General chatter - What do you think of the mom who gave botox shots to her 8 yr old?




cbmare
05-13-2011, 06:28 PM
I can't imagine a need for an 8 yr old to need botox shots. Then to hear her say that it makes her pretty and beautiful is so sad.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/mom-year-daughter-botox-young-young/story?id=13580804


InControl2Day
05-13-2011, 06:54 PM
I saw her interview on GMA yesterday and was FLOORED. She is unapologetic and says other moms do it.

It's so sad knowing this little girl is starting to feel THIS insecure this early in life. Botox at 8? What's next?

DixC Chix
05-13-2011, 06:56 PM
My first reaction is - *shakes head* only in California :rolleyes:

Second - its wrong on so many levels.

Third - mom is an aesthetician not a physician, can they do that???

Fourth - which three areas of the child's face were injected? Is it to keep her looking wide-eyed?

Fifth - Lord, keep that little girl safe.


iHeartU
05-13-2011, 07:07 PM
THAT is child abuse. Social Services needs to step in and take that kid away from her. I don't care what your reason is. That stuff is dangerous and it isn't to be used by growing children. That little girl is going to be psychologically messed up when she gets to be in her teens. ::shakes head:: God, I hate pageant moms.

JEN3
05-13-2011, 07:07 PM
I think she should lose her license to be a mom.

Lovely
05-13-2011, 07:17 PM
...there are no words.

Okay. There are plenty of words, but they'd mostly be...:censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

MonicaM
05-13-2011, 07:26 PM
I cannot seem to wrap my brain around this. It is one of those things you hear that are so shockingly disgusting that it is beyond thoughts.

murphmitch
05-13-2011, 07:40 PM
News tonight says California Social Services is investigating the mom & she may lose custody of her.

ryeb
05-13-2011, 07:49 PM
Do parents realize how that not only harms their child physical but also their psyche? REALLY? This is not psychologically healthy AT ALL! This little girl is being brain washed at such a young age. If it keeps up she will most likely turn to eating disorders, bodily image disorders, and NEVER be able to see herself as being beautiful. You know those people that are addicted to plastic surgery, yeah well I bet you this is one in the making.

fatferretfanatic
05-13-2011, 08:23 PM
I don't understand! All children are already beautiful just as they are. :( I can't believe a mom would put the idea into her daughter's head that you need treatments like botox to correct flaws that don't even exist! I feel sad for the girly!

eclipse
05-13-2011, 08:23 PM
Not "only in California." I read a story a few months back about a mom doing this in the UK - botox AND ful Brazilian waxes to prevent her from growing pubic hair.

milmin2043
05-13-2011, 09:09 PM
This mom also has her daughter "waxed".

Her daughter should be removed from her custody asap. This woman is just not right. There is absolutely no defense.

bargoo
05-13-2011, 09:35 PM
I wonder how long it will be before she has her daughter get a boob job.

cbmare
05-13-2011, 10:43 PM
OK. So I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who feels this way. I did watch a few episodes of Toddlers N Tiaras. I cannot believe that 3 yr olds were having their eyebrows waxed. Brazilan waxes? Seriously?

Geez! What did I do when my girls were 3? I cut their bangs. I cut their hair. I trimmed their nails. They needed those things. I even went to an extreme and polished their nails with clear polish sometimes when I was doing mine.

What is this telling these little girls?

Do they have little boy contests?

CrystalZ10
05-14-2011, 02:05 AM
News tonight says California Social Services is investigating the mom & she may lose custody of her.

Thats good news...I thought maybe it was for migranes at first, but no...stupid mother!! :mad:

Chubbykins
05-14-2011, 04:30 AM
She should be persecuted for physical abuse of her child. She did after all alter the child's body medically. That can't be legal in the U.S. It sure like **** isn't legal here, unless there has been a doctor's permission.

helwa588
05-14-2011, 07:40 AM
Honestly this should be illegal. And the fact that she gets the botox from a secret source is disturbing. she's putting her child in danger. a 8 year old doesn't have wrinkles. poor girl she's probably going to wind up have some type of body image disorder because the stupidity of her mother.


i think child pageants should be banned in this country. there are always horror stories coming from pageant children and their moms.

FrouFrou
05-14-2011, 03:00 PM
Crazy! And yes...NOT only in California, not sure why people think things only happen in CA, anyway...I honestly don't know what is wrong with some parents. I didn't see this but it is crazy and it does start young and it's sad that people can't be happy with who they are. My daughter had a friend whose parents gave her a nose job for her 14th birthday.

I have watched epidsodes of the Toddlers in Tiaras...those parents are messed up!

If a person as an adult wants to do it fine, but to do it to an 8 year old, wow. Really don't even know what to say.

bargoo
05-14-2011, 04:46 PM
Why does California always get a bad rap ? California has , probably the majority of parents who are kind, loving, sensible and who would never do anything so stupid to their children .

Regera Dowdy
05-15-2011, 12:45 AM
i think child pageants should be banned in this country. there are always horror stories coming from pageant children and their moms.

Agreed. I think it's a shame for adult women to be involved in it because of the message beauty pageants send, but they're adults who have the right to choose their own lifestyle. For a developing girl (or boy), whether she's a young teenager or a little girl, to be judged on her looks is vile. The message to girls and women about good looks being worth more than any other quality is widespread and consistent, so there's no need to encourage it. This is when children are realizing their place in the world. It sends a message to them that they have to be the most beautiful or they aren't number one. What parent would do this? All your children need to know about their beauty is that you find them beautiful.

In the report on ABC News, someone mentioned the sexualization of these girls. That's what bothers me the most. It sends an inconsistent message. Children aren't sex objects, but let's dress them up that way. As people concerned for the welfare of children, we shouldn't say one thing while doing another. Playing dress up is one thing. Being tarted up in heels and an evening gown by your mother after she waxes you and injects you with botox is another thing entirely.

California has , probably the majority of parents who are kind, loving, sensible and who would never do anything so stupid to their children .

Lol, I understood what you meant, but it looked like you said the majority of kind, loving and sensible parents live in California. ;) I think the vast majority of parents anywhere value their children as more than a Barbie doll or a tool to prop up their own egos. But it only takes a few...

Did they find out who the guy in the "doctor scene" is? If there's a chance that the lady got it from a shady source, she could have harmed her daughter even more. What kind of "friends" is this girl making at pageants that they tell her she's wrinkly? The mom says the other pageant moms do it, and they convinced her that her daughter had a problem. Seriously, think for yourself, lady.

milmin2043
05-15-2011, 02:13 AM
She should be persecuted for physical abuse of her child. She did after all alter the child's body medically. That can't be legal in the U.S. It sure like **** isn't legal here, unless there has been a doctor's permission.

I know that this will not be a popular opinion, but I also don't believe in circumcision or ear piercing on babies and little kids. I feel they can decide for themselves when they are of legal age. What and who gives us the right as parents to alter our children medically for absolutely no reason. Pain and procedures that are necessary for health reasons are bad enough, why does anyone want to cause unnecessary pain? I don't get it. :?:

fatferretfanatic
05-15-2011, 07:44 AM
I know that this will not be a popular opinion, but I also don't believe in circumcision or ear piercing on babies and little kids. I feel they can decide for themselves when they are of legal age. What and who gives us the right as parents to alter our children medically for absolutely no reason. Pain and procedures that are necessary for health reasons are bad enough, why does anyone want to cause unnecessary pain? I don't get it. :?:

Agreed!

shcirerf
05-15-2011, 01:22 PM
If you've ever watched Toddlers and Tiara's, those moms are flippin psycho!

Those little girls have fake teeth, fake tans, fake hair, fake nails, and now fake faces?

THe only thing that is getting judged here is which parent has enough money to buy the bestest and mostest fake stuff.

ryeb
05-15-2011, 04:46 PM
Milmin, I agree with the ear piercing part. I got mine done when I was around 10-11. I think that is an appropriate age for ears. Circumcision, well I am mixed about it.... But I know this is not a debate board, so I will not go into it :)

cherrypie
05-15-2011, 05:03 PM
I know that this will not be a popular opinion, but I also don't believe in circumcision or ear piercing on babies and little kids. I feel they can decide for themselves when they are of legal age. What and who gives us the right as parents to alter our children medically for absolutely no reason. Pain and procedures that are necessary for health reasons are bad enough, why does anyone want to cause unnecessary pain? I don't get it. :?:

I agree.

kaplods
05-15-2011, 06:23 PM
I finally saw this last night on the news - majorly creepy.

The problem I have is that after seeing one or two of the "behind the scenes" shows, it sadly doesn't seem that extreme in comparison to all the other stuff that goes on- it's just taking it to the next (sadly logical to the twisted logic of the pageants) step.

They all seem to mirror and mimic what is done in the adult pageants, so if adult pageant contestants do it, these moms find a way to do it to their kids.

I think a lot of people see this as "crossing" some moral line, but I think that line was crossed long ago (and by every adult in the child pageant business). In comparison to everything else I've seen that goes on in these pageants, injecting botox seems to be no worse than most.

Unfortunately, with a child welfare system that is overburdened nation-wide, I don't see a crackdown on the entire pageant system as very likely. An example might be made of this woman, but I do believe when she says that it's common practice. And if so, cracking down on one parent doesn't address the behavior (it will just go underground).

I would want Child Protective Services in every state to investigate the pageants themselves.

They're virtually child pornography rings (having worked in law enforcement I know that people have been arrested for possessing child pornography that was no more explicit than what is seen in these child pageants).

What I don't understand is why these parents don't get the same creepy-crawly sensation that I do (as an adult without children). If I can see that the children are being sexualized, why can't the parents? I think it's because the attention (both for themselves directly and vicariously through the child) feels so good, it's hard to focus on anything else (but that's what child predation and generically predation of any type with any aged victim, is all about).

Attention doesn't mean love. How can these children learn it, if their parents don't get it?

bargoo
05-15-2011, 06:34 PM
Instead of looking like the cute chidren that they are , they actually look like street walkers. We grow old fast enough , let them be kids while they are.

randomness123
05-15-2011, 07:12 PM
absolutely ridiculous! So sad...and the mom already has her daughter brainwashed

ddc
05-16-2011, 12:45 PM
I read a story this morning that child protective services were investigating this mom.
I hope this all works out for what's best for that sweet little girl.

milmin2043
05-16-2011, 05:22 PM
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfgate.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fblogs%2Fsfmoms%2Fdetail%3Fentry_id%3D89044&h=0edd0

Justice prevails. I do feel incredibly sorry for this little girl. I hope that the mom sees the error of her ways and that they can be reunited.

RachaelJ
05-17-2011, 08:32 AM
I do believe this mom should have been investigated and I'm pleased they stepped in and took her away. I have an 8 year old and by no means do I think she'll need botox. It's illegal to even give your child a tattoo at a young age so that should be illegal also.

Pagents get out of hand and after the Jon Bonet case and seeing Toddler's and Tiaras I don't see the point. The extremes that those stage moms go to to get little girls to look so "dollish" is unreal.

cbmare
05-17-2011, 12:43 PM
It isn't just pageants. Think about what parents of child actors and child models do. That is usually just make up, not injections, but it is pressure on the child to excel. Poor kids. Like Kaplods said, it is others as well. It is throughout the pageant. Everyone of those parents are guilty of something. Stupidity and selfishness if nothing else.

Stupid should hurt.

JEN3
05-17-2011, 05:44 PM
IMO, those beauty pageants are every pedophiles dream.

JuliaDH
05-19-2011, 02:39 PM
Since when do 8 yr olds have wrinkles?

I agree this is unacceptable behaviour.

Children should be made to feel valued & attractive without fake enhancements which hide thier natural beauty.

beerab
05-19-2011, 02:48 PM
I just heard on the radio the whole thing was a big hoax. The mom did the story for whatever magazine as a hoax and apparently it spiraled out of control.

http://gawker.com/5803559/botox-mom-confesses-it-was-all-a-hoax

MiZTaCCen
05-19-2011, 03:15 PM
I could say something which I truely mean which is beyond I don't think is harsh, but I'm sure someone here would go off the wall on the comment. So I'll leave it to myself and just say I hope that mother get's what she deserves in the end for screwing up her child.

cbmare
05-19-2011, 03:37 PM
I just heard on the radio the whole thing was a big hoax. The mom did the story for whatever magazine as a hoax and apparently it spiraled out of control.

http://gawker.com/5803559/botox-mom-confesses-it-was-all-a-hoax

Thanks for this. I think I am even more outraged. She dragged her child into this hoax. All for $200! She cost the taxpayers a chunk of change for this investigation. That $200 should be forfeited to pay for part of it. In fact, she should have to repay the state.

I read the article and it stated that a cousin was staying with them for the time being. It didn't say why. It did state, "All three have been strictly prohibited from contact with silver weather balloons." What does that mean?

eclipse
05-19-2011, 03:41 PM
My guess is that the weather balloon comment was a joke, referring to the "balloon boy" hoax where the family pretended that their kid had been blown away with a weather balloon.

midwife
05-19-2011, 03:43 PM
Thanks for this. I think I am even more outraged. She dragged her child into this hoax. All for $200! She cost the taxpayers a chunk of change for this investigation. That $200 should be forfeited to pay for part of it. In fact, she should have to repay the state.

I read the article and it stated that a cousin was staying with them for the time being. It didn't say why. It did state, "All three have been strictly prohibited from contact with silver weather balloons." What does that mean?

I'm thinking it's a reference to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balloon_boy_hoax

cbmare
05-19-2011, 04:21 PM
Forgot about balloon boy.

Do you think she could be lying now? I would think that they could find out if that kid was in fact in pageants.

mzKiki
05-19-2011, 09:24 PM
I saw on the news it was all a lie. Social Services took the child & after a medical exam & blood tests found no traces of botox. She then admitted that the Sun gave her a script, paid her some $ and ran the story they made up. GMA heard abt it and offered her 10K to come on. She's really poor and accepted the $ and kept the lie going. But she was totally lying lol. Not worth losing your kid for though.

milmin2043
05-20-2011, 06:41 AM
I understand being broke and having children. Been there, done that, as so many of us have.

However, I still think this is child abuse, botox or not. What the heck did she teach her daughter with this hoax? I know this seems harsh, but she should still lose custody until such time that she can be taught right from wrong (perhaps repeat kindergarten), not to lie, steal, and cheat, and how to be a decent person. Oh nevermind, at her age, it's too late.

People never cease to amaze me with their greed and stupidity. Her poor daughter is now the victim of both.

Ciao
05-20-2011, 08:00 AM
I cannot seem to wrap my brain around this. It is one of those things you hear that are so shockingly disgusting that it is beyond thoughts.

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/JeMappelleSierra/Pictures/clipart2-1.png

I feel the same.

Whether it's a hoax or not, I just can't
believe anyone doing this to a young child.

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/JeMappelleSierra/Pictures/clipart2.png