Weight Loss Support - not sure what weight loss method to use




seabiscuit
04-11-2011, 05:32 PM
Hi everyone,

I know that this is ultimately my decision, but I am just thinking aloud here.

I have tried a lot of weight loss methods and am not sure what to try now. I am thinking of going back to Jenny Craig but the expense is really what gets me. Weight Watchers worked for me for awhile but when I tried it recently, it didn't. I am on a budget and I thought that working with my nurse practitioner for nutrition counseling might be a good idea because that is covered by insurance but it feels a bit restrictive. I am supposed to see her next week so maybe I can talk to her about that. I've tried LA Weight Loss, Medifast and diet pills with short lived success.

I'm not sure what to try next. I feel frustrated because I need to get this weight off but I give up easily with any weight loss program. :(

What has worked for you?


zoodoo613
04-11-2011, 05:41 PM
What about WW didn't work for you this time? And what's restrictive about the nutritionist?

I'm currently tracking calories. It's working for me now, and always has for me in the past, as long as I DO it. I'm trying to eat a lot of fruits and veggies, and am mostly steering clear of processed foods.

seabiscuit
04-11-2011, 05:52 PM
Thanks for your reply.

I'm not sure exactly what about WW didn't click, I just got frustrated if I went over the points, and constantly having to track them, like I get tired of having to write down what I eat for the nurse practitioner. That's why I thought JC would work because it is written down ahead of time and I can swap a certain entree for another on any given day. It's just that JC is so expensive and I am on a budget. I think also the frustrating thing about what I have set up with the nurse practitioner is she said I can ONLY have protein snacks or a cup of popcorn for snacks, not fruit or carbs or anything and to me that feels restrictive. I like some flexibility in my plans or else I tend to rebel.

Thanks.


LisaP916
04-11-2011, 06:27 PM
So you're saying you want to lose weight permanently, but you don't want to do any work like track your food or count calories or follow a nutritionist's plan? If you find a plan like that, please share it with the rest of us! We'd all love to sign up!


I hate to say it, but there is going to be work involved. The reason those other plans only provided "short lived success" is because they are not long term solutions. Working through a program like WW or your nutritionist is what's going to change your habits and provide a long term solution.

I think you're going to have to be more open-minded and change your mind set so you don't give up so easily. Commit yourself to the work and you will see success.

seagirl
04-11-2011, 07:00 PM
So you're saying you want to lose weight permanently, but you don't want to do any work like track your food or count calories or follow a nutritionist's plan? If you find a plan like that, please share it with the rest of us! We'd all love to sign up!


I hate to say it, but there is going to be work involved. The reason those other plans only provided "short lived success" is because they are not long term solutions. Working through a program like WW or your nutritionist is what's going to change your habits and provide a long term solution.

I think you're going to have to be more open-minded and change your mind set so you don't give up so easily. Commit yourself to the work and you will see success.


Yep to all this.

Nola Celeste
04-11-2011, 07:07 PM
I did Jenny Craig and had great success that lasted for years. Unfortunately, Jenny's way too costly for my current budget so, like you, I looked for other alternatives.

What has worked for me for months is plain ol' calorie counting. It's only as expensive as I make it. It is the absolute least restrictive possibility out there, as nothing is off-limits as long as your portions are in line. It can even have some variability if you want to do a zig-zag method and vary your daily calories from day to day; plenty of people like that their weekends are more calorific, permitting them to go out to eat and such.

However (and you knew there'd be one :D)...

You have to be rigorous somewhere. If you aren't rigorous about the types of foods you eat, you have to be rigorous about the amounts you eat. That means weighing and/or measuring your portions and writing down what you eat. I know you mentioned that you find keeping a food journal tedious, and yeah, sometimes it's a little bit of a PITA, but when the alternative is losing track of a sandwich here or a dollop of hummus there and wondering why I can't lose weight...yeah, I'll make the effort. It's ten minutes out of my day to write that stuff down, max.

Doesn't Jenny Craig make you keep a food journal any more? They did when I went. There was the pre-printed menu, but you also had to write stuff down yourself as the printed sheet didn't include all your snacks and such. Then again, that was years ago, so maybe they've dropped that. I'd be surprised if they did, though; research shows that people who write their food down consume 10 to 20% less without even trying to diet simply from being conscious of what they're eating.

As for portion control, if you get a food scale with a tare/zero function, it's a breeze. Turn on scale, set empty bowl on scale, hit "zero," add food to bowl, stop when you hit the appropriate number of ounces or grams, voila! No muss, no fuss, no measuring cups to clean.

I thought a lot of this stuff--the measuring, the writing, the counting--would make me feel uncomfortably obsessed. It doesn't. I feel no more obsessive about food than I feel obsessive about my teeth because I brush them twice a day. I'm not obsessive about my hair because I brush it several times a day, am I? Nope, because those are necessary maintenance tasks. They're what I do to keep myself in order. So is counting calories.

Congratulations on losing nearly fifty pounds so far! What got you this far? That's impressive weight loss, and maybe you can build on your previous success with few changes. :)

xty
04-11-2011, 07:17 PM
Im super analytical, so I would suggest (as others have indicated too) that you think back about what worked, what didnt work and why.

Use what worked and try to find solutions to what didnt work so that you can customize a plan to your own needs!

DrivenByAmbition
04-11-2011, 07:19 PM
I hate to say it, but there is going to be work involved. The reason those other plans only provided "short lived success" is because they are not long term solutions. Working through a program like WW or your nutritionist is what's going to change your habits and provide a long term solution.



Very true... Just find what works for you and know you are going to have to put forth the effort. Think about what it will be like in the end.

surfergirl2
04-11-2011, 07:29 PM
This is how i see it. It's all about calories in vs. calories out. There is no magic diet that can make your body burn more calories than the laws of science allows. So all the different diets are just different ways for people to manage their calories. Some people feel unrestricted on Atkins because they are just naturally not prone to overeating if they don't eat carbs. That doesn't work for me--i STILL overeat if i don't eat carbs. So i choose to count calories. I like sugar. So i work it into my diet.

JoJoJo2
04-11-2011, 07:31 PM
Is there work involved in this losing weight business? Absolutely!!!

Is it worth it" Again - absolutely!!!

Any healthy plan you pick will involve some work. Pick the one you can work with and get started. You'll be glad you did.

I personally lost my weight using the exchange plan. It worked for me. :wave:

seabiscuit
04-11-2011, 07:52 PM
I'm not saying I want a plan with no work involved, I'm sorry if that was misunderstood.

I know that any plan is going to have work involved, and I am okay with that. I lost almost 50 lbs partially due to an illness, but also doing work on WW, and on Medifast. Not to be defensive but I do know a lot about hard work. "nothing good comes easily!"

I just can't seem to stick to a plan for a long time, don't know why I give up on it so easily. It's not that I don't want to do the work, it's just that I get frustrated and bored. I kinda feel at wit's end now that I feel that Overeaters anonymous is not working for me, I found that it was not the plan for me either and I don't know how to choose the right plan. It seems like I have tried so many plans that I have had not that much success on and I don't know why. I'm just not sure which weight loss road to choose and I know I am the one who can ultimately make that decision so I guess I am just looking for support and what methods have worked for others. What is the exchange plan?

InControl2Day
04-11-2011, 08:02 PM
I just can't seem to stick to a plan for a long time, don't know why I give up on it so easily. It's not that I don't want to do the work, it's just that I get frustrated and bored. I kinda feel at wit's end now that I feel that Overeaters anonymous is not working for me, I found that it was not the plan for me either and I don't know how to choose the right plan. It seems like I have tried so many plans that I have had not that much success on and I don't know why. I'm just not sure which weight loss road to choose and I know I am the one who can ultimately make that decision so I guess I am just looking for support and what methods have worked for others. What is the exchange plan?

I'm getting really mixed messages from your posts so I think you need to sort out your own feelings about your journey and past to decide for yourself what's best for you in the future.

I first get the impression that you get frustrated when you eat too much or aren't perfectly on plan. Then you talk about being bored and frustrated not seeing much success on the plan. I get the frustrated part.. it's just the "bored" word and not seeing much success that's throwing me off.

How long are you giving each plan before you decide it's not working? How honest are you with following the plan?

If you are "bored", maybe you aren't motivated to lose the weight in the first place? I guess re-examine why you started off on this journey. How did you feel at your highest weight compared to your current weight? I don't think I've every thought my journey was exciting because of calorie counting. I thought it was exciting because I was becoming a better and happier version of myself.

I treated this journey as a lifestyle change and not a temporary fix. I have bad days and I have good days but I never give up. I know I'll get there, I just don't have a REAL deadline since it's forever.

Best of luck to you!

surfergirl2
04-11-2011, 08:06 PM
You don't need to wait until you find the perfect plan. You can start eating healthier NOW. Start by cutting back a little bit on your portions and eating more veggies. I think that generic advice can help almost ANYONE looking to lose weight. Figure out what foods trigger you to overeat. Cut those out. Figure it out as you go. Don't wait for the perfect plan to hit you. It's something you need to figure out.

seabiscuit
04-11-2011, 08:37 PM
Sorry for any confusion!

I do get frustrated if I can't follow a plan to the letter and then I want to throw my hands up and give up! I am somewhat of a perfectionist. I do get bored easily with structure too so after awhile of doing the same thing I get tired of repetition which is why I think I don't have long term success.

I've given plans months of time to decide if it is working. Often times it has worked, just hard to keep going.

I have some motivation to lose weight, well at least I don't want to be at the current weight that I am now so that is the motivation that I have.

You both gave me some great tips.

Thanks.

HappilyMe
04-11-2011, 08:37 PM
You don't need to wait until you find the perfect plan. You can start eating healthier NOW. Start by cutting back a little bit on your portions and eating more veggies. I think that generic advice can help almost ANYONE looking to lose weight. Figure out what foods trigger you to overeat. Cut those out. Figure it out as you go. Don't wait for the perfect plan to hit you. It's something you need to figure out.

I think this is really good advice... if I understood your op correctly, it seems like maybe you are tired of "plans" in general? I know for myself, restrictive diets and counting-type diets do not work. I don't like anything to be off limits and I don't want to count or track calories for the rest of my life, so its pointless for me to lose weight that way.

I wasn't successful until I started following the "HappilyMe" plan of simply eating healthier foods (veggies, fruits, whole grains etc) using recipes from healthy cookbooks like Cooking Light or TBL (low-cal, low-fat and healthy meals that are easy and quick) and exercising 45-60 min 5-6 days a week. No counting, tracking, or eating off acceptable food lists and I still eat foods I love, either in moderation or by creating a healthier version.

Sometimes the best plan is the one you create for yourself.

seabiscuit
04-11-2011, 09:20 PM
Thanks HappilyMe :)

Maybe what I am looking for is a similar path like you have found, to do it MYSELF. Thanks again.

zoodoo613
04-11-2011, 10:06 PM
I wasn't successful until I started following the "HappilyMe" plan of simply eating healthier foods (veggies, fruits, whole grains etc) using recipes from healthy cookbooks like Cooking Light or TBL (low-cal, low-fat and healthy meals that are easy and quick) and exercising 45-60 min 5-6 days a week. No counting, tracking, or eating off acceptable food lists and I still eat foods I love, either in moderation or by creating a healthier version.

Sometimes the best plan is the one you create for yourself.

This is an awful lot like what I'm doing too. I'm tracking my calories, but I don't have a goal, or a limit. I just see. If it stops working, I'll have the food log to go back to see what I can change.

InControl2Day
04-11-2011, 10:13 PM
I just wanted to say that the OP is one of the most open minded people I've seen on the forums. She asked for help and didn't lash out when people wrote things to offer suggestions.

Seabiscuit: I really do hope you succeed.

Nola Celeste
04-11-2011, 11:13 PM
Like HappilyMe, I count calories and have a nominal "goal" in mind for the boards, but my actual goal is "weigh less next month than I do this month." My caloric goal for the day is 1500 calories, but I can reach that goal however I choose.

I tend to get bored easily myself. My workout routines, my diet staples, even my meal times need to change up occasionally or I start to get cranky. Jenny Craig took 70 pounds off of me in about five months--super-fast, yeah, but by the time I was looking down the barrel of my sixth month, I couldn't have choked down another plum chicken or Salisbury steak.

Now I don't have to worry about that because when I get bored, I can change it up however I want. And because I set all my goals in relation to my behavior--the stuff I CAN control--I don't let myself feel discouraged about not meeting a weight goal because that's something I can't control as precisely.

indiblue
04-11-2011, 11:40 PM
I stubbornly think that the best place to start is common sense eating.

Like what surfergirl and Happy said, this means
1. Cutting out almost all processed food (I'll take a slice of homemade chocolate cake over a lean cuisine any day!)
2. Cutting out simple refined carbs (white rice, potato, white bread, high fructose corn syrup)
3. Eating lots of lean proteins
4. Eating very few grains
5. Eating lots of fresh fruits and vegetables
6. Drinking lots of water
7. Reduce portion size

Don't diet, instead nourish your body. Feed it whole, unprocessed foods as much as possible.

I didn't put any numbers on this list, only vague descriptions like "most" or "lots." Play around with what works for you. I need a Diet Coke every other day, some people need a pizza splurge from time to time to keep them sane. 50 g of protein may be "a lot" for me but it's pitiful for someone else. Cutting out "most" grains may be ok, cutting out all grains may be critical for someone else. Play around with what works with your body. I personally have to calorie count on top of these steps I listed, but that's where I am. Maybe you don't.

Dieting should be an act of kindness and love towards your body by providing it the fuel and nutrients it needs to be strong and beautiful, not a repeated self-flagellation of deprivation and sacrifice.

I wish you all the best of luck on your journey!! :hug:

seabiscuit
04-11-2011, 11:40 PM
I think I may start writing down what I eat again so I can see where I can make positive changes.

Yeah I agree with what you are saying about JC, I think it is a great weight loss program but I got sick of it because I could only take so much of that packaged food. It took the weight off quickly with me too but it is expensive and I am glad someone else can understand what it is like to get bored.

Thanks for the positive success wishes!

LisaP916
04-12-2011, 08:38 AM
I guess I just no longer accept "getting bored" as a valid reason for going off plan and throwing away all the work that I've done. There are some days - sometimes weeks - when my job is boring. I can't just walk off the job because of it. Taking care of my body and getting healthy is my job, and my boss is kind of a b!tch, so I have to do it well! Getting bored is not an option! LOL!

JoJoJo2
04-12-2011, 09:10 AM
<<<What is the exchange plan?>>>

In the exchange system, foods are grouped into basic types — starches, fruits, milk, meat, sweets, fats and free foods. Within each group, you'll see how much you can eat of various foods for the same amount of calories, carbohydrates and other nutrients. You can exchange or trade foods within a group because they're similar in nutrient content and the manner in which they affect your blood sugar.

I find that this plan gives me ample opportunity to eat the foods I want to eat, yet it helps me control my eating. Therefore I never get bored with my eating plan.

For further information on the exchange plan, use a search engine. There's lots of info out there.

jessy 49
04-12-2011, 11:13 AM
I *think* journeying along the weight loss road is something you have to be ready for...the right mindset. You need to be in a place where you can push through those moments along the journey when your faced with trials and tribulations such as giving into temptation too often, losing hope and faith that your hard work will pay off, that the brass ring of goal weight is obtainable...otherwise all too soon failure comes knocking at the door.

Don't diet. Make a change of mindset. A thought process and lifestyle change.

Good luck to you. :)

- Avery
I believe that this is excellent advice. You must have the mindset in order to make it work for the long term.

I also feel that you have to make changes that you can sustain for a very long time. We didn't get this way in a few months ... and it will take longer than a few months to fix the problem :) In fact, I'm begun to believe that the words 'diet' or 'program' won't work for those of us who come here with many years of overweight behind us. It has to be sustainable change.

fiddler
04-12-2011, 11:42 AM
My plan basically consists of:

1. Eating whole (not processed) foods
2. Exercising a lot
3. Re-training my body to recognize hunger and satiety signals so I don't overeat

What keeps me from getting bored is cooking. I have more cookbooks than the public library, in all different ethnic cuisines, so there is always something new to try. It helps me save money, too, since I cook in quantity then freeze individual portions for later.

JohnP
04-12-2011, 12:20 PM
For people who don't want to count calories which is what I do I always suggest strict paleo or new atkins because it is almost impossible to not lose weight if you follow the rules of those two plans.

SBD Sass
04-12-2011, 01:00 PM
You don't need a diet plan. Just make better food choices...make yourself eat meat, veggies, nuts, seeds, some fruit, little to no starch and no sugar - period. It's not torture, it's the right thing to do for yourself and your body. You can have the occasional bad snack not a meal, but just a bad snack (watch your calories) and if only you know you deserve it...not a meal. Make sure you're getting in some physical activity.

Dedicate 5-6 hours per week if you can do moving around. Find exercise you like and run with it. Work at your own pace and chart your progress as you go along. The better you are at being consistent, the more energy you will gain to work even harder and longer.

This may sound crappy, but believe in yourself and that's all you'll need to come out on top once and for all.

seabiscuit
04-12-2011, 09:09 PM
I appreciate those of you who have given me some encouraging, smart, kind replies- thanks.

j0lamo01
04-12-2011, 10:48 PM
I write down everything I eat and track calories I use this website to find out how many calories to eat a day for weight loss

http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

inanesam
04-13-2011, 09:44 AM
I know how you feel about being frustrated. The thought of following a plan or writing down what I eat everyday just made me stop before I ever began. It wasn't that I was lazy or unmotivated, but it just seemed like I would have to do it FOREVER and it was a depressing thought.

BUT, I knew that I had to do something. I know what has absolutely not worked in the past (i.e. restrictive plans) and what has given me some success (portion control and calorie counting), so I went with the calorie counting. Logging my food hasn't been nearly as bad as I imagined since I utilize some tools online, rather than toting a notebook around. I use the Daily Plate and it's been really fun and easy.

I know that I won't have to log my food forever because if you are attentive, you'll learn correct portion sizes and which foods are a bit better than others. After awhile, I learned that I didn't want to eat 1500 calories of junky food all day, but rather 1500 calories of healthy foods that make me feel good.

A bonus for food tracking is that I started to find foods that were triggering stomach issues in my body (hello, soda!) and eliminated it. It was neat.

Just a plug for food tracking and calorie counting! (-: If you use them as a learning tool, you won't have to dedicate the rest of your life after goal to it.

Good luck on finding the right way of eating for you. I think the most important lesson on any eating plan and lifestyle change is not to give up because you have a bad day. I used to do it all the time ("well, i just blew it with cake, so I might as well eat crappy today...and tomorrow...and the next day"). BUUUT, if you have a bad day, it's not so bad as long as you get right back onto your plan afterwards. Took me a long time to learn that, and I'm glad I finally stopped giving up and keep trying.

K9Owner
04-13-2011, 05:14 PM
So you're saying you want to lose weight permanently, but you don't want to do any work like track your food or count calories or follow a nutritionist's plan? If you find a plan like that, please share it with the rest of us! We'd all love to sign up!


:rofl: I LOVE SARCASM!!!

Since you obviously have internet access, you might give one of the free calorie trackers--like my fitness pal--a try. You can save your foods and just click to re-add them. It's really easy once you have saved food for about a week!

((soon 2b ticker)) HA :D

SCraver
04-13-2011, 05:54 PM
I like to read and read and read. And experiment and experiment and experiment. I read about other plans, pick out what suits me and toss the rest.
- For ex. WW taught me about portions (but the point thing drives me nuts).
- Using Lean Cuisines helped me learn that I need convenience and I need good food choices easily available to me. Now I make dinners in bulk, divide them into single serving containers and freeze them.
- A little practice with Intuitive Eating helped me learn that hunger is not something to fear. I can simply eat a snack and it will go away.
- Exercise is fun if you find things you actually ENJOY doing
- Vegetarians: beans or tofu can be yummy! And you don't have to be a veggie to eat them!

What about WW DID work for you? What about Jenny Craig worked? You said they have a menu and you just go with that? Why not set up your own menu, prep your own meals? Like I said above, I like to do big dinners and freeze the leftovers. You could do big batches of recipes and freeze them for convenience.

I found this blog (http://amysmithr.blogspot.com/2005/08/how-i-do-ns-with-my-own-food.html)where the girl does her own version of Nurti System and posted her recipes.

seabiscuit
04-13-2011, 06:14 PM
Thanks for the online calorie counting/food journaling ideas. I looked up both the daily plate and my fitness pal and they look great :) I'm not sure which one I'll go with but I will choose one or the other. I wonder if it is possible to print what I track on the site.

I am trying both sites and I like the daily plate better and I think I will use the mobile app for my blackberry! THANKS!

Thanks for the good ideas.

Tonyia
04-13-2011, 09:24 PM
I hope you find what you are looking for. I recently came to the realization that when I felt frustrated with all the "plans" available to me it was only ME trying to justify to myself why I wasn't trying.

Seriously, the only plan that didn't work for me were the ones I ended up quitting because it took to long. In reality (and I learned this from here) losing weight is a learning process, trial and error of what works for us. Not everything works for everyone. I will say though that good determination, calorie counting (healthy foods) and exercise (I know the dreaded exercise word) DOES work. It may be slow but it does work, I promise you that if you will just dedicate 8weeks of your life to calorie counting and working out daily you WILL see a difference.

justbecause
04-13-2011, 09:33 PM
Hi everyone,

I know that this is ultimately my decision, but I am just thinking aloud here.

I have tried a lot of weight loss methods and am not sure what to try now. I am thinking of going back to Jenny Craig but the expense is really what gets me. Weight Watchers worked for me for awhile but when I tried it recently, it didn't. I am on a budget and I thought that working with my nurse practitioner for nutrition counseling might be a good idea because that is covered by insurance but it feels a bit restrictive. I am supposed to see her next week so maybe I can talk to her about that. I've tried LA Weight Loss, Medifast and diet pills with short lived success.

I'm not sure what to try next. I feel frustrated because I need to get this weight off but I give up easily with any weight loss program. :(

What has worked for you?

try the ip diet by dr tran it really works and fast

seabiscuit
04-13-2011, 10:36 PM
I find the tracking with the Daily Plate by Livestrong.com really helpful! I can't believe how many calories I consume so quickly! That is a big eye opener! I will definitely continue that.

I appreciate all the ideas, advice and suggestions.

theCandEs
04-14-2011, 10:28 AM
For people who don't want to count calories which is what I do I always suggest strict paleo or new atkins because it is almost impossible to not lose weight if you follow the rules of those two plans.

I second this! I hate counting calories, and I don't even like counting carbs. I do a primal/paleo-ish diet and I've lost a lot of weight in a very short time. It works for me. Good luck to you!