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EZMONEY
12-03-2010, 10:06 PM
Some people really go out of their way to express their feelings....

Something tells me these folks need to take an anger management class :D

http://www.nctimes.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/article_312426c7-7d62-53dd-a303-32cd7ea45f51.html


Martina
12-03-2010, 10:22 PM
Well-- there are all sorts of billboards by Christian groups floating around out there-- here in this small North Carolina area, you have tons of them, telling me what a sinner I am for being of a different faith. So how is this any different? I guess I don't see the big deal. People are entitled to put up any faith-based or non-faith based billboards of their choosing.

vdander24
12-03-2010, 10:28 PM
I saw this yesterday. The catholics and atheists are definitely taking their argument to the streets. I was surprised by BOTH the Billboards.


EZMONEY
12-03-2010, 11:23 PM
Well-- there are all sorts of billboards by Christian groups floating around out there-- here in this small North Carolina area, you have tons of them, telling me what a sinner I am for being of a different faith. So how is this any different? I guess I don't see the big deal. People are entitled to put up any faith-based or non-faith based billboards of their choosing.

I never said they weren't entitled to put up the billboard. I never said it was the same or different about any other billboard either.

I did say it appears they are angry about something though....based on the remarks in the story.

Here in southern California we don't usually see billboards on religion...but as far as sinners go....we all fall into that category :)

Martina
12-04-2010, 12:02 AM
I never said they weren't entitled to put up the billboard. I never said it was the same or different about any other billboard either.

I did say it appears they are angry about something though....based on the remarks in the story.

Here in southern California we don't usually see billboards on religion...but as far as sinners go....we all fall into that category :)


I never said you said that. And I did not react to the "anger management" comment. Religion makes many different types of people of many different faiths--or lack of faith-- angry though; so many people feel their side is "right" when to me, all religions are right. Most people don't understand me when I say that, but that is how I feel.

But yeah, here in North Carolina-- not in the cities, but in this little small country bible belt area-- there are tons of billboards like that, and as I said in the other thread (the one about Christmas in this forum) people of other faiths that are not Christian are either run off or beaten up, which is why (as I said in the other thread) I stay quiet about my beliefs (except to the people that I love) and practice my faith in my own home. And there are no people of any other faith here in this area, at least not out in the open.

Rosinante
12-04-2010, 02:29 AM
I don't understand the rage against religion (I'm speaking about the article). Believe, don't believe. There's no need to be vicious.

EZMONEY
12-04-2010, 08:19 AM
MARTINA I apologize for misunderstanding :hug:

I have never driven through the area you are talking about so I am not aware of the billboards. As a I said, here in southern California, religious billboards are rare so I have little experience on the billboards.....sounds like I'm the lucky one :D

However, I can tell you I am aware that Christians can be mean-nasty people sometimes!

In a perfect world all Christians would remember God's House is not an "invitation only" club.....ALL are welcomed to join......

I can see how actions of some would not create interest in you to join the party.

bargoo
12-04-2010, 09:38 AM
I wonder if the people railing against Christmas will accept the day off with pay from work.

islandchick1
12-04-2010, 11:29 AM
There is a similiar group here in the DFW area that have bought ad space on several of the city buses. As offended as one of the other posters is to have christain themed billboards, ect. around, I am offended at these buses. I PERSONALLY strongly feel that is an affront to the Living God. I think the more appropiate thing to do would be to not have any group advertise. The city of Dallas refused this same group, not on the grounds that they are atheists, but rather on their policy for not allowing any groups of any faith (or non faiths) to advertise.

islandchick1
12-04-2010, 11:32 AM
I wonder if the people railing against Christmas will accept the day off with pay from work.

Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

JessLess
12-04-2010, 11:37 AM
I love the First Amendment of the Constitution.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

So in America we have the right to believe, to not believe and to say what we think. It is a very precious right that most of the world does not have. It makes me thankful.

Billboards overall are a bit of an eyesore, though. :D

EZMONEY
12-04-2010, 12:15 PM
Going back to my original post, I want all to know I am not against billboards advertising anything, as long as it isn't offensive to children I suppose.

I am all for free speech and rights for all faiths as long as actions don't harm others.

The following is about a billboard I saw on the news this morning...


cracks me up that people can predict the exact day Jesus will return....

yet they can't predict when they will have to go potty next ;)

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local-beat/Billboard-Promises-Jesus-Will-Return-in-May-111282959.html

bargoo
12-04-2010, 12:38 PM
No one knows when he will return Luke 12:40.

Martina
12-04-2010, 01:05 PM
MARTINA I apologize for misunderstanding :hug:

I have never driven through the area you are talking about so I am not aware of the billboards. As a I said, here in southern California, religious billboards are rare so I have little experience on the billboards.....sounds like I'm the lucky one :D

However, I can tell you I am aware that Christians can be mean-nasty people sometimes!

In a perfect world all Christians would remember God's House is not an "invitation only" club.....ALL are welcomed to join......

I can see how actions of some would not create interest in you to join the party.


:hug: no issues!!! (((HUGS)))

islandchick1
12-07-2010, 11:56 PM
So here's an interesting update in my neck of the woods. In response to the atheists bus campaign here, several local business' have hired the same amount of rolling billboard (billboard on wheels - not sure if ya'll have those where you are at) to follow each of the buses. The rolling billboards say something to the effect of "I still love you - God." The ad also states that 2.1 billion people are good WITH God.

lizziep
12-08-2010, 12:56 AM
i saw this the other day and was pretty offended and i'm not even christian. i feel like these people aren't really atheists, but bitter angry former christians. i think taking any religious symbol and desecrating it as they did is unacceptable. they have a right to do it, i won't argue that, but it's a bad way to get your point across and it makes the rest of us reasonable people look like a-holes.

Coondocks
12-10-2010, 09:59 AM
Some people really go out of their way to express their feelings....

Something tells me these folks need to take an anger management class :D

http://www.nctimes.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/article_312426c7-7d62-53dd-a303-32cd7ea45f51.html

Im not one to get into a religious debate about whos right, whos wrong, whos this whos that. Believe what you want, its not going to change my choices or life what direction some one else takes.
That being said, I have to agree with EZMONEY, there seems to be anger issues there. Declaring war on Christmas? really? That just sounds a bit extreme.
Of course anyone, and everyone, should and is free to express their own thoughts and feelings but there is a way to do it tastefully and respectfully - I think that should be expected of anyone, not just this group, but every group.
I haven't seen the billboard in question, so I'm not going to comment if it's disrespectful - to me it was saying they'll show what a war on christmas looks like. It actually scared me a little.
What is so hard about agreeing to disagree, wishing the other party the best in life and moving on?

mandalinn82
12-10-2010, 12:18 PM
Declaring war on Christmas? really? That just sounds a bit extreme.

The "War on Christmas" term was made popular in the early 2000's by conservative commentators. It was in reference to the removal of "Christmas" from the public sector, and the replacement of references to that with "holiday" (as well as other controversies over public displays of faith-related imagery that arose during that time). It seems like the billboard itself (EZ, do you have a photo?) said "Christmas is a Myth", and in an interview, one of the organizers said "If you are going to say we're declaring a war on Christmas, this is what it would look like". The term didn't originate with the people placing that sign.

EZMONEY
12-10-2010, 04:30 PM
Amanda the photo was removed from the article a day or two after I posted....the billboard wasn't offensive to me....all I remember about it was saying Christmas was a myth....most of my thoughts were with the guy in the article.

lizziep
12-10-2010, 06:17 PM
to me the image was what was offensive, not the statement. It show a beautiful scene- the wisemen coming to visit the baby jesus- and then it made it's comment about it being a myth and this year celebrate reason.
i personally think that image was overkill and took them over the top from people who are expressing their own faith/opinions to angry extremists. the open hostility towards the christian faith seems overboard, leading me to agree- these people are angry and likely former christians themselves. most people i know who are atheists/pagan/whatever who were not christian first do not hold such anger and hatred toward the religion.

EZMONEY
12-10-2010, 07:03 PM
Nice point of view on the billboard LIZZIE...when I said I wasn't offended I think it is because I am used to seeing/hearing stuff like that through out my day from time to time...life.

Obviously, not everyone that calls themselves a christian is one...and even those that are don't act like it all the time...me included....none of us are perfect.

There is a big difference between disagreeing with another persons religion/lifestyle and attacking it. I don't agree with Hanukkah but I can't recall ever attacking it...in fact I participated in the observance several times in my late teens with my high school girlfriend.

lizziep
12-11-2010, 01:41 AM
exactly, EZ, you don't need to attack it because it doesn't have anything to do with you. I don't understand why these "humanists" need to attack Christianity- but no other religious holidays around this time. It just makes them look bad.

kaplods
12-11-2010, 06:19 AM
Can you imagine if everything people thought of as "myth" were to be "debunked" on billboards? There'd have to be a billboard every six inches.

Sorry kids, no toothfairy, no Easter bunny, Mommy and Daddy don't know everything, You can't really be anything you want to be when you grow up, Your artwork sucks, Wrestling isn't real, You're not really as cute or as smart as your parents say you are, Horton didn't really hear a Who...


Not to the mention the strings of billboards "debunking" the "debunking."


"Caffeine (or artificial sweeteners or water consumption or whatever else) is bad for you is a myth,"

"No it Isn't"

"Yes it Is."

"No it Isn't"

"Yes it Is."

"No it Isn't"

"Yes it Is."

"No it Isn't"

"Yes it Is."

EZMONEY
12-11-2010, 07:52 AM
:rofl::rofl::lol3::rofl::rofl:

You're killin' me Colleen!

lizziep
12-11-2010, 02:40 PM
bwahahah i can totally see the "your artwork sucks" billboard with a picture of some childs picture of the square house and stick people depicting their family. hahahaha.

and the "you're not as cute and smart as your parents say you are" in my mind is that picture every parent has of that time their kid got into their dirty diaper and painted the walls. actually- that might work for your artwork sucks too. hmm...

eclipse
12-11-2010, 02:49 PM
Here in southern California we don't usually see billboards on religion...but as far as sinners go....we all fall into that category :)

I dunno - I see plenty of Jesus is the reason for the Season, Jesus is the only reason for the season, and Jesus is the reason for every Season billboards in San Diego. My guess is that the Myth billboard was a direct response to those types - although I probably would have gone with something like "Axial Tilt is the Reason for the Season." It's funnier.:p

EZMONEY
12-11-2010, 08:27 PM
I dunno - I see plenty of Jesus is the reason for the Season, Jesus is the only reason for the season, and Jesus is the reason for every Season billboards in San Diego. My guess is that the Myth billboard was a direct response to those types - although I probably would have gone with something like "Axial Tilt is the Reason for the Season." It's funnier.:p

I hadn't really noticed all the Jesus billboards....I'm usually too busy checking out the ones for the casinos and which 60/70's band is playing for an outrageous ticket price...my bad :)

If I ever have enough $$$ my billboard may read...Jesus Is The REASON For The Axial Tilt :)

Rosinante
12-12-2010, 09:11 AM
i saw this the other day and was pretty offended and i'm not even christian. i feel like these people aren't really atheists, but bitter angry former christians. i think taking any religious symbol and desecrating it as they did is unacceptable. they have a right to do it, i won't argue that, but it's a bad way to get your point across and it makes the rest of us reasonable people look like a-holes.

I want to give you a medal or a hug or both.

I want the right, as a Christian, to be able to display religious Christmas imagery.
Because I want that right, I accept that people of other faiths and no faith have the right to display their religious imagery too, or their imagery/billboards that make clear they do not hold religious belief.

There has to be a way of displaying those imageries and views without attacking or desecrating others' imageries or views. To be just about attack is, frankly, not very grown up.

I don't know about in the States but here in England we're very hot on people's rights to be offensive about faith but non-existent about people of faith's rights not to have their faith ridiculed and, often verbally desecrated.