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sandyfanny
09-25-2010, 01:41 PM
Anybody else read about the new "French Atkins" diet? It's featured as the next big thing in weight loss in September 27 Woman's World
magazine. I bought the magazine, read it; it sounds AWFUL! I'm pretty sure I couldn't do the 1st phase for 6 days. I might hurt somebody. :devil:
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sandyfanny
09-25-2010, 01:45 PM
Here's one of the links I found:

http://blogs.howstuffworks.com/2010/04/21/how-the-dukan-diet-works-the-french-diet-that-is-supposed-to-end-the-obesity-epidemic/

What do we think, Atkins buddies?

Linsy
09-25-2010, 04:29 PM
It sounds awful and bland. I'll stick with high fat Atkins. :D


Zaftig Mama
09-25-2010, 09:35 PM
Sandy, if I had to do this, someone would have to DIE!:devil:


YUCK!! If you take my carbs then for God's sake, leave me some fat!:D

kaplods
09-25-2010, 10:31 PM
Combining very low-fat AND very low-carb can be dangerous (in extremes, it can result in what's called "rabbit starvation" or "protein poisoning" ).

The protein and vegetable days may be enough to prevent that, and the "cheat meal" phase would certainly, but it seems so much more extreme than it has to be.

It reminds me of a diet you can't even mention here, because it gets censored out. The closer you get to zero carb AND zero fat the harder the diet is to stick with, and the less reason than you want to.

I'm not saying that you can't be fat-conscious and follow Atkins or other low-carb diets (they don't have to become the 90% pork fat diet), but restricting it to that degree probably isn't necessary or particularly healthy for most folks.

If you only have a few pounds to lose, I suppose it would be harmless (in that you'ld probably get to the "cheat meal" phase before you would experience the risky symptoms).

If you have a lot to lose, though the lack of variety and the lack of fat/carbs would be unpleasant and possibly even dangerous. (Though the symptoms of rabbit starvation are so severe that I think it would drive most people off the diet before they risked their lives. That was the problem with the other diet I mentioned, the creator told people that those horrible side effects, such as severe dizziness, nausea and diarrhea were normal and signs that the diet was "working").

islandchick1
09-25-2010, 11:12 PM
Anybody else read about the new "French Atkins" diet? It's featured as the next big thing in weight loss in September 27 Woman's World
magazine. I bought the magazine, read it; it sounds AWFUL! I'm pretty sure I couldn't do the 1st phase for 6 days. I might hurt somebody. :devil:
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I believe this is actually the Dukan diet. I bought the same magazine lol. I have seen a thread here on 3FC from the UK regarding it.
It doesn't sound very appealing to me.
Judy

sandyfanny
09-26-2010, 10:01 AM
I appreciate your post...not that I was considering that diet for more than, say, two minutes! There's no way I could stay on a program like that; it just sounds miserable. Your comments regarding its safety make sense. Maybe if you went to Dr. Dukan's office once a week and were monitored carefully and you somehow were committed to the WOE, you might be ok. But certainly NOT HAPPY.

Many of us Atkins chicks have lots of weight to lose, and we don't need to play with our health without close supervision. My doctor couldn't be happier that I'm losing on Atkins, following essentially Induction for the foreseeable future, and walking every day.

Should I just close this thread since it's possibly unhealthy for many of us who have more to lose than 10 or 15 pounds? :hug:

Simona
09-27-2010, 10:12 AM
Dukan is VERY strict - puts me in mind of Stillman - low fat/low carb. I don't think I could do it.

I think I'll stick with Atkins. I like having the fat in my diet. I think Dukan would make me hungry. Atkins keep me full all day long...that's what I love about it.

onelife2live
09-30-2010, 11:03 AM
The French Atkins? Get outta here! It sounds terrible and there are too many rules to remember and follow. It really irritates me that people pull what they want from Atkins and then put their little twist on it. I'm sticking with my bacon and eggs for breakfast! lol:D

L R K
09-30-2010, 11:39 AM
Interesting - I would not say there are too many rules to follow. It sounds simple to me avoid carbs, protein is your friend. However, I am with you all in saying that this is not a way to live, I would be very very mad if I were on this diet. It would def. not be somethig I could stick to. And I imagine it couldn't be too healthy for you.

Nobody should be eating that much meat... it's so wrong

sandyfanny
09-30-2010, 11:51 AM
LaurenA, is that your dog? Love the pic! And is it a Border Collie? Super-cute!

fitkristi
09-30-2010, 12:15 PM
I read that post, and dug around and found that that guy has been following it for 22 weeks now:

http://blogs.howstuffworks.com/2010/09/28/dukan-diet-15/

And he's lost 51lbs on it in 21 weeks - and while that is great for him, that is just shy of 2.5lbs per week, which is attainable for any significantly overweight person following any restrictive diet plan. And that diet sounds NOT like a fun life to me at all.

sandyfanny
09-30-2010, 12:42 PM
Thanks for the post. You bring all that hype "You'll be a stick in 15 minutes" into perspective. No way could I follow that plan; I would HATE it and never stick with it. It sounds NASTY!

Elstyle
09-30-2010, 10:12 PM
Hello all, this "French Atkins" actually got me inspired. I decided to follow the first stage for one week--just to get me started. I find that if I have too many choices I slide off the rails. I have been on it since Monday and it is putting me quickly into ketosis. I will add in the veggies next week and try one total protein day each week. I have been trying to get back on the diet many times and could not stay with it over 2 days. I am now into day 4 and I think this has been a good way to get started.

StephanieM
09-30-2010, 11:04 PM
If you are having trouble staying on it, then it can't be the best diet?

A way of eating, to me, should be something you enjoy that is good for you that you can stick to and still lose weight.

Eating just protein for the 'attack' phase sounds like it would make me vomit.

sandyfanny
10-01-2010, 09:04 AM
Elstyle, I'm all about whatever works and makes you feel good. I wish you every success on your WOE.

Simona
10-01-2010, 09:57 AM
Hello all, this "French Atkins" actually got me inspired. I decided to follow the first stage for one week--just to get me started. I find that if I have too many choices I slide off the rails. I have been on it since Monday and it is putting me quickly into ketosis. I will add in the veggies next week and try one total protein day each week. I have been trying to get back on the diet many times and could not stay with it over 2 days. I am now into day 4 and I think this has been a good way to get started.

I hope you keep posting your progress/results. I find the plan fascinating - especially since Dr. Dukan does stress a lot that his plan is a LIFESTYLE change much like Atkins. It's not a quick fix like many people think low-carb is.

I agree with SandyFanny - I'm all for whatever works for people to get the weight off and be healthier :)

Elstyle
10-07-2010, 12:20 AM
Hi all, I stuck with the French diet for one week. That was all I could take. But it did get me going and I find I am more careful with my carbs and drinking my water. I introduced veggies this week and small amounts of butter and cream. Wow did they taste good! Now I am trying to decide which day for a total protein day each week just to keep on track. I don't see how anyone could stay on the French thing for long!

sandyfanny
10-07-2010, 06:36 PM
Elstyle, how much did you lose in your week on the "French"? I'm just curious; I don't think I could do it for a day.

Elstyle
10-08-2010, 09:40 PM
Hi sandy,
I lost 7 pounds, but I know a lot was water weight. The good thing is that losing that helped me have more energy! So now I am doing Atkins induction and I felt like I got a good start. I was very glad to get to induction!!!

sandyfanny
10-08-2010, 09:43 PM
Congratulations on your weight loss! I'll bet Atkins Inductions is down-right delicious...welcome.

chouchoubou
10-08-2010, 11:48 PM
Hi- I've been away form 3fc for a few weeks but I'm on the Dukan Diet. It's not really that awful. Its about as bad as creating a new habit of eating. Which you also have to do for Atkins. yes they are similar. If you see other posts about Dukan you'll find that I'm not super strict to the T to the rules but I have lost a considerable amount of weight this year. I went off plan for the last few weeks but now I'm back in with both feet! :)

sarahinparis
10-11-2010, 12:14 PM
I live in Paris & the Dukan thing has been big here for several years - well, at least selling a lot of books and magazines, I don't know anyone personally who has followed it.

Personally, I find a general low carb (high fat) diet really easy to live with here in France since the food is pretty easy to find at any decent restaurant and it means not having to pass up all the sauces & cheese... Good luck finding real low-fat food at a French restaurant.

Like some of the others said, I feel that if it works for you, that's great, but for me the whole benefit of the lower carb way of eating is that you are eating foods that are satisfying and taste good (because of the fat).