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Sandi Pants
08-03-2010, 05:18 PM
Hi, I went in for my consultation today. The program sounds a little too good to be true, so I'm a bit skeptical. Does anyone have any advice or comments to put my mind at ease before I decide.

I've read a lot of good reviews, but I've also read that the menu keeps you on about 800-cal/day, which doesn't sound healthy. I've tried everything out there and I'm tired of quick-fixes that work until you stop, then you end up gaining all your weight back. I'm ready for a complete over-haul. Is this the right program for that?


Hvnlymzic
08-03-2010, 09:46 PM
Sandi - The nice thing about this program (if you do it and stick to it) is that the weight comes off. They have a process at the end called stabilization and maintenance where they teach you how to add foods back in at the end and without this, yes you would gain your weight back.

What I like best about MRC, well, there are several things...but I like that it has taught me how to eat. Even when I eat things that are off program I find myself thinking of the type of food i'm eating...protein, carb, veggies, etc. This plan has taught me how to balance when I eat. It's not magic and not something I couldn't have learned somewhere else, this is just where I learned it.

I also like that this plan uses mostly real food...lean meat, veggies and fruit are the main staplese of this diet. No special food to buy.

They will try to sell you lots of supplements, but you don't have to have anything from them other than the drinks. Everything else you can either live without or buy elsewhere.

Ask questions if you have them...we'll try to answer.

dkmd27
08-04-2010, 01:32 AM
Hi, I went in for my consultation today. The program sounds a little too good to be true, so I'm a bit skeptical. Does anyone have any advice or comments to put my mind at ease before I decide.

I've read a lot of good reviews, but I've also read that the menu keeps you on about 800-cal/day, which doesn't sound healthy. I've tried everything out there and I'm tired of quick-fixes that work until you stop, then you end up gaining all your weight back. I'm ready for a complete over-haul. Is this the right program for that?


Hi Sandi .... the program is very restrictive, expensive (and the expense continues through the whole program, as you are required to drink 3-4 protein drinks a day) and, as you noted ... it's low-cal, low-carb, low-sodium, low-fat. Like any other diet program .... it will only work if you stick to it. And like any other program, that means finishing the program, the stabilization and the maintenance part. And also like any other diet programs ... the percentages of people who actually keep the weight off over the long run are not great.

I've lost and gained the weight twice now, so working on round #3. That's no one's fault but my own ... and I'm still not convinced this is the way for me, but at this point, I don't know what else to do. Weight loss is such an individual and emotional thing and there are so many factors that go into it. You will need to decide what you feel you will do. The weight loss (depending on how much you have to lose) pretty much mimics any other program, in that you lose quite a bit quickly, but when you average it out over the course of your program, it usually falls in the 1.5-3 pound per week average by the end.

Good luck with your decision -- it's a big one.


sclingman
08-04-2010, 01:45 AM
My husband and I went in for a consultation today. My husband needs approval from his physician to start the program (he has blood clotting issues), but I'm thinking of starting it now. She said it would be $298 to lose 50 pounds in 17 weeks, and it looks like its about $100 a month for the drinks and vitamins/supplements. She seemed to talk in circles and never really got down to the program itself, just saying I had to drink the supplements 4 times a day. Is that in addition to regular food? She got defensive when I asked if I could buy the vitamins somewhere else and that the other vitamins/oil weren't as good as theirs. She said I would be on a 950-1000 calorie a day diet. We filled out all the paperwork, but she didn't really go over it. I want to get REAL advice from people who have tried it and succeeded. OF course she's is going to mention success stories, but aren't those names confidential? Any and ALL advice is appreciated. Back in 2004 I lost 40 and my husband lost almost 100, but I ran into medical issues (long, long, long, story), so the weight came back and brought friends. -Susan

MEEZOOGIRL
08-04-2010, 10:08 AM
The program is like everyone said. Low-fat/Low-Carb/Lean protein/veggies. You do have to drink the drinks. Anywhere from 3 to 5 a day depending on your starting weight. I do not buy anything from the center except the drinks. They push their vitamins, but you can get them much cheaper. I buy mine at GNC or Target. I used to take a few of the supplements, but I don't anymore. It's just not worth the cost to me.

I had a blood Clot and so far the only thing I can't take that they sell is the MRC-6. Something in there effects the blood, so they don't want me to take it.

They will keep most of the program a secret until you go to the food class.. Then they give you all the information at once. It's a bit confusing to start out with. Everyone on this board is great with info and ideas. We all do the program, but a little different.

Good Luck!! The program does work if you stick with it...

STEPHANIES36
08-04-2010, 02:17 PM
Meezoogirl hit the nail on the head!!! I started June 28, 2010. I had 28 lbs. to loose and knew that I needed to be accountable to something and someone! I weighed in Saturday at day 33 and had lost 12 lbs. and 17 inches total. I don't cheat or go off plan, however, it is not really that difficult! The first week I wanted to hurt someone because it was hard. The lady at the center explained that I was truly detoxifying my body, so it was a definite shock for me. But once over that hump, it just depends on how bad you want it! I have loved this program. I know that I can not sustain it forever, but look forward to the stabilization and maintenance part of it! You'll do fine with the support of everyone here!

sclingman
08-04-2010, 04:01 PM
Thanks for the information. I think that's crap about detoxifying your body; that's what the skin, kidneys, liver and colon are for. I'm thinking of starting it and buying the supplements first, but when I run out, buying them somewhere else.

GoalAug2010
08-04-2010, 04:09 PM
When they say detoxification, it's not in a scientific sense as much as habitual sense. If you eat processed foods every day, your body always has processed foods in it. However, if you go on program and cut out all the extra sodium, extra sugar, processed foods and most dairy out of your body, after a couple days, you're at a fresh start.

Thats why the first week is hard because you're changing your habits.

shannysmomma
08-04-2010, 10:36 PM
Thanks for the information. I think that's crap about detoxifying your body; that's what the skin, kidneys, liver and colon are for. I'm thinking of starting it and buying the supplements first, but when I run out, buying them somewhere else.

I bought my first round of supplements there also, but have found them cheaper at other places. There is a lot of good info & advice here. Everybody is so helpful when you need advice. I have been doing this since the beginning of may & feel like I have been doing very well. It is really easy if you are organized & plan ahead. I make up a few meals at a time so I will always have something I should eat in the fridge if I'm on the go. I feel like I eat way more than I should, but I keep losing. I like the center because the classes they provide are full of great information. I have tried other diets, but this one is so different. We all know what we should do, but with the help & support from the ladies at the center it makes is so much easier. I also like the accountability aspect of it. The things I don't really like are the fact that it is expensive & they try to push their products. I have learned how to not make it a struggle with the cost just by purchasing things elsewhere & when they ask me if I need products I tell them I have plenty.

Good luck. Just stay focused you can do it!!!

sclingman
08-04-2010, 10:49 PM
The one other thing that bothered me is when they did the body composition. She didn't clean the scale at all before I got on without shoes and socks. So unprofessional. Hope I don't get athletes' foot from someone.....:)

Sandi Pants
08-05-2010, 12:11 AM
Thank you all for your thoughts and comments!

I went back in today armed with my husband. 2 reasons for that...#1 he wants to lose about 80lbs and I thought if we could do this together, we'd have a better chance of succeeding; #2 he's a straight shooter and I wanted to make sure I wasn't looking through rose-colored glasses and getting the wool pulled over my eyes.

It caught me by surprise when they actually recommended he only lose about 60lbs, which he's happy about. I figured they would try to talk us into losing as much weight as possible in order to stay on the program for a long as possible. Also, they told me I was only required to drink 2 drinks a day, 3 for him. Are different centers run differently?

Anyway, after the consult, my hubs and I talked it over with each other...at lunch.....over pizza (we're horrible), and we decided that if it'll teach us how to eat right and make healthy decisions and if it'll help me with my self-confidence, then it's worth it. So we'll both be signing up on Friday!

I'm really excited to get started but also very nervous. 27 years of deep-south, deep-fried eating will be going out the window along with my coke addiction and insatiable hankering for chips and dip. Hopefully, a few lbs will be going out that window, too!

I will definitely be here looking for advice and support so I'm glad I'm not alone out there!!!

Goose
08-05-2010, 12:47 AM
The one other thing that bothered me is when they did the body composition. She didn't clean the scale at all before I got on without shoes and socks. So unprofessional. Hope I don't get athletes' foot from someone.....:)

Ewww. My center always cleaned the scale. I'd definitely ask next time if they don't clean it. No point in risking it!!!!

Auntieb
08-05-2010, 01:30 AM
Good luck, Sandi Pants, I don't think either of you will be sorry. I have not heard of anyone who only needed to drink two nutritional drinks (HNS). My daughter is in stabilization and she still needs three daily.
If you don't have other family members to cook for, clean out your cabinets and give away everything canned or processed. It will be too old to use when you start eating those items again (if you do) and it is so much easier when there is no temptation in the house.
I think they give you a very favorable weight loss estimate; most of us lose only 1.5-2 pounds weekly. Say you do lose 2 pounds weekly, that's 35 pounds; after that investment you won't want to quit, so you will sign up for additional weeks for more $$$.
It does work but it is expensive even if you only buy the drinks. Also you will feel really good because you are eating healthy foods!

MEEZOOGIRL
08-05-2010, 09:03 AM
Good Luck Sandi.. The first few days are tough.. My hardest thing was to give up Coke Zero.. I love it.. Still do.. I just don't drink it. I keep diet Rite on hand for when I feel the soda need. Once you get all you water in, there isn't a lot of room left to drink other stuff.. The amount of drinks depends on your starting weight. As you loose, they cut back on stuff...

I like that they are a little conservative on their loss estimates. It makes me think I can actually do it. I'm never going to weigh 120 lbs like WWatchers said I should. This makes me feel like I can do it. And if you get down there, they will let you move your goal if you want.

Once you get through the first week or so, you'll be good to go.. Good Luck!! Hope to see you around the board..

hatethesweatpants
08-05-2010, 09:49 AM
I'm really excited to get started but also very nervous. 27 years of deep-south, deep-fried eating will be going out the window along with my coke addiction and insatiable hankering for chips and dip. Hopefully, a few lbs will be going out that window, too!

I will definitely be here looking for advice and support so I'm glad I'm not alone out there!!!

Yea, you! You won't regret it. I have gone from rock bottom - docs were talking about depression meds - to active and full of joy in 3.5 months. Never thought I would feel this great again! Be prepared - the first few weeks are pretty brutal with cravings and feeling deprived from giving up all of your favorite foods. If you can get over the hump (and you have your hubby to help keep you accountable!), you're going to be better off and the cravings will diminish. Just don't go off plan! Those hankerings for chips will go away. When we go out to eat, they can actually set the bread basket right in front of me and I just smile and push it to my bronze Adonis husband to eat. It smells good and I would love to have a slice, but I don't HAVE to have a slice. 3 months ago, I would have never had that power.

So, good job and we can't wait to start seeing your results!

AngelaB
08-05-2010, 12:50 PM
Sandi, Congrats on making the decision to start the program! It definitely works if you stick to it, and I feel like I am totally learning how to make better choices for when I am done with the program!

Debi, that's great that you are feeling happy and full of joy! Awesome!!

dkmd27
08-05-2010, 04:51 PM
Thank you all for your thoughts and comments!

It caught me by surprise when they actually recommended he only lose about 60lbs, which he's happy about. I figured they would try to talk us into losing as much weight as possible in order to stay on the program for a long as possible. Also, they told me I was only required to drink 2 drinks a day, 3 for him. Are different centers run differently?

Don't get too comfortable with the amount of weight they told you you have to lose. The first time I got VERY frustrated when I got to within 8 pounds of my goal and all of a sudden they added another 20 pounds to that 8. It's based on your body comp readings on their scale, not the weight. I quit and gained a lot back. So just be prepared for that possibility. (I think if they would have told me that was a possibility, I would have done better with it, but they didn't, just went along the whole way encouraging me that I was almost there, then all of a sudden, they added more.... I was pissed!).

And I,too, have never heard of anyone only drinking two drinks (except when they were phasing out after having lost the weight) -- it's generally 3-4.

You might want to clarify those things.

Sandi Pants
08-05-2010, 06:11 PM
And I,too, have never heard of anyone only drinking two drinks (except when they were phasing out after having lost the weight) -- it's generally 3-4.

You might want to clarify those things.

I asked her directly multiple times, because I've been reading up and never read anything below 3 drinks. She said specifically 2 for me (each time I asked) and 3 for my hubs. She said that's exactly what her and her hubs did when they were on it. I'll be sure to ask again before I sign.
My goal is 40lbs. According to the body reading printout, my target weight is 150, but I'm aiming for 140. Not sure if that affects the amount of drinks you're required to consume a day.

Anyone taking the MRC-6? If so, do you notice a difference?

guinevere75
08-05-2010, 06:40 PM
Your current weight and the amount of weight you need to lose does affect the number of drinks you take in - but it seems weird that she only says 2 for you. I had to lose 53 lbs, so it's 4/day for me. You're not too far from that - so if anything, I would gather you'd need at least 3. I think if you're over 200 lbs and have close to 100 lbs to lose, they generally have you taking in as many as 5/day (from what I can ascertain from reading other peoples posts). But you're starting at about my same weight (178 for me), so it seems really strange to me that she would only recommend 2. On the bright side, that sure as heck will be alot cheaper! You'll be going through half as many boxes as I do!

MRC-6 - I took it the first month and stopped taking it the second month. It had zero negative impact on my results to stop taking it - so no, I didn't notice any difference whatsoever and I won't be repurchasing. If you want to try it, there is a slightly cheaper version called KLB5 that you can get at Bariatric Foods online (I think).

hatethesweatpants
08-06-2010, 08:35 AM
MRC-6 - I took it the first month and stopped taking it the second month. It had zero negative impact on my results to stop taking it - so no, I didn't notice any difference whatsoever and I won't be repurchasing. If you want to try it, there is a slightly cheaper version called KLB5 that you can get at Bariatric Foods online (I think).

I noticed that the main ingredient is B6, so I will be replacing my MRC6 with B6 when I run out and see how that works.

theycallmemom
08-06-2010, 10:16 AM
Good luck Sandi Pants! Lots of great advice here!!! Hope everyone has a great Friday!!!! woot woot yup its FRIDAY:carrot:

AngelaB
08-06-2010, 12:36 PM
I just switched over to the green menu when I made it to below 200...and it says that I am required to have 2 HNS per day, and I have the option to add 2 more, for a total of 4. So I am only required to have 2. Previously I was required to have 3, and could add two more if I wanted/needed.

shannysmomma
08-06-2010, 01:53 PM
I was taking MRC-6 also & at my last body comp/measurements I noticed that I wasn't really losing more inches like they said I would if I took it. I told them yesterday that I wasn't going to take it anymore because I didn't see the 2 inch loss for every 1 pound loss. They did try to get me to buy the progesterone cream. I was told it would help me because of my crazy levels of hormones from my saliva test & that it would help with my stomach area which is the one that is not slimming as fast as the rest of me. I did do a little research on it & I'm pretty sure I will get it. Has anyone else used it? What are your thoughts on the cream?

Good job to everyone!!! You can do anything you set your mind to!!
Have a great weekend!! I will be thinking about y'all on my 24 hour Relay For Life walk tomorrow morning!!!

hmsnow
08-06-2010, 09:50 PM
I just started the program 2 weeks ago (I am on day 7 of the program) and have lost 10.5 pounds so far and am really excited about that. It has been good so far but it does get hard when my husband is chowing down on pizza and I am sitting there eating my chicken breast, salad and a slice of bread. I am on the green menu and am only required 2 HNS a day but I after I upped it to 4 a day I seem to be losing faster. Since I never have the money to buy 10 boxes at a time I end up spending $48 a week on the HNS. I don't take any of the supplements, I take my own prenatal vitamins, fish oil and flax seed oil since I had already been taking them before I started. My goal weight is 145 which is lower than the weight range they gave me because of my muscle mas.

The hardest thing for me was cutting back on working out. They told me I can work out a max of 200 min a week when I was working out closer to 550 min a week before I started, so I am sure I will lose some of my muscle.

AngelaB
08-09-2010, 12:15 PM
Good job on your 10.5!! It is hard to watch someone eat something yummy while you are staying on plan, but I found that it gets easier as it goes along.

Sandi Pants
08-09-2010, 01:08 PM
What are some of the meals like? I haven't gotten my menu yet so I'm anxious to find out what I'll be able to eat. From the sounds of it....very little. :(

quietstorm970
08-09-2010, 11:06 PM
I was on metabolic for only a month but I think its a good program for people who don't have too much difficulty with a very restricted diet, if you don't stay on track, it will take longer to lose & on this plan and time is of the essence since time costs money. I actually fell off because I was in the wrong environment, I got bored, and it was expensive. Like some of the others said, forget the supplements (cortitrim, mrc6, enhancer, etc.). Get your flax seed oil from a health food store. They will try to push every supplement available on you but you do not really need them. The drinks are the only important ones.

When I signed up I got a cookbook so you can use some of the supplements with some foods from the grocery store and make some delicious foods. I used to love the faux cheesecake for breakfast. It may seem like little food but you will NOT be hungry, just remember to stay away from foods that may possibly tempt you. I may go back to loosely following this for a month because it simply worked and the weight came off steadily.

Also, I'm not sure about how your location is ran but take advantage of some of the support group meetings in addition to your weigh in visits. Become friends with the people that work at your location. This made my experience enjoyable. I still to this day wonder how my MRC people are doing even though I have not been there in a year or two.

Good Luck!!!! Good advise has been given in this thread already. You can definitely do it!

sclingman
08-21-2010, 02:32 AM
I'm on Day 7 (blue menu). Can hardly wait to add back cottage cheese! I've lost a total of 4.5 pounds. Our center requires that we attend 6 classes, but if you register for 4 within a 4 week span, you get 2 weeks added for free to the end of your program. My husband isn't completely following the program (no supplements or HNS) but he's losing weight too, which he's happy about. We have our physicals in October so he is going to ask his doctor if he can do the program (on wafarin).
I do have to laugh though, because none of the staff at my center (Aurora, CO) are medical personnel, but they act so professional with the blood pressure cuff and stethescope!
One thing I've noticed is you have to ocassionally remind them you are in charge. My counselor the first day got all authorative, but when my husband walked out, it brought her back down and she let her guard down (which was his purpose).

sclingman
08-21-2010, 02:43 AM
What are some of the meals like? I haven't gotten my menu yet so I'm anxious to find out what I'll be able to eat. From the sounds of it....very little. :(

I'm on Day 7 (Days 5-8-blue): Today - breakfast: 1 egg, 1/2 orange or 1/4 cantaloup, 1 slice breed, lunch: 4 oz meat (fish, chicken, turkey, tuna), 8 oz. salad; dinner: 4 oz. meat, 4 oz. cooked veggies, slice bread. If you can, buy the fiber beverage. It can really help when you are starving.


Good luck! I'm looking forward to the next menu, which I get to start Tuesday. I'll be able to add the meal replacement bars, I like to have a bar before working out.

Sandi Pants
08-21-2010, 03:14 AM
I'm on Day 7 (Days 5-8-blue): Today - breakfast: 1 egg, 1/2 orange or 1/4 cantaloup, 1 slice breed, lunch: 4 oz meat (fish, chicken, turkey, tuna), 8 oz. salad; dinner: 4 oz. meat, 4 oz. cooked veggies, slice bread. If you can, buy the fiber beverage. It can really help when you are starving.


Good luck! I'm looking forward to the next menu, which I get to start Tuesday. I'll be able to add the meal replacement bars, I like to have a bar before working out.

It's so weird how different centers have different systems. I was on the yellow menu for Days 1-4. Now I'm on the blue menu for Days 5-10, and then I'll get a new menu, green I think, starting at Day 11, which I'll stay on on until maintenance. And my center let me have meal replacement bars and creamies starting today (Day 5).
Luckily, I haven't been tooooo hungry. The first couple days were a little rough, mostly headaches from coke withdrawals so that out-weighed the hunger. Now, I think my body is adjusting and I'm starting to feel a lot better waking up and during the day. As of yesterday, I'm down 4lbs and my hubs is down 8.5lbs. Mostly water weight, I'm sure, but I don't care! It's lbs that aren't there anymore!

jetperson
08-21-2010, 09:17 PM
my menu progression went from preconditioning (4 days) to yellow menu days 1-4; blue days 5-10; green from now until maintenence. I've stuck to it pretty much, but I've let go of the supplements and I'm still losing just fine. I've been on MRC diet for about 6 weeks and i've dropped about 13 or so pounds (more like 17 if you include preconditioning). I have found that this is pretty much a garden variety low carb diet. The one new thing MRC does that I had never done before is the portion control. 4oz of protein/ 8oz of raw veggies, or 4oz cooked veggies and 40 calories worth of a lowcal bread or melba rounds ... which i find I never eat.

Now that the sugar and refined carbs are out of my diet, i average less than 800 calories per day. It's not a hard thing to maintain as long as I have the proper foods on hand and I eat on schedule.

MRC isn't a magic diet but it's a healthy way of living.

sclingman
08-21-2010, 10:37 PM
Sorry, correction, blue menu is days 5-10. I start Day 11 on Tuesday and can add meal replacement bars and shakes then. Funny how I miss cheese and cottage cheese. I'm still having problems drinking all the water. I tend to add the HNS to a 16 oz bottle of water, but that doesn't count for the 64. Oh well.....:)

bubbacat
08-21-2010, 11:00 PM
Hi everyone, I just joined 3FC 5 minutes ago. I started MRC Aug 2. I'm taking the pills, drinking the HNS's and lost 9 pounds. Didn't think that was good enough so I went in today and they are like, that 3.2 pounds a week, then they measured me. 9 pounds and 5 1/2 was stored fat, but 14 1/2 inches - I'm lovin it. I have never been hungry, well, ok maybe a couple times and bought the HNS bars - really didn't need 'em. I have 40 more pounds to go. Yes, exercise!!! Ya really got to. My biggest thing is I don't want to be flabby = PERIOD. I have a bike downstairs, so I am riding almost daily for 21 minutes. At work while in the bathroom, I do knee bends and move my arms. Personally I like the support, I need it. I need to be accountable and weigh in twice a week. I had gained 2 pounds - what, that happens, it's water, whatever, but DO NOT GIVE UP! better go:)