100 lb. Club - Is there any sense "starting over" in the middle of the afternoon?




Truffle
08-18-2010, 02:44 PM
If there's a point you hit where you're just disgusted and miserable being trapped in a "fat suit", I hit it just a few minutes ago.

I HATE trying to live at this size, because it's just EXISTING, not really LIVING.

I'm sure I've already eaten WAY over any calorie range I could have today, so is there any sense "starting over" right now, striking while the iron is hot?

I usually start over the next day, but that leaves too much of this day left to eat even more before starting.

It's probably pretty silly to head over to Spark People and start inputting what I eat for the rest of the day--but then again, maybe it's not... :D


mandalinn82
08-18-2010, 02:58 PM
Well, the way I see it, you can either decide to "start over" RIGHT THIS SECOND, saving yourself the calories you'd eat by remaining out of control today, or you can decide to continue being out of control and start tomorrow.

Given that the difference can be hundreds of calories, I think starting over now is a really good idea! No time like the present!

AlyssaMcN
08-18-2010, 03:01 PM
I think starting over now would be a great idea! I can't count the number of times I've said, "I'll start tomorrow", and one thing or another happened that kept me from starting. So if you start now, tomorrow when you wake up, you can feel good knowing you've already started being a healthier person.

Do whatever will give you the best start!


LiliK
08-18-2010, 03:03 PM
I started in the middle of a day, too. Just start. If you're ready, you're ready. It's not like there's a penalty for starting mid-day or anything. We're talking about a change of behavior for the better and a new attitude about your health, which is a big deal!! You GO!! Make the most healthy choices you can for the rest of the day. Log them. And then just keep making the most healthy choices.

Onederchic
08-18-2010, 03:07 PM
Well, the way I see it, you can either decide to "start over" RIGHT THIS SECOND, saving yourself the calories you'd eat by remaining out of control today, or you can decide to continue being out of control and start tomorrow.

Given that the difference can be hundreds of calories, I think starting over now is a really good idea! No time like the present!

I agree.

mandalinn82
08-18-2010, 03:07 PM
Or, to put it another way, is there really ANY reason not to start right now? I mean, what's the negative consequence of starting to make good choices immediately? There are clearly negative consequences to continuing to make poor choices, including lots of extra calories consumed...but what's the consequence the other way?

cfmama
08-18-2010, 03:21 PM
Start RIGHT THIS SECOND. I could easily eat another 5000 calories from the middle of the day on... ESPECIALLY if I was trying to eat all the "bad" foods that I knew I wouldn't allow myself to have anymore... try to get them all in while I could you know!!!

So start now. And remember that you can do this. We all can do this. It's not rocket science... it is hard but it is rewarding. And you'll never kick yourself for beginning RIGHT NOW!

SilverLife
08-18-2010, 03:34 PM
Truffle, I agree with the others, right now is the very best time. It will spare you more pain, and help you feel much better about yourself, and get you making progress!

You are worth taking good care of! I'm so glad you posted.

Am sending you lots of good thoughts. :hug:

Truffle
08-18-2010, 03:39 PM
Start RIGHT THIS SECOND. I could easily eat another 5000 calories from the middle of the day on... ESPECIALLY if I was trying to eat all the "bad" foods that I knew I wouldn't allow myself to have anymore... try to get them all in while I could you know!!!

I could easily eat that many more calories before bed tonight too!

Thank you all for the replies. I am starting now, and will enter my supper on Spark People.

I'm one of those "all or nothing" people, so I always feel I have to start over in the morning with a "clean slate".

But no time like the present, right? :D

time2lose
08-18-2010, 03:41 PM
I agree with the others, start right now. Do more than eat correctly today. Take the time today to plan your food for the next few days. Throw out any foods that you have that will tempt you to eat off plan. Go grocery shopping for the good foods you need to have on hand. Read some success stories here to help you get in a "can do" mood. Go read the success stories on the Joy Fit club.

Use today, don't wait for tomorrow! I am going to be looking for a post from you tomorrow telling us what you did today to make your life better!

SCraver
08-18-2010, 04:21 PM
I'm one of those "all or nothing" people, so I always feel I have to start over in the morning with a "clean slate".

Think of it this way - you are officially starting tomorrow, but using the rest of today as practice! :D

cb1
08-18-2010, 04:23 PM
I guess I am not supposed to be in this forum (?) but I wanted to mention I started in the middle of an afternoon. I was so sick of being fat. That night I just had a baked chicken breast and steamed broccoil for dinner, even though I was over my calories already, but it was an empowering choice for me, and then the next day I started counting calories and making healthy choices. If I hadn't done that I might've given up.... who knows? Because an unhealthy dinner can turn into an unhealthy breakfast... etc... "oh i'll start tomorrow" "oh i'll start next week" "oh i'll start next month." those were all excuses I kept telling myself! And it was negative thinking because it was telling me that I was so out of control that I couldn't take control *right now*!

A healthy choice is any time, anywhere. you can still exercise and make a healthy eating choice TODAY. Counting calories or carbs is not the only healthy decision to make in a day - we can make all kinds of unhealthy decisions all the time. It's never too early or too late to make your next choice a healthy and empowering one.

bargoo
08-18-2010, 04:28 PM
Start right now !

Arctic Mama
08-18-2010, 04:56 PM
Absolutely start right now! I believe the only reason I have lost this weight and kept it off is because I view EVERY SINGLE MEAL as another chance to make a good choice, no matter how many bad choices I have made prior. Even in the middle of a bite, I can choose to either continue or put down my fork and walk away.

Starting tomorrow, Monday, New Years, etc etc, is just giving myself more time to make excuses and indulge today, make bad choices today, by holding myself continually accountable, I never let myself get into the all or nothing mindset that would defeat me! Its just all part of the journey, and one I am committed to for the rest of my life. Nothing is an excuse, not pregnancy or vacations, stress, you name it. If I DO take a break, it is just that, a break, maintenance, not on or off a diet.


I guess what I am trying to say is that the BEST time to start is now, the next choice you come upon, because it doesn't leave you room to wiggle around with motivation, perfect timing, and all the other things that will never be ideal. It keeps me accountable and takes the pressure off at the very same time - accountable, because every choice matters, and takes the pressure off, because every choice is another chance to WIN!


:hug:

caryesings
08-18-2010, 05:10 PM
Not only start now, but make sure you log everything that you ate earlier today. It's easy to log when you're eating on plan, a lot harder when you have to see those numbers when you've gone off course. If you let yourself not log whenever it's going to be ugly, it gets really easy to stop logging or to "eat all the bad food today" while not logging. Your body counts it even if you don't record it.

kaplods
08-18-2010, 05:27 PM
I think "starting over" is a concept that we need to get rid of. There is no starting over, there's just moving on. So do you really want to postpone getting on with your life (the life you're trying to build for yourself), or do you want to wallow in your mistakes for a while. Maybe make a few more whoppers to dig that hole just a little deeper before you start climbing out.

Doesn't sound so great when you put it that way, does it? It's become "traditional" to binge before a diet. It's also traditional to believe that dieting must be done perfectly, and if you make a mistake (no matter how small) why that means "you blew it" and the appropriate response is to eat like a maniac until you can "start fresh" being perfect tomorrow morning. Unless of course your mistake happens on a Thursday or Friday - then you have permission to gorge all weekend and "start fresh" on Monday.

It's an unwritten game we're taught to play, and we follow the rules without questioning them, because it's just the way dieting "is done" in our culture. Problem is it's a game that doesn't work - no one wins it, except by refusing to play by "the rules" we've all been handed.

To win, you have to break the rules. You have to make new ones, ones that will get you where you want to be, and "blowing it," then bingeing and "starting fresh" those are all the "old rules" the ones that don't work.

Every mouthful is a choice that can help or hurt you - so which is your next mouthful going to do. Is it going to get you closer to your goal, or move it further away.

I titled my 3FC Blog "Starting Over, Take 1847," and I regret it, because I learned (shortly after creating the blog) that there is no starting over. I've been dieting since I was 5 years old, I'm 44 years old now, and I realized that the concept of "starting over" has been my biggest obstacle. If I had understood from the beginning that even "failing" isn't starting over, IF you learn from the mistakes instead of deciding to mess up even more and start fresh tomorrow. It usually isn't the days honest mistakes that set you back it's the "might as well stuff my face all night so I can get it out of my system and start fresh tomorrow."

When there is no starting over, just moving on, you ask yourself which direction do you want to go backwards or forwards.

I constantly use the climbing analogy. If you're rock climbing and you slip and fall - do you keep climbing or do you throw yourself to the bottom of the canyon, so that you can "start over?"

The choice is obvious and yet it's not the choice we're "taught" to make. We're taught to throw ourselves to the bottom of the canyon - you can see why so few people ever make it to the top. Break the rules so you can get where you want to be.

TJFitnessDiva
08-18-2010, 06:37 PM
Well, the way I see it, you can either decide to "start over" RIGHT THIS SECOND, saving yourself the calories you'd eat by remaining out of control today, or you can decide to continue being out of control and start tomorrow.

Given that the difference can be hundreds of calories, I think starting over now is a really good idea! No time like the present!

I agree 100%! :)

boots
08-18-2010, 07:08 PM
Whenever I mess up midday, I don't actually let the carry-over affect the rest of my day. I learned from monitoring my blood sugar levels while pregnant to consider each and every meal as a separate entity, so I don't give myself an overall daily calorie allowance. I pick an overall daily calorie allowance, then divide by three (roughly) and then give each and every meal its allotted calories. So usually for me, 3-400 calories per meal (with extra calories divied up for snacks inbetween).

So in a sense, if I screw up a meal, I "Start Over" for the next meal. I don't detract calories from dinner because I ate too many at lunch. Nor do I add calories for lunch if I eat a smaller breakfast. It was easy to see this with monitoring my blood sugar, how each and every meal needs to be treated separately, not days to be treated separately.

i.e. if you're going to organize your calorie intakes and separate it to visualize in your head, don't look at the next three days as:

Monday 1500 calories
Tuesday 1500 calories
Wednesday 1500 calories


look at it like:
Monday breakfast 400 calories, lunch 400 calories, dinner 400 calories
Tuesday breakfast 400 calories, lunch 400 calories, dinner 400 calories
Wednesday breakfast 400 calories, lunch 400 calories, dinner 400 calories


so I guess what I'm trying to say, is you have NINE opportunities to "start over correctly" looking at your calorie control the second way, instead of looking at your calorie control the first way where you only have 3 opportunities to start clean.


It also helps (in my head) to isolate the screw up to only 1/9 meals instead of 3/9 meals.

Its worked for me, like I said, I learned to think this way from sugar control and a finger pricker and lots of blood (literally!). It really helped me visually see the affects of one meal on my body chemistry. Great and painful experience for my nutrition control.

Its also good in just developing healthy habits, instead of gorging at one meal and starving yourself the next. If I gorge at one meal, I then "start over" and stick to the plan the next meal. If I skip a meal for some reason, I don't gorge at the next, I just stick to the plan. Each meal is in itself a goal and an opportunity to meet my goals for THAT meal.


Good luck!

shannonmb
08-18-2010, 07:37 PM
I'm so glad you decided to start today! Now you can wake up in the morning with the feeling "I'm so glad I started this yesterday, now let's keep it going today" instead of "oh no, time to START this" or even worse, "one more day, THEN I'll start". You started already! Make tomorrow just a continuation of what good you've already got going on! ;) And I agree with caryesings, log what you ate earlier in the day, too! Accountability!

hhichick
08-18-2010, 08:06 PM
Absolutely, as the others have said, start right now. Right this very minute.

Every calorie counts. It's not like there is some magical binge fairy who will make any calories eaten today not count as long as you pinkie swear to start back "on plan" tomorrow. One of the things that took me way too long to wrap my head around is that every thing I eat is "on plan" - and it's up to me to make sure my plan is a good plan.

It sounds like you've had all the food your body needs today and that the best plan would be to give eating a rest until tomorrow. :)

Truffle
08-18-2010, 08:18 PM
Starting tomorrow, Monday, New Years, etc etc, is just giving myself more time to make excuses and indulge today, make bad choices today, by holding myself continually accountable, I never let myself get into the all or nothing mindset that would defeat me! Its just all part of the journey, and one I am committed to for the rest of my life. Nothing is an excuse, not pregnancy or vacations, stress, you name it. If I DO take a break, it is just that, a break, maintenance, not on or off a diet.


Not only start now, but make sure you log everything that you ate earlier today. It's easy to log when you're eating on plan, a lot harder when you have to see those numbers when you've gone off course. If you let yourself not log whenever it's going to be ugly, it gets really easy to stop logging or to "eat all the bad food today" while not logging. Your body counts it even if you don't record it.

Amen to both of these---and thank you all for the encouragement!

katkitten
08-18-2010, 09:23 PM
I am always MOST successful when I make a decision and change immediately. 8 years ago, I was a chain smoker who was desperately trying to quit. I would always make it a few days-a week and then buy a pack. And every time I quit, I tried to do it at the "perfect time": a weekend where I had no responsibilities, a weekday where I'd be so busy I wouldnt think about cigs as much....whatever I deemed the perfect circumstances at that moment. One day I realized that there WAS no perfect moment/circumstance and, even if there was, that moment won't last long enough to STAY quit. So I looked at the cigarette I was holding in my hand and put it out. I crushed the rest of the pack and haven't smoked since.
So I say go for it!

19Deltawifey
08-18-2010, 09:35 PM
Kaplods- as always I so agree with everything you said, if only I could write my thoughts that well.

Windchime
08-18-2010, 09:37 PM
So many good points were made in this thread! Every single decision we make matters. Every single one. The meals we ate earlier in the day are gone; we can't do anything about that. Except for things that people with eating disorders do, but we don't want that. So let's consider those decisions over. Done. In the past. All we ever have is the decision that we are facing for this meal, this snack, this moment in time when we could either exercise or not. Sometimes we don't make the best decisions; OK, that's done. Let's learn from that and make a better decision next time. I don't agree with the crowd that says, "Don't worry about it; it doesn't matter". Because they all matter. So for me, the most productive thing to do is to analyze WHY I made the bad decision, and come up with a plan of how I can avoid that circumstance next time. Usually it all comes down to planning.

So. That's the long-winded way of saying that I agree it's best to start now. Because that's all we have. Now. Planning to start tomorrow is like making an excuse to continue making bad decisions for the rest of the day (or week, or month, or.......)

Congratulations to you as you start this journey--I know you will succeed as you continue to make good decisions!