Weight Loss Support - Binged on chips grrrr starting again!




going2bskinny
04-04-2011, 05:36 PM
Hey thought I would post this so I can scold myself so I don't do it again. I have been allowing myself to cheat and eat candy and carbs like chips I bought chips from the store thinking I could control myself and just have a little well we know how that goes I binged and ate like the whole bag and not just one day like 4 days. Surprised I didn't pass out with a heart attack from all the salt not to mention I probably gained tons of weight back now I haven't checked yet I don't think I'm going to till after this week of doing good or so lol. I have just been doing really crappy in general haven't been drinking my water eating pretty much whatever I want and way too much again. Haven't been doing any exercise.

So anyways today is my start again I did really good so far and I plan to keep it up the biggest thing I am going to stick to is not allowing myself to cheat anymore. I will be eating mostly veggies and fruit lean meats like chicken, fish, turkey, crab or shrimp. Only carbs I am allowing myself besides the veggies of course is Ak Mak cracker, Ezekiel bread, oatmeal but no sugar kind I will just use some cinnamon and some fresh fruit maybe, beans, or Jasmine Brown rice I have some cous cous I need to eat still but I probably won't buy that again after I finish it I am only going to have one of those a day or I'll skip it all together if I am not craving a carb. I also will be having some cheese but I will keep that to a minimum of like one time a day I have some string cheese and shredded cheese still. So mostly I'm cutting out all sugar no bad carbs keeping carbs to a very low minimum keeping cheese to a very low minimum if I want milk I will make my own almond milk also I will allow myself some almonds for a snack but maybe only a couple times a week or so. There might be a little sugar in some of the sauces I use for the meat I will be cooking but I will keep that to a very low minimum as well for anything that uses sugar.

I am also going to be cutting out anything with artificial flavoring or sweeteners so no diet drinks or even gum I am going to be cutting out which I am addicted to gum lol so that's kinda hard for me lol. For when I am craving diet pop I will have green iced tea with lemon and sparkling spring water I make myself. And for my chip substitute I will be using Roasted Seaweed snacks from trader joes! Love those :o I have a few sobe lean drinks I will be drinking sometimes but probably won't buy again. As far as I know it doesn't have any artificial sweeteners though it says all natural but can't be too sure with this stuff really so I probably won't buy it again. Unless anyone knows if it is okay for sure or not.

I will be doing 30 mins of cardio a day 10 mins warm up moderate and then 20 minutes of intense interval sprinting just on my rebounder and monday wednesday friday I will be doing light weights and my floor exercises for building muscle. And since summer is coming I will do whatever extra I can outside just having fun.

So that's the plan mostly cutting out sugar and most carbs and just posted some of my ideas for substitutes incase anyone wants to join me on this plan or something. Also does that sound like a pretty good plan? Is there anything important I am cutting out? For anyone who knows a ton about nutrition.

Oh also I will be fasting on Saturday and Sunday only allowing myself green tea water and grapefruit. 1 or 2 of them.

Also will try to drink 1 gallon of water a day.


Lori Bell
04-04-2011, 06:21 PM
YIKES! What ever happened to one day at a time?! :)

In my very humble opinion, I would say to start with something easy and not so mind boggling...say... like counting your daily calories and trying to stick to under to 1800ish a day. Don't worry about anything but that for a week or so, then report back with us. ;)

sacha
04-04-2011, 06:39 PM
My humble opinion, as a long-term maintainer.

If we cannot stick with the basics (portion control. not binging. making good choices.) then an "extreme" plan (fasting on the weekend? For what reason? Is it because you can't moderate? Either you will binge or you just starve) is not going to do the trick.

Changing the body starts in the mind. There is a big difference between people who need to set limits for themselves (ie. they binge on cookies so they say NO MORE COOKIES, EVER) and people who set up a huge amount of arbitrary rules to restrain themselves from having to... make moderate decisions and control themselves in an uncontrolled environment :)


beerab
04-04-2011, 06:47 PM
Yeah no offense but I think you are setting yourself up for failure. Why are you going to only eat 1 or 2 grapefruit on the weekends? What's the point of that?

I agree with a sensible plan of exercising a few times a week, cutting out the junk, eating whole foods prepared by you, and taking it a day at a time.

We all binge now and then- it happens- but I think you should figure out why you binged. 9 times out of 10 the reason I've binged is because I allowed myself to get too hungry. Now binges rarely happen for me because I make sure I eat every few hours. :)

MonicaM
04-04-2011, 07:12 PM
I would never consider fasting.

going2bskinny
04-04-2011, 07:55 PM
lol that one day at a time idea sounds pretty nice think I'm driving myself nuts here. I was kind of trying to make a grocery list for myself too I'm going to the store tomorrow.

The fasting was just for losing weight faster and kind of a detox I'm trying to combine detoxing and weight loss but something I can stick to besides just a water fast for a long time.

I did some water fasting before I actually liked it I did an 8 day water fast and then a 5 day water fast and a week long green juice fast. As long as I control myself after they are alright I think.

I was doing 1200 calories a day but I really hate counting every little thing I eat all day this way it was pretty much the way I ate already on the 1200 calorie diet and then I don't have to count calories. And still can eat 3 times a day with 2 little snacks. Without having to cook much I don't really have much for a kitchen.

oh and I know why I binged I have been very stressed out lately lol and I just never could control myself with chips for some reason so I won't be buying them anymore been burned by that one over and over again. Other food I do pretty good not overeating with besides pizza won't be buying that either. I just can't do cheat meals or treats basically, it throws me off too bad.

LisaP916
04-04-2011, 10:09 PM
I'm sorry, I'm with the others. That's not a healthy plan in any way. You need some balance and like someone else said, you can't change the body until you change the mind. You won't achieve and sustain a healthy weight unless you have a LIFESTYLE you can maintain.

going2bskinny
04-04-2011, 10:27 PM
is the eating plan unhealthy or just the 2 days of fasting I thought the food was pretty balanced?

LisaP916
04-04-2011, 10:32 PM
is the eating plan unhealthy or just the 2 days of fasting I thought the food was pretty balanced?

To me, it seems extremely restrictive. Personally, I fail when I go all or nothing. The second I decide I can't have something, it's all I want. And I obsess about it till I have it then BOOM! Off the wagon again.

Obviously I still have a long way to go this round, but I've done it before.

going2bskinny
04-04-2011, 11:50 PM
Today I ate pretty good for breakfast I had 1 egg and 3 whites with spinach onion tomato yellow and orange bell pepper and half a beef hot dog in it with pepper. Cooked with olive oil. And a blood orange.

then I didn't really eat for a long time cuz I was cleaning and later I had some immitation crab and cocktail sauce and a plum

then for dinner I just had a ak mak cracker with cream cheese on it red pepper spread, oven roasted turkey, bell pepper, purple onion, colby swiss lace cheese, tomato, spinach, and romain lettuce. With a dill pickle.

I counted up my calories for the day and I had just over 1200 calories does that sound like a healthy diet for the day?

going2bskinny
04-04-2011, 11:54 PM
To me, it seems extremely restrictive. Personally, I fail when I go all or nothing. The second I decide I can't have something, it's all I want. And I obsess about it till I have it then BOOM! Off the wagon again.

Obviously I still have a long way to go this round, but I've done it before.

yes I do that too but I really want to cut out bad sugars if I can and at least chips because I can't control myself with those. I might make a tortilla pizza sometime or I seen a recipe on here just today for a portabella mushroom pizza I could try. I just need to find healthier alternatives I think to those things. Anyone have any ideas? I suppose I should look into what people use for atkins diet maybe since I'm trying to restrict carbs as much as I can.

Anyone have any good alternatives for chips or pizza :D

Brooklynn
04-05-2011, 12:04 AM
well I was kind of wondering sense you have already lost 76lbs how did you do that? That is a big chunk of weight and if you did that in a healthy way why not keep on doing that? Of course with no binging. I feel that you have to eat in a way that works for you something that will make you feel full and still enable you to lose weight. Try and stay away for processed refined crap and eat more natural things. I find that I do better when I know what I cant have rather then thinking oh yeah I can eat just one piece of pizza and not go over my daily calorie limit. Doing the atkins diet to me is like weight loss for dummies ( I dont mean that in a bad way) I mean that it tells you, you can have this you cant have that, really no thought of if you can or cant. I do best when I know what I can have and what I cant and tend to stick to it. For example chips are a big NO NO for the time being so I dont even walk down that isle at the store there is no point.
I couldn't fast and never really understood it the three times I went with out food for an extended period was before my c sections and I felt horrible and then ate like a horse. but other then that I have no impute on them as I dont know much about them.

Brooklynn
04-05-2011, 12:10 AM
If you can still allow your self bread there are these things called flat outs they make a couple different kinds I know one is wheat. When I was just counting cals I used those to make pizza they are really good and work great for a crust. I only have the white ones at home because my kids like those but they are 140 cals 2g fat 24g carbs 3g fiber 8g protein. No trans fats. You can find your healthy topics and go from there to make a pizza. But as an Italian from a big fat Italian family I have to stay as far away from pizza as I can now. me and any Italian foods can no longer be friends. Which makes a family get together a pain!

going2bskinny
04-05-2011, 12:25 AM
lol Italian food is the death of me too. I made a tortilla pizza out of some spinach flour tortillas I got from trader joes once it was really good I might make that again sometimes since I still have a lot of the wraps left in the freezer until they are gone at least I really like the portabella mushroom idea though because thats no carbs just wonder if it still tastes good I'll have to try it sometime. Thanks for the idea :D :hug:

Oh to lose my weight I lost so far I did fast a lot or just eat very little and last summer I worked out like 2 hours a day outside I was doing really good but lately I've been on my butt can't wait for it to warm up outside again I will do more exercise then again.

shannonmb
04-05-2011, 06:39 AM
It sounds like maybe you have had a bump in the road lately because what you were doing to lose before wasn't necessarily sustainable. I don't know about everyone else, but I can lose weight doing just about anything really restrictive -- I have awesome willpower when I put my mind to it. But the problem is that at some point the willpower fades, then I'm left with not really knowing how to eat in a sustainable, balanced way, and I gain it all back *plus more*.

I have no opinion on the fasting (health-wise), but I will say that if you are not planning on fasting every weekend for the rest of your life, then why do it now? I have really come to view my way of eating now as practicing for maintenance. I may have to cut back a bit as I get closer to goal, but in general, the way I eat now will be the way I have to eat forever if I'm going to continue to lose, then keep the weight off. The greatest thing ever is that I have set myself up, through trial and error these last 10 months with an awesome diet that fully satisfies me.

The food you are talking about sounds good to me. I'm also one who has cut out most sugars and empty carbs, and that seems to keep the cravings at bay. But honestly, I think you could easily add a few hundred calories to your day and lose just as well if not better for the next at-least 80 lbs. Just think, eating plenty of calories of yummy, healthy food so you're never really hungry, and the scale just keeps moving on down. I'm not one to usually chime in on threads with "up your calories", but I definitely think you can afford to do it.

Use this time to really carve out a way of eating that you can sustain for a lifetime, and watch the pounds go down in the meantime. ;)

Brooklynn
04-05-2011, 09:45 AM
I agree with PP I dont think 1200 is really something you have to do at this point. For example at 212 my BMR was 1745 with a very active lifestyle it said to cut down to 1500 for extreme fat loss. Im sure thats not an exact number but the bigger you are the higher your BMR from what I understand and then you take 500 cals from that to start loosing. Of course you can do a few more but once you hit a stall then what will you do you sure cant cut them down much more it will leave you about starving and needing more nutriants. I think you should check out you BMR and go from that give it a little time and if its working then perfect if not make some changes.

going2bskinny
04-05-2011, 11:12 AM
okay guys thanks a lot, yeah my problem a lot is doing really good then blowing it over and over because I have been too strict so I guess I should take it easier. Then once I blow it, it takes me a while to get back into it and I waste a lot of time I could of been losing and gain some back, so I will listen to you all and skip the fasting and be a little more lenient on calories and just make my goal to maintain eating the right way without messing up. Thanks everybody I really appreciate the help and feedback :D :hug:

Missita
04-05-2011, 11:41 AM
Here's the way I look at it. You're not starting from scratch at all, are you? I mean, you've already lost weight, you've just hit a bump in the road. You're still leaps and bounds away from where you were when you began, so even if you're starting over, you're starting over in such a better position than you were in when you started. So don't think of this as a failure that you have to work really really really hard right away to get back on track. You're doing great, and you'll continue to do great! Cutting out a bajillion foods and fasting won't help you lose it all in a day, because that's impossible, so just take it slow! It's frustrating, but it'll be worth it in the end! :D

beerab
04-05-2011, 12:34 PM
The problem with the water fasting and juices and all that is you aren't losing just fat, you are losing muscle and other nutrients from your body.

At your weight you should eat 1800-2200 calories a day to lose. You are 299 lbs, that means your body needs around 2990 calories JUST to maintain it's weight. So if you cut down to 2000 calories that's almost a 1,000 calorie deficit a day. which translates to 2 lbs a week or 8 a month, and if you exercise you will probably lose even more than that. You might initally see a bit of a gain bringing up your calories but that's cuz your body will be hoarding- after a few days to a week that should settle down and your body should start to let go of fat once it sees you are eating more.

1200 is just too low- you don't want to get to a point where your body lives off of 1200 calories or less and anything above that causes you to gain.

Also- eat some whole eggs. They are nutritious and contrary to popular belief eggs don't cause you to have high cholesterol- eating a lot of fat does.

When I was 235 my eating was something like this:

Breakfast:
3 egg omelette with half a cup frozen spinach, 1 small tomato (diced) and 2 tbsp of onion and 1 oz of cheese with half a cup of salsa on top.

Lunch:
large salad with 2 cups romaine, half a tomato, 2 tbsp red onion, 2 tbsp ranch dressing, half an avocado, 4 oz of grilled chicken, another oz of cheese.

Dinner:
5 oz of grilled steak with 2 cups of vegetables such as grilled zucchini or asparagus or broccoli.

Snacks: hunk of cheese or cauliflower with some ranch dressing (1 cup and 1-2 tbsp).

I did eat a south beach type diet so I didn't have any bread or pasta or potatoes or fruit. But the point is I ate very well and still lost weight. Even now I'm in the 180s and I eat 1300 calories a day- more than you and I weigh 100 lbs less than you! I had my fat measurements taken before and after I lost around 30 lbs and the majority of loss what fat and the rest was a bit of water and very little of anything else.

Eating very little does not equal faster fat loss but it can equal loss of muscle and that's the LAST thing you want.

Good luck.

Sonjae
04-05-2011, 12:37 PM
I was just posting on another thread about potato chip cravings and here is a recipe for kale chips you can make at home really fast and they are tasty
Ingredients
1 bunch kale
1 tablespoon olive oil
1 teaspoon seasoned salt
Directions
1.Preheat an oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). Line a non insulated cookie sheet with parchment paper.
2.With a knife or kitchen shears carefully remove the leaves from the thick stems and tear into bite size pieces. Wash and thoroughly dry kale with a salad spinner. Drizzle kale with olive oil and sprinkle with seasoning salt.
3.Bake until the edges brown but are not burnt, 10 to 15 minutes.


I also just started a thread asking people to post their fav low cal snack and meal recipes. I just posted it so no posts yet but maybe some good ones will be on there. It's not about cutting everything out its about finding what foods you like in lower calorie recipes and smaller portions.

beerab
04-05-2011, 12:38 PM
Today I ate pretty good for breakfast I had 1 egg and 3 whites with spinach onion tomato yellow and orange bell pepper and half a beef hot dog in it with pepper. Cooked with olive oil. And a blood orange.

then I didn't really eat for a long time cuz I was cleaning and later I had some immitation crab and cocktail sauce and a plum

then for dinner I just had a ak mak cracker with cream cheese on it red pepper spread, oven roasted turkey, bell pepper, purple onion, colby swiss lace cheese, tomato, spinach, and romain lettuce. With a dill pickle.

I counted up my calories for the day and I had just over 1200 calories does that sound like a healthy diet for the day?

This isn't bad though I think you could have had a bit more for lunch- I think adding a salad would have made your lunch better.

going2bskinny
04-05-2011, 08:19 PM
wow cool thanks you guys for all the info :O

Thanks for the recipe Sonjae I'll look for your thread too for good snacks and meals sounds good! I have some faves I will post in there also :O

Thanks Missita for the nice message I don't really give myself any credit for how far I've come and I don't have support in this in real life so it gets really hard and I just lose without ever really feeling that good about it or getting compliments or celebrating what I've done so far. Thanks for the pep talk really needed it :D got to remember not to feel like a total failure when I mess up.

Thanks beerab wow you know a lot about calories thanks for sharing I have been kind of confused with that. I have just been eating for the weight I want to end up at. I would of normally had a bigger lunch yesterday but I was just so busy cleaning I didn't have much time. I will take it more easy I noticed when I obsess about cutting everything out and being so strict I usually blow it anyways (like if I have a 5 calorie piece of gum I feel horrible then) so I will just count my calories and not be so strict but remember to keep my meals healthy of course.

Thanks you guys you really helped :D