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mauvaisroux
11-17-2002, 07:19 PM
Evening everyone! :wave:

Wow! Sounds like everyone had a busy weekend and that some of you have got a lot of Christmas shopping done already:)

My clothing party was great! We had a lot of fun and I ended up buyin a skirt and two tops made out of a stretchy fabric that will be great for traveling.

Dance class was a blast! We are working on a routine that we may perform at a show in April.

On the dairy issue- I don't think I could give that up easily either. I love cheese and milk.

Well, I am off to have a nice relaxing bath. DH is at a friend's place so I have the house to myself for a few hours.

Have a great week!


aleka
11-18-2002, 08:47 AM
Did any of you get that storm over the weekend? We were very lucky that we didn't get the icing that everybody else seemed to have gotten. We had about 1" of snow before it turned to sleet, then it seemed to be all rain. Everything is slushy outside now. I hear some people might be without power until Wed.:yikes: Our's never even hiccupped.

Suzanne has a new Quick & Easy cookbook (my kind of cooking) ;)
I've preordered it on Amazon. I should be getting it the week of Dec. 10th.

mauvaisroux, glad you had a good clothing party. I love buying new clothes! Hope you had a nice relaxing evening while your DH was at a friend's house.

nikki, I was watching HSN yesterday. Colleen was selling vitamins by Andrew Lessmen, and I noticed her diamond ring. While I was watching, they never did a closeup of her hand, but I did notice it was big.

Hi ANNE, Sue, & Jennifer.

Hope you all had a good weekend.

Aleka

SuGeorgia
11-18-2002, 09:08 AM
Hello Ladies!

I'm stilling :) as I did have a small loss this week, but any loss is a very good loss as far as I am concerned. I'm wearing my closet 'ghosts' now, including one sweater that I wondered why on earth I bought as it was MUCH too small :D

Nikkic- It is so exciting about the plastic surgery! I'd love to have that done, as well as some other things. I think I just miss the medically needed category though. So, everytime I walk through a bookstore, I research costs!

Aleka- After you and Nikkic talked about it, I had to look through ALL the technibond jewelery!!! Major drool now. I'll have to spend some reward $ on that!

Jennifer, Let us know how the grill works out. It sounds yummy. I've gotten in a rut of just using the crock pot because I don't have to babysit my meats. The grill idea might be a winner!

Anne, I love nuts as a snack too. I have to control them like you do, or they'd be all I eat. I tried to make that a reality last night!! :)

Mauvaisroux- The clothing party and the belly dancing all sound like a lot of fun. I hope you're enjoying the clothes.

Well, take care all! Su


ANNE D
11-18-2002, 12:33 PM
Hi Everyone!::wave:
Boy, did we get nailed here in Toronto with the snow storm!!!
Somehow I don't beleive we are going to have the mild weather
that the forcasters are predictiing.
Aleka: I also have preordered Suzannes new book!!
Su, Nikkic and Aleka: we all love jewellery. I have quite a
collection of Joan River's tennis bracelets!! I just love them.
I also am collecting some of her faux pearl necklaces.

I did get weighed on the weekend and I am down to 235. Which
was a two pound loss from lasts time and a 35 pound total from
when I began low carbing in the summer.

Su, I have to tell you I made a pig of myself on the nuts last night.
I am wondering if they are going to be a "red light" food for me:o

Hope everyone has a great day.
Anne.

mauvaisroux
11-18-2002, 02:40 PM
I just bought her other two books last Friday. I am loving them. I made a level two recipe for whole wheat pancakes and they turned out way better than I expected! they were delicious! I have been craving pancakes for a couple of weeks and they did the trick!

Will the new book be available in bookstores? and if so when?

The only ones I don't have are the contest cookbook and the dessert book. I can't find the contest one and I'm in no hurry to get the dessert one though it is available-I'm not really one for sweets.

Have a great day everyone:wave:

Ever notice that stressed is desserts spelled backwards? :chin: :lol:

nikkic
11-18-2002, 03:38 PM
Hi everyone,
I keep forgetting there is a new thread on Monday.
The storm missed us. We are having drizzle, but it's suppose to warm up into the 50's in a day or so. That would really be nice.
I really have to give up nuts for awhile, at least sunflower seeds. I eat them like potato chips. Before I know it, I've eaten 1/2 a cup and feel so dumb. I don't know if I can get rid of dairy. I know I can't get rid of salt. I don't use much of it anyway, but I do like to sprinkle it on at the table on a few things.
Su, so good to hear from you, I was starting to wonder where you were.
I want to get the new ss'ing book too. I bought the contest book off her website. I have used it a lot, but there are only around 60 recipes in it. I have the dessert book, and there are some good recipes in there, but I don't make desserts anymore. Maybe someday when I'm a lot thinner.
I'm up to 30 min. a day on the gazelle. I also started the work out video that comes with the smart technique tapes. They say it is for average people, they look average. I still had a hard time keeping up, but I did and my muscles are still telling me about it. I think it is a good one and I needed to do something a little different, to get my muscles moving in a new direction. There is another tape, but it is like dancing and I can't move like that. I'm still using the relaxation tapes at night and I love them.
Aleka, Colleen's ring is big, but when I put it on, it fits nicely. The sides are smooth and not bulky. I hate it when you try to put your fingers together and a ring is so fat it keeps your fingers from getting together.
I bought a lot of jewelry for the girls for Christmas. I got a Veronaise (sp?) bracelet today from QVC. It is so beautiful and looks so real. I want to keep it for myself. It's that 18 k over sterling stuff, but this is so believable and comes so exquisitely packaged.
Talk to you all later, stay warm, Nikki

aleka
11-18-2002, 05:00 PM
Have you checked Suzanne's site for the contest recipe book? I think I saw it there the other day. Maybe you order it from her site. I don't know when her new book will be out in book stores. Suzanne is supposed to be on HSN Dec. 6th, 7th & 8th, and I believe she will be selling the book then.

mauvaisroux
11-18-2002, 10:39 PM
I have seen the book on her website but after I pay in U.S. dollars with our lousy exchange rate, shipping and handling, customs/duties and Gst it is much easier and cheaper to buy it in a bookstore in Canada. I am sure they will eventually end up in our local bookstore~guess I'll just have to be patient and wait :D

aleka
11-19-2002, 10:51 AM
I had a good weigh in this morning. I'm down 2.6 lb., which makes it a total of 10 lb. gone.:flow2:

I got Suzanne's bread machine yesterday. The recipe book is loaded with recipes, and I don't have to buy the bread mixes. I think the mixes are a bit steep for what you get. This will be an learning experience.

nikki, glad that the storm missed you. The temps today are just above freezing. Tomorrow and Thurs. are supposed to be our best days. Good for you doing 30 min. on the gazelle:bravo: That's fantastic! That's also good that you are mixing things up a bit.

ANNE, did you have all snow, if so, how much did you get? Way to go with your weight loss :cb: :cp: You really are really doing great! I've really never seen Joan Rivers jewelry. I think I'll pop into QVC and take a look.

Su, congratulations on your weight loss and getting into that sweater that was MUCH too small:dancer: :high: It really makes you feel good when that happens.:smug:

Hi Jennifer, hope you're doing ok.

Have a great day:hat:

Aleka

ANNE D
11-19-2002, 12:53 PM
Hi Everyone:
Aleka we got about 8 inches of the white stuff. It is melting like
crazy now but the weather forcast for the weekend is cooling off
and more snow. It is so odd because for the last few years we have had very little snow in Toronto.

Great weight Loss Aleka!!:bravo: It feels so great to make progress!:cb:

I am really educating myself on the carb charts in my protein power and atkins books. Lets see how much of a difference this
will make for me. According to everything I am reading I was
having way too many carbs.

Nikkic, you are doing great on that gazelle!!:cp: I am like a broken
record on that subject too many excuses not enough action. That will be my number one new years resolution!!!

Anne.

nikkic
11-19-2002, 05:17 PM
Evening eveyone,
Wow, you guys are getting the snow up north. It's funny how some years it seems like we have a snow storm all winter and others, it's a drought. So far, we have plenty of moisture, but no snow. It was 54 today. If the sun was out, it would have been a lot better. Tomorrow DH is off, so we're getting out the snow shovel and snow blower and getting ready for when we get some.
Aleka, great weight loss. :D I think I'll look at that thread you posted on about your woe. I'm just curious. Your new bread machine and cookbook sounds interesting, you'll have to let us know how it turns out.
Mauvaisroux, could you order the book from a bookstore? They might know where one is anyway.
Anne, I think with ss'ing, you get the wrong impression about carbs. I felt like as long as I ate them seperately, they were ok. But, they don't fill you up like a pro/fat meal and it seemed I ate a lot more to get full. One thing I always like about Atkins, it seemed more based in science and he really explains why something works like it does.
Well, guess I'll go slave over the stove. Later, Nikki

mauvaisroux
11-19-2002, 11:06 PM
Yup! It snowed a bit more today. You would think we would be used to it but we still complain about it every year :lol:

Nikkic-I could probably order it from chapters if I can find out who the publishers are. I am assuming it will be the same as her previous books.

Congratulations :hat: to everyone on their weight losses!
Keep it up ladies! :dancer:

I want to make some bread in my bread machine but I can only find bread machine flour in white or rye flour. Does anybody know of a brand that makes whole wheat bread machine flour?

Jennifer 3FC
11-20-2002, 12:57 AM
Hi guys! Been a crazy week for me with going back to work, so not getting much computer time. I have managed to lose 5 pounds for the month of November, so let's hope it keeps it up!

Mauv, are you wanting a mix, or just a flour suitable for machines? I am pretty sure my last bag of whole wheat flour was by Bob's Red Mill, and it was ok to use in the machine. It was either that or something like King Arthur...or some kind of medieval name!

Anne, I bet it was nice to see snow, did it get you in the mood for the holidays? I love to see it snow, but hate the slow melt.

Aleka, congratulations! 10 pounds is such a nice number!

Nikki, which tape is like dancing? I bought a regular tape on ebay. They had sets of 3 but you could buy them less direct from Fitness Quest than what they are on ebay! If I like this tape, I might buy the series.

Su, I hope the grill is easy also. I still want to grill on the back porch, but it can be done inside since it is electric. I especially want to cook fish on it on the porch. It would be nice to eat fish and not smell it in the house for 2-3 days.

Ok, here I go again. 1AM and I have to get up at 5:30. I think this is my cue to go to bed! See you all tomorrow!

aleka
11-20-2002, 06:51 AM
Did you all see the story in the paper and on The Today Show about how they are rethinking the Atkins Diet? They did a study on the Atkins Diet, and the American Heart Assoc. low fat diet, and in the Atkins Diet, people lost more weight, their triglycerides went down more, and their good cholesterol went up more. But of course, they have to do more studies. :s:

We're supposed to have our warmer weather starting today. I hope it's true. I'd like to get this crunchy ice melted.

Jennifer, congratulations on the 5 lb. loss. That's terriffic!:high: We have a GF Grill which we use all the time. I do miss having our hamburgers cooked outside though.

mauvisroux, here is a list of whole-wheat flour that has been tested using SS bread machine. King Arthur WW & White WW, Stone Buhr, Bob's Red Mill, Arrowhead Mills WW Pastry Flour, & Gold Medal. Hope this list helps you. We also got some snow last night before we went to bed.

Su, I was wondering how you keep your points so low while combining low-carbing & WW. I'm having a hard time keeping them low. I do eat oatmeal most mornings, but when I have bacon & eggs I end up using 6 or 7 points! I do make a vegetable soup that is 0 points, and I rely a lot on that for my meals. I do use reduced fat cheese, so I can keep my points fairly low there. Any tips you can give me?

nikki, even with whatever moisture we've gotten these past couple of months, we are still in a drought situation. There was a news story about it last night as a matter of fact. We are hoping that we get a lot of snow this winter so that come spring our well will be up where it should be. This winter we'll probably have to live with our well being low. How are the new tapes working out?

ANNE, I'm sure the Atkins & PP will make a big difference. It's funny how most low carb books say you have to balance your carbs & proteins, and eating carbs alone will spike your insulin level. That does make a lot of sense. Good luck with Atkins & PP

It's time to go make breakfast, take my shower, then start my day. You all have a great day.:goodvibes

Aleka

nikkic
11-20-2002, 09:47 AM
Morning everyone,
It's a beautiful day, sunny, clear sky, suppose to be in the 50's and then drop the next few days. These days are so rare in the winter, I feel like I have to spend the whole day out there and soak up as much as I can.
Mauvaisroux, I forgot which book you were wanting. The dessert book, Somersize Desserts is published by Crown Publishers New York. The Somersize Recipe Contest Cookbook is published by SLC, Sweet, Inc.
Jennifer, the one that has dancing is Fat Burning Mommy Style. I can't do all those steps. I don't have a large area, my ankle won't do it and I'm so uncoordinated anyway. I grilled in the kitchen last night, pork chops and thought about you. We had to open all the windows because of the smoke. I don't have an exhaust fan. Guess the indoor grillling will have to stop for the winter.
Has anybody made fried eggplant? I always made it with saltines, but last night I tried it with parmesan cheese and it was pretty good. Slice the eggplant as thin as you can about 1/8 inch, soak in salt water for awhile (gets rid of the bitterness), drain and pat dry. Dip in a egg wash and let this drain off pretty good (I put it in a colander), dip in parmesan cheese (from the can) and fry in hot oil til nice and brown. Pretty good, even DH liked it. It would also be extra good to top it with some spaghetti sauce, what's that called? But, it was good without it too.
The diet with the Smart Technique says not to eat proteins or carbs alone always together. That if you eat a carb alone it spikes you insulin too high. I wonder if I'll ever find a diet that I completely agree with, but no matter what, I know I'm eating a lot healthier than I was last year. No more sugar, potato chips or junk. That is one thing all diets agree on and is easy to understand and makes such a difference.
I recently read in Muscle and Fitness that if you eliminate dairy, your weight lose will reduce by 70%, something to do with hormones and calcium. Anyway, they suggested taking calcium supplements too. They have thermogenic properties and get your metabolism going. I take them, want to help my bones as much as possible.
Got to go exercise and then run outside and keep DH in line. It's his day off and he's giddy.
Nikki

ANNE D
11-20-2002, 10:33 AM
Hi All:
Aleka: they were talking about Atkins on our news too!! I order
the Protein Plan tapes, books, etc off of ebay yesterday for $10.00. I like tapes, I listen to them on the subway ride on the way in.
Question: Am I correct in this, If I eat all bran cereal and it is
27 carbos and there happens to be 16 grams of fibre, do I count
my cereal as 11 carbos? I was reading something in Atkins about
subracting your fibre grams from your carbo grams.:?:
Anne.

SuGeorgia
11-20-2002, 01:10 PM
Hi everyone! This place is MUCH more interesting than work, LOL! I am soooo excited that Atkins is finally getting some serious studies and respect.

I'll post more later, but in the meantime, the losses look very good!!

Aleka, I use a lot of soups (I have two in the frig at all times- homemade) and I keep cooked meats handy. I don't use much if any cheese or cream as those really add up too fast, and are where I've 'coasted' in the past. I decided that they weren't worth hanging up my wt loss over. Without those, I have trouble finding enough points somedays, so I bank them for a week in case I have a hungry day. I require that I eat a cup of veges with each meal, and I usually have a cup of strawberries or other very low count and low carb treat at night... helps me sleep. I can't eat wheat anyway, so I don't have that problem, and I'm used to checking out all processed foods because of that, so I don't eat a lot of them.

When I used to post on a low carb board, several people went in to Atkin's clinic when they had struggles with the diet. One of the main things they were told was that they were branching out too much into the creams, cheeses, and sometimes nuts. So, I'm incorporating that into my current WOE.

I hope that helps. I eat a reallly big breakfast everyday, it is not unusual for it to be 10 points, but then I'm less hungry at other meals.

nikkic
11-21-2002, 02:41 AM
Anne,
Subtracting fiber is something new with Atkins. Some of the old timers say they still don't subtract it, when I asked the same question awhile back on their boards. The reason he says you can is because your body doesn't use the fiber, it is suppose to just pass through. So, you can if you want, or not. If I'm counting my carbs, I don't, because I'm easily confused:dizzy: but it's perfectly fine to do it.
Su, you have a very balance woe. Very impressive.
It's really late, talk to you all in the morning, Nikki

aleka
11-21-2002, 07:10 AM
We had a beautiful day yesterday, it made it to 50 deg. I managed to get to do my walk outside in the afternoon, and from the amount of people I saw they all had the same idea.:s: It's foggy this morning, but they say it's to go downhill from there.

Su, thank you for your tips. When I started WW I switched from full-fat cheese to reduced fat, which is 2 pt. for 1 oz. Then I buy Kraft 2% slices, which are 1 point per slice. This way I can still have cheese and save some points. I LOVE cheese melted on anything and everything:T What do you usually eat for breakfast? I really miss having my eggs & bacon or sausage.

ANNE, I read the same thing about subtracting fiber from the carb to get total carbs in the PP power book. Also, you have to weigh your protein so that you're getting the right amount. But, I find that too much to think about. To me, it's hard enough to figure out what to eat and what not to eat.:lol: That's what was one of the things I loved about Sszing, no counting of anything, then that got too time consuming trying to find the right foods. :dizzy:

nikki, Ya, I'm like you, not agreeing with any diet.:lol: I can always find something wrong with whatever I'm doing. Even WW!! But, it's working for me, and that's all that counts. I do eat soy nuts, and I am allowed 1/4 cup, so I just measure that into a bowl and have some water with it, and you'd be surprised how much it fills you up.

Hi mauvaisroux & Jennifer :wave:

Have a good day. :balloons:
Aleka

SuGeorgia
11-21-2002, 09:58 AM
I'm back again! I went to see "Sweet Home Alabama" last evening as a treat... I've been in a dull spot lately. It was very light fare, but fun. I had the entire theater to myself! Very creepy on the spooky trailers, but I enjoyed it during the movie. Me and my diet soda, and NO POPCORN SMELLS! :)

Jennifer, I think the 5 lbs is a fantastic wt loss! Especially for just part of a month! How do you like the cabinets now that they have dried? I admire you for your energy!

Mauvaisroux- If you can't find the whole wheat locally, maybe one of the on-line stores is in your general area. I find it easier to get food shipped in the cooler months.

Nikki- That eggplant sounds very yum! I'll have to try it soon. I just love eggplant!

Anne- I'll have to check out the tapes. I just keep reading and trying to pick things from each diet that makes good sense to me.
About fiber, WW recently backed off their old fiber standards. It used to be that they subtracted points for lots of fiber. Now, they just count up to 4 or 5 gm in the calculations, and after that, all the food values are without deductions. They found that after a certain point, the calories mattered more than the fiber. I'd think it might be similiar with carbs, especially the more concentrated items. But, I tend to never subtract fiber, so I'm old fashioned :)

Aleka- The walk sounds great! I'm going to try out some of our parks and see where I feel comfortable walking. I live in a congested area.

I eat a LOT for breakfast and it is usually 6 to 12 points. Dining out, I get 2 sausage egg McMuffins and toss the muffins (most of the cheese goes too). At home, I have a cup of veges cooked in butter with at least 2 eggs, and usually some sausage or another meat. As I lose, I have to fiddle with reducing things, but I've learned I have to keep the protien high. Sometimes, I don't have a sausage or other fat in favor of something like ground turkey in a filling for an omlet. I rarely eat cheese, but when I do I like it to be real cheese. I hate the low-fat stuff, and it is usually low-fat with more carbs, not to mention additives. As Schwartzbein says "the cow knows best" :)

Well, I've been on a cooking hiatus this week. Any more good ideas that you are cooking? See you all soon,

nikkic
11-21-2002, 10:15 AM
Good morning everyone,
Su, that cooking hiatus sounds like a good deal to me. DH wouldn't like it much though. My daughter and I went to a movie recently and for awhile we had the whole place to ourselves. Then a couple of other people came in. It was kind of spooky, especially since it was a spooky film. People sure don't seem to go to the movies like they use to. I remember seeing the Exorcist in a theater, the place was packed and when there was a scarey scene, the whole audience would scream, which made it even scarier. A time before vcr's and pay per view. I'm feeling very old now.
Has anybody tried that soy slices stuff? It's like cheese but made from soy? I haven't looked at it very closely. I wonder if it's full of chemicals. I need to get some more soy in my diet. Aleka, I'll have to try the soy nuts.
We decided to go to an all you can eat buffet for Thanksgiving. I am just plain tired of cooking a big meal for 3 people and 2 cats, especially if I can't eat most of it. This place has pretty good food and everyone can get what they want. I hope it doesn't take all day to get in there. We've never done this before. At least there will be no leftover dressing calling my name for days afterwards.
Later, Nikki

aleka
11-21-2002, 10:33 AM
nikki, we too are going out for Thanksgiving. We started going out when my Dad was alive because there were just the 3 of us, then my IL's joined us, and they liked it so much they've been coming up ever since. The only thing I miss is the leftovers the next day. I haven't tried the soy cheese. I'll let you be the guinea pig ;) If you try it let me know how it is.

Su, thank you for letting me know what you have for breakfast. I've never thought of eating veggies along with my eggs. That's a great idea. Whenever I make scrambled eggs, an omelet, or a fritatta, I always add colored peppers and sometimes chopped broccoli. Well...the reduced fat cheese isn't too..too bad when it's melted on something, but the block cheese is rather rubbery. I absolutely LOVED Sweet Home Alabama. My GF & I usually go to a matinee, and there are a few retirees there, but the theater is far from being crowded. The cooking hiatus is right up my alley.:s:

Take care. Aleka

SuGeorgia
11-21-2002, 11:28 AM
OK! I have to back up on my declaration :) I do eat the soy cheese Mozeralla flavored or the hot pepper were the only ones I liked. I use the first in my eggplant bake. I started that years ago, and still do it... somehow it flavors it all so well, and I don't have to use other binders for the mix. And, I get some soy, which may be a very good thing!

nikkic
11-21-2002, 12:20 PM
One more thing I was wondering, does anyone use soy milk? I tried it once and I didn't like it, but I was wondering, maybe it was the brand? If anybody drinks it or knows a good brand, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll be the guinea pig for that too. Nikki

aleka
11-21-2002, 03:59 PM
I tried the Eden Soy brand in the vanilla flavor milk and it wasn't too bad once I got used to it. I haven't tried the plain flavor though.

aleka
11-22-2002, 06:51 AM
Did any of you see the news story that they are revamping the Food Pyramid that de-emphasizes carbs? I saw some of it on ABC News last night. After the story Dr. Timothy Johnson was on to give his opinion, and he suggested that everyone get a good nutritional book, and forget using the current pyramid. If you go to www.abcnews.com and click onto HEALTH, you can get to the story.

I also saw a good low carb website www.holdthetoast.com

Hope you all have a good day.:balloons:

ANNE D
11-22-2002, 07:53 AM
Happy Friday Ladies!:cb:

I was checking out the carbs on low cal jello pudding mix and it
states 7 carbs per serving. What I can't figure out are the carbs
coming from the skim milk you are suppose to add to the product?
I noticed great chocolate mousse recipes that call for diet pudding
but if that carbo count is not including the milk it would be
high as heck once you add it.

Weather here is gloomy and cold. We are going to get flurries
today.

I am feeling especially happy because my Boss:devil: is away.

Have a great day ladies!
Anne.

nikkic
11-22-2002, 10:21 AM
Hi everyone,
Anne, you must be practically dancing with your boss away. My DD has a really aweful boss to deal with too. Why do they put people like that in management positions? Is there some job requirement that says you have to be a real :censored: to get the job? I don't know what to tell you about the pudding. I looked at some mousse at the store the other day. It said it was sugar free and low carb, but it had 9 carbs per serving. I don't see how they really figure the low carb thing. Milk, even skim, converts to sugar. Maybe that is it.
Su, I found the mozzerella and hot pepper soy cheese at the store yesterday. I was so surprised they had it. I'm going to buy it the next time I get groceries. Thanks for suggesting it. Do you use soy milk? Do you have a favorite brand?
Aleka, I'll have to check that website out. I'm glad they are finally revamping that food pyramid. I am really tired of Drs. and nutritionist pointing to it like it's from the Bible. Thanks for suggesting the Eden Soy, I'll try it.
I did the whole cardio sculpt exercise video last night. I guess it's not that hard, but I do feel like I've had a good work out after. Plus, I really feel stretched out.
Have a great weekend everyone, Nikki

mauvaisroux
11-22-2002, 10:36 PM
Hello everyone:wave:

Yeah, I'm still here :lol: I have been very busy this week and not posting much.

Aleka~thanks for the info on that article and I am going to check out that hold the toast site too!

AnneD~woohoo! You got a break from the big bad boss today:cb: that must have been a treat!

Nikki~I totally agree with you on the manager thing:rolleyes:
I was the manager in retail for several years and I didn't treat people like that and my boss never treated any of the employees like that either. She had a good, hardworking staff who were loyal to her even when things got tough during the recession, which to me works better than having people dislike and distrust you. :shrug: I think that the *****y boss mentality is very old school and doesn't make for a very productive workplace.

I went to the ss website but I didn't see anything about her new cookbook there :?: Maybe it has only been released throught the HSN shows.

We went to see the new Harry Potter movie~it was great! I haven't read the books but have seen both movies and now I am thinking of getting the books.

Hi to Su, Jennifer ~thanks to both of you for the flour reccomendations :)

nikkic
11-22-2002, 11:17 PM
Mauvaisroux,
I shouldn't have generalized like that. I guess, my experience with my bosses was being reflected too. I have had several managers in the 20 years I worked. Only one male, who was always trying to get the women to sleep with him. I had probably 9 female managers and only one good, human one. I sure wish more employers encouaged managers to show compassion and to make work as enjoyable as possible. At least not to make the employees feel so underappreciated and crappy all the time. I'm sure you were great to work for, wish more people were like you.

aleka
11-24-2002, 12:01 PM
I think we may have lost some posts with the switch. So, I will start a new thread. See you there! Aleka