Look how far you have come. Now we just need to buckle down and get to that goal. We can do it. We just need to put our mind to it.

Lindarn, Welcome to our group. Ask any questions you may have. It looks like you got answers to your first ones. Look forward to getting to know you.

ACW, welcome aboard. SB is much better than ww. Here you onlyhave to count to 3 (3 starchy carbs that is). This board is you weekly meeting but you can "meet" all day everyday if you like. We post our weight on Wed (WIW). So you have everything you need. I have done ww many times, been at goal twice. Gained every bit back and more. Never learned to change my eating habits. With SB everything has changed. I am very conscience of what I eat now. Ask any questions, someone will be glad to help you.

Miata, I think joining TOPS is a great idea. And walking with a friend will make you do it more too. Good for you. You are really taking control. Fresh ground peanut butter should be fine too.


Got to get busy here. Check back later.

Jackie
257/167/145
10-10-01

Ellen
01-07-2003, 09:52 AM
Well, the cellphone bill came yesterday. The sixteen year old is not speaking to me. She is not going to be speaking to anyone for a while on that cellphone. I am suspending the account. She went over $40 this month. That is a lot better than the $120 last month, but not good enough. I told her very gently that she needs to give the regular phone number to her friends. Every single one of them calls her on the cellphone first! She just doesn't get it. I told my husband, the cellphone I gave her was for MY convenience...not for her to talk on late at night so I wouldn't know, or for her to have all her friends call her on.
She doesn't have the money to pay the bill, so she forfeits the phone. She argued that she needed it to call home for a ride after school. I guess I will give her a $10 roll of quarters each month to call home with. If she spends them, she can walk! (yes, Monet is feeling mean this morning!)

Last night for dinner, I made a beef stir fry with lots of veggies and lots of ginger. I served it on a bed of cellophane noodles, that are very low GI, and it was really good. I used to thicken the sauce with cornstarch, but I have been removing the veggies and meat, leaving the broth, and then quickly reducing it, and pouring it over the dish. This seems to be working well, and then you don't need a thickener. Tonight, I am going to experiment with the French green lentils my hubby got for me. They are very tiny...more like seeds. Not sure what I will do with them, but I hope they are good!



MIATA: Fresh ground peanut butter is fine. So is the stuff you see in jars at the store called natural that has oil on the top. Peanuts are naturally oily, and that oil is only the separation. You stir it back in. The jar of natural peanut butter I get has only two ingredients...peanuts and salt. I know there are brands out there that have no sugar, but watch out for hydrogenated oils. That is what makes Jiff creamy, but it is as bad for you as sugar.

VR: Thanks for the description of the tri-tip. I will show that to Mr. Knowitall, the chef, and see what he says. (don't get me wrong..I love this guy! He just cracks me up because he HAS to act like he knows everything. I guess its a guy thing.)

ACW: Welcome! I am sure you can find everything you need down there! SB is really easy to follow. Stick with fresh fruits and veggies, and whole grains. Read the labels. Can you get triscuits? They are fine. If you can't find them, just use dried beans, lentils, and whole grains. The extra products are fun, but not necessary. You may want to read Michel Montignac's book, Eat Yourself Slim. He has a lot of good info and ideas in it. He is often called the father of SugarBusters.

LINDARN: Welcome! As someone said, the only dumb question is one that is not asked! ;) Let me add a bit. The difference between pastry flour and stone ground can also be the type of wheat used. Pastry flour is made from a soft wheat, and is not as strong in gluten. It works well for items that do not need the structure as much. Breads work best with the hard winter wheat, with a higher gluten content. Things like biscuits, and pie crusts do best with pastry flour. Make sure you read labels. Canned fruit is often in syrup and if sugar is an ingredient, you don't want it. It is probably better to stick with fresh fruits anyway. The vitamin and fiber content is better. They are also more satisfying. Honey is fructose, but something about it raises insulin levels more than pure fructose. Michel Montignac says in his book it is best to just break the sweet habit, and not feed it with artificial sweetners. There is some question on whether your brain decides to release insulin just from the taste of sweetness alone. I kind of wonder about that. I do much better without artificial sweetners. Less cravings, and I am beginning to suspect better weight loss.

SWEET: I sure hope your scale is fine! I can drop 10 pounds in a week if it is mostly water. I got my fingers crossed it is true!

JACK: I love soup! I think eating only chicken noodle soup (Campbells of course) for several days when I was sick with mono helped me to drop the 12 pounds I lost that weekend I was in the hospital...

maemae
01-07-2003, 10:05 AM
Good morning to all and THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WONDERFUL TIPS AND ADVISE...........Toni48 yes I do have the book.....I actually had the old one and hadn't read it so I returned it for the newer version and also got the helper guide to help me out......CountryMom yes you are very close, Livingston is a wonderful area to just get away......YellowRose, the place in town is called Frankie Mandola's on Kirby.......He even has a sugar free keylime pie and breadpudding on the menu.........My lunch yesterday was off of his SB menu so im pretty sure everything was legal................And I am so PROUD of myself...........I walked 2 miles last night at the track............Tonite i'm gonna try for 2 1/4 or even 2 1/2.............I had some orange/cranberry juice this morning and it said 26g sugar...........But I looked and didnt see any sugar.............Did I do someting wrong? Everyone have a wonderful morning.........

VR
01-07-2003, 10:16 AM
Good Morning!

Welcome ACW, Lindar and Maemae...

Finally.. I did not have anything to eat after 8p last night. I'm trying for 7p but this is a step in the right direction. The last thing I had was a Clementine tangerine.. try them. They are in season now and are sweet (not tart), seedless and the skin is wrinkled and easy to peel.

Miata.. if I remember correctly, I think Deb makes her own peanut butter. I love the stuff I get at Trader Joes w/no salt. They also have wonderful almond butter..

Monet.. hope the information helps to find the right cut of meat.

Looking forward to a good SB day :) no make that a great SB day..

:lol:

Quivondra
01-07-2003, 10:17 AM
Just a quick HI before I start working. Studying really hard for the GMAT test so that I can get into business school...every spare second of my life right now is devoted to figuring out if a bus leaves anytown at 9am at a speed of 34mph and another bus leaves....UGH! Who cares???
Anyway, not letting this affect me too badly. Going to the gym again during lunch. I'll be back for WIW!

Debelli
01-07-2003, 10:19 AM
Heading out the door, just wanted to pop in and give a quick "hello:wave:

Promise, do or die, I will find a way to get in a post tonight - I'm having withdrawls!!!!!!:yikes:

{{{HUGS}}} :grouphug:

Deb

sef
01-07-2003, 10:44 AM
HiedieHo All!!

Waiting for my nails to dry. How exciting is that? Have PW this afternoon, friend is picking me up. Keeping fingers crossed, ear is not aching.

VR: Have never done the no-no after 7p. I know some have and maybe it is a good idea. I will have to succumb! You learn something every day, never heard of tri tip.

JACKK: Homemade Soup, one of my favorites. I often clean out the refrigerator and make soup. There is so much variety and if you make it hearty it is a meal. Of course I used to have biscuits or bread with it, but I have cleaned up my act! Reminds me I have a ham hock in freezer to make split pea soup. It is chilly here today would warm us up. Any leftover bratwurst? Cut it up and throw it in the soup!

YELLOW: Sorry your collarbone is still giving you trouble. That is something serious and needs a doctor. I usually feel if you have a cold it will take a week to clear up. If you go to the doctor it only takes seven days, so why bother?

LIN: I feel that is does matter in what type of flour you use in some recipes. Pastry flour is smoother textured, better for pie crusts for instance. Honey is NO-NO! Use agave instead. If you use a granulated sweetener you may have to make a small addition of your liquid as the syrup provides moisture as well as sweetness. You can substitute Splenda. There is a honey, raisined Kashi that is a no-no, read the label is our best bet. I use canned fruit in the juice variety not syrup kind. You'll probably get lots of suggestions and answers to your questions. That helps all of us maybe learn something we didn't know or forgot. I'm at the age where "senior moments" are a problem!

ACW: Glad you joined us. This is a wonderful woe, something that can become a lifestyle. For me weight issue has been lifelong and this is first plan I can live with. It's not the brands that are important but the ingredients. Read labels, watch the 3g rule. Look for stoneground whole wheat, avoid the things that we can't have. I have found as I go along that it is mostly commonsense. Once you get used to reading label it's a cinch! When I first started it would take forever to get through the grocery, now it's a snap! My DIL has a Kiwi uncle, she was fortunate to visit there. My son lived in OZ for 5 years and when he was transferred they made a side trip to NZ on the way home. Loved it!

Well time to put on the warpaint, go to the post office and look like I'm doing something constructive!

See y'all later!

Shirley

Fillise
01-07-2003, 10:44 AM
It is gorgeous but cold here! Got down into the 20s last night--very rare for east central Alabama! Belle and I had to snuggle to keep warm! (um, for the newbies--Belle is my cat).:D

Good OP day yesterday! So far so good today--did not get to the gym though. Was going to go last evening, but when I got in the car I had no headlights! Got to go get some new fuses today (because the bulbs are new--put them in last summer). So couldn
t go anywhere last night.

I'm enjoying my homemade SGWW bread. The machine did real well and the bread seems heartier than even the nature's own---so I'm thinking it has GOT to have more fiber in it. Will need to mae another loaf this weekend.

Quivondra--Hey girl! It is nice to have you back on the board! Um, I don't think any buses in NYC ever go 34 miles an hour! In that traffic it is more like .34 mph. Good luck with business school.

VR--the after 8 thing is hard for me--I very often do not get home from meetings and whatnot until then. I need light things to eat at night for those evenings.

Maemae--it sounds like you had a great day yesterday!!!! Fruit is rich in fructose so it will have a lot of sugar, but fructose won't raise your insulin levels like refined sugars so that is ok. Just make sure there are none of the "hidden" sugars like corn syrup or dextrose, etc. Also tomato sauce shows a lot of sugar, even if there is nothing but tomatoes in the can--again it is the fructose and is ok.

Monet--dinner sounds great! I didn't know the cellophane noodels were low GI--but I'm glad to know it now! I understand the cellphone blues--the month before the election I used 945 minutes (I have a 400 minute plan)--sheesh.

Jackie--Get to work girl! We both need to be very very good between now and the first Saturday in May--cause I have to admit I'm very very bad that day! :lol:

sweet--check the battery on your scale, but after two weeks that's not impossible!

Miata--You are so sweet to say such nice things. The peanut butter you grind yourself is probably the best of all--you KNOW there is nothing else in it!

ACW--Welcome! Glad to have you with us! I think the simplest thing to do is to follow the guidelines in the book. Stay away from sugar, white flour, white potatoes, corn and white rice. Eat lean proteins, fruit, veggies, and whole grains. Eat reasonable portions and you don't have to count anything--except perhaps to stay around 3 starchy carbs per day (sweet taters, brown rice, WW pasta, WW bread, etc). It 's almost too easy for those of us who have been taught to count and agonize over every morsel that goes into our mouths!

Gator--I hope you have better luck meeting up with everyone this year--should be since you will be there before the madness on Sunday.

Mom2Marsh--I'll field the Splenda question for you. Splenda is fine. Some of us do better on one atrificial sweetner as opposed to others--some of us prefer not to use them at all. But Splenda is legal. It measures like sugar so if a recipe calls for fructose you will have to convert the measurment. many of us like to use agave, which is hard to find. You can some order it at:http://www.sweetcactusfarms.com

lindarn--Welcome! See my reply to marsh for an answer to your sweetner question. Please ask as many questions as you need to--we want to help!

VR--thanks for the information on the tri tip steak. I lloked for it in Burno's last night--but I'll ask for it the next time I'm in there.

Bob--keep the house warm! Though your KY blood is probably enjoying the frost in the air!

Yellowrose--Hey!

OK--got to get to work. Have a good day everyone!

Susan

YellowRose
01-07-2003, 11:16 AM
Morning,

After reading the post from the Florida people, it sounds like it is going to be quite cool the morning of the race.
For those of us who will not be running, how do you suggest we dress? I thought the weather was showing it to be
getting warm. I bet you who are there know best.

I have seen a lot of information regarding not eating after 7 PM. I probably missed a post so, could some one
please catch me up on new information?

Sweetbeater: Your scales may very well be correct. When I first started SB, the pounds were dropping radically. I
even decided that I was losing too quickly and added food to my plan.

Jack-K: Glad your soup turned out so well. I have started substituting cauliflower for the potatoes and I don’t miss
them in the soup. You are right, this is the year of actually meeting “the” goal.

Quivondra: So funny about the math problem...I had forgotten about those. Good luck on the GMAT.

Monet: Your daughter must indeed be putting the time on the cell phone. My plan allows 1200 minutes after 8
PM and on weekends. That almost feels free to me. During M-F I get 250 minutes which I watch because I don’t
want to pay the 30 cents a minute fee. I remember when my daughter was a teen it was such a trial.. Now she is
my best friend.

ACW: Welcome. It looks like several people have already given you great advice about the plan.

Lindarn: Welcome to you, also.

Fillise: Hey to you as well as Miss Belle.

Hope the day is kind to all of you.

miata1997
01-07-2003, 11:23 AM
Hi!!!

wELL i am off to Tops in a few minutes for a official weigh in...I am feelin empowered. Ever been to ww weigh in's?? You know you do everything in your power to make that scale go down??? you drink and eat nothing before weigh in, you wear the skimpiest clothes??? been there??? don't that??? well I sure have..Guess what ??? Not happening this time..This morn I ate my little bowl of shreded wheat and 2 cups of coffee..I eat every morn so why change it for weigh in. I don't care, the weight will go down, and I feel good about not freaking over the scale..Now I got to admit that I might get to feeling different later and if I do, gently remind me of this statement here.

I was going to comment of something else but darn it I forgot what it was...Oh well I Will post later after I weigh in and go to curves..

See ya

Kathy/Miata

music teach
01-07-2003, 11:51 AM
Mornin' y'all. Back to school today. :dizzy: It was really hard to get up this morning. The kids didn't want to get up either. They were ready to get together with their friends tho. Eating has been OK the last couple of days. Notice OK, not OP.:s: But, hopefully now that I'll be back in the school routine, my eating will be 100%. Of course the lounge is filled with goodies today, so I 'm staying out of there.

Welcome to all the newbies. It's good to hear from you.

MAEMAE: A big Texas howdy to you. I'm in Mt. Pleasant in NE TX. My brother lives in Houston. He writes for the Chronicle and is the one who introduced me to SB.

Sorry I can't get to everyone now, but it's LUNCHTIME!!

Toni48
01-07-2003, 12:03 PM
Good morning everyone.... Well tomorrow is weigh in and I'll be glad to have the first week back OP under my belt. Hopeing I do well and everyone else has good luck with metal monster.

Hi Mom2Marsh and Gatorgal...

acw- A great big welcome. You'll love the support and friendship you get on this board. Starting out is so hard and learning how to do this is a little confusing but ask lots of questions and we'll all try to help. Its a great way of eating...

miata- I used to go to TOPS years ago and it was a wonderful support group. I loved it and went for along time. Wish they had one near me to go to. Think you'll like it...

sweetbeater- Wow I hope thats your loss, when you starting off you can get really big loses so hope this is yours...

Jack-K- Yum soup sounds so good on these old winter days. Glad it went over so good... Good job on getting your walk in...

Monet- Your stir fry sounds wonderful. I make a simple one of brown rice, green onions, shrimp. We had it last night with a green salad. Would love to put broccli in it but DH doesn't go for it.. Good for you and the cell phone. If more parents were like that kids would learn responiblites.

maemae- sounds like you're doing good. The sugar in the juice is okay as long as it isn't added sugar. Fruit has a natural sugar in it called frutose.

VR- Hello there gal glad you're doing okay...

Quivondra- Good luck on the studying...

Debilli-As usual you're on the run... You're one busy lady....

Sef- Hope your ear troubles are a thing of the past....

Fillise- Hi to you and Belle....

Yellowrose- I'm envying you going to Florida to the warm weather and having a great time with all the girls. Enjoy yourself...

I think I'm missing a page so I'm off to go find it... Have a good day everyone.

213/171/130

Solly
01-07-2003, 12:07 PM
Just thought I would check in and the board has been busy so I will catch up some.

Monet, My DD has free nights and weekends on her cell phone. She waits until after 8 to use it most of the time. She usually uses around 2500 minutes a month and we only pay for 400. The N&W run around $10 a month. Might be worth it

Sweetbeater. You scale is probably ok. Jump back on it again tomorrow just to be sure. Let me know when you try those pancakes. I want to try them too. On the cherries, I would say 1 cup would be a serving. But 2-3 servings of fruits a day are good.

Maemae, Good for yu getting a walk in. You are doing great. As long as there is no added sugar in the juice it is probably ok.

VR, Thanks for the info on the Clementines. I will look for them. I love oranges and tangerines but they are so hard to peel. WTG on not eating after 8:00.

Quiv, I hate those kinds of questions. You have to think too much :lol:. Good luck on WIW.

Sef, How do you make split pea soup? Thanks for the tips.

Fillise, Bummer about not getting to the gym. I'm glad you didnt have that problem in all your travels. I'm glad your bread turned out. I didn't like it. It was too dense for me. Plus I just don't have the time. I'm trying to be really good until May. My DD wedding is the next weekend so we have lots to do and I need to fit into my dress nicely with no bulges.

Yellow, the SB book says no eating after 8:00. I think some were trying to make it earlier.

Miata, good luck on your weigh in. Next week it will be less.

Just finish and apple and was still hungry so I had some cheese. That should hold me until 1:00 for lunch of salad.

Be back later.

Jackie
257/167/145
10-10-01

Toni48
01-07-2003, 12:07 PM
Heartmom- Yea for you... You've got the power....
Hey Bob- You're just way to busy gal....

Toni48
01-07-2003, 12:10 PM
Music Teach- We were posting at the same time. Glad to see you back in the swing of things...

maemae
01-07-2003, 12:16 PM
Hi guys..............I have to say ya'll are awesome for including me in your e-mails..........I went again to look at the orange juice container to see what was up............It was Minute Maid orange juice from concentrate.............I hope I didnt screw myself up already this morning...........How many times can you have juice during the day? And what is 3g rule again?

gracious
01-07-2003, 12:36 PM
Please don't freeze on me again....

I saw the scale go down this morning and that is a thrill. I am still not going to post numbers until I am closer to my signature and those holiday pounds are nearly gone.

MONET- Hey girl. I am hanging in and by the sounds of it you did much better than I did over the holidays. We did enjoy ourselves and I loved hosting my first Christmas dinner for my parents. Mom always had it at her house but now that we moved out east they had to come to us to enjoy the grandkids. It was my mother's first *real* Christmas because she got saved last January 8th so that made it extra special. Dad is so close I am just praying that God removes his heart of stone and gives to him a heart of flesh very soon. I trust you had a wonderful celebration of His birth too. {hugs}

TONI- Nice to see you! :wave:

MOM2MARSH- Welcome to the board. I have been AWOL over the holidays so I didn't see your arrival. However, I saw you mention a music minister and thought I would ask your relationship there. My hubby is a Pastor so I wondered if we have another sister in Christ on the board!

JACK-K- SB Posterchild that you are! I see you are still doing wonderful and are well on the way to full recovery as you look forward to the wedding. I am going to catch you again!!

MUSICTEACH- Stay away from that lounge!

COUNTRYMOM-Yes, it was a pleasure to get things back in order, especially since I am also babysitting a 2 year old and an 11 month old. Five kids can be a handful so I am back down to 3 when my older two are at school. I admire you homeschoolers, that is for sure!! I am so grateful for our Christian school though. My homeschooling of my littlest is on hold while I adapt to having the extras here with us. I think we will start back on Monday...but that is only Junior Kindergarten after all!


I better go...gotta keep moving!

SolShine
01-07-2003, 01:01 PM
It's a BLUE, BLUE Day at Chez SolShine.....

I had to tell Meister and the "princess" that MEL and BOB will not be there to receive "kisses" and admire her ribbons. :cry: :sorry:




Speaking of :queen: She got Winner's Reserve in the show on Sunday - It was a "major" meaning there were lots of dogs in her group, so it was a big deal for us. Of course, I had to pay the $25 to get our picture made with the judge. :rolleyes: Proud Momma and Pappa couldn't have been more goofy acting. All the 'old timers' were really amused with us.

BOB, KATE is very blessed to have a wonderful daughter that loves and takes such good care of her....just don't tell MY mom or she'll start asking me where she went wrong! :o

MEL, I sure hope that ankle heals up quickly! I'll be happy to provide wheelchair duties, too, if you decide you can't live without seeing DEB cross the finish line and strutting your stuff in the fashion show. :D

MONET, my dad used to put a jar in the kitchen every month with our lunch money for school. When it was gone, it was gone. If we spent it on other things then we went hungry. He did lots of other MEAN things like that when I was growing up - and, considering how I turned out - I hate to think of what would have happened if I hadn't had such a mean old Daddy! :drill:

YELLOWROSE - For clothes in Florida - I have one word for that - LAYERS - It will be 30 degrees in the morning and 70 degrees by lunch time. Me? I'm thinking of getting some flourescent jackets and multi-colored striped socks to wear with my skin tight leather pants so I can run up and hug DEBBIE when she crosses that finish line!

I'm outta time, Gals..... WELCOME to the newbies on the board!! You're definitely in the right place!!

:wave:

cherylco
01-07-2003, 01:34 PM
Trying to get back into my regular grove now that the kids are back in school hurah! :cb:

GatorGal
Have your daughter check out http://www.quitsmokingsupport.com/
My mom used it to help her quit. They have a great support group.
Tell your daughter to hang in there. I quit after 15 years and haven't smoked for 4 years now. It's the greatest thing in the world! Well besides SB :)

Mom2Marsh
Triskets have been my main source of holding off the munchies. I don't know what I'd do without them!!

heartmom
I cannot wait to see the scale drop below 200 too! I keep on going because I know if I don't it never will.


lindarn
Welcome to the group! You can use splenda as a sweetener it's legal. Agave tastes a whole lot better though!

Mom2Marsh
01-07-2003, 02:07 PM
Miata- Great attitude re: weigh ins! I’ve really struggled to overcome the desire to “falsely” lower the numbers on weigh-in day. I just make sure to weigh at the same time of day and leave it at that.

Fillise- Can you share your bread recipe? My SB friend and I are going to have a baking day soon and I’d love to try that one out.

Gracious- Yes, you have another sister in Christ on the board! I’m also lucky enough to work as a receptionist/secretary at my church (hence why the music minister’s candy dish serves as constant temptation!). I’d love to be a Stay-at-Home-Mom to my 18-month old son, but circumstances don’t allow that. I feel very blessed that I get to serve the Lord so directly in my work.

GatorGal- How’s your daughter doing? I’m praying for her success!

Well, today has gone well. I went out to lunch with my SB buddy and stayed legal. I'm headed to my MIL's for dinner which should be interesting. I love the woman to death but I swear she deliberately sabotages me when I'm dieting. She knows SB backwards and forwards and knows that I'm doing it. In fact she knows that as an overweight diabetic she should be doing it also. Does that stop her from serving fried chicken and potatoes with rolls for dinner every time I come over? Of course not! I'm foiling her this time. I've packed my own meal! Luckily she's not the type to be offended.

--Kat

heartmom
01-07-2003, 02:41 PM
Lin- also, read the labels- if it says over 3 grams of sugar(like in the cereal) stay away. 3 and under is okay.

ACW- I read the posts from my fellow SBer's and their menus they had for the day- and almost always I eat ALOT more than that. But it's all in what you choose to eat,also. I drink lots of water and have increased my protein(helps with the sugar cravings). I woke up this morning after 5(early for me) and had a NSA yogurt and an orange. By 9, I was feeling hungry so I made me an omelette(2 eggs,1sl cheese, and 1 sl ham). Probably in an hour I will make a big chef salad and have Kraft's Lite Done Right Three Cheese Ranch dressing(if you love ranch, then you gotta get this! just go easy on it..) I may eat a piece of fruit or something about an hour before supper. Supper tonight is going to be hamburgers, salad, and whatever veggie I decide to throw together.

Okay, I'm still at 215 today(3 more to go!). I'm REALLY wanting to loose 10 pounds within the next 4-5 weeks! It's time to start loosing again.....

heartmom
01-07-2003, 02:52 PM
Someone posted about the juice and it's sugar-MAEMAE? All though it doesn't have sugar ADDED to it, it's the natural sugars in it(26 g). But it's always better to eat the fruit itself than the juice. Something about the processing increases the GI with the juice. But, I sneak a glass of orange juice from concentrate from time to time:) Legal, but only in moderation.

maemae
01-07-2003, 03:03 PM
Thanks Heartmom......Im gonna try and drink only a glass in the morning.......For dessert today I had a cupful of fruit......Im on the right path (finally)

Fillise
01-07-2003, 03:24 PM
The board is so busy that I feel like I need to pop in twice a day just to keep up!

Just had an egg salad sandwich for lunch--yum.

maemae--heart is right--the fruit is better than the juice. I try to have grapefruit or an orange in the am. But juice without added sugar is ok in mederation and the book suggests on an empty stomach.

heart--souns like a good menu for today--you'll get to 199 in no time!

mom2marsh--it's a bread machine recipe--will that work for you? If so I'll be happy to share it. I'll try to get it on the recipe board in the next day or so. I'm the DCE at my church--and our secretary keeps a big bowl of candy on her desk--plus the senior minister is a sweet freak so he is always bringing sweets to our staff meeting--actually the church (or rather the people in it) is the biggest obstacle to my weight loss!

Sol--you must be so proud of the Princess!!!! Belle is a champion napper--just like her mama!:lol:

ok back to work though I'd really rather spend the time here.

Susan

Mom2Marsh
01-07-2003, 03:41 PM
Fillise- Bread machine recipe is perfect. I'm really freaked out by the thought of making bread on my own! :stress:

How true about the church members!!! I was doing really well before the holidays hit. Then as soon as Thanksgiving arrived, it felt like the entire church body collectively thought "Um, let's all back cookies, cakes, pies, homemade candy and bring it to the staff!" We actually had to clear a desk off in the reception area (where I work, of course) to hold all the goodies! :dizzy: You just love 'em to death for thinking of you, but it's hard to have to look at it all day. I put on 8 pounds between Thanksgiving and New Years. :lol:

Well, I'm off to get my plain yogurt w/polaner's all-fruit from the fridge. It's one of my all-time favorite SB treats. I'm heading to the HFS tonight to get some legal chocolate. I'm getting near that time of the month and I need to be armed and ready with a healthier option!

--Kat

miata1997
01-07-2003, 04:13 PM
Just a quick post before I head off to Curves again, I did one round already but since my stomach was strating to grawl, and I have a tendency to get low blood sugar if I exercise on an empty stomach I thought I had better go eat..

Anyway here is the official TOPS WEIGHT IN::::

199.5

So that will be my starting point. i like it..It is under 200 and that is good. The group of ladies are so funny, most are in there 60, 70, or 80's....but I don't care, it will be fun, Christ decided to join curves with me..and if we do our walking tog, that will be great..My dog will like it. I actually know 2 people who go, they are quilters from my big quilt guild.. It was so nice to meet and talk with them..I will show my quilts to the tops group next week.

I will write back later to tell you of my evening!!! So far did good. Had small bowl sw, and for lunch I had sauted pork in O fat, green beans with a little feta cheese, and prob a 1/2 cup of sweat potatoe, and a pear..

What do you think about acorn squash???Any one know the gi number thing for it??? I really like that kind of squash and am hoping it is not considered a sweet potatoe..


bye for now

Kathy

YellowRose
01-07-2003, 04:15 PM
I am still playing with my packing. I have a list I follow so I will be sure to include all my creature comforts.
However, I need to finish playing and get on to some other activities. I decided to take a break and see what is
happening on the board. I am glad to see that it is very busy. Debbie will be proud of us.

Jack-K: I guess that I just blocked that statement about not eating after 8 PM. I bet it would be better for a person
but my schedule does not always permit that. You sound very calm for someone whose DD is getting married just
next week. Having something you feel good about wearing helps, I bet.

Maemae: Although juice is good, I think that having the whole fruit is better for you because of the fiber and it
takes longer to eat. I see others have also suggested the whole fruit, I guess, we are all in agreement then.

Gracious: I understand what you mean about being above the board stated weight. I did not go back in and
change it but now I am back to that weight and I don’t need to. YEAH!

Solshine: Thanks for the information about what to wear for the race. I will be putting a little light hat and more
layers in the suitcase now. I will be happily waiting for you ( camera in hand ) to welcome Deb across the finish
line in such fine attire.

Rest break is over.;)

heartmom
01-07-2003, 04:25 PM
The board is busy- I was bored and got back on the computer...

Fillese- Thanks for the words of encouragement(and everyone else).

Okay, I got thru with my chef salad and I was still a little hungry so I ate a slice of WWSF bread topped with peanut butter. I use the Jif's simply. It has only 2 grams sugar for 2 tbs. BTW- I have been eating artificially yogurt forever now. I really like the sweetness of it-but am concerned about the effects the AS might have. So how do you guys make your plain yogurt yummy? I don't have any agave..

MIATA- don't think I ever had acorn squash before, but I eat yellow squash all the time. The yellow is low in carbs and natural sugars.

Solly
01-07-2003, 04:44 PM
Goodness we are a talkative group this week. I guess we need the extra support to get going.

Getting ready to head home. walk, workout and work on wedding list will be my agenda tonite.

Music, we were posting at the same time. Stay out of that lounge now. We are ALL getting to goal this year, so come join us.

Toni, I know you are going to have a good WIW tomorrow, I can just feel it.

maemae, There isn't a certain # of times you can have juice, but you get more fiber and the real fruit is better for you. I try not to drink alot of juice. Just in the am and in smoothies. (and with my vodka - but I'm not doing that anymore).

Gracious, I think you have caught up with me and left me in your dust. I hope to be at 162 soon though. More than anything I want to see a 150 #

Solshine, The Princess is doing great in her shows. I know you must be very proud. You're not bribing those judges are you??? All I can say is someone better take tons of pics of this event. I got such a laugh out of your "outfit".

Cherylco, you are so close to 200 you willbe there in a couple of weeks. Keep on Keepin on and you will see it before you know it.

Mom2Marsh, WTG girl on taking your own dinner to your MIL. That is being prepared. I am so proud of you. That's the way this thing works.

Fillise, Egg salad, yum one of my favorites. SOmetime for breakfast I will have a hard boiled egg sandwich (open face with mayo).

Miata, 199.5 is a great place to start. Remember only 1/2 sweet potatoe counts as 1 starchy carb. Squash is a veggie.

Yellowrose, My DD wedding is not next week, it is the week after Derby. I'm sorry didn't make myself clear. I have 4 months to worry.

Good luck to everyone for WIW tomorrow.
Are we having CHAT tonight? I will try to look in around 9:20. I assume we are all still in one room? Don't like that. ish we could get our own room again.

Jackie
257/167/145
10-10-01

Mom2Marsh
01-07-2003, 04:45 PM
heartmom- I add Polaner's All-Fruit or other similar jelly to my plain yogurt. In fact, I just finished some!

GatorGal
01-07-2003, 04:59 PM
Thanks you Monet for explaining about the p-nut butter. It was a great, and correct, description. And anything other than “natural” or the kind you grind yourself, will probably have hydrogenated oils, also known as trans-fatty acids. They are bad!!
If you are afraid of the oil that comes with natural p-nut butter, even after mixing it in, wait for it to separate again and just pour some of it off. Debelli does that. It probably will make your peanut butter rather dry, because it is naturally oily, unless it is Jif or one of those brands with the bad “extras.” Actually, the article I read in Eating Well said that natural oils such as that in peanut butter, were really pretty good for you and would help to lower cholesterol.

ACW--I don’t think there is anyone else here from NZ, but one of the scientists who has done a lot of work on the Glycemic Index comes from either NZ or Australia ( I can’t remember which). You might get more information re. this on the mendoza.com website, as he uses a lot of her data for his GI tables. Her name is Dr. Jenny Brand. It really doesn’t matter to us that you are 12 hours different from us here on the east coast of NA, or 8 hours from us on the west coast. This board crosses all country borders. It is a worl-wide community of friends we have here.

Monet--Your comment: “There is some question on whether your brain decides to release insulin just from the taste of sweetness alone. “ makes me wonder about that also. I had a very healthy SB “legal” breakfast of SB pancakes, a pat of butter, SF syrup and fresh fruit. By 10:30 I was thinking “food”. I would have eaten a candy bar if it had walked by. That was unusual, and I am thinking that the sweet taste in the syrup perhaps triggered this. This might have been something associated with an unnecessarily high rise in my insulin levels in response to that sweet taste. Next time I’ll try them w/o any syrup and top them, perhaps, with sautéed apples.

Mom--I loved your comments about churches and food. What IS it about Christians and food??? I volunteer one day a week at a crisis pregnancy center and it has a Christian basis to it. And there is always tons of candy, nuts, crackers, etc. They staff think they are being nice to us volunteers by having it there. Showing their love for us, stuff like that. But actually, it sabotages me. It actually is NOT loving, really, and I am in a quandry as to how to handle the myriads of temptations I face when I am there. When I fall off the wagon, it invaribly is either there or on Sunday night at our small group get together. Any suggestions, anyone?

Am having pork tenderloin roast for dinner. It is cold here, and that sounds hearty. I fix it roasted with red and green cabbages sautéed with Granny Smith apple and a little balsamic vinegar. Also probably will fix an easy version of ratatouille (that is, w/o eggplant). I’m gonna split the 1/2 pound of pork between 3 of us, so it will be mainly veggies with a bit of meat on the side.

Gotta go. Want to get a 1.5 mile walk in before DH gets home.
BTW, my DD made an appt. with a holistic health center for help to get off the coffin nails. She is going there on Friday for some accupuncture, some drops to help, and, I think, some tea and some stuff to put in bath water to soak in. Thanks for all your kinds words and prayers sent up for her. I think the prayers will help the very most of all.

CountryMom4Him
01-07-2003, 05:19 PM
Sitting here reading all the neat post ya'll have left today. I should have taken notes so I could write back..but I admit it...I'm lazy today. :)

WTG Kathy! I think it's great you ate normal before your weigh in. That way you don't have to worry every week if you have a bite or two.

Some one asked about juice...I persoanlly don't drink it because I don't want all the nautural sugars. As many have said fruit is sooooo much better for ya. Though, if I don't eat enough I will have a bit of juice to jump start me and give me a little energy. I'm also one of those who tries not to eat after 7. They say it takes like 3 hours for your food to digest. I think it also helps me to not add calories to my day I don't need.

Welcome to the new people that I've missed over the last few days!! This group is precious. You have come to a wonderful place for ideas, support and encouragment.

Love,
Crystle

235/?/140

Toni48
01-07-2003, 05:20 PM
Maemae- I think you could have it twice a day. That would be your 2 fruits..

Gracious- Way to go girlfriend on getting those holiday lbs. off.. Can't wait till tomorrow to see how I've done...

lindarn
01-07-2003, 05:22 PM
Thanks everyone for your welcome and your replies.....just like I suspected....you guys are great....

Thanks again for making me feel right at home.....

Lin..

Toni48
01-07-2003, 05:39 PM
Solshine- Congrads on your dog getting Winners Reserve, thats quite an honor. And of course you have to have a picture.......

Cherylco- And you're going to see that scale drop below 200, look lady how close you are... Yea!!

Mom2Marsh- Good going on bringing your own dinner. Thats great. Maybe when your MIL sees you are really serious she'll start trying to fix meals you can eat. Stay strong!!!

Heartmom-You can do it... Sounds like you're eating just right..

Maemae- Good for you on the fruit. Thats what I do...

Fillise- If that bread recipe is the one on our boards it great.... I've made it before an was so proud of it..

miata-Good for you and curves. Thats so good to hear about your liking TOPS. You sure have the motivation. Thats so exciting.

Yellowrose- Just looked at your numbers and they're so good. You are so near your goal....

Jack-K- I'm so JEALOUS of your numbers... But I'll get over it if I keep on eating right. No more Christmas breaks. Thank goodness.

Gatorgal- Congrads to your daughter on really giving the stop smoking such a big try. I sure do wish her good luck...Yummy your dinner sounds good...

CountryMom- A big howdy to you. Hope everything is going alright.

Well better go start dinner. Or either have a snack. LOL.. Have been so lazy today but did finish the new SB book... Good luck tomorrow on WIW.

213/171/130

VR
01-07-2003, 05:58 PM
Good Afternoon...

CountryMom... I cannot get over your pictures on the photo board. What a beautiful face and what a difference those lbs make. Keeping that picture in your kitchen should keep you inspired. Job well done!

Jackie... I was thinking that your DD wedding was this weekend also and thought you were keeping very cool....

GatorGal... Why no eggplant in the ratatoulie? I still use the recipe you had on the board a long time ago (the best). Is there something I need to know about eggplant?

Miata... I'm gonna go back to the Curves that is close to me b/4 the end of the week. There hours are a little strange M - F 9a to noon and 4p to 7 or 8pm. Not open Sat or Sun. QUESTION for you: Do you have to come in at a specific time to catch the workout or do you just start in at a specific place when it's available... I understand the set up as far as machines and platforms. Thanks..

Deb... Do you ever hear from Vivian, Beach Fan (Anna), Bunny, SusanV, Barbee, or the young lady from Hawaii...
I may not have a lot of these names right.

Take care everyone...

Tranquil
01-07-2003, 06:32 PM
I am just checking in so that I can say Hello before I crash to bed...still sick....I am a walking, whining germ!!!

Lyn - You are so sweet to offer to push my wheelchair!!!

Thanks everyone for the well wishes - I am trying, trying, trying - so that I can be somewhat fun to be around this weekend....

Poor Serene has to be stuck with me at work blowing my nose, coughing, the whole shebang and then ride with me to Orlando listening to more of it - and at this very moment, Junior Germ, my wonderful son, is now breathing heavily on me to feed him and get him tucked in bed - he waited until school started before he got sick...

Oh before I go - got the new SBer book! YEAH!!!!!!! Ready to read and get back on 100% program!!!!

Sabrina

acw
01-07-2003, 07:17 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome and the great advice! I've just been to the library and requested "eat yourself slim" and picked up a copy of "sugarbusters for kids". This has a sugarbusters food pyramid in it. For the other newbies here's the basics....

whole grain bread,cereal etc low gi 6-10 serves
fruit gruop 2-4 serves
high fiber vege 3-5 serves
lean meat,fish, poultry eggs 2-3 serves
dry beans,soy,legumes,seeds and nuts 1-2 serves
1%red fat milk, yoghurt and cheese 2-3 serves
fats oils and sweets use sparingly

I hope this is as helpful to the rest of you as it will be to me. I like being able to have a guide so I know that I'm eating enough. I have a busy day with 3 children under 6 and it's school holidays here for 6 weeks. I find I often get to the end of the day and in thinking back realise I've hardly eaten a thing.

The internet is a great way of not picking tho!!!

Just a question an I have things like diabetic jams etc? What about ww cordials, jelly etc? Are these ok or do I need to label read? What is the best guide as far as max sugar grams in a product?

Well it's lunchtime here 1.10pm and I'd better go and eat. I'll join you guys tomorrow for a weigh in!

Anna:)

GatorGal
01-07-2003, 08:49 PM
VR--No there's nothing you have to worry about with eggplant. But I was making a hurry-up version of ratatouille, and so just take a few yellow and green squash and sauté them a tad, add onions and garlic. Cook a little more and add the tomatoes and let it cook till done. The eggplant require a little more oil and one more step and I was not in the mood to do the whole hog recipe.

VR
01-07-2003, 09:51 PM
GG.. glad to hear that because your recipe is really a favorite of mine. I swear I can eat the whole thing in a couple of days..

I wonder if it's still posted on the board.

Take care

Debelli
01-07-2003, 10:12 PM
Okay, I said do or die - anyone want to order my casket?

Michael just got off the computer, I get on and Lauren tells me she needs the computer to finish homework. I asked for 5 minutes - my time is just about up. In fact she is standing here tellig me my 5 minutes are up!:yikes:

I'm going to bed, hoping to get in some sleep. ELI's car died today and he just found out he may have to go open the store at 4:45am tomorrow, meaning, if we can't jump it, I'm going to have to drive him to work at that time, come home and get the kids off to school. Tomorrow is going to be a VERY busy and full day for me, trying to get things ready for Orlando AND go see my Aunt (yes, she's still alive!).

A quickie toALL THE NEWBIES http://members.aol.com/eldemila/sb_sign4.jpg Please forgive me at this time for not being able to address each and every one of you individually as I normally do. The gals on the board will explain this unusual behavior of mine:^: I promise to be "back to normal" come Monday! Those who know me may think otherwise;)

{{{HUGS}}} to you all!:grouphug:

Debbie

Debelli
01-07-2003, 10:16 PM
Oops, almost forgot, TOMORROW IS WIW! Sorry, I won't be participating:shrug:

Sorry, I also forgot about chat - my brain isn't here. I promise, next week, will have a LOT to chat about!!!!

Toodles

acw
01-07-2003, 10:38 PM
Me again.

GatorGal, Thanks for the advice re australian website. Have found it and will be useful.

It is www.glycemicindex.com and is very relevant to nz and australian products but might be worth a look for anyone.

Bye I'm off now to hunt thru some fave recipe books to see what I can convert to this WOE. I might post back tomorrow and run a few past you guys to see if I can use.:wave:

Anna

Ellen
01-07-2003, 11:20 PM
Good Evening!

I had my doctors appointment. I left feeling encouraged, tho it was not all good news. He increased my T-3 thyroid hormones, and gave me a schedule he wants me to follow in the dosing. I have to go back in a month to see how it is working. He diagnosed the rather severe chest pains I have been having. Yes, I know this is the first I mentioned them on here. I don't like talking about it if I don't know what it is. I was pretty sure it was not my heart... Anyway, it is a viral caused inflammation of the chest lining. I can't remember the actual name that it is called. He put me on anti inflammatories for it, and said it should clear up quickly. I have had it before but never this bad. He said it does recur, he has it and gets it after being sick often...so the mono probably triggered it. Makes sense. He then decided he wanted to weigh me on his new office scale..he has a new office...so we went out to the scale. I got on and nearly freaked! His scale was 25 pounds heavier than mine at home! I was pretty upset, when he said, "Ok, put your hands on my head, and pray to lose weight." I balked, and a drug rep down the hall started laughing. He pressed me to do it, so I finally said ok. I wanted to say, HEAL!, but I did not...anyway, I got back on the scale and was miraculously 20 pounds lighter! The stinker had put his foot on the scale to tease me! I laughed all the way home!

On a more depressing note, I am not going to be able to go to the get together in Orlando this weekend. We were going to be driving from Atlanta, and are having some car trouble that we can't get resolved in time to go. It was a hard decision, but we talked it out and decided not going was going to be best. I think next time, I will just buy a plane ticket and fly!

Eating today was a bit out of kilter. I had my usual bacon and eggs for breakfast, but forgot to eat lunch before I set out for the doctors. As usual, I ended up being there much longer than I anticipated, and did not get home until late afternoon- like five! (my appointment was at 1!!) I ate a protein bar, then had a nice pork chop, green beans and some savory lentils for dinner. I was pleased with the lentils. They are very low GI, and surprisingly good! That was the first time I have had then in years!

I had hoped to do individual posts, but it is bed time, and I am so tired! I will try and address everyone tomorrow.

Melf
01-07-2003, 11:41 PM
Heck Monet, Trish & I will be having a lay-over in Atlanta Thurs morning, jsu come down & we'll stw you away in our carry-on luggage & you can be with us! ;) I'm really sad to hear that you will not get to join us. :cry:

OK, I've got great news. DD's double wide was delivered & set up today. woohoo!! Are we excited!

I did my 12 hr shift today & I'mm off for a whole week. Tomorrow I start packing. I've made my copies of reciepes. Got my gift to bring & email from Deb all printed up to make sure I pack everything I'm suppose to bring. Now I'm heading for bed. Will check in tomorrow am. :wave:

Zanne
01-08-2003, 07:12 AM
Morning Everyone!

Oh my goodness! Look at all the new people on board! Welcome to Sugarbusters. As you've probably found out, the people on here are the best and will give you lots of support, answers and friendship.

I don't get on here too often, but I'm going to try to get on at least for WIW.

Forgive me for not addressing individuals. We've been really busy renovating. I'm really tired and not on the computer very much at all lately (which is unusual for me!)

I'm really disappointed with the scale this morning :( It put me UP to 170!!! :yikes: I haven't been that high for a while. :no: :stress: It's just very frustrating cause I've been a good girl. I have been doing really well for a week with eating about 95% on plan AND I've been EXERCISING every day! And then I get "rewarded" with a gain!!????

I knew the scale would be up cause my pants were snug. Maybe I've been having too much salt and it's just water gain:shrug:

I'll just have to take the GOOD news I saw in the mirror last night (YES! I took a good look!). I could tell that my belly was a little bigger(hopefully water bloat) but I could see my ribs just below my bust and it looked like my waist (at the sides) was nipped in a bit so that I've got the "hourglass" thing going on.

I'll keep trying my best to eat OP and exercise. I know I feel better when I eat OP and that's good. Eventually that weight will have to go! I might have to get in more water too. Thinking over the past couple of days, I haven't had enough water. I have Montignac's book, so I think I better get to studying that and maybe I can tweak my eating.

Thanks for letting vent!

I hope everyone else has a good WIW!:D

The Quilter
01-08-2003, 07:43 AM
Hello Everybody!!!!

I just wanted to report in with a long overdue greeting. I haven't read anything this week, but want to try and catch up. Hope you all had really special holiday times and that your new year is off to a SMASH.

Just wanted to let you all know that I'm back tracking the intake. I went back to Fitday.com to chart what's going in so that some other things will come off. So very sorry I took a nose dive there for a while. You all were never far from my thoughts. Can't wait to get back with you all on a regular basis and meet some of the newbies. I hope some of the oldie-but-not-moldies haven't gone anywhere during my absence.

Confession: haven't gotten on the scale in over a month. I think I'm too emotionally fragile to tackle that beast at this point.


Hugs to all,
Kim

Debelli
01-08-2003, 08:03 AM
Good WEIGH IN WEDNESDAY MORNING Well, at least it will be, for some:)

I wanted to pop in and just give a quick "hello" :wave: to you all before I start my day. I have a ton of things to do and places to go before I go get the kids and come home and continue with more stuff to do.

Just called my GP's house and my other aunt told me my Aunt Rose is still alive, but that she's taking what is suppose to be "death breaths". They still can't believe she's alive at this point, she's had no blood pressure since yesterday morning and when I spoke to them last night, couldn't believe she was still alive and figured she'd die during the night - she does NOT want to go to the other side, that's for sure! But, they see a change in her breathing and think it's any minute now - once again, all the speculations have been WRONG. Anyway, the funeral will be held on Sunday afternoon. Of course, I won't be there and it's totally understood. I will be walking/jogging with her in mind.

Okay, I can't stay on here, if so, the day will waste away!!!

Will try to check in later - depends on who's hogging the computer. It's hard enough to get on normally, but with all that's going on, and with Michael working on finals and Lauren needing the computer as well, it's been hard, but I know you all understand.

{{HUGS}}} :grouphug:

Debbie

gracious
01-08-2003, 08:14 AM
Wow...a talkative bunch!!

I am still down the same amount but the scale did not move over night..I will still take it. I hope everyone else does great on their WIW's!

QUILTER-Good to see you. I started my first piece quilt last night and it made me smile to see you this morning. Hope you get things in order and that metal monster will be at your mercy soon.

JACK-K- No way girl!! My signature is a BIG lie right now. You are winning the race in a big way. I will let you know when I catch up to you. I hate having to re-lose pounds but that is the consequences to my holiday carb-fest.

MOM2MARSH- I am our church secretary too....but it is a small church and I do it for hubby since he doesn't have his own *real* one here like at our previous church. Hubby has what he calls his *Sweet Harem*. These are ladies of the church who bring him their specialties in baking so he can indulge. He once mentioned from the pulpit that he didn't have a member of the sweet harem that specialized in Pumpkin Pie and of course the next week he had one on his desk!! I think all Senior Pastors like sweets and want them at every meeting going.

FILLISE- Keeping with the food/church talk..I have ladies here that bring warm home made bread to our house and that is a killer!! I love bread so it makes it even worse. Maybe now that it is the new year more people will be trying to lose and the goodies at church will not be as plentiful and it will be easier for you. Here is to hoping.

ZANNE- Nice to see my fellow Canuck on the board dropping by. I hear you have lots of snow just like us. We had over 1 foot drop all at once the other day and it just keeps coming. I guess winter is finally here to stay.

MONET- I can't believe your doctor did that!! I would have been freaking out too. The girls from LCC had a post about how we found the cafe so in my response I mentioned this board and let them know how you are doing these days. PrarieGal and Lindakimy both send their greetings to you.

I better get going. Reading up on so many posts takes so long these days.

:wave:

SolShine
01-08-2003, 08:49 AM
Thanks for all the congrats on Vixen. She really is a doll and I can’t believe I’m getting into this dog show stuff. The border terrier people, for the most part, are great, though. I enjoy being around them. I have pissed some off though. One lady on their message board posted a humorous incident with Dobermans and then made some comment about today the dogs would have been shot just because all cops are horrible and ignorant and hateful toward dogs…You KNOW I couldn’t let that one slide! :mad:

Well, it started quite a discussion among quite a few of us, but the lady maintained her narrow-minded views. I got on and posted that all I wanted her to do was think about how wrong it is to make sweeping generalizations like that when MOST officers do not unnecessarily kill or harm dogs. I then suggested that she probably wouldn’t like me when she met me if I was from Afghanistan or of a different religious belief or had a nose ring because of how much she relies on pre-conceived prejudices. :censored: I guess I won’t be posting on there for a while.

M2M – Great way to foil the saboteur! I haven’t had to deal with it, unfortunately, but some people on here have had people get down right ugly like your MIL about trying to sabotage their success and even say some mean things. People who aren’t successful at things important to them think no one should be successful sometimes. Way to go! You’re a great example to her and may even inspire her to jump back on the SB wagon. :bravo:

HEART – People at different weights will eat different amounts and people at lower weights will eat less than us. ALSO, sometimes people aren’t eating ENOUGH. (Hard for me to imagine, but it happens) I wasn’t eating enough when I started and DEBBIE helped me find ways to up my calorie intake. It worked. Re: AS yogurt – I buy the plain non-fat yogurt and add a scoop of protein powder to it. The protein I buy is sweetened with Splenda and it makes it kind of pudding like. I’ve also added it to fruit. I find the extra protein really does help me with my hunger pains, too. I also buy the unsweetened PB. Publix has their own that’s just peanuts – it’s really yummy. You’ll get there!

MIATA – Once you get those dogs on the walking schedule, they’ll hold you to it! :lol: That can be the greatest exercise motivator right there! I love acorn, spaghetti, butternut, yellow and zucchini squash! I think DEBBIE says the winter squashes aren’t the best for us, but in moderation it’s okay. MARIE is our resident GI expert, maybe she’ll peek in or someone else will be able to give you more specifics than I can. MELF may know since she’s the squash queen in LA. She gave us an awesome recipe for zucchini squash pizza crust once and I LOVE that! Sweet potatoes are okay in moderation, too.

ROSE - :joker: We just had our coldest day this year, so I’m thinking LOTS OF LAYERS may be in order. I may have to throw some sweatpants on over my leather ones, but I definitely want DEBBIE to be able to see me when she crosses that line to get her medal.

JACKIE – There will be TONS of pictures taken at our PAR-TAY! You all will certainly feel like you’re here with us. Maybe we’ll all take turns posting on the board from my house on Friday.

GATORGAL – MMMMmmmmm! You always fix the yummiest sounding food! Glad your DD is getting the help she needs. Quitting smoking is one of the hardest things I think. I can’t imagine doing it on your own. How about taking veggie trays with you? Or cheese and Triscuits? Looking forward to seeing you! :chef:

COUNTRY – You’re not lazy! I’M lazy – I took the elevator up to the 2nd floor this morning! Just didn’t feel like the stairs – how bad is that?? BTW, I look at your pics on the board when I need inspiration. You’ve come so far and it’s just wonderfully encouraging!

TONI – I have to LOL reading your post. You say nearly the same things as I do, but in about 1/10th of the space. I guess they don’t call me MOUTH OF THE SOUTH for nuthin’….

VR – I got an e-mail from SPARKLESCAMP aka HELLONWHEELS a while back but I was swamped and told her I’d get back with her and, sadly, haven’t. I sure hope she’s doing well. She’s so strong, I’m sure she is.

TRANQUIL – Keep poppin’ those Vitamin C’s, girlfriend! You’ll need all the strength you can muster for the pillow fight!

ACW – I LOVE the SB for Kids book! It’s much better than the regular one, IMO. That chicken salad with mandarin oranges in the back of the book is AWESOME!!! So quick and easy, too. I bring that for lunch many times.

MONET – That’s a really mean joke! I would have probably had a heart attack and then they’d have had more drugs they’d have to give me. :lol: Those doctor scales are always heavier, imo. I AM SAD!! Is there NO WAY you can come??? I was SOOOO looking forward to meeting you! :cry:

MELF – You aren’t going to know what to do with all that extra space and quiet in your home, are you?

ZANNE – Way to honestly assess things! I’m sure it’s water and muscle since you’ve been doing everything else right.

OMG!!!! QUILTER!!!!! (((((((HUGS))))))) SOOOOO GOOOD TO SEE YOU!!!! Don’t worry about that starting point, Girlfriend! I’ve taken the weight off my signature ‘cause it’s just too darn depressing. I plan to go by that red streak around my belly at the end of the day for a while. When it disappears I’ll consider jumping on that scale. Just wait til BOB sees you’ve posted!

:wave:

sweetbeater
01-08-2003, 09:05 AM
Well, it WAS my scale, I am not down that much, I knew it was too good to be true. Fact is I am not dropping hardly at all, my scale says I haven't lost anything this week yet. I usually weigh on Friday morning. I am all discouraged again because I am not cheating at all. What am I doing wrong? My dh is losing still.

Yellow Rose: Thanks for the recipe.

Miata: We have a barbeque place here that does smoked tri tip and it is to die for.

maemae and acw: A belated welcome to you, I am new also, and find this is the way to go, just not having great results to start with. Guess my body is adapting.

Have a physical this morning, glad to have the opportunity to talk to the doc about all this.

Have a great day all.

Solly
01-08-2003, 09:06 AM
Happy WIW :wave:

Sure hope the scale has been good to everyone. I realize not everyone has been back OP for a full week yet.

I was down 2 lbs this am. Of course was hoping for more (aren't we always). Never satisfied. I would be happy if I could continue to lose 2 lbs each week.


Gator, I find if I don't have some protein at breakfast, I am starving by 10 am. If I have oatmeal and fruit, I think about food all day. Granted I do put Splenda on it, maybe that is the trigger. Maybe put some meat with the pancakes and see if that helps. On you Sunday gatherings, just tell the people you are on SB and ask them to help you stay OP. That way if you cheat it will be in front of all those who know you shouldn't and it might keep you straight.

Toni, don't be jealous of my numbers, I believe you were lower than me awhile back. You will catch up very soon. We will be neck and neck again. Did you notice in the new book about the sugar grams being raised from 3 to 5? What do you think about it?

VR, No if it were this weekend, I would be a maniac. Heck I am already and we have 4 months to go.

Tranquil, get better girl. This has gone on way to long. That's kids for you, wiat until school starts to get sick.

ACW, remember that pyramid is for kids. OUr stary carbs is 3 not 6-10.

Monet, Sorry to hear about the inflammation. Guess it came from the mono. Man I hate that you don't get to go to Orlando. How disappointing. Feel better. What a mean trick for the Dr to put his foot on the scale. I wouldn't think that was funny.

Melf, good to hear your DD is ready to move. You all will have a ball in Orlando. I'm so jealous.

Zanne, it was good to hear from you. Sounds like you have been very busy. Sorry the scale is up. Hopefully it is water and will come back down quickly. Keep doing what is right and you will see if fall. I bet you do look good. Isn't it a good feeling to like what you see in the mirror. Keep up the good work.

Quilter, Hello. We have missed you. So glad you decided to come back. Hey the wagon is full but there is always room for one more. I sure look forward to seeing you post again.

Deb, Of course we understand when you can't get the computer. Darn kids. You will just have to dedicate your walk to your GA and walk in her memory. It would be what she would want anyway. Hope she is peaceful.

Gracious, it is horrible having to lose those same pounds twice, but we don't learn. I'm sure gonna try this time not to do that. It's not worth it.

Solshine, Heck the board will be dead on Friday with all of you girls partying. Some people can be so narrow minded. I'm glad you stood your ground with that lady.

Hope to see some big losses today.

Jackie
257/165/145
10-10-01

Mom2Marsh
01-08-2003, 09:20 AM
GOOD MORNING ALL! What a beautiful day it is! Preschool starts back today! Marshall goes to the part-time preschool run by the church I work at, so I get to spend my lunch break with him. Nothing lifts my spirits quite like a 30 minute toddler-fix in the middle of the day. :D

Did my weigh-in this morning and I've lost 5 of my 7 "holiday-pounds". Woo-hoo! Feeling good!

I know Friday is funnies day, but thought some of the other ladies might appreciate this one with all the discussions of churches and food...

Three men die and arrive at the gates of heaven. St. Peter greets them there, "Welcome, gentlemen! In order to enter heaven you must present a symbol of your faith."

The first man is Jewish. He steps forward with some Matzo bread. "Here is the unleavened bread that we eat at Passover." He says as he hands it so St. Peter.

"Thank you and welcome," Peter replies as he swings open the gates and allows the man to enter.

The second man then steps forward. "I'm Catholic, so I've brought a rosary that I've used to help guide my prayers."

"Thank you and welcome also," As Peter opens the gates for the second man.

Finally Peter turns to the third and final man. The man steps forward and excitedly says, "I'm a Baptist and I brought a covered dish!"

(Feel free to insert denomination of choice! I'm a Baptist, so it always struck me as perfect!)

--Kat
205/183/130

GatorGal
01-08-2003, 10:13 AM
Monet-- I HATE it that you won't be coming. :(
I really identify with some of the things you write about, and was so looking forward to meeting you.
I, too, take thyroid meds. Synthroid. I've been on it not quite a year but the dr. has had to work to get the dosage right. I'm on .75 mg right now and have a test scheduled in 4 months to see if it is right. I've gradually moved up from .44 mgs. I'm wondering if this thyroid thing is at the base of my weight problems and having difficulty losing. My DH can drop 10 pounds in 2 or 3 months, but I'm lucky if I do a pound a month. I also have to take calcium and meds for that, so it has thrown my pill schedule out of whack. I can't take the calcium when I take the thyroid, so take it at noon and at night now, waiting 4 hours after I take the thyroid. You must have a neat guy for a doctor! Sense of humor, eh?

Jack-K--thanks for the reminder about the protein for breakfast. I bet that is it. I was thinking about food starting about 10:30, and I did not have any protein for breakfast except for the little amount of cottage cheese in the pancakes. Next week I'll eat differently and see if it makes a difference.
Sol, celery and carrot sticks just don't hold their own when compared with snickers bars or other goodies like that. The stuff they have at the clinic for snacks are my absolute weakness. It's like they took a list of the stuff I "die for" and went out and bought it. So, I'm gonna have to rethink how I'm gonna handle this. I have several options: 1. quit the job, 2. voice my problem to the staff, 3. suffer and don't go near the kitchen there, 4. take such a good snack that I will prefer it against my "favorites." It all reminds me of Gollum in the Lord of the Rings movies. Those foods are my "precious."

Mom--Loved your joke. How true!!! There is scripture that says something to the effect that if you are doing something to cause someone else to stumble with what they want to do right (example: eating correctly) you are committing a sin. Even if you are not doing anything illegal or bad, if you cause someone else to do something they know is wrong for them, it is a sin. I think so often Christians don't think about the food issue very much in relation to this principle.

Well, we are getting the new washing machine delivered this morning, and they just called to say it is on its way. So will sign off.

Oh, BTW, ACW, glad you found the website for the GI. I knew many of the foods were brands that were specific for your part of the world. I was unfamiliar with some of them, especially the cereals, so was hoping you would find them familiar.

Fillise
01-08-2003, 10:22 AM
CONFESSION! I went out and bought a new scale this weekend--I really enjoyed the vacation from the monster--but I'm paying for it. I've gained a lot of weight since last summer--I can't even bring myself to tell you how much, but I got away from sensible eating during the campaign and through Christmas. Anyway, I've lost 2 lbs since Saturday. I'll start posting numbers again when I get back to my low--and that will be awhile.

I ate supper early last night (for me) and was through by 7:30. At 11:00 I was about to starve (but didn't eat or drink anything), but when I got up this morning I felt bloated and stuffed. Go figure.

Mom2Marsh, Gracious, and Gator: Glad to hear that I am not the only one that has to deal with the church sweets! Maybe we can hold each other up through the "good intentions" of our church members!

Quilter--good to hear from you! Don't get back on the scale--trust me it is waaaaaay traumatic! :o

Deb--still think about you and your aunt. She certainly has a strong will to live! Looking forward to hearing from you when you have time to sit down and post!

Monet--your DR sounds positively evil. I'd have to hurt mine if he did that!:lol: Sorry you can't make the trip! I know from the tempramental cars. I went to the grocery store the other night and when I came out I had no headlights! I had to drive home with the right beams on (and only had one working then). Got new ones yesterday.

I actually got the the gym yesterday!!!!!!

I'm heading over to the recipe board to post the bread recipe.

I hope everyone has a great Op day!

Susan

Trishaloo
01-08-2003, 10:45 AM
Wow the board is really hopping these days. That's great. This will be quick as I'm at work and have so much to do before I leave. Right now I'm on hold with a travel agent booking a cruise for my boss. In addition to my regular duties it seems I'm his personal concierge as well. Oh well. He's really a great guy and this is just one of those little things I do for him that keeps him happy. Boy, I just re-read that and if you took that out of context it wouldn't sound too good, would it.

WIW-Well, I'm still holding my own, but I know a lot of it is water from TOM. I've not been drinking enough water but eating has been good and I've been going to Curves so I'm not going to get discouraged and just keep doing what I've been doing. I made an awesome pork roast last night for dinner with green beans and a roasted sweet potato.

Gotta run. I've got a lot to finish up today before I can leave. These people actually expect me to work. Don't they know I have a trip to get ready for?

Everybody have a great day.

Trish

Toni48
01-08-2003, 11:30 AM
Woopie I'm doing the happy dance..... I lost 5lbs. this week. Thats the start I needed. I'm on my way gals. Only 3 more holiday lbs. to get off and then on my way down. Ah life is good this morning... We're going to have a beautiful day before the cold front so I'm going to enjoy it...Maybe I'll get over to the campground to walk today even though I just did my treadmill.

Debilli- Aw we'll miss you here at WIW but I'm sure you'll have lots of news next time you post...Prayers for your aunt...

acw- You sound very determined and I wish you good luck. Just take a day at a time and pretty soon it becomes easy and natural..

Monet- I'm so glad your chest pains were the infection and not your heart. That had to be very scarey... I hate you're having so much trouble with your health and hope you get lined out this month. What a stinker that doctor was to put his foot on the scale!!! Heres hopeing the medicine works....So sorry you're not going to make it to Florida with the rest of the girls. Join us "we're so sorry we don't get to go"

Melf- Wow a 12 hour shift, I'm sure you're beat. Yippee for you that the mobile home has gotten there. You're on the way to having your own home back...

Zanne- Sorry your weigh in wasn't that great but maybe next week you'll be in for a big one. Good to see you posting..

The Quilter- Well there you are. Please come back and start posting again. Sure have missed you...

gracious- Hope you're still on the mend. And you're getting some rest..

Solshine- Good for you sticking up for what you believe. I admire that in a person...

sweetbeater- Don't get discouraged.... Thats where a food journal comes in. Have you drank enough water? Is it time for TOM? Are you eating to many starchy carbs.... Hang in there girlfriend and don't give up!!! We all have weeks like this..

Jack-K- Wow 2 lbs. is great.. Yep hopefully I'll catch up with ya.. I sure did notice about the 5grams instead of 3, I guess a person might try that once in awhile and see if they still lose as good. If I have the choice I'll go for the 3 cause I'm scared of changeing the plan...

Mom2Marsh- Way to go gal..... You did soooo good this week. We can do this!!!!!

Gatorgal- Howdy to you....

Fillise- You're posting and thats the good thing and to lose 2 lbs. is wonderful. Bet you keep it up now. Its a great time of year to get it going again. We can do it...

Trishloo- Good for you holding your own, sometimes thats a good thing. Next week you'll have a good drop.

Well I'd better get to making breakfast. Seem to be running late this morning.. Will check back in awhile...

213/166/130

Quivondra
01-08-2003, 11:53 AM
Thanks for all the good lucks! You guys really are the greatest. Went to the gym yesterday and really worked up a sweat. Got TOM today so I'm not going to the gym..well, maybe I'll get the strength somehow..
Anyway two weeks ago the scale said 157 with my clothes on..two weeks later and butt naked I'm hovering at 150. When TOM ends, maybe I'll even be a little lighter!

Back to the grind!

Melf
01-08-2003, 11:58 AM
Toni, you're really doing great. You Go Girl!

Fellise, sorry to hear that you've been gaining. Now get back to work. You can do it!

I had to go check on dd's trailer. They are there to finish getting the siding & roof done & other things. My db & dbil plan to get the water, sewage & wiring done this week end, so things are looking good. DD is so excited & so are the boys. They are sooo ready to be back in their own home that they went yesterday evening even though it was dark. They brought an extension cord & a lamp, hooked up to the outside box (she still has her electricity hooked up from before) & they vacuumed the carpet. :lol: The 3 yo would turn it back on every time she would turn it off cause he wanted to vacuum. :lol:

Anyway, let me get back to packing! Also need to wash some clothes & get a few other things done today. Will check back in later!

174/137/135

CountryMom4Him
01-08-2003, 12:35 PM
I am one happy lady today. Being faithful to my eating, water and exercise has paid off. I lost three pounds this week. :) 156 It's been really helpful to come to the board and know that others are going through the same things with the holiday indescrections. It's also encouraging to see everyone getting back OP and seeing positive results.

VR....thank you.

Sabrina....hey woman! I sure hope you are feeling better today. Tell Wendy howdy. I miss chatting with ya'll.

Monet...I would have freaked if the scales did that to me. :) Mean...ole funny doctor. :D I hope you are able to get your car fixed soon.

Melf...horray on your daughter getting her new home. As nice as it is to visit mom I'm sure she will love getting back into routine.

Zanne..hang in there. A week or two back OP and you'll start seeing great results.

Quilter...Welcome back stranger! Sure missed seeing your post.

Sol Shine...thank you. I feel like I went so far and stopped. But not this year. Back OP strict and more decicated thatn the last 8 months or so. Prayerfully I will actually reach goal this year.

Sweetbeater....hang in there. Those scales are not the only way to tell how awesome you are doing...Go by your clothes...your mood...your skin...how well you feel. The scales will catch up with all the other great things happening.

Jack-K WTG 2 pounds is great! That adds up to 8-10 pounds a month. Beats the alternatives. :)

M2M WTG Great loss.

Susan...Hang in there. Now that you have the scales you will be able to keep better tabs on your weight. Two pounds is a great start...you WILL lose those extra pounds.

Trish...I was having the same problem with not enough water. I got myself one of those 16.9 ounce store waters. I make sure I drink at least 4 of them every day...even when I don't feel like drinking. It helps a lot to have them handy.

Toni..WTG

Gotta scoot. Be blessed and be encouraged. Gain...loss...or staying the same...remember you are still running the race...you are not defeated.

Love,
Crystle

235/156/140-135

miata1997
01-08-2003, 12:52 PM
Hello every one!!!

Yesterday was good,except I ended up eating out with dh late last night, I ate some potatoes that were off plan, didn't plan on it, but I am back on the wagon today...Next time we go out, I will bring an apple with PB and just order coffee. I just got to get him to eat dinner at dinner time.. My dh is a werid eater..He never feels like eting till 11:00 at night...I did end up going back to Curves yesterday to continue where I had left off. I was hoping to get in 2 complete rounds but because of work, I only got in 1 1/2...


Kim:::: You a QUILTER???? So am I!!!! What are your projects now??? I have to do a vegetable block to show my artsy fartsy quilt group since we are doing a quilt called: "Eat your Veggies" I am doing a brocoli, or an eggplant..I am off for the next 2 nights...I also have been doing easy baby quilts for all these kids that are getting born around me...

Trish: Do you like Curves??? Do you go everyday..I can't figure out if that is good or bad, do my muscels need to rest a day between?? I really like going everyday but I kinda miss my other arerobic machines you know like the elcipsor (between a stair stepper and bike..it is an awsome machine) . I was thinking about going to the college to there fitness lab to get some more arobic ...To VR: Curves you just start where there is an opening..I think they encourage you do start on aplatform. I have never had to wait to start the program..Also if your Curves is new, the hours will be strange, but as they get new members they are going to realzied they can not fit all the new members at thoes hours. Mine started out just like yours, limited hours. Now they are open from 5:30 am to 7:00 pm...So just hang in there, the hours will change..Ours is also opened on Sat

Is there someone here on SB tht lives near Livinston Texas??? I was trying to go back and look but didn't find what I was looking for..If do, is there a RV park called Escapee's??? My sister is going to move there after she sells her house in SAc. isn't that weird??? I told her I would help her drive her car to Texas, at least that was the plan, but I just realized my job is making me sell back my vacation time to them, isn't that awfuL? they only allow you to keep 56 hours. I am mad, anyway I might not have enough time but I do know one thing, some day I will visit her, esp during Nov when the quilt show is there in Houston, so who every you are..maybe we can meet tsome day..!!

Well better start my day, you know do the housework thing..Got lots of laundry to do..My goal today is to get All my laundry done and put away...

bye now

Kathy/Miata

Ellen
01-08-2003, 01:01 PM
I don't have much time...will post to everyone later!

GATOR: I read your post to me with interest. I can not imagine why your doctor is making you wait four months between evaluations for your thyroid. Four weeks is sufficient. What is your TSH? New studies show it should be lower then previously thought...below 3.0. Thyroid problems DEFINITELY contribute to your slow weight loss! Mine is almost non existent due to my thyroid! If you do not see some improvement, you might want to try talking to your doctor about trying Armour Thyroid. It has T4 and T3 in it. For some people, like me, the problem is not the amount of thyroid hormone the thyroid puts out, but converting it from T4 to the active T3. I take a special formulary of T3 in addition to Unithroid, which is similar to Synthroid. If your doctor is not willing to listen, or try a different course of treatment, consider finding another doctor. I went through three before I found mine. And while he may play a mean trick on me, like putting his foot on the scale, I have to say I just love him to death! And I am sure he loves me too. He is willing to listen, try new things, and he likes it when I do research and have ideas on what to try for my care. Everyone with thyroid problems needs a doctor like that. So few really know anything about the thyroid! I am pleased mine does. I also gave him Mary Shomon's book, Living Well With Hypothyroidism, which he read. I get pretty angry at the established medical doctors who are not willing to learn...and think if they throw Synthroid at their patients, that cures them. Keep me posted on what is going on with your treatment. If worse comes to worse, you will just have to come to Atlanta and see my doctor! You two will get along great! If you are Gatorgal, he has to be Gatordoc! He is a BIG Gator fan!

maemae
01-08-2003, 01:33 PM
Good day to all.............I have to say today is a BEAUTIFUL day here in Texas (Houston)....Makes me want to go walking....Miata, Countrymom is from the Livingston area.....Beautiful area of the state by the way.....I wanted to know if any of the products off the Atkins diet are legal......i.e. the shakes or the chocolate bars....I was at Randall's and saw them and looked and saw no sugar for the chocolate bar.....Any help would be appreciated...Im still hanging in there on day 3.....Had real bad headaches monday and last night.....But today I feel better.....Take Care

VR
01-08-2003, 01:48 PM
Quick good morning to everyone..

Miata... thanks for the info.

Last night I didn't eat anything after 7pm. I'm really working on that because I really believe it's my biggest problem!! And how easy is that really... I don't have to think about what I'm going to eat, I just need to keep my mouth shut!!



Gotta run...

Toni48
01-08-2003, 02:04 PM
Maemae- Those headaches can be sugar withdrawals. It takes a couple of weeks to detox... So hang in there.

Quivondra- WTG on the weight. Oh my gosh you're just ten lbs. from your goal and will surely make your Feb. goal......

Melf- Only two lbs. from your goal... Wowwie.. How neat about you DD. Thats so great for her and her children.. Get to packing!!!

CountryMom- Yippee for you, a great big three lbs... Be proud....

Miata- Well now you have a whole new week in front of you... Just keep taking that one day at a time...

Monet- Just a big howdy!!

Trishaloo
01-08-2003, 02:05 PM
Miata - I just love Curves. I try to get in 3 days a week and then walk or something between times. The woman at mine said that 3 times is really optimal. She said that the results between going 3 times a week or going more frequently were really minimal. Meliris, who does a lot of weight training, also mentioned that your muscles really need that time in between to rest. The first month I went, I lost almost 6 inches. I didn't measure last month because of the holidays, but I'm anxious to measure again. My clothes feel like I've lost more inches.

Maybe we could meet up at the quilt show next year. My neighbor went to the one this year with her mother and sisters. She's my walking buddy and it took 3 nights of our walks to tell me about the show. It seemed amazing. I've never been but I'd love to see it. I don't quilt, but my grandmother always had a quilt frame hanging in her spare bedroom. I have a print of an old house with quilts hanging on the clothesline that really brings back some sweet memories.

Trish

heartmom
01-08-2003, 02:16 PM
Speaking of QUILTING, I had a lady online that made Boogie a quilt right before his surgery. It's beautiful and just the right size. While in the hospital, we got lots of comments on it. I think it's great that she does this for heart kids. She didn't ask for any money but I sent her a donation to help at least with the materials.

WIW- I have lost 5 1/2 of the 8 holiday pounds. I'm at 214.5 today. I hope the scale is right since I'm using a manual instead of my digital. The kids broke it! So only 2 1/2 more pounds and I'll be back on track! WOOHOO!

236/214.5/165
HW:270
236 is the SB start weight

preciosa615
01-08-2003, 02:20 PM
Hello all,

I am new to the boards, but not SB. I started in April of last year and lost 60 pounds..... unfortunately for me, I lost my way through the holidays and gained 10 of them back....

The good news is, I have been back on since the 1st and 2 of those pounds are gone.

I am so glad I found you guys, my friends and family still don't understand what it is I am doing and do everything they canto sabotage it. i even gave my mother the book to read, but she is adamant that I am hurting myself regardless of how much better I look and feel.

Anyway, I am looking forward to joining in on the discussions and learning a new trick or two.

acw
01-08-2003, 02:34 PM
Good Morning:)

Just a quick hi and then I'm taking the kids away to the country for the day. It's to save my sanity really so they won't drive me up the wall! I'll make you all jealous and tell you it's going to be around 20degc ( not sure what that is in F) I know you'll all get me back when it's winter here!!

WIW. The first for me so a starting point of 321. I sat down this morning and worked out a mini goal and an end goal so I've got something to work towards.

Must go now baby needs feeding and things to pack up before we head for the hills!

Will post later. I hope everyone has a great day!

Anna

Solly
01-08-2003, 02:59 PM
Man, you go to lunch and come back and the board is full.

I'm really6 having trouble keeping up. It is such a good feeling so see so many SB gals here.

Gator, I have always heard thyroild affected weight loss so maybe if they get yours regulated then you will start losing better. Men always lose quicker. Gotta hate that.

Marsh, cute joke. WTG on your loss. See it works.

Fillise, I had to get on the scale. I was hoping it would shock me into eating right again. Sometimes if we face that number we can control it from getting any higher sooner. They will come off. Hang in there. WTG on getting to the gym.

Trish, I know what you mean about doing "boss" things. I'm always making reservations for mine. They really don't appreciate it, they think it's part of the job. Hang in there, if you are eating and exercising you will see results. Keep doing what you are doing.

Toni, How wonderful for you. :clap: I know that was the motivation you needed. Come on we are going down!!!

Quiv, Wow 7 lbs in 2 weeks is great. You will get to that mini goal before your set time.

Melf, it sounds like everyone is ready for the move. That is good.

Country, I'm doing the :dance: for you too. 3 lbs is awesome. It really does help to come back here and read everyone's ups and downs. I'm glad we are getting back to being losers.

Miata, gotta say no to those potatoes. Theya re a big no-no. You are doing great with your exercising. If you have to go eat with dh, just get coffee or something to drink. I couldn't imagine eating that late and then going to bed with a full stomach.

MaeMae, the headaches are from sugar withdrawl. You are just detoxing. Another reason not to cheat. You don't want to go through that again.

VR, good for you not eating after 7:00. It will get easier. Sometimes it really depends on what you have for dinner. If I have a really light dinner, then I am really hungry around 8:30. I really believe it is all in my head anyway.

Heartmom, that is so neat about the quilt for Boogie. Yeah for you. Only 2 1/2 to go. You can do it.

Preciosa615, Welcome to our board. It is a wonderful group here. Got to keep a firm stand with those people who try to sabatoge you. My goodness they should see how well you have done and be proud. 52 lbs is awesome. Keep up the good work.

ACW, mini goals are good. Also try to reward yourself when you lose, say 10 lbs. I did that and it really helped. It helps not to get overwhelmed with the big pictures. I had 110 to lose when I started. Now I have 20 to go. See it is possible. You can do this.

Gotta getsome work done here.

Jackie
257/165/145
10-10-01

Quivondra
01-08-2003, 03:01 PM
Boring day.. had a heathly lunch though! Good to see everyone losing the weight though! Boyfriend is sick and I haven't been able fall asleep at night. I'm completely drained after taking care of him and lack of sleep..not to mention TOM! Ugh..only 3 hours left of work.

acw- 20 degrees C is equal to 68 F. The southeners wouldn't be jealous, but I sure am!!! It's freezing in New York. Keep up the good work and you'll get to your goal in no time!!

Toni - I think those last 7 pounds were water weight. They flew off as I stopped eating so much crap. The next 2 or 3 will be easy..but I have a heck of a time getting below 145.

maemae
01-08-2003, 03:03 PM
So I now know the reason for the headaches and like Jack-k said I definatley dont want to do this again.......

I know the Lindt chocolate is alright for a treat but what about the things from the Atkins diet.....I saw the shakes and chocolate bars and thought about that instead.....It said 0g sugar but had something about Sugar Alcohol but I also saw that it had Splenda in it........Also what about there meal replacements in a can? I looked at Slim-Fast (OMG sooooooooooo much sugar) but Atkins ones didnt have any?

Melf
01-08-2003, 04:02 PM
Had to go into town to meet dd for lunch. We had the chef salad. Hit the spot. Also went to the bank. I had all but forgotten that I needed money for my trip:? Packing is coming along pretty good, just having a hard time deciding what to bring.

Thought I'd try to respond to a few posts while I rest :D

maemae, My middle DD use to live in Pasadena, but moved out to Dayton a couple of years ago. It wasn't long after a window blew out of their house in the middle of the night when a tank exploded at a nearby refinery. She likes the country living much better. :) I like the Atkins caramel nut bar. It's just like a Snickers but without all the added sugars. I figured if it was good for Atkins, it should be ok if eaten in moderation. I may have one once a week or so when the need hits me, but surely not on a daily basis.

acw, hope you & the kids have a great time in the country. Sounds like a nice relaxing time.

preciosa615, 60 lbs is a great number. Don't kick yourself too hard for the holiday lbs. You sound as though you are definitely in control of things & heading in the right direction again. Welcome to our group. So glad you found us. This is a great WOE & also a great place to be for encouragement & support.

Heartmom, you're doing so well to get those extra lbs off. You go girl! You'll soon be back in the loosing track.

Lyn, Trish, are you bringing dress clothes or just casual/jeans? Guess I should bring one dressy outfit for Sat. night? I'm afraid I always pack too much because of being unable to decide.

It's almost time for me to go pick up the boys at daycare, so I'd best get back to my task of packing. Decisions, decisions.

Rosalie
01-08-2003, 04:03 PM
I know it is a little late but I just got back from my vacation in Orlando on Sunday and have been busy since.

We had a great time although the weather was not as warm as I would have liked. But it was definitely better than what we left behind and returned to here. The kids loved Disney, as well as SeaWorld and Busch Gardens. We had two visits to Busch Gardens. The first time it was very busy and had long line ups for the rides but on the second visit it was much less crowded so was more enjoyable.

I can't believe how busy the board is these days. It's good to see lots of newbies also some oldies returning.

I gained 5 pounds while away. I was surprised it wasn't more as I really hogged out on the french fries and the occasional baked potato. Not to forget the baked potato chips which taste so much better than the regular ones. It's just as well that they are not available here as I might be out searching for them. Anyway I am back op since returning home and have already lost 1.5 of those pounds. Weighed in at 202.5 this morning. I was down to 199 before my holiday so hoping I can break that barrier again soon.

Monet and Mel so sorry you are not able to meet up with the gang in Orlando this time. You would of had a great time. I have happy memories of our get-together in March last year.

BOB - Sorry that you too will not be going.

VR and Quilter - Welcome back. It is good to see you posting again and jumping back on the wagon.

Melf - Glad to hear that your daughter and family are getting settled into their new home. I am sure it was a strain having such a houseful for so long even though I am sure you enjoyed their company.

Sol - Good for you standing up to that person on the doggie board. She sounds very ignorant. Thanks for the compliment. I am certainly no expert on the GI although I have read quite a few books and articles on the subject.

Debbie - Hope your aunts end is peaceful.

Well I was planning on a longer post but I have spent some time doing a search for some GI lists and have now run out of time. I found a few websites that some of you might be interested in checking out. They are all glucose based (i.e glucose = 100 which is what is used in the SB book).

http://members.tripod.com/pvdw/glycemic_index_lists.htm -


http://www.melrosebaptist.org/fit4a.html - This looks like the original Mendosa list


http://www.geocities.com/nk_gr/diabetes/glycemic_index_list.htm - Same as above.

I was hoping to find some more information and lists on the Glycemic Load but most of what I came across was a bit confusing. Will keep looking.

Sorry I can't respond to you all but I am so far behind and the board is so busy.

I have to think about getting dinner ready. Need to eat a little early to-day as I will be off to badminton this evening.

Bye for now.

BOBatwork
01-08-2003, 04:07 PM
man asked his wife what she'd like for her birthday. "I'd love to be six again," she replied.

On the morning of her birthday, he got her up bright and early and off they went to a
local theme park. What a day!

He put her on every ride in the park: the Death Slide, the Screaming Loop, the Wall of Fear, everything there was!

Wow! Five hours later she staggered out of the theme park, her head reeling and her stomach upside down.

Right to a McDonald's they went, where her husband ordered her a Big Mac along with extra fries and a refreshing chocolate shake.!

Then it was off to a movie -- the latest epic, and hot dogs, popcorn, Pepsi Cola and M&Ms.

What a fabulous adventure!

Finally she wobbled home with her husband
and collapsed into bed.

He leaned over and lovingly asked, "Well, dear, what was it like being six again?"
!
One eye opened. "You idiot, I meant my dress size."

The moral of this story: Even when a man is listening, he's still gonna get it wrong.

BOB

music teach
01-08-2003, 04:23 PM
Well the sun is shining here in NE Texas but it's a dismal day as far WIW is concerned. I finally took the plunge and stepped on the scale and found that I've gained back 7 lbs from Thanksgiving and Christmas. :eek: But I did good yesterday and have done really well today so maybe I'm back on track. The article relating refined carbs and pancreatic cancer was an eye opener. I find myself thinking about that whenever I'm tempted. For those who are new to the board, my mom was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer last spring.

PRECIOSA: Welcome to the board. WOW! 60 lbs is great.:cb:

HEART: WTG! You'll do it!

MIATA: Another quilter here.:D I actually haven't done much quilting. But I have pieced quite a few. My MIL usually does the quilting for me. This summer I tackled my first hand quilting job and it turned out OK. It wouldn't win any prizes but I had fun doing it. I'm hooked now and have another project in the works.

I had good intentions on getting to most of you today but I'm not gonna make it. This has taken all day.:shrug: I have after school practice with some kids who will be in any minute. I'll try to catch up tomorrow.

Melf
01-08-2003, 04:29 PM
Rosalie, so glad to hear that you're finally home safe & sound. Glad to hear that you enjoyed your holiday! Now get to work on those 5 lbs. You're in good company to do it! :D

BOB, :LOL: Loved the :lol: And you're right about men still getting it wrong. ;)

Tina, sorry to hear that it's a dready WIW. We just have to re-group. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off & get back up on the wagon with the rest of us. ;)

sugarless
01-08-2003, 04:45 PM
I am having such a hard time jumping back on the SB wagon. Two questions.
1st question:
I am having sugar cravings so bad. I tried to curb with sugarfree candies or cookies but that isn't working and besides as I'm sure some of you know the terrible side effects. What can I do to fight these cravings? I have lost before but the holidays killed the control I had.
Second question:
My work scheduled changed and I need help on trying to figure out when I should be eating lunch or what I should eat when.
I begin work at 7am ( I usally eat protein for breakfast around 6am)
1st 15min break is at 8:15
Lunch is from 10:30 to 11:30
2nd 15min break is at 2:15
I end work at 4pm
Unfortunately I cannot change my schedule at all since I am a customer service rep on the phone.
Can someone please help me.
:(

Solly
01-08-2003, 04:50 PM
maemae, don't know anything about the items from the Atkins diets, but sugar alcohols will give you the runs. Slim fast is a no-no. Why would you wnat to drink those instead of eating real food?

Melf, still packing? Just throw it all in there. From the sounds of things planned, you better bring a plastic rain suit. I think it is going to be messy, pillow fights, food fights, etc.

Rosalie, glad to see you are back and had a great time. Don't worry about those vacation pounds, they will disappear before you know it.

Bob, cute joke.

Music, If you mom had pancreatic cancer, then the more reason for you to do SB. I think facing that scale is good. It shocks back into being good. Those extra pounds will come off quickly and you will be ont he downward path before you know it. Remember, we are ALL getting to goal this year.

Jackie

maemae
01-08-2003, 04:50 PM
Hi Sugarless,

I'm also new at this.....Today I found chocolate bar from Atkins called Endulge.........Believe it or not it was great......I'm just getting over the detox headaches and am feeling much better.

maemae
01-08-2003, 04:53 PM
Jack-k...........thanks for the word of advise about sugar alcohols.....i was just looking at the drinks from a smoothie standpoint..........sometimes it hard in the morning to get going with 2 small kids......lol

Fillise
01-08-2003, 05:04 PM
Goodness! I'm glad to see everyone on the board this week!

So far so good today. I had some black bean soup and a small salad for lunch. It was good.

Music--hop on the wagon! A lot of us goofed up over the holidays!

BOB--Ha Ha! Heck, I'd love to be even 12 again.

Marie--Glad you are home safely and that you had a good time. Just get back to the plan and you'll be fine! I found a site on the glycemic load yesterday. It is a pdf document but it lists the GL and GL of lots of foods. Very interesting.

Glycemic Load (http://www.lifelonghealth.org/mhc_home/pdf_docs/GLYCEMIC_INDEX.pdf)

According to this the GI for chocolate cake is 38. The GL is 20. What's up with that? According to last month's Prevention, anything with a GL of 20 or above is considered high. 10-19 is moderate, and below 10 is low.

Anyway, those of you who are curious might want to take a look at it.

Who asked about Adkins? I can't handle the taste of the Adkins bars and have not tried their other mixes.

For the new folks--don't be fooled by some of the research you see that shows M & Ms with a low GI as well as some other candies. They are still loaded with refined sugars and you really want to get that poison out of your system. Chocolate with more than 60% cocoa is fine. It is verybittersweet and is an aquired taste, but there are some health benefits to dark chocolate so I
will have a small piece of a Lindt bar or a Schiffenderger bar from time to time. But you will find that the longer you stay away from sugar, the less you will crave chocolate and other sweets. I would never have beleived it but it is true. I also suggest going through detox completly (about 2-3 weeks) to cleanse you system of the sugars and then see if you even want it.

OK gotta go back to work now.

Have a good afternoon and evening everyone!

Susan

linworthlady
01-08-2003, 05:24 PM
I just read all 9 pages of posts -- it sounds like everyone is getting back on the wagon. I am trying but am finding it soooo hard. I am trying very hard to make today day#1 of healthy eating. This board helps me get motivated.
It looks like the Orlando trip is this weekend. Have a great time--I know you all will. I want to hear all about it.

Rosalie
01-08-2003, 05:29 PM
Fillise - Thanks for that site for the GLYCEMIC LOAD. It's the best I have seen yet. I think it is good that it gives both the Glucose and Bread based GIs as well as the serving size AND carb content.

Marie.

adams
01-08-2003, 05:53 PM
Fillise,

I am having a hard time finding where the refined sugars are so bad. I mean from what I'm reading it's all about the insulin and the GI and GL are what you look at to get an idea there.

So I start looking at different GIs for different foods and they are low on a lot of foods even though sugar busters says to stay away from them. It is a little confusing to say the least.

It kind of goes like this:

(new sugar busters book)
Refined sugar is bad stay away from it, same with refined white flour. Why is it bad? It causes fast and high releases of insulin in the body which can be very bad for you (some mention of GI).

(more research)
Why do some of the foods they say stay away from have such low GI/GLs? What makes them bad if they don't cause massive insulin releases?

I just picked up The New Glucose Revolution book to try to clear some of the technicals up. I finished the new sugarbusters book this weekend.

Fillise
01-08-2003, 06:14 PM
Adams, I'm glad you asked that question. I've also struggled with that question. From all the reading I've done over the past few years plus my own experience this is what I've figured out.

Refined sugar is as addictive as cocaine (I'm not kidding here). Many, many folks on this board will attest to the withdrawal symptoms that we went through while we were getting the refined sugars out of our bodies. If you continue to eat refined sugars you will continue to crave them. And let's face it, most of us are here because we have not been able to consume small amounts of sugars. We overindulge.

A strong second reason is that calories from refined sugars are truly empty calories. Refined sugar has no nutritive value. If I eat foods containing natural sugars (e.g. fruit) then I am also getting vitamins and fiber--and the fructose does not do nearly the number on my blood sugar. Read Dufty's Sugar Blues for a discussion of why refined sugar is bad for you.

Refined flour is bad for the same reason--the grain has been so over processed that all of the nutrients and fiber have been removed. The body breaks it down more quickly and it is absorbed faster into the bloodstream. Whole grains have more of their natural nutrients and fibers--always a better choice.

Jeanie Brand-Miller has done much valuable research on the Glycemic index and the glycemic load, but she is still too hung up on dietary fat.

Hope this helps.

Susan

Rosalie
01-08-2003, 06:41 PM
Sugarless - If you are having such bad sugar cravings maybe you just aren't eating enough. You don't say what you eat at breakfast, just protein. Perhaps you just aren't eating enough to tide you over to your next meal/snack. Anyway I don't think it is a good idea to snack on sf candies or cookies. This will only increase your cravings. I think some nuts, a piece of cheese or some fresh fruit would be a better choice for a mid morning/afternoon snack. For lunch try to eat some protein, a piece of chicken would be a good choice, and some veggies and/or salad. You don't mention what starchy carbs you are eating. We should be having no more than 2 or three servings a day. Maybe you could have a slice of whole grain bread at lunch and add some oatmeal or other legal cereal at breakfast. Just my 2 cents worth.

If you posted a typical days menu maybe someone would be able to give you some other suggestions.

Gotta run.

Marie.

sugarless
01-08-2003, 06:56 PM
Here is a sample of what I eat in a day. Could you please let me know if I am eating enough.

Breakfast
Protien shake(yogurt, no sugar verylow carb protein powder and mix fruit blended together) Or a couple of slices of meat and cheese or sometimes a slice of bread w/PB&J

AM snack
A piece of fruit ( apple, orange, etc)

Lunch
salad and a piece of chicken and veggies

PM snack
Another piece of fruit

Dinner
I cook various SB chicken or turkey receipes and lots of veggies and a salad

Dessert
A piece of fruit or 1small piece of chocolate 85% cocoa
Everyones input is greatly appreciative

adams
01-08-2003, 07:06 PM
Susan,

Thanks for the quick reply! I like to get into the technical details of issues and "The New Glucose Revolution" looked like a book that would have some good technical info on GI/GL (hopefully it wasn't a waste of money on the purchase). The new Sugar Busters book is what alerted me to GI in the first place.

I will take a look at the Sugar Blues as well.

The whole thing seems to be important. Especially in light of the fact that we are finding it extremely difficult to find foods that have no added sugar. I am truly amazed at things with sugars in them.

All the chinese sauces we love for stir fry, Italian dressing, you name it sugar is added. All the stats about the problem in the sugar busters book really comes to light when you look at the added sugars in foods. I am reading in these forums that small amounts of sugars like below 2G per serving is acceptable sometimes which I think might have something to do with how hard it is to find foods without sugar added (at least ones people are used to).

Also, it appears it has to do with the "type" of sugar as well. I need to read up on all the different types of sugars and the names for them on labels.

Thanks again.

Debelli
01-08-2003, 07:51 PM
Evening All:wave:

My Aunt finally did pass away. I went to see her today and 45 minutes after I left, she died. Boy, she did hang in there, longer than anyone expected. Thankfully, she's out of pain now and in heaven, for sure. Her funeral is Sunday, the kids will go with my parents. I will run/walk in her memory at WDW.

Haven't had but a minute to skim the board VERY quickly, so can't address everyone individually, but want to make a couple points to things I did see.

NEWBIES If you haven't done so already, please post your BIO on the BIO BOARD so we can learn a bit more about you. The link is below:

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12056&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

Also, NEWBIES hope you don't mind a little bit of advice. I don't think it's a good idea, esp. at the beginning of this WOE to try and find an alternative for sweets such as Atkins bars, or SF chocolate. The idea of this WOE is to get the sugar out. One problem with SB that they surely didn't fix in the new version is about chocolate. Number one, they don't say, as Montignac does, that you shouldn't include it until maintenance, and they don't say how often either. The idea of getting the sugar out, well, what kind of sense does it make to eat chocolate from day one? Your body does NOT know the difference between real and fake sweets, your brain doesn't know that you are giving it false sugar and doesn't allow your body to detox, hence, you continue to have your sugar cravings. Unless you do this WOE 100% and allow your body to detox from the sugars, you'll continue to crave sugary junk. Please take my advice, don't eat that stuff, at least at the beginning of doing this WOE. If you allow your body to get it out of your system you won't crave it. I have a lot of"tips" but this is one of the most important.

Also, for those of you who are newer to the board, if you should ever want to chat on the phone, as I do with many of the gals on the board, you can e-mail me your telephone number. I have FREE NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS on my cellphone plan and would be happy to talk to you whenever. I've had the wonderful opportunity to meet so many people from the board, past and present (will be 23 total after this weekend) and have had the opportunity to talk to many more. Just wanted you to know that I'd love to include you as well:D

Okay, cheesecake is done, have to go to the oven, then try to do a few other things - I'm not ready - does that surprise ANYONE!

Will try to give a quick hello to you all in the morning!!

Keep the board hoppin' while I'm away!!!!!:D

Toodles

Deb

Debelli
01-08-2003, 07:55 PM
SUGARLESS, I don't know what you currently weigh, but unless you have just a bit to lose, it doesn't look like you're eating enough. PLUS, I'd tell you to STAY CLEAR OF THE CHOCOLATE at this point - just my humble opinion. Also, watch your fruit intake, depending on the amount of what you are eating, it could hamper you a bit. Remember, approx. 40% of your intake should be carbs, 2-3 starchy carbs. If you want, e-mail me with your current and goal weight and I can give you a bit of info.

Debelli@AOL.com

Debbie

Toni48
01-08-2003, 07:57 PM
Wow its hard to keep up with the board lately. I really need to keep posting and not lag behind. It was such a beautiful day here in Missouri that my DH and I went for a walk at the campground near here. Its our anniversary today so we've just kicked back and enjoyed the day.

Bob- Loved your joke and its soooo true....

Music Teach- Glad you got on the scale and got that nasty part over with. The holidays were a killer for me this year and one I hope not to repeat. So come on gal we can do it...

sugarless- So sorry you're having such a hard time. That happens to all of us if we get off program. Its darn hard to get back on and sometimes you have to take just one hour at a time. Be sure and get far away from the carbs. Drink lots of water and think positive. You can and will do it, you're stronger than you think. Just keep trying and trying and it will come. It takes about 2 weeks to get through detox. Then you're on your way....

Fillise- Hadn't thought of black bean soup for awhile. Need to get the stuff and make some that sounds awfully good... I liked your post about sugar... It really make one remember how bad sugar is for you.

linworthlady- Hope you made it through day 1. Just keep trying and you'll get it. Read the SB book again to give you some motivation. Or good to the Sugar Buster site and look at the sweettalk board. Keep posting lots.. We're all pulling for you...

Rosalie- Good to see you posting.. I wondered where you were.

adams- Hello there I don't guess we've met yet.

Well think I'm caught up again. LOL.... Have a great evening..

213/166/130

Debelli
01-08-2003, 07:59 PM
Here's a great site to check out if you haven't already about the GI & GL


http://www.health.harvard.edu/articlePrint.cfm?id=48

Glycemic Load, Diet, and Health
By: Harvard Women's Health Watch (Monday, 07-10-2002)

Glycemic Load, Diet, and Health The Glycemic Index for 100 Foods

Glycemic Load, Diet, and Health

Until recently, there was little question that the best approach to healthy eating was to follow official guidelines — such as the USDA Food Guide Pyramid — which emphasize carbohydrates as a way to discourage fat consumption. But this view of carbohydrates and fats is too simplistic. It might even contribute to the very conditions that we hope to avoid by eating a good diet in the first place, such as obesity, diabetes, and cardiovascular disease.

For one, not all fats are bad. In fact, certain fats are heart-healthy. In addition, not all carbohydrates act the same. Some are quickly broken down in the intestine, causing the blood sugar level to rise rapidly. Such carbohydrates have a high glycemic index (GI).

Because rapidly rising blood sugar levels have various adverse effects, we advise eating plenty of fruits and non-starchy vegetables and few high-GI carbohydrates, such as refined grains and starches. We also favor a food pyramid where fruits and nonstarchy vegetables, not refined grains, occupy the bottom tier. The purpose of this advice is to reduce overall glycemic load (GL). GL is a relatively new way to assess the impact of carbohydrate consumption that takes GI into account but gives a fuller picture than does GI alone.



GL Reflects Actual Carbohydrate Burden

A GI value tells you only how rapidly a particular carbohydrate turns into sugar. It doesn’t tell you how much of that carbohydrate is in a serving of a particular food. You would need to know both things to understand a food’s effect on blood sugar. That is where GL comes in. The carbohydrate in a carrot, for example, has a high GI. But there isn’t a lot of it, so a carrot’s glycemic load is relatively low. Calculating GL allows researchers to better relate carbohydrate intake to its health effects.

Researchers at Harvard, including Harvard Women’s Health Watch advisory board member JoAnn E. Manson, M.D., have closely examined the relationships among carbohydrates and heart disease and diabetes in women. The Nurses’ Health Study, for example, found that women with the highest dietary GL have double the risk for heart disease when compared to those with the lowest GL.

Why It’s Not As Simple as GI

The glycemic index originated as a research tool. It assigns a numerical value to a food indicating how much and how rapidly 50 grams of its carbohydrate content will raise blood-sugar levels, compared to 50 grams of a reference food (glucose or white bread). The reference food is given an arbitrary value of 100, and the GI value of a particular food is expressed as a percentage of that value. Many things contribute to the GI of a given food, including its fat and fiber content and how much it’s been processed.

But carbohydrates differ in quantity, as well as in GI ranking, from one kind of food to another. The shortcoming of GI values is evident when you compare foods of different carbohydrate densities. For example, the GI of a baked potato is 121% (assuming white bread is the standard reference food). This has earned the potato, which is largely carbohydrate, a place on the “avoid” list in publications and on Web sites promoting the GI approach to food choices.

The GI of carrots, as noted earlier, is also high: 131%. But this unfavorable GI rating is based on the blood-sugar effect of eating 50 grams of carbohydrate from carrots — the amount contained in a pound and a half of them — which few people would consume in one sitting. A serving of carrots, therefore, just doesn’t have much carbohydrate, so its impact on blood sugar is much less than that of a serving of potato.

Avoiding carrots because of their GI ranking would be a big mistake, particularly given all the vitamins and minerals they contain and the low GL of each serving (see “How to Calculate GL,” below). The GI of potatoes, on the other hand, is not a misleading measure because potatoes are carbohydrate-dense. Their GL is also fairly high.

How to Calculate GL

GL is the amount of carbohydrate in a serving of food multiplied by that food’s GI. Thus, a ½ cup serving of carrots (which has 8 grams of carbohydrate) has a glycemic load of about 10 (8 * 131%, or 1.31 = 10.48).

As reported recently in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (March 2001), Nurses’ Health Study researchers — aided by blood samples and a food-frequency questionnaire — used GL measures to assess the impact of carbohydrate consumption on 280 postmenopausal women. They found that high-GL diets (and, by extension, high GI foods and greater total carbohydrate intake), correlated with lower HDL concentrations and higher triglyceride levels, a marker for heart disease. The strongest association was in overweight women, i.e., those whose body mass index (BMI) was over 25. Increased risk started, on average, at a daily GL of 161.

Calculating overall dietary GL is difficult outside a research setting. But knowing a food’s GL can help you make comparisons that can improve the quality of your carbohydrate choices. In general, it’s a good idea to replace processed and refined-grain carbohydrates, such as those found in many snacks and desserts, with fruits and non-starchy vegetables. These foods, as well as whole grains and beans, are rich in nutrients and contain fiber, which slows digestion and moderates blood sugar levels. Also, try substituting, for example, whole grain bread for white bread; wild rice for white rice; and beans or lentils for potatoes.

Dietary GL may not become an everyday calculation, but we wouldn’t be surprised to see labels that exclaim “Low Glycemic Load!” — like “Low Cholesterol!” — beckoning from grocery shelves in the near future.




Selected Resource
Eat, Drink, and Be Healthy: The Harvard Medical School Guide to Healthy Eating (Simon & Schuster, June 2001), by Harvard School of Public Health professor and researcher Walter Willett, M.D.

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The Glycemic Index for 100 Foods

The glycemic index (GI) shows how much the carbohydrate in any given food boosts blood sugar levels. It is a relative number based on a comparison to a reference item. In effect, it is the blood sugar response to a given food compared with the blood sugar response to a standard food, generally white bread or glucose (sugar).

In the chart below, (please go to link to see chart) we have given you the values for both the glucose and bread GI scales. Sometimes the tests result in a range of values, which we show with a plus-or-minus sign, ±. So, for example, the GI value for a croissant using bread as the reference number is 96±6, meaning test results ranged from 90 to 102.

A word of warning about applying the GI to your diet: It doesn’t say anything about how much carbohydrate a food contains. So, for example, while the carbohydrates contained in carrots may have a relative high GI index, carrots contain relatively few carbohydrates compared with corn chips. Therefore, the net effect of carrots on blood sugar levels is considerably less than corn chips, even though their GI index numbers are similar.

It is confusing. Using these GIs to develop a diet is not easy, which is one reason the American Diabetes Association has been reluctant to embrace the index. Understanding glycemic load (GL) — rather than just the glycemic index — doesn’t completely solve the problem, but it helps.

The glycemic load factors in both the quantity of the carbohydrate in a food as well as the glycemic index. To learn how to determine the glycemic load of a food, see How to Calculate GL, above.

By thinking in terms of glycemic load instead of just the index, you can avoid miscasting fundamentally healthful foods, like carrots, as glycemic villains. Carrots have a high glycemic index of 1.31 because the carbohydrate they contain is metabolized quickly. But there is relatively little carbohydrate to be metabolized. You'd have to eat three pounds of carrots to get as much carbohydrate as you get from just 1 1/2 potatoes. Therefore, carrots have a relatively low glycemic load of 10.

The Glycemic Index for 100 Foods*

SEE LINK

*Source: Foster-Powell K. and Miller JB "International tables of glycemic index," American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 1995; 62: 871S–893S.

Debelli
01-08-2003, 08:11 PM
From the website:

http://www.stonyfield.com/HealthyPeople/MindingMoodsWithFood.shtml

Minding Your Moods with Foods
by Vicki Koenig, MS, RD, CDN


Let's see. I've got a lunch meeting with the CEO at 2pm OR I'm taking my College Boards this afternoon OR I'm presenting at a National conference…. What do I eat to have mental alertness and energy without the typical late afternoon slump? Maybe I need to wind down at night or on the weekend. Is there something I can eat to feel relaxed and help me sleep better at night?

We don't always think that food will impact our mind and mood state, but this theory is gaining credibility. What you eat does indeed affect your energy and moods.

A Bit of Science

It all comes down to amino acids and neurotransmitters in the brain. Sound complicated? Surprisingly, it isn't.

Neurotransmitters

The brain communicates by chemical substances that are passed from one nerve cell to the next nerve cell or synapse. These chemical substances are called neurotransmitters. Certain neurotransmitters excite and some calm. In the 1970's, it was found that three of these chemical neurotransmitters are made in the brain from byproducts of the food we eat. These three are dopamine, norepinephrine and serotonin.

Dopamine and norepinephrine are the alertness chemicals. When your brain is producing these, you have a tendency to think and react more quickly, and feel more motivated, attentive and mentally energetic. Ever had an adrenaline rush? Adrenaline is also known as epinephrine, which is in the same family of chemical neurotransmitters.


Serotonin is the calming and relaxing chemical. Lab studies show that when the brain is using serotonin, feelings of stress and tension decrease and the mind can concentrate and focus better. Your mind is not going "a million miles an hour" in all directions. Serotonin also reduces reaction time and, depending on what time of day it is, you can feel sleepy or sluggish.

Amino Acids

Amino acids are the building blocks of protein. They're found in animal products (meat, poultry and dairy), legumes (dried beans and peas), grains, nuts and seeds. While protein comes in many combinations of different amino acids, when it comes to moods and foods, tyrosine and tryptophan are the two of primary interest.

Tyrosine is the principal ingredient in dopamine and norepinephrine. When tyrosine (from the food you eat) enters your brain, alertness chemicals are produced.
Tryptophan is used to make serotonin. Whenever tryptophan gets into the brain, more of the calming chemical serotonin will be made.


Eating for Alertness



The Tyrosine/Protein Effect

When your brain is using up dopamine and norepinephrine, it will make more of these neurotransmitters from the protein that you eat. This will make you will feel more alert, motivated and you will have more energy. Eating more protein, whether you eat it alone or accompanied by carbohydrate, always makes more tyrosine available for your brain. If protein is eaten with other foods, it works more effectively if it is low in fat, when the carbohydrate is complex and doesn't raise glucose significantly.

The key to quickly shifting your mind into a more alert and motivated mindset is to have protein with small amounts of fats and carbohydrate. For most people, three to four ounces of protein is enough. The Best sources are lean protein with almost no carbs. Useful protein sources contain some carbohydrate but are low in fat. Protein that is high in fat can't be counted on to increase alertness. In fact the high fat content slows down digestion and usually has an opposite effect!

Best Sources:

Fish, shellfish, poultry (without the skin), very lean beef trimmed of all visible fat
Useful Sources:
Low-fat cottage cheese, nonfat or low-fat yogurt and milk, legumes, lentils, soyfoods
Don't Count On:
Beef, lamb, pork and pork products (bacon, etc.), cold cuts (unless specifically labeled low-fat), organ meats, hard cheeses, whole milk and whole milk yogurt

The Power Lunch Actualized

The best way to eat for alertness during your workday is to have a lunch that contains protein, is low in fat, and has carbohydrate that won't drag you down. Mid-day is when your brain's supply of dopamine and norepinephrine is beginning to wane. When you supply the tyrosine (from eating protein), your brain will be ready to make it into more of the two alertness neurotransmitters (dopamine and norepinephrine).

Tips for a power lunch:

Start with the protein: Eat the protein before the carbohydrate in your lunch.

Good examples are:

Between three and five oz. of lean meat, fish, or poultry or
1 cup low-fat yogurt or cottage cheese
2 ounces of low-fat cheese, like feta, reduced fat mozzarella or ricotta
2 eggs (but limit yolks to no more than 3 to 4 per week).
Don't eat too much, but don't arrive too hungry at an important working lunch.

Keep the foods low in fat. You'll begin to digest the protein easier and keep the mind alert.

Don't load up on bread or a heavy appetizer at the beginning of the meal.

No alcohol: It dulls the mind.

Order foods that don't require a lot of focus to eat them. Keep it simple.

The same concepts work if you're having a working dinner and need to maintain an alert mind through the evening.
Some food ideas for an effective power lunch are:


Caesar salad with grilled chicken, salmon or shrimp. Ask for the salad dressing on the side and use sparingly. Ignore those croutons or wait until the end of your meal to eat a few.

Chicken and broccoli or mixed vegetables at a Chinese restaurant. Limit the rice.

Lightly sautéed fish, tofu or chicken fillet with vegetables. A light rice pilaf or pasta on the side.

Eating to Calm and Relax:

The Tryptophan/Carbohydrate Effect

Even though tryptophan is an amino acid, eating protein will not get more tryptophan into the brain. This is because tryptophan competes for entry into the brain and if there are too many other amino acids around, it won't get in. But when carbohydrate is eaten without protein, the competition is decreased. As the carbohydrate is metabolized, there is a "pool" of amino acids that keeps circulating in the bloodstream and the circulating tryptophan easily passes into the brain where it's made into serotonin. Eating carbohydrate without protein has a calming effect. How calming it is depends on the type of carbohydrate, the amount eaten and the time of day.

Eating carbohydrate that is low on the Glycemic Index will promote the more focused and calming aspect of serotonin release and less of the sleepy, sluggish feeling. What is the Glycemic Index? It describes the rate at which carbohydrate is digested to glucose in the blood. Eating foods that require a strong insulin response: ones that are High-Glycemic, get the most tryptophan into the brain and have the most serotonin produced. You don't need to eat very much of these to have the desired effect, about 1 to 2 ounces is enough (30 grams of carbohydrate). Because fruit provides fructose instead of glucose, it tends to be less effective at stimulating serotonin production. In short, it's ineffective at producing the calm and focused effect of serotonin, even though it's healthy to eat.

High-Glycemic Carbohydrates

Sugar, white bread, rice cakes, wheat crackers, bagel, instant rice, baked potato, rice pasta
Low Glycemic Carbohydrates
Brown rice, buckwheat, wholegrain rye bread, sourdough rye bread, pita bread, sweet potato, most wheat pastas

While both High- and Low-Glycemic carbohydrates have the effect of allowing tryptophan to get into the brain, Low-Glycemic carbohydrates tend to sustain your "blood sugar" without producing a subsequent low. When your glucose gets low, energy levels fall and you can feel tired, irritable, unmotivated and confused. That's taking the relaxing serotonin effect to an extreme. If High-Glycemic carbohydrates are the ones you choose, then remember you don't need much to have the desired calming effect. Too much will overdo it, especially when energy levels are normally lower, like in the later afternoon or evening.


If you need to "punch out" from work:

All you need is about 30 grams of pure carbohydrate. Read the label or figure out what 1 to 1 ½ oz. is.

Good examples are 5 to 10 pretzels, 1 ½ to 2 cups of "light" popcorn, 5-10 rice cakes, hard candy, a small amount of chocolate (which comes with its own feel-good endorphins), or plain breakfast cereal without the milk.

Low-fat carbohydrate offers the quickest stress relief. If you choose potato chips, you may have to eat twice the amount to get the desired result. It simply takes longer to be digested and get into your bloodstream.

You should feel results in about 20 minutes. Of course, consciously sitting down and doing this will also help the mind relax. Breathing supports this mind/body experience, but you have actually changed your brain chemicals, so supportive relaxing techniques make it work even more effectively.

The Thanksgiving Mystery

If you have a very heavy and complex meal like Thanksgiving, you're likely to be ready for a nap. Is this because of serotonin production? No. This is because of the energy needed to digest all the food you ate. More blood is in your stomach and intestines, making less blood available to your brain. This is why I have emphasized low fat, easy-to-digest examples to get the most dramatic results.


Understanding Your Diet

So how might you feel if you're on the "High protein/No carbohydrate diet? You might feel a little strung out at times and find it hard to relax since little serotonin is being produced. How might you feel if you're a vegetarian eating very little protein? You might feel a little "spaced out". If you eat a lot of carbohydrate for lunch, you may have a late afternoon slump. Why do nervous or depressed people eat "comfort foods"? These are usually starchy foods like potatoes, pasta and rice. Personal experience tells you that when you eat these foods, that you feel more relaxed and can calm down. This is the effect of the foods you eat on neurotransmitter production.

You can plan your food to support your day by being aware of how it can affect your mind and mood. Once you try this and find that it really works, you can use it to have an edge in business lunches, performances, presentations, exams and interviews. Once you manipulate your own responses, you'll find the results can be significant. Then you can unwind with a bit of carbohydrate at the end of your workday or 30 minutes before you want to fall asleep. Put these concepts into practice and in our often competitive, stressful world, you can shift the balance to your advantage while still taking good care of yourself. What you eat can and does affect your mood and energy level.

References:

Wurtman, Judith: Managing Your Mind and Mood Through Food. Harper and Row, NY 1986.

Somer, Elizabeth: Food and Mood, 2nd Edition. Henry Holt & Co., Inc. 1999

Food and Mood: The quarterly newsletter of the Food and Mood Project. No.1 Autumn 2000.

Carper, Jean: Food-Your Miracle Medicine: How Food Can Prevent and Cure Over 100 Symptoms and Problems. Mass Market Paperback. 1999.

Geary, Amanda: The Food and Mood Workbook. Published by the Food and Mood Project. 1999.

adams
01-08-2003, 08:55 PM
Toni48:
Brand new here. It's actually both my wife and I.

Debelli:
Thanks for all the links and info I can go over.

P.S.
On the complete cutting out and staying away from things like chocolate...I guess I am blessed in the respect that though I love sweets I've never really had a craving for sugars if I cut them out. I can eat grass all day and not have a huge problem with it heheh on the other side of that I could eat cereal with sugar on top every night too. I do really like all the different tastes of foods though and if there is anything that I find hard with this WOE (I am new to it) it is the fact that almost all the foods and condiments and things like that have sugar added. So I can't just whip up some stir fry and throw in some hoison sauce or something similar. I can't pour the Italian dressing on a nice big salad. I have to check the labels of everything and 9 times out of 10 it has sugar added or "illegal" ingredients. I am sure once we start finding all the good brands and foods we will be fine.

YellowRose
01-08-2003, 08:58 PM
Good Evening,

Okay, I'm packed, I'm ready and I am soooo excited to finally see that I will soon be on my way to see Debbie and the rest of the gang. Bye until next week when I will give details of the journey.

Nomoresugar
01-08-2003, 09:26 PM
:dizzy: Wow - I haven't posted for a week and did I have lots of reading to do. I know I just posted a few times last week - thanks to some major teeth problems, I've been sidetracked. I do want to wish all the Florida gals and guys and all those going to Orlando lots of luck! It should be good running weather this weekend - cooler than usual. :dancer: We will all be waiting here to know how the weekend went!!!!!

Melf
01-08-2003, 09:29 PM
Last post...I'm packed too & ready to go. Think I'll just sleep in the car. :lol: No, I'll get a couple of hours. Debbie, Lyn, & Trish, will see all of you tomorrow & the rest of you FL gals Fri. Can't wait!

Everyone else, will see you'll on the board next week! Be good, stay on plan & get those lbs off! :D :wave: :grouphug:

Mel
01-08-2003, 10:32 PM
My, you all have yakked it up! I disappeared for 3 days and missed 10 pages! Not much time left to post :lol:

I'm so sorry I'm going to miss Orlando, but I don't think I'll miss running in that weather, it would be just like here. Yuck!

I'm now only 1 pound above my pre-holiday low. Yipee! You'd think with all that running as well as lifting I wouldn't have gain, but :shrug: somehow I managed.

I just wanted to welcome all the new folks so WELCOME!

And reiterate a few things Deb mentioned. When I first started this WOE a year and a half ago, I just went cold turkey on the sweet stuff. It was tough for about 4 days, but then it was amazing to find out what food REALLY taste like. I refered to this WOE as my "hunter-gatherer diet"- if the food wasn't around 150 years ago, I didn't eat it. That means nothing in a box, bottle, or can. Shop the perimeter of the grocery store. Fresh, real food only, and food that you make. That way you know exactly what's in it. Your tongue and brain don't know Spenda from glucose or corn syrup, and they will want it if you keep gining it to yourself. Those Atkins bars and every other "protein" bar are full of empty carbohydrates in the form of glycerin, and the protein does not have a complete amino acid profile, so it's not doing you any good at all. Natural peanut butter was my salvation: 2 tablespoons for dessert taste really good if you stay away from sugar and artificial sweeteners.

OK- on to my next rant. The 7 o'clock thing. I eat 5-6 small meals a day, all with some protein and carbs. Sometimes (like tonite) I'm having a protein shake with fruit or oatmeal just before I go to bed. When you sleep, your body still need nutrients and it will burn muscle before it burns fat. You don't want to lose weight by burning muscle, because then you are actually fatter even tho you weigh less. This doesn't mean eat a steak and sweet potato and salad before bed, but a little cottage cheese and fruit, a bit of chicken and brown rice, whatever, will keep you from burning up muscle and having cravings all day long.

OK -gotta go. To the new folks: I don't usually lecture :lol:

mel
175/133/135 originally, now am aiming for 130 by end of January and 125 by May.

sweetbeater
01-08-2003, 10:36 PM
Well, had my physical today and their scale said the same as mine so I know it is correct. Two pounds in 2 weeks. Nothing to get excited about. I can't blame TOM because I am done with that. So other than the water component, I don't know why I am not losing. I have been having mostly Kashi and blueberries for breakfast, sometimes with 1 slice of toast, mostly not though. I have my triscuits and string cheese for snack, lunch has been mostly pita pockets with tuna or egg salad, and dinner has been from SB book. Afternoon snack is dried apricots and nuts. After dinner either a cup of SF hot cocoa or frozen cherries. I had a lunch meeting today and they served pizza, I was fasting so I was starved, I took two pieces and ate the cheese and toppings only. Woe is me!

I made some WW tortillas tonight and dh loved them, he is really enjoying this WOE.

Will see how my lab work comes back. And will try not to get to discouraged, my weigh in doesn't happen til Friday, dh and I started weighing on a Friday so we will see what happens. Drank more water today, and will try to do better tomorrow.

Have a great time in Florida, it has been cold and froggy here in beautiful Western Oregon.

adams
01-09-2003, 01:46 AM
This may not be the right place to post here but any recommends on sugar free chocolate syrup. My kids LOVE chocolate milk and I would like to get them drinking something that isn't loaded with sugar.

VR
01-09-2003, 03:16 AM
Mel.. I read your post regarding having a little protein before you go to bed. It makes sense but it doesn't sound like you make a habit of it. I think I need to get used to not "climbing thru the cupboards" at night... maybe when I "trust" myself not to, I'll try that. I am surviving though, I haven't had anything since 7:30p and I'm living to talk about it - although a bite of cottage cheese would be good right now. If you have a chance, would you post a typical day for you as far as food. You've been very successful with this WOE. Thanks

Adams.. I just received the "Sugar Busters for Kids" book in the mail. Amazon had it in the bargain books (hardback) for $4.99.
I haven't had a chance to look at it yet but I'm very interested in what some of there suggestions are for kids. Maybe you could make you own choc. syrup (like in the old days) with cocoa and splenda... That's a rough one because.. kids love there sweets..how about a nice salad instead!

:lol:

Debelli
01-09-2003, 06:15 AM
Good Thursday Morning All:wave:

Up early, it's actually before 6am as I start this quick post - still have lots to do!

Cheesecake is made, quiche is prepared and I'll pop that in the oven while we are all getting ready tomorrow morning and put it in an insulated bag/container to keep it warm, as well as make the hummus first thing in the morning. Haven't packed one thing for myself, but do have a pile of stuff that I'm bringing stacked up in the dining room. House seems to be worse off today than yesterday and hoping I can get a few things done so MELF, TRISH & ROSE don't think we are total slobs in this house.

I will try to hop on tonight for a minute to do a quickie if there's time. From this moment on, it's going to be a busy day. Heck, from this moment on it's going to be busy until Monday night!

Wish you could all join us - hopefully, one day!

ADAMS, quick reply to your question about chocolate milk. I make "milkshakes" and use carob powder, which to me, tastes like chocolate. I have recipes that you can use to make a hot carob drink, like hot chocolate or a syrup to use in milk. BTW, thanks for letting us know it's you and your wife. We always just assume our members are women, though we do have one other guy on the board, though he hasn't been on in a while. We love brave souls who won't mind our openess of the stuff we talk on the board - sorry, no holes barred here, man or not;) Also glad you mentioned it AND the non-cravings, I'd of been wondering about you - having no cravings - geez, not only do men lose weight easier than women, but no cravings? One sex seems to have better luck than another, in some aspects

To everyone else, sorry I can't post individually. Give me a bit of time when I get back and after the gals leave and I'll be back to normal, in more ways than one.

Will miss you guys!!!

{{{HUGS}}}:grouphug:

Debbie

The Quilter
01-09-2003, 07:43 AM
Happy Thursday Morning to all of YOU!!!!

I hope we are all feeling zippy and healthy and ready for another big day. First off, to all you lucky ones who are going to be together this weekend . . . HAVE A WONDERFUL, FANTASTIC, SUPER, FUN, INCREDIBLE, INDESCRIBABLY SWEET WEEKEND. Yes, I know, I should be there. You all were so good to include me in on the emails of organization. It?s just that this month is pretty hectic for me at work and I have a couple of responsibilities that I cannot pass off to someone else. Be sure that I WILL NOT have that happen again next year. You all are going to have so much fun. Wow, what a group! Is this a 3 Fat Chicks record for the largest amount of people getting together? Is Suzanne coming?

Thanks to all for the warm welcome. You all are so sweet. I always know there are plenty of open arms in this group. And I?m sure while I was off eating God knows what, you all got skinny arms to hug with too. Congrats to those of you who stick with your programs and keep on this board.

GRACIOUS---Good luck with the quilt! My quilting supplies are getting dusty. I?m sure you will do great. My only word of advice is to keep measuring after every seam. That?s my downfall. Things just didn?t match up.

DEB---Sorry to hear about your aunt. She sounds like she was one tough lady who wanted to go out on her own terms. What a great way for you to honor her by walking for her on Sunday. YOU GO GIRL!!!!!

SOLSHINE----You are so good to me! I?m sure you are doing well with your eating. How did the training for the WDW end up? Are you ready? How?s that new family member? I guess she must be pretty special if she?s winning awards already. That?s great. Aren?t dogs the greatest? You know how I feel about Miss Maddie!

JACK-K---Hey Girl! How?s my neighbor down there in L?ville? I?ve been meaning to ask this to you: So what do you think of the Cardinals beating the Wildcats? Were you happy about that? I can?t remember who your favorite team is? Anyways, I thought of you on that day and wondered if your family was into college basketball. Hey, are you going to FL for the big get together?

MONET---Sorry to hear about your health problems. Those chest pains must have been scary. You know I battle with my thyroid too. Because mine is almost all gone. I did stop taking the soy because of your suggestion. I?ve opted for putting yogurt in my morning shakes instead. And that gives me the acidopholus that we need. Good luck, hon. Sorry that your plans to meet the gang didn?t work out.

FILLISSE---Perhaps that new scale is defective. Do you think that?s just me being in denial for you? Hang in there. Those holidays are cruel with all those temptations.

TONI---FIVE POUNDS????? That is awesome. Way to go! You must have wanted to do cartwheels after that. You are doing a great job. I?m so happy for you. Thanks for missing me.

MIATA---Hey, glad to meet you!!! I confess that my real nickname should be ?One who starts crafts and never finishes them?. I did quilt for a while and still hope to get back to it, but I got slammed with a project that I couldn?t figure out. My rows didn?t match up, and it was so frustrating!!! So anyway, now I?m into making jewelry. I took a class last weekend and it was so much fun. I learned how to wire wrap beads. So far I have made 2 necklaces and am in the process of making a bracelet. I?ve decided I need more immediate gratification. That?s why quilting is hard for me. You sound like you are really experienced and skilled at it. That?s great. What kind of a machine do you have? Do you like piecing or applique better? Do you have a special technique that you use a lot? I really do love it, I just got psyched out by this one project.

Well, I really need to address more of you, but I have to go finish getting ready for work. Take care. Have a great day!

Hugs,
Kim

Solly
01-09-2003, 09:04 AM
Happy Thursday :wave:

First of all I want to wish all of the Fla bound girls a wonderful time. It don't know how it could be anything but wonderful. I am so jealous of all of you. Take lots of pics to post. We will be thinking of all of you and especially you Deb as you make the walk for your aunt. We are so proud of you.

Have to share my crazy breakfast with you all. I have said that my cupboards are bare and I can't get to the store until this weekend. I have 2 eggs left so I had 1 today and it wasn't enough so I had a dab of chili left so I heated it up and finished it off. Eggs and chili, now that's different.

I did the 3 mile Walk Away the Pounds last night. I relly liked it. I worked up a good sweat. It is much more aerobic than regular walking outside. Hope to do it 2-3- times a week.

Sugrless, Stay away from the SF candies, etc. Get off sugar completely. That is the only way to get rid of those cravings. I stayed away from all that stuff for 5 months. Then I found I ate way to much of them, so I buy no more. As far as your schedule. If you need a snack on your breaks eat cheese, nuts sf yogurt, fruit. Drinks lots of water. Your schedule isn't much different than mine excpet I get no breaks. I eat lunch at 1 pm so I ususally eat an apple around 11. nothing after lunch until dinner. Your menu looks good to me but I would leave off tht chocolate at least for awhile.

MaeMae, I know what you mean about getting breakfast with little ones, but it really is the most important day of the week and even if you have to get up a little earlier it will be worth it. Breakfast sets my tone for eating for the rest of the day. Try some yogurt or pbj sandwich.

Linworthlady, todayis your day. You can do this. We are here to help and support you. You are worth it. Come on. Good luck

Toni, Hope you had a wonderful anniversary. How many years?

Adams, Welome to our board. As you have already found, it is a graet place for info, support and friendship. Looking forward to getting to know you. You can get a sf coch syrup like Hershey's. Nt sure what else is in it though.

Sweetbeater, It doesn't look like you are eating enough. Your body probably thinks it is starving. You need more veggies. Try to have them at every meal. Also if you are eating brea, at bf, pita pocket at lunch, and triscuits you could be having too many starcy carbs. 2-3 a day. Glad your DH is liking this WOE. It helps when you have someone to support you. Good luck.

Deb, thanks for all the info on the GI & GL. I always learn so much from you. I need to go back and read them more thoroughly when I've had more coffee. May your GA rest in peace.

Quilter, I'm not talking about the ballgame. I am a Wildcat true blue. It just made me sick, plus the fact that almost all of our friends are UL fans. We are a big sports family here and DD attends UK. No I'm not going to Fla with the girls. SUre wish I was. With just taking a cruise and the big wedding coming in 4 months,just couldn't afford it or the time away. Maybe next year. Sure glad you are back. Hope you are here sto stay. WTG on being OP 4 days. Keep up the good work. Funny that you mentioned making jewelry. We are making wine glass charms or markers for favours at the wedding. We are using beads and have 1500 to make. Want to help??


Need to get some work started. Be back later.

Jackie
257/165/145
10-10-01

Zanne
01-09-2003, 10:07 AM
Morning All

Thank you so much for all your words of encouragement yesterday. It made me cry--happy tears tho. I wasn't in a good place mentally yesterday and all the warmth and kindness you all sent my way made me feel better. You're a GREAT bunch!:grouphug:

I had a slip up yesterday--I was feeling so exhausted, I needed a boost. I grabbed a chocolate bar for a quick fix. I then read all your responses to me and decided to do something good for myself. I went out and got groceries. Not one thing in the cart was illegal! I made myself some salsa and ate it with some triscuits last night. It was soooo good.

I also got myself a mini trampoline! It's only about 8" off the ground and 3' in diameter. Thought it would give me something to do while watching TV! :dizzy: our family joined abut 4 other families last year and we all were on big trampolines and it was so much fun. I also thought my 5 year old would like it and it would give him some exercise.

I think I'll have to start journaling. I'm probably eating too many starchy carbs, not getting enough fruit and definately not drinking enough water.

I really hope that the bunch meeting up for the run/walk at WDW have a wonderful time! DEBELLI I'll be sending good thoughts your way on Sunday that you have a good walk!

Bye for now.

preciosa615
01-09-2003, 10:09 AM
Good morning everyone,

Since I am new, I am having a hard time keeping track of everyone. But here is the little advice I have to offer:

Sugarless: My schedule is very similar. I start work at 6:00AM and at first it was hard. I don't know if you are allowed to eat at your desk or not, but here is my eating schedule. Every morning before I go work, I fix my oatmeal with cinnamon and sweet and low and take it to work with me. Just mix with hot water and presto! Breakfast. At my first break, I have a piece of fruit. Or even before my first break if I happen to get hungry again. Lunch, leftovers from the night before. 2nd break, usually either sunflower seeds or soy nuts. And I make dinner around 5:00. This usually consists of broiled meat, a veggie and a huge salad. Believe it or not, when the sugar cravings hit, a piece of cheese does it for me, so alot of the time I will have one around 7:00PM... I try not to eat anything after this though. I have found that now that my body is sugar-free, it upsets my stomach greatly if I have food in it when I go to sleep.

Adams, I am not sure of the ansers to all your questions, All I know is that it works. I would have never believed it, but it does. The only reason I started this WOE is because one of my co-workers did and I saw the results on her. I have read every book you can think of on the subject and I still don't understand the technicalities on it. As far as your taste for the orient, I have found that if I mix a little soy sauce, ginger, garlic, vinegar, and just a tad os sweet and low (or other sweetener) it satisfies my creaving and is a great marinade. It isn't exactly authentic, but it works.

VR- you talked about sugarbusters for kids. I have not read it yet, but my kids are on sugarbusters and don't even know it. They love to help me cook, which gives them pride in what they are eating. They have sweets in the house, they just don't know that they are all handmade by me and have NO sugar in them. This way they don't feel deprived or different from their friiends. I did not realize how much peer pressure our young ones experience today. Even when it comes to candy and sweets. I have heard the neighbor's kid criticize my 7 year old because he declined a popsicle.

OK, I am sorry I cannot address everyone, but like I said, I am having a hard time keeping track. Today I am doing great. Day 7 of after holiday detoxing and I am sure that those holiday pounds will be off in no time. Well, gotta get back to actually working. I will talk to you all later..... :wave:

Mom2Marsh
01-09-2003, 10:24 AM
Toni- Congrats on the anniversary! What fun taking a leisurely walk with your DH.

Fillise- Thanks for the GL chart. I’m going to print it up and keep it handy as a reference.

Deb- Wow! What a bunch of info. I’ll be doing my best to read that throughout the day. Thanks!

Adams- It is tough at the beginning, but after just a few weeks on the WOE you learn which brands you can get at your local store and in many cases, you learn to make things yourself (like Peanut butter as some of the women were recently discussing). My first few shopping trips when I started this WOE took about two hours. I’m down to an hour now and that’s because my toddler can be a bit cumbersome. He loves to investigate everything!

Sweetbeater- 2 pounds in two weeks is great! Don’t get discouraged, this means you are on the right track! My doctor actually wants me to lose only a half a pound a week. I think that’s a little too conservative but that’s his medical advice. A pound a week is an excellent amount. Just remember, the slower and more steady it is coming off, the easier it will be to keep it off!

VR- thanks for the tip about SB for Kids. I’ve been wanting to read that one. I have an 18-month old and I want to teach him the proper way to eat (not how I learned J).

Preciosa15- Can you share some of your goodie recipes on the recipe board? I’ve got a husband that’s worse than any kid about his sweets! I just about drives me nuts!

Well, got some good news yesterday. My cholestoral levels are normal. This was the first time I'd had it tested and I was actually a bit concerned about it. One less thing to worry about. Now I've just got to get DH's results in and see if I need to worry about him. I'm pretty sure that I will need to given his family history. Doesn't SB help with cholestoral (I know I'm misspelling that)?

--Kat

Fillise
01-09-2003, 10:24 AM
I have a meeting in a little while so won't have time to respond to everyone individually. I will talk about some of the general topics that have been brought up over the last day or so. This post is for EVERYONE!

For the newbies--I understand the impluse to read everything you can about this WOE, I still seek out as much info as I can find after 2 1/2 years following SB. Another good recommended read is Michael Montiniac's "Eat Yourself Slim." This is where SB came from in fact. Most people find it too technical--so if technical info is what you are looking for then you should definatly put this on your "to read" list!

I heartily echo Deb's admonition not to look for sweet substitutes too soon. As I said before--get all the sugar out of your system and see if you even want sweets anymore. Chances are you won't have much of a sweet tooth after a month or so.

Deb has also posted some good reading material and she also posts on a suggested reading board--if you haven't checked that out I highly recommend it.

I will try for a longer post this afternoon when I can respond individually. For now I hope all those headed to Orlando have a safe trips and a good time. Those of us at home will be expecting to see pictures ASAP! Deb, running will be a good way to pay tribute to your aunt.

Everyone else have a good OP day!

Susan

CountryMom4Him
01-09-2003, 10:34 AM
I got hungry just reading your post Deb....I LOVE quiche. Haven't had it in years though. Grabbed me an apple. :) I've never been much of a fruit fan but this week I've been enjoying some wonderul yellow apples the store had on sale. I can't get over how sweet they taste. I had a red one also...sweet. They came in handy when I was making the family fried pies. I did use agave in the fillings. They loved them.

Sweet beater.....hang in there. You will find the combination that works for you. You may find you have to drop one of your starchy carbs...or adjust your portions. I'm one of those if I eat bread or brown rice...I'm gonna have a little water gain...but it passes. Also a lot of times the inches really do come before the pounds.

Jack-K...I did my 3 mile walk yesterday also. Where you as surprised as I was the first time I did it. It really is a super workout and you can add so much to it as you get stronger. I'm looking forward to when I don't put the weights down when she asked if you need a break to put them down..LOL I'm like yes..yes...:) I'm alternating between Leslie and Richard...disco sweat...LOL

I agree with what everyone has been saying about staying away from the sugar...even the artificial sugar when possible. The first 8 months when I had most of my weight loss..the first 80 pounds I didn't have any sweets..exept an occasional bite of SF ice cream. As soon as I started adding a little coffee with splenda..or the occasional SF candy my weight stalled and the loss slowed down. This week only one cup of coffee and I've seen a big difference. Next week if the weight loss is still good I'll know for my body that the atificial sugars are acting like real sugar.

Mel..thanks for the eating tips. I can't avoid all the canned things but I do try. I do like frozen though...now because of flash freezing some veggies actually have better nutriental value then the fresh. I can't wait to get my garden up and running. I LOVE tomatoes straight off the vine.

Well, off to do some chores.

Love,
235/156/140-135

maemae
01-09-2003, 10:35 AM
Good morning to all.....Its another beautiful morning here in Houston (and i'm stuck inside) :-(

I had a good evening with my eating last night....I was really proud of myself because my meal came with dinner rolls and I held out and handed them over to someone else.....

I have a friend that is doing Atkins so she is somewhat like my "buddy" through this all.....In speaking with her SB is alot better than Atkins because we are allowed fruits and breads (brown)....Im trying to convert her as we speak.....But she is the type of person that can't have any distractions.....

Good luck to all...........I haven't seen any pounds drop yet but it is only the 4th day.....

Ellen
01-09-2003, 11:00 AM
Good Morning!

I did something different this morning and had Cheerios for breakfast. I don't think I will do that again. Took my car to the mechanic, and when my friend dropped me off back at home, I ate a piece of homemade ww bread with dab of Polaner all fruit on it. I am fighting the urge to go eat more. I think I need to stick with a high protein very low carb breakfast to keep the carb cravings at bay.

We had a weird situation here last night. There is a boy at my daughter's school that seems to be stalking her. He showed up last night, uninvited, without calling, at the door last night. She has tried to discourage him, but he just won't take no for an answer. If he had been ten minutes later, she would have been home alone. That scared me, cause he struck me as the type that would have pushed his way in if I hadn't been standing there with my 'bulk' to discourage him. He is a big guy too.... My daughter has been nice to him, not wanting to hurt his feelings. We told her that time for niceties is over. She never gave him her phone number, he got it from eavesdropping on her giving it to someone else. If she can't get him to stop calling her, and coming over, guess I will call the school next, then the police. Sigh.

One thing I noticed that encouraged me: Used to be when situations like this arose, and I felt stressed, I headed for the kitchen and stress ate. In fact, I rarely had an emotion I couldn't eat for. I don't seem to want to do that anymore. Perhaps I really AM making progress! :)

ADAMS: I love Asian cooking, and have even taught classes in Chinese cooking. I know what you mean about the Hoisin and other sauces. I tried to find ways to cook without the high sugar sauces. I make teriyaki sauce with soy sauce and agave syrup. It turns out very well. Instead of thickening sauces with cornstarch, I have used a bit of gum, which I don't mind, but my kids think tastes slimy. Now I just remove the meat and veggies from the wok, and boil the sauce down to reduce it, then pour it back over the stir fry. This seems to work fairly well. Instead of using prepared sauce, I use other seasonings more now. I love using fermented black beans. They are pungent, and with the addition of some garlic, and soy sauce, you have a great flavor with NO sugar. I go heavier on ginger, Szechwan peppercorns, onions, garlic and red peppers when cooking now. We don't miss the sugared sauces a bit. If you want some recipes, just let me know. There are a few on the recipe boards, too. I make my own Italian dressing, using Good Seasonings little bottle and mix. I use Balsamic vinegar instead of regular, and olive oil, and it is mightly tasty, and doesn't have sugar in it. As for chocolate syrup..seems someone posted a recipe for sugar free stuff recently. I know it can be made with cocoa, water, and artificial sweetner. You just want to be careful with the artificial sweetners, especially with children. If you could get them to use less syrup, and perhaps plain cocoa, increasing the cocoa over the syrup, maybe eventually, their taste for sugar would diminish. Good luck! My teen age daughter is a sugar junkie, and we have to work really hard to keep her from going overboard. Thankfully, she runs cross country and track, and keeps it under control.

QUILT: Another thyroid patient, eh? Glad you dropped the soy. Do you feel better for it? I know I did.... This summer, we visited my husband's aunt in Iowa and she is an avid quilter. Her work was so inspiring...I almost came home and started a quilt. Then I got mono...too bad I hadn't gotten started. I could have laid in bed and hand quilted, huh? Nope...I am terrible with hand stitching. I can use the machine tho! My sisters all did embroidery, but they declared me hopeless. I always did like messier things..so I majored in Pottery in college! ;)

SWEET: If you stick to the program and don't see any progress, ask your doctor to check your thyroid. If your TSH is over 3, that indicates thyroid problems, and that may be why you don't see progress. I lose really really slowly...and it IS frustrating. Hang in there!

PRECIOSA: If you want to keep track and write replies to people as you read, open Microsoft Notebook while you are reading posts. You can click back and forth between the two and write replies as you go. Then, when you are done, you just copy and paste what you have written into the reply window on here. Someone told me to do that when I first got on here, and it sure made it easy to keep track and keep up. Eventually, you get to know everyone and it does get easier! Glad you are here!

MOM2: Yes, SB will help with cholesterol levels and triglyceride levels too! My husband had high triglycerides and high cholesterol, and the doctor told him to do SB. I had been doing it awhile and he got more serious about what he was eating. He always eats well as he is a body builder, but he started taking into consideration the GI of things he was eating. The good news is that his triglycerides were half what they were when he got rechecked. His cholesterol was down some too, but his is ALWAYS high, has been all his life, so he also takes Niaspan, and it is hard to say what helped more, the Niaspan or SB. The reason it helps to eat this way is that insulin is what tells your body to create cholesterol. Too much insulin makes your cholesterol levels too high. Reduce your insulin levels and the cholesterol levels drop too.

OK, time for me to go do something constructive. Perhaps I will take a nap! ;)

:balloons:

Toni48
01-09-2003, 11:25 AM
Good morning everyone. Will try to answer all the posts but have a hair app. in 30 min. Hope everyone is having a good Thursday. Its our last nice day. Tomorrow we've got a cold front. Brr. Need to hit the grocery store today and stop and visit my sis. So lots of outside doing..

Nomoresugar- Hello its good to see you posting again...

Melf- Have a wonderful time. I'm so excited for all of you...

Meliris- Congrads on being just 1 lb. above your pre holiday weight. You're doing so good.

Sweetbeater- some times when your weight loss is slow you can speed it up by watching your starchy carbs and maybe try staying away from them for a week to see if it would help.

VR- Just a howdy....

Debilli- Your food sounds wonderful. Wish you could e-mail a little of that here.

The Quilter- Guess we'll have to stay behind and hold the fort down while they're all out there having fun.... Guess we'll be the cheering team...

Jack-K- Wow three miles is sooo good. Keep that up!!!! Yum LOL what a breakfast...But aren't we all inventive when those cupboards are bare. I've been married 15 years. This is my second marriage.

Zanne- Its so hard when we're tired and hungry. Its so easy to grab something like chocolate. I can't even keep it in my house. Hows that mini trampoline? I've wondered about them. Would my flab beat me to death?!!!!! I've been thinking of jouraling too.

preciosa- Good luck on holiday detoxing I'm going through the same thing.

Mom2Marsh- Yes SB helps with the cholesterol and triglerites(sp wrong). I have heart disease and my heart doctor loves this way of eating. Good for you on your blood work.

Fillise You're running as usual.... Hope you have a good day..

CountryMom- Isn't it funny how wonderful fruit tastes. I'm not a fruit eater either but SB sure makes me one.

Maemae- Good for you on your evening of eating well. Its great to have a friend at least understanding what you're going through.

Well time to run. Have a wonderful day. And all of you going to the get together hope you have a safe journey and a wonderful trip. Do us proud..

213/166/130

Toni48
01-09-2003, 11:29 AM
Monet- Guess we were posting at the same time. Wish I could have went to one of your classes on Chinese cooking. Yummy!!! Thats so scarey about the boy stalking your daughter. I sure would call the police too if it kept on.... I have that same problem you had with the cheerios. If I don't eat protein in the morning I'm hungry all day...

Solly
01-09-2003, 12:32 PM
Just wanted to post a few replies so I don't get so far behind:

Maemae, good for you giving those rolls away. That is willpower. I think SB is much better than Atkins, b/c I don't think Atkins is something you can do forever and SB is. You might lose a lot quicker on Atkins, but as soon as you start adding breads, fruit, back in, people seem to gain. I think SB changes your eating habits for good and that's what it is all about. Keep up the good work.

Zanne, Hope you are feeling happy today. You should be proud of yourself for going out there and getting all that good for you food. Next time you need a boost, come here before you reach for that chocolate bar. You know we are always good for a swift kick or a hug, which ever you need at the time. Good luck. You and your DS will have fun on that trampoline and he won't even know you are exercising.

Preciosa, By the sound of your post, yuo have a great handle on this WOE. It is great that your kids are doing this too and you have things for them to substitute. There is a lot of pressure on kids, but it is worse when they are overweight. Keep up the good work.

Mom2Marsh, There are bunches of recipes on the info board. You have to try Deb's Cheesecake. It is awesome.

Fillise, Doing SB for 2 1/2 years is a great testimonial that this is a WOE and not a diet. Plus it is so easy to do.

Country, yes I was suprised at the tape. I really didn't have any intention of doing the whole thing the first time, but it was easy and it went quickly. I didn't use the weights the whole time either. We will work on that one.

Mel, I got so involved reading your post, I forgot to respond to it. I agree with you about eating at night. A little protein is good for you. Not just a heavy carb meal. Most of us are nite-time snackers like chips, ice cream etc. We have to get into a different pattern of eating. A little cheese, nuts before bed aren't going to hurt you. Thanks for the insight.

Monet, I might as well not eat if I eat Cheerios. They don't hold me. Oatmeal will last a bit longer but I do better with protein. I think those carbs just make you hungry. How scary for your DD. Maybe she should tell him that if he doesn't leave her alone you are calling his parents and then the police. You are right. Being nice is not going to solve this situation. WTG on not stress eating. Yes you are making wonderful progress. I love you idea of something constructive!

Toni, I guess we are getting some of your weather. It is supposed to be in the 20's here all thru Sunday. Yuk! I want to go to Fla. I don't believe you have a lot of flab at 166, but if you are anything like me, I have a lot of floppy skin. I need a whole body tuck. :lol:

Bob, Sorry about the game last nite. Did you get to see it? UT would have won if the one big shooter hadn't fouled out. SLay is good, but hasn't he been there about 8 years now? :lol: BTW, where are you anyway. You haven't been on here lately. Shape up or I'm coming down there to check on you. Especially since it is so cold here.


Be back after lunch.

Jackie
257/165/145
10-10-01

DawnStorm
01-09-2003, 12:35 PM
Last evening I went to the grocery store--can you believe that Valentines candy is already out??:rolleyes: Puh-lease.
Anyway, while it was VERY tempting, especially the prices, I told myself :nono: and walked right on by! :cp: There were some goodies there too: Peppermint Patties which I adore, plus those little sugary valentines with the lame sayings on them. It was hard, but I did it!!!!!:cp: :cp: :cp:

miata1997
01-09-2003, 01:23 PM
Hi SB's...Miata here...Just want to tell you..still doing well, haven't had any sugar...going to a quilt meeting tomorrow and will have to bring my own food. they are awsome cooks and i know what ever they have will not be sb legal. Need to do more planning, etc. Can't post very much, got to get busy with my house...

Country Mom:::: Maemae Said you were from the Livingston area is that right??

Maemae: did I tellyou my sister-in-law lives in Houston??? yes and someday I will visit her esp when the quilt show happens...


Trish: thans for the Curves tips..it makes me realize I need to join the other exercise program at the college. i will prob take the dog walking but will definetly do the fitness lab..i really like that sweat!!! Trish..I would love to meet you at the quilt show!!! 2 of my art quilt friends went last year and just loved it...with my siser in law living there in Houston, I will diffently go..someday, maybe even next year.

If I don't get off this computer and clean house, dh is going to freak, so better go..Hello to all sb's and hope you have a good sugar free day..

miata

maemae
01-09-2003, 01:29 PM
Hello Miata.....Yes I live in the Houston area (Pasadena)....My step-mom lives in Huntsville and is a wonderful quilt maker.....She has made my kids quilts every year....I would love to learn but don't have the time....

Serene
01-09-2003, 01:31 PM
Hi! Just popping in to say hello to everyone! :wave: I'm having a busy day at work, and so is Tranquil. We are trying to get all caught up since we both have tomorrow off for our trip to Orlando. So, you know what that means - Double Trouble on the way from J-Ville. :lol: Can't wait to get there and for all the fun to begin. I wish everyone were able to be there with us.

Besides, having fun this weekend, I'm hoping to get some fresh motivation. My eating has been terrible. Don't know why I've been having such a hard time staying in that wagon. I thought about going out at lunch and looking for a pair of pants that have a target in the rear end area since I will be expecting a "BUTT" kicking from Deb. Though I don't think she will have a hard time finding it, even if it isn't marked.;)

Don't have much time to make individual replies now, as I need to get back to work, however, I do have to say a big welcome back to Quilter! Good to see you on the board again, girlfriend. I've missed you and knew you would make you way back.

Will try to post again before going out of town.

Take Care,
Wendy

CountryMom4Him
01-09-2003, 01:39 PM
Yes I live near Lake Livingston...actually in the Coldspring/Evergreen area. *smile* I saw you mention an rv park the other day but I'm not sure which side of Lake Livingston it's on. We live on the dam side of the lake. About 20 minutes away...maybe a little less.

Love,
Crystle

heartmom
01-09-2003, 01:41 PM
Sweetbeater- I would recommend only having about 2 starchy carbs a day-drink lots of water-increase your protein and veggies- and I bet you will see a difference! BTW- a pound a week means you could be 50 pounds lighter next year!

As for me, I'm at 213.5 today-only 1 1/2 Holiday pounds to go!! Thanks ladies for cheering me on!

Solly
01-09-2003, 02:39 PM
I have noticed a lot of people have talked about journaling. Some have resolved to do it this year. I tried it. Went for a few days then didn't have time once and never went back to it. Someone on another board was talking about the Oprah show yesterday about Obese people. Since I work I don't get to watch her. I went to her website (Oprah.com) and you can see what the show was about. But I noticed she has a place where you can journal on-line. In fact, it is 6 journals. Not only for weight, but for gratitude, health, etc. It looked pretty cool and you just have to become a member which is free.

Just wanted to pass this along in case someone wanted to look into journaling.

Jackie

Fillise
01-09-2003, 03:33 PM
Thursday afternoon and a few feww minutes. I'm at the church and am getting ready to put on my other hat for the rest of the afternoon!

Jackie--I will check out the Oprah site. Thanks for the info!

Heart--those last holiday pounds can drop at anytime and then you will be into NEW LOW territory! Yippee!

Serene--Have fun in Orlando!

Maemae--Ok we need to pass a rule--no more Texas folks and no more Fla folks till we get some more Alabama folks on the board!:lol:

Miata--I'm going to start back with the weights too. I'm actually thinking of looking into the pilates machines at my gym--I always injure something when i work with weight machines or free weights.

Dawn--I know what you mean about the VD candy---I'm probably the most militantly anti-VD day person on this board. When I walked into the store a few days after CHristmas and saw the VD candy--I swore--loudly!

Monet--I'm thinking we should hire you as the board cook. every morning you can post one of your delish SB recipes and we will all cook it that evening. What do you think everyone?

Adams--welcome to you and your wife! It's always nice to have some fellas on the board!

Hope everyone has a good evening!

Susan

maemae
01-09-2003, 03:36 PM
Ok Fillise................But Houston was once again named the #1 city for overweight people.................I want to make that one less....:)):))

Zanne
01-09-2003, 04:20 PM
Well, I did my measurements this morning and the scale, tape measure and pants-o-meter all say the same thing--I'm BIGGER in the waist! And it's only the waist. My other measurements are the same as last week--I even used two different tapes to double check!

I just don't get it, but I'm not going to let it get me down. I'm going to wait and see if it's due to being mid-cycle. Lately I've been able to FEEL midcycle and I know DEB always says she gains at that time too.

After eating my lunch, I could just feel my waistband getting tighter. I had some baked fish between some wwbread (1 slice cut in half), a glass of milk, about 10 triscuits with homemade salsa. That was it.

So instead of dwelling on it, I took DS outside and we started setting up the skating rink. I was shovelling snow in the yard to make the boarder(we now have a shovelled lawn!) :dizzy: :lol: and then had to pack all the snow down into a tight little perimeter wall. We were out for 1 1/2 hours. Does that count as exercise?

I hauled out the mini-trampoline for DS and he's been jumping on it! He thinks it's great fun! Me too actually. I've been bouncing too!

JACKK--thanks for the info about the journal on the Oprah site. It's very easy to use and you can set up several different journals like you said. It let's you title the entry if you wish and automatically adds the date. I think we can also set up journals on this site too. After I wrote down what I've eaten, I see that I need more fruit and maybe to cut back on starchy carbs. I need more water too.

Mom2Marsh
01-09-2003, 04:21 PM
Hello all,

Bored at work, so I'm stealing a few minutes to post.

I'm about ready to go nuts! I've had this song from "Bear in the Big Blue House" stuck in my head for two days now!!!!

Dawnstorm- WTG on resisting the candies. I have a weakness for Necco's. Those things are like crack to me!

Jack-K- Thanks for the tip about Oprah's site. I'm going to have to check that out.

Serene, Deb and the rest of the crew headed to FL- Have fun! Think about us at least once!

Well, I'm off to check out the recipie boards and get some fresh ideas!

--Kat

Solly
01-09-2003, 04:52 PM
Well I'm off to get my nails done and then home to a pot of bean soup. Just so glad I don't have to come up with something to cook.

Dawn, good for you passing that candy. You are heading in the right direction. I was in KMart the day after Christmas and they already had their Valentine's stuff out too. Couldn't believe it.

Miata, Here's what I do when going to someone's house. I call ahead and tell them I hope they don't think I'm rude, but can I ask what you are serving. Explain that you are doing SB and need to plan ahead. If they are having something legal than maybe you only need to take a ww bun or bread or some triscuits to get through those dipping things. No one ever minds me asking. In fact, I have done it soo much that people are starting to make sure they have things that I can eat. Pretty neat.

Serene, if you need a butt kicking I hope Deb gives you one. Now you all stay legal down there. You wouldn't dare cheat with all those SB people watching would you??? Hope you find some motivation, have a wonderful time and please tell Tranquill that we are missing her too.

Heartmom, only 1 1/2 to go! That is great. You can do it and once you get those pounds off keep on going to your goal.

Fillise, Hey, we need a few Kentucky girls on here before anymore ALa girls. There's more of yhou than me. I think Monet should actually cook the meals for us.

Zanne, I think shoveling all that snow is great exercise. My pants always get tight after I eat. No matter how little. Don't dwell on the scale and stuff, you have to feel better and you know this works, so it will start to happen for you soon. Add some veggies too.

Mom2Marsh, I can't get the Dixie Chicks' new song out of my had. Don't ya hate it.

Have a great evening everyone. See ya tomorrow :wave:

Jackie

TVthatsME
01-09-2003, 04:54 PM
Howdy all,

I just want ya’ll to know that I typed up a HUGE post on Monday to kick off my re-dedication to SB, but when I tried to post it, I got an error saying that I had too many of those smilies. It said to go back and correct it, but when I went back, my message was GONE!! So what is the limit, anyone know? I sure don’t want to do that again!!

I got on that dreaded scale Sunday morning to get me a good starting back weight, and I didn’t like it at all!! It said 155 – last week it was 151. I do think that it is TOM because certain hilly areas of my body have been SOOOO SORE this week. I mean really sore, like in the beginning of pregnancy. Its getting better now and the scale was down to 152 today. I have a hard time keeping up with my cycle since I had that hysterectomy last February. That is what I’m gonna use as my excuse anyhow…

I’m doing pretty good at eating right. I only wish I didn’t love french fries soo much! I took the kids to taco bell last night and they have the BEST FRIES. Of course, my 10 year old said “Mom, get me some fries to eat on the way home” – I only ate 2. They are sooo good with nacho cheese. There is simply no replacement for them that is OP. I can make myself my next to favorite, pizza, on the sgww pita bread, so I guess I’ll just be thankful for that!! I made legal chili last night and it was sooo good that I ate it for breakfast too!! Been trying to steer clear of the starchies as much as possible and have done fairly decent on water intake. Kicking that old Mountain Dew habit again… I broke down today and did a diet dew, but that’s better than the real thing. I don’t even like them but must have been needing the caffeine cause I sure feel better since I had it!!

I don’t remember if I ever told you all about us starting a “goat farm” (term used loosely) last year. We only started out with Nannys and just got them to help keep our pasture from getting so grown up and our bushhogging time down. Well, my DH and BIL got a Billy awhile back and we had our first babies last Friday night! They are so cute – twins. The billy is a 100% Boer goat – they are the ones with the red (brown to me) heads and are white everywhere else. The mommy isn’t a Boer, but one of the babies has a redhead and one is just white. We have 9 or 10 more that will be delivering soon. My boys just love all of this goat stuff! The goats were down at my house (fence comes up along the edge of my yard) this morning and saw me off to work! They are so funny. We have a big dog (Great Peranase, spelling??) that guards them and her puppy is learning the ropes. They are amazing to watch.

The board has really been hopping, gonna try and get a few personals done, but I’m sure I won’t get to everyone – please forgive me in advance!

Mel – Oh, so sorry about your ankle! Hope it gets better soon!

Monet – I think you did the right thing with the cell phone. My Mom was tough when I was growing up and I hated her back then, but now I know exactly where she was coming from and love her more for being stern with me. I think I know what that word is for your chest inflammation, don’t know about the spelling, but my husband had it once, pleurosy?? It’s very painful. Hope you are feeling better. I like having a doctor that will cut up with me. My GYN is that way. Makes going to the doc much less painful! BTW, I’m a hypothyroid too. I had a spell last year and had to more than double my synthroid. Thought I was gonna have to push some of the T3 stuff at my general doctor, but we finally got my TSH back down. I think the last test showed me at 2.??. It had gone up to 100+ all at once! Come to think of it, I’m getting close to a yearly check – I need to look and see when I’m due a trip to the lab…

Fillise – WAR EAGLE girl! That little fellow who is so good from NC is actually from my little hometown of Athens, AL. Wonder why AL or AU didn’t pick him up. Bet they are kickin theirselves now…

Tranquil – Hope you feel better soon.

Quilter – WELCOME BACK – GOOD TO SEE YA!

Gator – Definitely, thyroid can keep you from losing. It’s a lost cause for me to diet when my TSH is high. Oh, yeah, is it you that has a DD or someone that is trying to stop :smoking: ? I have been quit now for almost 2 years, Zyban really did it for me.

Toni – 5 LBS IS ABSOLUTELY GGRREEAATT!!!!!:cp:

Gotta run – Outta time…

Cya,
Teresa
:spin:

Mom2Marsh
01-09-2003, 05:05 PM
Just getting some recipies off the boards and ran into a question. My SB buddy's birthday is next week, so we're doing a mini-party during our staff meeting Tuesday. Our office manager is very cool about us doing SB and really tries to accomodate us. I volunteered to make her a cake that we could legally eat (we're not going to tell the rest of the staff and see if they notice). Question is, the recipe I found says to top with your own legal frosting. Any tips on making a legal frosting?

Thanks,
Kat

heartmom
01-09-2003, 05:17 PM
Jack-k- Do you have any before and now pics?

Just got back from taking Boogie to get Synagis shots-won't do that again. He's at the age limit where he really doesn't need them anymore anyway. Poor baby it seems like everytime we go to the doc(alot) he has to get a shot. Plus, next week he is due for the 2nd part of his flu shot. But at least he handles the doc office pretty well.

I'm really pretty hungry today. I plan on cooking spaghetti for supper and salad. I always have just the meat sauce, while the kids and hubby eat the noodles. But I eat alot more salad than they do,lol.

heartmom
01-09-2003, 05:21 PM
trying out a pic...

CountryMom4Him
01-09-2003, 05:30 PM
Have you ever tried cucumbers with the homemade salasa...it's delicious. :) You bet moving snow is exercise...one of the toughest I've heard. We love salsa...mine is hot and sweet. I have made it with the splenda but it taste better with the sugar so I leave it in there.


Love,
Crystle

sugarless
01-09-2003, 05:49 PM
Thank you everyone for all of your help with this WOE. Also all of you that are meeting in Fl have fun.:cool:

Ellen
01-09-2003, 06:27 PM
TV: Ouch! Pleuresy is painful! But that is not what I have. This is something that starts with a chron... like chronditis or something. My husband's cousin has a Grand Pyrennes. When it had puppies, my daughter wanted one of them! Such beautiful dogs! The goats sound like fun. Are you going to sell them? Milk them? I understand Curry Goat is really good! :eek:

MOM2: You could use a whipped cream frosting. It would be high in fat, but you can use splenda in it and it would be essentially legal. It is best if you stabilize it. I have a recipe somewhere for it, if you are interested, or search online for stabilized whipped cream. You could also melt 70% chocolate, and add cream to it to make a ganache icing. If you had more time, you could buy powdered maltitol sugar replacement and make an icing with it. A friend of mine was telling me it works just like powdered sugar. I can't wait to try it!

JACK: Hey, bean soup! Thanks for the idea. I have some leftover ham, that I think I will toss in with some black beans and call it dinner. Maybe my husband will like it...if not, oh well! ;)

ZANNE: I hope the belly bloat is gone really soon. I always feel like a ball... If you are insulin resistant, you tend to gain in the belly, and have an apple shape. Boy do it. I was whining to the doctor the other day that I have lost almost 40 pounds over the last two years, but none of it from my belly. I am going to look like a lollipop on two sticks if I don't start losing from the belly!

Time to go and make a stab at cooking dinner....

adams
01-09-2003, 07:21 PM
So I am the only dude on here? ...man (no pun intended).

Thanks for all the tips btw...I think my wife and I will do good on SB.

Does anyone on here look at their BMI? Says it is supposed to be under 25. It would be nearly impossible for me to get under 25 I am thinking. Even when I was in tip-top shape my weight was up there (I know muscle weight is heavy). I am just wondering how much give BMI has as far as recomendations go.

Forgot to ask...what's the story on enriched wheat flour. SB says the more processed the worse it is. If it is enriched it has probably been processed to some extent. Even things like enriched whole wheat flour. We have quite a few products we bought this week that have enriched wheat flours.

acw
01-09-2003, 08:08 PM
Greetings fellow SB's. I'd say afternoon but I think it's more like evening in your neck of the woods.

Had a wonderful day in the country. Kids ran themselves ragged and slept well. Easy to keep OP as there are no shops around. Ifound that the only food I took was legal so therefore had great day! Lots of walking in the sunshine so one of those recharge your battery days. Good for the soul!

Boy have you guys been busy. I'm going crosseyed trying to catch up on all these pages! A definate theme of food!

Talking of food. Can anyone help with ideas to take to coffee mornings. We all take a plate sometimes morning teatime sometimes lunch. I'm a bit stmped on what I can take or eat when there. Figured best idea was take something I know I can eat. Would appreciate some suggestions.

JACK-K Thanks for the Oprah tip I'm heading there next for a look.

Thanks for all the tips and support.

You guys are great!

heartmom
01-09-2003, 08:42 PM
adams- you aren't the only guy around- there's another one-but it's been a little bit since he posted.

If it's enriched you should stay away from it-look for whole wheat in the ingredients. But every once in a while(seldom) I will sneak a few Town House's wheat crackers which are made from enriched wheat flour. When I do, I only eat a serving or less and it's a rare treat.
BTW-WELCOME!

sweetbeater
01-09-2003, 10:00 PM
Thanks everyone, once again for the encouragement. I have given up so much, if I have to give up all starchy carbs too I don't know what will become of me.:?: I had some rice and chicken for supper and a pita with tuna for lunch but tomorrow I am going to have turkey bacon and an egg for breakfast , fruit for snack, and who knows for dinner and see what happens. I will watch my starchies for a week or so, IF I can.

I know there are more benefits on this WOE besides weight loss, but I want to have them all. I did have lab work done yesterday but we didn't discuss a tsh.

I am not quitting, just complaining because it makes me feel better. You guys are great at giving me perspective. Thanks again.

The Quilter
01-09-2003, 10:09 PM
Hi All!!! Don?t look now, but I think I?m actually caught up . . . sorta kinda.

Had another good day of eating. I did opt for a glass of red wine tonight with dinner. But stopped after that. It tasted so good. For those of you who like red wine, try the merlot from the Chilean vineyard called TaraPaca. Yum!!! I?ve also had the cabernet sauvignon and it?s good too. The only thing now is that I?m quite sleepy. Hopefully, I?ll have pleasant dreams.

The funniest thing is that for the past couple of nights I?ve had an upset stomach late like around midnight. Sometimes I wake up around midnight and feel this churning and distress in my belly. Duh!!! It?s because for once in about 3 months I am not stuffed so full. It?s called hunger pains I think. Plus I take my BC pill right before bed and I?m wondering if it?s taking that on an empty-ish stomach. I may start taking it with dinner.

COUNTRYMOM---Hey, thanks for the welcome back! Congrats on the three pound loss. See, your faithfulness to your commitment paid off for you and is a GREAT incentive for all of us. We want to all feel that three pound loss by next week. However, I won?t know it, because I?m giving that scale a WIDE berth before putting one toe on it. Those ?holiday discretions? will be a mild memory before long. Yea for you!!!

GATOR---Hi! I?ve missed a lot of your details about the thyroid, but I just wanted to share one thing with my experience. After I had 3/4 of my thyroid removed the ENT did not put me on any kind of thyroid meds. He thought he had left enough to take care of everything. The next two months were not great. I was exhausted all the time. (I didn?t know if it was just getting over the surgery or what.) Also I was eating like crazy and gaining all sorts of weight. After the second straight month of no periods, I called my regular doctor and she said, ?You need thyroid meds.? And immediately put me on them. I?m only doing 50 mg of levoxyl once a day. But it does help with the exhaustion. I still have so much difficulty getting a pound or two gone, but that?s probably due to the missing thyroid and being 45! Good luck to you.

HEARTMOM---How nice of that woman to make a quilt for Boogie. I?m sorry I wasn?t around when he had his surgery. I am hoping that it all went well. Is he on his hopefully speedy road to recovery?

ROSALIE---Your vacation in FL sounds heavenly. Did you get to see any of the SB people while you were there? Did you all make the drive? Did you wave at me while you passed by Cincinnati?

TONI---Happy Anniversary!!! A romantic walk in pleasant weather sounds delightful. How many years is it for the two love birds? Yes, you and I can be the cheerleaders from home this year. Perhaps next year we can join them.

THE ADAMS---Welcome to you both!!! How great that youare doing this work together! And I think it?s wonderful that you are researching everything so well and getting clear on the SB way of life. Good luck to you!

JACK-K---Okay, I will remember from now on that you are a Cats fan (and I don?t mean BEARcats. Ha!) I always liked Rick Pitino when he was in Lexington. My brother and my parents both used to live there and they became loyal to the mighty blue there. How are the wedding plans coming? Is it getting more and more exciting? Are all the big purchases made? Where did you end up getting the bridal dress? Those wine glass charms is a GREAT idea. I love them. And I?d love to help. I?m not sure I?ve got the skills for it. But just say the word. At the World of Beads shop where I took lessons, they have a kit for wine glass charms. That?s a great thing for everybody to take home. Keep me posted on the plans for the big event. It?s going to get crazy pretty soon if it isn?t already. Ha!!! Thanks for the journaling idea from Oprah.

Zanne---That trampoline sounds like a blast. It reminds me of years ago when I had a roommate, she bought one. It was a good idea until we realized that the people downstairs from us didn?t appreciate it as much as us. It was fun while it lasted. Enjoy!

MONET---I would love to do pottery. It looks really hard to me. Our niece is doing it in one of her art classes in high school. She made us a beautiful vase for Christmas. It looks like something you?d see at a studio.

DAWNSTORM---Congrats on giving that Val candy the cold shoulder. That?s great! Has to feel better to deny it that to have it!!!


SERENE---Thanks for the welcome back. You were right . . . I did find my way back. How are the ?children?? Still hogging the bed????? Maddie?s back legs aren?t any better, but I don?t think they are any worse. Her food has glucosamine and condroitin in it and I?m giving her 500 more mg a day just to help if she?s got arthritis. Her slippages don?t seem to bother her. She?s still pretty playful.

TV---Sounds like you are handling the 4+ gain well. You?ve already got almost all of it back off. Keep going. You?ll get back there. Just keep focused. We?re all pulling for you.

Okay, I?d better close for now! It?s getting late. I?ll bet those girls at Deb?s house are already having a gas and it has nothing to do with the hummus!!!!!

Kim

GatorGal
01-10-2003, 01:05 AM
Quilter--Thanks for relating your thyroid experience. Actually, I have never felt tired or anything else. I would not have known that it was low. It just showed up on a blood test that was run at my annual physical. the doctor told me that after a number of months I would have started feeling tired, and would have had other symptoms. I’ve always had a lot of energy.

Adams--Enriched wheat flour is just another name for white flour. They say it that way so it will sound healthier than it is. They have to enrich it because they have taken all the natural original stuff it used to have before they stripped it and made it all nice and pretty and white. Go for the 100% stone ground whole wheat, such as Pepperidge Farm 100% SGWW bread.

Geuss Debbie is having fun greeting people that are arriving at the airport. I started fixing my tomato-cheese tart tonight. Had to slightly caramalize the tomatoes in a hot oven. Can’t wait to taste it tomorrow at the lunch.

I had a really stressful day. I am chairman of a committee where we are putting on a big conference. We are bringing in a speaker, and having 4 smaller home dinners with speakers during the week. We are having a BIG kickoff party in 3 weeks. There is a ton of stuff to do. I spent almost all day working on stuff I have to get mailed out to everyone who we want to come. I didn’t even get my walk in. :( :(
I did get to work out, though, and that helped to reduce some of the stress. Then I had a meeting tonight until 10 pm. I may not sleep so well tonight, because my brain is still on overdrive. I’ll actually be glad when the whole thing is over.

Well, I am gonna try to hit the hay and go to sleep.

gracious
01-10-2003, 08:37 AM
Whoa!! I was out shopping all day yesterday and put 10 hours in!! DEBELLI would be proud of me. I got some awesome sales and I too resisted all the discount Christmas goodies and all the new Valentines ones. I have 10 dollars worth of Nestle coupons in my wallet and certainly could have given in easily since it would have been *free*. I will wait and buy something for my Secret Pal closer to Valentines maybe...to make sure that it isn't sitting around my house calling my name.

JACK-K- I am so glad you are loving the 3 mile WATP tape. I love using all 3 of them at different times, depending on my day and my energy level. She is right when she says you don't get that kind of walk when you stroll around the block!

QUILTER-I hear you when you tell me to keep measuring. I have found that it is very VERY difficult to get each of them exact. It seems that they all want to be a tiny fraction off and I know even that can cause trouble. Good for you on eating better! Keep it up.

ADAMS- It is pretty hard not to be one of the very few guys on a site called 2 fat CHICKS! lol Consider yourself brave and at least you have your wife there to balance things out. This board is so knowledgable it is worth being the minority, imho.

MONET- That is pretty scary about that guy and your daughter. I will pray for her and your family. Be vigilant like I know you will be.

TVthatsME- Hey you! Long time no read. I am interested in your *goat farm* since we have a little hobby farm thing going on here too. Someone tried to give us a set of twin goats awhile back but we didn't take them. Do you milk them and pasteurize it at home? Do you eat them or are they just lawn mowers for you? Enquiring minds want to know!!

I have to get things organized this morning. Being out all day shopping yesterday left my house in disarray. However, it helps hubby realize all that I do here during the day! I have a yummy 5 lb pot roast in the crock pot and it smells terrific. Yesterday, because I was out they had to have hot dogs, poor critters. :s:

Solly
01-10-2003, 09:02 AM
TGIF :wave:

It was hard working a full week with no holidays. Friday is finally here.

Guess all the girls are gearing up for some wild times.

I was so tired last nite. Just wanted to go home and veg out. DH wouldn't hear of it. Said I would perk up after our walk. I really didn't want to walk. But we did, I did convince him just to do 2 miles. Then we worked out for about 40 minutes. Glad I went along with it now.

Got to run to a meeting so wanted to get this posted first.

TV, I think 10 smiles is the limit, but not 100% sure. Taco bell has fries? Our doesn't (thank goodness) Fries were my weakness to, but I don'teven miss them now. I make ff from sweet potatoes. Pretty good. DH puts catsup on his, but I can't do that. Your goats sound so cute.

Mom2Marsh, Try Deb's cheesecake, No one can tell the differnce and it is wonderful. Can't help on the frosting, unless you frost it with real whipped cream sweetened with splenda.

Heartmom, I don't have any pics I can post on here. As most of us do when we are heavy, I avoid the camera as much as possible. I don't have any of the "new" me. Will work on that.

Monet, how was your soup. Mine was pretty good,. but it kills me later, (if you know what I mean).

Adams, Daramus was our only man. He hasn't been around for awhile. We are glad to have another one. Enriched ww is not legal. Everything is enriched almost at the regular grocery store. Look for 100% ww.

ACW, your outing in the country sounds so relaxing. Glad you enjoyed it. Look in the recipe section, there is bound to be stuff you can take in there.

Sweetbeater, You don't have to do away with all starchy carbs, just cut back. Some try to eat them early in the day instead of at dinner. That helps some people. Give that a try.

Quilter, is that wine you descrived real dry? Just can't drink dry wine.

Quilter, OhI loved Rick Pitino. I think he is the bet coach around, just hate that he went to Lou. Wedding plans are speeding up. All the major things have been done for months. Now all the stressfull little things are coming. They bought a house this weekend and we have been dealing with getting a loan. She thinks she is stressed now. Just wait. We ended up buying a dress in Lou, but it is the one we saw in Cinn. We were going to order it form a discount lady in Cinn, but found it here for the same price.

Gator, I bet you are stressed organizing that conference. It sounds like a lot of work. Have fun with all the girls. Tell them all Hi.

Gracious, Deb will be so proud of your shopping all day and getting bargains. That's what I call fun.

Have a great day. Be back later.

Jackie
257/165/145
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Ellen
01-10-2003, 09:07 AM
Good Friday morning!

PMS is in full swing today. Monet is NOT a nice person to be around. I tried to channel that energy to something useful, so I tackled one of my drawers in the kitchen that has turned into a junk drawer. What a mess! Someone put packettes of ketchup, soy sauce, sweet and sour sauce and hot sauce in there. One of them got punctured...ick! I got it all dumped out, and cleaned. Now I have to repair the drawer, and go through the junk....

Last night, I needed dinner fast. Thanks to JACK-K, I ran downstairs and opened two cans of black beans and started throwing stuff in. I had the end of a honey baked ham, so I trimmed all the fat and sugar coating off it, and added chopped carrots and celery and onion and garlic... It turned out pretty good, and was ready as my husband walked in the door from jogging.

Here is a funny for Fridays Funnies:

The wedding day was fast approaching. Everything was ready, and nothing
could dampen Jennifer's excitement, not even her parents' nasty divorce.
Her mother Sheila finally found the PERFECT dress to wear and
would be the best dressed mother of the bride EVER! A week later,
Jennifer was horrified to learn her new young stepmother Barbie had
purchased the same dress. She asked Barbie to exchange the dress,
but Barbie refused, "Absolutely not! I'm going to wear this dress; I'll
look like a million in it!"
Jennifer told her mother, who graciously replied, "Never mind
dear. I'll
get another dress, after all it's your special day, not hers."
Two weeks later, another dress was finally found. When they
stopped for lunch, Jennifer asked her mother, "What are you going to do
with the first dress? You don't have any place to wear it." Sheila
grinned and replied, "Of course, I do, dear! I'm wearing it to the
rehearsal dinner!"

Have a great day!

maemae
01-10-2003, 09:54 AM
Good morning all..........

Well I think I blew it last night and am going to try again to start on a new path today......Yesterday I think I ate wayyyyyyyyy to much fruit.....I was always hungry and the fruit was just calling my name.....Then for supper I stopped at subway and had a sandwich on wheat bread....BUT for some reason I was still hungry and looked in the pantry for something legal and all I could find was peanut butter (JIF) and honey wheat bread.....BUT there was cookies and what not in the house that I could have splurged on but I at least attempted to keep it somewhat legal......

As I have said before I am a newly single mom (with no support from my ex) and sooooooooo much is going on im my life that I seem to turn to food as my friend....My little ones have been in Louisiana with my parents so I was trying to start this without them around....I keep saying to myself that I want to loose this weight so my little ones will be proud of there mommie.....I am even going to go back to college this semester so I can get my feet back on the right track.....

By the way is Cheerios a legal cereal? I sure do hope so..... It said on 1g of sugar and I had it with 2% milk.......

Well I better get to work.............
I hope ya'll have a wonderful day

sweetbeater
01-10-2003, 09:59 AM
Okay you guys, it's WIF for me, the scale isn't lying this time, my 15 day total is :) 4:) lbs. I will take it. And I will tweak my eating to accomplish a steady loss. I know I need more veggies, but haven't been good about this. I find it harder now that I am not home and having to work every day. But, I am interviewing a replacement for the doctors and they may hire her to start right away if they like her. I told them I was only interested in interim help....even though they are great docs. Once I am home again I can plan meals better and get more veggies in.....hmm hope that is not an excuse. Have a great day all.

linworthlady
01-10-2003, 10:06 AM
Maemae-WTG for not splurging on cookies. Your kids will be so proud of you when you lose weight, especially when they reach their teens. Keep at it--feel fre to post here anytime.
Monet-Are you feeling any better? Your soup sounds really good. I might try that for lunch. I can't remember-are beans considered starchy carbs?
As the party started yet in FL? It sounds like there will be lots of good food there, for starters.

linworthlady
01-10-2003, 10:08 AM
Sweetbeater--Congrats on the big loss! Maybe this weekend you can get some veggies in the house.

maemae
01-10-2003, 10:28 AM
Thanks Linworthylady.....

I went to college in Charleston.........What a beautiful town.....

Ellen
01-10-2003, 10:44 AM
I just took a morning nap. I guess I did not sleep very well last night! It is a beautiful day here in the Peach State... sunny and warm for January! I may even go outside and walk instead of walking on the treadmill!


LIN: Beans are kind of a cross between starch and protein! They are rather low on the GI, so I don't worry too much about them. Go for it! You will know if you over do them. So will the rest of your family! :lol:

MAEMAE: Good for you resisting the cookies! If you are hungry all the time, try eating more protein. It sticks with you better. Carbs like bread only make you more hungry. Cheerios are considered ok, but they do have a high GI. You would be better off with a higher fiber cereal with a lower GI, like old fashioned oatmeal, or all bran. Actually, when I eat cereal for breakfast, I am starved all day! A couple eggs and a few strips of bacon stick with me much longer. I just don't eat carbs, like bread, with it to keep the insulin response to a minimum. According to Montignac, the father of SB, you should never combine carbs and fats. I am sure it is hard starting new eating habits, while trying to adjust to your new circumstances as a single mom. Just take baby steps. And as proud as your kids will be of mommy losing weight, do it for love of yourself as well. You deserve it. You deserve to feel good, and be healthy. You are obviously a warm, caring person. We are all here for you....

GRACIOUS: Shopping all day? (shudder) Not something I could do! I don't mind it for a little while, but I would rather find what I need, pay a decent price, and leave! I usually go looking for specific items, and have a strong idea of what I want in color and style before I enter the store. Am I weird? Maybe if I get to the point that clothes are easy to find in my size, and I look good in them (oh, about 40 more pounds at least) I will be more of a shopper! ;) So what all did you get? Thanks for sharing the greeting from Prairie and Lindakimmy. Tell them hi from me!

JACK: My soup turned out pretty good! Thanks for the idea! I don't think I can pull that off too often, but once in a while my husband does not mind a beany soup. He did complain of heartburn, but blamed it on the honey baked ham. ;)

linworthlady
01-10-2003, 10:48 AM
I just looked up my last thyroid test. I think it says my tsh is .545. BOB-Was it you who said it should be under 3? I better have it checked. Maybe I will check out the Mary Shomon book before I go to the dr.
Jack K--way to go on exercising even though you were tired. I bet you felt so good this morning when you woke up.
Gracious-Your shopping trip sounds exhausting, at least you didn't come home with candy. Wish I had that pot roast.
Quilter-I will look for the TaraPaca. I hope your stomach is feeling better.

I have a new Pilates class to go to at noon. TTYL

ldblond
01-10-2003, 11:07 AM
Remember me? Still around, but didn't get Dragonspeak, so my typing still limited. Thought this was a good Friday motivation, to get us all through the weekend (my worst time of the week for eating)

Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:58:08 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0

Today's thought is:
"Ambition, if it [is] to be savored, let alone achieved, [has] to be rooted
in possibility."

Many of us grew up with the message that it is not all right to be
overtly ambitious. Many of us have often strived unconsciously, setting
goals and reaching for that next rung, yet at the same time never
thinking we were ambitious. I recall my first rock-climbing trip, during
which I stood very frightened at the edge of a cliff over the water. The
leaders had trained us in rock craft skills; I was physically secure. Yet,
suddenly I felt tears streaming down my face. After asking myself what
my fears were about (was it height, trust, falling?), I sputtered, "I'm
afraid I won't achieve." I was dumbfounded at this discovery. While
our culture gives men permission to be ambitious, it trains women to
deny their ambitions. Perhaps this lies in Merriam-Webster's Collegiate
Dictionary's definition of ambition: "an ardent desire for rank, fame, or
power." Yet, Webster's also defines ambition as a "desire to achieve a
particular end." I think the latter is the definition that can motivate both
men and women.

Just for today, I shall stay focused on the big picture of where I am
going, knowing I can climb toward my goal, a step at a time.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Today's meditation comes from the book
Igniting the Spirit at Work by Marilyn Mason copyright 2001

Fillise
01-10-2003, 12:37 PM
Morning all! It is gorgeous here today, but supposed to be cold this weekend. I’m going shopping for a gown for Alabama’s Inaugural Ball on the 20th. I have one I could wear, but who can resist the fun of shopping for a new one—right?

Ldblonde—You are so right about not being taught to be overy ambitious—especially for women. I have to fight the “it’s not ladylike” to be aggressive in business all the time. There is subtle conditioning that we shouldn’t even want success—no wonder we continue to sabatoge ourselves!

Linworthlady—I can’t wait to hear about your Pilates class! I’m thinking about trying that myself!

Monet—it is gorgeous today isn’t it! Your soup sounds good. I think I have to support needed in the board to make you our official cook! I’m with you on the shopping—in and out. I’ll have fun tomorrow because it is fun to try on all the ball gowns, but usually I don’t want to spend all day looking.

Sweetbeater—4 lbs is great—WTG! I found that it really took my body a couple of weeks to get used to this WOE before it started letting go of the fat! You should also take your measurements because you will find that even if you hit a little plateau on the weight loss (and we all do from time to time) the inches will continue to disappear.

Maemae—at least you stayed legal! The emotional eating is the hardest to beat! This may sound corny, but do you do cross-stitch or needle point? Keeping your hands busy at night is helpful, but also the feeling of accomplishment as you get a little bit done each day helps to bolster the self-esteem!

Jackie—you are really getting close to 100 lbs lost! Wow! Good for you letting dh talk you into working out last night!

Gracious—whoa 10 hours! You can come with my SIL and I when we do our marathon 12 hour shop-fest the day after Thanksgiving (US)!

Kim—it’s work getting caught up, isn’t it? I love the part about the hunger pangs! We really do have to relearn what you body is telling us!

Adams—I try not to look at my BMI at all costs!!!!!! Seriously, it has been fun watching it come down over the last two years. I’ve already lost 10 BMI points. I’m still a looooong way from 25, but not as far away as I used to be!

Mom2Marsh—I’d go with Deb’s cheesecake recipe! I think there is a recipe for SF frosting on the back of some Splenda boxes.

TV—WAR EAGLE! Yeah Philip Rivers was told by both Alabama and Auburn that he might play at some position other than QB. So NC State got him and we LOVE him! I heard some folks on the Finebaum show a few weeks ago complaining that AU and UA let him get away.

Have a great day everyone!

Susan

Ellen
01-10-2003, 01:07 PM
FILLISE: Hey, being the boards official cook would be quite an honor! If it is going to be an election, you can be my campaign manager, ok? That means lots of dinner meetings at my house... :s:

LIN: It was me that was rattling on about TSH levels. I tend to get on my soapbox about thyroid stuff... If your TSH was .545 then you are fine. The normal range is from .5 to about 5.0 right now, but new research shows it should be .5 to 3.0 and many doctors are starting to follow the new guidelines. Unfortunately, many are not. I get so mad too! I have a friend who has a TSH of 4.6, she has gained about fifty pounds in the last two years, and her doctor won't consider she has thyroid problems. Her mother does, and weighs over 300 pounds. (and both of them are about 5'4" max) I know how frustrated she is about it all, but I can't convince her that the doctor is wrong about her thyroid and to go to a different doctor. I guess if my doctor and I ever get my metabolic problems straightened out and I lose she will listen more! sigh Thanks for asking how I am feeling. I am officially over the mono, unfortunately. I have to admit I enjoyed the vacation from responsibility! Now its back to getting up at 6 and doing housework! I would much rather veg all day and read! ;)

LDBLONDE: Of course we remember you! Good to see you back! Thanks for the motivation article. How are you feeling?

Mom2Marsh
01-10-2003, 02:17 PM
Good day ladies and gentleman,

I'm having a really good day today. I was so proud of my lunch today that I actually walked down the hall to show it off to my SB buddy. I had a peice of leftover roast, a big salad of all dark greens and fresh green beans very lightly steamed. The beans and salad actually took up 3/4 of my plate! For dessert I had some grapes. This time I think I've really got it. I wasn't even tempted by the new potatoes that were also in the fridge.

I've still got songs from "Bear in the Big Blue House" stuck in my head. I'm about ready to scream and ban that sweet bear from my household.

I'll post individually later. Just wanted to drop in while I had a minute.

--Kat

acw
01-10-2003, 03:04 PM
Hi guys, Saturday a.m here and everyones home so not much time today. A couple of quickies .... Are fruit leathers ok. They're no added sugar just dehydrated pureed fruit? Also what about diabetic jams, drinks etc are they ok once in a while?

Feeling good today.. now I say that I haven't had my happy pills so that's next stop. Trying to adapt eating where I can. I've had no white bread, rice or potatoes for 3 days and have increased the water levels..not straying far from the toilet tho!!!!

Have a good day all catch you later;)

Anna

DawnStorm
01-10-2003, 04:19 PM
OK, here goes; a little PG-13 rated--is that ok?
Dr. Brown pulled into a gas station on the outskirts of town to refuel his car. He's halfway through this when he sees the town gossip approaching him. "You've been out to the Jones' farm delivering their first child haven't you?" the gossip asks. Dr. Brown nods. The gossip leans closer, hoping for some juicy news. She asks if everything is OK and the doctor replies: "Mrs. Jones is doing just fine, but I'm worried about the baby. It was born without a penis." The gossip gasps, excuses herself, jumps in her car and roars back to town. As Dr. Brown is recapping the gas tank and paying the proprietor, he says to him, "you know I would've been really concerned if that baby girl was born with a penis!"
:lol: :lol:

amazahn
01-10-2003, 04:23 PM
Gosh I have lost 3 lbs... that was fast.

Question : Can I eat Cheerioes?

Solly
01-10-2003, 04:53 PM
Getting ready to head out. Going to happy hour (drinking water) and then to a really nice dinner for my 2 DD birthdays. One is Dec 6 and theother Feb 3 so we are doing a betweener. Not to worry about my eating tonite. They have lime beans and cauliflower that is to die for and a great salad. So add a petite steak and I will be legal.

Hope all the Orlando girls are having a great time. Thought w might hear from them.

Monet, When you get done, could you come clean out my junk drawer too? It really is full of junk. Loved the joke, I can really relate right now.

Maemae, I hate to tell you this but Subway wheat bread is legal. I really don't think you can find any wheat bread in restaurants that is 100% ww. It is all enriched. At least you were eating good things like fruit instead of candy and chips. Give yourself for some credit. Cheerios in the yellow box are legal. Good for yu trying to better yourself. I admire you for going back to college. I sure couldn't do it.

Sweetbeater, WTG on the 4 lbs. :cb: that is great. I eat better when working. If I am at home, I tend not to eat my fruit or drink my water. Here at work I have my routines and bring my legal food.

IDblond, so good to know you are still around. You really need to get the dragonspeak program so you can be with us more. Thanks for the MM. It is important to take 1 step at a time.

Mom2Marsh, Great lunch. You do have the hang of this. Keep up the good owrk.

Fillise, yo go girl, shop to you drop and find something sleek and sexy to wear. You deserve it.

ACW, it seems so funny that it is Sat there and still Friday afternoon here. Don't know what leathered fruit is, is it like dried fruit? I guess if there is no added sugar, they would be ok. All fruit, polander's simply fruit jams and jellies are ok. I buy diabetic catsup.

Amazahn- yes the ones in the yellow box.

Got to run, Have a great weekend.

Jackie

Ellen
01-10-2003, 05:08 PM
For those asking, as Jack-K said, Cheerios ARE legal, but according to Montignac, not the best choice for low GI cereal. So my advice is to go easy on them. But, if you want a great recipe for an easy legal snack, melt a bit of butter in a frying pan and add some Cheerios. Toast them until lightly browned, and salt to taste. They make a great crunchy, salty snack. Perhaps an addition of some salted nuts, and you can have your own snack mix. Who needs Chex? ;)

Today is BIG time PMS, and I have been really struggling with carb craving. So far, everything I have eaten is legal, but the quantities were probably too big. I am still laying off artificial sweetners and it is getting easier! Also, I have passed on the 70% chocolate. That was hard to do, but I think I need to wait on that stuff until I really get back on track.

This is day three of my increased thyroid meds, and I can really tell a difference. I am praying it translates into a difference on the scale as well!

Hard to believe I would be in Orlando at SolShines house by now... stupid car! The repair will cost over $600... :eek:

Have a great evening everyone! My daughter has a lock in at school all night, so it is just Hubby and I. We will probably go out to dinner...and since he is an SBer too...we will chose someplace to get legal stuff! Woo hoo! I don't have to cook! :dance:

Later! :wave:

linworthlady
01-10-2003, 05:15 PM
Monet-Thanks for the thyroid update. I was actually hoping maybe I needed a stronger dose of synthroid since I have a tough time losing. Oh well-I am due to get checked next month though. I hope the nap made you feel better. Have a good dinner. Love the Cheerios idea--might go try it now.
Maemae-did you go to the College of Charleston"? I've only lived here 5 months. It is beautiful, but I am so home sick right now I could just cry.

maemae
01-10-2003, 05:17 PM
Hi Linworthlady..........

No I actually went to Johnson & Wales University.....I studied to be a pastry chef (wow u should have seen me the first year)....LOL.....I nicknamed myself the pilsbury dough girl.....Where are you from originally?

SolShine
01-10-2003, 05:23 PM
SOLSHINE - They're here!!! Everyone got here within 5 minutes of each other ¡V PERFECT TIMING!!! We got the table set and started eating in record time. As always it was just like seeing good long-time friends. We played some games that DEBBIE planned for us and looked at pictures of each person throughout the years. (Some of these gals have come a LONG WAY!) We have taken lots of pictures and we all have our very own cookbook of recipes each person brought. We¡¦re going for another round of food and wondering what else DEBBIE has up her sleeve¡K. I¡¦m going to pass the keyboard to the next person as everyone wants to say HI. Who ever is typing will put their name at the beginning of the paragraph. :wave: See y¡¦all soon!

GatorGal here. We¡¦re having fun and lunch was delicious. I could give y¡¦all the menu but don¡¦t want to hog the board. Deb gave everyone a bag of Starbuck¡¦s coffee. BOB, I went ahead and took your bag. Was that OK!!!!?? ;)

BIGKNIGHTSMOMMA checking in, wish all of you couldbe here, we are having a GREAT time, lots of great food and friends. Take care,bye chris

It¡¦s Melf! BOB, Mel, Denise! We sure missed being able to meet you all. To the rest of you, listen, this is soooooooo great! We¡¦re having a blast. It¡¦s been non stop gut busting :lol: since Trish met me in Atlanta & even moreso after we all met Debbie. You guys ought to be here.

YellowRose here¡KWOW! This day has been soooo much fun. All the ladies have such great personalities and all are great. Debbie is the perfect hostess and showed us the finer places in Broward and Miami. I hope all of you will be able to do this soon. Sonya has been the most wonderful hostess here in Orlando. The lunch was amazing.

It¡¦s Trishaloo here. You guys are missing a wonderful time. Please rest assured that we¡¦re thinking of all of you. This is shaping up to be the bestest week-end ever. Lots of food, fun and frivolity going on, with lots more to come.

It¡¦s Tranquil ¡V Oh I am soooo stuffed! The food was incredible, the company is fantastic ¡V it was as though we had all known each other all our lives ¡V and our host and hostess and their baby pup have been wonderful! I am not going to want to go home ¡V I want the fun to never end! Sorry to miss those who were unable to come down!!!

Serene checking in ¡V I¡¦ve had my first legal meal in weeks and it was delicious. Wish
you all could have been here to share it with us, however, you are in our thoughts. A note to Quilter ¡V you
asked if I would cheat on my eating in front of other SB¡¦ers?? Well, yes, I probably would have, but there
was nothing off program to eat. LOL The wonderful time we have spent together today has helped me find
some motivation I¡¦ve been lacking, so I am going in the right direction. Have a great weekend everyone!

Debelli here! Hey All:wave: Well, what can I say? Being together with all these wonderful women has been, well, wonderful! And to think, the weekend has just begun! TRISH, MELF & ROSE arrived within a minute of each other ¡V what perfect timing, and what wonderful women! We had a blast yesterday, taking them to OLE OLE (of course) hitting the HFS¡¦s, a Carbolite treat (yummy), RIO CRYSTAL for dinner:s: then to Starbucks for coffee. Poor MELF, she was exhausted, almost awake for 24 hours, I don¡¦t think she knew she fell in to the bed!:eek: Woke up bright and early today and prepared the hummus and popped the quiche in to the oven. Loaded up the car, packed to the hilt with goodies galore. Arrived around 12:45pm at SOLSHINE¡¦S new home ¡V beautiful home! This house was meant to be for them. What a great host and hostess VINCE and Sonya have been, as usual. Wonderful to see everyone again, everyone looks wonderful. FOOD ¡V OMG! What a spread. We did it proud, don¡¦t you worry. If anyone thinks you can¡¦t eat well on SB, they are DEAD WRONG!!! Of course, we did take pictures of the food table;) Have had such a wonderful afternoon eating, talking, laughing, playing games (right now SERENE & ROSE are duking it out for a prize-they can¡¦t say Sugar, Diet or cross their legs!), OMG! Things just changed! ROSE walked in to the room and was reading what I was typing, so I said, ¡§read this¡¨,what I had just posted, about them, and she reads out loud and says ¡§SUGAR¡¨ so here I am, with her ¡§pins¡¨, so then, WENDY, wait, forget this, things have changed 5 times in the last 5 seconds! It¡¦s totally gone wacky here!!!! It¡¦s all in the name of fun:s: Boy, can they get nasty!!!!!!!!!;) Well, we are going to head over to the hotel in a little bit, more fun in store, VESNA is suppose to come join us later at some point, going to Carrabas for din-din, (like we haven¡¦t been eating all day long?), then back to the hotel for some more fun ¡V they don¡¦t have a clue!!!!!

Wish you could all be with us, hopefully, next time, and there will surely be a next time ¡V we have too much fun to stop!!!!

{{{HUGS}}}:grouphug:

Debbie

Ellen
01-10-2003, 05:49 PM
LIN: If you are still having trouble losing, and have any hypothyroid symptoms while your TSH is .545, it probably means you need T3 therapy. Check out the pages on About.com on thyroid. You can find some good scientific research to present to your doctor to help get him thinking in that direction. My TSH is very low too, but my doctor checks the full panel, and my T3 is below normal. If you don't convert the T4 you take to T3, which happens in some people, then your TSH will appear normal, but your metabolism still is not right. I did not start feeling better until the doctor put me on Armour, which has both. Then he switched me to T4(Unithroid) and a special forumlary of T3. What a difference it has made! Not in weight loss yet, but my skin is no longer dry and cracking, my hair is not falling out by the handful, I can sleep at night...etc. Mary Shomon talks about T3 therapy in her book. I guess you have it, right? I gave my copy to my doctor! Maybe that would help in your case? :)

MAEMAE: Did you finish your studies to be a pastry chef? My son in law is a chef,and is trying to decide if he wants to go the pastry direction, or not. He is playing with pulled sugar, and has me teaching him gumpaste and cake decorating. I wish I had gone to school and become a chef. I think it would be fun!

GatorGal
01-10-2003, 05:49 PM
OK, I'm home now and can post a little longer. My DH is on the board of the symphony, and there is a program tonight, so we are going! I noticed that the type appeared wierd a few places in the above post from Solshine's. We typed it all in Word, and then cut and pasted it. Some things goofed up in the pasting, I think.

Menu: roasted tomato tart with boursin and ricotta cheese, Rotel cheese dip with triscuits, hummus with WW pita, Greek salad, chicken salad, spinach and broccoli quiche, crustless cheesecake, olives, greenbean salad, greek dip, and, hmmmm, let's see, I can't remember if there was anything else. It all was delicious.
We did a lot of talking and passing around pictures. YellowRose looks fab. She has changed a lot from her pictures, as has Melf. Big Knight's Momma came with her son, who dropped her off. He definitely is a BIG Knight.
We played some fun games: One that Debbie told you about re. the crossed legs and not saying sugar or diet. Another was where we all were given a card with stickers on it. The object was to try to put a sticker on the back of someone else in the room without their knowing about it. The first person to get rid of all their stickers won. And organized Debbie had beautiful gold wrapped prizes for all the games.
One honored guest was Solshine's cute little dog, Vixen. She has lots of personality and will sit, lay down and play dead when Sol points her finger and says "bang." The dog does not sit around and bark her head off, but just looks cute, which dogs are supposed to do.

BOB, Monet and hmmm. who else was it (I'm gettiing the forgetful disease) we were so sorry you could not be there. It was fun this afternoon, and I know the girls will have fun tonight too.

The race starts about 5:30 am. and everyone was thinking about how early that it to get up. Oh well, it is only once a year, and they are talking about bringing flashlights because it will still be dark. Debbie brought noise makers so they can be identified as a group when she runs/walks by.

Just wanted to bring everyone up to date. Gotta go and straighten up the kitchen before DH gets home.

maemae
01-10-2003, 05:51 PM
Yes Monet I did finish my studies at Johnson & Wales ..........but never did anything with it....I graduated in 1992 and went into the airline industry.....I would love to do it but being a single mom I need my weekends and nights off and also the holidays....But it was a wonderful experience.....

Ellen
01-10-2003, 05:52 PM
Aw, I wish I was with all you gals in Orlando! sniff sniff.

I had the best ensemble for the activities tonight too... :s:

Next time... can't wait...

Fillise
01-10-2003, 06:06 PM
It certainly sounds like the gals in Orlando are having a blast! Hope to hear more from you over the weekend.

Monet--I come from a family with a history of underactive thyroid. My Mother and her mother both have it as do several of her sisters. I've been tested and told I'm in the low normal range--but I have no idea what my actual TSH reading is. I need to ask my Dr. about it the next time I go. I certainly fight the fatigue, I could literaly sleep the day away most days. Since I work at home, I will often lay down for 20 or 30 minutes in the afternoon because I am so tired--and this is even when I'm 100% OP so I know it's not a blood sugar dip. I think I need to be tested again.

To all the orlando gals--don't get lulled into a false sense of security. Deb is all fun and games now, but just when you let your guard down you will find yourself chained to the walls of the dungeon and the mistress is commence her torture!!!!!!

Susan

THE BIG ORANGE BABE
01-10-2003, 06:58 PM
Women Beware!




Most of you have read the scare-mail about the person whose kidneys were stolen while he was passed out-well read on. While that was an "urban legend" this one is not. It's happening every day....

My thighs were stolen from me during the night of August 3rd a few years ago. It was just that quick.

I went to sleep in my body and woke up with someone else's thighs. The new ones had the texture of cooked oatmeal. Who would have done such a cruel thing to legs that had been wholly, if imperfectly, mine for years? Whose thighs were these? What happened to mine?



I spent the entire summer looking for them. I searched, in vain, at pools and beaches, anywhere I might find female limbs exposed. I became obsessed. I had nightmares filled with cellulite and flesh that turns to bumps in the night.

Finally, hurt and angry, I resigned myself to living out my life in jeans and Sheer Energy pantyhose. Then, just when my guard was down, the thieves struck again.

My buns were next. I knew it was the same gang because they took pains to match my new derriere (although badly attached at least three inches lower than the original) to the thighs they had stuck me with earlier. Now my rear complimented my legs, lump for lump. Frantic, I prayed that long skirts would stay in fashion.



It was 2 years ago when I realized my arms had been switched. One morning while fixing my hair, I watched, horrified but fascinated, as the flesh of my upper arms swung to and fro with the motion of the hairbrush. This was really getting scary. My body was being replaced, cleverly and fiendishly, one section at a time.

Age? Age had nothing to do with it. Age was supposed to creep up, noticed and intangible, something like maturity. NO, I was being attacked, repeatedly and without warning.

During one spring, my attention was riveted to upper arms... female arms. I studied them from every angle, being careful not to raise mine in public or flatten them too tightly against my body.

In private, I held them straight out and did endless circles that would have tightened my real arms but did nothing for these new "Silly-Putty" caricatures.



In the end, in deepening despair, I gave up my T-shirts. What could they do to me next? My eyes began to remind people that they needed a new pair of Hush Puppies. My poor neck disappeared more quickly than the Thanksgiving turkey it now reminded me of.

That's why I've decided to tell my story; I can't take on the medical profession by myself. Women of America, wake up and smell the coffee! That isn't really "plastic" those surgeons are using. You know where they're getting those replacement parts, don't you?

The next time you suspect someone has had a face "lifted," look again! Was it lifted from you? Check out those tummy tucks and buttocks raising. Look familiar? Are those your eyelids on that movie star?

I think I finally may have found my thighs.... and I hope Cindy Crawford paid a really good price for them!

VR
01-10-2003, 08:10 PM
You really had me laughing!!! I really needed that.

I'm so jealous of all the goings on in FL.... You girls have fun!!

I need to catch up with the board tonight. I had a "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" project to finish and have been working until midnight or later everynight.. Thank God I work from my home!

Gotta run but just had to check in..

Toni48
01-10-2003, 09:21 PM
Yikes I got about 5 pages behind and have just spent for ever reading all the posts. I won't even try to post to everyone indivially. Just glad to see everyone is doing fine and the girls are having a blast in Florida.... Maybe next year a bunch more of us can go. I'll try and keep up better than I did today....




213/166/130

linworthlady
01-10-2003, 10:31 PM
Oh boy does the Florida trip sound fun and tasty!!
Thanks for the advice about T3 I'll look into it.
Does anyone know where the recipe for Deb's cheesecake is? There are a couple on the recipe board and I didn't know which is the best.
I am originally from Columbus, OH Maemae. I lived there all my life so this move is hard on me. Johnson and Wales is moving to another city and everyone here is sad about it. Charleston has great chefs that trained there.

The Quilter
01-10-2003, 11:30 PM
Here's just a good night quickie!!! Sounds like the meeting of the minds is going well in FL. I hope you all have so much more fun.

SOL---Thanks for loaning everyone your keyboard.

GATOR---Thanks for the more detailed report. Sounds like a little slice of SF heaven down there right now. I hope the weather is going to cooperate for you all this weekend.

Good night!
Kim

The Quilter
01-10-2003, 11:32 PM
LIN----I don't know where the cheesecake recipe is on the board, but I have it in a recipe file on my hard drive. (much easier for me to find!) Here it is. It's so easy to make. I always thought it was going to be hard, but it's so easy. I think I will make it tomorrow, since I've got two perfectly good packages of cream cheese sitting in the fridge. Try it . . . you'll LOVE it!!!!!


Kim

DEBS CRUSTLESS CHEESECAKE

2 packages Philadelphia Brand 1/3 Less Fat Cream Cheese
1/2 cup agave syrup, (you can actually use 1-2tbl less)
3 eggs
1/2 tsp vanilla extract
1/2 tsp lemon juice

Spray a 7" cake pan with cooking spray. Cut a circular piece of parchment paper to fit in the bottom of the pan. Spray the top of the paper.

Bring cream cheese to room temperature in a medium size bowl. Cream with a mixer. Add the agave syrup and mix on low speed, just til blended. Add both the vanilla and lemon juice and blend in. Add one egg at a time, beating on low speed til mixed in before adding the next one.

Pour mixture into pan and put in a 325 degree preheated oven. Place cheesecake in oven and bake for approx 40 minutes, or until lightly browned on top and it looks set. Remove from oven and let cool for about 30-45 minutes. Place in fridge for at least 3 hours. I invert my cake over a plate and tap the bottom of the pan with a knife to get it to come out, nice and clean. Peel off the parchment paper and then turn it back the right way on a serving dish. You can also serve it right out of the pan, just don't eat the parchment paper!!! ENJOY!

NOTE: You could most likely use a small springform pan, like a 7 1/2" one if they have that size, but I don't have one at this time, so used what I had available, a small cake pan. I also put a pan of water on the rack underneath to help it from cracking, which it never did-not sure if this helped, or not.

If you are going to double the recipe use a 9 1/2" springform pan as well as measuring the agave to 3/4 cup. If you want to keep it from cracking on the top, go to either of the sites below for directions on hot to do a WATERBATH.

adams
01-11-2003, 12:15 AM
Fillise:
If I drop 10 on BMI I will be good to go.

On Cheerios, they don't seem too legal but I'm new.

Ingredients:
whole grain oats, modified corn starch, wheat starch, sugar, salt some other stuff

1 CUP 22g of carbs
fiber 3g (soluable fiber 1g)
sugars 1g
other carbs 18g

I thought modified corn starch wasn't good, wheat starch looks questionable.

GI-74

sef
01-11-2003, 12:29 AM
HiedieHo All!!

Have been so busy! Need to stay home more. It's just everything starting up again after the holiday hiatus!

JACKK: Split pea soup is easy. I save the ham bone (we don't cut too close to the bone so there is meat on it). Put in kettle and cover w/ water, bring to a boil and simmer an hour or so. Let cool until you can handle it and pick meat off bone. If the broth seems a little too fatty, chill it an skim off fat. Put meat into broth, add a medium chopped up large onion, coarsely grated carrot or two, bring to a boil, add dried split peas that have been rinsed and picked clean, simmer an hour or so until peas are done, salt and pepper to taste (sometimes a TEENSY pinch of cloves is a nice touch). The soup thickens as it cooks and you may have to add some water along the way. The peas do not hold their shape so you have a creamy textured soup. I used to add a diced potato but found it doesn't need it. One of my fav soups! Soup is something that doesn't need strict measurements. There is a recipe on the bag you can follow if you like to be exact.

MAE: Welcome!

SOL: More congrats to your Princess!

MIATA: I love acorn squash and use it on this plan. I usually cut it in half, scoop out seeds, put some butter in cavity and sprinkle on Splenda or Bronwb Sugar substitute or agave and bake it. It's quick and easy in microwave but prefer it oven baked.

MONET: Hope you feel better soon.

615: Welcome

DEB: Condolencwes to your family.

ADAMS: Sweet 'n Low has a good chocolate syrup. I use it to make shakes, etc. To taste it by itself has an aftertaste but mixed in something it's fine.

Have been sitting here too long. The board has been so busy and it takes a while to catch up! Will finish reading tomorrow.

Okay FF:

WHEN REALITY SETS IN

1. Eventually you will reach a point when you stop lying about
your age and start bragging about it.

2. Don't let anyone tell you you're getting old. Squash their
toes with your rocker.

3. The older we get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line
for.

4. Some people try to turn back their odometers. Not me. I want
people to know why I look this way. I've traveled a long way
and some of the roads weren't paved.

5. Maturity means being emotionally and mentally healthy. It is
that time when you know when to say yes and when to say no,
and when to say WHOOPEE!

6. How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?

7. When you are dissatisfied and would like to go back to youth,
think of Algebra.

8. You know you are getting old when everything either dries up
or leaks.

9. I don't know how I got over the hill without getting to the
top.

10. The golden years are really just metallic years, gold in the
tooth, silver in your hair, and lead in the rear.

11. Life would be infinitely happier if we could only be born at
the age of 80 and gradually approach 18.

12. One of the many things no one tells you about ageing is that
it is such a nice change from being young. One must wait
until evening to see how splendid the day has been.

13. Age seldom arrives smoothly or quickly. It is more often a
succession of jerks.

14. Yeah, being young is beautiful, but being old is comfortable.

15. Old age is when former classmates are so gray and wrinkled,
and blind they don't recognize you.

16. If you don't learn to laugh at trouble, you won't have
anything to laugh at when you are old.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST ___
17. First you forget names, then you forget faces.

********************************************

_______ETERNAL TRUTHS

1. _Once over the hill, you pick up speed.

2. _I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food

3. _If it weren't for STRESS I'd have no energy at all.

4. _Whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.

5. _Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film.

6. _Dogs have owners. Cats have staff

7. _If the shoe fits......buy it in every color.

8. _If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.

9. Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.

10. _If you look like your passport picture, you probably need the trip.

11. _Bills travel through the mail at twice the speed of checks.

12. _Some days are a total waste of makeup. __

13. _Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it.

14. _A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand.

15. Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of the waist change places.

16. _Opportunities always look bigger going than coming.

17. _Junk is something you've kept for years and throw away three weeks before you need it.

18. _Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.

19. _By the time you can make ends meet, they move the ends.

10. _Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself

Keep smiling, it makes everyone .... wonder what you've been up to

Goodnight all!

Shirley

miata1997
01-11-2003, 03:12 AM
Hello!!!

Miata here...day 8 almost over, doing well. Passed up fresh baked scones and warm rice pudding at my quilt meeting..drank coffe and ate an apple and some triscuits..it was just fine. I really wanted them but decided it would be better for me not to. Drank lots of water and will go to Curves tomorrow.


Quilter..I am a machine piecer and quilter. Sometimes I think I am really awful. My main goal in quilting is to make beautiful colorful quilts..I don't like using only 3 colors, I have to use 100!! I really enjoy it .

Well getting tired so better go to bed..

Miata/Kathy

SolShine
01-11-2003, 08:07 AM
COME ON NOW..... EVERYBODY SING ALONG WITH ME..............


I am soooooo tired! We left my house and went to the hotel so the gals could check in. DEBBELLI, BKM and TRISHALOO all in one room and in the adjoining room (with a door between the rooms) was MELF and YELLOWROSE. Across the hall TRANQUIL and SERENITY (which may have been the room to end up in as it was away from the PART-TAY!)

We called VESNOID and she and her new Morrocan roomie, Sonna, came to meet us at Carraba's for dinner. Sonna has been in the US for 5 days - I hope she doesn't think all Americans are like us! :o We had a blast at the restaurant. Vesna tried to start a food fight with the bread on the table curled up into little balls thrown at Debbie, but it didn't get too out of hand. BKM is very aware of her surroundings, but I'm gonna let her explain that one! :eek:

Back at the hotel we had our gift exchange and everyone got wonderful little momentos to take home with them. I got a killer votive candle holder in a curved wire frame - very "artsy-fartsy" and cool looking. We had played a toilet paper game prior to that and since TRISHALOO won that game she went last on the present drawing.

Then we had the most glamorous SUGAR BUSTER SECRETS STRUT YOUR STUFF ON THE CATWALK LINGERIE FASHION SHOW....even SONNA participated whole-heartedly. We have told DEBBIE those will need to be kept off the board, but I have a feeling they will be e-mailed.

I left at 12:00am and they were still going full force. It's almost 8am now and I have to head out to meet them for b'fast. Today is a pontoon boat ride/tour through the Winter Park Chain of Lakes and gawking at awesomely multi-million dollar homes. Shopping (of course) and, with DEBBIE, who knows what else!!

I'm going to print out the replies to share this morning. Everyone is truly thinking about y'all and wishing EVERYONE could be here with us!! BOB, MEL, MONET, DENISE - we are including y'all in every conversation, to be sure!!

:wave: toodles

Zanne
01-11-2003, 09:59 AM
Hi All!

Just a quickie--gotta get ready for the family coming over to celebrate my dad's birthday.

Sounds like the FLORIDA BUNCH is having a GREAT time!

Well, I've lost 2 of the 5 lbs I was up this past WIW. Let's hope they stay lost!

MONET--I've been reading with great interest all you have to say about thyroid. I've been on meds for about 12 years. I'm finding it very difficult to lose weight and have been getting really tired in the afternoon and feeling really cold at times. I'm not quite as bad as I was 12 years ago, but I think it's time to go get some blood work done. THANKS for all you've shared.

Ok, I better go!

Hope EVERYBODY has a great SB day!

THE BIG ORANGE BABE
01-11-2003, 12:06 PM
Afternoon Every Buddy!!! :wave:


Hope everyone's weekend is going well. Looks like I'm missing a really good time over in O'town. Knowing Debbie as I do, they will hit every HFS within driving distance! Hope they listen to her,
she knows her stuff!

SUSAN sent me an APB and I thought I had better get on her to prove that I'm still kickin & breathin :dizzy:

My week has been very hectic. Winter is our biggest season down here and it seems like everyone from the north waits until they get down here to go to the hospital! :eek:

I haven't been able to get anything done around the house during the week, so today is laundry day and believe me it's piled high!

HELLO to all the new people...

BOB

CountryMom4Him
01-11-2003, 12:08 PM
Sounds like you ladies are having a blast in Florida. (((hugzzz)))

Sweetbeater WTG on the 4 pounds that is wonderful.

Miata...good deal passing up the fresh scones..I know that was a toughy. When I make my family bisucits I just drool. They enjoy them on a regualr basis. I tease them and say "it's just not right"...LOL

Adams...hang in there. You'll drop that BMI. Mine has went down app. 12 points since losing the weight.

Hi Toni! I agree this board is hopping. I love it..even though I too get way behind.

MaeMae...how cool to be a pastry chef. When I was growing up my cousin and I were gonna be chefs..LOL You should have seen some of our crazy concoctions. I'm no chef but I cook too good for my own good. I told my husband I wouldn't have ever gotten fat if I didn't like my own cookin' so good. I think it's all that traditional southern food...family recipes passed down from generation to generation. Not to mention the cajun influnece from my mom's side.

Gator...how was the symphony? That is one thing I've always wanted to see.

Well I'm freezing and starving...guess that means I should get up and get moving. Have a super weekend all.

Love,
Crystle

235/155:) /140-135

Fillise
01-11-2003, 12:13 PM
It is a glorious morning here, but cold. Got down to 25 here last night--which is darn cold for Alabama, so I don't want to hear you Canada girls snickering!;)

Scale seems to be beginning to move in the right direction now--I've lost 2.5 lbs since Wednesday.

Went to Walmart yesterday and stocked up on good foods--SF yogurt (I have one as a snack about 10:00 every morning), fruit, salad fixins, mixed nuts, eggs, and cheese. I should be good to go with no excuses for not having the right foods around. This morning I got up and got my bread started so I will have a fresh loaf of WW bread in a few hours. That will last me the week. I've got homeade spaghetti sauce thawing in the fridge for some WW pasta tonight. When I finish eating leftover pasta for lunch then I will make some split pea soup. I do better if I have something in the fridge that I can easily heat up for lunch.

I'm going to have to plan ahead to get through next week's inaugural fesitvities. I have a breakfast and a luncheon on Sunday the 19th--and then it is nothing but receptions for the next day and a half. I may have to take a cooler with some bag lettuce and some tuna for emergencies. Help me think I stuff that doesn't have to be cooked!

Zanne--WTG on the 2 lbs! Relosing weight is a pain, but it is better than regaining!

Sol--OK, I think I speak officially for the entire board when I say we are jealous!!!!! It sounds like you are having a great time!

Miata--Nice willpower! Really those things would have made you feel soooo bad. And here you are feeling strong and successful! You go girl! I've always wanted to try quilting, but it would have to be by hand as I have a phobia about sewing machines!:lol:

Sef--Love the funnies--esp the "how old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?" I'm thinking about 22.

Adams--BMI is a rough estimate because it can't tell between fat and muscle. So if you workout a lot--esp weight training then you need to have your body fat measured b/c the weight/height won't tell the whole story. I don't eat cheerios because of the added starches. The grain is OK I think, but the next three ingredients are starch, starch, sugar. They have a GI of 74 (glucose) and a GL of 15, which puts it in the high GI and moderate GL range. It's about the same as Special K--which I do eat on occasion, so I suppose it's not the worst thing one could eat--especially in the morning (the SB authogs have suggested that if you are going to take a carb hit during the day--morning is the time to do it). I know you didn't ask about the Cheerois, but I can't remember who did!

BOB--excatly when did they come steal my mind? (BTW-- J-Lo has my bootie! )

OK--got to get showered and dressed to go look for my ball gown. I'll let you know if I find anything!

Susan

THE BIG ORANGE BABE
01-11-2003, 12:22 PM
WHY AREN'T THE COLOR TAGS WORKING ON THE BOARD????

BOB

miata1997
01-11-2003, 01:38 PM
Just wanted to say Good Morning to you all!!! Doesn't the reports from Florida sound fun??? I know I have only been here 9 days, but I wish I was there!!! And I have always wanted to go to Disney World..I also want to go to the Keys..Someday I will. Some lady that came to get a mammo last year told me that if Floriada they have these weekend ferry trips to The Bahammas and it is cheaper then doing the big cruise thing...Is that true?? Can you get to the Bahamas by ferry??? I want to meet my daughter someplace next year and Florida might just do it..She will prob be stationed in New Jersey and since I would really rather meet her somewhere, Florida with the possibility of Bahammas would be spendid.

Had a good night at work last night, ate well, drank my water and as soon as my shredded wheat digest a bit, I wll get to Curves. We are having Terikki chicken (Sugars at 2) and I will try my new rice cooker. I wanted a cooker that makes brown rice perfect every time so I decided to buy one with christmas money. Cant wait to try it. Will have vegies of course, Got to work on my house today, dd is coming in 9 days and if i don't get her room cleaned she will have to sleep in the trailer..That is not homie!!! Want to clean up my quilt room too, my other dd bought me a dvd player so i can watch movies and quilt at the same time..I can't wait to set it up.

Well got to get to go to Curves..

bye for now

K

The Quilter
01-11-2003, 02:18 PM
Hi All!

I just got off the phone with DEB, SONYA, CHRIS, WENDY, SABRINA AND MARY!!! When I answered the phone, there was so much noise in the background I thought it was a telemarketing call. Funny, huh?

Anyways, they wanted me to report in to all of you that Saturday is going well. There's a little bit of skuttlebutt about the pictures of the fashion show. Not really, they are all laughing about it. During the course of the conversation, they were on a bus and then into individual cars. (When DEB started passing the phone around, she had real trouble getting it back!) They were off for a boat ride and then onto shopping.

Remember to send them some good thoughts because they are going to have to get up REALLY early in the morning tomorrow. I think the spectators have to check in my 5 a.m. Yikes!!! That means those night owls are going to have to call it a day early tonight.

Okay, there's the report. Let's keep talking all weekend. Those of us who are keeping the home fires burning can still keep up the thread burning too. DEB said she would try to call tomorrow after the race. I'm sure she'll be exhausted, but all psyched up from making it through such a big race.

Take care. Enjoy your Saturday!
Kim

Nomoresugar
01-11-2003, 03:50 PM
Sweetbeater – I would love a two-pound loss – remember that this is not a quick weight loss program! Every pound gone is a victory!!!!

Monet – Wow – what a tale about your dd and the young man stalking her. I do hope it resolves itself without the authorities – but if not – call the police fast.

Big Orange Babe- thanks for the laugh. I have seen that one before but it always makes me chuckle!

Solshine – Wow – sounds like the gang in Orlando is having a blast! Even tho I am a relatively new poster here – I would LOVE to see those pictures of the “fashion show”!!

Zanne – great 2 pound loss!

Quilter – If you speak to the gals again – tell them this Florida granny is rooting for them!

I’m still working on that 5 pound damage done over the holidays. Hopefully, it will be gone by the end of the month.
:lol:

Toni48
01-11-2003, 04:11 PM
Good afternoon everyone. Time to just relax, I've cleaned my butt off in my house today. To bad I let it almost get way to far ahead of me before I finally tackle it.. We burn wood in the winter and oh it makes a mess.

linworthlady- Yummy you'll love it.... Glad The Quilter posted the recipe. Cause I was racking my pea brain trying to think where it was...

adams- I thought they were okay but when you write the stuff out it sure sounds questionable.

Sef- Your split pea soup sounds good. Thanks for posting it..

miata- Maybe you ought to take Deb's cheesecake next time to your quilt meeting. My family loves it.. You're doing great. Keep up the good work.. You're doing so good, keep up the good work... You sure make me wish there was a curves near by..

Solshine- Oh thank you so much for posting about the grand time you're all having... It sounds like a blast.....

Zanne- Congrads on the 2lbs.

Bob- Howdy there gal... Glad to hear all is going well in your world..

CountryMom-All ya have to do is blink your eye and there 4 pages gone!!! Are you doing any walking?

Fillise- Woo hoo girl 2.5 lbs is great.... You're going to have a great WIW. OOO good luck on finding the prettiest ball gown ever. Sounds like you're really stocked up. Thats great, I love it when I get already for battle...

The Quilter- Yea hoo on the girls all having a good time. They will sure be in my thoughts as they race... I can just imagine what fun they're having.. I'll sure and be on here.

Well guess I'm at the end. Just had some almonds. Yummy... Have a great afternoon...

213/166/130

Toni48
01-11-2003, 04:13 PM
nomoresugar- Guess we were posting at the same time.. Hope everything is going well with you....

Ellen
01-11-2003, 04:50 PM
Good Saturday afternoon, everyone!

I just got back from a farmer's market here, that I had not been to in probably two years. I had a blast! They had whole wheat pasta, fresh, and the largest selection of organic cheeses I have seen at any store ever! They even had a block of organic reduced fat cheddar! I got bison and ostrich meats to try, and lots of veggies. They even had two kinds of peach teas! I love peach tea, and the kind I liked was discontinued several years ago, so I am looking forward to trying both the ones I got today. I have a pot of one of them steeping and a cup here by the computer. Its pretty good!

It is a pretty day here, but cold! Only about 40. I know that sounds mild to the northerners, but it is cold for here. It doesn't bother me as much as my husband, since I grew up in Chicago.

I need to go and make something for dinner. I have a bunch of veggies I need to use! :)

Mel
01-11-2003, 07:51 PM
I haven't even read the board since Wednesday, I was so depressed at not going to FL. Now I'm even more depressed.... they're all having such a great time and I'm here fighting with ds about homework. But I don't have to get up at 3:30 tomorrow morning. There's one consolation. My ankle is an interesting shade of purple/green now. I can walk and do some gym work, did a session on the recumbent bike this morning, but running is still out.

OK, enough whining.

Glad the FLA bunch are having a great time. Hello to everyone. I have to go grocery shopping- nothing legal in the house. Doesn't everyone do their shopping on Saturday night?

mel

adams
01-11-2003, 10:16 PM
Just FYI for rice lovers.

I have never been a fan of brown rice, however, we picked up some Texmati long grain american basmati brown rice and I think it is great.

Basmati brown rice is probably the best rice you can get for SB.

GatorGal
01-11-2003, 10:21 PM
monet--I looked all over and can't find my latest copy of my lab report last time I got a physical. So don't know what my TSH or T4 levels are. Last year, in 2001, they were T-4 11.2, which the report shows as in normal range, and TSH at 6.91 which is out of range. So, I'll go by my dr.'s office this week and look at the report. Also, did you post a good Thyroid web site on any of your posts this week? I thought you did, but couldn't find it.

We just got back from Gainesville where we had a fabulous time. The basketball game against UGa was great, and the Gators pulled out a win by sinking a 3 pointer at the buzzer. Very exciting.

Gotta go. It's late and I have some things still to do.

linworthlady
01-11-2003, 11:26 PM
Thanks for the report from the FL gang. I think they are having too much fun. I wonder what this lingerie fashion show is all about.
Monet-Farmers market stuff sounds great. Let me know how you like the meat.
Toni-get some rest. Isn't it great when the house is clean though?
Mel-Sorry about your ankle. I must have missed the post? What happened exactly?
Someone asked about Pilates--I like the class so far. It is not strenuous, but I think it will be great for toning. There is a lot of breathing and awareness of different muscles--that part will take practice. My teacher has the flattest stomach I've ever seen --I hope mine shrinks at least a little bit.
Susan-When is the inaugural ball? Are you married to a governor? Tell us about your dress, if you bought one.

Ellen
01-12-2003, 12:55 AM
MEL: Hope your ankle gets better soon! The colors sound so pretty! ;)

ADAMS: I love that Texmati brown basmati! I don't use rice too often, since it is a rather high GI, but once in a while, you just gotta have rice! Recently, I made some lentils, and they were a great 'starch' with a very low GI. I just sauteed an onion, some garlic and a carrot and threw it in with the lentils when they were just about done.

Gator: I did mention a good thyroid page. Here is the address:

http://thyroid.about.com/mbody.htm

They even have forums on there for different aspects of thyroid disease. Check it out! I am not sure what the individual normal levels are for the T3 and T4, but you can probably find all kinds of info on the pages. You might want to get a copy of Living Well With Hypothyroidism, by Mary Shomon too. It covers everything. She is the moderator for About.com's thyroid site. I am glad you had an exciting time at the basketball game. I love watching basketball. So fast paced! You can't get bored!

LIN: I had Bison this past summer in North Dakota, and it was dry but tasty. I could hardly tell it was not hamburger. I think the restaurant where we had it over cooked it. A lady at the farmers market said you need to keep it on the rare side. Now sure about the ostrich... Have you ever had either one of them?

Fillise
01-12-2003, 10:49 AM
Hey!

I'm happy to report the shopping trip was a success. I found a beautiful gown that actually makes me look like I have a waist! It is a black, full length full skirt (chiffon over satin) and a top that is black with silver beading. The top is scalloped and comes to a point in the front--hence the "waist." I can't wait to wear it! I also picked up a red knit sweater dress and red pumps to match--and oh yeah there were the black pumps that were a steal on sale. I did some damage yesterday!

We had dinner at Carraba's last night--my first experience there. I'm happy to report that I had no bread (even though it smelled heavenly and I was famished) and had salmon and green beans for dinner. I didn't even have any pasta as I had my starchy carbs earlier in the day. The salmon was excellent and I was satisfied but not stuffed after dinner.

Monet--I don't eat rice much either--just on occasion. My favorite starchy carb is pasta followed by sweet taters.

Linworthlady--Um, not married to a governor, but I am a political consultant and one of my clients in the last election cycle is being inaugurated a week from Monday (Jan 20th). I am proud to count Alabama's new Governor and his wife as friends, but I ain't married to him! :lol:

I'll try to check back in this afternoon--got church duties to attend to now!

Have a great day everyone,
Susan

Toni48
01-12-2003, 12:24 PM
Good Sunday everyone. We're really cold here in Missouri. Brr..... Guess we'll probably be like that the rest of Feb. Got on the scale this morning and I'm a little bit up from last week. But always seem to do that when I have a big loss. Will try and lighten up on the starchy carbs. See what WIW brings.

Monet- LUCKY you girlfriend, wow the farmers market... I would love to get some bison and yummy peach tea.. I would want to make that my regular stop..

Meliris- I'm soooo sorry you didn't get to go on the trip to Florida. Hopefully next year, and it will be a blast then too.. Hope your ankle is hurting to bad but bet you're so uncomfortable. I sure don't blame you for being depressed....

adams- Where did you find that rice. I'll be here in our little area they've never heard of it... But I'm writing down the name of it just in case.

Gatorgal- Sounds like the game was fun and glad you had a good time.

linworthlady- Howdy there.... Hope you're doing great.

Fillise- Oh I'm so glad you found a beautiful dress. Hope you show us a picture of you in it... Hurrah for you with doing so well at dinner. When you're really hungry is when its the hardest..

Well I don't have much planned except a lazy day so guess I'll go and start it.. LOL.... Can't wait to hear how the Florida girls are doing...

213/166/130

THE BIG ORANGE BABE
01-12-2003, 01:55 PM
AFTERNOON TO ALL YOU BUSTERS!!!

I've just returned from WALMART in
record time! I was on a mission and actually followed my list (for once :eek: ). Had to return my phone and get one that I could actually hear out of!

SUSAN....You might as well be the FIRST LADY OF ALABAMA!!! you did the work to get him elected!
You dress sounds absolutely beautiful....PICTURES PLEASE!!!!
I know you have some taken at the ball...and we want some of that RED DRESS TOO!!! Girl, you'll be "stylin" What did you get BELLE to wear?

TONI...WHAT'S UP???? It was cold here last night and only in the 50's today...We're supposed to have two weeks of bitter cold the last of Jan and the first of FEB...I'll have to get my sweater coat out... ;)

MEL....I hope your ankle is feeling better..Remember what I told you....take it easy...

MONET...Sorry we both had to be sidelined from O'town...It sounds like they are having a really good time! I know that Debbie will rub it in on both of us...I too vote you the board cook!

QUILTER..... OH....MY....GAWD!!!!! WHO PULLED YOU OUT OF THE WOODWORK?????? Welcome home
sweetie...we've really missed you. NOW...GET BACK ON HERE AND DO SOME POSTING!!! :p

Sorry, I can't post and watch this ballgame....I'm not a pro fan, but the BUC'S are ahead right now...
It would be nice to have the locals at least get to the super bowl!

I'll check in later...

BOB



Here is SUSAN'S CROWN for THE BALL!!!

Serene
01-12-2003, 02:05 PM
Hi everyone!

I'm home from Orlando and thought I'd make a quick post before crawling in the bed for some rest. Can’t imagine why I would be so tired. LOL


Sadly, I wasn't able to go with everyone to the marathon this morning to cheer Deb on.:cry: Tranquil was running a fever last night and feeling much worse, so it seemed best to head for home instead. I’m afraid the boat ride yesterday, with the chilly wind was what might of made her worse. Hopefully, she can spend a day resting in bed and feeling better for work tomorrow.

It was cold in Orlando this morning and I felt sorry for Deb having to run in that kind of weather. I'm going to try to call her in a little while and find out how the race went. There were 22,000 registered to run, can you imagine??

I had such a fabulous time with everyone and I’m missing them already. All of the ladies are just awesome and so much fun to be with. After the initial meeting and putting names with faces, it was like a reunion with long time friends. I wish all of you could have been with us.

I’m going to try to post a few pics from the weekend that I took with my digital camera. I’m not sure if I will post any from the famous fashion Show. Think I might let Deb take on that responsibility. I will probably post my own though. And of course I wore a big blonde wig for the finishing touch on my night wear. Deb also doubled dared me to wear it to breakfast on Saturday morning, so you know I did! Can’t begin to tell you how funny it was with all the laughs and looks I was getting from all the people in the dining room. You will see what I mean when you see the pics.

Kim, it was sure great to speak with you for the first time on the phone. It Was nice to put a voice with the pictures I’ve seen. Hope you can make it next time we have a get together.

Well, I’m off to lay in bed and maybe watch the NFL playoff games until I doze off. Will be back later.


Take Care,
Wendy

Ellen
01-12-2003, 04:37 PM
Happy Sunday Afternoon!

I have stuffed Poblano peppers in the oven...trying to improve the recipe. I am taking a breather before dinner, then we will head to church. (our church has two seperate congregations...morning and evening. The evening is mostly young Generation Xers...which I enjoy relating to, so we go to the evening service. Its great to see the tattooed, pierced younger generation make church a priority) My daughter dropped by after church (at our old church), and brought a bunch of her friends over with her, on their way to some store. They sat around and chatted with me for an hour before heading out again. If I had known she was bringing them, I would have tried to clean up a bit. I have Christmas stuff all over the place! I tried to get rubbermaid bins to store all the decorations in, but Home Depot was out of lids! I need to go to another Home Depot, but in the mean time, there are lights, and ornaments, and stockings and all kinds of stuff, laying all over the place! I had to clean off the sofa so there would be a place to sit! Arrrgghhh!!! :eek:

Can't wait to see all the pictures from the Orlando get together!

FILLISE: The dresses sound lovely! Do post pictures! When are you coming to Atlanta? Make it soon! :)

TONI: It is an incredible farmers market, but unfortunately, it is kind of far away. I am going to plan on making the trip at least once a month tho! And on a week day morning! It was SO crowded, you could barely move in there!


BOB: You made it through Wal Mart with a list? Who are you and what did you do with BOB?

SERENE: Thanks for the update on Orlando '03! I am so sorry Tranquil was sick, and you two had to leave early. Hope she is better soon. This sure has lingered with her. Make sure she is taking LOTS of vitamin C, and chicken soup. I am looking forward to seeing your pix!

Solly
01-12-2003, 04:44 PM
Sunday afternoon,

Hi, finnaly got on here. Mys dsl was down yesterday. Now I have to run and fix dinner so DD & I can go get our haircut and he dryer just went off.

Going t post a few quick replies and then I will be back later to finish the posts. Now don't talk too much while I'm gone, I'm already so far behind.Monet, Add some shredded wheat and bran cereal, some rye krisp crakers, some worchester (sp) sauce and you hav great legal chex mix. Yeah for not having to cook. I look for every opportunity. Yuk $600 for car repairs. I hate that stuff.

To all the Orlando girls, sounds like you are having a ball. I'm so jealous. Wish I were there. By now the race is over and Deb i"m sure you did great. Sorry I missed you. Just ran to th grocery. I hope you all are going to share that cookbook.

Bob, you are too funny. Glad you posted, I was getting worried about you.

Toni, Hi, I'm behind too.


VR, Hi to you too.

Gator, Now that you ahve made me hungry with all that detail about the lunch. It sounds like a wonderful spread.

Sef, thanks for the soup recipe, I will try it.

Solshine, thanks for the report on the girls. Sounds like they are close to being kicked out of eerywhere they go.

Zanne, WTG on losing those 2 lbs. I hope they stay lost too.

Cpuntrymom, Hi, Hope you are having a good day.

Fillise, Yeah for those 2.5 pounds disappearing.

Later, Jackie

heartmom
01-12-2003, 05:07 PM
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/josephboogie

This is Boogie's web page- there are pics in his photo gallery.

QUILTER- Boogie is doing wonderful!! He's growing soo much and this surgery has really helped him. We HOPE he won't have any more surgeries-but with his type of heart defect, it's not certain.

adams
01-12-2003, 05:19 PM
Toni48:

From what I understand basmati rice generally isn't from around here, however, it is the best rice to eat on SB or any low GI diet. You can even eat white basmati rice supposedly (I wouldn't).

Texmati is known for making excellent rice. It is in our local grocery store.

http://www.foodtv.com/terms/tt-r2/0,4474,573,00.html

I imagine any long grain brown basmati rice should do the trick. I am not sure if it tastes as great as texmati or not since I am new to basmati rice.

http://www.foodtv.com/terms/tt-r2/0,4474,280,00.html

Strangely, the sugar free kitchen only caries normal texmati not the stuff we bought.

http://www.sugarfreekitchen.com/sugarfree-rice.html

I am not sure the real difference because the below URL leads you to believe that Texmati is just US grown basmati.

http://www.foodreference.com/html/artbasmatirice.html

The only other URL I found with minimal looking which seems to have the exact name as we bought it (Texmati, Basmati Brown Rice) is below

http://www.texmex.net/products/foods.htm


It seems a little confusing but looks like texmati is just US grown basmati rice. Sorry for all the URLs heheh. To top it off there is also a Kasmati basmati rice which is supposed to be an indian style basmati rice, I haven't really looked at it.

Anyway, there is an overkill of info on it :) aside from the WHY, which has to do with GI and amylose in long grain rices...I figure you are already up on all that though.

SolShine
01-12-2003, 06:11 PM
DEBELLI CROSSES THE FINISH LINE IN 2 HOURS 51 MINUTES LOOKING AS FRESH AND HAPPY AS CAN BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You'd never know the gal only got, like, 4 hours of sleep last night!!!!

It was rather chilly this morning at dark-o-thirty! But we all bundled up and headed to EPCOT for the starting line. It was MEISTER (my dh), MELF, YELLOWROSE and TRISHALOO. We had some party noise makers that DEBBIE brought and, boy did we make some noise! They actually came in handy a couple of times when we got separated. ;) We saw DEBBIE 4 times during her race - at the start, mile 4, mile 9 and the finish line. We all tried to get pictures, but who knows how they turned out.... We're sooo proud of her!! She was hoping to beat 3 hours and, by golly, she did with plenty of room to spare! She thought the weather was PERFECT - it was clear, crisp (not too humid) and a bit breezy. (Too cool for us spectators, but perfect for those hard working marathoners}

Yesterday we ate breakfast and lounged around a while before going to the expo to get DEBBIE's race pack. I had printed out everyone's post after ours so everyone could read them over breakfast - I think that was about the only time it was quiet all week-end! :lol:

While we were at the EXPO we got to see ZSUZSU and her baby boy who is absolutely adorable! We got to talk to QUILTER on the phone - and that was a great treat! :D Then we were off to Winter Park for the pontoon boat ride around the beautiful big houses. (AGAIN, BKM, was VERY WELL AWARE OF HER SURROUNDINGS......but I'm going to let her explain! :o We shopped on Park Ave and then headed to the Outback for dinner.

Picked up the gals at the hotel at 4:30am and we figured we walked quite a few miles today ourselves. Let me tell you - if you GOTTA have something done MELF is the one to ask - that lady gets her mind set on a mission and AIN'T NUTHIN' gonna st5p her! She was booking it at about 20 mph to get to the finish line so we didn't miss cheering for DEBBIE.

After the race we headed back to the hotel where everyone freshened up and packed up....off to ITALIANNI'S for lunch....
:( :?: CLOSED! No longer in service...... okay..... so we go to CAFE TU TU TANGO for lunch instead. This place serves only appetizers and they suggested 2 per person so we followed their suggestion - they brought complimentary hummus for us too. It was a feast and there was so much we couldn't eat it all. Some good stuff, some okay stuff..... and we were very hungry!

We said our good bye's in the parking lot and I felt like crying all the way home. It's like saying good bye to your favorite cousins knowing that it may be a while before you get to see them again.

MEISTER and I came home and took "the princess" out to "zoomie" so we could take a nap. :lol: I'm up and munching on left-overs from our Friday Feast as I TRY to keep this brief. I want to give everyone an opportunity to fill in the details. MELF, YELLOWROSE and TRISHALOO all fly out tomorrow morning so maybe you'll hear from them on Tuesday.

ADAMS - I ABSOLUTELY LOVE BASMATI RICE!!! It smells sooooooo divine while it's cooking and I don't think I could stand plain ole white rice after having basmati..... I'm totally spoiled with it.

Okay, gotta run.....I'm sure you'll be hearing from everyone else soon.

THE BIG ORANGE BABE
01-12-2003, 06:24 PM
OK...IF ITALIANI'S WAS CLOSED, I'M GLAD I DIDN'T GO!!! ;) For those of you who have never eaten at one, IT'S MOLICIOUS!!!! and they fix a mean DIRTY MARTINI!!!

Sounds like Deb is ready for the NY MARATHON!! CONGRATS GIRL!

I know the girls enjoyed the boat ride, but I can't wait to hear just exactly what's up with BKM????????

This description of the [i]nighty show should prove to be rich.
Knowing these gals, I'm sure it was something to see!

Well, I'm off to do dishes...I baked a ham today and it was really good! Of course I had fresh green beans :smug:

Hope everyone has a good evening...I'm watching the JFK JR movie.


BOB

The Quilter
01-12-2003, 07:59 PM
I just talked with what's left of the FL Gang. Sounds like the laughter is still going strong in the background. DEB sounded good. I told her we all were so proud of her for doing this. Let's all be sure and give her lots of praise for this major accomplishment. Think back to where she was years ago and now what she's able to do. She's incentive for all of us to use the power within us.

I also talked to TRISHALOO and YELLOWROSE and they both have the sweetest Texas accents. They are funny and adorable. TRISH said they are doing the half next year. Isn't that great? There will be a big crowd there.

Okay, that's it for me. See you on the flip side.
Kim

Nomoresugar
01-12-2003, 08:30 PM
Dh and I had a lovely Sunday here in sunny south Florida. We went to an art museum with our son and dil and then to an early dinner (yes, I was bad - but I have lost 2 of the 5 regained pounds and needed to have a big Cosmopolitan). And dil brought me lemon bars - which my other dil usually makes for the holidays and didn't - she knew I missed having them. So I did have 2 small ones and the rest will be frozen for another day!

Monet - Your farmer's market sounds unreal. The ones we have here are nice but yours tops them!

Meliris - Glad your ankle is starting to improve. Yes, dh and I will often go to a grocery store on a Saturday night - when we go out just the two of us.

Adams - I made up a large batch of brown Basmati rice and froze it in 1 cup packets. Then, when I want some, into the microwave!

Gatorgal - My oldest ( the one we spent the day with today) is a Gator! And watches or goes to every game he can. He wears Gator clothing down to the underpants on those days - and tho he and dil have no children - they dress their Dobermans in Gator stuff!!!

Fellise - The gown sounds perfect!

Serene - Can't wait to see the pictures.

Heartmom - I went to your site and what a handsome child you have! Let's all pray that he won't need to go through any more surgeries. My grandson had to have a serious heart surgery two years ago and is perfect now - thankfully his defect was caught in time.

Solshine and Quilter - Thanks for the updates. Wow! Debbie is something else!!!!!

:devil: :mad: :( :( :(

Nomoresugar
01-12-2003, 08:31 PM
LOL - please ignore the devil et al at the bottom of my post.....I goofed!

Solly
01-12-2003, 09:02 PM
I'm back.

Got dinner over with and then out to get my haircut. Deb alled while I was out. Twice I missed her today.

Can't wait to find out what's up with BKM. Now that she went to O'town, she had better get back on the board.

Deb We are so proud of you. You kicked butt today. We knew you could do it.

Just wanted to catch up before bedtime. DH is sitting in front of the fire w/o me so I must run.
Filise, take some hard boiled eggs or egg salad with you. Peanut butter. I went and stoced up on food today too. It feels good to have something in the house. Your dress sounds awesome. Please take some pics so we cn see it. Sounds like you had a great shopping trip. You did great eating at Carrabas. I haven't been there yet.

Serene, So sorry your and Tranquil had to cut the trip short. So hope she is feeling better today. Sounds like it was a wild weekend though.

Miata, Have fun a curves. You are doing great getting there all the time.

Quilter, thanks for the report on the Orlando girls. I hvae missed 2 phone calls from them.

Nomoresugar. Stay on track and those holiday pounds wil drop right off.

Toni, housecleanng is such a chore. We burn wood and it does make a mess. My house neer looks really clean from it.

Monet, peach tea sounds yummy. Very soothing.

Mel, don't feel too bad, you are not alone. Glad your ankle is getting better.

Gator, that was an exciting game. Glad you had a good time.

Bob, can't believe you made it through Walmart with only the things on your list. No movies??

Solshine. Thanks for the update. Sounds like a wild and fun time.

See everyone tomorrow.

Jackie