The Biggest Loser - Winning by Losing - Plan followed by families on 'Losing It'




gerbies
06-24-2010, 07:44 AM
I just read an interview on-line that was done with Jillian Michaels and one of the questions was what specific plan she used with the families on "Losing It". She said that for the women, she restricted their caloric intake to 1200 calories a day and required a 3,500 calorie burn each day. With the men, it was a 1600 calorie limit and a 4,500 calorie burn each day. No wonder these individuals are losing so much weight so quickly! That can't be good, right? 1,200 calories is SO low, especially for a woman over 175 lbs. I believe my BMR is 1,900, which is the basic calorie burn if I laid in bed all day. I've read that you're not supposed to go below that. What are your thoughts?

I just read an interview on-line that was done with Jillian Michaels and one of the questions was what specific plan she used with the families on "Losing It". She said that for the women, she restricted their caloric intake to 1200 calories a day and required a 3,500 calorie burn each day. With the men, it was a 1600 calorie limit and a 4,500 calorie burn each day. No wonder these individuals are losing so much weight so quickly! That can't be good, right? 1,200 calories is SO low, especially for a woman over 175 lbs. I believe my BMR is 1,900, which is the basic calorie burn if I laid in bed all day. I've read that you're not supposed to go below that. What are your thoughts?


seagirl
06-24-2010, 08:12 AM
I would no more follow a Reality Show to tell me how to lose weight than I would follow one to tell me how to meet my future husband.

ThicknPretty
06-24-2010, 08:34 AM
a 3500 calorie burn?! Does that sound crazy to anyone else?


guamvixen
06-24-2010, 08:51 AM
I recently lost 120 lbs in a year, and I did that by lowering my calorie intake to 1200. These days, I only consume about 1,500 per day. I've managed to maintain my weight for 6 months now, so I think it just depends on your body. The calorie advice was given to me by my personal trainer. My goal was to burn twice as many calories as I ate on a daily basis. It was hard, but even now I get full a lot faster, and I'm 100% healthy. I'm even 3.5 months pregnant with a healthy weight gain of 2 lbs for our first trimester!

But in my opinion, Jillian is NUTS!

diesirae
06-24-2010, 08:54 AM
I have never seen the show before, but I do have some thoughts regarding the 1,200 calorie intake.

Everyone is a bit different when it comes to their calorie intake.

Personally for myself at 240 pounds I'm having around 1229 calories per day and it has been working out wonderfully for me. In the past I have tried to start out higher then that (I have tried 2,000, 1,800, 1,600 and 1,500 calories per day in the past. ) but the weight just wont come off if I deviate from the 1,200 mark too much.

My mother is the same way when it comes to calorie intakes, and is the reason that certain plans like weight watchers, jenny Craig, etc. just wont work for us even after a month of staying 100% on track.

I think that one of the biggest concerns about dropping your calories that low is that you may not be getting the proper nutrients and vitamins and may be heading down a path to malnutrition. I found that if I'm smart about what I eat, I'm still getting a lot more vitamins/nutrients then I was before.

On another note, Loosing weight too quickly can be dangerous for your body. This is another aspect that has been debated. You can find evidence to support that it is bad for you and that its not. I believe it is dangerous to your body, and I have always believed the faster you loose the weight, the faster you can gain it back

So in all, I believe if you make those 1200 calories count and get enough vitamins/minerals, without feeling starved, and without losing it too quickly and its working for you, it is okay. But I would say that is the lowest I would ever suggest a person go for calories.

Everyone is different when it comes to calorie intake, when I was eating 1,800 calories per day for 3 full weeks (making smart choices, and not going over that amount) I actually gained 6 pounds by the end of the 3 weeks

time2lose
06-24-2010, 09:06 AM
When I first started this time my doctor (a weight loss specialist) wanted me on a 1200 calorie/day diet and I was bumping up against 300 pounds, so I think that it is probably a safe calorie level.

I just wonder if they could go from 3000 (or more) calories a day down to 1200 and stick with it. It certainly can be done because I know there are some people here who have done it. Lori Bell comes to mind. But I did not take my doctor's original 1200 calories a day recommendation because I knew myself. I had started 1200 calorie/day diet many times and quit after a week or two, so I started at 1800 calories and then gradually lowered my calories. I am at 1200 now and think that I can stay here forever, if need be. I had to learn how to like the types of foods that make 1200 calories/day sustainable. But that is for me, we all have to find what works for us.

Nada
06-24-2010, 09:09 AM
3500 calorie burn? I'm assuming basal is included in that? So how many hours of cardio does that represent? That is usually the problem. Most of us don't have hours and hours to work out.

rockinrobin
06-24-2010, 09:29 AM
That can't be good, right? 1,200 calories is SO low, especially for a woman over 175 lbs. I believe my BMR is 1,900, which is the basic calorie burn if I laid in bed all day. I've read that you're not supposed to go below that. What are your thoughts?

We talk about this a lot around here.

As far as your BMR being 1900 - is that what you've read you're not supposed to go under? Because if it is, I believe you've read incorrect information.

And 1200 calories, provided they are NUTRIENT rich, no junk, no empty calories - is PLENTY, it's not so low at all. Many folks do well on it, others not so much.

BUT most people CAN lose weight consuming more calories. A good place to start is 1400 - 1600 calories, and you can decrease them as you get lighter. You have to do what you think would set yourself up the most for success. And luckily if you find that it's NOT working for you, or you're not willing to make it work, you can switch it up. Trial and error. Experiment. Experiment. Experiment.

ddc
06-24-2010, 10:25 AM
I'm ok with the number of calories for the eating, but the burn numbers seem excessive to me.

GirlyGirlSebas
06-24-2010, 10:28 AM
I've even read recent research that says we could safely consume as little as 1050 calories a day....provided they are nutrient rich calories.

Before I went on-plan, I ate tons of processed foods, tons of sugar, almost zero vegetables....an occasional can of diced tomatoes in something....and tons of unhealthy saturated fats. In my opinion, I was malnourished. Today, I eat anywhere between 1200-1500 calories a day. I'm never hungry and I feel better than I have in years.

WarMaiden
06-24-2010, 10:39 AM
I would fall over and die on 1200 calories a day, seriously. At that level, I become unable to exercise or even to really function well at all for the activities of daily life. My sleep goes to ****, I barely move, and I'm cranky all the time. It is Not Good for me.

I'm at 1800 calories average per day right now (with a range of 1650 to 2400 over the week) and even that is very difficult for me. I lose weight like a champ at this level; 5.5 pounds so far this month. But it's not fun. Tons of hunger. TONS of hunger. And weakness in my workouts, and increased difficulty sleeping.

I simply hate blanket recommendations. And I don't think Jillian's approach is sustainable for most people--not just due to the calorie level, but because no one can "bootcamp" for the rest of their life.

ennay
06-24-2010, 10:41 AM
I'm ok with the number of calories for the eating, but the burn numbers seem excessive to me.

I'm ok with the burn, but the intake seems excessively low to me!

The burn includes basic metabolic, not on top of it. It's a lot of exercise, but I quite regularly get my total burn in the 3000 calorie range and I am a lot smaller. But I couldnt eat that little while doing it.

I'm bored with the show already, very formulaic. Oh and what a surprise, Jillian gave them $50K

gerbies
06-24-2010, 11:17 AM
I agree with some of the posters. The 1,200 is way too low for me. I suppose I'm fortunate that I can lose weight on 1900-2100 calories. I've been wearing my BodyMedia Fit (like the BodyBugg) and even on the days I don't exercise, I burn about 3,000 calories. On my workout days, I'm between 3,500-3,800 calories. The burn doesn't seem too much, especially for those ladies, as I believe most/all were well over 200 lbs to start off. If this was the burn requirement for a woman closer to her goal weight, that would be way too much.

I suppose our bodies are all different, in terms of what works. Though I have always struggled with my weight, I have always worked out, so I must have a good amount of muscle mass, which helps with the calorie burn.

I don't think I could function on 1,200 calories, even nutrient-rich calories. I know I also will have to decrease my overall calories as I lose weight, so I don't want to start off too low and have no where to go.

Thanks for everyone's thoughts!

Wild Vulpix
06-25-2010, 12:27 PM
How.... do you burn 3500 calories a day through exercise alone?? Especially without hurting yourself?

Violin Jenn
06-25-2010, 12:29 PM
I am at a 1300-1400 calorie intake, but don't know my burn at the moment. IT's working for me with a healthy 1-2lb loss.

However, if I were to do 1200 w/ a burn of 3500...i can tell you this...

I would be a complete Bi#*@CH!! LOL!

ennay
06-25-2010, 12:46 PM
How.... do you burn 3500 calories a day through exercise alone?? Especially without hurting yourself?

It isnt exercise alone, it is exercise plus basal metabolism.

Well, first of all I didnt go from couch to 3000 overnight a. This is a buildup of years. I dont think the zero to 3500 plan is the wisest. Its what they do on TBL and A LOT of them end up hurt. But it is possible. It's just time consuming.

And remember they are a lot larger than you and I are. Fitday lists sedentary metabolism for a 285 lb woman (about where the last woman started?) as 2600 calories. Getting to 3500 from there is not that tough. Weight lift for 30-40 minutes. Cardio for 60-90 and you are there.

For me 3400 is about my peak, but my sedentary metabolism is closer to 1700. And it takes me several hours to get there. But I've been marathon training for years now. When you build up to run for a long period of time, you can back off the running and add in lower impact cardio at about double the time without really bothering anything, if you have that kind of time.

A 3400-3500 calorie day for me would look like
am: 30min elliptical(moderate)/30 min weights(vig)/30 min row (high intensity)
pm: 10 mile run (moderate intensity)
later: 1 hour power yoga.

seagirl
06-26-2010, 06:52 AM
Basal metabolism combined with 4 hours of biking at about 13 mph burned about 3800 calories for me. Same with a day of hiking. You could probably burn 3800 calories doing those things for longer without hurting yourself.

I think it's probably easier and more enjoyable if it's something that's fit into your day as part of your day - like biking, hiking, running - rather than thinking of it as "exercise" that you have to get over with so you can start your day.

jmfan317
06-27-2010, 07:00 PM
Jillian Michaels: What do Losing It families eat: I basically put them the Master Your Metabolism diet. Then I set the women's calories at 1200 intake & men's cal intake at 1600 daily. I have the guys burning 4,500 cals a day and the women burning 3,500 cals a day.

Its true on that interview cuz she posted it on her facebook

gerbies
06-28-2010, 09:37 AM
The burn I posted for myself (based on what my BodyMedia Fit tells me) is my total daily burn, including sleeping, breathing, walking around the house, working, exercise, etc. Because I weigh 267 lbs. my daily burn is more than someone who is 200, or 150 lbs. When I exercise, my daily burn is about 500 calories higher. I generally workout 30 minutes-1 hour 5 days a week. I do not do anything too crazy. Because my weight is high, my total 24-hour calorie daily burn is anywhere from 2800-3300 calories per day.

shoeluver67
06-30-2010, 07:44 AM
the burn makes sense to me for THAT show...NOT for a weight loss plan a normal person is on. like someone else said...they have that kind of time to work out like that. if i worked out for 8 hours a day i'd probably burn those kinds of calories too (including the Basal that is). and lets face it...that is their JOB...to work out and lose weight. it's not like they are leading a NORMAL life while they are on this show. i'd like to see them do THAT in a show instead...make it a little more realistic. (although they DID do that on one episode of BL, where the gym open and closed at a certain time and then they had to "work" at the food bank during the day...and the contestants were freaking out cause they were only getting in like an hour or two of working out...welcome to the real world)

LastTrain2Para
07-19-2010, 10:48 PM
When you have 50lbs++++ to lose 1200 calories a day w/ one high day probably 1800-2000 and killin it at the gym is not stressful/unhealthy. When you get to the last 10-20 lbs... then its unhealthy. Taking off the overweight weight, and taking off the vanity weight requires two different strategies.

AndreaMarie
07-21-2010, 09:29 PM
I think the calorie number also depends on a persons age. A 40 year old woman may need to cut her caloires to 1200 to produce weight loss when a 25 year old female can get by with 1600 at the same starting weight.

Zoesmama
01-18-2011, 11:12 AM
a 3500 calorie burn?! Does that sound crazy to anyone else?

Nope. Last week I burned 3679 calories that was 385 minutes of exercise(planned and my weekday 10 minute walks to the bus stop to greet my daughter). I didn't have to eat only 1200 calories though. :mad: :( Most days I was just over my range on sparkpeople.com which is 1,670 - 2,020 . Now that I've gotten into the "program" I realize it may be higher because of how I put in my "fitness" goals for calories. But I did 2 lbs the first week and 2.2 lbs the 2nd weigh in so its working.

Well for a week. I see some things here say for a DAY that is probably INCLUDING their basal metabolic rate though which is probably 2000ish. ;)

ThinningVegan
01-18-2011, 11:27 PM
Ok... I'm confused. :dizzy:

I just checked my BMR and it says that mine is 2097 calories. So if I am consuming 1200 calories a day, how much should I be burning in a day? I don't understand how the BMR and exercise calories are combined.

Can someone explain to me pwetty pweeeze! :carrot:


oohhhh ok ... so if I burn 2097 calories a day then I only need to burn another 1400 through exercise?

RoseRodent
01-20-2011, 03:44 AM
I'm not into the whole reality show thing much either, but remember that usually we are talking about two totally different types of advice:

Advice most of us receive elsewhere is advice for how you should safely lose weight if you are doing it "on your own" - by which I mean without the direct and personal supervision of any health professionals.

These shows are, even if behind the scenes, ones where the person does receive the direct, personal, one to one supervision of a medical professional. They have a medical before they begin the program, they have medicals during the program and a medical evaluation after (mostly just so they can crow "and now she's off all her BP medication and isn't diabetic any more" but it still counts) and access to medical advice throughout. That's a totally different kind of program with different requirements that come alongside it.

Now I don't believe for one second we should encourage people to believe that they can replicate what they see on TV, that they should think this person lost 6lbs in a week WITH all this supervision and assistance therefore I can (or that fat person I know should) - doesn't work that way.

But don't become confused between what is general advice for the health of a majority who are going it alone and what is personal advice for people who are being supervised. I myself am on a supervised diet, and it's essential I go well below my BMR, the "If I lay in bed and did nothing" rate because I DO lie in bed and do nothing, I've got an unstable spinal injury. There's no point advising me to exercise, there's no point putting me on a 1,500 cal a day diet, I'd put weight on. I don't discuss my diet plan or calorie amount with anyone because I'm sure they will implode with the horror that I am below the generally recommended amounts, but then my lifestyle is significantly different too, and most important is my nutrition is balaced with prescription supplements and my blood is being tested to make sure I am getting everything I need from this program.

If I advertised my diet plan as a strategy for anyone else it would be appalling.