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Thighs Be Gone
12-17-2010, 06:14 PM
Hi Ladies.

Many of you may remember me as a frequent poster over the last couple of years. What I have to talk to you about today has nothing to do with weightloss. I do hope someone here can help me.

Last year we moved to a seemingly quieter area. We do not know our neighbors well but what we do know we don't like. Encounters with them have all been odd as are their personalities. Beyond odd actually.

I am concerned about a device I see has been mounted on the gutter of their home. It seems to have a circular round head on it (dare I say LENS like???) and has a capped wire hanging from it about 10-12 inches long. It is pointed at the garages on my own home where we come and go and where my children (two young girls) often play.

Am I to absolutely 100% assume this is indeed a camera? What is the possibility of it being a rain gauge, weather device or something to do with their garage door openers. Because of it's placement, it is impossible to plant a tree in front of it or anything of the like.

Does anyone have any idea what this could be if it isn't a camera?


cherrypie
12-17-2010, 06:22 PM
take a picture of it maybe?

I'm pretty sure it's illegal for someone to point a camera into your yard.

lizziep
12-17-2010, 06:38 PM
that would freak me the heck out! i agree, try to take a picture. if it is a camera- it'll freak them out cause they'll know you're on to them. haha.

and i do remember you! :)


kaplods
12-17-2010, 07:20 PM
take a picture of it maybe?

I'm pretty sure it's illegal for someone to point a camera into your yard.


In most places it's not, but you can always call the police department in your area and see if there's an ordinance against it.

JessLess
12-17-2010, 07:51 PM
I'd ask them what it is. But then, I'm pretty bold. If it is a camera they would have a tough time explaining it!

MiZTaCCen
12-17-2010, 08:12 PM
You can do multiple things here

Take a picture of it a close up and show us and we'll be able to determine it more.
Wait until the neighbours aren't home and go snooping to get a closer look at it.
call the police and have them come check it out.
ask them straight up what it is...
or two find a way when they are not home to knock it down haha

winning the war
12-17-2010, 08:21 PM
That IS odd. If it were my house, I'd be worried about why they were watching my property. It may be wise to invest in a security camera of your own. It sucks to have to think that way.

seagirl
12-17-2010, 08:33 PM
It could be part of a motion detector light, the lens is the thing that picks up the motion, but the capped wire sounds like it's not hooked up to anything.

Glory87
12-17-2010, 08:34 PM
Yeah, I would think it's more likely to be a security camera/motion sensor for their property.

darway
12-17-2010, 09:09 PM
It's not as odd as you think. Installing security cameras in one's own home is becoming a new trend as they become less expensive.

I would post a link about this but I don't have 25 posts. :rolleyes:

HartLover23
12-17-2010, 10:08 PM
They're probably just paranoid if it is a security camera.

my fiance's father is a paranoid schizophrenic and has set up security cameras in front of his house numerous times. He moved in with grandma, and installed a hunting camera (it's basically a motion-sensitive camera that takes a picture when something moves) in front of her house because he was convinced people were trying to break in. Same with his crappy house... always thought people were going to break in and steal his crap.

I'm not sure if talking to them will solve anything, so I'd take a picture of it and try to look at it closer. I'd also look up the local laws and call your local police department and ask.

kaplods
12-17-2010, 11:35 PM
Even if it's a security camera, it could be fake or could be unconnected (not filming). Dummy cameras have become a trend in home security to fake out would-be burglars.

It could be difficult to tell if the camera is intentionally aimed at your home, or if the street and sidewalk of his property is the actual target, and your house just happens to be in the background (or whether your house can even be seen with the camera, if it is a camera).

You can't hide a camera on someone else's property or trespass onto their property to tape them, but in most places, you can put a camera pretty much any where you want to on your own property, even if it's aimed at someone else.


When I was a probation officer, there was a guy on probation (not on my caseload, but of the probation officer I shared an office with) who had unsuccessfully tried to get the case against him thrown out because the main evidence against him was a videotape his neigbors had set up in their house, aimed out there window. I don't even remember what he was supposed to have done, only that the neighbors had caught it on tape.

You could of course buy a security camera (or a dummy) and aim it at his home.

HartLover23
12-18-2010, 12:51 AM
i never even thought that it might be a dummy camera.

GradPhase
12-18-2010, 01:07 AM
The capped wire makes me think that, whatever it is, isn't actually hooked up. It may be a motion sensor, it may be a camera that's just pointed -anywhere- until they hook it up properly and it's just coincedentally pointed your way.

What you could do is ask them, Hey, I saw what looks like a security camera on your gutter - is that what it is? Have you noticed any trouble in the neighborhood I should be aware of? I'm always trying to look out for the best interest of my little ones! - do you know where I might be able to buy some? Or something like that....

It shows that you're paying attention to whatever it is they're doing without pointing fingers at them.

Pint Sized Terror
12-18-2010, 01:09 AM
I doubt they're watching your house on purpose. Crime can show up anywhere, and maybe they're just wary of it. You could ask them what it is, I would. Otherwise, it could simply be a motion detector that turns on an exterior light when it detects motion in the yard.

GradPhase
12-18-2010, 01:11 AM
Also - maybe do a double check on your neighborhood with the registered sex offender database, just for piece of mind :)

EZMONEY
12-18-2010, 08:38 AM
Also - maybe do a double check on your neighborhood with the registered sex offender database, just for piece of mind :)

Great idea IGLOOGIRL!

I was shocked to see how many were in the area of my home when I checked a couple of years ago.

darway
12-18-2010, 11:07 AM
OK. *Today* I have 25 posts and can insert a hyperlink. :)

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/25966729/detail.html

This was a news story here in Charlotte, about people that had the cameras on their homes, recording the burglars as they robbed the place!

Thighs Be Gone
12-18-2010, 11:13 AM
Thank you everyone for posting back to me. A girlfriend of mine has a husband that works in international investigations--he is overseas much of the time. Last night I phoned her and he has gladly agreed to come out and have a look.

I would agree about it being a "dummy" camera except that these people don't seem the dummy types at all. The entire family is odd and have a lot of money and seem to have lots of time too--which also makes me uneasy about the cameras.

Thighs Be Gone
12-18-2010, 11:15 AM
Oh, I checked about the sex offender thing before purchasing the home. There aren't any nearby. I will tell you this though--my mom radar is still going off...can't help it. My intuition is what it is.

sacha
12-18-2010, 12:55 PM
Oh, I checked about the sex offender thing before purchasing the home. There aren't any nearby. I will tell you this though--my mom radar is still going off...can't help it. My intuition is what it is.

Well, I work in policing and can assure you that the majority of sexual predators are never convicted and therefore are never registered, so if your mom radar is going off, just be aware of that. I don't even bother checking those registries myself.

I would assume it's probably just a security camera for their own purposes but there's no harm in being careful.

FrouFrou
12-18-2010, 09:41 PM
Is it in the front or on the side? Also, do they have a sprinkler system? I ask this because we have something like what you are talking about, doesn't quite look like a camera but can be mistaken for one, and our neighbor has a bigger one that looks sort of like a radar/camera...it's a rain something or another, lol...can't remember what it is called, shoot...rain detector, lol?. But it detects if it is raining so when the sprinklers are set to come on they won't an dwe don't have to worry about turning them off...it doesn't it automatically. If I remember I will take a picture tomorrow and post it to see it if it the same thing.

Thighs Be Gone
12-19-2010, 11:13 PM
frou frou--would LOVE to see that picture..they also have a swimming pool..like ours, I assume they have a gauge somewhere that tells you when it's raining and what the pool levels are so the pool knows when to refill..ours looks different than this contraption though..yes, would LOVE to see your pic

wantabetterme
12-20-2010, 01:54 PM
It could be harmless but trust your mommy radar. It is often very accurate.

GradPhase
12-20-2010, 02:13 PM
Maybe since they have a lot of money they

A) know they're more likely to be burgled (? Lol)

And

B) have a lot of fancy things declared in their home insurance and by having a camera, it lowers their insurance bills.

kaplods
12-20-2010, 02:36 PM
The entire family is odd and have a lot of money and seem to have lots of time too--which also makes me uneasy about the cameras.

This would actually reassure me (then again, I'm fairly odd myself).

My hubby has a lot of friends with a lot of time and money and they're all gadget addicts. I could totally see any of them putting up security cameras because of their love of gadgetry, and while they could use it to spy on all the neighbors, their real purpose and focus would just be on the gadgetry itself. In fact, once they got it all set up, they'd lose interest in it completely. It's the shopping, buying, and set up that's the thrill, once they actually own it, using it gets old fast, and they're on to the next new shiny toy.