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aaronsmom
11-14-2002, 08:06 PM
I am the queen of starting the threads before the day technically begins, but like our wonderful Canadian friends said, when you post late in the day, there's only about 3 people that read it. And since I'm one of the three, I know this! :) And I just couldn't resist the thread name, with all of the foo foo discussion. Speaking of foo foo coffe, I am so addicted to chai lattes it's not even funny. I even order a mix off the internet because it's a really expensive habit for me. Each chai latte costs me 3 points, and I would estimate that I spend 9 points a day on my addiction. Scary! But as long as I crave it so badly, I work it in...if I didn't I would resist it all day but go nuts later in the day as a sort of rebellion.

I was at this workshop for the last few days. It was mostly borning, so I was doing some people watching while I was there. I wouldn't say these observations to anyone out loud, but I just have to get it out here what I did see. A woman sat next ot me, whom I would guess was easily 150 lbs over a healthy weight. And I've been on the heavier side of where I should be, so that part isn't such a big deal to me. It's the way she was. She was the most negative, cynical, and bitter person that I've ever met in my life. We did a lot of group work, and every comment I had about our work was met with snide remarks about,"Well, I guess 22 year olds have the kind of energy to implement that in their teaching." or "Who are you sleeping with to get that kind of thing out of the school district's budget", or, my personal favorite,"Boy, you really do live in happy la-la-land, don't you?" She was so completely unhappy. She really seemed to have no sense of self-worth apart from that which she got from making excuses about why everything was so much easier for me than her. Never mind that none of her excuses held water, seeing as how I'm 28 and not 22, and that my school's budget is no different than any other's. As for happy la-la land, I think I am living in normal world and she is living in whiner *****-***** land. But, believe it or not, this isn't even about her rude behavior. It's about her eating. She ate constantly. In the morning, she showed up with 2 doughnuts on a plate that she brought in with her, and a big bottle of coke. She had those gone in no time, and moved on to squeezing lemons that were provided for our tea, into a cup and adding sugar packets and water to make lemonade. We started at 8:30, and by our 10:00 break, she was up collecting more food. This time it was 2 giant muffins and a roll of mints. She ate the muffins fast and crunched down the whole roll of mints. She then made herself more "lemonade". At lunch, she ate her soup cup, her sandwich, and half the basket of chips that was intended for the whole table. Then she ate not only all the dessert candy in the middle of our table, but went aorund and collected from the other tables. THe afternoon was 2 more b20 oz. cokes and a box of crackers. We invited her to go out with the rest of us for dinner, but she declined, saying she just wanted to eat a pizza in her room. The next day was much of the same, except that this time, during lunch, she took 3 rolls out of the basket that only held one for each person at the table. You may ask why I have such a vivid memory of what she ate and when, and I guess it's unusual to remember it that clearly, but quite frankly, I was just playing amateur psychologist. She had clearly shown, through her language and behavior towards others, that she felt inadequate in that room. She then ate away her unhappiness. Now it's not her actions that horrified me so much, but the fact that I could find myself in her behaviors. I make lots of excuses about why I fail at things, without addressing the real reasons. Like tht I am overweight and that's why someone doesn't like me, instead of realizing that I didn't make a whole lot of effort at being their friend first and asking about them...I just wanted to talk about myself or I had convinced myself in advance that they weren't going to like me because I was overweight. Or that I no one really has enough energy to do exercise regularly, when the fact is that many people manage quite well, and there is no reason that I am different from them except by my attitude.

Sorry that this is such a long and boring read, but I had to get it out somewhere. It was just exploding inside of me. But I will be a good fat chick today and answer lots of posts, since I am finally home again! :)


Sweater Girl
11-14-2002, 11:23 PM
Jayne: Hey, ya, from reading about that lady I identified some behaviours I used to have to... I used to use my weight as an excuse for everything... Why I didn't have a boyfriend, why I never got a lead in a play etc etc. Made me negative and very cynical... Well a few years before I started losing weight my attitude improved a lot, and in many ways I think that attitude adjusment was the key to my success. I started becoming accountable for my actions and trying to improve things. It got to a point though, I felt to reach my potential I would have to lose weight. I did it because I felt good about myself, but not good about the extra pounds on me. It's funny, I am a very secure person now and I think once I lost the weight I realized the only obstacles I had were ones I created for myself.... It's hard to get out of the negative mindset.. Sadly I used to eat like that lady. I hope I never made such catty comments though. I found I got some catty comments at WW meetings from people... like "well it's easy for you to lose weight since you're young"... I mean it's never easy to lose 100lbs... it took a lot of effort (heck losing 10lbs can be hard even for us young'uns... are lifestyle is often much less stable too).

Eek, looks like I might lose a roomate and guess what"? He never mentioned this at all. I heard it from his fiancee.... I wish he'd tell me these things first (he might be leaving Ottawa).

Also, I went out with a really nice guy last night, we have a lot of the same goals and mindset which was cool... He already sent me an e-mail saying he's like to go out again. the only problem? He's just got out of a 5 1/2 year relationship... He talked about his ex quite a bit, although he was the one who ended the relationship.. I am unsure what to do. I am thinking of telling him I just want to be friends for now... but he was a real angel of a guy.... Like he could definitely be boyfriend material, but not just yet. I just don't want to be a rebound-chick. Gosh I have dated way too many guys this year;)

Anyhoo, toodles everyone!!

Ali:)

have a foo foo friday (though my best friend calls her baby bro foo foo).. cute expression though:)

Sweater Girl
11-14-2002, 11:24 PM
Jayne : Chai latte lovers of the world unite:)

I am one too!!!!


KO
11-14-2002, 11:31 PM
Hey Chicks ARG I was good and OP all day till my friends decided we were going out to dinner mind you i'm broke and most um inexpensive things on a menu are a fatfest
Btw before i forget I call Foo Foo Coffee/tea drinks Fluffy
why b/c usually i get a latte with a shot of flavour and the milks all fluffy I get skim does anyone know pts for flavour shots?

OK first of all before
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD I AM WATCHING GRAHAM NORTON!! AND ITS THE SHANNON DOHERTY EPISODE!!! I'M GOING TO SEE KIRSTY!!!!!!!!!! FOLEY HUCK!!!!!! BBIAB I'm going to watch THEN post!

KO
11-15-2002, 12:05 AM
OMG KIRSTY YOU ARE STUNNING!!!!!
you guys have to see the book she put together!!!!
oh the underwear ref is b/c graham sent a guy out on the street with a pair of edible pants over his trousers and paid some woman 20 quid to eat them off of him

back to reality
I'm sending everyone a big hug b/c it seems like this week was just extra hard allll around

:grouphug:
we all survived tho
Deb I'm keeping a good thought for you tonight honey you're a strong woman just take care of you
Jayne! can i kick that womans hiney??? PLEASE?
I think you should do your own cookbook woman you are so innovative
Ali keep new boy at a distance for a month or so you are too precious to be rebound chick!

oooh I'm getting exercise equiptment on tuesday!! the upper arm bike also my knee is getting a bit dodgey so i think i'll be skipping the treadmill and doing that machine if i can get someone to bring it down here for me
if not i'll have to exercise on the weekends and then bring it back with me in january depending on how cumbersome it is
BUT!
and its a slightly smaller one b/c its mine
I'm going to take swimming lessons in the spring semester!!
be back tommorrow
xoxo
Kier

Princess Jihan
11-15-2002, 07:49 AM
morning girls. oh my. chai tea lattes. YUM. those are pretty great arent they?? I'm totally exhausted...went to a ball game and got home sooo late, also ate a darn hot dog with caused me to be over points, but i will hopefully make up for it today....
wow Ali. you lost 100 lbs?? that is amazing. I need your story for inspiration.
ok girls.. i'm off to get some coffee....not quite awake yet.

WinterGirl
11-15-2002, 09:08 AM
Morning Ladies!

The internet screen is down at work so thought I'd pop in for a minute.

Jess & Deb - it is so often hard to end a relationship even when you know it is for the best. I ended a 4 year, 2 moves across the country relationship a few years back. He'd been my best buddy for 6 yrs before we started dating. Leaving was HARD. But....my life now is a lot better than it was then.

Jayne - I don't remember going to a seminar this week but I'm pretty sure that you were sitting next to the ghost of my old self. Your insights (I'll explain why below) really hit home and I want you to know how much I value your wisdom.

Ali - ditto, ditto, ditto on the weightloss/attitude adjustment. About the boy. It was a first date which are always nerve wracking and maybe his first date in 5 1/2 years which would make it harder. I say you should plead a busy schedule and then make a date for 2 weeks from now. If you like the guy - do that 2 or 3 times - that way you don't relegate him to friend status but get a chance to actually see what he's like after the nervousness wears off. Or just be blunt...tell him that you think he's an incredibly interesting man but that you'd like to get to know him - not his ex - then steer the conversation to his life before the ex.

Kier - sweetie - please fed ex me some of your exuberance for life - I could sure use it.

Confessions time.....I'm having a little problem with depression the last month or so. Depression of the I don't want to get out of bed in the morning variety. I haven't worked out since Orlando and am back to eating fast food 3 times a day. Only Jayne's little story hit home - I used to be that woman and I don't want to be her again - so I need to get myself back on track here. I don't really have a reason to be depressed and since it's the season of thanks giving in the U.S., I'm going to work on a mood adjustment - here are 5 things I'm grateful for:

My Family
My Home
A Steady income
The amazing guy I'm dating
Only having to work 1 day this weekend

What are each of your thankful for?

Kirsty
11-15-2002, 10:15 AM
kier - i can't believe you just saw me on TV. that's kinda freaky!
hi to everyone else. excellent threads lately! i use chi-chi instead of foo foo. but perhaps i'll use foo foo now.
and now my head has started rhyming things, i must say that relationships ending is poo poo, and being a rebound chick is doggy doo.
apart from that - how are you?
i'll stop now. too much diet coke.
kirsty
ps laura - hope you're ok. i can't get out of bed at the moment either but that's cos it's cosy and warm in there and dark and wintry outside. plus i haven't been sleeping well lately so i'm extra tired.
pps wanna know a secret? BF is off in florida this weekend but gets back monday morning. i have a funny feeling i might not be at work on monday. i may be sick and have to stay at home with him all day. tummy bug perhaps... ;)

Kirsty
11-15-2002, 10:18 AM
i'm thankful for my family and friends. a few years ago i went through a really low patch (and guess what - put on lots of weight!) and my self-confidence was at an all time low. my family and friends were so great and supportive and made me realise that i am intelligent and good at what i do and no matter what some people might say or do to me i can rise above it.

Princess Jihan
11-15-2002, 10:24 AM
5 things i am thankful for:
my mom and stepdad
my boyfriend
my health
my cats
my mind

Jen-L
11-15-2002, 10:27 AM
Hey all... off to a meeting so I will be back later!!

Kirsty... I use the words poo poo all the time too. Maybe I am a foo foo rhymer...

Oh, gotta go...

RhubarbJelly
11-15-2002, 11:04 AM
Hey girls,

Last night was a struggle night for me. I really wanted to eat & eat & eat! I didn't but let me tell you I was really *****y & grumpy all evening. Why does that happen? I'm really starting to think that I am a food addict & last night was withdrawal. I hope today is better. I am determined to make this work.


Kirsty, What is Graham Norton? How did you end up tv?

Jayne, Sounds like you had an interesting seminar. I feel sorry for that woman. Sounds like someone needs to help her see she is a valuable person.

Ali, How long has this boy been broke up from his last relationship? Are you his first date since then?

Kier, exercise equipment sounds exciting. Hope you enjoy it as you use it.

Laura, I hope you're feeling better. Depression sucks. Get help if you don't bounce back soon.

Jihan, hope you get a chance to get some rest today. Being exhausted makes the day so long.

A few of the things I'm thankful for:
-DH, family & friends
-my health
-my job
-living in a peaceful country
-music
-all you girls & your support here at 3fc

I'll probably pop back in later. Take care all :)

WinterGirl
11-15-2002, 11:05 AM
Kirsty - I hope that you are very, very, very "sick" on Monday!

Morning PJ and Jen!

I just have to obnoxiously brag a little....CB just brought me a diet coke at my desk! I thought it would be weird to date someone that works for my company but since we don't actually sit near each other or work on the same projects its not bad. Kinda fun actually to be able to meet for lunch.

I've got to plan an office x-mas party for a department of 60+. Do any of you have ideas of things to do other than bowling?

Jen-L
11-15-2002, 11:25 AM
Laura... hubby and I work together.. and although it wears on me sometimes... we only bring one car to work, we get lunch together, and there is always someone I can sneak out with to let my venting out at!

Oh and I am supposed to plan our party too, but after Christmas so it's not so hectic. I was told to look into an indoor golf driving range that we have here. Also, do you have any game type places where you can get a private room, and then let people act like kids again... like a Dave and Busters or something. We don't, but we have an indoor go-kart place. Never been to it, but it is another possibility. Never thought of bowling. Good Luck. Last year we had a picnic at the end of summer and that was way easier to plan. Wish we would have done that this year!!!

JessIsOK
11-15-2002, 11:41 AM
First off, where is Deb? I want to know how last night went for her... Hopefully she'll say that it all went well (and maybe that will make tonight easier for me).

I've been discussing what I'm going to do with the girls here at work. They've been "with" Aaron and I for the last year and a half, so they've seen the ups and downs and know both of us pretty well. They know that Aaron can always back me down from a resolve--he's always been able to do that. So, the plan is to do something like this... I'll tell him that there are some things I need to tell him, please don't interrupt, and he can talk when I'm done. I'll then proceed to tell him how much I love him and will always love him, that we both need to do some growing up, that it's not because I've found someone else but that it's because we've hurt each other too much during the course of our relationship for it to ever get back to where we want it to be, maybe someday we'll both be more ready for this sort of relationship, and that I'm sorry but things aren't going to work out right now. Then, I'll let him respond and if I start to see my resolve crumbling, I'm just going to say "I'm sorry, but I have to go now." I'm going to jump in the car, turn off my cell phone, ignore it if he pages me (because I can't turn my pager off--it's for work), and shop my heart out. Do you guys think it's too mean for me to tell him I have to go if he starts making me think I don't want to do this? I just know him and it's ALWAYS happened that I'll have a plan and he'll manage to make me forget all about it. This is too important to let him back me down.

I'm sorry to spend so much time talking about this, but it's a huge stress factor for me right now and the more opinions I get, the more confident I feel.

Things I'm thankful for:
My family and friends (you guys included!)
A roof over my head
My Independence
Weight Watchers and my gym
Chocolate :lol:

Jayne, your post about that worman made me think about what a change WW, my gym, and my efforts have made in my life. There was a time when I was angry and bitter and thought that nothing good ever happened to me because I was heavy. It wasn't that, it was that I was heavy and too shy to cause good things to happen to me. Now that I've lost some weight, I know that there's virtually nothing I can't do and I'm not afraid to try. Even though I think she was a total *****, I also feel pity for her...

Ali, about the boy... I would try a few more dates and see if he's trying to get serious or if he's just trying the dating thing. If things progress in the direction of serious, then have a seat and a long talk about your feelings and his feelings. I wouldn't worry too much because you could go out a couple more times and find that you don't really like him all that much.

Kier--Exercise equipment? I am SO jealous! I would love to have my own, but I wonder if I'd ever use it... Hopefully you don't have any trouble! OK, Kier, I gotta ask--are originally from the US? You use words like "arse" and "dodgy" that I've noticed people of a more British persuasion use... ?? :)

Dangit, I gotta get to a meeting! I'll be back later to respond to everyone else!! :wave:

Princess Jihan
11-15-2002, 11:56 AM
Laura
we are also trying to plan a holiday office thing...my office goes all out and we have a building shin dig and then also go out. we cant figure out this year yet, but last year we went and saw "a christmas carol" and went to look at lights, the year before we went on a little day cruise. things like that are always fun...

WinterGirl
11-15-2002, 12:09 PM
Wow - it sure is nice to pop in here all day. I didn't even realize how much I missed you guys this past week!

JenL - we take different cars because we work slightly different hours plus we aren't always coming from the same place but it is nice to meet for lunch sometimes. Downside though is that we spend A LOT of time away from work talking about work - plus we don't always have a shared opinion on a co-worker so venting has to be somewhat reigned in.

Jess- I know this is hard but you can't worry about Aaron's reaction to the break-up. Once you break-up with him his feelings/moods are no longer your concern. Also, if you think you might be teary, consider a movie rather than shopping. It's a lot easier to cry a little in a dark theatre than in a brightly lit shopping mall.

Thanks for the great holiday party ideas ladies. Keep 'em coming - I'm going to check out a few of them. Also, since no one I work with responded to my request for ideas, I'm going to go with things I like - the symphony, the ballet, plays. Hee-hee!

JKarr
11-15-2002, 12:14 PM
However, I have a huge paper due tomorrow morning so I will be spending my evening studying. But, after class tomorrow, I am going to the spa with a girlfriend for a massage and a facial! I can't wait!!

There is so much going on here lately, making Laura's idea to remember what we are thankful for so important. So, here's my list:
my parents and the values they instilled in me
my sister and brother and their truthfulness and friendship
my great group of supportive (and fun!) girlfriends
my health and physical strength
my mind
my determination and motivation
my independence

No matter how down I get (and I do) I like to look at how much I have done with my life already and how much I look forward to doing. That gets me out of bed, even on those really difficult days. You have to live thru the rain to get the rainbow...

I don't have time to address each of you, but I have you all in my thoughts as you struggle with different things. Take care of yourselves and do what you need to do for YOU! :)

Horsey girl
11-15-2002, 01:17 PM
I have to make this quick because I'm supposed to be training someone today. Thankful is something I'm good at - only five is the hard part.
I am thankful for freedom
I am thankful for my health
I am thankful for my education
I am thankful for my paycheck (ok - today is payday)
But most of all I am EXTREMELY thankful for my friends and family (I wouldn't have all the rest of it without them.)

If I don't end up with someone watching me all afternoon, I'll check in later
KT

KO
11-15-2002, 02:22 PM
hey girls just a quickie b/c im running out
I'm fully american jess i just have irish and british friends! i'll check the rest of todays posts when i get home tonight

Princess Jihan
11-15-2002, 02:26 PM
update on holiday party. i think this year we are going to a botanical garden thing and to lunch....downtown.
ok, so i ate something at lunch that is NOT agreeing with me! everyone here is sick....hope i'm not catching it!!!
how is everyone's friday shaping up?

Jen-L
11-15-2002, 02:39 PM
Man I can't wait to go home. It's one of those days. No motivation to get working on anything. I have 3 1/2 hours left... UGHHHHHH... And I have a pain in my butt... literally. Not sure if it is a nerve or what, but I had some sciatic pain when I was PG with Emma. Seems too early for that tho. Who knows.

Oh and I am exausted too. Emma had a nose bleed last night and woke up screaming. She would not go back to sleep, so hubby and I are sleepless in Wisconsin today.

Deb... please check in and let us know how you are doing!!

Laura... oh I hate that we bring work home and discuss it. We have a new rule, if work is discussed, we have the right to tell the other person to shut up. It causes a lot of problems when we discuss work 24 hours, we need our own time!!

Oh and I am thankful for a lot of things... a small sampling is...

My wonderful family
Being able to get PG and have another child
Both hubby and I having jobs
Being able to afford the over looked conveniences
My Freedom!!!

modkittn
11-15-2002, 03:02 PM
Hey everyone, thought I woudl introduce myself. My name is Lori, I'm 22 nad live in RI. I started WW in June 2001 went until Sept 2001. Stopped going ( no money =( ) but went back in Jan 2001. I lost 7 lbs between Sept and Jan so that wasn't bad =) I have been OP ever since. Hit a plateau in May, just got off of it a couple weeks ago (it was EXTREMELY frustrating, can you imagine plateauing for 4 MONTHS???). But I am only 4 pounds away from WW goal. I have lost 66.4 altogether. My personal goal is about 14 pounds away. I look forward to chatting more!

Lori

aaronsmom
11-15-2002, 03:08 PM
Hi girls...
Laura, read your PM :)

Jen, sounds like sciatica to me...just when they get big enough to rest their little bottoms on that nerve. That's an icky thing....I hope (s)he shifts off it soon! I admire you for being able to work with your hubby...I'm afraid I would either end up taking really long lunches, if you know what I mean, or that I would kill him because our work styles are so different. Thank the Lord we're in unrelated fields!

Kier, not only are you fully American...you are fully JERSEY GIRL, in a Jersey world, you look fantastic, you pants are made of plastic...probably you and I are the only ones who have any idea what the hoo I'm talking about. For everyone else, remember that song,"Barbie Girl"? Well, a New York radio station made their own version, called Jersey Girl and it got quite a bit of air time. It was, quite frankly, the funniest thing I've ever heard, and Carmella Soprano is pretty much the epitome of the whole song.

KT, I think you should take the training person and tell her to go explore all of the break room and restroom locations in the building for her future reference. Then sneak off and chat with us! :)

Jen, I am jealous...nothing makes you feel better than a spa day. I bet that will be a great stress reliever after your test. NOw get busy and study, young lady!

Laura, for my past holiday parties at work, we would have a potluck at someone's house and use the money we would have spent going somewhere as a gift allowance. We buy a gift with the money, wrap it, and do a "stealing swap" with them, where everyone gets one and the first person opens theirs and the second person can either open or steal the first person's, etc. I don't know how that would work with bigger groups, and I have no idea what the group I'm with now does, but that's what we used to do.

modkittn
11-15-2002, 03:09 PM
How do I get this "Junior Member" thing to say something different and how do I get to post a little pic too?? HELP! =)

aaronsmom
11-15-2002, 03:20 PM
Oh, that got submitted before I was ready!

Jess, I think you have a really good plan, and on top of that, you're going to get all of your Christmas shopping done. The other thing that comes to my mind is that with your new home-business and the holidays, you're going to have so much going on that you're not going to be able to sit around and think too much...always a bad thing to think too much after a tough breakup. This way some of the healing happens before things slow down enough for you to be able to think and you'll gain a clearer perspective. That one's for you too, Deb, wherever you are today...I'm thinking about you as well!

Rina, I'm proud of you for not giving in to that struggle last night (at least I'm assuming you didn't give in, as otherwise it would have been a pretty short struggle!) I think that each struggle like that strengthens and works out our resolve muscles,and that will keep them that much stronger for the next struggle. The struggle may never really end, but it won't be as hard since you'll be so well-developed!

Hey PJ! :)

Kirsty, I think that you should write a collection of Poo-Poo poetry and give to us all for Christmas! :) I hope that you're sick over and over and over on Monday, :devil:

Ali, good for you on your refusal to be the rebound chick. Maybe you should come right out and tell him that this is a fear of yours, so that he doesn't get the idea that you don't like him, but knows why you're backing off. Gotta love that chai! I may have to change that in my profile to something chai-related.

And last, but not least, I am Thankful for (and will try to remember to be thanks-ful for):
1. a wonderful husband and a little boy who is the sunshine of my life
2. a house that is truly home to me (can't say that about any other house I've ever lived in)
3. a job that I love and the extra income it brings in
4. all of the opportunities I have to incorporate my love of music and singing into my life
5. All of my friends, who make life so much fun ( and that includes all of you!!!)

On that corny note, have a happy weekend!

A big kiss for all of you, Kier-style:

MWAH!

Princess Jihan
11-15-2002, 03:21 PM
go to the top of this page and click User cp...that will take you to the Edit page. it's called your Signature or something like that? you'll see it, it's there where you make your signature

aaronsmom
11-15-2002, 03:23 PM
Hey Lori, nice to see you here. Go to the very top of the thread and find something in the tiny print that says user cp. Click on this, and it will give you all kinds of fun options. I think once you're in it, you can go into your personal profile or something that sounds like that, and change it...just don't check the reset button next to the change, or it changes it to the default. I learned this the hard way several times! :) I'm glad you're so close to goal, and I think that this group will give you lots of support and laughs for the last 16 pounds and beyond!

Sweater Girl
11-15-2002, 04:27 PM
Hey All,

Yeah, it was his first date in 5 1/2 years. He was fine though, wasn't outwardly nervous, which tends to happen to some of the guys I date (one of them was so nervous he gave me tons of cheesy lines, it was really sweet actually).

What am I thankful for?

1 - my family
2 - my friends
3- My confidence and strength
4 - Being given an awesome life to work with
5 - Being able to accomplish my dreams:)


Take care!

Ali