Support Groups - Losing Floozies, are you out there?

02-03-2001, 02:23 PM
Floozies, are you there? I haven't seen an answer to the string in many days and I don't see any new strings either. Miss you! Deb

02-08-2001, 11:42 PM
Deb, Susan & Linda,

My computer was in the shop. It's back, and so is lots of homework. I have the day off, and will try to catch up. But I always have time for you. I have to get back in the swing of things, eating and excercise "wise".

Update on school... Our professor changed our research questions for a 3rd time. We have to hurry and submit our work or we won't graduate. Nice, huh?

Update on guys...I'm working on it.

Update on job...My employer essentially broke the law by telling me that even though I'm full time HR, the company cuts back retail staffing hours to an all time low after the holiday season, and he won't be able to pay me to do my office work outside of the hours I am scheduled to assist in other areas of the store. The way I look at it is this...I'm getting paid to learn, will hopefully get a new job title, and move on. My company's name carries a lot of weight on a resume'. It's like working for Disney. I'm looking to commit for 1 year. I can't afford my salary, but I think better things will come out of it. They have accommmodated my scheduling needs very generously. Right now, that is important.


02-12-2001, 02:14 PM
So good to hear from you again! I want very much to answer your post but I don't have time to write tonight but I want you to know I am here, and I got your message and I will respond very soon. Deb

02-13-2001, 04:51 AM
Hi, I'm back. YOur school sounds very frustrating, and as for your job, well the money may not be there right now, but if you can survive the year, someday you may look back and see it as a stepping stone to something much more lucrative. In the meantime, learn all that you can. You may not get monetary compensation, but the intangible things like exposure, contacts, networking,wide experience, etc can still be milked.

As for me, I need to get on the diet track too. Since Christmas it has been very hard and often unsuccessful. Funny how when I find the inner strength and am able to change my eating habits, it feels like my ability to do so will last forever. But a few weeks later, I fall off the wagon, and then it is hard to remember how I was ever able to eat right. It is like there are two people inside me at the same time, a hopeful striving one, and a weak one that gives up easily. I am still trying to puzzle it out.

The most hopeful thing in the works is that a job has come open that is identical to a job I performed for 5 years back at UC Davis. I think I have an excellent chance of getting an interview and a good chance of landing the job. I will know in March.

The only other thing is that planting time will be soon, I am sending away for the seeds tonight, and we are getting soil samples done in the next week or two. We will be breaking ground in the next month. It is all hard work but a lot of fun too. Until next time. Debbie

02-19-2001, 01:04 PM
Hi everyone!

Debbie, thanks for the encouragement. I've lost 7 pounds. That's over 10% of my weight loss goal.

Will update later.

02-19-2001, 01:58 PM

That is great news. Debbie

02-20-2001, 03:18 AM
Greetings from the thyroid bunny,

I had some blood work a couple of weeks ago to check previous "borderline" thyroid results last year. Guess what. The reading was off the charts. Normal range is 3.5-5.5. Mine was 62.5. Just a little over active, wouldn't you say? The bottom line is that thyroid problems create serious cholesterol issues. I was in the doctor's office to pick up some medication when I was given the news. She's very nice. I have an ear infection. When I told her I didn't have a prescription plan right now, she told me to go to the office for free anti biotics.

Anyhoo0000, I was given a prescription for thyroid meds. I said that I really needed to see a specialist for something like this, but they said to use the medicine, have another blood test. If that didn't work, then, go see a specialist. I told them that I thought my thyroid was actually going back and forth from one extreme to another.

I told the receptionist that I was really sensitive to meds other than anti biotics, and I wanted the lowest dosage possible. I called the pharmacist to price out the meds and get some feedback about side effects. He said this stuff was to make the thyroid work harder. I'll tell you, I'm about to shop around for another doctor, but I think they're all about the same. Now, I'm waiting for the office to call me.


02-22-2001, 02:49 AM
Yikes! What next? Well, that makes two of us. You are the bunny, I am the sloth. My thyroid gave up the ghost 5 years ago. I started having to sleep every couple of hours, couldn't think straight. Now I am also on medication to speed me up as you are on meds to slow you down (you hope). I hope you get a straight explanation from your doctor. I know that when they test my blood to see how my thyroid is doing, they don't test the thyroid directly. Instead, they test for another hormone - TSH. If my thyroid is not releasing enough hormone, my TSH level will keep getting higher and higher to try to stimulate the thyroid into action. Could that be what they were testing for?

I hate to give you something else to worry about, but recently I got my thyroid meds increased and my doctor said that when the thyroid is too high calcium gets removed from the bones more than usual, so osteoporosis may eventually become a risk. But he said it ws okay just as long as I made sure I took my calcium supplements. If I keep alot of calcium circulating around in my blood from what I eat, my body will lay off the bones.
I hope you are able to get your prescriptions without too much sacrifice. I have found that thyroid medication is not very expensive, (although I do have a prescription plan).

Hope everything else is going well by you. Here is quiet. Waiting for the application deadline for that job I applied for to see if I get an interview. We spent Sunday tearing the siding off a small shed on the property to turn into a greenhouse. A lot of whacking things with a big hammer. What fun! Great exercise! Great way to relieve stress and work out frustrations. Sort of like Tae Bo for construction workers.

Hope eveything works out okay. Deb

02-22-2001, 08:47 AM
Girls I am BACK. Oh boy did I miss you guys. My puter was down, and having a hard time with ISP then phone lines, as well as crazy hours for work. I had to fire my office manager in jan and have trained a great new one and am very happy. Thing are moving.

Silky I feel for you having to keep changing your work like thatfor school, and the job well like you said a stepping stone. Then 7 lbs great going.

I have managed to gain I am getting back OP and have started to go down from the holidays.

Deb leave it to you to keep us going thanks I was hoping that we did not get lost in the shuffel. It sounds like you have been busy.all the planting and stuff. good luck on the job and for now take advantage of your time.

any body hear from linda??

well got to go and pick the kids up from the Y

Thanks again for all of you and for your support. Sue

02-22-2001, 03:05 PM
Yippee! Yay! Yee Haa! We are almost all back! It is after midnight now so I will write tomorrow (today). Deb

02-23-2001, 02:00 PM
Youch! My back went out this morning. (It does that sometimes.) I can't sit at the computer to write so will try again tomorrow. Deb

02-26-2001, 08:00 PM

Deb, hope your back is better soon!

Thank you all for your well wishes. I've been working out health issues forever, it seems. I really appreciate the business about the calcium loss. I have to take calcium supplements because I'm lactose intolerant anyway. I have degenerative bone disease that is already evident in my MRI taken this past September. Some of the bone disorder is just part of the aging process. The other is a result of having Rhumatic Fever a few years ago. If it's not one thing, it's another.

I have to sit down with my director at work on a continual basis and clarify my job. The fact of the matter is my boss doesn't really understand what some of his legal responsibilities are. He actually asked me to do my HR work unpaid. I'm an hourly employee. That's illegal. So, I wasn't doing my work. Instead, I was supporting another department, and doing their work because that's what my employer thinks needs to be done. That presented more HR problems. Then, yesterday, by some miracle, we had enough people to handle the store traffic for me to spend the majority of my time in HR, getting my work done. But it's not enough. So I'm back to the drawing board. By the way, do you remember when I first took this job, I recruited and retained enough employees through the holiday season for the store to meet it's yearly fiscal goals 37 days early? Well, we went from the 2nd worst store to the 2nd best store in the region. Voila! Corporate changed us back to our previous region, new distric manager, etc. I met the new district manager on Friday. My boss told him about my accomplishments. The DM remarked that he was very pleased and interested in hearing about successful holiday season recruitment and was glad to have me on board.
What did I expect him to say? Maybe he would allow me to expand my role? The more I do, the better it looks on my resume.

Anyway, more news to follow.

03-02-2001, 11:59 PM

I went to the orthopedist for a second opinion. There's nothing that can be done for the injuries from my accident at work almost 2 years ago.

He said lots of exercise.
Well, okey dokey.


03-03-2001, 01:52 AM
Hi everyone, my back is better. Sorry about your injury, Silky. Chronic injuries are so frustrating. Having to live with it and work arund it and maybe be limited by it year after year. That is one thing about growing older that I was not prepared for. A lot of small to medium conditions / injuries build up over the years. Some come and go; others come and stay. So they just build up in number as years go by. For me it has been frustrating, as it often involves inflammation and my joints or tendons. When I was young, I was very active, but as I have aged, I have had to drop one after another of the things I used to enjoy. Now it's down to walking, when my heel clears up. (The pain came back after the shot; now it is physical therapy.)

You had to educate your boss about labor law! You should be the boss. In the business section of our local paper they run a column where employers can submit questions about HR issues and have the columnist answer them. Some of the ignorance out there about the most basic labor laws like wagers / hours, etc., makes my jaw drop! I think "However have these employers managed to survive without being sued out of business in the first year?"

I am glad that you are assertive about telling management about your accomplishments. I have often made the mistake of not doing so. Even the hardest working, most productive employee can become invisible. I hope it ultimately leads to a promotion (if you want to stay in the organization).

Out here, there are good things and bad things. The good thing - I submitted a complicated job application for that job that was a carbon copy of a former job I had performed for 5 years. I am crossing every finger, and toe I own. I am almost certain to get an interview, and then?

The bad thing is that I am having real problems getting my eating under control. I have gained back 5 lbs and am now at 160. So depressing. I want very much to be as thin as possible for that interview. I think being thinner will make me look younger, and looking younger has become an issue for me lately. I have not gotten a number of jobs I interviewed for lately. Granted I wasn't the best candidate for every job, but it makes me nervous that the people who did finally get the jobs were all much younger than myself. I never thought much about age discrimination until this year. In fact, although I don't dye the gray out of my hair and I wanted to gracefully go gray when my time came, I am going to get rid of the gray if I get an interview for this job.

Yesterday I was able to accomplish one goal - I didn't eat even one of the cookies that we keep in the house for my husband to snack on. I ate other junk, but no cookie. That shows you how bad it has gotten when abstaining from a cookie is a big victory. Well, I will take my successes where I can find them. Today's goal is to write down everything I eat. Let's hope I can turn this around in time to have some effect on the interview.

Got to go now and get ready for teaching. Good luck to everybody. Debbie

03-09-2001, 11:07 AM
Help. I'm not used to this new format. Thankfully, I kept my user name and password.

Let's not worry about our weight this week. Let's not worry about ANYTHING this week.

I read an article that addressed the need to rethink diet and health. Instead of looking at dieting as a food issue or exercise as a fitness issue...think of ourselves like athletes in training. The article said to rethink ourselves. Now that the orthopedist said there's little to be done except get lots of exercise, I'm getting myself in shape to be a dancer. I love dance, but I can just move to music until my body gets stronger. I'll use the aqua therapy and strength building exercise as a way of "getting in training".

I know I need all the support our group gives me. Weight loss is complicated. It's not a goal, it's a process.


03-10-2001, 04:50 PM
Oh boy I tried to get on last week and it was down. I have been putting in long hours and having a hard time getting to the puter at any time other than full exhaustion. so i do not read or post i usually just go to bed. it sounds like we are holding our own. Deb I to have gained some of what i had lost and am finding it hart to get back on the wagon. I have been trying though and have keept the damage down to a minimum.

I did read some thing that I really like. it goes something like this. are we ready to take control of our lives? if not then we just have to sit back and suffer the consequences. It has some really good points on our jpoourney to weight loss. I need to regain the control that i had. I felt good and in control of my own destiny at that time and i liked it. I need to do that now.

So deb go the that interview with the idea that you are in control of your destiny because you are. and i am sure that you will get it. Good luck call and ask when the interviewing willl be and that will get your name back up on their minds.

Silky I too need the support that we all give eachother here that is the reason that i have failed so badly these last months, i have not had the time to get here but i must make it a priority as i am failing in that area. I do recieve such support and friendship here. I just want to thank all of you girls for being there for me and keeping your faith. thanks

03-11-2001, 02:26 AM
Sue, I agree with you 100%. Deb will succeed brilliantly. I am confident in your ability. Be your wonderful self.

By the way, Sue, I love your new quote. I have one for you all. Live well. It's the best revenge. Well, I weighed myself today and I gained back some of the weight I lost. I should have known. Instead of taking better care of myself, I started eating late at night, which ALWAYS adds pounds to my frame. I've been eating out. Lots of sodium there, i.e. water retention.

THAT'S IT LADIES! I knocked myself out to get all but one assignment handed in to my professor. I have another class that ends in May. If I can hand in anything in advance in that class, I will. What's this all about? Making more time for myself. I have to get the therapy and exercise, eat right and nurture myself PRONTO!

You know, I have not applied myself to something that is truly important...not really. I've worked on taking better care of myself in spurts. Now it's time to move forward... sort of like having a long term relationship with myslef. I'm so glad I have you to share this with. I know you understand.


03-17-2001, 03:13 AM
Hi, Hi.

I've been working on my thesis since last September. My project partner and I had our research questions changed by our professor one month before the presentation. After the presentation, he changed the questions again. It took us a few weeks, but we finally completed the paper for a third time. My partner said that he was going to submit it to the professor. Never heard from him again. I've e-mailed him several times. No response. I thought something happened to him. Perhaps he had a setback. He's not the most mature person in the world. He's single, 48, lives with his mother. Now, I may have to re-do the project myself. When I started the course, our class was told that it's best to work with other people. I wonder. Three people in our group did their projects solo. Two managed okay, the 3rd was roasted by his professor. I wish this were behind me already.

Thanks for being there.

03-18-2001, 12:20 PM
Oh silky Some day this will be behind you. I do not know what to tell you about this other person. I know that it is so hard to really get the other person to do what you want and to have it done by the time you want it done unless the person is really responsible. I have a hard time remembering that too. If you keep calling and emailing your partner you should get a responce.

Deb I have been thinking of you. did you get the interview? I hope things went well. I too am seeing more and more gray in my hair. I have been threatening to color my head too. but i am afraid of the damage to my hair, as I always by the cheep ones as I hate to spend money.

As for my diet I have fallen back to my old ways and have gone up to over 200 again a number i had hoped to never see again. I am going to get back on the low carb diet and really stick to it. I feel like cra* and am sleeping much more and have no energy and am tired in the day time. I do know that eating that way does have it's toll on me like my hair fall out so i may have to modify it and do the calp or something like that.

Work has been rather fast paced lately. and I am trying to catch up it is hard but I am getting there. I have been putting my foot down at times saying I will not do some things and it has been feeling good to do that.

03-19-2001, 08:25 AM

You sound like you're not feeling well. Could be responsible for your symptoms. Hope you're feeling better soon. I feel like cra* too. I just started the thyroid medication... taking the smallest possible dose...the side affects are nasty. I may not be a candidate for it. I want to give my body a chance to acclamate itself. If that doesn't happen in a week, I'm calling the doctor.

My weight jumped up out of the blue this week. Yikes!I've even been exercising a lot more. I feel more energetic. It must be eating late dinners. (Late for me anyway)


What's going on with your life? Any new job leads? Interviews? I want all the best for you.


P.S. My thesis professor said he'd contact the Dean. She's supposed to call my partner and get a handle on the project. If they don't get any satisfaction, they'll make a decision about how I will hand in the paper. I've done everything I can do. Now it's their turn. The ball is in their court.

03-25-2001, 01:24 AM
Hi Deb, Hi Sue,

Got a 1 line e-mail from thesis partner about he and his computer are fine. La di da!

Have been chatting with a few men through religious newspaper. One in particular has a voice that would melt steel. Who's to say if we have a future together, but I love hearing him talk.

Thyroid medication is raising my blood pressure...told my doc...she said keep taking it for 6 weeks, then have follow up tests. I'm shopping around for another MD.

Getting more fit little by little.


04-13-2001, 09:47 PM
Hi guys I am back my puter has not been acting right and not being able to stay online so I got road runner. I am excited I can get anywhere and not have to wait forever It is fun. I just got it today that makes it almost a month that I have not been on line!!! I have unfortunatly gained 20 lbs. I am very upset with my self but have gotten back on board since monday I have not lost anything but I feel better.

04-14-2001, 04:53 PM

HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY WEEKEND! We'll get healthy and on track. Don't worry.
Just enjoy.

Here's the dirt.

The paper was forwarded to the mentor, the Dean and "2nd reader" (also a Ph.D.). We haven't received a grade as of yet. My partner eventually e:mailed me to apologize for not keeping in touch, failing to send the paper, etc. Our mentor moved permanently from New Jersey to Florida. It really doesn't matter when the courses are all on the computer except for the residencies. He can fly to NJ for those. This teacher has such a high standing with the school that they practically kiss the ground he walks on.

My other 2 classes are almost completed. One is Ethics, the other is a leadership course on learning organizations.
Had three dates...

1) Joel - short, balding, overweight, sexually deprived. We talked, e:mailed, met at a restaurant (geographically central to us. Treated me to an early dinner. Refused to let me pay my own meal. Somehow, he mentioned in his discussion of his previous girlfriends / dates, that a woman told him she could orgasm in 10 seconds, but he didn't believe her. Why he thought that I would be interested in knowing this is beyond me. The physical aspects of a relationship surfaced. I SWEAR THIS IS THE FIRST TIME A GUY HAS TALKED ABOUT USING VIAGRA. I felt queesy. Almost choked on my veggie burger. He walked me to my car and asked for a "kissy". Ugh. I saw him leaning in for a kiss and I turned my face so that our lips would not connect. Got in my car as quickly as possible. He called back once, but I haven't heard from him since.

2) Michael - 10 years my senior, recent hair transplant, self absorbed. Met at a Barnes and Noble "Starbucks" about 45 minutes after dinner with Joel. We also talked by phone and e:mailed. He bought me a coffee. We sat down. He spent the next hour talking about himself in the military (which he served ONLY 2 years), his current and past work situations and what he hated about them, his two daughters. I told him I had to go. He gave me his home phone, work phone, pager and cell phone. Then he walked me to the door of the store, turns to me and said that he wasn't going to walk me to my car because he wanted to hang out and look at the books.

3) Yossi - Manipulative, controlling, just plain horny. Met at a Macaroni Grille. For those of you who may not have one in your area, it's sort of like an Italian Fridays. We talked about our work, kids, stuff. He tried to get me to edit his resume', but I played dumb. I didn't like the fact that he said he covered his work history by putting something misleading for prospective employers. We took a walk in a mall nearby, found a bench to chat for a while. He seemed very effeminate to me, even though he kept reaching over to stroke my hand and touch me. I told him I had to go home. On my way to the car, I told him that I keep it messy on purpose so no one will think of stealing it. Haven't heard from him since. Yeah!

I've also talked to some guys over the phone. One was 15 years older than me. He keeps sending me these e:mails with political overtones. He doesn't seem to know how to connect on a personal level. I don't respond to him anymore. Another guy contacted me. We talked by phone. We've never met. That's okay by me. He doesn't sound like a happy camper.

Thyroid meds:
My blood pressure peaks a few hours after I take my pill. I went off synthroids for a couple days as per Dr.;s orders. Discovered my resting heart rate was 90 beats p/minute. Cut out almost all salt from my diet. Went back on the meds. Now when my blood pressure peaks, it's lower than before.

Weight / Exercise:
I have to eat before taking meds. I take them at night because they upset my stomach sometimes. I can't be indisposed in the bathroom at work because I'm in retail. There are coverage issues, etc. I end up eating at night and retaining weight. I have to figure out how to get in exercise that doesn't raise my blood pressure and helps me manage my weight loss.

I need your help and encouragement.
Best regards,
Love, Silky

04-14-2001, 11:23 PM
Hey silky it sounds like the man thing is not going too good right now. I am sorry it does help at times to have one in your life but at others it sure is a hinderance. I am glad that the peper finally got out now we are waiting for the jury to come in. My fingers are crossed! and it seems like you are keeping control over the thyriod thing. All in all I think you are really together. Good job! Well the eating and exercise thing we have to work on that but i am sure something will come around. I too am falling back on the exercise but with the nice weater here I find that i am looking forward to some exercise :eek: Atleast the thought is there where last week it had not even crossed my mink :rolleyes:

04-15-2001, 11:14 PM

I'm going to exercise NOW! Ten, nine, eight...


04-16-2001, 08:08 PM
Silky you are a riot. I am glad we are up and running again. I nibbled a bit today and am trying really hard not to eat the cake that is sitting on the counter. I think that writing will keep things going on the right tract. the only problem is when I need the support and writing the most it is time to be caring for the kiddies and that is hard to spend the time on the puter. Oh well the house and kids can wait. I had a good day today with work. I some times love what I do and today is one fo them.

04-16-2001, 10:15 PM

You're a riot too. goes. I met another guy...for tea. Very nice...not in the romantic the "down to earth" department.

I'm looking for someone with a great sense of humor. I'm not sure if that was evident with the guy I met today. We have a lot in common... religion, basic age range, you get the idea. I'd have to get to know him better. Actually, that's one of the problems, getting to know a guy better. If I did that, it would take a while. Men that I meet want marriage or a long term relationship (like marriage). I don't go out with guys who are looking for trouble. Ladies, let's be frank. I REALLY want to know a guy before I can feel comfortable kissing him. Since I've been divorced since 1992, I feel a strong urge to merge, if you know what I mean. Kissing is a really important part of a relationship to me. I want it to be fun, not disgusting.

While I'm on the subject of guys...the one that's 15 years my senior keeps sending me these harmless but annoying e-mails. I finally replied to one by asking him why he doesn't connect with me directly -- like asking me how I'm doing instead of sending me surveys. I also received an e-mail from the one I met at the Macaroni Grille. He asked me how my holiday was. I told him. Didn't miss a beat. Asked me if I wanted to go out with him agian.


By the way, my Thesis project was graded and my professor never told me. I found out today when I called the Dean to find out when this semester ends. I'm taking two electives to complete my degree. In one class, we had to hand in a final project as a group. I was allowed to work in both groups. One group cooperated with each other. The other group splintered. We had a couple of confrontational individuals in the second group. Very ugly. I can't imagine how educated people can behave this way. If this happened at work, they might have been disciplined. One gal worked for a community college. She sabotaged the project several times. The paper was handed in despite her. I feel sorry for her co-workers.

Anyway, in the other class, the professor was supposed to give us the final project requirements, but never did. I wasn't sure when the course ended...if there was time to work on a final project in his class. We'll see.

Well, after all that, I didn't get to exercise last night as I had hoped. My blood pressure is fluctuating. I take it often to know how I'm doing. Exercise can make it go higher.


04-17-2001, 07:33 PM
Ok Ok OK lets get out with it I can not hold back the suspence any more what did you get on your thesis???

as for the now guy that is the best way to meet them get to know them better berfore you find out they are jerks. Yes kissing is very important it helps wit the bonding! and for those others just plain and simple tell then that there was not a spark in the relationship on your side and that it would not be sensible to try to continue with the relationship, as you are nmot able to provide the recipical feeling back. (easier said that done right?) I know I would not be able to do that. but isd the right thing to do.

Speaking of the right thing. in March we had to fire out on-call person who is 75 years old. She just was not capable of soing the job correctly and was not capable of learning. She had made some major mess ups. I told my office manager that She should just tell her that we eliminated the position. because I could not tell her that she was too senile to be able to do the job, I also knew that it would break her heart. From another job she tried and came in the office in tears thinking that she was no good for anything, and that is why my office manager at the time hired her for that job. soo any way as the story goes when the lady walked in my OM told her the job was eliminated, as we were not producing enough work to maintain the position. well a few days later she came in the office with the help wanted add and (she lived 35 miles away and I thought that she would be getting her local paper not ours.) And told us how dissapionted she was in us girls that we lied and we should have just told her she was too old for the job! Boy did I feel like s schmuck!!!! I did not want to hurt her feeling and thought that I was letting her down gently and hoping that she would never find out well I was wrong!!!!

so lesson learned Tell the truth no matter how hard or it will come back and bite you in the butt harder!!!!

It sounds like the classes you are taking are really wierd. Good luck straightening them out ;)