Exercise! - If you wear Vibram Five Fingers, how are they working out?




Quail
12-11-2010, 11:37 PM
I've been wearing VFF's KSO as my primary running shoe for awhile now and it's been a very interesting experience. I have a big bone spur on the bottom of my left foot, so I thought these shoes would be a really poor choice. Instead, my feet no longer hurt during or after running. I also notice that I bend my knees a lot more and I seem to be able to run longer becuase my feet don't hurt like they once did. I honestly thought that becuase of my weight, this kind of shoe would be a problem. I'd like to think I'm wrong, but I'm going to give it a few more weeks before I decide.

Does anyone else wear Vibrams? How do you like them? Any problems? What brand are you using? I'm thinking about getting a different style and would like to see what everyone else has.

Thanks!


deetermined2
12-12-2010, 12:53 AM
You might check MDA to see if there are any posts over there, since I think Mark recommends them.

Ursula745
12-12-2010, 02:19 AM
I have your same shoes. I love them. i use them for indoor exercise and running on the TM, but i can't run outdoors in them yet. Are you able to run outdoors? Heel/mid/or forefoot strike? I'm working on changing my gait.


seidlet
12-12-2010, 02:24 AM
my husband wears vibram five fingers and LOVES them - i wanted some for myself, but the shoes won't fit on my weird toes. anyway, they've totally changed my husband's life - he has congenitally deformed feet that have given him all kinds of leg pain (which in turn gives him other pain for compensating for the leg pain while walking) and has worn prescription inserts and seen physical therapists since childhood, but the vibrams literally re-taught him how to walk naturally in a week, and he's had no pain since. i'd give them a hundred stars if i could after seeing how happy my husband is in them!!

cheryl126
12-12-2010, 07:55 AM
I've had the Bikilas for about a month and they're pretty awesome. I just posted in the running thread yesterday that despite the wintry weather and the fact that I have not been running that much (1-2 times/week:o) I actually ran a personal best 5k time yesterday. My stride feels very natural and I feel like I am running faster in general. I'm not having any pain except that I had calf pain in the beginning, but that was to be expected --> everyone told me to start slow with short runs when I got them, but even that first mile killed me, lol! No pain after the first week though.

I've only been using them outside and I'm kind of sad for what's going to happen when it starts to snow. I know that there are socks you can get to go with the vibrams, but the bikilas are designed to be a little more snug than the other versions so I don't know if socks would work:(

CherryPie99
12-12-2010, 10:20 AM
I have had problems with my feet my whole life and when I started walking/running on the treadmill I was doing it in my sock feet. But even with thick socks the roughness of the treadmill was scraping my feet up. So I bought the Vibrams this fall and LOVE them. It really does feel very close to walking in bare feet.

Because we now have a ton of snow on the ground, I haven't worn them outside other then a couple of times, so I'm looking forward to next spring to try them in my outdoor hiking and walking areas.

seidlet
12-12-2010, 01:06 PM
Because we now have a ton of snow on the ground, I haven't worn them outside other then a couple of times, so I'm looking forward to next spring to try them in my outdoor hiking and walking areas.

i bought my husband a pair of the 'flow' style five fingers (the waterproof ones) that he wears with the injinji socks in the snow - so far, they're working great!

tytbody
12-13-2010, 05:08 PM
I want those for exercising at home... do they have any arch support though?

nelie
12-13-2010, 05:41 PM
I want those for exercising at home... do they have any arch support though?

No. None of the barefoot type shoes do. The concept is that your arch will support itself if you are walking 'barefoot'.

morphomel
12-13-2010, 05:42 PM
Edit: Oops! Posted at the same time as nelie. Sorry about that!

tytbody - No, they don't. That's the point. Arch supports actually weaken the muscles and tendons in the foot. You wouldn't put a pillar under an architectural arch to support it would you? It would weaken the arch. Wearing VFFs allows those muscles and tendons to strengthen back up and support the arch like they are naturally designed to.

That being said, I'm dying to get my hands on a pair of these but money keeps getting in the way.

Quail
12-14-2010, 03:22 PM
Thanks for your responses, everyone!

Are you able to run outdoors? Heel/mid/or forefoot strike? I'm working on changing my gait.
Yes, I can run outdoors, but it's so wet that I've been staying inside. It seems like my strike has gone from landing on the ball of my foot to more on my heel then to my toe, if that makes sense. The most noticeable difference is that my knees seems to naturally bend- maybe to absorb impact?

I actually ran a personal best 5k time yesterday. My stride feels very natural and I feel like I am running faster in general. I'm not having any pain except that I had calf pain in the beginning, but that was to be expected --> everyone told me to start slow with short runs when I got them, but even that first mile killed me, lol! No pain after the first week though.

I've only been using them outside and I'm kind of sad for what's going to happen when it starts to snow. I know that there are socks you can get to go with the vibrams, but the bikilas are designed to be a little more snug than the other versions so I don't know if socks would work:(

I had some calf pain, but not nearly as much as I thought I'd have! My speed is so much better, especially on the treadmill. I'm usually so afraid that I'm going to trip on there and smash my face to smithereens. I'm MUCH more steady with the Vibrams. Socks are a no-go for me. They just feel too sung against my toes and actually hurt after awhile.

I want those for exercising at home... do they have any arch support though?
As a few other folks said, no they don't. But I need arch support in normal shoes and found that I absolutely don't need anything like that in my vibrams. It's so weird.

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Anyway, I'm feeling so good right now- having comfortable shoes is such a good incentive to run!

tytbody
12-14-2010, 03:26 PM
I went to three stores to get these today. I did get to try some on but they were the black ones. I want the red ones. I was told to wear red so I'm going for the red.

I went to REI, Eastern Mountain Sports and City Sports. Not one had them in red.

Good thing is, I found my size now I"ll just have to find an authentic dealer on line.

They do feel terrific. The bottoms are really like a tread on a tire. Much more then I could have imagined. They darn well should be though for the price of them puppies.

tytbody
12-14-2010, 04:24 PM
Got some. yea, Got my Chili/pepper ones at Kayak store. Yea. Me. Score!!!!!!! $80

Serval87
12-16-2010, 08:00 AM
I am very interested in those shoes since I hate shoes, and normally try to wear flip-flops or go barefooted year around, but my feet are shaped weird. I am an 8 1/2 with very wide feet. I found an ebay seller selling them for around 35-40 dollars, and would love to get a pair, but I don't know what size I would go for. Any idea?

cheryl126
12-16-2010, 09:02 AM
Vibram has a video showing you how to measure for the proper fit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuuzpz7q0LU&feature=player_embedded

tytbody
12-16-2010, 09:56 AM
They may also run like danskos. Ever try any European style shoe on, that my help. I believe my Danskos are the same size. 38. I wear 7.5.

neon_zephyr
12-16-2010, 06:56 PM
My husband recently bought a pair and loves them! He says they make his ankles feel stronger. He also thinks it feels more natural to wear them. Of course, it takes a little getting used to before you can slip your toes into teh correct spots without double-checking! :) I tried them out and like them, but I found them a little constricting. I love being barefoot or wearing flip flops, but can't do that when I run. I've personally found that at my current weight, running without decent shoes has been really unpleasant. I might try them myself at some point soon and will let you know what I think. However, my husband loves his and recommends them to everyone!

Aclai4067
12-16-2010, 10:27 PM
I didn't read through all the posts, so sorry if I repeat anyone. Runner's World did an article about minimalist shoes a couple months ago. One thing they said it to ease into them. If you are currently wearing thick cusioned shoes, you may want to buy something in between before going to the vibrams or other minimalist shoes. Or at least start out just walking in them a couple hours a week and gradually work up to running in them. Minimalist shoes are great for developing strength and flexibility in your feet, but jumping into them too soon could cause injury.

ETA- Found the article online http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-240-400--13691-0,00.html

Serval87
12-19-2010, 12:53 AM
Do they feel similar to flip flops on the bottom (meaning, the thinness of the flip flops)?

cheryl126
12-19-2010, 08:50 AM
To me they feel thinner than flip flops. I would say that the thinness is more comparable to water shoes if you've ever tried those on

tytbody
12-19-2010, 02:01 PM
I think they are thicker than flimsy flip flops. I don't like flip flops. These have tread like tire,very thick but the inside has foot cup so your heel goes right in. They bend easily bit the sole is much better quality than a flip flop. Want to pay 100 dollars for flip flop material?

nelie
12-19-2010, 02:04 PM
There are also various minimalist running shoes out there. I currently wear Inov-8s which are minimalist shoes although they look like normal shoes.

cheryl126
12-19-2010, 02:34 PM
By the way, I've found the barefoot running forum at Runner's World to be really helpful in answering questions about minimalist shoes and barefoot running in general. The reviews helped me decide to go with the Bikilas, but the KSOs are really popular too. http://www.runnersworld.com/community/forums/runner-communities/barefoot-running

Quail
12-22-2010, 03:05 AM
I have been using mine outside more and more and WOW is there a difference! Definitely bending my knees more and running more on the balls of my feet, instead of my usual flat-footed slap. Also able to run longer outside becuase my feet don't hurt! It's incredible.

Next month I'm buying another pair, probably the KSO trek or something with just a tad more grip on the soles. The ground is always wet and covered with slugs and moss and I found myself slipping a bit.

tytbody
12-22-2010, 10:21 AM
I bet the kso would be better. Are those the ones they show on the web site with the man climbing the rocks..?

Quail
12-22-2010, 05:40 PM
I bet the kso would be better. Are those the ones they show on the web site with the man climbing the rocks..?

I have the KSOs and while they are SUPER confortable, I think the KSO Treks or Bikilas would work just a bit better. I thought I'd use the Bikilas during the wet season and switch to the regular KSOs when it's dry.