I'm having a pity party and you know that it's always better to suffer (whine) out loud and with lots of other miserable people. If you're not feeling miserable, maybe now is a good time to bail outa this thread.
I'm not normally a downer person but lately I've been so inundated with all the New Year's Resolution hype on weight loss that I'm about to lose it. *pardon the pun*
I seem to be alternating about 50-50 between self pity/loathing and a general pissedoffedness about the whole weight issue. As it happens, I'm in the pissedoffedness state at the moment and wish all size 6er's to rot in hell.
Going one step further with the 50-50 theory, I'm inclined to believe that: (a) when I'm thinking I'm the most pissed off and (b)when I'm feeling I'm filled with self pith/loathing.
Have any of you wonderful people been dealing more with this issue in the last week or is it just me?
peach pit
01-05-2003, 10:03 PM
Ms Pit signing in!
You know Nora without going into details, I am sooooooo frustrated with this weight loss thing I could just (and have) spit. I don't think I can do it but I don't quite know how NOT to do it. (diet that is, not spit)
But! I know you are a positive person...I could tell by the smile that you have that just lights up a room.
Wish I had answers for you Nora and I wish I could say something that would take the steam out of the "pissedoffedness" but all I can tell you is that....I am hangin in there right with you!
yours in pissedoffedness,
peach
goodforme
01-05-2003, 10:06 PM
YES, YES, YES!! Big hugs, Nora. I feel the exact same way!
Every time I turn on the radio, tv, or open a magazine, it's weight loss city. There's all these skinny women on TV screaming they lost 5 WHOLE pounds in 30 days with this pill or that lotion. UGH!
My child is even getting in on the act. Mommy, don't you want to be skinny? I want to be skinny! Let's get Slim-Fast, okay??
I feel like my whole life revolves around my weight, am I gaining, losing, maintaining? Am I eating enough, too much, oh no, I drank a soda!
This was my new year's resolution. I am not going to obsess like I have been. I want to be thin, but mostly, I want to be happy and healthy. And, surprisingly enough, when I am relaxed about it, it goes much easier. Hmmmm.
Nora, I felt like I was the only one going crazy!!
peach pit
01-05-2003, 10:17 PM
Sherrie,
I know what you mean about the "little kid thing"! My little guy keeps asking me if I am, "Jolly like Santa"! :rolleyes:
bah humbug
peach
Ruthxxx
01-05-2003, 10:30 PM
Joining you Chickies in pissedoffedness - and not just about the weight thing. I want my OWN life! Too many constraints these days - not money at the moment but responsibilities!
dyan_q
01-05-2003, 10:51 PM
Can I join in the pissedoffness? I'm still mopping up water from the washer. Repair guy didn't show, so I called him. He thought I wanted an appt for tommorrow. Hello? I'm standing in 2 inches of water and I specifically asked if you were open on Sundays, yes that means I want to wait 36 hours for you to get here. Stupid man.
Ms Spotdog
01-05-2003, 11:13 PM
I like that word pissedoffness!
I hear ya on the way the whole friggin' world jumps on the weightloss bandwagon for a few weeks every January 1st. I get so sick of hearing everyone else TALK, TALK, TALK about it! I just want to tell them "Just do your thing and shut up about it!"
Plus I am kinda pissed off at myself for not doing what I KNOW makes me feel best and IN CONTROL by dropping the empty carbs from my diet. I'm getting there, tho.
The other thing I am a bit upset about it that I told the truth to an internet friend (not anyone from here) about the fact that she is not doing her daughter any favors by shielding her from the fact that she has a weight problem and needs to develop healthy eating habbits NOW. She was going on and on about 'Well, she is just a teenage and she should be able to eat whatever she wants" etc. Needless to say, the friend isn't speaking to me now. (I was nice about it - just truthful. Actually, the mom is probably carb addicted too and doesn't want to fact it either. One of those "I'm OK, your OK." situations, I believe.)
Open mouth, insert foot - thats me!
Kel
Oops! Editing here cuz I walked away, thought about it and realized that what I said about everyone talk, talk, talking about weightloss could be taken wrong. I don't mean ANYONE here! Talking and encouraging is what we are all about! We are on a totally different level than those OTHER people. I'm talking about the person in the line at the store that has the 3 giant bags of grapefruit in her cart and goes on and on about her new 'diet' when you know she will forget the whole thing after a week. And you know that she has probably done this same drill for 5 years in a row. So please, I'm not referring to any of us here - old or new - practicing LC or not.
Pooky
01-05-2003, 11:48 PM
My pissedoffness comes when I see a Bally Total Fitness commercial and show women who have obviously been doing this since they where in utero--as if THAT'S going to inspire me to join a gym!
nikkic
01-06-2003, 12:05 AM
May I join in?
I'm pissed that I'm sick with a cold. I ate too much and too many of lots of bad things over the holidays. I thought I'd be able to really get down to business this week. Eat right, exercise, you know the drill. Now I'm sick. :headache: :hot: :tired: :snail: :sorry: :halfempty :(
I hate this. I hate that I can't do what I want and I hate that my body feels bad. (Whine).
And this new year new you crap is getting to me. All these bone thin women promoting exercise equipment and diets. They look anorexic. This is not the way real people look. Even if you diet and exercise and get to your ideal weight, no one looks like that if their over 12 years old. They aren't even size 6 their like 2 or less. Is this the size of most adult women, I think not.
I'm done now, the cat has come to comfort me and my pissedoffedness is beginning to subside. A cat purring on my lap always brings down my blood pressure and makes me smile.:)
noranoranora
01-06-2003, 06:07 AM
Ms. Peach, it's so good to know you.. you are one of the dearest, most supportive people I know. I can't wait until May when I get to hang out with you and Jiff again. *smooch*
Sherrie, I am so totally with you on this whole stinking obsession! And it is an obsession with me. I'm so friggin' sick of allowing my weight to take centre stage of my life. I honestly don't know how my poor husband puts up with me. I'm really glad he does, though. LOL!!
Roofie, I love ya gal. I can't imagine the pressure you must be under with all the responsiblilites you have. Yep, a night or two away in May will be something that you can look forward to. I sure am looking forward to it, too.
Dyan, aren't these repair people unreal? It's almost like they're debating with themselves whether or not they really need the money before they deign to come to your house. Picture the guy (or gal) in his/her blue coveralls.. still with me? Now, picture a giant boot coming down out of the sky and givin' him/her a lifter, right in the seat of the pants. You can give as many lifters as you think necessary, it's a nice freeing visualization. LOL!!!
Kel, I'm with you. The only difference is that my problem is not with other people's actions or lack thereof, it's mine. Obsessing about a problem doesn't aid in conquering the problem. I really gotta get my plan together.
Pooky, how about the women with 6 pack abs who you see working out on these frail pieces of exercise equipment that can be yours for 4 small payments of $49.99? As if!!!! Do they think we all just fell off the turnip truck?
Nikkic, I do hope you're feeling better today. I can imagine how frustrating it is for yoy. Finally feeling like you need to set some fitness goals and then too sick to really get going on them... Just take good care of yourself until you're well, okay?
nikkic
01-06-2003, 10:10 AM
Thank you Nora,
I've been doing different woe's since August and I've lost 44 lbs. so far. I just took a break of sorts over the holidays and really was going to get back on track. My newest goal is to unclutter and reorganize my life. Easier said than done.
Well, I am feeling better today, so OP from here on out. Look out Gazelle, here I come.
L144S
01-06-2003, 01:50 PM
Well here are my 2 cents worth...
I think it is fine to be pissed off, as long as you use it to your advantage. Stop looking at your short comings and see what you CAN do to change. I will never be taller than 5' 3", not will I ever be anything other than big boned. What I can do is move everyday and be a productive participant in my life.
The gym adds are frustrating, but if anyone has been to a gym lately, people don't look hat way. It is like the toy adds for kids, they want it, but when they see it, it is nothing like the adds.
I personally have given up weighing myself. it sets me into a tail spin and I can't recover from the obsessive ways. I will go to the gym and I will do my best to eat healthy.
I kind of wish we could all do what we want to do or need to do to be healthy and screw what the scale says it is just a number.
So I guess I am on board with Kel. Let’s be here to support and conquer together and take that negative energy and use it for good rather than evil.
Ok off my soap box
-L
liz321
01-06-2003, 03:24 PM
Hubby has taken to calling me Oprah....one month I am up and the next I am down...though I haven't been thin or run a marathon yet!
Liz321
GinaMarie
01-06-2003, 05:21 PM
I am soooooo glad that I came here because I am soooooo pissed off today!
I lost 5 pounds on my start of induction Wednesday, over the seekend I GAINED TWO BACK!!!!!!! I did NOTHING different!
No fair! I am miserable without my carbs, STARVING ALL THE TIME! I am sick of it and it hasn't even been a week!
I cryed for a good part of the morning today. Now I have a headache!
I agree that I am also just sick of the whole weight issue! I feel like I am being made to conform with someone elses standards. I'm Fat, GET OVER IT!!!!!!!
Oh, I am so mad!
Gina
nasus40
01-06-2003, 10:17 PM
Gina Honey are you drinking enough water??? I last year posted a wonderful post from another site regarding the fact that at about week 3-4 the body tries to hold the water thinking that it is in a drought as the body is riding itself from the water. it then holds on to it for a while. I will see if i can find it. i know i do not have it in my files as that had gotten allwiped out tis summer. so let me search for a bit and get it out to the forum. but please drink drink drink.
and why are tyou hungry??? you should eat if hungry and that may also be part of the problem if youa re hungry then you must not be eating enough. that would drop your caloric intake to below basal rate and then get your body to the "starvation mode" which will cause you to conserve your calories and start to gain too.
ageoldie
01-06-2003, 10:48 PM
I'm pissed off because I'm so weak. I was sooooo good since the first and today I totally freaked out. I loaded up all the leftover candies that were sitting on the dinningroom table and took them to work. Well seeing everyone else eating them, so I broke down and Lost every bit of control I every thought I had. I hate it when I lose control!!!
MamaJ
01-06-2003, 11:08 PM
Gee, where was this thread last week? I've been trying so hard not to be pissed off but on focusing on positives. LOL
I agree Gina ~ why are you hungry? I guess I should go back and read past posts and see what you've been eating cause there just shouldn't be a reason why you're hungry!!! I believe you're doing Atkins, right? Sorry to be somewhat ignorate of the plan but could you do 2-3 hour mini meals to help? How's your protein at each meal?
The whole "hyped up skinny weight "loss" scheme" ticks me off. I want to see a 50 year old woman on those commercials that has been diligent for the past few months and her stats!!!!!! I want to see "REAL" people sharing true experiences!!! Not actresses !! I live in Houston where we've been named (by some men fitness magazine) the fattest city in the US for three years!!!!!!! I WANT TO SEE THE HEAD (S) OF THAT MAGAZINE !!!
I want men to have to experience hormonal changes, menopause AND stretch marks before thinking that their mates have "let themselves go !!!"
Good thread! Now I'll go back to trying to focus on the blessings in my life! But I just feeeeeeel sooooooooo much better! Awwwww.
Life is good. I am Blessed. Things will work out. :devil:
nikkic
01-07-2003, 12:49 PM
Gina, I posted a reply to you last night, then I deleted it accidentally and was too tired to redo it then.
Your doing Atkins and trying to reduce your calories to 2000 a day I think? Or maybe it's less, my memory is not what it use to be. Anyway, you shouldn't be hungry. Atkins says that meat is a free food, eat, eat. In fact, the more you eat, the more you'll lose.
When I first started to do Atkins, I decided I'd just stay on induction, forever. That doesn't really work. It will for awhile, but it is important to increase your carbs. To begin with, if you eat TOO many carbs, your serotinin levels will drop. Serotinin is a hormone that your body produces when you eat. If your body is not producing serotinin, it will cry out for carbs. You feel depressed and what your body is really saying is, give me some carbs so I can make serotonin and feel good again. This makes you want to eat more carbs to get that feeling of well being. You eat carbs, your blood sugar goes up, your serotinin level goes up, but it won't stay there and soon, your feeling like your starving. So you eat more carbs, and you never feel satisfied.
Ok, you go on Atkins, you finally get your craving for sugar out of your system (it takes a week or maybe longer) and your losing weight. Then, this is what happened to me, if you don't follow the plan and increase your carb intake, your serotinin level will drop, just like if you were eating too many carbs. Then your weight loss will stall. This takes awhile, but it happens. So what do you do? You need to read your book, and follow the plan. I've learned this from trial and error. If you follow the plan as outlined, you will lose weight and you won't feel hungry. Your serotinin level will remain on a constant level and you will feel so much better. As women, we have so many hormone issues anyway, at least this is one that we have some measure of control over, by eating right. (I'm getting my info from Dr. Schwarzbeins books, Suzanne Somers and a couple of other sources, if you would like to learn more.)
The other thing I have found is this. The more diet plans you try, the smarter your body gets. It will learn your diet tricks and try to hold onto your fat. It's working on a cellular level, of course, but they are all working together to store as much energy as possible. So, if you've tried to go low carb before, it will take awhile for this to kick into gear.
Also, I agree with Janice, eat every three hours. It will keep you satisfied.
Now, go eat.
Ms Spotdog
01-07-2003, 01:25 PM
This is exactly why it is called 'CARB ADDICTION'. It isn't that we are weak and have no will power - it's actually an honest to God chemical reaction in our bodies!
Sometimes I think we need to keep reminding ourselves of this fact.
Kel
tazcat
01-07-2003, 01:53 PM
I love this thread-
First I want to say "Nikkic"- I to, am very happy and smile a lot, when my pussy is happy. HAHA
Chicks, my mom who is now 365lbs. [from 525 lbs] always said "why don't they put real people adverstising exercising". Oh well.
Love you all,
Tazcat
nikkic
01-07-2003, 05:01 PM
Tazcat, you are so funny. I just love the way you see the world.
And a big congratulations to your mom for her weight loss. That is a real accomplishment and takes a lot of determination.
Today, my cat is very pissed at me. I ran the vacuum and he hates that. He's sat in the garage all day and refuses to come in the house. My pussy is not happy today.:lol:
LindaBC
01-07-2003, 09:32 PM
ROTFLMAO...you guys just slay me. I sure wish my pussy was happy. Ooops...I just remembered...I dont have a cat. I still wish it was happy though. :lol:
I thought I had posted to this thread before but on checking, I see that I didn't....or maybe it got deleted by the dreaded "thread police".
When it comes to pissedoffedness, I think I'm the winner. I'm pissed off that it's so hard for me to lose weight no matter how closely I stick to plan. I'm pissed off that I let myself go absolutely bonkers for not just the holiday season but for three whole months. What did I think was going to happen? Did I think I was somehow cured and that I'd LOSE weight instead of gaining it? I'm pissed off that I gained 18 lb just by being careless and gluttonous.
I'm pissed off at my husband who thinks that he just has to buy me a pretty pressie at Xmas and that will make up for an entire year of neglect. He has many wonderful qualities but he's definitely not Mr. Sensitivity and he finds it very easy to put me on the back shelf. I can't remember the last time we went out for an evening by ourselves. I can't remember the last time we did a lot of things...if you get my drift. Oh yeah, it was last Valentines day. Whoop-de-do. So, what am I, chopped liver? I can't remember the last time he reached out to give me a loving, or even a friendly touch. He's just never been demonstrative and try as I might, I just can't reconcile myself to it. We've been married for 38 years and I'm so taken for granted it's pathetic.
Well, is that enough self pity for you? Do I win the miserable, misunderstood and neglected trophy?
Then, there's the other side of the coin where I count my blessings that he comes home every night, eats whatever I put in front of him without complaint, pays me a salary whether I deserve it or not, and has never ever been physically abusive. There are a lot of women who don't have it as easy as I do and I'm well aware of that fact. He also has had to put up with me for all those years which is a real plus in his favor. :lol: So, Chicks, I guess we just have to learn to take the good with the bad and make the best of things. I know that I for one am not at the stage in my life where I want to be alone or trying the dating scene. YOIKS, just the thought of it has my tail feathers all aquiver!:eek: Better the devil I know than the ones I don't.
nikkic
01-07-2003, 10:18 PM
You mean, you got a real present for Christmas? Wow. I got to order mine and then told DH what it was. AND, I told him it was his present too! :D
kitten63
01-08-2003, 03:24 AM
I know I should'nt say this but I am feeling happy ...Happy because I have at last found a site...& Post where I can vent out lol so here goes...I turn 40 this year and I don't want to be overweight ....To be honest i am really scared ....Everyday I wake up with great intentions of sticking to a diet..but by the end of the day I am picking at the wrong foods..I pray that I will get help from this site....To tell you the truth this site is the only one i have ever replied to posts or even typed out my feelings...So i hope I have not bored anyone to tears...
I am scared to fail again...
GinaMarie
01-08-2003, 11:21 AM
You Chicks are the best! Thank you all for your words of encouragement for me and for every other pissedoff chick here!
I am personally doing better today. I ended my first week of Induction with a 4 pound loss. DH lost 9 and I am insanely jelous, but he is a man, I am not. I find it very frustrating that we have to deal with all the hormone bull on top of all the other stuff that are bodies are doing to keep the "status quo". Why do I have to fight with my body? It is so wrong. If we all lived in cave dwelling days, our abilities to store fat would make us the survivors, not the fatties!
I think I was/am hungry because I am experiancing carb withdrawls. After all it has only been a week. Most of my diet is fat, followed by protein, and then the small amount of carbs allowed on induction. Yesterday, I was not screaming hungry. So, I am hoping that something finally clicked.
I think that it is a good idea to also remember our blessings as well as the things that make us pissed. I try to think of one thing a day to be thankful for. Today it is this board and all you lo-carb Chicks!
Thank you all!
G
nikkic
01-08-2003, 12:01 PM
Kitten,
Welcome, You are not alone. We all have feelings of being afraid of failure. As they say, a journey of a million miles begins with one step. You can do it, I know you can.
First, do you have a specific plan you are using? If not, then start to read about different woe. There are many people here that will gladly help you. I'm assuming your low carbing, since your here. If you can, throw away all the stuff in your house that is not low carb. I did, it was liberating. I threw out an almost full sack of sugar, I gave tons of food to my daughters and the rest unopened packages to some shelters. Stock up on stuff you can eat, make things ahead of time that you feel are tempting, like deviled eggs, cook up some bacon and keep it in a plastic bag in the fridge and nuke it when you want a piece for a salad or just a snack, make sure you are eating raw/cooked veggies too-the ones you like plus some you may have never tried. I never tried zucchini noodles before and when I did, I discovered they were a very good replacement for regular noodles with a sauce. (In case you don't know what they are-you take a zucchini, cut it in long thin pieces and stirfry in a little olive oil til tender. Just use them in place of noodles.) Try to eat food that you think is regular food, don't go too fancy, just cause they say you can have sauces and stuff. Keep it simple to start with and it will seem easier. Like hamburgers with cheese, and sugar free toppings but no bun. If you want, call it a steak burger like the restaurants do. :) Also, there are several threads here that we post on and you are welcome to join any of them. Most of these ladies post on the daily thread and there is also the low carb freestyle where I post and a few others too.
GinaMarie, I'm glad your still hanging in there. Good for you. You will start to notice that not only are you not as hungry anymore, you will start to feel fantastic, with increased energy and a feeling of being well. I was jealous of my DH too when we started. Now he is jealous of me and says he won't let me out of the house alone.:lol:
Leenie
01-08-2003, 12:16 PM
To Ms. PO'd
From Ms. PO'd, Up and Down Queen
Nora I'm like that constantly, but your probably feeling the after the holidays blues, woe's. We all get them and I think its cause we all have to come back to reality now that the fun is over. Its so hard to keep that positive attitude.
All during Christmas, with every cookie I shoved in my face, I said I was going to start dieting on J/1, oh its gonna be great this time, I can do it...... Well when I shoveled the lasted cookie in my mouth I realized....... OOOPS REALITY, its not going to be easy. Make sense ? I know I'm :dizzy:
Anyway, we're with you sis, your definitly not alone. I'm just trying to not think about food and deal w/it one meal at a time when it comes.
Hugs and Kisses, Leenie :chef:
(how's little Heather ?)
GinaMarie
01-08-2003, 12:21 PM
Nikkic! I hope that happens to me too! When my DH and I started going out, I had just gotten real thin doing Jenny Craig. Brian has tons of friends, and when he brought me to their local hangout to meet them for the first time they were floored. They told him I was lovely and even flirted with me a bit. Now I am 307 pounds and all their wives are beautiful. I think my DH deserves to have a wife he can be proud of. I am amazed by how supportive he is of me. He tells me that he liked me even before I lost my Jenny Weight. So we are both fat now, and doing Atkins together. We hope that next new year we can have killer party to celebrate our success!
G
nikkic
01-08-2003, 12:39 PM
GinaMarie,
That is my story too. When DH and I started to see each other, I was a size 8/10, 35 and, may I say, a fabulous blonde. Then, several things began to happen, you know bad things happen to good people, but why so many and for so long? I ate and ate and drank and drank (booze). I blossomed to 274 lbs. And still, DH loved me just because, he loved me. He is the first man I've ever known that really did. Lots of men have said they loved me, but I think, they only loved the outside of me. He is the one that will love me no matter how large, how old, or how scarred up by life I am.
So now, I'm at 227 lbs. My goal is to get to 150 lbs sometime this year. I started out doing this because I wanted to be healthy and because of some health problems. I'm now in the middle and feel like I want more than just that. I want to also, love myself.
tazcat
01-08-2003, 12:45 PM
Kitten63-40 is just a number. Love yourself first.
You can do it for you. See it in your mind, say it out loud, believe it. Give yourself time.
G- I hate it[don't like it] when people want to loose weight for other people. You must do this for you, if other people don't like the way you look too bad for them. I always say "what if they were blind?" Would they like you? If you are happy and healthy stay the way you are. But we all know that being overweight is not healthy. This is what keeps me on a diet.
I still have the flu so with all the pooping I have done for the last three days I might be at gole weight. HaHa
tazcat
GinaMarie
01-08-2003, 02:17 PM
Nikkic & Tazcat - I am certainly not doing this for my husband. We are doing it together for ourselves. We are both very overweight and love each other regardless. We want to start a family soon and doing it at 300+ does not sound like a good idea to me. In fact, I couln't agree with you more! When I lost all my Jenny weight and my husband asked me out I actually considered not dating him because he was heavy! I thought, what, I lost all this weight just to date a fat guy!?! But then I said to myself that when I was heavy all I wanted was for people to see me for me, who I am, not what I look like, so I gave him a chance and it was the best decision that I ever made!
I also went through those bad things in life that make you gain. A death in my family. A serious car accident that left me injured. But all in all I would say that DH and I love to eat and that is what brought us to where we are today. That is why a LC diet is great! We went to a steak house last night and had Fillet with Lobster Tails and sauteed mushrooms. We cleaned our plates with NO GUILT! :smug:
G