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Gale02
05-26-2011, 09:14 AM
I am pretty frustrated lately, ladies. I need your help and/or opinions on what I'm doing that's NOT working.

For the past month I have been counting calories (weighing, measuring and logging) and hitting the gym 5x/week. I have averaged 1,820 calories in (which is under my BMR) and exercised for 1,795 minutes so far this month. I generally do 35-60 minutes of some form of cardio (elliptical, stair stepper, racquetball) every day and around 30 minutes of strength training every other day. I also play (non-competitive but still a workout) volleyball 2 times/week.

I have not lost even one. freaking. pound. this month. Not a single one. I know that a month isn't a long term experiment, and I'm not going to give up, but I am really discouraged. At my weight and activity level (in addition to the gym, I'm also SAHM to a 2 year old and a 9 month old) I should be losing weight.

Thoughts?

ETA: For the past couple of days I've kept my calories to 1500-1600 in hopes that it would help and I am going to bed really, really hungry. I can maybe do it on the days I don't work out but 1500 in particular leaves me starving at the end of the day.


Sandi
05-26-2011, 09:21 AM
If you are going to bed hungry, you aren't going to stick to it. Put your calories back where you had them.

You've lost 35 lbs, so you know how to do this and what works. There may be other factors involved. How much sleep are you getting? How much water are you drinking? Is anything different (outside of food & exercise) this month?

Lovely
05-26-2011, 09:23 AM
:hug:

To start a little "Awesome job on the exercise and keeping track of your food!" and a "Keep at it!"

The first thing that came to mind was "What are you eating with those calories?"

Are you eating the same thing every day? Enough protein/carb/fat ratio for your body? And if you are eating the same thing every day, have you thought of mixing up the kinds of foods you're eating for a week and stepping out of the comfort zone so that your body has to get used to different types of foods? Our bodies are efficiency machines that can get very familiar to the same routines, so switching even a few things up can force our bodies to have to work harder.

Just a beginning thought.


sniperhil
05-26-2011, 09:27 AM
Gale02

With all the exercise you're logging, you may need to add in a couple hundred cals a day. Yes, I said add them. At your weight, with all your activity, you will still lose weight if you're eating 2000 cals a day and working out. Your body may just be holding on to everything you're eating bc you're not feeding it enough.

With your strength training, you may want to go to circuits, if you're not already doing them.

Gale02
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
Sandi - I have lost 35 lbs and I'm pleased with that. BUT, and I should have mentioned this in my OP, I haven't lost anything since January. I wasn't being terribly faithful with my counting and exercise up until the last month, though.

Sleep may be a factor. I have kids that get up at 5:30 and a body that doesn't like to go to sleep before 11 or 11:30. I also have one kid that wakes up at 3am or so to eat (he goes to bed at 6 and is just a little dude - 9 hours is his max.) :( But, it's been like that for months, believe it or not this is an improvement. Does the body eventually adapt to lack of sleep? Stress has also most definitely been a factor. DH is changing jobs next week and all that goes along with it has been a little stressful. There're other things, too. I try hard not to worry, but sometimes it gets the better of me. :dunno:

Lovely - My carb/fat/protein ratio sticks around 45/30/25%. Do you mean by switching it up that I go low carb for a while or something like that? I eat pretty healthily. Lots of whole foods, not much junk. I'm sure I could stand to add in more fruits and veggies, especially for snacks, and eliminate the granola bars. :o

Thanks ladies! :)

Gale02
05-26-2011, 09:36 AM
Gale02

With all the exercise you're logging, you may need to add in a couple hundred cals a day. Yes, I said add them. At your weight, with all your activity, you will still lose weight if you're eating 2000 cals a day and working out. Your body may just be holding on to everything you're eating bc you're not feeding it enough.

With your strength training, you may want to go to circuits, if you're not already doing them.

I thought about adding calories, but man oh man is that easier said than done! It makes me really nervous. :dizzy: 1800 seems like a lot of calories as it is.

I am doing circuits on weights (sorry, should have said that in the OP.) I'm not confident enough in my form to use free weights and so use the machines on a circuit.

bethbeth
05-26-2011, 09:42 AM
I was thinking adding calories too.

Lovely
05-26-2011, 09:45 AM
Lovely - My carb/fat/protein ratio sticks around 45/30/25%. Do you mean by switching it up that I go low carb for a while or something like that? I eat pretty healthily. Lots of whole foods, not much junk. I'm sure I could stand to add in more fruits and veggies, especially for snacks, and eliminate the granola bars. :o

I didn't specifically mean low carb or something (though that's always an option for a week to see how your body deals or if it's a plan you can work with), rather I meant in general trying different food. A different kind of protein. If you're used to chicken, try pork or steak. If you're used to pasta, use rice. If your usual vegetable of choice is broccoli try buying some asparagus. Mixing up the actual types of foods.

I should also point out that adding in a hundred calories for a week or two is likely a good experiment separately.

I know it seems scary to add in a few hundred calories a week for two weeks, but you should try it to rule it out if nothing else. And hey, you might end up finding that you can still lose with more calories. It could be the "mix up" you need to get your body to drop the weight.

As mentioned, I would not go lower at the moment if you find you're ravenous.

sniperhil
05-26-2011, 09:48 AM
Gale02

I understand, adding cals is hard. I had a problem with eating too few (1200), and it ruined my metabolism for 3 wks! I lost 5lbs initially and then gained 1lb! I was heartbroken! The scale didn't move until this wk, when I lost 2lbs. But I just had to fix my metabolism by adding more calories into my diet and continuing with my exercise. It's hard trying to figure what works for yourself and can be mind boggling!

If you don't like free weights and want something fun to try, you should go for a kettle bell workout. You feel like you're playing when you're actually exercising! And you burn mad cals!

Gale02
05-26-2011, 09:57 AM
I didn't specifically mean low carb or something (though that's always an option for a week to see how your body deals or if it's a plan you can work with), rather I meant in general trying different food. A different kind of protein. If you're used to chicken, try pork or steak. If you're used to pasta, use rice. If your usual vegetable of choice is broccoli try buying some asparagus. Mixing up the actual types of foods.

I should also point out that adding in a hundred calories for a week or two is likely a good experiment separately.

I know it seems scary to add in a few hundred calories a week for two weeks, but you should try it to rule it out if nothing else. And hey, you might end up finding that you can still lose with more calories. It could be the "mix up" you need to get your body to drop the weight.

As mentioned, I would not go lower at the moment if you find you're ravenous.

I do eat a whole lot of chicken (which I love!) We eat some beef, too (1-2x/week). My DH hates pork with a passion (he raised pigs as a kid, ick) so I don't generally make it cause I'm not a big enough fan to eat that much by myself. And, I have a soy intolerance so haven't tried tofu. I do like beans a whole lot, and have been cooking with them more.

I could definitely shake up the types of other foods I eat. I've stopped eating much bread since it tends to be a trigger food for me, but could try rice or quinoa or couscous, etc. More variety with my fruit/veggies could never hurt! :)

If you don't like free weights and want something fun to try, you should go for a kettle bell workout. You feel like you're playing when you're actually exercising! And you burn mad cals!


My gym offers a kettlebell class, but I've questioned my strength/ability to do it. It's a $40 class so I wanted to make sure I was able before I shelled out the money for it. How exactly does it work? I've seen the weights, but never seen them used.

SuomiSara
05-26-2011, 09:59 AM
How about just trying to eat healthy and forget the calorie counting for a few days?

Earlier in the year I was counting and weighing everything that went in my mouth and everything stopped. I gave up and just started eating well and smaller portions and its working for me.

As for your little one, have you tried giving a dreamfeed?

Gale02
05-26-2011, 10:08 AM
How about just trying to eat healthy and forget the calorie counting for a few days?

Earlier in the year I was counting and weighing everything that went in my mouth and everything stopped. I gave up and just started eating well and smaller portions and its working for me.

As for your little one, have you tried giving a dreamfeed?

I am very afraid to not count. In the past when I've tried it I went gung-ho and gained weight. I think my intuitive eating button is busted... it doesn't seem to work right. ;)

I've tried a dreamfeed but that kid will. not. eat. when he's not hungry. I decided it's not a bad thing and so let him eat when he's hungry. I don't want to foster eating on a clock. We're still getting a 9 hour stretch out of him, so I can't really complain. :)

Mayuri
05-26-2011, 10:34 AM
Hi Gale.

You drive yourself real hard! First of all, congratulate yourself for all that you're doing for yourself to help you get back that slim sexy body. And then just relax for a moment - because I can guarantee you that the results will show up.

Keep eating less calories than you're burning - the result has to be that you're getting closer to that slim sexy figure even if you're not already there yet.

Listen, weight is affected by so many things. You already know this I'm sure! Gaining muscle as you're becoming more toned and fitter - this impacts it, because muscle weighs more than fat.

Relax, keep working your plan, tweaking it in only the places that you notice something really doesn't feel right. Like you feeling hungry or starving at points. There something could do with a tweak. I think someone pointed out above that if you're mind/body thinks it's going to be starved, it's going to hold on to the fat! I know, it's ironic, but it's also a good indicator for us to do what is healthy and sustainable in the long run.

So ask yourself this, what can you give yourself to satisfy those hunger pangs, and still keep your calories within budget?

90% of successful weight loss is psychology, so allow yourself to relax and enjoy tweaking the journey where it needs to be tweaked, as you keep moving towards becoming slim and sexy again.....

myhaloisintheshop
05-26-2011, 10:37 AM
Just this month I was stuck and I cut calories--it didn't work. I excercised more. Nothing. THEN i upped my calories--I lost over 3 lbs this week!

Mayuri
05-26-2011, 10:39 AM
PS Sleep! Did you know that your body is 30% less efficient at burning calories when it hasn't had enough sleep?

Someone else mentioned sleep above too I think.

So ask yourself, how can I give my body the rest it really wants and needs (so I can move even more easily towards being slim and light in my ideal way again)....?

gmailjunkie
05-26-2011, 10:41 AM
Have you considered trying to learn meditation or some other non excersize relaxation technique ? I could never sleep well either (turned out I had sleep apnea so no wonder!) But I felt much better when I meditated even though I was getting poor quality sleep. Alone I think the meditation is helpful but in your case it might also help you wind down to sleep sooner.

It really looks like you are doing everything you can in spite of everything you have going on. You should be very proud. I'm having a hard time just taking care of me you are responsible for the happiness of three other people and it looks like you are doing really really well!

*hugs*

Arctic Mama
05-26-2011, 12:07 PM
Yes, I would wonder if you are just not eating enough for your activity level. I am eating around 1800 a day with moderate activity and nursing, and if I don't cheat I can expect to lose a minimum of 1.5-2 pounds per week, often more than that, and I weigh less than you. Sleep (or lack thereof) negatively impacts my stress levels and subsequently, my hunger, so do try to get more if you can. I will caveat that it is only if I get less than six hours a night that I see weight retention and cravings increase, but your mileage may vary.

If you are counting your calories rigorously and working out as you say, I would expect to see major losses. So it might be time to do a refeed and change things up a bit.

I'm rooting for you!

jennylou
05-26-2011, 12:19 PM
I am primal-ish. I say ish, because I've also had to do a total elimination diet do to my 3.5 month old extreme food intolerances. I don't eat beans very often, maybe once per month, but I eat more potatoes than most doing primal (because they're pretty quick, whereas, normally, I'd reach for an egg for a quick meal which is a staple of the primal diet that DD reacts to). Still, I've lost about 60 pounds since birth. The first 20 came off pretty quickly, doing nothing. The last 40 have been all about eliminating, with the biggest being grains and beans. I eat whatever I want of veggies (minus peas), fruit (minus berries and citrus) and beef or chicken. No artificial colors or flavorings. No diet soda (just water, tea, coffee or juice). I'm rarely hungry and feel great.

Gale02
05-26-2011, 04:58 PM
Thanks so much for the suggestions and support, everyone!

I will give some thought to upping my calories and changing things up a bit (especially trying to get some more sleep.) You ladies are wonderful, I'm grateful for each and every one of you!

Goddess Jessica
05-26-2011, 06:56 PM
You didn't mention that you're breastfeeding but I just wanted to make sure because you have a 9 month old. I know some women experience weight sticking around when they breastfeed and have reduced calories.

Also, have you taken measurements? With all your work at the gym, you could be going through a muscle conversion and losing inches instead of pounds.

This is really frustrating but hang in there!

Gale02
05-26-2011, 09:06 PM
You didn't mention that you're breastfeeding but I just wanted to make sure because you have a 9 month old. I know some women experience weight sticking around when they breastfeed and have reduced calories.

Also, have you taken measurements? With all your work at the gym, you could be going through a muscle conversion and losing inches instead of pounds.

This is really frustrating but hang in there!

I got an infection and my milk dried up when Eli was 7 months old, so not breastfeeding anymore. :(

I haven't been taking measurements, but I notice that my clothes are fitting better and I had to buy workout pants in a size smaller. There's improvement for sure, I just want it to register on the scale too. :^:

Hello Nurse
05-26-2011, 09:45 PM
I just want to say, Gale02, you are my hero! Sticking with your plan while taking care of babies, stress, lack of sleep, a vigorous gym routine, AND staying motivated not to throw in the towel with a month long plateau! You are an inspiration! I will think about this thread next time I want to throw in the towel and tell myself if you can keep going, I can too :)

1oftheLuvs
05-26-2011, 11:33 PM
Also, have you taken measurements? With all your work at the gym, you could be going through a muscle conversion and losing inches instead of pounds.

This is really frustrating but hang in there!


This was actually my first thought while reading your post.

I agree... it's nice to see the scale move down; but honestly, I'd keep every single one of these pounds of mine if they'd only reside in a firm, fit, size 8... ;)

With all the exercise you are getting, you could be retaining some water; make sure you are taking in enough fluids. Hang in there... I predict a nice woosh coming up on the scale.

GirlyGirlSebas
05-26-2011, 11:49 PM
I think you should switch it up a bit. I've heard that our metabolism can change quite a bit after having a baby because of hormone shifts. Maybe you have become like many of us and are a bit more sensitive to starches and sugars. Try limiting them for a week or so and see what happens. If I eat more than 2 starches a day and 2 fruits, my weight loss stalls. For some of us, not all calories are created equally.

Gale02
05-27-2011, 02:52 PM
I think you ladies are like a good luck charm or something, lol! ;) I weighed in at 237.4 today... at 2.6lb whoosh from Wednesday and a new low. Woohoo!

OhMyDogs
05-27-2011, 03:34 PM
I hear people who have plateaued SWEAR by calorie cycling...have you thought about trying that and seeing if it helps?

1oftheLuvs
05-27-2011, 04:26 PM
I think you ladies are like a good luck charm or something, lol! I weighed in at 237.4 today... at 2.6lb whoosh from Wednesday and a new low. Woohoo!




Congrats! :carrot: Patience and perseverance pays off. :)

sniperhil
06-02-2011, 08:04 AM
Gale
Sorry, haven't been able to find this thread. I would not shell out $40 a class for the kettlebell workout. You can go to womensfitnesss.com or self.com or shape.com and look up a kettlebell routine. I don't even have a kettlebell, I use a 10 dumbell and hold it by it's head ( the magazine said it would have close to the same swinging action).