Does it Work? - Anyone use B12, Lipo B, and Phen for weight loss?




robynlmac
06-22-2010, 08:56 PM
I am curious if anyone on here has used these or a combination and if so how well did it work and how long did it take to lose the weight.?

I have seen other forums where they list results, but I am not sure of the host reliability and if those posting are real replies.

I have an appointment this Friday with a medical weight loss doctor, not a clinic to discuss this combination. I have a bunch of tests the Dr. Will be taking on me and labs and stuff.

I will keep you all posted if it really does work or not.


nelie
06-22-2010, 09:08 PM
Personally, I'd run away fast from any 'medical weight loss' doctor that is advising any type of injections. Generally, the scam type weight loss doctors use injections because they sound scientific but are completely unnecessary. Do you have low B12? Have you got tested for it? B12 won't do anything for you if you aren't low in it and even if you are, an inexpensive pill would raise your B12 levels.

From what I've found, lipotropic-b type injections could be B12 with other B vitamins but it may vary, do you know exactly what is in the injections?

Also B vitamins won't cause you to lose weight, even B12 but what they do is if you are low in B vitamins (again a simple test from your regular doctor can tell you this), then they can make you feel good.

As for Phentermine, it is an appetite suppresant and people have had mixed results from it. If you have a regular doctor, your regular doctor can prescribe phentermine.

robynlmac
06-22-2010, 09:18 PM
I still think I will try it. I asked my regular Doctor 3 years ago and 40lbs lighter and she told me to go to a weight loss surgeon for surgery. I only weighed 170 and had just had a baby. I need the energy. I am too tired to exercise at the end of my 12 hour work day.

My daughter said she worked with a gal who used just B12 and her energy came back and she lost quite a bit of weight because she was no longer too tired to exercise.

I have tried almost every thing else and with each diet I have only weighed more than before I started including weight watchers.


nelie
06-22-2010, 09:32 PM
Why not go get B12 vitamins from your local drugstore then if you think you are low on vitamin b? A regular multi vitamin should have plenty of b vitamins in it.

I just got tested for B12 myself. Although if you are tired, it might be vitamin D as apparently the latest discovery is that many people are low in vitamin d and doctors are recommending vitamin d supplements.

pandaandie
06-22-2010, 09:38 PM
I had my vitamin D checked and it was significantly low. There are many reasons for this from what I have read. Most people wear sunscreen before going outside, but the body uses the sun to make Vitamin D. Also, people who are over weight, the fat cells absorb the Vitamin D making it less potent in your body. I had a few low hormones and so I am on Vitamin D and DHEA per doctors orders.

robynlmac
06-23-2010, 07:47 AM
Thanks ladies. I will see how the injections go and if I get any results and if so I will post them here.

StephanieM
06-23-2010, 01:45 PM
A combo pill that gives you vitamin B6, B9 and B12 is really good for increasing your energy and mood levels.

I took it before, nice cheap alternative to shots and it helped me keep going. I had a ton of energy and I felt really good. I'm actually going to buy some more today because it's been a bit since I ran out and I have lower energy levels.

Phentermine is usually for those with a lot to lose, I've never heard of it as a shot but only as a pill. I believe it helps supress appetite.

Be careful and best of luck, be wary of shots promising to help you lose weight that are mixed with very low calorie diets, they can be quite unhealthy.

bargoo
06-23-2010, 02:15 PM
I agree with Nelie.

kuchick
06-23-2010, 02:21 PM
A friend of mine has taken this combo with great success losing weight, but not much success changing her eating habits. I'm afraid that she will regain when she stops taking the injection and phen. Using this only helps for permanent weightloss if you also change your eating habits to maintain the loss. Good luck!

Oh, and please tell me that you don't see that quack who recommended weight loss surgery when you only weighed 170 - that's too extreme at that low of a weight! Unless you're EXTREMELY short, your BMI didn't call for that.

robynlmac
06-24-2010, 12:36 PM
No, I am not going to see that quack of a Doctor who told me to go have weight loss surgery. I never went back and saw them for anything.

I see the new Doctor tomorrow and I very excited. I have read a lot of success stories of people who have tried this combo. I hope I am one of them. I have already began changing my eating habits and cutting back on my food intake. I will need the suppressant though to feel satisfied on only eating a portion the size of my palm. At least that is what I have heard what is recommended in order to eat.

This doctor will also give me a good meal plan for me to fix and an exercise plan so I can have success. He mentioned to me when we talked on Monday it was more than just taking meds and shots and losing weight, it was a lifestyle change. That I do know and I am prepared for. I have just gotten lazy as I have gotten older.

I also plan on taking before, during and after pics. I will take my first one tonight with my start weight. I am not sure if I will take during pics bi-weekly or monthly. I guess it will depend upon if you can even see any noticeable difference in my size.

Wishing all of you the best of luck. I hope I can sleep tonight as I am so excited about tomorrow. :)

Paulapaula
06-25-2010, 01:52 PM
I have been on this combo for about a month now and have lost approx 10 pounds. This is a miracle for me; my body tends to "hold on" to fat and on every diet I've ever been on I have lost weight, but much slower than anybody else I'd known who'd done the same things. SO I am very happy with 10 lbs in a month.

I take the Lipo injections everyother week, alternating with the B-12 injections. All they really do for me is give me more energy. Typically, whenever I have tried to lose weight, I feel tired all the time (at least at first) but these injections really help. They are not, in anyway, a substitute for healthy eating and exercise, which was clearly explained to me at the clinic where I go to obtain the injections and medication.

The phentermine, to me, is a miracle. I had been on phen-fen and it worked well for me(albeit the weight came off more slowly for me than for everyone else) and I was extremely disappointed when it was taken off the market. The weight slowly came back and here I am 13 years later weighing 10 llbs more than when I started the phen-fen almost 14 years ago.

When I started this time around, I weighed 175. I am 5'2".

Again, it was clearly explained to me that the phentermine is not a substitute for healthy eating and exercise. It is simply a tool to help me stick to the eating plan that I WANT to stick to but am unable to stick to, consistently, due to lack of willpower. It does something to my brain that makes me be less interested in food. Not totally UN-interested, just not obsessed like I usually am. I have more willpower with the phentermine.

As far as going to a Dr. for phentermine, I have tried numerous times but my Dr. kept recommending that I simply decrease my portion sizes. HELLO! If I had willpower I could do that. But, alas, I have no willpower, so that doesn't work for me.

Also, I have a friend who is a Family PRactice Dr (but she is not my Dr.). SHe told me that her insurance company (which is the same insurance company my Dr is under) does not reimburse her for visits with patients for the exclusive reason of weight loss. However,she does get reimbursed for visits that deal with the side effects of weight loss, such as high cholesterol, blood pressure, etc. I.E. she gets paid only for dealing with the consequences of the disease, not the disease itself.

This may explain why your Dr told you to see a weight loss surgeon....she / he knows he won't get paid for dealing with your weight issues, and a bariatric surgeon typically isn't covered under insurance, anyway.

So, that is my experience. SO far, I am very happy with it.

I hope this helps.

robynlmac
06-25-2010, 09:41 PM
Well, I had my first appointment, I actually weighed less than I thought. My weight was 206.

The Doctor gave me a diet to follow and a B12 injection. He does not do the Lipo B injections as he will not take the risk on his patients since it is not FDA approved.

He also started me off on Tenuate instead of Adipex. I see there are a few differences in the meds so we shall see how they do for me. I go back once a week for B12 injections as long as I wish to take them. And I see him again in 2 weeks to follow up how my meds and injections and diet is coming along.
So far I have not noticed that I am wired like some people say, but I definitely do not as exhausted as I normally do in the evening. Some nights I fall asleep watching tv about 8:30 or 9:00. This is a good thing that I have the energy to actually stay awake and do the dinner dishes. ;)

I will keep everyone posted also how I feel and what my progress is through out my first couple of weeks. I only took one 25 mg of the Tenuate and I do not have much of an appetite, so I know that is working. I was able to eat a very proportionate meal tonight for dinner.

Thanks!

JayLei
06-27-2010, 10:08 PM
I had B injections for a few years when I had a high stress and active job and was suffering from carpal tunnel-like symptoms (but it wasn't carpal tunnel).

I really miss them actually.

You can't always say just take the pill instead... in my case, the doctor said my low levels were because my system simply doesn't absorb it (a genetic thing).
Nowadays I take B-12 dots and my multivitamin, but it just doesn't deliver the same kick as the shot.

nelie
06-27-2010, 11:19 PM
Jay, have you tried sublingual b-12? I had a friend who had low b-12 and used sublingual and he said that it was pretty amazing, much better than pills.

I'd say for most of the population, pills are sufficient but yes if you have a b-12 deficiency and pills don't bring the levels up then shots are definitely an option. What I don't like to see though is quack doctors automatically subscribe b-12 injections and act like they are a weight loss aid when they aren't.

kuchick
06-28-2010, 09:46 AM
How do the sublingual B-12 taste? I have low B-12, but have just been taking the pills because the thought of tasting it makes me shudder. I used to hide baby aspirin in my room when I was little because I couldn't stand the taste and my mom kept giving them to me when I was sick.

My friend who was taking Phentermine and B-12 injections was doing it under the care of her gyno and knew that the B-12 was really just for energy - that weight loss may be a side effect of increased energy since you're moving more.

robynlmac
06-28-2010, 10:38 AM
Well, it is Monday and I am 4th day since getting the B12 injection and taking the appetite suppresent. So far I have lost 0 weight. I feel like I am eating more and it is very noticable today when I packed my lunch. I also have not noticed and extra energy in spite of the B12 injection and Diethylpropin. In fact, Saturday I took a 3 hour nap mid day with my daughter and still started to fall asleep on the couch at 9:30ish. I have had no problem going to sleep at night and I still feel I need my caffeine kick to get me going. So, for those that are lucky enough to get an energy boost that is awesome.

I go in Wednesday for my next injection and starting tomorrow I begin taking 2 pills a day. I will see if I feel any difference in my energy level in a few days. By the way, I also took some Bcomplex pills yesterday as well and still no extra energy.

Maybe I am just slow going at feeling any of the effects just yet.

nelie
06-28-2010, 02:15 PM
If you aren't vitamin B deficient, then vitamin b injections/pills won't give you an energy boost unless there is something else they put in the pills/injections such as caffeine.

robynlmac
06-28-2010, 04:27 PM
Nelie,

Thanks, I always hear everyone say it gives them so much energy. I was only expecting them to help speed up my metabolism. It is so hard to not weigh in between the week, but I wanted to see if there was anything going on.

My husband is eating all the same foods as I am but he is not receiving any injections or taking anything and since Friday this morning he has already lost 4 pounds and in some ways it is so dicouraging since he doesn't even exercise. I think sometimes all a man has to do is say I feel like losing 30 lbs and poof it's gone with out any effort. :s

nelie
06-28-2010, 04:35 PM
Well men have more muscle than women and thus a higher metabolism. I'd recommend looking into ways to build muscle :)

Yes my friend who had low b-12 and did sublinguals said he'd get an instant boost of energy from them but that was because he was low from the start.

Again, if you have low energy, I'd look into vitamin D. Do you have a regular doctor you go to at all? Like where you go for yearly physicals? If so, I'd go and ask for blood tests including vitamin D.

JayLei
07-01-2010, 04:18 PM
Nelie, I take the B-12 dots which are sublingual.

And I do agree that overdosing and misuse of vitamins is becoming more and more common (gummi multivitamins for adults, anyone?) and that we need to be as careful with dosing vitamins as prescriptions.

Robyn, hang in there... we know that men lose faster than women, it's frustrating, but true. And you could actually be eating more, especially if your new eating plan contains a lot more low calorie vegetables than higher calorie processed food.
And any new plan/dietary change takes time for your body to adjust... it took about two months for me to really feel a sustainable effect from my injections.

loudmexigirl
07-14-2010, 07:06 PM
I went to the weight loss dr. and got phentermine and b12 shots....the shots didnt make a difference to me and the phentermine made me get the jitters...i felt like i had to move or i wasnt happy...it didnt help any with the hunger for me..but everyone is different

Paulapaula
07-23-2010, 11:58 PM
Well, I have been on this combo for 8 weeks now, and I must say I am very happy with it. Down 14 llbs...not a lot, but for me, its fabulous, and much more than I've lost (0 llbs) trying to do it on my own for the last 8 years.

The b12 seems to be helping more each time I get it (every other week). The nurse who "injects" me explained that it really does help only if you are lower on b12, but that people who are losing weight generally ARE lower in b12 simply because they aren't eating as much. So, the longer you are eating decreased calories, the bigger the deficit. I think its true because I feel like it gives me more energy now than when I started 8 weeks ago.

The phentermine really "takes the edge off". Food doesn't call my name like it used to. Its been 8 weeks since I've taken any candy from the candy dish that sits 2 feet away from me at work...used to be that I'd fight the temptation all day every day, and give in and have at least 6-8 mini peanut butter cups daily. With the phentermine, I don't even notice those pb cups. Just don't even think of them. Crazy.

Of course, I need to get ready to wean myself off the phentermine. I'm nervous about that and plan to go off of it (slowly) for the month of September while still getting the shots and trying to figure out how to do this without phentermine. Because I still have a lot of weight to lose, I will go back on the phentermine in October for another 12 weeks. The clinic I go to suggests this pattern until my BMI gets down to 24. When it hits 24, they won't give me the phentermine. BUt I still have a long way to go before that happens.

Just wanted to give those of you who are interested an update.

StephanieM
07-24-2010, 10:58 AM
A candy dish full of peanut butter cups is evil!

I would be struggling to resist them, peanut butter cups are my one weakness!

robynlmac
07-26-2010, 01:34 PM
Thanks everyone. I have been on the Diethylpropin and B12 now for 6 weeks. I only missed one B12 shot. At first I was thinking they were not helping, but the one week I missed it I was extremely wore out by the end of that week. I am still struggling with being tired and not having much energy. Yesterday I just wanted to sit around and sleep. I have read that the Diethylpropin has drowsiness as one of the side effects listed on it. I am now taking the 75mg a day dose and I have not had the energy or sleeping issues that people on Phentimine speak of. I was down about 6 pounds in the last six weeks, but have gained back 2 pounds already I think for just lack of energy. I do less now than I did prior to taking the meds. I see the Dr again on August 6th and I am going to ask about a change in the medication to Phentimine and see if that doesn't raise up my energy level any. I have read on some forum boards how the combination of Phen and B12 has given them energy to clean their entire house from top to bottom and still jog 5 miles and have energy left to spare.

I don't have the energy to even clean my house anymore and jog, no way. Playing 10 to 15 minutes with my daughter is enough for me and I ready to sit down. I have never been this wore out feeling in my life. I want to give this stuff at least 2 more weeks just to make sure I have given it a fair chance to work before I blow it off. It would be nice to actually feel like doing stuff again.

nelie
07-26-2010, 01:46 PM
Robyn - I have to say it sounds like you should really get to a regular doctor and have a real physical with blood tests. The kind of lack of energy you describe isn't normal. Do you know how many calories you are eating?

carrie31324
07-26-2010, 02:40 PM
I have done this combo before and the problem I had was when I got off of the pills and shots I gained all the weight back and then some!! A LOT of people have this same problem so I'd be weary.... All you need is to eat healthy and get up and move. For me the meds also had a psychological effect that backfired when I stopped taking them, because I didn't think I could do continue to lose weight without them. You'll make the best decision for you, just keep that in mind :)

mthrgoos68
07-26-2010, 05:57 PM
[.... All you need is to eat healthy and get up and move. )[/QUOTE]

If it was as easy as that to change our ways, none of us would be here. :o

StephanieM
07-26-2010, 06:31 PM
I don't know. I think it is that simple sounding, it's just none of us seem to have the motivation.

I think of this forum as my motivation so I can get up and move!

mthrgoos68
07-26-2010, 08:15 PM
I really don't think for a minute that it's about lack of motivation or willpower. Nobody enjoys being overweight and uncomfortable. That alone is motivation enough, but it's not as simple as that.

hacamila
07-30-2010, 11:01 AM
[QUOTE=StephanieM;3354791]A combo pill that gives you vitamin B6, B9 and B12 is really good for increasing your energy and mood levels.

Stephanie, where can I get the combo pill that gives you vitamin B6, B9 and B12?

Thanks!:D

nelie
07-30-2010, 11:05 AM
hacimila - Vitamin B pills can be found at your local drugstore. I'd start there. Places like GNC and vitamin shoppe would also have them.

Dingo
07-31-2010, 07:22 AM
I also would be really careful with phen.
I started taking it in April, lost 20lbs in about 2 months.
Then I started getting tolerant to it. Then I felt hungry ALL THE TIME. Starving!
I have since gained it back. I gained 10 lbs in 9 days! This drug makes me feel out of sorts with my body. And it makes me irritable and leaves me mentally cloudy.

LisaBendricks
08-02-2010, 02:07 AM
Yea the same thing happened to me i started to get hungry a bunch when taking phen, but then doing something mind consuming might make it easier. i started doing my financing.....

josingh
06-17-2013, 09:54 PM
I am curious if anyone on here has used these or a combination and if so how well did it work and how long did it take to lose the weight.?

I have seen other forums where they list results, but I am not sure of the host reliability and if those posting are real replies.

I have an appointment this Friday with a medical weight loss doctor, not a clinic to discuss this combination. I have a bunch of tests the Dr. Will be taking on me and labs and stuff.

I will keep you all posted if it really does work or not. I am going to yhe dr tomorrow to try this combo myself I did the HCG diet last year and lost 30lbs the first month but gained most of it back I need to find something that works I work 11 hrs a day and it is hard for me to find the energy to work out :?:

MAK247
06-18-2013, 11:58 AM
I have been taking b12 dots. You put it under your tongue and let it dissolve. From what I read taking vitamin b pills doesn't work because your body doesn't absorb it as well in the stomach, but under the tongue it goes straight to your blood stream like an injection.

I also take vitamin d3. I can tell when I haven't had my vitamins I will be lagging all day and realize I took the pills out and forgot to take them. (I will set them out while getting ready and wait until after breakfast to take them)

A friend told me she was going in for b12 injections at a weight loss clinic for $20/injection every week. That's $80/month, I got the bottle of dots for under $10...I'll stick with my dots. :)

nelie
06-18-2013, 01:49 PM
Well B-12 shots only work if you have a deficiency. I probably said it earlier in this thread but any 'weight loss clinic' that automatically gives you b-12 shots is a scam. They use the shots to sound scientific but the only science is taking a blood test to see your current b-12 level and supplement if necessary.

Those that are risk of low B-12
Elderly
Those that don't eat animal products
Those with a genetic malabsorption condition (small percentage)