Weight Loss Support - I QUIT, how to transition to maintenance and still lose a little more?




ncuneo
06-17-2010, 01:40 PM
So I think I'm done. My loss has slowed way down and I'm just getting frustrated and I don't think I have what it takes to be so preoccupied with weight loss for 8 or more weeks. Part of me feels like my body is telling me it's at the weight it's happy at, but the other part of me knows that can't be true because there is still a good amount of pudge around my middle. However, with the strength training I've incorporated I'm still losing inches and things seem to be continuing to tighten up but I'm not really losing anymore weight. I'll probably give my plan a few more weeks in hopes that I'll get one more whoosh that might send me into the 140s, but I think come first week of July, I'm done. I feel a bit like a failure, not reaching my goal and not being completely satisfied with my body or weight, but I think I'm going to change my focus to strength training, toning and maintenance, but deep down I know I want to lose more lbs. So how can I pick a maintenance plan that will allow more weight loss if my body decides it wants that? I mean since I'm not losing now how do I add cals until I stop losing? I really don't want to add cals until I start gaining...I'm getting confused and I can't stay at my current cal level, but I don't think I'd need to add more than 200-300 cals/day to be happier (I'm zig zagging too and will continue to do that into maintenance). Any advice? Am I quitting? I know that 8 weeks doesn't sound like a long time to just stick it out, but I've been doing this for 4 years and the last 6 months it's just been completely consuming and I'm just tired and hungry :) A small part of me is wondering if the strength training is making things go wonky. I eat a very balance diet and my cals are on the high side and always have been and I've always lost so why am I so tired and hungry lately? I've been strength training for 8 weeks or so, and wasn't that tired or hungry when I started...ugh...I know that this will upset some people, but losing 10lbs is so much harder than losing 100lbs :) No, I'm kidding, but it really feels that way sometimes. Ok, thanks for listening.


nationalparker
06-17-2010, 01:55 PM
I can't speak to how to maintain/continue to lose a bit more, but I needed to write and say that to "feel a bit like a failure" needed to be addressed! ACK - you are ANYTHING but a failure - to set your mind and your actions to do what you've done is superb and admirable - to feel anything but pride and successful is to unintentionally, I'm sure, belittle yourself and your efforts. Don't be modest - my goodness - you've done GREAT. And, as you said, with the strength training, your body shape is still adjusting and as you continue to gain a bit more muscle, that will help offset a few calories as well. Strength training seems to increase hunger, too - at least I think so.

You're NOT quitting - you're sliding into the next phase! :) You are a role model to many! Congratulations!

ncuneo
06-17-2010, 02:22 PM
Thanks. Failure was completely the wrong term. I know what I've done has been a complete success...I think quitter is what I really feel like.


rockinrobin
06-17-2010, 02:27 PM
Well if you're current food plan has you NOT losing anything and you are looking to MAINTAIN, I would say keep on doing EXACTLY what you've been doing. Because in actuality, what you HAVE been doing IS maintaining, correct? So if you were to ADD in calories, chances are, you will gain weight. But only trial and error can tell you that.

The thing that bothers me a bit though, is that you mentioned you are hungry and you say that you're already at a high level. Perhaps you can shift around your calories, not necessarily the quality (but maybe), but the times and the sizes of your meals. Maybe stretch them out, eat smaller amounts more frequently. Of course keep in mind, I haven't a clue as to what your food plan looks like.

The strength training could possibly be a factor here, weight wise, time will tell.

And no, you're no failure here missy. Not by a long short. Look what you've accomplished. Just look!

The good thing about this is, is that you can change your mind further down the road. You can stay this way for a while and after a bit, if you want you can try your hand at weight loss again - or not - it's up to you. It's not written in stone and can be changed at any time.

In the meantime, revel in that new, wonderful you you've created. :)

JoJoJo2
06-17-2010, 02:34 PM
I really don't think that "quitter" is the right word either. You have done wonderfully, you have lost a lot of weight, your body may just be ready for a rest.

So now you will be maintaining, or maybe losing a few more lbs. And that is difficult, it really is. That's where I am, so I am speaking from experience.

OK, I recommend that you weigh yourself every day. This will help keep you from slipping back into old habits. Those lost lbs. can rejoin you mighty quickly.

By all means, continue with the strength training, it will help tone your body.

Continue to watch the calorie intake. As you add a few more calories, you do need to be careful that you are not adding too many.

IMHO the maintenance stage is more difficult than the losing weight ever was. You will need to be careful for the rest of your life. I'm sorry, but it is true for most of us who have lost weight. It is a 'balancing act' for sure. Just think of all the people who have successfully lost weight, and then were totally unsuccessful at maintaining that weight loss.

Again, you have done a wonderful job losing that weight. You should be very proud of yourself. Smile when you look in that mirror at the totally new you.

And now it is on to another chapter of your life. Best of luck to you.

thesame7lbs
06-17-2010, 02:52 PM
I have no advice re: maintaining, because I'm just getting there myself... but something in your post made me think... overtraining?

I found this website (http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/overtraining/a/aa062499a.htm) that discusses some of the symptoms of overtraining -- some of which I'm feeling myself unfortunately...

It might be worth researching a bit to see if that could be part of it. It could be that after weight training for 8 weeks it is time to take a "deload" week (there was a post on 3FC SOMEWHERE about a deload week but search as I might I just can't find it!). I think it has been shown that the exhaustion of overtraining can make your bod go into lockdown -- that may be why the scale refuses to budge downward, only upward.

It just seems that if you are feeling as you are, it might be best to ease off for a bit, take a break, maintain for a while, and then see how you feel.

Congratulations on your incredible success. You have done something incredible, something people dream about doing every day, but rarely do...

jenlag
06-17-2010, 02:56 PM
Increase your caloric intake. That's what Jillian Michael's says! I can't give you the scientific reasoning, but I can only assume your body is hanging on to those pounds and the remaining pudge because it doesn't feel properly and abundantly (not OVER abundantly) nourished. I read one of Jillian's articles on this recently. Good luck!

ncuneo
06-17-2010, 03:34 PM
You know, increasing my cals has always worked, but it just seems too good to be true at this point and the only calculator I can find to justify it requires I claim 5xs/week of intense exercise. I generally do some form of exercise everyday, but I highly doubt any of the days are intense.

PeanutsMom704
06-17-2010, 03:53 PM
If you are losing inches, then I would try to not get too caught up in what the scale says at this point. Give your body a chance to adjust to it all - the 115 lbs gone and the strength training.

For calories, I think you will have to bite the bullet and experiment to see. I don't think you should be going hungry, but I would also do what Robin suggested and play around with what and when you eat, and not just how much.

And a final word, please don't EVER consider yourself a failure or a quitter. You have accomplished so much and been a huge inspiration for both the journey you've taken, and your honesty about all the thoughts and feelings you are dealing with.

Lori Bell
06-17-2010, 06:19 PM
I really, REALLy agree with Robin. Sounds like you might be already eating at your maintaince calories. If you raise them you will probably gain weight. Since you are already "zig-zagging" (or whatever you guys call it), I don't think more calories is the ticket. Less yes, more...I really seriously doubt it.

I see it recommended on 3FC all the time, and I can't quite wrap my head around the idea, though I'm sure there is a great concept attached. I hear, "Eat more, eat more, you're not eating enough for a person your size...eat more, (and my personal favorite...lol) you'll go into starvation mode", so a person raises their calories to the maximum amount they can eat so that they lose VERY, very slowly...Which is fine and dandy, but then about every weight decade the weight stalls and the person has to take away calories, the patterns repeats itself for months and then walla they get close (or to) goal and they want to add more calories. It just doesn't work that way with the "highest calorie possible plan". You basically end up eating your maintaince calories by the time you reach goal. That's the end...the max you can have.

I've been lectured and made fun of and told I was doing this all wrong, but when I reached goal, because I was eating basically the Doctor recommended minimum amount, I did get to add calories back once I hit goal. (And it was GREAT :D)

The thing is this. I didn't want to keep reducing calories. I didn't want to get used to a high calorie amount only to have to keep taking more away the smaller I got. I guess I was looking for a reward at the end...to actually get to eat more. I guess it all depends on the person and how they want to reach their goal.

Karen925
06-17-2010, 06:28 PM
I've been lectured and made fun of and told I was doing this all wrong, but when I reached goal, because I was eating basically the the Doctor recommended minimum amount, I did get to add calories back once I hit goal.

The thing is this. I didn't want to keep reducing calories. I didn't want to get used to a high calorie amount only to have to keep taking more away the smaller I got. I guess I was looking for a reward at the end...to actually get to eat more. I guess it all depends on the person and how they want to reach their goal.

This is my take as well. Once I got past the fear of my hair falling out, my nails going brittle, not maintaining long term, etc, I set it to lose 1.5#/wk which is about what I do. Sometimes a bit more, a couple of times less.

Now I don't know about adding calories in straight up or if it matters the type of calories they are. I suspect I will be able to add in more unprocessed carbs and less sugar type foods. I also don't know if I want the sugar demon stirred up again. I really like not having that pull to eat it. I had yellow & red bell pepper strips with my salad and they were so sweet. I saved them for the end because they were so delicious. I like that my sweet tooth appreciates sweetness from a veggie!

ncuneo
06-17-2010, 06:41 PM
Sounds like you might be already eating at your maintaince calories. If you raise them you will probably gain weight. Since you are already "zig-zagging" (or whatever you guys call it), I don't think more calories is the ticket. Less yes, more...I really seriously doubt it.

Dear lord, please don't let this be the case, I don't think I could sustain this being my maintenance cals...This stuff is tricky business, we're all so different...I guess all I can do is experiment...I tried going a little lower but I was so ravenous it just wasn't worth it and I didn't lose anything. I'm going to try increasing my intensity and duration on my strength training days in hopes that shaking that up will get the weight loss going again...as far as what to do with my cals...I just don't know...

PeanutsMom704
06-17-2010, 06:47 PM
I am hoping that it works out that I'm eating my maintenance calories now, which is a range of 1200-1500 a day. I will go up to 1600 and still consider myself on plan if those extras are because I'm truly hungry and it's coming from fruit or veggies. I am very happy with what and how much I eat, and can see myself eating this amount for the rest of my life. If by chance I should get to my goal and find that I'm still losing on that amount of calories, I would add in extra calorie via not being quite so careful as I am now if I go out to eat, etc, and figure that since it's still are occurrence, one high cal meal each month or so would make up any difference.

I could stick closer to the 1200 number, but for me, this whole journey is about making changes and creating habits that I can sustain for the rest of my life. So rather than being really strict and rewarding myself in the end, I'm taking a middle road and being strict enough to lose weight but not so strict that I can't comfortably and happily stay on plan for the long term. My 1200 days don't feel like a hardship right now, but I would miss the added variety I can have when I play around with those additional 300 calories. Depending on the month, I average about 1350-1400 a day, so I know I'm having a good mix of high and low days within my range.

rockinrobin
06-17-2010, 09:59 PM
ncuneo, you mentioned that you're eating at a fairly high calorie level now, you of course don't have to answer this question, I understand perfectly if you'd rather not, but here goes - just how many calories are you consuming? I think I may also be hearing that you're not so satisfied with the amount, so another question (again feel free to not answer), just what does a typical food day look like for you? Maybe that can be adjusted (or not, I'd have no way of knowing this), maybe we can make some suggestions.

stella1609
06-17-2010, 11:25 PM
Hon, are you REALLY stalling, or are you just so anxious to be done that 1 lb. every week or so seems like stalling? I think you've been moving your ticker down pretty regularly . . . Believe me, I've gone through times where I had myself convinced I was completely stalled, but checking my weigh-ins quickly proved me wrong.

That being said, I work out pretty intensely 5 days a week (some days harder than others--just depends), and I actually lose about the same on 1500 calories as I do on 1700. I fully expect to be able to maintain at 2100-2200 with my current activity level (6-10 miles of jogging weekly plus 60 min of strength training, 50 min spin class, and 50 min yoga/pilates).

ncuneo
06-17-2010, 11:43 PM
Ok, here it goes, but before I do I've been thinking about something. When I started actually calorie counting I was losing famously at about 100-150 more per day and just started slightly decreasing my cals just to prevent a plateau and because it just seemed logical as I lost weight. So maybe if it wasn't broke...maybe I should have never fixed it.

My cals look like this

M 1650
T 1350
W 1800
Th 1650
F 1500
S 2000
Su 1650

Breakfast 400-500
Coffee w/ creamer (sorry it's a vice can't help it)
Sometimes Fruit, oatmeal or high fiber/high protein cereal and a dairy protein (milk or greek yogurt)
But usually my "super breads" These are something that I make that are high protien, low GI, no sugar w/ fruit.

I could probably improve on breakfast, but these work for me and I know they'll keep me satisfied until lunch

Lunch 300-450
Lean meat, raw veggies, legumes or whole grains
Today I had turkey keilbasa w/ stewed tomatoes, black beans, spices and chilis and carrots with humus

Snack 100-200
Usually fruit with dairy protien, although today I had dark chocolate almonds and was much more satisfied.

Dinner 300-400
Same as lunch
Today I had a homemade turkey burger (no bun) with avocado and a side of veggies

Snack 100-200
Skinny Cow Ice Cream (Another vice, but I have a ridiculous sweet tooth)

Now of course, I could go with some more whole foods, but with my lifestyle I'm not sure that is completely realistic, but something I may work on. As for exercise I run 4xs a week, walk 1x a week and strength train 2xs a week. If I were to go back to the cals I was losing at before (like 3 months ago) they'd look like this.

M 1750
T 1450
W 1900
Th 1750
F 1600
S 2100
Su 1750

But I would practice eating when I'm hungry and what I'm craving (to avoid binging) and if that means I go under my allotment then ok and if I'm slightly over then I'll balance later in the week.

My dream maintenance plan would look like this

M 1800-1900
T 1500-1600
W 1800-1900
Th 1800-1900
F 1600-1700
S 2200-2500
Su 1800-1900

I would obviously continue my exercise exactly how it is but started really focusing on what I'm doing when I strength train (look up some new exercises, routines, etc.) And I would probably start training for some races. And again I'd eat when I'm hungry, not just because it's time to eat and eat what I'm craving. So this is just what's in my head right now. I'm thinking I would do the 1750 cal level for about 4 weeks, see how I feel, if it's not working go back to 1650 or go to dream maintenance. Although the 1750 might be a comfortable maintenance level for me, especially with the occassional dinner out my family partakes in. Ok. thanks for letting me ramble.

ncuneo
06-17-2010, 11:45 PM
I think you've been moving your ticker down pretty regularly . . . Believe me, I've gone through times where I had myself convinced I was completely stalled, but checking my weigh-ins quickly proved me wrong.

Maybe, but I actually weigh 155 right now and have been bouncing around from 156 to 154 for awhile and 153 was my last lowest weight and I just refuse to admit it didn't stick :)

rockinrobin
06-18-2010, 12:33 AM
First of all, you don't have to apologize for anything.

Secondly, well, you've said it yourself. You DO have some room for *improvement*. Seems to me like you can really shave down those calories IF you more weight loss is what you're after.

If you're not satiated, you can switch out some of those empty calorie foods and add in waaaay more filling ones and ones that will work for you and possibly aid you in your quest for further weight loss.

I hope this doesn't come out wrong, but I think I may be hearing an attitude of something like, "why me?, it's not fair and I want my cake and to eat it too!". Your dream maintenance? Those are some hefty numbers! Dream maintenance? ummm, well if I had it my way, yada, yada, yada.

I think you HAVE had it both ways and you've gotten spoiled. You are one of the lucky ones, in fact. That you were able to lose on those calories - yes, you ARE one of the lucky ones.

You really CAN'T have it both ways. You speak of slow weight loss and of no longer losing - well, you DO have room to change both of those things - if you choose to. Adhering to a healthy lifestyle, being a slim, trim, healthy weight takes discipline, effort and sometimes having to tell yourself no! We're adults and we have to make adult, mature, responsible decisions.

You and only you can decide what matters the MOST to you. Luckily, anything you decide to do now, doesn't mean you ALWAYS have to do it. You're allowed to change your mind.

Here's hoping you find the right mix for yourself :hug:.

ncuneo
06-18-2010, 02:03 AM
Thanks rockinrobin, you thoughts are always appreciated. I do realize how lucky I am to lose at the levels I do...and I probably just need to focus a little less on the scale and just be happy with what I've acomplished and maybe look at some of the emotional pieces of this puzzle...I completely consumed by this stuff and I think it might be time to just live (stay on plan of course) but live my life...it just hard because like I said weight loss has been apart of my life for the last 4 1/2 yrs and sometimes I wonder if I know how to do anything else. While I keep tellng myself this is my new life I think I still think I think I'm on a diet...so if that means practicing maintenance for a little while to really accept this new lifestyle, then so be it. I'm expecting some cookbooks that I ordered soon that I'm hoping will clean up my foods a little so I give that a shot too. Thanks again everyone!

stella1609
06-18-2010, 09:23 AM
Maybe, but I actually weigh 155 right now and have been bouncing around from 156 to 154 for awhile and 153 was my last lowest weight and I just refuse to admit it didn't stick :)

Ahhh, I gotcha--sorry chickie :hug:. I sort of do the same thing--yesterday after breakfast and a (very hot) run, I was 151.6 so I'm leaving my ticker at 151 even though I was 152.8 this AM!

I think there is a little room for you to up your exercise--maybe add a different sort of cardio? I eat A LOT, and I don't only eat good foods (although I probably eat 75% good foods). I have cake, wine, potato chips, ice cream--and I still lose because I get up and work out, and then go bust my butt all day at work.

mkendrick
06-18-2010, 09:32 AM
I gave the losing thing a rest for a few weeks. Not that I was frustrated with staying on plan or anything, I was just exhausted by the lose-lose-lose! mentality. I did get a little bit easier on my calories and stayed towards the high end of my deficit most days (around 1500-1600) and cut back on exercise some. Instead of running and doing the elliptical everyday, I just walked and stuck with strength. I didn't lose, but I didn't gain either. I was just content with it.

Will last week, I shifted my calories around with a new schedule and have found that I do glooorious on no breakfast, a big lunch, a big dinner, and a big evening snack (I know, not the usual advised plan, but it works for me beautifully). Suddenly I was satisfied on 1250-1350cal/day just because the times and foods I was eating were so much more satisfying to me. I've had a big whoosh the last few weeks and went from hovering around 136-137 to hovering around 132-133.

rockinrobin
06-18-2010, 09:57 AM
mkendrick just mentioned breakfast, and ncuneo, I do see where that is one area where you can shave some calories. Like I said earlier, you've definitely got some room to play with here. If you interested in losing more weight (as you've mentioned in several posts that you are not fully pleased) - I don't think you'll have any problems at all doing so. Calorie cutting wise that is, getting over the why can't I have it all part of the equation - that's another story. But I do think the anticipation part of it will be the actual worst part of it for you - I think that you would find once you do it - it ain't all that bad - like at all - and you may even enjoy it - and LOVE the results.

I just gotta say, I can't imagine focusing on the losing portion of a journey for 4+ years. Wow. Just wow. Kudos and hats off to you!!!

srmb60
06-18-2010, 10:19 AM
I didn't actually think your diet was too bad as far as whole foods goes. Experimenting with what you eat rather than focussing on how much might be a refreshing change.

Shannon in ATL
06-18-2010, 10:20 AM
For what its worth, here is my take on it. :)

You were losing comfortably at 1775 cals, which is a maintenane level for some people, absolutely. You preemptively lowered your calorie level to 1675 per day while adding in more exercise, at which point your weight loss slowed. That is interesting to me - I wonder if you went back up to the 1775 at your current exercise level if you would begin to lose again. Always a possibility - I hit goal at 1650 cals average and then continued to lose until I came to a 1950 calorie average. Now that I've been maintaining a while I vary from 1700-2200 (sometimes more on crazy days) and I tend to go up and down 3-4 pounds plus or minus, but no real loss even when I am at the lowest point for a while.

I figured your average numbers for your dream maintenance, comes to 1785 at your lowest numbers -1914 cals per day at the top end every day. I don't see that as an unrealistic number for maintenance for your height and weight at all, but as has been pointed out everyone is different. It is around where I target for maintenance and I'm about your height and 38 years old.Interestingly, the 1785 is only a smidgen higher than what you were losing at originally, so you are definitely lucky there. :)

I hear you saying that you are hungry -after 4.5 I wonder if that is an emotional reaction more than a physical one? An 'I'm done with my diet, now I want a darn cheeseburger' kind of thing? You will have to resolve that question so it won't control you. As to your sweet tooth, I have one too. I see nothing wrong with the occasional Skinny Cow, or in my case pint of Ben & Jerry's. (Weirdly, I couldn't eat a whole one before, now I can. Would be better if I couldn't :) ) I choose to realize that I am sometimes going to eat that B&J and not beat myself up over it. It means I have a lower cal day on some other days, or some weeks I'm at the higher end of my maintenance range, but I'm not going to give up the ice cream.

So, after all that rambling up there I want to say that you aren't a failure, you are just at a decision point. :) You can lower your cals and see if you begin to lose again. You can raise your cals a little and try to settle into maintenance, though you will likely gain at first but could settle into losing again. You can stay where you are and maintain. Up to you what you want to try - if it were me I would go back up a little to the 1775 average where you were losing before and see what happens. Learn how to live your new lifestyle for a little while. It won't be much different from your dieting lifestyle, if at all, but this will give you some time to settle in and start looking at it as living rather than dieting. That was the tough part for me - how to reconcile continuing to weigh and measure and calorie count after the 'diet' was over.

You will figure out what works for you. Absolutely. :)

:hug:

motivated chickie
06-18-2010, 10:25 AM
I took a year off from actively dieting when I hit 148 pounds. I remember thinking that maybe I am supposed to be at 150 pounds because that's what I weighed in my 20s.

After about a year, my weight crept up to 155, which wasn't terrible, but I decided to give weight loss another go this past February. I don't count calories (too triggering), but I try to avoid foods that don't satisfy me. I think my diet is similar to the primal blueprint or phase I of South Beach. And I couldn't believe that I lost these 25 pounds much more easily than the first 25.

Now that I am close to goal, I have started to feel afraid. I feel like I am climbing a tall ladder and I decided to look down. I try to remind myself that this is a one day at a time thing. Even when I binge, as long as I get back on plan, I will maintain my weight loss.

I think it's ok to take a break and practice maintenance. I did that, but I admit my food choices got sloppier and sloppier. I realize now that maintenance still means daily vigilance and effort. There are no rest days in healthy living.

chnkymonkey
06-18-2010, 10:26 AM
You said you recently started weight training. I don't know what your diet is like - other than zig zag. But with the increase in weight training, did you increase your protein and fat intake too? You may need to change up your nutrient content to work better for you.

Also - with the increase in weight training - you might not be losing - but are you seeing changes in your body? You are going to build muscle, and this could look like a stall on the scale while your body continues to change and reshape itself. Its almost like an exchange, where as you may still be losing fat from one area, your are building muscle in another area.

Don't be discouraged - keep it up!

As for transitioning into maintenance - you are right - an extra 200 - 300 cals could be all you need. Maybe a recovery protein shake after a workout will help. It can help with the tiredness too.

For me - I find for weight training, I need more protein and good fats and less carbs to keep my energy levels up. Where as with cardio and trying to lose weight, I do better with low fat. But really the difference for me is a simple as a 1/4 cup of nuts as a snack during the day to get the boost I need. Its not a big change

ncuneo
06-18-2010, 12:17 PM
Oh you guys are so amazing and given me so much to think about!

So here is what I'm thinking - FOODS! New foods, I think part of my issue is that I'm getting bored with what I've been eating and it's time to try new foods, maybe more whole foods and just play around with it. I think I'll give myself a window of cals to play with and if I need higher cals then there and if I don't I don't, but I'm going to stop focusing so much on the calorie level that I'm trying to eat and instead just living a healthy lifestyle. I'm going to really focus hard on my exercise and try to really nurious (spelling?) my body. While I love my skinny cows, I think there are some other things I can eat that are better fuel my body (those dark chocolate almonds were pretty darn good).

I really want to work on breakfast. I worry about this one though because breakfast is a really important meal for me (I think...I wonder what would happen if I went lower cal on it, can't find out til I try) but usually if I don't get a good breakfast I'm starving for the rest of the day. Lunch is really important too, dinner not as much. So like I said, lots to think about. I'm really not satisfied with my body yet, so the journey is not over we're just moving into another phase I think. Thanks again everyone! Off to the internet to find some new recipies!!!!

motivated chickie
06-18-2010, 12:29 PM
I was looking at your sample menu again & I think there's room for more veggies.

Fruit is healthy, but I find vegetables much more satisfying. For example... When I make an egg white omelet, I stir fry broccoli, tomatoes, jalapenos, red peppers, and onions. Then I pour the egg beaters around the pan full of veggies.

The omelet is HUGE, but it's about 200 calories. And it has so much more volume and is more satisfying than eating 2 slices of wheat bread.

Have fun in your next phase of your healthy eating adventure.

ncuneo
06-18-2010, 12:54 PM
The omelet is HUGE, but it's about 200 calories. And it has so much more volume and is more satisfying than eating 2 slices of wheat bread.

I'll give it a shot, but 1) I have to make my breakfast the night before and eat it at work (although beaters are microwavable, I could just do it scrambled) and 2) eggs don't seem to fill me up too well, I'm usually ravenous by lunch. But I've always had my eggs with lean meat so maybe doing it with veggies would make a difference.

More suggestions on breakfast please!

srmb60
06-18-2010, 12:57 PM
I had leftover cold roast beef for breakfast yesterday ;) It has to be easy to get at or I won't bother. What's easier than leftovers?

Shannon in ATL
06-18-2010, 01:07 PM
I make smoothies for breakfast pretty much every work day, with protein powder, greek yogurt, milk, a splash of OJ, banana and frozen fruit. Love it. I bumped my breakfast cals up at one time, but have brought them back down to around 300 again. I have to have the protein in the AM or I'm dying by lunch, too.

chnkymonkey
06-18-2010, 02:24 PM
I have a great cookbook called the 1500 caloried diet cook book and breaks down by meals (breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner, dessert). Where the meals are about 300 cals and the snacks 150 (average).

My days are similar to yours, I get the bulk of my calories in the morning/lunch and could all out skip dinner if it weren't for the family.

Typical breakfast for me would be.

Option 1.
1/4 cup egg white, scrambled, 1oz cheese, bagel thin or english muffin and a banana

Option 2.
Quick Oats oatmeal (plain, no sugar). 2 packets of splenda, and a french vanilla creamer. 1tb peanut butter or some protein powder. 1 banana

Option 3.
Protein shake: 1 scoop protein powder, 1 banana, 1/2 cup frozen fruit and 1/2 cup low sugar juice. I'll also add in ground flax seeds, and fiber powder.

Those are all about 300 calories. I try to get some good fats, and protein and go lighter on the carbs and avoid sugars. That way it keeps me going well into lunch.

When I do Option 1 - I can have that at 8 or 9 am and not be hungry for lunch until 2pm.

And, unless I'm out of bananas - I almost always have my banana first - on my drive into work. (I don't eat breakfast until after I get to the office, around 8 - 9am)

mkendrick
06-18-2010, 02:25 PM
6oz chilled coffee
6oz dannon light n' fit yogurt
1 medium banana
1 tbsp torani sugarfree syrup (I use hazelnut, but there are a zillion flavors)
1 squirt, about a tbsp, of hershey's sugarfree chocolate syrup
ice

And blend...makes a glorious mocha banana smoothie that fills me up big time. And a caffeine boost! For around 200 cal.

rockinrobin
06-18-2010, 04:46 PM
I think I'll give myself a window of cals to play with and if I need higher cals then there and if I don't I don't, but I'm going to stop focusing so much on the calorie level that I'm trying to eat and instead just living a healthy lifestyle. I'm going to really focus hard on my exercise and try to really nurious (spelling?) my body. While I love my skinny cows, I think there are some other things I can eat that are better fuel my body (those dark chocolate almonds were pretty darn good).



Don't kid yourself. Calorie levels are critical to that healthy lifestyle that you want to live and I urge you to not give up on tracking those calories. Even if you were to eat strictly healthy foods, if you're not mindful of your calories you then wind up OVERfeeding yourself - well then - that's not so healthy in the end. Because the single most healthy thing we can do for ourselves is keep to a healthy weight. And without a doubt you can pack on the pounds eating exclusively healthy foods. Anyway you look at it, if you want to remain trim and slender you will have to always be careful of the calories you consume.

But I actually think you've made this harder for yourself then need be. Me and yes we're all different - I could never handle that zig zagging thing, certainly not to the extent that you've got it going on. I would go nuts remembering which day to do this and which day to do that.

Me? I have a couple of breakfasts that add up to a certain calorie allotment, a few different lunches all within the same calorie range, a bunch of dinners with similar counts and snacks equaling more or less the same calories. And they are interchangeable. Easy shmeazy. I don't even have to think about my calories anymore. All the *work* has been done for me previously.

I understand your hesitancy to change things up, I go through that sometimes - I've been wanting to try a bigger lunch and forgoing some of my snacks - but I'm afraid I'll have nothing to eat and be hungry. But so what, if it doesn't work out I don't have to do it anymore.

But in your case, I really think you should do some calorie shifting/food swapping. I really do think you will be pleasantly surprised at what you're capable of. Look what you've already accomplished. Did you ever think you could do what you've done? Yet you have. I think there's more good stuff headed your way.

We are all works in progress, always striving for improvement. Who needs to remain stagnant anyway?

I'm actually excited for you as you venture into some new arenas. Keep us posted. :)

ncuneo
06-18-2010, 07:38 PM
I urge you to not give up on tracking those calories.

Oh no no, I fully intend to continue to track every morsle and continue to practice level of cals that I should be either losing or maintaining at. I will weigh every day and adjust my cals as necessary as I get more comfortable with my new foods and meals. It's a work in progress I have a big shopping list ready to go and I'm excited. First breakfast I want to try is steel cut oats or Quinoa w/ sweet potatos, walnuts, cinamon and a little milk (a >300 cal serving). I stole this idea from the whole foods forum which I need to spend more time in. I think now that my pallette has change there is a whole new world of foods to explore. But I will absolutly continue to monitor my calories very closely.