Weight Loss Support - HUGE problem, kinda scary, please help! (long)




mescelestus
06-18-2010, 10:42 PM
Ok, so I am 21 years old, I began this lifestyle change just over 2 years ago...and until this afternoon, I thought I had lost 93 in two years given my best effort. (Which I still consider to be VERY slow for someone my age)... Well here's the problem: I needed a new scale because I have been weighing myself on my analog bathroom scale (that's only the one I have been weighing on recently, I have had different scales)...I know that those are not too accurate, but I figured I can assume they are correct within 5LBS...So my last weigh in on my home scale (last friday) I was 169)...I go to walmart to buy a digital today (and I weighed myself on several of the digitals they have there)...I WEIGHED 189!!!!!!!:o I feel like this can not be true but 3 different scales told me that it is! I NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD GUESS THAT I AM TWENTY POUNDS MORE THAN I THOUGHT!! Here is where it gets worse and more confusing: After the holidays (and during the holidays), I weighed myself on the triple beam balance at the GYN: low 190's, also on my dad's super fancy accurate scale: Low 190's. Since January I have been extra good. Working out A LOT every day. and eating about 1700/day. (or less). About every other weekend I cheat, but not an out and out binge (ex: last sat I ate a donut, sunday I had 2 slices of pizza and half a bag of chips (that's all I ate all day)...Sometimes my weekends look like that). But here are what my weeks look like (I SWEAR)
I'll describe yesterday, because it was a typical week day:
B- 3 LF Eggos with one T LF cream cheese and a quarter of a Banana.

L- Turkey sandwich (3.5 oz carved turkey breast, 1 slice swiss, 2 slices WW bread.

Snack: Banana with handful or cheerios

D-6oz shrimp, arugala salad with 1 T LF dressing, 1 serving of whole wheat pasta.

Snack: 6oz plain Greek yogurt.
(appox 80oz water).

This was my workout yesterday:
75 mins on elliptical at lvl 13 according to the machine it burned 800 cals (and I told it that I weighed 170, I would be burning way more if its true that I'm 189)

I did a 45 min rokin body aerobic tape

I did a 45 min rockin body tape that is for weight lifting. (5lb weights)

In a typical day I have the same activity as a stay at home mom...I wash dishes, do laundry, chores, vacuum, sweep, clean, up and down the stairs at least 20X per day.

also 2X a week, I skip the gym and I walk at least TEN miles in the park. (I did that today).
I NEVER work out less than 5X/wk

I swear all of the above is true.

SO....WHAT's wrong with me?? How could I have lost virtually NO WEIGHT in 6 months of behaving the way I described to you???

I want info on whom I can see, or if there is a way I can be committed into one of those psych wards for eating disorders, or go to a fat camp for 6 weeks...someplace where they analyze my entire endocrine system. If I am not admitted to a facility in the next week or so I fear I will hurt myself. I have never felt this way before this week, but I need help with my mental and physical health. Also I cant really pay to be placed on a psych ward...but as I said, I feel like I am a danger to myself. Where do I begin?


SarahD140
06-18-2010, 11:05 PM
sigh. sounds like you are in rough state of mind. I get there too, and to be honest, I too would love a full medical work up. I think it would really help. You should talk to some one. Reach out. Also, to lose weight you may need to reduce your calories. I'm 274 lbs and I'm supposed to have 1700 cals a day. Being that you are smaller I think you need fewer.

Sockerton
06-18-2010, 11:19 PM
First of all, stop and take a deep breath. Weighing 20 more pounds than you thought is scary.

Before you commit yourself to a psych ward, try go getting your body fat tested. If you are working out as much as you say you are, maybe you gained some muscle.

Also, if you feel like you aren't losing the weight you should be, go to the doctor and get a thyroid test.


Vladadog
06-18-2010, 11:20 PM
I'll let wiser folks comment on diet and exercise because I swear I just get so confused sometimes. Everyone is so different and I'm just now really getting a handle on what I think works for me.

But scales... Don't necessarily trust the Wal mart ones. Digital scales are no more accurate than the old needle on a dial kind. If you scale is on a solid non-carpeted, perfectly flat surface and you never move it then yeah, it's probably reasonably accurate at least compared to other times on that exact scale exactly where it is. But once you move it all bets are off. And if you tip it on its side while moving it, or store it for a while on its side then it can get all giddy and tell you all kinds of wrong stuff. Those poor Wal Mart scales, who knows what they've been up to recently and how they have been abused. Even the fact three scales told you the same thing doesn't convince me they were necessarily telling the truth. Oh, and also with digital scales, any time it's been moved, even a tiny bit, you should get on, let it weigh you, get off, let it reset to 0, and then get on again. That first time it's just calibrating itself and you really really can't trust the number.

Also, consider that you probably usually weigh yourself in the morning and with not many clothes on. That's almost always your very lowest weight of the day. Now have some breakfast (even a small healthy one), some tea or coffee, some water, then get dressed... depending on your clothes and other factors you could be looking at 8 or 10 pounds right there.

So I just wouldn't get too worked up about this. Maybe you haven't lost as much as you thought but it just seems very unlikely you've lost nothing in 6 months.

If you can, swing by the doctor's office. I've no idea if their scales are any more accurate but I like to think they are. If you haven't had a check-up in over a year it's probably not a bad idea. There are lots of physical reasons your weight loss might be so slow and it sure wouldn't hurt to rule them out. Especially for your own peace of mind - stress never helps you lose weight!

mescelestus
06-18-2010, 11:21 PM
Thank you for the advice, clearly what I have been doing, may or may not be working, but my problem with that logic is that: 1700 cals is just over what my bmr comes out to be (checked on various websites)...and I burn about 2000 calories beyond that in my exercise nearly daily, and more if I weigh more than I think I do. I mean nothing changes walking ten miles, that is real, and I do something similar to walking 10 miles every day...that shouldn't be the problem.

mescelestus
06-18-2010, 11:32 PM
Thanks Vladadog- I have my 6 month appointment at the GYN on tuesday, I will then be weighed on her scale....Hopefully its a number I like better. On a side note, I am under constant stress! I hate my environment, my home life, I have no friends, I suffer from constant anxiety, and also depression sometimes...I am also stressed out about moving across the country in August (but I want to do that). If it turns out that I really am around 190 on the doctor's scale on tuesday....I am going to have to get that full blood work up (where the money is going to come from idk, and I am having my mother seriously talk to her psychiatrist friend about where I can go, because I am not mentally stable enough to handle that).

Sockerton-some of that could be the case, but I don't lift more than 10lbs at a time and only do that up to 3X a week. BUT I do look smaller than I ever have, I lost at least 2 inches off my waist since Jan, and just a couple of weeks ago I tried on two pairs of size 10 jeans at Levi's and they both fit, I wear them both regularly. It doesn't seem as though someone who is 5'2" and 190 could wear size 10 pants.

Sockerton
06-18-2010, 11:33 PM
If, like all the experts says, it comes down to calories in vs calories out, I shoud be a lot lighter. I'm 6'1" tall. I've been eating around 1500 cals a day and burning between 700 and 1000 calories in exercise 5 days a week. I can run now. Run. Haven't done that in years. According to all the websites, I should be losing 3-4 pounds a week. But the scale hasn't budged. It even went up. I posted in another forum that I want to punch my scale. And everytime my Wii Fit calls me obese I want to throw it out the window.

No one knows why someone can drop weight quickly, while others struggle. I have a BS in exercise and sports science. No one in school every gave me the magic way to lose weight. I am 246 pounds, and even using everything I know, I can't move the scale lately.

It is trial and error. I don't know how accurate your calorie counts are. Maybe you have to be more accurate. Weigh and measure everything. Maybe you have to change up your diet. Maybe you have to switch around your carbs and proteins. Maybe you should try zig-zagging your calories.

I know this isn't probably what you wanted to hear. I see everyone posting these huge losses and I get jealous. But I just keep thinking, that will be me one day. I will be posting that I made it to one-derland. Or I lost 100 pounds.

Sorry you are feeling this way. I had a really bad day yesterday. I came here. I posted. And everyone comments made me feel better.

Please don't hurt yourself over 20 pounds.

Cglasscock1
06-18-2010, 11:34 PM
Vlad is right. Digital scales must be on level flooring and always reset to 0 before you weigh. Be sure you have read the directions before you use them--it was very different for me the first time I tried them, but now I like the digital scales.
I really understand how upset you must be but don't despair. Give it a day or two and try weighing at home in the morning (with few clothes on). Then, be sure you do exactly the same thing each time you weigh in. It may not be as bad a difference as you thought. Let us know and good luck!!!

mescelestus
06-19-2010, 12:03 AM
Thanks guys, I will let you all know what happens at the doctor on tuesday, and what steps I decide to take from there. PS I wound up not buying one of those scales because I couldn't handle it.

HaleyisLove
06-19-2010, 01:12 AM
I would say feel good about how your body looks and how you feel...

I weigh less than 190 and am way taller than 5'2" and I definitely cannot fit into size 10 jeans

scales are super evil.... and who knows maybe you weighed more than your scale said when you started...thats the problem...no two scales are the same

MissKelly
06-19-2010, 04:32 AM
I agree with what HaleyisLove said....

I understand the shock value of the 20lb difference at face value...but have you been losing inches? Have you been going down in clothing sizes or are they fitting more loosely?? If I were to make the scale a God in this...I'd be in a straight jacket every other week....my own weight is not ideally matching up to my size of my clothing...but inches are coming off. Perhaps this could be happening to you because Im guessing that in 6 months...since January ...you have taken notice of changes in your body outside of what the scale reports back to you....or you would have felt like losing it a few weeks back. Have you noticed differences? Are you measuring yourself?

If you are exercising as you outlined above....& the body can build approx 1-2lbs of muscle a month....I am seeing where some of the gain is accountable.....minus your clothing when you weighed, taking the time of day in which you probably weighed yourself on that scale at Walmart which obviously wasnt after your first morning tinkle (which can easily raise you up to around approximately 7lbs mid day or evening)....& maybe youre retaining water, maybe youre not accurately measuring & only guesstimating serving sizes (example..plain small cooked shrimp..a serving is only 3 oz & it has 460mg of sodium per serving)..your daily carb intake may be too high ...maybe you didn't excrete as much as usual or at all...way too many factors play into this.

therex
06-19-2010, 06:33 AM
I would say feel good about how your body looks and how you feel...

I weigh less than 190 and am way taller than 5'2" and I definitely cannot fit into size 10 jeans


yeah, i agree.. even if you do weigh 189 you have an amazing body. i am 5'2, 180 lbs and can barely fit into a size 12.

DhaniCauldwell
06-19-2010, 10:53 AM
Oh, the dangers of the scale. I started my weight loss journey with a simple needle one and then switched to a digital. The needle one was five pounds off! It happens. I know how you feel.

:queen: Dhani :queen:

sweetnlow28
06-19-2010, 11:03 AM
I can understand the shock of seeing a higher number :hug: I used to use an analog scale as well. When I bought my first digital it said I was 10 pounds more. I took it back thinking it was wrong but the next one I bought said the same thing. My thinking is that, if you were stepping on the same analog scale all along and it was dropping consistently, you were still losing weight during that time. Perhaps you do weigh a bit more than you thought but you were actually losing if that scale was moving. You can try testing both the analog and digital scale by weighing something you know the weight of, like a barbel or a 10 pound bag of potatoes. See how the scales compare. Try not to get too discouraged. Scales can vary quite a bit. Good luck at your upcoming appointment and try not to let it get you down ;)

Beverlyjoy
06-19-2010, 11:05 AM
You've gotten good advice. The best is to set your scale by the doctor's scale - minus your clothes.

I'd be totally freaking out too.

Because of a foot/ankle problem I wear a small brace on my ankle/foot. So I weigh with my shoes and brace on. So, who knows what my 'real' weight is. Just as long as it's going down and you/we are eating healthfully that's what's important in the long run.

mescelestus
06-19-2010, 12:16 PM
Thanks everyone...I have calmed down a bit since last night...I know I weighed in the store after I had eaten two meals (without having moved my bowels) and after eating sodium, and while wearing jeans...I am going to go strict low sodium and drink a lot of water (a lot more than I normally do)...In the few days I have before the appointment, and then I'll weigh naked so that I can get an accurate read.

Hayleyislove- My starting weight of 262 was taken on a dr's scale, so I can only assume it was accurate.

MissKelly- I do measure and weigh my food, and the carbs in what I listed on my OP don't reflect my usual carb intake...I was eating extra because I felt like I had low blood sugar all day. BUT you are absolutely right that sodium could be sneaking in where I don't notice, although I pay attention to that...I didn't know that about the shrimp. Thanks.

Sweetnlow28-given the circumstances maybe mine is only 10 pounds off too, and that could be a general discrepancy between analogs and digitals? I'll have to wait until my dr appt to find out.

All in all, I HAVE been getting smaller, I LOOK slimmer than ever, my stomach is FLAT (except for my panniculus ). I DID lose from 2-3 inches off both my hips and waist since Jan. My ribs and collar bones are evident. But I don't understand how all that could be if I have not been losing weight...I am not doing enough weight training to build any sort of real muscle. The whole thing is crazy. But THANKS FOR LISTENING!

QuilterInVA
06-19-2010, 02:16 PM
Your diet is high in refined carbs and there aren't enough vegetables, fruit, dairy and good fats. What you eat is very important if you want to lose weight faster and be healthy. I doubt you are getting 2000 calories a day burned in exercise. Most people overestimate calories burned. If you were, you'd be losing 2-3 pounds a week. My digital scale is exactly the same as my doctor's balance beam.

Stella4
06-19-2010, 06:24 PM
Your diet is high in refined carbs and there aren't enough vegetables, fruit, dairy and good fats. What you eat is very important if you want to lose weight faster and be healthy.

I was going to mention this also. I'm not a nutritionist or anything but it looks like your choosing foods with higher glycemic index also. Maybe switching up your diet a little might help.

I wouldn't worry about what the scale says though. Think about all that you have accomplished! You're doing great and a size 10 jeans - wooohoo sexy momma! Can't wait for that!

mescelestus
06-20-2010, 05:54 PM
Quilter in VA, Stella 4- you are both right: It really helps sometimes to have others take a look at what you are doing. Although that day reflects me eating more carbs than I typically do, I am eating too many carbs, and I used to not do that. There was a time I was very mindful of eating only like 2 servings of carbs a day. I let some exercise people convince me that it was ok to eat more carbs if I was to be running 5+ miles a day and lifting some weights...but maybe that is for optimal performance and not weight loss (although I am sure that type of advice only applies to breakfast). As for the veggies I NEVER imagined that I was not eating enough veggies (because I love most veggies, and I eat several servings at once)...but it's true, I usually only eat veggies at dinner. I am at a loss as to how to include them easily into my other meals or snacks...I'll post about that in veggie challenged. Also, I am going to revamp my plan, work out the kinks, and at the end of the week I will make a new post saying how the transition was, and what the new plan looks like. Be on the look out for it!

Stella4
06-20-2010, 07:44 PM
Much better outlook!

Good luck at the doctors Tuesday and I WILL be looking for your next post to see how you revamp your plan!

JayLei
06-20-2010, 11:30 PM
Also.. ask your doctor if you can come in to weigh every week or two on their scales. My mother's scale goes off when the battery starts to die and they don't mind at all if she pops in to weigh when she's in the neighborhood.

bargoo
06-20-2010, 11:57 PM
If you have lost 63 pounds , you have still lost 63 pounds, no matter what the scale says, your starting weight may have been higher but the loss is the same.It is better to keep your records by using the same scale as scales will vary. I always weigh more at the doctor's office, too.BUT I have never weighed myself at his office , first thing out of bed, after potty, before breakfast and nude.