Weight Loss Support - It's Shocking What Missing Breakfast Can Do




niafabo
04-02-2011, 10:03 PM
well today i learned a valuable lesson, even if you are waiting on someone it is a terrible idea to miss breakfast. my sister didn't have to go in to work until 12pm so we had plans to go out for breakfast but she ended up being to tired to go and i didn't eat until 11am and when i did i eat i ended up eating 900 calories in one sitting and feeling very sick and sluggish afterwards and got horrible cravings all evening. ended the day eating about 1800 calories which is around maintance so i should be alright but i was just shocked how badly my body reacted to missing a meal. it's crazy to think before i started this journey i almost never ate breakfast. it certainly explains a lot. not going to let this happen again even if i just eat a piece of toast i will not go all morning without eating something!

has anyone else noticed their bodies can't take missing meals anymore?


berryblondeboys
04-02-2011, 10:33 PM
Actually now that my blood sugars are stable (I'm not in a sugar coma all the time), I can skip meals no problem. I don't get the shakes or get panicky about food. It's been kind of nice! 4 months ago the idea of going to get my blood work done while fasting was a doozy!

niafabo
04-02-2011, 11:11 PM
Actually now that my blood sugars are stable (I'm not in a sugar coma all the time), I can skip meals no problem. I don't get the shakes or get panicky about food. It's been kind of nice! 4 months ago the idea of going to get my blood work done while fasting was a doozy!

Strange. I've been on plan pretty much for nine months and I've never had problems with blood sugar before. Do you think that was the problem?


berryblondeboys
04-02-2011, 11:24 PM
I don't know. I know I had blood sugar issues and as soon as I dropped the carbs to a net below 100 I got a lot less needy for food right now.

But I think your body gets used to routines. So, if it's used to eating at 7 am, it's going to anticipate food. And will not be happy if you change up the routine. I thi k much of our feelings of hunger are habits. So, now you k ow for you.... Breakfast is important.

Arctic Mama
04-02-2011, 11:32 PM
I have no prediabetes but I am prone to hypoglycemia. Missing a meal gives me headaches and shaking, I feel nauseous. I also tend to binge and have the same issues you do. My blood sugar in tests is pretty picture perfect, and even during pregnancy I am nowhere near even elevated sugars (on a one hour test with the glucose drink my sugars are in the 70/80 range).

It can be an issue with diabetes, sure, but I know plenty of chemically healthy people who don't do well with skipping meals.

gagalu
04-03-2011, 03:07 AM
i'm perfectly fine with it. either way, i end up consuming the same amount. i guess i don't get freaked out over the thought that i may or may not eat when it's ideal for me.

JohnP
04-03-2011, 03:22 AM
i didn't eat until 11am and when i did i eat i ended up eating 900 calories in one sitting and feeling very sick and sluggish afterwards and got horrible cravings all evening. ended the day eating about 1800 calories which is around maintance so i should be alright but i was just shocked how badly my body reacted to missing a meal.

This is one reason why people who tend to skip breakfast tend to be heavier. In 2009 a group from the Imperial College in London hooked people up to functional MRIs to measure brain activity and found that when skipping breakfast participants brain “reward” centers were activated more by the sight of high-calorie than low-calorie foods. In otherwords, our brains are pushing us towards making a poor food choice when we miss a meal.

Once you ate that big meal at lunch you're not used to your cravings continued. Based on my own experience if you had eaten a smaller lunch you would have still had additional cravings but they would have been less.

This isn't to say skipping breakfast is bad because there is no specifc reason for adults who are not hypoglycemic to eat breakfast but there are plenty of reasons to not skip a meal we're accustomed to eating especially if it normally one of the larger ones we eat (like in your case you've previously said your breakfast is larger than your lunch.)

Disclaimer: I'm sure you know how I feel about breakfast since I haven't eaten before noon in over a year.

Horo
04-03-2011, 03:24 AM
Oh, yes- missing breakfast for me isn't fun. The first thing I do when I wake up is fix myself from breakfast, but when I don't, within an hour I get shaky and lightheaded and my vision will go black/I'll momentarily feel like I'm about to pass out several times(usually when I make any sort of sudden movement) until I eat.

JenMusic
04-03-2011, 08:58 AM
I was always a breakfast eater, but what's been shocking to me is realizing how what I eat for breakfast affects the rest of my food (or cravings) for the day.

If I eat my usual protein/fat heavy meal for breakfast - eggs/turkey bacon/thin slice of sharp cheddar with slice of whole grain bread, about 350 calories - I am good to go for the rest of the day. My sugar cravings are easy to fend off and I'm satisfied with my planned food.

Every once in a while I'll have a different breakfast. Either Nutri-grain waffles with PB, or a whole wheat tortilla with PB and a banana, or something sweetish like that. Even if the calories are the same, and the volume of food is about the same, I know that I will have to rein myself in a lot during the evening, when my sugar cravings come. This happens even if lunch and dinner are the same, the only difference is breakfast.

Kinda crazy how the body works, huh?

Katydid77
04-03-2011, 09:26 AM
I am not a breakfast eater at all, though every now and then I wake up hungry. If I do, it's for something substantial and I almost always eat eggs.

I will say that if I eat breakfast, it's the most important meal to make sure is protein heavy for me. If I start the day with carbs or sugary cereal, I am going to crave crap for the rest of the day.

Normally, I eat about 1pm the first time, and with IF I have been pushing that to 4pm. One thing I do notice now, is that recently I start to get genuine hunger pains right around 3:40pm. I can about set my watch by it. lol. I suppose because my body has gotten used to that time and knows it's getting time to eat.

I do have hot tea first thing in the morning though.

niafabo
04-03-2011, 09:30 AM
@Artic Mama that does sound very similiar and a lot of the symptoms on wikipedia fit. is there any way to know if that's the problem when something like that happens without using a blood sugar monitor?

@JohnP that also makes a lot of sense. i ended up eating two pieces of fried chicken thighs because they are high in protein and they aren't that bad calorie wise and then i made the mistake of getting almonds and those can get seriously calorie wise when you aren't careful. breakfast is my second biggest meal of the day and i don't usually eat until late in the afternoon after that so i guess my body could have just been freaking out because it didn't know what was going on.

@jenmusic i usually eat a very protein fat heavy breakfast too and that makes me good to go for the most of the day. one egg, a jennie o turkey sausage, and a piece of plain toast. i tried doing the carby thing with cereal or a thin sliced bagel in the morning and it did not keep me full at all.

walking2lose
04-03-2011, 09:32 AM
Actually now that my blood sugars are stable (I'm not in a sugar coma all the time), I can skip meals no problem. I don't get the shakes or get panicky about food. It's been kind of nice! 4 months ago the idea of going to get my blood work done while fasting was a doozy!

Berry, that's funny. I am EXACTLY the same way. I have been a lifelong breakfast eater, but I just don't eat it anymore, except on the weekends (but not right when I get up). I think the fat I put in my coffee (coconut milk or HWC or both) acts as a meal and fills me up.

Laneyy
04-03-2011, 11:10 AM
I skipped breakfast one day, before work, so I didn't even get a chance to take a break and have a snack, then one of my neighbors caught me outside and started talking to me for a good hour or so. Meanwhile I was getting dizzy/lightheaded and starting to see weird floaties in my vision...

Pretty scary, but now I listen to my body when it tells me to eat and I'm fine.

bellaella
04-03-2011, 12:11 PM
YES!! i cannot skip a meal.. ESPECIALLY breakfast. I find that when i skip a meal, by the time the next meal comes, i am STARVED. when i see the food, my brain just shuts off and i eat and eat and eat. and before i know it, ive eaten too much. i lose all self control because hunger just takes over

now i try to plan my day and have small meals available for me throughout the day. that way i dont get hungry and overeat.

hpnodat
04-03-2011, 02:46 PM
I despise eating breakfast but if I skip it it ruins my whole day. I typically eat a piece of toast with almond butter or an English muffin with almond butter. Yah, I know it's not interesting but I like it that way. ;)

CherryPie99
04-03-2011, 04:37 PM
I rarely ate breakfast before this weight loss journey. Now I don't have a lot - a bowl of cereal to the tune of 150 calories or so, but it sustains me until lunch.

A nutritionist told me this. If you are a typical person, you eat dinner at around 6PM. If you skip breakfast and then eat lunch at noon, you've gone 18 hours without eating! So your body says "Geez! I don't know when I'm going to eat again, so I'm going to hold onto fat as long as I can in case I don't get to eat for another 18 hours!" On the other hand, if you are spacing your meals out evenly, you body knows it will eat on a regular basis and is more willing to let go of fat.

JohnP
04-03-2011, 06:34 PM
A nutritionist told me this. If you are a typical person, you eat dinner at around 6PM. If you skip breakfast and then eat lunch at noon, you've gone 18 hours without eating! So your body says "Geez! I don't know when I'm going to eat again, so I'm going to hold onto fat as long as I can in case I don't get to eat for another 18 hours!" On the other hand, if you are spacing your meals out evenly, you body knows it will eat on a regular basis and is more willing to let go of fat.

Your nutritionist should consider a career in writing fairy tales ... that is a really good one! Giving a client simple rules to follow is a good idea - such as telling them to eat breakfast so they avoid binging and/or making poor food choices later in the day but telling your client things that are completely inaccurate just makes me :?::?::?:

Your body doesn't work that way. Energy needs will be met and that means mobilizing fat. It takes a whole lot longer than 18 hours to slow down the metabolism.

milmin2043
04-03-2011, 07:09 PM
Your nutritionist should consider a career in writing fairy tales ... that is a really good one! Giving a client simple rules to follow is a good idea - such as telling them to eat breakfast so they avoid binging and/or making poor food choices later in the day but telling your client things that are completely inaccurate just makes me :?::?::?:

Your body doesn't work that way. Energy needs will be met and that means mobilizing fat. It takes a whole lot longer than 18 hours to slow down the metabolism.

Bravo. Agreed. There are so many inaccurate things told to us by people who are supposed to be helping. All of the info. can be mind boggling and trying to sift through it all to find the good and the bad is so time-consuming. It seems a nutritionist should know that this is inaccurate info.

Nola Celeste
04-03-2011, 07:29 PM
I'm a definite convert to the wonders of a good breakfast, but it's got zilch to do with my metabolism. It has everything to do with recognizing signs of hunger and controlling my appetite. I still consider it a very important meal for me, but I don't think everyone needs to eat first thing in the morning to be successful at weight loss.

I hear the "metabolism" thing a lot, though. It's far more than just one nutritionist spreading that particular tale.

gagalu
04-03-2011, 08:06 PM
I rarely ate breakfast before this weight loss journey. Now I don't have a lot - a bowl of cereal to the tune of 150 calories or so, but it sustains me until lunch.

A nutritionist told me this. If you are a typical person, you eat dinner at around 6PM. If you skip breakfast and then eat lunch at noon, you've gone 18 hours without eating! So your body says "Geez! I don't know when I'm going to eat again, so I'm going to hold onto fat as long as I can in case I don't get to eat for another 18 hours!" On the other hand, if you are spacing your meals out evenly, you body knows it will eat on a regular basis and is more willing to let go of fat.

how could a nutritionist believe this?! jesus, their education must have blown.

Andrbeck
04-03-2011, 08:22 PM
I have had this happen to me a few times. If I don't eat within a few hours of waking up it throws my WHOLE day off.I feel lazy and sick all day

JohnP
04-03-2011, 09:06 PM
There are a zillion websites that say you need to eat breakfast for metabolic reasons. (http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=navclient&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=webhp&q=importance+of+breakfast+metabolism&aq=f&aqi=g-v1&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=dcf79db5820d0512) Some are even reputable.

They're all wrong - but that's conventional wisdom for you. :D

GlamourGirl827
04-03-2011, 11:01 PM
I'm not really hungry when I first get up, but I like to work out in the AM. I used to workout without eating, but now I have a cup of coffee and a yogurt. I find, for me, my workouts are much better and when I come home and make my real breakfast, I dont feel like I'm starving. I don't feel the need to over eat.

Resolute
04-04-2011, 02:19 AM
I rarely ate breakfast before this weight loss journey. Now I don't have a lot - a bowl of cereal to the tune of 150 calories or so, but it sustains me until lunch.

A nutritionist told me this. If you are a typical person, you eat dinner at around 6PM. If you skip breakfast and then eat lunch at noon, you've gone 18 hours without eating! So your body says "Geez! I don't know when I'm going to eat again, so I'm going to hold onto fat as long as I can in case I don't get to eat for another 18 hours!" On the other hand, if you are spacing your meals out evenly, you body knows it will eat on a regular basis and is more willing to let go of fat.

I was told for years how i should be eating, i fought against my natural tendancies because i needed to conform to someone else, i failed, the realization came to me in no uncertain terms, it doesn't matter one iota when you consume your calories, your body needs x amount to function depending on BMR and activities, whether you eat when you wake or when you go to bed - zero difference.
It's like someone turned a light on, i went from listening to the experts and being 400 lbs to listening to my body and being 230, i eat late every night, i hate breakfast and can't be bothered with it... Explain that to me ? My evening bingeing vanished when i fulfilled myself with my meal during the time i crave food.

Everyone is different, your nutrituionist is an imbecile to try and change you, he/she needs to find what you need on a personal level and help you tailor it to fit your life... period.

Brooklynn
04-04-2011, 06:55 AM
I thought my issue was my sugar to and I guess it is in a way, but before I started this I would feel like that not eating and then load on the carbs and feel great (if you can call it that). I think its not so much to do with any sugar issues just the fact that my body wanted them and I felt like crap with out them.
Once I started on atkins I felt that way for a couple days and then it started to go away and I realized its not because I need sugar or carbs to live its because my body wants its easy form of energy and when it doesnt get it I feel like crap. Now that I have forced my body to use fat and not refined sugar and starches it knows it can do it another way and I just feel hungry when I dont eat.

MonicaM
04-04-2011, 07:29 AM
If I do not eat within 45 minutes or so of waking, I start to get nauseus. I have light wheat toast with egg, low-fat cheese, peanut butter or almond butter around 6:00; a piece of fruit and cottage cheese, a small yogurt or peanut butter around 9:30 and lunch around 12:30. On the few occasions I have left the house without eating, I have gone the way of muffins/doughnuts/coffee cake, etc.

FatJayne
04-04-2011, 10:21 AM
The same thing happens to me, and I also used to NEVER eat breakfast. I keep a pack of slimfast (190 cal a can) in my fridge for moments like these. I am a full-time college student so missing breakfast, or not having time for it happens a lot for me. On Mondays and Wednesdays I'm in class from 8am to 2 pm and a slimfast does the trick if I dont have the time for real breakfast so that I dont raid the vending machines at school!

Brooklynn
04-04-2011, 10:40 AM
The same thing happens to me, and I also used to NEVER eat breakfast. I keep a pack of slimfast (190 cal a can) in my fridge for moments like these. I am a full-time college student so missing breakfast, or not having time for it happens a lot for me. On Mondays and Wednesdays I'm in class from 8am to 2 pm and a slimfast does the trick if I dont have the time for real breakfast so that I dont raid the vending machines at school!

I am also in school full time and I have found it best to wake up earlier and eat a good breakfast to get my mind going for the day. I tried slim fast back in the day but it never seemed to last long enough. On the days I got to school around lunch time I try to either pack a bunch of veggies to eat in class or eat a good meal a bit earlier it helps me stay full and keep my brain going for the day lol.

midwife
04-04-2011, 10:47 AM
Yup, breakfast is super-essential for me, too! I'm glad you're figuring out what works for you.

Katydid77
04-04-2011, 12:27 PM
I always find it interesting to read that people get nauseous/light headed by missing a meal, and it's usually breakfast they are talking about.

I wonder what causes that?

Honestly, I don't ever get light headed or dizzy from missing a meal. I get hungry and if I don't eat, I get hungrier. LOL.

Do you think it's a sugar low or something? Is it something like carb cravings?

I am trying to think of explanations for it. Obviously we have plenty of stored energy in our bodies where missing a meal is not really a big deal in the scheme of things, and that seems like a dramatic way for our bodies to respond to it.

Like, out of balance to the relatively inconsequential concept of missing one meal.

Now, I do get caffeine headaches if I don't have caffeine but I know that is more of an addiction. And if I eat a lot of sugar, I get a real 'sugar rush' where I'm shaky and my thoughts can get a bit foggy. It actually feels like I took speed or something.

niafabo
04-04-2011, 02:01 PM
It's just breakfast I have a problem with and not other meals really. I will get light headed and cranky if I skip lunch or dinner but it doesn't result in sickness or issues with eating later on. Not sure what causes it. I don't eat that much sugar and I usually keep my carbs pretty low.

To be honest I find it more strange that not eating when your body is expecting it wouldn't cause a physical reaction for some people. Your body naturally wants to hold on to as much fat as possible and it is designed with safe guards to keep you from tapping into its "savings." If it didn't our species would not have survived during hard times.

JohnP
04-04-2011, 02:46 PM
Your body naturally wants to hold on to as much fat as possible and it is designed with safe guards to keep you from tapping into its "savings." If it didn't our species would not have survived during hard times.

This is not quite right. The safe guards you mention are pretty minor. Our bodies defense against starvation amount to decreasing our base metabolism by a small percentage and making us feel tired so we will sit around more. Our body has absolutely no problem at all tapping into it's savings. "Stubborn fat" ceases to be stubborn and muscle is automatically catabolized in true starvation conditions. With a few minerals and water humans can survive for long periods without food specifcally because we can so easily tap into our savings.

The real issue is that our bodies are extremely efficient at digestion and storage of excess energy with no safeguards against getting fat. Most animals have safeguards against becoming too fat because they evolved that way. A fat deer won't live very long for example.

Couple this with modern society where food is abundant and society is sedentary and you have millions and millions of fat people.

niafabo
04-04-2011, 02:55 PM
This is not quite right. The safe guards you mention are pretty minor. Our bodies defense against starvation amount to decreasing our base metabolism by a small percentage and making us feel tired so we will sit around more. Our body has absolutely no problem at all tapping into it's savings. "Stubborn fat" ceases to be stubborn and muscle is automatically catabolized in true starvation conditions. With a few minerals and water humans can survive for long periods without food specifcally because we can so easily tap into our savings.

Your body can survive without eating for long periods of time but that doesn't mean you don't feel it. I've had a few times in my life where we were too broke to have food and we lived off of one top ramen a day and I can tell you it is very painful to be in starvation mode. The pain dulls after the first few days but it is in no way a easy going experience and doing anything feels like an uphill battle. I would never in my life wanna have to experience it again which probably part of the reason I stayed fat for so long.